April 22, 2026 • 15 mins
THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Thursday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) How to Tank Your Reputation In 5 Easy Steps/Why Would You Vote for That?/Conversion Compensation/Eying Iranian Autos
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
The Rewrapday, the Welcome to the Rewrap for Thursday. All
the best, but's from the Miclassing Breakfast on News Talks
EDB in a sillier package, I am Glenn Hart and
today Winston Peters and Chris Hipkins up to no good
in the house yesterday and you know who was watching
the house yesterday. That's right, our humble host. The gas supply, well,
(00:46):
it's it's not good. But is that anybody's fault? And
does is anybody ow to hand out to convert to
something else? And the Iranian car industry is not something
we talk about every day, but it's something we talked
about today. But before any of that, so the National
Party leadership situation, one of the people who demanded they
(01:11):
have a right to come on even after we gave
them the right to come on, and they refused to
come on, then finally agreed to come on, and then
he didn't come on.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Evening Andy, as from Joseph, I've reconsidered giving the extensive
media coverage I've had today in this evening I really
don't have anything further to add to what I've said
and tweeted. I would appreciate an on air apology from
mister Hosking, though for not giving me an opportunity to
comment before he made his unfounded allegations. The only thing
I would add is that if mister Hoskins impeccable source
(01:44):
had the courage to come out from the shadows, I
would welcome coming on the show to confront him. As
I've said in my tweet, it simply didn't happen. Now
the problem we have, actually, I don't think we have
a problem. I'm thoroughly bored witness with us now. My
only regret out of this whole exercise, and I'll come
back a little bit. I think Andrew Bailey is angry
with me as well. My only purpose in this whole
exercise was to flush a few people out because too
(02:07):
much of the stuff goes on behind the scenes. And
this is standard journalism day and day out. And so
somebody who sidles up to somebody else and goes, hey,
have you heard this? Do you know this? Guess what
I know? And so it goes round and around in circles,
and because nobody ever names anybody, they get away with it.
So my purpose was to just remind the people running
this country that they might want to focus less on
themselves and more on actually trying to extricate us out
(02:31):
of the crap that we're currently in. And if you
want people's votes and you make some promises come election time,
you might want to start delivering on them and stop
focusing on your own personal circumstances. So I think that's
probably where we'll leave it, unless somebody wants to tweet
something else out. But I mean, all I can do
is offer them a chance to come on the program.
(02:52):
No one wanted to. I read their responses yesterday. I've
got one response coming from Bailey, who was angry at
me that I didn't read his entire response for not
coming on, But I'll do that later. But anyway, they
didn't want to come on. One who did want to
come on now doesn't want to come on. So I mean,
I can't spend my entire week saying come on, don't
come on, come on, don't come on, don't come on,
come on, because that just gets boring. And I've got
a headache.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
And of.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Being of advancing maturity as Hosking is we don't want
him to have headaches to contend with. Interesting that Mooney
still tweets. How does he do that given that Twitter
hasn't been Twitter for some years now?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
The rewrap anyway, where does a little leave us? Basically,
after all that.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
So Joseph Mooney not with us this morning, he doesn't
want to participate anymore, and I might I can actually
congratulate him on that. That's good because this is a
storm and a teacup. I name the names. I had
a very good source or two, and I stand behind it.
My only meat and the Sandwich situation is they of
all denied it. But then again, what else were they
(03:58):
going to do? As I anticipated they would? Obviously my
only client. My only regret is the story has continued
a little bit longer than it needed to. And my
only other regret is, if, for example, the sources that
supplied us with the information turned out to be wrong,
I'd be more than happy to apologize. I'm not in
the business of upsetting people, and I'm not in the
business or putting out information that's incorrect. But at this
(04:20):
particular point, I had no reason to believe I have.
But interestingly enough What I didn't realize at the time
was Bryce Edwards was out. He's the political commentator. He
was out on social media before I ever was, he
says quote. The names circulating around National and Parliament are
by now familiar. Barbara Kuruger, Sam Muffindell, Andrew Bailey, Tim
(04:40):
Vander Molan telling Lee Stuart Smith he turned out to
be an odd fish yesterday, didn't they You see that
stand up on the tiles of Parliament when oddfish James
Meagher's name kept drifting in and out the same sentence. Now,
I didn't name Mega because I wasn't told Mega. But
Mega allegedly, according to some, was the numbers man for
Bishop Richard Harmon. This is Bryce still. Richard Harmon noted
(05:02):
in Politic Today that the same small group of MPs
who were thought to be behind the leadership speculation last
novem are under suspicion again singling out Meager and Uffendel
both deny any involvement. Well, of course they would, what
else can you do? Or, as Bryce says, they would,
the backbench mutterers are not the real danger. Back benches
(05:22):
and marginal seats or bad list spots always grumble when
their futures in doubt. The danger is above them. The
name that keeps resurfacing, as it has for months is
Chris Bishop, But then Richard Harmon. At Politic, they write,
who is possibly better connected with the National Caucus than
anyone writing today, says the Hosking named five are not
(05:44):
the whole story. As far as Politic understands, there may
be at least another three or four. Coglin Thomas, instigator
of this whole story, agrees Luxon is likely to know
those names only scratch the surface of descent. So which
brings me to my new idea. So I've named five,
(06:07):
and I have five deny, So how about I name
another five? And with a caucus of forty nine, I
think it's forty nine, let's take Luxon out, because I
assume he's not wind to acting himself, so forty eight.
Let's name five a day for what eight days? And
then we'll get forty eight denials, And then there were apparently,
(06:28):
according to the denials, then was never a problem at all,
hence no need for a meeting. Ever, what do you
think of that?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I would like to take it a step further and
get Mike to name people who aren't even in the
National Party. It just makes it in fact who aren't
actually people, and just see how much of a media
friendzy we can create create about them.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
We wrap we're getting a bit silly. We're getting a
bit silly.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I think we're getting a bit silly, not as silly
as what goes on in the actual houses of Parliament.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Day I was just wrote my sigh by the way
I sort of conflated a number of issues. I felt
sorry for Maclay yesterday Peters was going out him over
this trade deal. And this is part of my overall malaise,
which in a way dubtails into the Mooney Famous Five,
Fabulous five, whatever you want to call them, And that
(07:18):
is that if you listen to this program on a
regular and ongoing basis, you know that all I really
seek is for this country to be better, and I
want the people who are running the country to focus
pretty much on that task, because we're in a pile
of trouble and we need a lot of professionals working
really hard to extract us out of the crap we're
currently in. So I'm watching Peters, who's entitled to his view,
(07:38):
of course, but it's all xenophobic. I mean, but a
chicken tsunami. I mean, for God's sake, honestly, is that
what we've come down to. This is the problem I
had with Peters. And you notice I got a couple
of minutes because we've just moved Erica. We're going to
have Erica in a Golden visa thing, but we're putting
here at seven thirty five because Josephs pulled out. Let
me come to that in a moment, but I'm watching,
but a check in tsunami? Is that what we come to?
And this is my problem with New Zealand. First, I
(07:59):
like Peters, and I like what he's done on the
international stage. I like the way he represents us. I
like the way he is active. I like the way
he's out there hustling and putting us back in front
of people to get us back on the international stage
in a way that we can be proud of. But
then come election time, it's the same old thing. It's
like the entertainer. It's like the millionaire entertainer. It's like
(08:21):
the who's that guy used to sing in Vegas? Liberachi,
It's like the liberaceis. And so they're out there talking
to the fans, but the fans they don't like the fans,
and the two don't dubtail together. So the people who
support broadly speaking, Peters are the people who are the
racists and the xenophobes. So he's got to appeal to
those in an election year. Rest of the time he's
(08:43):
happy being on the international stage, being the international statesman.
But the moment he needs the votes, he goes back
down home domestic and gets down and dirty with it,
and he gets all the low renters to support him.
And that's the part I don't like about New Zealand first,
and then I'm watching Nikola yesterday and Hepkins is a pillock,
a pratt, and a prick. And so what he said
(09:04):
yesterday about Willis was completely and utterly uncalled for. And
not only was it uncalled for, when he was asked
to withdraw and apologize, he did a key astarmer as
almost as though they go to labor leaders school to
be a pratt and a Pelican a prick, and that
is that they try and wom their way out of it. Anyway,
she was clearly apoplectic with rage, which brings me to
(09:29):
my overarching point here, which is I just wonder when
I look at the mcclay's and the Willis's and the
Luxns of this world who whether you support them or
not doesn't matter. But what you can't mark them down
on is their desire to make this country a better place.
And all they get each and every day is an
endless array of half wits and problems and backstabbings and gossiping,
(09:53):
innuendo and stuff tossed at them that makes their life. Well,
what I saw in Willis's face yesterday was a do
I really need this in my life? What am I
doing here type vibe? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, it almost makes you wonder if the country would
just get a lot a lot better without any of them,
and just let people do stuff and stop arguing about
things all the time and find reasons not to do things.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Does it start? Is that where it starts? At Parliament?
The rewrap right?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
So yeah, not only do we have a fuel shortage,
of course, remember we also have a gas shortage, which
was happening before the actual fuel shortage happened. And how
everybody was going to have to you know, change off
gas and go on to I don't know, magic dust.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Very poor example actually, of welfarerism has come to our
attention this week from Business New Zealand. They want cheap
loans from the government so their members can transition from
gas to something else. They called it a rare plea
as well they might given their called Business New Zealand,
not Welfare New Zealand. See, this country's already besieged with
those who love a handout, and we've all been reminded
(10:59):
of such as of the start of Epic Fury. Now,
I'm not sure whether the percentage of the New Zealand
population has always been large when it comes to someone
else paying for your life, or whether weed to taste
for it. During COVID and the Robertson adurned years of
largess But Epic Fury wasn't too many days into the
bombing before calls from all sides came for food and clothes,
and of course, cheap petrel. Just yesterday The Herald managed
(11:19):
to find a group who claimed they couldn't afford the
petrol to get to the free food at the charity outlet,
so sort of a supply chain crunch for freebies. Business
New Zealand's argument is predicated on the idea gas is
running out and running out faster than we thought. Small reminder,
this news isn't new news. We've known this for years.
They go on to say the situation was created by
(11:40):
the political decision to ban oil and gas. That's mainly
but not entirely true. We were running low anyway. Poor
old Jacinda and her captain's called didn't help. But the
point is the red flags have been flying for a
while now. Of all the people who should know, nothing
is free, its business, as represented by Business New Zealands,
someone always pays. If the government ran a surplus, I
(12:01):
guess they could use their credit facility as a major
borrower to slip some cheapest money businesses way. Maybe, but
we are pretty much we on an annualized and year
and year out basis, have less than no money. We
spend each head every year more than we make. Sad
but simple truth. From charities to do gooders and the
left leaning economic illiterates, I get it, it's a habit.
(12:22):
But from Business New Zealand, when the people who make
the money and provide the jobs one handouts, we look
of awfully third world and probably need some night classes
on economics.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
One oh one, Yeah, I've never really understood that whole
You're you're in a bit of bother because of circumstances
beyond your control, so somebody else should pay your bills
for I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, I've never understood that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I mean, you're talking to a guy who went busking
when he left school because he didn't want to go
on the doll So yeah, I've got form with that
particular point of view.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I guess not everybody does the rerap.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I mean, if you're really desperate for a job, maybe
you can go and make cars in Iran.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Well, I'm not sure how their business is going at
the moment.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I did some reading on Iran yesterday, because no one
covers Iran obviously. I mean, they're just the guys who
are getting bombed. And that's about as much interest as
we had. And the reason I sparked my interest is
there's been a massive wave. But none of this will
surprise you. There's been a massive wave of redundancies in Iran.
I wonder why that would be anyway. Two million people
(13:32):
have lost their jobs because of the war, and everyone manufacturers,
retailers and pulled export businesses, the digital sector and when
you think of Iran. Do you think of the digital sector? No,
you don't, and what are the problems with the digital
sector at the moment is not really working because they
turned the Internet off, which is of course part of
the digital sector. The Information Communication Technology Minister back in
(13:53):
January said, every day the internet blackout costs the economy.
At least let me do it. New Zealand numbers sixty
five ish million New Zealand dollars a day, so times
that out by fifty two days, and you did dealing
with three or four billion dollars worth of damage. But
then I this this part. I didn't realize Iran's huge
car manufacturing sector, and I thought, what they have a
(14:17):
million people employed in the car industry. Well not anymore obviously,
but they had a million people employed in the car industry.
And I thought, what sort of cars do they make
in Iran? And the answer is the Echo I k Ceo,
the Iran Kodro or the Sipar is the other one.
You can buy a Sipar Tiber or a Sipar quick.
(14:39):
And they've also got the zanyard. Now they look because
I look them up. Obviously, being a car nut, they
look the way you would think they look rude. Rude, Yeah,
pretty rude, larder esque, not unlike the larder, Glenn, are
we talking evs? Or they're built for simple, simple maintenance
(15:03):
and simple running. And so when you go buy the
cyper quick, I think that's probably we false advertising, is
my guess.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Was such a stupid question, wasn't it about the electric vehicles?
Of course they don't have electric vehicles? Well, but they
need electric vehicles. They've got oil bubbling probably just comes
out of the taps there these days, the amount of
infrastructure that's been bombed, We're going, oh, the house has
(15:33):
been bombed. Now I got Now I got oil coming
out of the taps instead of water. What am I
supposed to do with.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
That stupid question? I am Glen Hart.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I'm not afraid to ask stupid questions, which is why
I keep doing it. And I'll probably have some Mouna
mars See then.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
The Rewrapday, the Welcome to the Rewrap for Thursday. All
the best, but's from the Miclassing Breakfast on News Talks
EDB in a sillier package, I am Glenn Hart and
today Winston Peters and Chris Hipkins up to no good
in the house yesterday and you know who was watching
the house yesterday. That's right, our humble host. The gas supply, well,
(00:46):
it's it's not good. But is that anybody's fault? And
does is anybody ow to hand out to convert to
something else? And the Iranian car industry is not something
we talk about every day, but it's something we talked
about today. But before any of that, so the National
Party leadership situation, one of the people who demanded they
(01:11):
have a right to come on even after we gave
them the right to come on, and they refused to
come on, then finally agreed to come on, and then
he didn't come on.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Evening Andy, as from Joseph, I've reconsidered giving the extensive
media coverage I've had today in this evening I really
don't have anything further to add to what I've said
and tweeted. I would appreciate an on air apology from
mister Hosking, though for not giving me an opportunity to
comment before he made his unfounded allegations. The only thing
I would add is that if mister Hoskins impeccable source
(01:44):
had the courage to come out from the shadows, I
would welcome coming on the show to confront him. As
I've said in my tweet, it simply didn't happen. Now
the problem we have, actually, I don't think we have
a problem. I'm thoroughly bored witness with us now. My
only regret out of this whole exercise, and I'll come
back a little bit. I think Andrew Bailey is angry
with me as well. My only purpose in this whole
exercise was to flush a few people out because too
(02:07):
much of the stuff goes on behind the scenes. And
this is standard journalism day and day out. And so
somebody who sidles up to somebody else and goes, hey,
have you heard this? Do you know this? Guess what
I know? And so it goes round and around in circles,
and because nobody ever names anybody, they get away with it.
So my purpose was to just remind the people running
this country that they might want to focus less on
themselves and more on actually trying to extricate us out
(02:31):
of the crap that we're currently in. And if you
want people's votes and you make some promises come election time,
you might want to start delivering on them and stop
focusing on your own personal circumstances. So I think that's
probably where we'll leave it, unless somebody wants to tweet
something else out. But I mean, all I can do
is offer them a chance to come on the program.
(02:52):
No one wanted to. I read their responses yesterday. I've
got one response coming from Bailey, who was angry at
me that I didn't read his entire response for not
coming on, But I'll do that later. But anyway, they
didn't want to come on. One who did want to
come on now doesn't want to come on. So I mean,
I can't spend my entire week saying come on, don't
come on, come on, don't come on, don't come on,
come on, because that just gets boring. And I've got
a headache.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
And of.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Being of advancing maturity as Hosking is we don't want
him to have headaches to contend with. Interesting that Mooney
still tweets. How does he do that given that Twitter
hasn't been Twitter for some years now?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
The rewrap anyway, where does a little leave us? Basically,
after all that.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
So Joseph Mooney not with us this morning, he doesn't
want to participate anymore, and I might I can actually
congratulate him on that. That's good because this is a
storm and a teacup. I name the names. I had
a very good source or two, and I stand behind it.
My only meat and the Sandwich situation is they of
all denied it. But then again, what else were they
(03:58):
going to do? As I anticipated they would? Obviously my
only client. My only regret is the story has continued
a little bit longer than it needed to. And my
only other regret is, if, for example, the sources that
supplied us with the information turned out to be wrong,
I'd be more than happy to apologize. I'm not in
the business of upsetting people, and I'm not in the
business or putting out information that's incorrect. But at this
(04:20):
particular point, I had no reason to believe I have.
But interestingly enough What I didn't realize at the time
was Bryce Edwards was out. He's the political commentator. He
was out on social media before I ever was, he
says quote. The names circulating around National and Parliament are
by now familiar. Barbara Kuruger, Sam Muffindell, Andrew Bailey, Tim
(04:40):
Vander Molan telling Lee Stuart Smith he turned out to
be an odd fish yesterday, didn't they You see that
stand up on the tiles of Parliament when oddfish James
Meagher's name kept drifting in and out the same sentence. Now,
I didn't name Mega because I wasn't told Mega. But
Mega allegedly, according to some, was the numbers man for
Bishop Richard Harmon. This is Bryce still. Richard Harmon noted
(05:02):
in Politic Today that the same small group of MPs
who were thought to be behind the leadership speculation last
novem are under suspicion again singling out Meager and Uffendel
both deny any involvement. Well, of course they would, what
else can you do? Or, as Bryce says, they would,
the backbench mutterers are not the real danger. Back benches
(05:22):
and marginal seats or bad list spots always grumble when
their futures in doubt. The danger is above them. The
name that keeps resurfacing, as it has for months is
Chris Bishop, But then Richard Harmon. At Politic, they write,
who is possibly better connected with the National Caucus than
anyone writing today, says the Hosking named five are not
(05:44):
the whole story. As far as Politic understands, there may
be at least another three or four. Coglin Thomas, instigator
of this whole story, agrees Luxon is likely to know
those names only scratch the surface of descent. So which
brings me to my new idea. So I've named five,
(06:07):
and I have five deny, So how about I name
another five? And with a caucus of forty nine, I
think it's forty nine, let's take Luxon out, because I
assume he's not wind to acting himself, so forty eight.
Let's name five a day for what eight days? And
then we'll get forty eight denials, And then there were apparently,
(06:28):
according to the denials, then was never a problem at all,
hence no need for a meeting. Ever, what do you
think of that?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
I would like to take it a step further and
get Mike to name people who aren't even in the
National Party. It just makes it in fact who aren't
actually people, and just see how much of a media
friendzy we can create create about them.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
We wrap we're getting a bit silly. We're getting a
bit silly.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
I think we're getting a bit silly, not as silly
as what goes on in the actual houses of Parliament.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Day I was just wrote my sigh by the way
I sort of conflated a number of issues. I felt
sorry for Maclay yesterday Peters was going out him over
this trade deal. And this is part of my overall malaise,
which in a way dubtails into the Mooney Famous Five,
Fabulous five, whatever you want to call them, And that
(07:18):
is that if you listen to this program on a
regular and ongoing basis, you know that all I really
seek is for this country to be better, and I
want the people who are running the country to focus
pretty much on that task, because we're in a pile
of trouble and we need a lot of professionals working
really hard to extract us out of the crap we're
currently in. So I'm watching Peters, who's entitled to his view,
(07:38):
of course, but it's all xenophobic. I mean, but a
chicken tsunami. I mean, for God's sake, honestly, is that
what we've come down to. This is the problem I
had with Peters. And you notice I got a couple
of minutes because we've just moved Erica. We're going to
have Erica in a Golden visa thing, but we're putting
here at seven thirty five because Josephs pulled out. Let
me come to that in a moment, but I'm watching,
but a check in tsunami? Is that what we come to?
And this is my problem with New Zealand. First, I
(07:59):
like Peters, and I like what he's done on the
international stage. I like the way he represents us. I
like the way he is active. I like the way
he's out there hustling and putting us back in front
of people to get us back on the international stage
in a way that we can be proud of. But
then come election time, it's the same old thing. It's
like the entertainer. It's like the millionaire entertainer. It's like
(08:21):
the who's that guy used to sing in Vegas? Liberachi,
It's like the liberaceis. And so they're out there talking
to the fans, but the fans they don't like the fans,
and the two don't dubtail together. So the people who
support broadly speaking, Peters are the people who are the
racists and the xenophobes. So he's got to appeal to
those in an election year. Rest of the time he's
(08:43):
happy being on the international stage, being the international statesman.
But the moment he needs the votes, he goes back
down home domestic and gets down and dirty with it,
and he gets all the low renters to support him.
And that's the part I don't like about New Zealand first,
and then I'm watching Nikola yesterday and Hepkins is a pillock,
a pratt, and a prick. And so what he said
(09:04):
yesterday about Willis was completely and utterly uncalled for. And
not only was it uncalled for, when he was asked
to withdraw and apologize, he did a key astarmer as
almost as though they go to labor leaders school to
be a pratt and a Pelican a prick, and that
is that they try and wom their way out of it. Anyway,
she was clearly apoplectic with rage, which brings me to
(09:29):
my overarching point here, which is I just wonder when
I look at the mcclay's and the Willis's and the
Luxns of this world who whether you support them or
not doesn't matter. But what you can't mark them down
on is their desire to make this country a better place.
And all they get each and every day is an
endless array of half wits and problems and backstabbings and gossiping,
(09:53):
innuendo and stuff tossed at them that makes their life. Well,
what I saw in Willis's face yesterday was a do
I really need this in my life? What am I
doing here type vibe? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, it almost makes you wonder if the country would
just get a lot a lot better without any of them,
and just let people do stuff and stop arguing about
things all the time and find reasons not to do things.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Does it start? Is that where it starts? At Parliament?
The rewrap right?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
So yeah, not only do we have a fuel shortage,
of course, remember we also have a gas shortage, which
was happening before the actual fuel shortage happened. And how
everybody was going to have to you know, change off
gas and go on to I don't know, magic dust.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Very poor example actually, of welfarerism has come to our
attention this week from Business New Zealand. They want cheap
loans from the government so their members can transition from
gas to something else. They called it a rare plea
as well they might given their called Business New Zealand,
not Welfare New Zealand. See, this country's already besieged with
those who love a handout, and we've all been reminded
(10:59):
of such as of the start of Epic Fury. Now,
I'm not sure whether the percentage of the New Zealand
population has always been large when it comes to someone
else paying for your life, or whether weed to taste
for it. During COVID and the Robertson adurned years of
largess But Epic Fury wasn't too many days into the
bombing before calls from all sides came for food and clothes,
and of course, cheap petrel. Just yesterday The Herald managed
(11:19):
to find a group who claimed they couldn't afford the
petrol to get to the free food at the charity outlet,
so sort of a supply chain crunch for freebies. Business
New Zealand's argument is predicated on the idea gas is
running out and running out faster than we thought. Small reminder,
this news isn't new news. We've known this for years.
They go on to say the situation was created by
(11:40):
the political decision to ban oil and gas. That's mainly
but not entirely true. We were running low anyway. Poor
old Jacinda and her captain's called didn't help. But the
point is the red flags have been flying for a
while now. Of all the people who should know, nothing
is free, its business, as represented by Business New Zealands,
someone always pays. If the government ran a surplus, I
(12:01):
guess they could use their credit facility as a major
borrower to slip some cheapest money businesses way. Maybe, but
we are pretty much we on an annualized and year
and year out basis, have less than no money. We
spend each head every year more than we make. Sad
but simple truth. From charities to do gooders and the
left leaning economic illiterates, I get it, it's a habit.
(12:22):
But from Business New Zealand, when the people who make
the money and provide the jobs one handouts, we look
of awfully third world and probably need some night classes
on economics.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
One oh one, Yeah, I've never really understood that whole
You're you're in a bit of bother because of circumstances
beyond your control, so somebody else should pay your bills
for I don't.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah, I've never understood that.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
I mean, you're talking to a guy who went busking
when he left school because he didn't want to go
on the doll So yeah, I've got form with that
particular point of view.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
I guess not everybody does the rerap.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I mean, if you're really desperate for a job, maybe
you can go and make cars in Iran.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Well, I'm not sure how their business is going at
the moment.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I did some reading on Iran yesterday, because no one
covers Iran obviously. I mean, they're just the guys who
are getting bombed. And that's about as much interest as
we had. And the reason I sparked my interest is
there's been a massive wave. But none of this will
surprise you. There's been a massive wave of redundancies in Iran.
I wonder why that would be anyway. Two million people
(13:32):
have lost their jobs because of the war, and everyone manufacturers,
retailers and pulled export businesses, the digital sector and when
you think of Iran. Do you think of the digital sector? No,
you don't, and what are the problems with the digital
sector at the moment is not really working because they
turned the Internet off, which is of course part of
the digital sector. The Information Communication Technology Minister back in
(13:53):
January said, every day the internet blackout costs the economy.
At least let me do it. New Zealand numbers sixty
five ish million New Zealand dollars a day, so times
that out by fifty two days, and you did dealing
with three or four billion dollars worth of damage. But
then I this this part. I didn't realize Iran's huge
car manufacturing sector, and I thought, what they have a
(14:17):
million people employed in the car industry. Well not anymore obviously,
but they had a million people employed in the car industry.
And I thought, what sort of cars do they make
in Iran? And the answer is the Echo I k Ceo,
the Iran Kodro or the Sipar is the other one.
You can buy a Sipar Tiber or a Sipar quick.
(14:39):
And they've also got the zanyard. Now they look because
I look them up. Obviously, being a car nut, they
look the way you would think they look rude. Rude, Yeah,
pretty rude, larder esque, not unlike the larder, Glenn, are
we talking evs? Or they're built for simple, simple maintenance
(15:03):
and simple running. And so when you go buy the
cyper quick, I think that's probably we false advertising, is
my guess.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Was such a stupid question, wasn't it about the electric vehicles?
Of course they don't have electric vehicles? Well, but they
need electric vehicles. They've got oil bubbling probably just comes
out of the taps there these days, the amount of
infrastructure that's been bombed, We're going, oh, the house has
(15:33):
been bombed. Now I got Now I got oil coming
out of the taps instead of water. What am I
supposed to do with.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
That stupid question? I am Glen Hart.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I'm not afraid to ask stupid questions, which is why
I keep doing it. And I'll probably have some Mouna
mars See then.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
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