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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said be
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The Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay there and welcome to the Rewrap for Friday, All
the best fits for the last time. Well for the
year of the Mic Hosking Breakfast guest starring Heather Dupless
Allen on News Talks he'd be in a sillier package.
I am a gleam Hart And today it's the moment
(00:46):
you've been waiting for. Yes, Politician of the Year. We're
Heather's going to dredge out the cole play kisscam again
for some reason. And also she'll have trouble lighting per stove.
But before any of that, ah a recovery. Oh you
shouldn't have. It's just what I wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, how good is it to end the year the
Mic Hosking Breakfast Show for the year with the good
news that next year isn't looking like the year that
we will finally be out of recession and into the growth.
The GDP number out, yes that I confirmed it. It was
better than expected. Came in at one point one percent.
That was better than any economist was picking. It was
almost three times better than the Reserve Bank had predicted.
(01:23):
The quarter that we're in at the moment is looking good.
Much of the recent economic data is looking good. Consumer
confidence is up, business confidence is up, building consents are up,
job listings are up, manufacturing orders are up, Retail spending
is up. Yes, there is some data out there that
shows it's going to be a bit bumpy next year.
The services sector is still contracting. That should be a worry. Yes,
the election will slow spending like it does every three years,
(01:45):
and yes house price growth is basically not even worth mentioning.
But enough is lining up for us to feel like
twenty twenty six might actually finally usher in the start
of something good, good enough for HSBC to predict that
our growth will outstrip Australia's and then do we deserve this?
It has been tough pat yourself on the back for
stumbling to the point that we're at, because this has
been the toughest recession in decades, harder than the GFC
(02:08):
buy a lot. We've lost businesses, we've lost family and
friends to Australia. We've lost a lot of money. And
without being glib, what doesn't break you makes you stronger.
So my hope for twenty twenty six is that this
country is now recession hardened, is more efficient, and is
more nimble and basically is ready to take better times
and make the most of them.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yes, that classic classic Christmas wish, you know, Mary recovery
and are more efficient twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So we wrap.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Now it's the moment all the politicians have been waiting
for to find out who has crowned Politician of the Year.
Really there was only one option.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Now it's that time of the year, isn't it where
we pick our politician of the year. And for me,
it's the same person that I picked last year. Now,
what I want to say is political commentators, myself included,
at times, have an unfortunate tendency to sometimes choose politicians
because the politicians are good at playing the political game.
And if you're into that kind of thing, you might
have picked this year Hanad Arfady. Might be Clark because
(03:05):
she collected her Time Magazine Time Mags Award. This year.
You might pack Chris Hopkins because he's resurrected his party's
fortunes from a horror twenty twenty three election result. Maybe
Ardena Williams from Labor for giving good speeches or Shane
Jones for getting attention. But at a time when we
all acknowledge that our country is in a little bit
of a poly crisis, slipping further behind the pack, I
think the most important measure is not actually whether a
(03:27):
politician is good at politics. It's whether a politician is
making an actual difference, and no other politician is making
as big a difference or as quickly in an area
as important as Erica Stanford is. Already, kids are learning
more than they have for years now. The results from
her phone exchanges just a couple of months ago was
so dramatic that a staff member in her office burst
(03:48):
into tears. She is doing this despite increasing resistance from teachers' unions.
Parents are raving about the changes that they're seeing. Teachers
themselves are noticing the difference. Nothing is more important than
our kids and educating our kids properly and on the politics.
If that is your measure, she can actually play politics
as well as anyone. I mean, you watch her closely,
and you watch her opponent's lo earn the lesson of
(04:10):
getting tangled up with Erica Stanford. Just ask willo jin
Prime how that went. So, Erica Stanford it is, and again,
because nothing beats having a good idea and being brave
enough to execute it and then helping to turn this
country around.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
No mention of the bassoon. I mean, I don't think
there's anybody else who plays the pursuon, certainly not as
well as Erica Stanford does. That's why I'd give her
most prizes just because of that. Everybody forgets about that.
I don't know how you can forget about that. It's
the only thing I think of, and I think of it.
I can't even remember what she's the minister of. I
just think of Vera's being the minister of Bison. Right.
(04:44):
Remember the Kisscam? Yes, you do? It was the massive
the cold Play kiscams. Come on, you do? It wasn't
there long ago?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I ask you this question, like, do you remember the
cold playcis Caam? Of course you remember the cold playkiscam.
Absolutely everybody does. The woman at the center of the
cold Play Kistcam, has now spoken out for the first
time to The New York Times, about four or five
months after the thing has happened. She's she reckons that
she had never been in a sexual relationship with her
boss until that night. She says, before that night they'd
(05:16):
never even kissed. She decided she was breaking up from
her husband, she says, was very new breaking up from
the husband. Was going to go and see Cold Play
with some friends. Hadn't been out for a very long time.
She and the boss had had started connecting with each other,
and you know, it as always happens, she said, oh,
my marriage is breaking up, and he said, oh, my
marriage is breaking up too. You know how that thing happens.
(05:37):
So then of course, all of a sudden, you know,
she invited him out and they went. They went into
this like vip loungey bit that they were in and
had a couple of tequilas, and before you know it,
they're having a smooch and then he was dancing and
she put her arms around him, and anyway, the rest
is history.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
The thing when people feel unexpected feelings when they go
to cold Play, don't they?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, And when they have tequila's, a couple of tequilas
will help you along that journey quite well as well. Anyway,
she is trying to clear her name in this whole thing,
and you know, she doesn't want to accept that this
is what her life isn't fair enough to her because
the whole thing went completely mental. She had about five
your sixty death threats and people were being horrible to
her at the gas station, and her children are mortified,
And there is a degree of self reflection that we
(06:16):
have to do as a society that every part of
the world that consumed that and formed opinions on it.
But I'm not really sure. Well, I mean, you're entitled
to an opinion, it's whether you then took it to her.
But I'm not really sure that speaking out about it
publicly has necessarily helped her case. So I don't know
how many people are going to believe that was the
first time they had a bit of a snog anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Spira thought for the people who make kiss cams, I mean,
they've really gone out of vogue new.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's been a tough end to that business for them.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, that's weird, isn't it that anybody would think that
this is still interesting and that anybody cares about this? Now?
Why would you judg it all up again? So weird?
It's the rewrap, right, It's that time of the year
where things go wrong that you're not going to be
able to do anything about because it's that time of
the year.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
We've got it. We've still got the old gas stove,
so still, you know, because fossil feels we've got the gas.
We have the gas cook top, right and it's a
stat anyway, whatever the oven works. But yesterday I went
to do it, turn the gas on. Gas is coming out,
but the click click click thing that ignites it, the
ignition not working. And I thought, I saw I fiddled
a re turned the switch on and off at the wall.
(07:19):
You know, the it guys say, do that. I did that.
I lit it with a lighter. It tried everything called
the sparky Jake called me back at eight o'clock last
night to talk. Can't figure it out, and I thought, jeez,
that's just the day that you need that you need
the gas guy to come around on the very last
Friday before Christmas. This is just I feel like this
is going to go well for me. What do you think?
(07:39):
I feel like I'm going to spend January lighting the
stovetop with a lighter, which looked to be honest, let's
be fair, first world problems, but unfortunate timing, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeh? See this lines up with my conspiracy, my gas
conspiracy theory. I went through a period where when I
tried to put my burners on low, they just turn off,
and I began to suspect that they doled down the
gas pressure. Is that something that they can do? Or
am I just getting paradoid for re wrap anyway, of course,
this then became the old thing that anybody could think
(08:09):
about or talk about Morning Heather.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Should we all be replacing our gas hobs and water
for electricity? Actually, very good question and serendipitous question from you, Monica.
So I was had a thing the other night and
I was talking to a I won't say who, but
it was the CEO of one of the big, big
electricity businesses here in New Zealand. And I asked exactly
this question as somebody who does have the gas coming
(08:32):
out of the stove at the moment, As I said
to this person, do we all need to do the switch?
And he said no, because because it's really the big
users who are the ones who's stuffed by the lack
of gas. Right, So you're thinking about the likes of
meth and X. And then Spira thought, for all the
guys who are trying to like warm hothouses and stuff
like that using gas. If you're just using gas domestically,
(08:52):
you're probably okay for a wee bit. It's gonna get pricey, yer,
but it's not that pricing. Converting from gas to electricity
is mind blowingly expensive. You do not want to do that.
And I guarantee you at some stage that, given that
it's New Zealand, whatever government's in there is going to
come out with a grant like we did for oh,
do you need to insulate your house, here's some thousands
of dollars for you. They'll do that. They'll go here's
(09:13):
some thousands of dollars for you to convert away from gas.
So I would say just wait for that, because that's inevitable.
But what he said you can do is for a
much smaller price, you can convert from mains gas into
bottle gas, so you could get ye LPG bottle instead.
And that is a bit of a fath The German
who works with me on drive has that. My mum
has that at her house and running out of gas
(09:33):
every now and because you know there'll be a husband
who forgets to order the gas and or some boring
thing like that. That's an issue, but it's cheaper and
it's probably the way to go here that you need
to get with the times and get an air fryer.
And look, I know everybody raves about an air fry
but an air fryer is a It's a concession, isn't it.
I mean, it's probably smart, but it's the kind of
thing that you do when you have children. It's unique
(09:53):
to families with children. It's like all of a sudden,
you start eating thousands of sausages and you get an
air fryer. And I don't know that I'm quite there
yet in time.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, why why do you think she was talking about
to electricians about gas? Isn't that eight it's the plumbers
that do the gas, isn't it. I feel like she's
going to get, you know, not very objective advice about
converting to electricity. Mind you, I suppose she talks to
a plumber. She's not going to get very unbiased advice either.
(10:24):
We just talk to the guy who does the windows
or hangs up the pictures. What do you mean you
don't have a guy who hangs up the pictures. Oh,
that's right, that's actually only my gosting you guest, I
am glear hat. That was the final rewrap for the year.
We'll see you back here again in a few weeks time,
and you know what, I might even have a Mike
(10:44):
costing for you. Believe it or not, see.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It then for more from News Talk st B, listen
live on air or online, and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk said be
follow this and our Wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio
The Rewrap.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay there and welcome to the Rewrap for Friday, All
the best fits for the last time. Well for the
year of the Mic Hosking Breakfast guest starring Heather Dupless
Allen on News Talks he'd be in a sillier package.
I am a gleam Hart And today it's the moment
(00:46):
you've been waiting for. Yes, Politician of the Year. We're
Heather's going to dredge out the cole play kisscam again
for some reason. And also she'll have trouble lighting per stove.
But before any of that, ah a recovery. Oh you
shouldn't have. It's just what I wanted.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, how good is it to end the year the
Mic Hosking Breakfast Show for the year with the good
news that next year isn't looking like the year that
we will finally be out of recession and into the growth.
The GDP number out, yes that I confirmed it. It was
better than expected. Came in at one point one percent.
That was better than any economist was picking. It was
almost three times better than the Reserve Bank had predicted.
(01:23):
The quarter that we're in at the moment is looking good.
Much of the recent economic data is looking good. Consumer
confidence is up, business confidence is up, building consents are up,
job listings are up, manufacturing orders are up, Retail spending
is up. Yes, there is some data out there that
shows it's going to be a bit bumpy next year.
The services sector is still contracting. That should be a worry. Yes,
the election will slow spending like it does every three years,
(01:45):
and yes house price growth is basically not even worth mentioning.
But enough is lining up for us to feel like
twenty twenty six might actually finally usher in the start
of something good, good enough for HSBC to predict that
our growth will outstrip Australia's and then do we deserve this?
It has been tough pat yourself on the back for
stumbling to the point that we're at, because this has
been the toughest recession in decades, harder than the GFC
(02:08):
buy a lot. We've lost businesses, we've lost family and
friends to Australia. We've lost a lot of money. And
without being glib, what doesn't break you makes you stronger.
So my hope for twenty twenty six is that this
country is now recession hardened, is more efficient, and is
more nimble and basically is ready to take better times
and make the most of them.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Yes, that classic classic Christmas wish, you know, Mary recovery
and are more efficient twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
So we wrap.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Now it's the moment all the politicians have been waiting
for to find out who has crowned Politician of the Year.
Really there was only one option.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Now it's that time of the year, isn't it where
we pick our politician of the year. And for me,
it's the same person that I picked last year. Now,
what I want to say is political commentators, myself included,
at times, have an unfortunate tendency to sometimes choose politicians
because the politicians are good at playing the political game.
And if you're into that kind of thing, you might
have picked this year Hanad Arfady. Might be Clark because
(03:05):
she collected her Time Magazine Time Mags Award. This year.
You might pack Chris Hopkins because he's resurrected his party's
fortunes from a horror twenty twenty three election result. Maybe
Ardena Williams from Labor for giving good speeches or Shane
Jones for getting attention. But at a time when we
all acknowledge that our country is in a little bit
of a poly crisis, slipping further behind the pack, I
think the most important measure is not actually whether a
(03:27):
politician is good at politics. It's whether a politician is
making an actual difference, and no other politician is making
as big a difference or as quickly in an area
as important as Erica Stanford is. Already, kids are learning
more than they have for years now. The results from
her phone exchanges just a couple of months ago was
so dramatic that a staff member in her office burst
(03:48):
into tears. She is doing this despite increasing resistance from teachers' unions.
Parents are raving about the changes that they're seeing. Teachers
themselves are noticing the difference. Nothing is more important than
our kids and educating our kids properly and on the politics.
If that is your measure, she can actually play politics
as well as anyone. I mean, you watch her closely,
and you watch her opponent's lo earn the lesson of
(04:10):
getting tangled up with Erica Stanford. Just ask willo jin
Prime how that went. So, Erica Stanford it is, and again,
because nothing beats having a good idea and being brave
enough to execute it and then helping to turn this
country around.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
No mention of the bassoon. I mean, I don't think
there's anybody else who plays the pursuon, certainly not as
well as Erica Stanford does. That's why I'd give her
most prizes just because of that. Everybody forgets about that.
I don't know how you can forget about that. It's
the only thing I think of, and I think of it.
I can't even remember what she's the minister of. I
just think of Vera's being the minister of Bison. Right.
(04:44):
Remember the Kisscam? Yes, you do? It was the massive
the cold Play kiscams. Come on, you do? It wasn't
there long ago?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I ask you this question, like, do you remember the
cold playcis Caam? Of course you remember the cold playkiscam.
Absolutely everybody does. The woman at the center of the
cold Play Kistcam, has now spoken out for the first
time to The New York Times, about four or five
months after the thing has happened. She's she reckons that
she had never been in a sexual relationship with her
boss until that night. She says, before that night they'd
(05:16):
never even kissed. She decided she was breaking up from
her husband, she says, was very new breaking up from
the husband. Was going to go and see Cold Play
with some friends. Hadn't been out for a very long time.
She and the boss had had started connecting with each other,
and you know, it as always happens, she said, oh,
my marriage is breaking up, and he said, oh, my
marriage is breaking up too. You know how that thing happens.
(05:37):
So then of course, all of a sudden, you know,
she invited him out and they went. They went into
this like vip loungey bit that they were in and
had a couple of tequilas, and before you know it,
they're having a smooch and then he was dancing and
she put her arms around him, and anyway, the rest
is history.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
The thing when people feel unexpected feelings when they go
to cold Play, don't they?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, And when they have tequila's, a couple of tequilas
will help you along that journey quite well as well. Anyway,
she is trying to clear her name in this whole thing,
and you know, she doesn't want to accept that this
is what her life isn't fair enough to her because
the whole thing went completely mental. She had about five
your sixty death threats and people were being horrible to
her at the gas station, and her children are mortified,
And there is a degree of self reflection that we
(06:16):
have to do as a society that every part of
the world that consumed that and formed opinions on it.
But I'm not really sure. Well, I mean, you're entitled
to an opinion, it's whether you then took it to her.
But I'm not really sure that speaking out about it
publicly has necessarily helped her case. So I don't know
how many people are going to believe that was the
first time they had a bit of a snog anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
Spira thought for the people who make kiss cams, I mean,
they've really gone out of vogue new.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
It's been a tough end to that business for them.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, that's weird, isn't it that anybody would think that
this is still interesting and that anybody cares about this? Now?
Why would you judg it all up again? So weird?
It's the rewrap, right, It's that time of the year
where things go wrong that you're not going to be
able to do anything about because it's that time of
the year.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
We've got it. We've still got the old gas stove,
so still, you know, because fossil feels we've got the gas.
We have the gas cook top, right and it's a
stat anyway, whatever the oven works. But yesterday I went
to do it, turn the gas on. Gas is coming out,
but the click click click thing that ignites it, the
ignition not working. And I thought, I saw I fiddled
a re turned the switch on and off at the wall.
(07:19):
You know, the it guys say, do that. I did that.
I lit it with a lighter. It tried everything called
the sparky Jake called me back at eight o'clock last
night to talk. Can't figure it out, and I thought, jeez,
that's just the day that you need that you need
the gas guy to come around on the very last
Friday before Christmas. This is just I feel like this
is going to go well for me. What do you think?
(07:39):
I feel like I'm going to spend January lighting the
stovetop with a lighter, which looked to be honest, let's
be fair, first world problems, but unfortunate timing, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeh? See this lines up with my conspiracy, my gas
conspiracy theory. I went through a period where when I
tried to put my burners on low, they just turn off,
and I began to suspect that they doled down the
gas pressure. Is that something that they can do? Or
am I just getting paradoid for re wrap anyway, of course,
this then became the old thing that anybody could think
(08:09):
about or talk about Morning Heather.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Should we all be replacing our gas hobs and water
for electricity? Actually, very good question and serendipitous question from you, Monica.
So I was had a thing the other night and
I was talking to a I won't say who, but
it was the CEO of one of the big, big
electricity businesses here in New Zealand. And I asked exactly
this question as somebody who does have the gas coming
(08:32):
out of the stove at the moment, As I said
to this person, do we all need to do the switch?
And he said no, because because it's really the big
users who are the ones who's stuffed by the lack
of gas. Right, So you're thinking about the likes of
meth and X. And then Spira thought, for all the
guys who are trying to like warm hothouses and stuff
like that using gas. If you're just using gas domestically,
(08:52):
you're probably okay for a wee bit. It's gonna get pricey, yer,
but it's not that pricing. Converting from gas to electricity
is mind blowingly expensive. You do not want to do that.
And I guarantee you at some stage that, given that
it's New Zealand, whatever government's in there is going to
come out with a grant like we did for oh,
do you need to insulate your house, here's some thousands
of dollars for you. They'll do that. They'll go here's
(09:13):
some thousands of dollars for you to convert away from gas.
So I would say just wait for that, because that's inevitable.
But what he said you can do is for a
much smaller price, you can convert from mains gas into
bottle gas, so you could get ye LPG bottle instead.
And that is a bit of a fath The German
who works with me on drive has that. My mum
has that at her house and running out of gas
(09:33):
every now and because you know there'll be a husband
who forgets to order the gas and or some boring
thing like that. That's an issue, but it's cheaper and
it's probably the way to go here that you need
to get with the times and get an air fryer.
And look, I know everybody raves about an air fry
but an air fryer is a It's a concession, isn't it.
I mean, it's probably smart, but it's the kind of
thing that you do when you have children. It's unique
(09:53):
to families with children. It's like all of a sudden,
you start eating thousands of sausages and you get an
air fryer. And I don't know that I'm quite there
yet in time.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Well, why why do you think she was talking about
to electricians about gas? Isn't that eight it's the plumbers
that do the gas, isn't it. I feel like she's
going to get, you know, not very objective advice about
converting to electricity. Mind you, I suppose she talks to
a plumber. She's not going to get very unbiased advice either.
(10:24):
We just talk to the guy who does the windows
or hangs up the pictures. What do you mean you
don't have a guy who hangs up the pictures. Oh,
that's right, that's actually only my gosting you guest, I
am glear hat. That was the final rewrap for the year.
We'll see you back here again in a few weeks time,
and you know what, I might even have a Mike
(10:44):
costing for you. Believe it or not, see.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
It then for more from News Talk st B, listen
live on air or online, and keep our shows with
you wherever you go with our podcast on iHeartRadio.
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