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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Who what's up his lip service man?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm G. G.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Maguire, I'm Koya Jim Jones. Listen, thank you for coming back.
Welcome back your second time on the show. The first
time was legendary, but now honestly for real, I am
glad that your Jim Jones is back here, a legend
back in the building. Yes, thank you very much, and
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freshly dressed too about it. Yes, it's the Van Cleef
that is doing it for me.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Jimmy is always very stylish. He's been in money for
a long time. That's his thing. He'd be trusting all
of those, all of that.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
It's a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
And listen. And you have a new summer song out
right now called.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Two Turned T Turn. We like it Turn.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
There was some debates about certain things though, Yeah, like
we'll get into it. Go ahead. You said I didn't
give ahead of no Nissan. Yeah, I mean it wasn't
something you said, but that's in the in the chorus.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
They was like, stop acting like you never gave head.
And at some point, at some point, at some point
in your travels in life, you gave head in a Honda.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I gave affinity, I gave hid an Alexis I have.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Been is the Honda that's not that's not like, that's
not like you heard.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Like I feel like that's the lowest side, the lowest.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You sure up nothing in high school? What's the lowest?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
I was drop dating drug dealers in high school, so
I definitely wasn't getting it like that. Yeah, but what
was your worst car you ever had when you were younger?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
My stepfather used to let me hold this. Uh, I
don't even know what the ship was called the Real No, no,
just I bust A couple moves in it and you
have no power steering.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But my first call was like the accurate accurate.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I gave him an extra before. Okay, so you're equivalent
to any sign. And you can't get head in a
car that has no power steering because you gotta fu's
too much like you can't.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Well, you got it, I mean it depends you know.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
That used to say it's bad luck to have sex
in the cary. You never heard that, No, Yeah, they
used to tell us that. Maybe I don't know if
it was just maybe they told you, but they used
to say it was bad luck. Nobody never heard that.
Now you're talking about I gotta google this because I
swear that was a thing. They told you that so
you wouldn't have because like back in the day, there
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used to be like park up spots where people would put.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
You get a car because you can.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Okay, see sex and the car is bad luck. Is
it true that having sex in your cars to sign
of bad luck? The sex cars back? Okay?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I never like, well from that, no, that's not a thing.
Angel car was bought for sex? Well from it's like
a right.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Now when you look, do cars malfunction after having sex
in them? What?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I never heard of that? That is crazy.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
But I'm just warning everybody listening right now, it's crazy.
I just don't have sex and your niece break line
go a field.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Like go to v FO out here.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
I ain't gonna lie. I wanted a Nissan path find
it so bad when I was younger. That was like
the car that I wanted to get. But I wanted
some like crazy cars.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
First.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
I wanted and a Susu Amigo so bad. I was young.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
We wanted to side. I wanted to side that was
sidekick was like a range when I wanted it.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
You times change, Remember everybody had as the MPV at
one point like wow, man.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Man Omar got that when he graduated from high school,
like in ninety three ninety four, we were so jealous
he had the navy blue joint.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
They used to put the TVs in there, and then
you just think people are gonna pop.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Out on you and them like wow, that's when the
mixtape people used to have a briefcase full of real mixtapes.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
The joints you put in the tapes the wrong g Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, you've been through a lot of errors if you
think about it, because you know what things progress and
change like so fast. If you think about when you
first started and the way music is distributed now, it
is like something you could never have envisioned.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Nah, but I wouldn't think moved music and moved as
fast and have so easy access to it and so
easy access to put music out.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
We were.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
We couldn't have seen that back when we was grinding,
going to different stations.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
It wasn't on Instagram. We had to go to all
these states to try to meet all these people to
try to get.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Your radio music played, and you had to be at
the Power Summit promo.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
All of those summings. I didn't get every Jack the
Rapper Impact. I didn't been out out the country for
for for conventions, but the conventions those are those are
some of the prime moments inside of my career as
far as being an artist, Like I can't lie those
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conventions with fun and ship. Those were like college moments
for us. We didn't get to go to college.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So being at a.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Convention five six holes some people all in one big hotel.
Sometimes it was in Puerto Rico. Sometimes yeah, Florida.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Miami, like it was all it was. It was those
were Those were definitely when they were doing those, it
was definitely.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
A thing they should bring some of that back because
I feel like people don't do stuff in person like
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
But the time has changed. I don't think you get
the same feeling.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Like the people that were in who were the influencial
leaders at the time, was really bringing a moment to
the to the playing field. Like when you went to
them places, you had them big dogs that was coming
out and putting on them parties and you couldn't wait
to get to a death Jam party or couldn't wait
to get it to a Rockefeller party.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
I remember remember the Magic Convention in Vegas. People would
never know what that was like because y'all had a
clothing line.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Was crazy. Magic was one of those, was one of those.
It was one of those events to it was just
a good time.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
For people listening. That was like a clothing like a
streetwear convention. But remember all the rappers used to have
clothing lines, and y'all had your clothing line too, so
that's what everybody and used to see everybody. I remember
I went to a party and Michael Jordan was at
the party and I was like, damn, I can't believe
Michael Jordan is in this party. I think it might
have been like Fubu or something at Magic.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
But even with that, the social media in and in
all the access is watered that damn because now people
just everything forward and make their orders when it was
really popping and you didn't have no access to that.
So everybody had to really go to Vegas and then
it was a fucking big party like close was not
what people would really think about.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
They was like weary party exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
It's so different now. But you know what, yeah, I
will say though, like you think you missed those days.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I missed him in a sense of that. It was
a hell of a good time. But I'm still having
a good time out.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Here because I look at Versus and Versus kind of
brings back that nostalgic type of feeling where everybody that was,
everybody was.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
There was a great feeling.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
I definitely if you were younger, from a younger generation
and you didn't get to experience how things were moving
and that was that was as close as you're going
to get to. It was that night, and that was
an incredible night.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Shelson, my diplomat brothers.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
She was a freaking that was fucking funny as ship.
But I do want to say I knew that the
Locks were going to be more organized. I knew it.
I said that for because they I don't know. I
just couldn't see y'all doing all the necessary rehearsals.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, we definitely just pulled up like we.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Just happy to read back. Fun That was one of
the best one.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
You know, it was cool, it was good.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That shit was very entertaining. It was extremely entertaining. With
the way things are, especially with social media. Do you
feel away like that back in the day you had
to like really put in work and you feel like
now social media, let use that workload for a lot
of artist.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Don't feel good.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
I don't want to put as much work, but it
it makes it easier on me. Ship, I'm cool with it.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, and you actually made some great money. I remember
you also had an office in Atlantic in the building
I used to be. I used to see his name
on the door, but he was never there. But he
was never there. I feel like you got banned from
the building or something.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
I had all I was like director of A and
R for Warner Music Group.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I have like one of the biggest positions.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Everybody that you knew back then, the Joey's and the
todd Moscoolers and all, they all worked under me.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
At the time.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I was young and I was smart, but I didn't
understand the opportunity that I had a hand.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
And I didn't have no sound people around me that
would feed me to write information. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
So you know, but shouts to Kevin Lost is my
big dog. I was at the golf thing the other
day with them.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Oh the Malvern Golf the three hundred everybody was there.
So you know how to play golf for real? Okay,
I want to learn because Maez been playing. You don't play.
That's how Robin is robbing serious with that glove ship.
I want to learn.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I'm probably try it out a couple of times.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
I heard you've been tapping into yoga. Let's talk about that.
Find now you do yoga.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
No, I've done yoga before.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Put your legs up behind yoga?
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What's that biggest from yoga?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yoga?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Regular yoga. I was making a joke that they need
to make weeded yoga.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
That's the thing. I say. I've seen it. It's the thing,
and I've actually done that. No, yes, thing in Atlanta
well edible yoga.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I want to go to Atlanta to do weed yoga
out here.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
But I'm just saying it is a thing. People do it.
What about pilates? You tried that yet?
Speaker 2 (09:44):
No, No, pilates is not I didn't get the pilates.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Of pilates is hard. People be thinking it's nothing but
to yours. Yeah, but it's it also will like get
your core right immediately. But you're good with that?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Yeah, I think I'm pretty good. I'll be watching people
doing it, don't it don't look too comforting.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
What what you do in the gym is clearly working
for you, So you're good in your lane, right, yeah,
thank you, Yeah, just and you got me no working
out because yeah, he always complained and calling himself obese, obese.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I don't understand it. He wants to be a model,
he said, he wants to be model sized.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
You know.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
He talk about getting three sixty light bo. I think
he should do it. No, he told me, because he
bought a doctor up there, and he's like, I'm going
to go. I think he should. My God, get the
light boat and then get in the gym to maintainment.
And then you got to change your lifestyle too. You
gotta stop with the liquor and stop being fast.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Encouraging my dog. What is it?
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Would be great content, Yes, it would be great content.
And I feel like this is what And then he
made as no, no, no, no, don't do the app.
That's going too far.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That's my dog. Right. We love.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
You know, we love now, Like he heard you was
coming up here today, so he said he got to
make sure he comes up next week to outdo because
last time y'all had back to back viral moment, y'all.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Did have I want to go viral.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
The last time you recently been a bible. You don't
need to go, Vibra, be so glad that you made
it out of that airport situation. Not only did you
make it out of that situation, but you kind of
fucked them up kind of. Yeah, did you watch what
I'm not Ship?
Speaker 2 (11:34):
I'm like, I just know that that was the furthest
thing from my mind. I was trying to look like
it was not your business, trying to avoid that.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I was trying to avoid it all the way from
on the plane and I was just trying to get
out the door. And I was the last escalator I
had to go down before I could get outside, and
I had security drive everything else right there.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
It just didn't I couldn't make.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
It that he kept fucking with you. Yeah, he was
yelling racial slurs like I don't. I mean, like I'll
clear out because they said you ain't do nothing wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I mean, the conversation got a bit racy on the
on the on the plane, but it was was it
wasn't it affect me And I'm used to harsh talk verbal.
You tell me whatever you want to tell me. I
ain't got no reason to react and.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Ship like that.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So I started on the plane.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yeah, it started. It definitely ensued on the plane.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
And they knew who you were? Did they know who
you were?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
The people on the plane knew HALL was.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
But the guy didn't.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Right, the guy that I got.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Into it, he the gut you sucked up.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
He knew who I was, and he did he was
doing it. He was doing a lot of heck and sh.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Was he drunk or something like?
Speaker 2 (12:49):
I have no idea. Man, God bless that guy. Man.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Well, we're glad that in this particular case.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Justice was served.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
You're nothing wrong and you're clear. And they saw from
the video a few hours he was all worried like.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
They had locked me up and everything, which I was
trying to avoid. It didn't work. I try to smooth
get out of all.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Good thing for all those cameras. Yeah, imagine if they
didn't have that footage, because you know how situations can
go down, that would have been guilty just because you're
black and not just black, but are rapping young and
you probably look like that.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
And that's what that's what it felt like for a minute.
Mm hmm, that's what it felt like. When they told
me how I got I gotta get them and put
them cuffs on.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Just that felt like that. But the school everything for
a reason.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
God is good.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
God is good. The reason you heard I got to
leave id and get in.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Trouble and then you went and celebrated life then get
dressed with his party. Yeah, I know during that time,
you knew the ship was about to go viral too.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Boy, I was like, I'm in the age.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You got to think about that.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Wow, Like, Noah, we got the footage. It shouldn't you
should be good. But I didn't know it was people
behind me already filming that shit.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
You know, this is the first thing people do. Yeah,
so I guess ain't not gonna help.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
People that was on the plane. I've seen it was already.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It was already something brewing. Yeah, they followed them.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah, I caught the moment. They caught their moment. Hope
they got some money for that moment.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
But you know what I think too, Like for Jim Jones,
back in the day, you did have a reputation for
being a hot head, you know, but now it feels
like you've calmed down a lot. What is Yeah, what
are some things that you learned like along that journey,
Because there are people who are just getting into it
now and they react a lot to things, and that's
not an easy situation to be in.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I mean, at a young age, everybody tends to be
a little bit rebellious and hot headed and has a
bit of a temper. So you know, I can't impose
my will ones these younger generations. I can't tell you
be a little bit smaller than the decisions and the
choices you make, oh head, because they could come back.
Haaunt you as you can see what's going on right now.
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As I got older, you had a son with a
lot of things that I chose not to do anymore.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
He said, is twenty now twenty one? Twenty one? That
is wild?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yes it is.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I can't believe that you have because we've seen him
as like a loving hip hop like you know what
I'm saying, see him as a kid. He is now
able to go in the club and order a dream. Yes,
how do you feel about that?
Speaker 2 (15:26):
I feel good. He's a good kid man, did a
good job. He could have.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
Been so different than what he is and things like that.
He I mean, like, I mean, he knows who he
is and what he has and shit like that. But
you know, like the mother kids, he don't be flossing
out here.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
He ain't. He'd be lucky Forga. None of this type
of shit. He just be in his own little world
and do his own little thing. You get to his bag,
you know what I mean? You having his crocks smooth?
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Mean, did you say his crocs? He said he don't
want the balenciagas. He's a simple man.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
You always got some slippers on, slippers, some slippers. It's
a good kid.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Did you ever have to have to talk with him
like about women and relationship?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
I've had every talk with him coming up. I still
have talks with him right now.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Because my parents ain't do that shit with me.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Me neither.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, oh yeah, you know with the mother that I have,
we're very vocal in our environment about safe sex and
with columns.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And respect for the woman and shit like that.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I grew up in the house for the women, so
naturally we know how to treat women. It's kind of
in our blood and things like that.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So you'll be telling him make sure he go get tested.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, he has one girlfriend and things like that, so
you know, they got a pretty cool relationship.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
He's really vocal with me. He's let me know something
going on with him. But for the most part, they've
been locked in for a few years.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
So see, and you know why he's like that because
of you, Like you've been in this monogamous relationship for years,
and when kids see that, they kind of like to
take that type of behavior.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, I mean, we're losing a lot of that type
of behavior in today's society.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Were losing chivalry, losing a lot of things that men
once did when they came to women. But women also
play a part in a lot of that too. Is
everybody got a part in what's going on in society
and ship like that. I mean, but I was raised
a little bit different. I mean, like you know, women
are usually the backbone of the household, and like I
told you, I was raised with a group of women,
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so naturally I was raised as a protector and things
like that. So yeah, and so I had to protect
and fight for and fin for and you know, for
a lot of women in my life and ship like that.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
It was built for this.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
When when was the first time you met his girlfriend
in high school?
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I believe, and.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
I know I was.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, they went to the prom and all that they
got it going on love that.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Did you take him to the club for his first time?
Because like his daddy being Jim Jones, I've been.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Taking them to the club.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Should have been there.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
He's been sixteen and those moments he always remembered life.
But he's not. He's not that kid. I'll take him
to the club. He won't even he won't even ask me.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
You're like the other day he asked me, yo, we
want to go to the Chris Chris Brown after party Sunday.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I'm like, all right, we're gonna run up in this
like that. But that was the first time you ever Yeah,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Because he know he go with you. It's different, right,
It's different. Come on, dad, we outside.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah, so you're going to do Chris.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But you know what I'm looking at, like a lot
of things that are happening in the industry right now
and a lot of trouble and people like you've managed
to stay away from all of that. And I do
think part of that is being in like we haven't
heard know Jim Jones drama when it comes to women,
because you've been locked in. That's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
They locked it.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I'm very respectful to women, no matter what people may
see your thinking ship like that, you know, I mean,
like I give everybody I did respect.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Doing things like that. But I love my woman at home.
She's a great woman.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
She would me rather to die for a lot of years,
through a lot of ups and downs, through mistakes, through
my rights, through my rooms and shit like that, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I can't ask for much more.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I mean because we see all these guys that are
now like getting and you know, he did this and
he was this way, and you know, we see people
getting canceled, We see people's whole legacies getting destroyed. And
I will say, if somebody said something about you, I
wouldn't believe it. Yeah, I would be like Jim Jones.
I've never heard nobody say be.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Able to say nothing like that about the period and
those type of capacities in no type of room.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I stand on being a stand up man, And you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
For a lot of different things, I ain't perfect, you know,
I have my flaws, a lot of them, you know
what I mean. But when it comes to being a man,
I proud myself on that. I don't act like none
of these other individuals that we've come across in the game.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
I mean, I've had my shit be ignorant. I'm still
a bit well documented for the most part. I've grown
up a lot through the game. I've seen a.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Lot because how old were you when you first started.
I mean, think about that.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
You're like eighteen, nineteeneen years old.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Think about what we was doing it eighteen.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
It's that ninety six, ninety six we first started getting
the game.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
We as bad as hell at that age. And imagine
getting money at eighteen and nineteen years We just.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Graduated in ninety four, so it was like our little
spats with the street and shit like that, it's nothing
compared to our success in the industry. We've been kids
with fame and fortune since ninety since kids and things
like that, and we've had it all, lost it all,
had it all, lost it all. I've learned a lot
of my travels and things like that.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
But I'm I'm grateful to still be in a position
where I can make lots of money out of this
game and shit like that. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Of course, you got to figure it out when you
take your dips and shit like that, you got to
figure out how to reinvent yourself.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
And jump.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I can, but for the most part, I wouldn't want
to be nowhere else. It could be a lot worse,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Right exafinitely could And even if you if you think
about like things that you've gone through, even with y'all
didn't used to get along at all, and now you
guys have albums and projects together.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
That's my guy.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Y'all talk all the time. Ain't it crazy that miscommunication
can lead to one hundred?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
And it happens a lot. I've seen it happen a
lot in my lifetime.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
A lot of the people that also of my closer
friends with people that are run across on opposite sides.
And then you figure out you got so much in common,
and you know what I mean, how easy a conversation.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Could make sure work?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
You know now you'all get money together, super money.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's my dog. I got to stay away from me.
It's a little bit loose a time he be outside.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
We love, no man, no slander. You know, my wife.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Away from him. He's danger. Have you in some shape?
Speaker 1 (22:03):
He'd be like, how did this happen? He's always been
like that mind And I feel like, do they still
have hip hop?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Police, Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
They ain't like it used to be though, because remember
the hip hop police used to used to be. They
used to lock the block down. You couldn't even get
down the block to get in the club.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
They're still out there.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
It ain't like it used to be, though.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
I wouldn't say it ain't like it used to be.
They still doing the intelligence. They still know who's who
out there for certain people who come outside. They always
outside there. It's a funny thing, like you, it's not
how could I say this. It was a whole different
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time when the rap police started. Wasn't no I g
It wasn't none of that.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
We were running, ramping through the city in a whole
different capacity. And it wasn't just us.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
It was a bunch of us in pockets that would
getting a lot of shipload of money and having our
way out here. And that formed into what they call
a rap police because they didn't like young black dudes
getting money and having a way.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
When I did it, they had detail.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
I would come outside every day and they had somebody
that would follow me through the duration as long as
I was in New York City too, I went home.
I mean to the point that if I'm outside five
six in the morning. They start tapping on my car. Yeah,
we want to go home to but you.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Ain't ready to go home now?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
You want to stay out.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Right enough time. But now I see them. They still
do their thing.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
They still follow who who they want to follow, who
they want to follow, They still want on top of
who they need to be on top of, and things
like that.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
But I'm not outside like I used to be, so
it was good that they're not on top of your
calls at all.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
They got no reason to be on top of me.
I don't do anything anyway. I just get a couple
of dollars to stay out the way. That's that's the
main thing.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
And staying wrong Jones, wrong man. Yeah, and even with
your artists, I noticed that you've been doing things like
credit repair and making sure that they're good in that way.
So talk about that whole experience for yourself, because you know,
we've all been through a lot when it comes to
our credit, when it comes to our finances, when it
comes to even having health insurance.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
My experience is coming in the game. They don't teach
you nothing. They give you the money, they don't care
what you do with it. And it's not their business
to do so, and things like that, even though rightfully
they should hip a lot of us to the game.
Soon they seems get a lot of money on how
we could make money on top of money and things
like that. So as I got a position to start
helping artists and actually try to help them out with
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life along with the music. I mean, the music is
one aspect of what life is. Life probably make you
more money than just this music if you do it right.
So I try to put them in position to really
secure different things and just try to depend on the music.
You know, music is an expensive thing. So I can
help them get some credit and they can start getting
credit lines. They can figure out how to start using
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their money to invest in their own audustry and hopefully
turn over for them and things like that, or use
that money to invest in the business and maybe get
some real estate and maybe do something that can make
you some money on the side where you won't be
stressing thinking that music owes you something. I mean, like
these kids don't know that music is a very hard game.
It's even harder to get paid from it.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Yeah, you get paid how much for a stream? How
much if you have to say percentage wise, how much
of your money comes from music as opposed to other things.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
I'm better at other things.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
I'm better at other things.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Need to know that because you have incredible at music,
but I'm better at every other things. The music has
opened the doors for me to do all these other things.
And that's what these artists and coming up me to know.
Like there's one stepping stone. You gotta use that music
to get all the ancillary benefits you can from it,
so you can further who you are as a grown man.
Like they say, it's a young man's game that was
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back then. It's probably going to go for and things
like that, but you got to be small. Sooner or
later your light is going dim or your fire is
gonna burn out. That's just how the game go with.
Everybody has not promised a long career in this game.
It might be short winded. So in that short winded
time or that small amount of fifteen minutes, you guys,
you better get all you can out of it to
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prepare yourself so you can have a better life.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
And you still doing shows. I know you and ghost
Face that performing for us, But was there ever a
time that you I just want to be an executive.
I don't want to do music because music is a
whole nother beast, and there's a lot of people who
are our artists and capable of doing that and great
and have done and hit songs, but they like I
just kind of want to step back, Like I feel
like Yo Gotti has done that, like he's you know,
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made a lot of hit songs, but he wants to
more step back and be an executive because sometimes it's
like I'd rather just help other people get to what
they got to get to. Was there a time that
you ever felt like I would stop this?
Speaker 2 (26:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I mean, my brain works different than shit like that.
You got rulers and you got kings. Usually the kings
are the ones that stay in the front with their army.
The rulers are the ones that stay in the back
of the army.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Get that standing kings, rulers and kings.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Trying to tell you what you're talking about for these
artists that once you're outside on the front line as
a king, they choose to take the emperor rule the
world with stand in the back of the army so
they ain't got to deal with it.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I'm not that type of person, you know what I mean.
I'm the front line with the army at all times.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
You're going in going in charge. And not only that,
he's making a decision to reach back and grab the
younger ones and be like, hey, look, I'm gonna teach
you when you don't really have to. You just said
that music can your bread and butter. You're entrepreneur, so
that's where the money come from. But you still have
a passion for going to get the young ones and
being like, no.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
This is how you do it. When you're standing in
the back of the army, you can't see. It's what's
in front you.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Okay, I like that.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
There's a lot of different things to that is. I'm
weird at times, but yeah, you ask me something, that's
pretty much how I take it. So I don't like
talking about what other people do and what's their decision
makings for doing the things they do. I'm in a
great position. I like doing what I do and the
way I do it, I know nobody else does it.
It's no of an executive like me inside of this industry.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Period.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Well, since we're talking about kings, let's talk about queens too,
and let's talk about your queen. So you and Chrissy,
are you guys gonna do like more television? It feels
like Chrissy is off of that. I like to see
her pop out. I saw her birthday party. She looks amazing,
but it feels like she kind of don't even really
want to be doing none of that no more.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
She just I mean, she's a businesswoman.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
If an opportunity presents herself with it's worth it for
us to do it, we definitely gonna jump back into it.
Like we have a couple of people recently been reaching
out to us to do things with like me, her
and my mother and shit like that. And if those
opportunities present itself and it's worth it, then catches back
on the camera.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
We you know, ain't not wrong with the camera.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I feel like we need to see it. How do
you feel and both of you really and even Mama Jones,
how do y'all feel about Netflix putting Love and Hip
Hop back on from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
I don't even have no feelings love and hip hop anymore.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I mean, I know it was like a bad breakup
for you.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
I mean, it isn't really a bad breakup.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
It was a decision, a conturus decision that we made
to not compromise our dignity and no platform.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
And that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I mean, but people should be grateful that we were
able to create something, create something out of our mind,
just had nothing to do with nobody else.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
And that's what people don't understand is that love.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
And hip hop was hardly.
Speaker 3 (29:45):
So many families and so many artists and so many
people got money off of my back and nobody has
ever reached back and just to say give me a
high five, like, yo, bro, I appreciate that because it's
none of you. Nigga would have got a dollar in
reality TV if I didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
And and literally like you did that, Literally I did that.
They didn't called me in for that. I did that.
I made the call.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
You made that happen.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I want to do the show. Here's the name of
the show, premise to show. This is how we rocket,
this is what I want to do.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
And then they went from New York Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Wade, I'm not mad.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
I did something that can't be taken from you, yea,
no matter who got the money from me and all that.
At the end of the day, they can't say they
created that. No matter how many accolades they get. In
their heart, it's not this, it's mine.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
And I remember when that first happened, because the show
was originally about you, right, and then it turned into
a cast of people.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
They were like, this show wasn't even really originally about me.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
The show was originally about Christy and women dealing with
artists that were in the industry and how does it
feel to be that type of woman have to deal
with so much? And that came That was a lot
of me because I was there the old thing, you
know what I mean. But it really was about her.
She had lost the opportunity to do a show. I'm like, shit,
people have been calling me all the time. I will
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call us do that v H one and see if
they want to do it. And I called them like yo,
and they were like, yeah, we want to do it.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Come down.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
That was that.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
That's how it happened. But it was your idea to
have a cast instead.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Everything was what I did to tell her, your call Emily,
see if Emily want to be a part of it.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Was that all of them people here and picked and
even and nothing and Mona did nothing. Wrong her mortally.
We talk about that another time.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
But she came in at a position of management when
Andy had to go do something else and we were
in the office and she knowing what I created and
seeing everything that's going on in the business wise, and
her knowing I was so hot headed and soul moving
so fast as the time. She didn't hit me the
game like you need to sit down and really take
control and put all everything in your name for what
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you've created and shit like that. Instead she turned around
and took that power upon herself to put everything in
her name.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Wow, I don't know if that's not doing nothing wrong.
But I mean, business is business.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
But I don't really care about it. Your heard, Like
I told you, everybody, everybody gonna live with, they gotta
live with.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I'm cool with it.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
I'm just telling you all how all of how people
got in power and ship like that. And then I
had the opportunity to gain the power I wanted, but
at that time it wasn't worth.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
It for our peace and our dignity. Like it didn't.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
It didn't feel good to us, you know. So that
was a cont decision me and Chrissy May and we
had a slew of shows after that that all went
number one on the network because of conflict of interest
more like her Love and Hip Hop was hating because
they knew that we probably would start something that.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Died them totally down. So every time we had a show.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
We made it and number one had the most ratings,
and then next season we couldn't get it a reup.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Wow, show you how this ship is rigged?
Speaker 1 (33:04):
Well, listen, I want to say this. What I love
about the dynamic that Chrissy brings to the relationship is
that it really and don't be offend about it. I
really feel like she's the boss is in the relationship.
He said. But I like that like as a woman,
because it feels like nobody's really Jim Jones's boss but Chrissy.
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And that's what I feel like an ideal relationship should
be like.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
But that's what I love about it because she was
she was strong enough to be able to deal with
who I am and not take no nonsense and not
let me run over and do what I would do
to all the other females that I've came across with
my time and ship like that, you know what I mean.
So she's not standing for enoughing, she's not jacking nothing
from out of pocket. She's gonna put me in line,
you know what I mean. She's a family woman. She
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she's been there in my worst of times and she's
always been there to lift me up and I don't
know how she did it so many times, and things
like that, so you know.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
You know what too. I think sometimes guys don't understand, like,
as much as we're always supporting them and what they
have to do, sometimes it's hard for them to see
that they have to help us too, you know what
I'm saying. Like, I feel like a lot of times
we end up giving so much and being like you
got this, But a lot of times it takes a
long time for a man to see what they need
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to do for us.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I mean, we could argue that back and forth, men
like myself that do so much right to argue the
same thing.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
I mean, be at this shit all night.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
But I also think our needs be different too, like
the thing you guys needed, because women are supposed to
be nurturers, and I think sometimes a lot of that
is expected.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yes, absolutely, yes, a lot of that is expected, especially
for a man that works hard and things like that.
So certain things that are expected when get home. Certain
things that you do expect.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
A woman to do, but that's not meaning she has
to do it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
So every relationship has a different way as it runs,
and hopefully everybody can meet each other in the middle
and figure.
Speaker 1 (35:02):
They should out and get half of their needs, you know,
and get half they needs, at least.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Half of it because if she get fitty, you get fifty.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Because y'all really grew up together.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I mean, yes, we did, from youngsters past twenty years.
We definitely grew up together.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
That's a lot like because you know what in relationships,
they always people have said they think that like if
you get married, you should get like go back in
every three like a license, like when you get your
driver's license and do a reader. I've heard people say
you should do like a re up to reevaluate what
your relationship is and see if you like it, because
some people think things shouldn't last forever. But I feel
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like I could be with this.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
You got to reevaluate your relationship every three years, then
you don't have a relationship, you know what I mean.
If you're in a marriage and you feel like every
three years you got to reevaluate if you should get
your marriage license renewed or what do we do? Then
I don't think that's a wholesome marriage to be And
if you got to think about those type of aspects.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Some people don't believe in monogamy. Some people don't think
that you're supposed to be with one person. A lot
of people feel like monogamy isn't natural. Yeah, that's what
I feel like, that's what hookup culture is.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
And the relationship everybody relationship is different like that you heard,
like it just it just works like that.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Yeah, Now, I mean, look, I was gonna say, I
believe that I could be with somebody for the rest
of my life. But I also feel like timing is
a big thing.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Timing is a big thing. Your relationship takes a big
commitment and.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
A lot of heart, a lot of sidifics, a lot
of broken heart and nights like it's a lot to
go with the relationship. That sh it ain't easy at all, yes,
but it's worth it. It's worth it, you know what
I mean When you find yourself going through with draws
like oh shit, I ain't speak to like it's work
withdraw I mean, if you if you're with the person
you want to be with, You're going to figure it out. Oh,
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I don't care what you say. It's just like they
say about time, and you're gonna make time for.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
What you want absolutely, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Sometimes like my man would be like, I like to
miss you, like I know.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
He does.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
That's it. I like to miss you. But even though
we don't like to be a part, it's kind of
like it's nice sometimes to miss each other, if that
makes sense, you know, because sometimes you take it for granted,
and then it's nice to be like where where is
she at? You know, like where where is my man at?
And then you also get to a point in your
relationship where it's also not about sex, where you could
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just cuddle and be in the bed and be okay
with that.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
I mean yeah, I mean that's life if you if
you connected with that person like that, ain't we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Get to that though, We're gonna do it, definitely that,
But we give you a cooler moment.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Who is more likely to say not tonight.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
She is.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Never He's like, I work out every day and I've
always ready.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I need it.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
That's how it make you go to bed and sleep better. Definitely,
to knockout, definitely, the knockout, the knockout Knoutay, what's the
longest you've gone being celibate? Three years, four months and
counting or in the past.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
You're celibate now, so you're celibating.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
She's celebated three years and four months.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Wow, how does that work for you?
Speaker 1 (38:19):
Hell of question? It works? I mean I think like
maybe after the first eight to nine months, then it's like, okay,
I can do this, Like I can't watch sex scenes
and movies for a while. But now I'm at the
point where it's.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Like when you are you still work anymore? If you
take too long.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
No, it's like a bike. It's a muscle. You always
know how that part. It's a muscle. So what I
have a lot of questions. I don't know where to go. Okay, yeah,
but it's gonna like what what make you break your celibacy?
Is there a period of time or is it the
right person or marriage for sure? Marriage to I like that, okay,
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but no for sure the right person for sure? Are
you dating? I am not? So that makes it easy.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
You were just going three months and three years and
four months and you meet the right person and that
ship is weak. What happens?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
I mean, it's weak? Yeah, but I feel okay in
my opinion, like something to think about, Like you don't.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Want to come out to a bad batch, like that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah's time for this. I suppose like somebody it's better,
That's what I mean. Like, that's true. More like someone
you're gonna put up with if it's trash, absolutely true,
that's absolutely What if you ate a guy and he's like,
I'm not ready, I like that. I would say, okay,
and we're gonna still wait. I would love to meet
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a man like that. By the way, I just have
never encountered one like that. What if he was a virgin? Okay, yeah,
I don't know, question mark.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
That's kind of scary and today a sad.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Waiting for a marriage. Some people could see you wait
a virgin. If you meet a virgin that's waiting for marriage,
would I wait with him? Yes, yeah, I would. That's romantic.
I would wait with him. Also romantic today because the
Valentine's Day? Now quite what made you decide to be celibate?
Like what did something happen where you well, you know
(40:25):
how work in the field of HIV and AIDS. You're
not a tester and counselor. And when I started taking classes,
I just start learning a lot, Like right now, there's
a new strain of an STD out there that's you.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Skared yourself straight pretty much.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
Yeah. I think it was a combination of a bunch
of things, you know, Like I already was like, Okay,
I'm gonna take a break from just like men and dating,
and then it kind of like naturally happened. And then
when I looked up, it was like nine months, ten months,
and I was like I could keep going going. Yeah,
let's see how long we can a marathon?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Girl? What up?
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I'll commend you because I can't. I've got to touch
this bus. I can't go three years. Can you watch porn?
I mean, like I said, at one point, I couldn't
watch sex scene, So now I can, so I would assume, yeah,
I can watch, but I haven't had a reason too yet.
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What about wet dreams? No wet dreams yet? No, I
don't look like that, Jim. You've had wet dreams before
when you Yeah, but only when you were younger.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Yeah, Like yeah, why would I have a dream now?
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Why wouldn't you grown and have a wet dream, right.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
I mean, ain't that the reason you can't have I mean,
I don't know, I haven't I'm waiting for it.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Do you have dreams?
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (41:47):
I dream listen, I don't remember none of my dreams,
and I never wake up. You never wake up. Very
dream that I remember a dream. That I have dreams.
They say that we all do, but I barely ever
remember my dreams. Like it might be like once every
six months, I'll be like, oh I just had a dream. Wow.
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But maybe I don't sleep long enough because you know,
you got to get into that. I'll be waking up
out the dreams, Like, wait a minute, where's.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Like that?
Speaker 1 (42:16):
Do you ever have like recurring dreams? Because the one
that I used to have was that my teeth fallout.
Always have that dream. You wake up and you feel
like dream like that you hit the fly or something.
But I never hit the floor. I wake up first.
I have that dream that a lot. That all means something.
I've had that dream.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
Spooky talking, Now what kind of dream?
Speaker 1 (42:35):
So what kind of dreams do you have?
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Since you said wild dreams, like regular dreams. I have
dreams where's.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Came downstairs and it was the precint your mom's came
and got you. Then all of a sudden, it was
a bunch of niggas outside that you'd be dreaming.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, I never had that dream. I'll have times where,
like in the middle of the day, I'll remember my
dream and call one of my friends, like, oh my god,
guess what I dreaked about last night. That happens, it'd
be crazy ship that I dreamt about.
Speaker 3 (43:05):
Like, Yo, you was in my dream, and we were,
But it's all relative, like when you're going through it,
you like it's people in it that you.
Speaker 1 (43:10):
Know, like you were just you like it's family members.
Because I really don't be remembering none of my dreams,
and I want to so bad. I want to so
bad I do because we're going to get you some
dream counselors so you can't. You guys in the precinct,
that was the top of advice. This is the dream
the weirdest. Anyway, My point is you could still have
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a wet dream because you're dreaming about all of those
things that seem real.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
And you definitely would that would break your celibacy question.
You had a wet dream and you nutted on yourself
in real life?
Speaker 1 (43:45):
In real life is it over? I mean I feel
like I already had the experience in my dream, so
why I needed in real life it happened?
Speaker 2 (43:53):
But then is that yourself? Yeah? Yeah, like you were
you was you was doing something in.
Speaker 1 (44:01):
Your dream your technically I was not awake, so don't
all right? So okay, so you said she's more likely, Chris,
he's more likely to tell you know, has there ever
been a time that Jim Jones says no?
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (44:19):
And what would that reason be?
Speaker 2 (44:21):
Re tired?
Speaker 1 (44:22):
No, you have attitude. I knew it after argument. What
could make you have so much of an attitude that
you don't want to have?
Speaker 2 (44:30):
No, Sometimes you just gotta you gotta stand on world
up like what I'm Yeah, I'm not that easy be
mad and.
Speaker 1 (44:46):
Want, but you gotta stand. You got to stand stay
on my ground. Do you do you have rules like
we don't go to bed mad at each other? You
know how people be having a relationship rules.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Yeah, like that's pretty much like you know, like you
definitely trying not to go to bed mad at each
other and ship like that. I mean always some type
of form of physical contact on you in the bed,
So that kind of let you know that you're on
the same terms.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
It's a foot touch part of us, a foot touching,
whether it's.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
An arm touching or you know, we'd be mad to
we be like right to my foot, like it's supposed
to be cool after this bullshit. This is not an apology.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
I need.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Your wet drinks.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Relationship, relationship.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
You can have sex and then he still get it,
like I'm still mad at you can't think that it's over,
like still it's still Yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Has she ever been mad at to because you're another
too fast and she wasn't done?
Speaker 2 (45:42):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (45:43):
Because you will get an attitude for something. I mean,
that's it. It's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
I think we we we be good on be good
on that and not saying that I'm like Superman, but
I should. I mean, you're good. You're in a relationship,
so you you got to have a chance tomorrow. She
she knows the performance, so you know, I mean, like
you get you get it, you'll get another try to
let me you get to.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
Tell you know, and the worst is when you go
take a shower and then you come back and he
sleep already.
Speaker 3 (46:10):
Sometimes something you need to way around, but sometimes niggas
trying to get their ship off real quick too, So
it was like, yo, I gotta that.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
She's gonna be mad at me right there, but I'm tired.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I gotta go. I got things now. Who's going to
be the person to get up and make a sandwich?
Speaker 2 (46:27):
Sh niggas is dead after that? No, tell maybe get
up and get the baby wives is about it? Baby?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
You get the town?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah for me?
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Rather, you know, how do you think things have changed
from like twenty years ago to today? Do you think
that you could go like two or three times then
and now only once?
Speaker 2 (46:45):
Are like?
Speaker 1 (46:45):
You know how? Or is it still the same now
we're rocking?
Speaker 2 (46:49):
You showing about? Like now we're rocking. I'm going I'm
a grown ass man.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
I got a lot of energy, and he work out
a lot, so I'm assuming he has that.
Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, I got a lot of stamdina.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
That's what he's like. That's what I work out for.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Yeah. Shit, I'll be trying to stay intact. You better
stay intact, bro.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
I don't know what you got going on at your house,
but you better overperform at home.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
You do it.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
You heard you got to do it. I'm telling you
that if you don't overperform at home. Could it could
go south for you? And you mean, so make sure
that you're at home above all, boy, you better jump
off the ceiling.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Do what you need to do the ceiling and.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Think about this, Like twenty years ago with the music,
with the relationship, like your whole life kind of took
a turn. This is a good time for you, celebrating
like twenty years of your first album. Yes, twenty over,
twenty years of a relationship.
Speaker 3 (47:43):
Twenty years on my first album is crazy. Twenty years
of relationship is crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Being twenty one right now, I know this is like
a magical time.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
It's a good it's a good thing.
Speaker 3 (47:53):
I mean, like I said, to still be here twenty
years making money, nobody got to worry about nothing. Everybody
like shit, I'm not complaining. I'm blessed. I mean, I'm
in a good I'm at a good place in life
and shit like that. I'm happy to be able to say, up,
been in this game as a solo artist for twenty years.
I've known plenty hundreds, maybe thousands of artists that came
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in and went during the duration of time, and then
still here. Yes, I'm talking about niggas that went, Diamond,
you know what I mean, like some of your biggest
of your biggest and man, we're already yeah, they're out
of here right now and I have to say it
like that. But that's how the game goes.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
Now.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Listen, before you got here, we were talking about a topic,
all right, and this topic was about accidents, sex mishaps
in the bedroom. That lady got a butt plug stuff
up in her. But now this woman, at least you, David,
she's an Australian important star and she ended up in
the hospital and they actually have to do surgery to
(48:52):
try to remove the plug from the got it out, Yeah,
and they did get it out. They said that sh
only take five minutes, but the hospital ended up being
so busy she couldn't have the surgery right away. And
it was two days that she was in the hospital
and she put this all on TikTok.
Speaker 3 (49:07):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Have you ever had an injury from sex?
Speaker 3 (49:11):
You had to have at some point an injury you
always you always catch an injury during sex. Charlie full off,
the bag your shoulder, Charlie the horse all table ship.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
I don't know, but Charlie Horst counts as an injury.
I mean the right the right amount of pain at
that time.
Speaker 2 (49:30):
You can't get that threat work might hurt your performance.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
You got to try to work through the Charlie Horst too,
and not say nothing.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
It's a lot going on at that moment in time.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Have I ever had one, I'm definitely, I'm sure I have.
I actually one time I think I had a tampon
it and I didn't realize, like I think I was drunk,
and I actually ended up. I went to the doctor
because I was like, where's my tampon? But I must
have took it out while I was drunk and forgot,
and I went to the doctor for real, the emergency
room and they were like, there's nothing's nothing in there.
(50:09):
So that happened to me with a condom, but it
was in me for like five days. Yeah, Oh my gosh,
So how did you find out? You went to the
bathroom in the n I got to college and see
you were there. So when we were having sex afterwards,
I thought he slipped it off. So I actually went
off on him and I got upset and I was like,
(50:31):
looking I did what she did. I was looking through
the sheets and I was looking through the bed. I
had a mirror. I had everything, and then I was
like in my mind trying to find then you had
a mirror condom, But in my mind I just choked
it up to like he took it off and I
was like really upset about it. And then like three,
like maybe like two days later, I was like, what's
(50:52):
going on. Then I kind of ignored it, and then
like by like the third or fourth day, I was like, right,
I made an appointment and he was like, oh, there's
a condom, and you pulled it out, and I was like,
I feel so bad. I cussed this man out. Did
you apologize? I did apologize.
Speaker 2 (51:08):
I take the apology.
Speaker 1 (51:11):
He took it because we were.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
I mean, don't want way over, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Be good. What about you g a sex injury?
Speaker 2 (51:21):
I know you have.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
I don't think I've had a sex injury. I means
was hurt in one time because the dick was too big.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
But I remember when I was young. I was young,
I used to get the knee burns on the rugs
when I was I had.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
When you were younger, you're going to shower was born.
I haven't had a condom or a tampon, lost anything,
like that. But I have snatched a few condoms off.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
Now that's wow.
Speaker 1 (51:55):
You said snatched them off, like my pussy snatched the condom.
Speaker 2 (51:57):
Okay, oh, I thought you.
Speaker 1 (51:59):
No, no, I'm gonna snatch it off on purpose. But
there's a few times in my life where he's like, oh, ship,
the condiment had to pull it out. Okay. So yeah, yeah,
that's not an injury. It's not an injury. But that's
as close as I think the injury right injury when
you're get in the shower. You don't realize unil' get
in a shower and that.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Do I still got this car, that's not.
Speaker 1 (52:20):
That happened to me recently on his knee, still got
a scar on this knee. It happened to me. What
about somebody going up and coming down too hard and
bending your like you never had that happen.
Speaker 3 (52:29):
I've had that happen before. That's not it's not a
great feeling. That's not a great feeling. It's a few
things having sex. It's not a great feeling. Sometimes Slim
girls when I was younger, they that.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
It just wasn't right.
Speaker 1 (52:44):
It was just hurting the whole It's just like the
dick coming out by accident and going back in the
wrong way. That hurts us too, because that air gets trapped.
That hurts us, the air inside of us, that wrong
you know movement. What about like nipple play has.
Speaker 2 (53:02):
A do you like that well on my nipples? I
mean it's cool for a place could okay place good?
Oh there you go.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
See he's a lover like to but there's cancer. Cancer.
Man can tend to be a little sensitive even though
they they've had it on the outside, they got that crabshell,
but they tend to be a little sensitive and loving.
Is that true? I mean yeah, yeah, I mean yeah,
all right. He was raised by and around women his
(53:34):
whole life, so you know, but I love that. I
think that set the foundation too for you because something
you said earlier really stuck out. You said, I was
taught women were the backbone, and I feel like a
lot of men don't understand that. Yes, but that was
because of his upbringing being around women. And I saw
for saying that that is the true testament to your
relationship because you grew.
Speaker 2 (53:54):
Up like that, you know. Yeah, I mean I hope
people understand what I'm saying and things like that.
Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah, every Betty ship one that day. A man who
is really close with his mom absolutely honestly, or any
woman in his family. No, I think that's important to
see a guy that respects his mother. Well, okay, I
mean I like, I like interesting we've seen, we've seen
get interested, so I can imagine what we haven't seen
(54:23):
have improved.
Speaker 2 (54:24):
So we love that we on the other side.
Speaker 1 (54:26):
And that's a great thing. But it was definitely a journey.
But I do like guys who respect their moms. Like,
you know, I think you can tell a lot about
a guy by how he treats the women in his life,
particularly his mom. Like I love guys that are always
like I love my mom.
Speaker 3 (54:41):
I mean, a lot of us grew up with our moms,
and almost all we have we have the luxury of
having both parents at one time. So the mother above
all was somebody that we cherishing as we get older,
somebody we want to protect her. And the bond is
you can't break that at all, and things like that.
I'm a mom's only son, so I'm my oldest son,
so you could imagine the type of bomb we always had.
(55:03):
I mean, it was like we we would we were
partnership coming up. I mean like it was just me
and her like that.
Speaker 2 (55:11):
That was my road dog alone with my mother and
ship like that. A crazy You know, there's a lot
of kids out there.
Speaker 3 (55:18):
There's a lot of kids out there that have the
same relationship like a very type bomb with their moms
and ship like that due to the fact they have
they didn't have no fault for the grow up.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
But and things like that.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
And you know, Father's Day is while we're taping this
coming up, Yes my post, Yes, father, you want to
send me up.
Speaker 3 (55:36):
I want to meet some some asking for me something.
Give me some head, buy me some league, give me
some buy me some sneakers, buy me some cologne.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
I just want to meet some for Father's.
Speaker 1 (55:59):
I'm sure you're going to get everything you wish for
and more you deserve it.
Speaker 2 (56:02):
I will usually do it.
Speaker 1 (56:03):
Feels good about it.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yeah, I'm confident they're going to take care of me.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
They're going to take every day. It is fa this
day for you pretty much, all right, will Jim? Is
there anything that we missed that you want to make
sure that we touch And I know the single is
out right now and we're going to make.
Speaker 3 (56:19):
The video about to dropped to drop tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
So a glimpse it shut in in Miami for like
three days, we party for like three.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
I can love Miami. Yeah, that song is a party song.
It's a summer hot party vibe. As soon and literally
as soon as I turned it on, I was like, Okay, then, yes, absolutely,
it's a fun song.
Speaker 3 (56:41):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
I needed a fun record you need to get.
Speaker 1 (56:44):
We got that. It's a summer banger. So I can't
wait to see the video because I know y'all was
in Miami two turns.
Speaker 2 (56:49):
Yes, we definitely definitely had a good time.
Speaker 1 (56:52):
And I've definitely seen Christy in Miami too.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
You know, we love Miami, so she'd be.
Speaker 1 (56:56):
Having her girls trips and everything too. And you need
that Okay, yes, you need that time. Please, girls, don't
be the one girl bringing your man on the girls.
Don't be that one bringing your man on the girls.
(57:18):
Tip everybody else and you're like, oh, here he comes.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
No, I don't want to. I don't want to. I
don't want to be him. I used to be him.
I'm going everywhere were you all'll pull it up?
Speaker 1 (57:30):
Man, he come again. Don't pull up unless you right.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
They used to call me the fund police. I had.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
I you came and paid the whole bill for everybody.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Yeah, of course, tell my man to pull up. That
was my nickname, the fun Police. I grew out of
that though. Good for you.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
I grew out of that all right. But Jim, thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (57:52):
We're glad to make this for having me. Thank you
for we're not going viral.
Speaker 1 (58:00):
Positive way.
Speaker 2 (58:01):
I love positivity.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Yeah, I think you're gonna have a positive well. Mayna
will be here at some.
Speaker 2 (58:05):
Point, and he definitely going to get everything out of
Mayo that you need to go to.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
May is definitely due for a visit. I feel like
when when you said after Gym comes, he's coming.
Speaker 3 (58:17):
When you get here, you make sure you make sure
you tell you, make sure you tell him that I
told you all that harm of everybody knows.
Speaker 2 (58:25):
But Harlem is wayfighting in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1 (58:28):
I can't coast that at all, period, for real.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
I cannot definitely fly in Brooklyn. And the Bedstar is
the Halem of Brooklyn. That's what they call it. So
make sure you let him.
Speaker 1 (58:40):
Never heard nobody call it that.
Speaker 2 (58:42):
You sound like Maino. You never heard that. You turned
into Maino over here, but you just said I can't
crazy she turned into you. Both both of you crazy.
Speaker 1 (58:56):
And both of you have lived in Jersey longer than
you've ever lived at Harlem or Brooklyn. Everybody relaxed. This
is crazy, this is.
Speaker 2 (59:07):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (59:07):
Don't you live in Miami all right? Living moving and
new Miami. Everybody calm down.
Speaker 2 (59:15):
I don't know what just happened in Miami, Jersey or
you have an ally on your side. It's crazy, this
is this is crazy.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Harlem used to be live from Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (59:31):
Best.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
No, I'm from flatworsh Sorry to be clear, I live
in Best and I live in Best that longer than
Mano has ever lived in Best, Just to be clear.
But I don't know. But friend, I agree with you
that Harlem is there we go. I'm sorry, Angela Carlem
niggas versus Brooklyn niggas that I know, and I don't
(59:52):
like saying that word, but I would have to give
it to Harlem. I'm sorry, really yeah, just speaking from
from my experience.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Florida, you wouldn't even know.
Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Because it's because by default she like dreadlocked makings the neighborly.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
You heard from Florida, US they want to shake their dress.
Damn Brooklyn, you heard.
Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Like I don't even know what they have in Harlem.
I'm trying to think as far as what, like what
what is Harlem known for?
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Everything?
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
He said? They fly her.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Say something fashion. That's something y'all did.
Speaker 1 (01:00:28):
Y'all have you had a bony ali for a second, right,
but it went away real fast.
Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
I remember that Harlem is the only place you could
come to and you know what, is the only place
you can come to in the summertime and have the
time of your life.
Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
You can't go to no other burrow and do it like.
Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
We got Corney Island.
Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
That's your problem. You're talking about the Barclays and Corney Island.
Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
When we're doing crab legs, when we're doing Champagne, when
we got the d.
Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
J outside, there's hundreds of people outside. We just cool
and nothing going on on like that.
Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Doesn't sound all is when I live and I would
drive to New York people outside Originallylish originally, yes, and
me and Jim Jones is both from mast Yes.
Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Yes, my family is definitely from months. I got a
bunch of land in months. I don't even know what
the fun to do with it?
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Yeah, yeah, is it where the volcano is?
Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
No, it's all spread out throughout most rep All right, but.
Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
Like me and cute about going. Maybe you want to
come on that trip with us where you're going. We're
trying to we're putting it together now because he's talking
about doing some things there. Yeah, y'all need to figure
that out. It's not a lot of us.
Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Talking about got some man he could buy man, he
want to do something there. I got all that in
the world.
Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Thank you so much, and look all love to Harlem.
But you know it's all about Brooklyn. So you know
how Brooklyn we go.
Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
You get this because you're a female.
Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
But if Maino was here, we might have knocked almost
all over about this about this argument right here.
Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Hey, you want some of these because you know you
are chicken cup.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
Oh no, not the nerds.
Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
She set you up with that one. We'm from the
nerds up all day, so don't. All right, Well, thank
you so much for doing us. Thank you, Jim Jones.
All right, it's lip service.