Episode 462: God Level (Feat. Sauce Walka & Wynne)

Rappers, Sauce Walka and Wynne join the ladies of Lip Service this week! Sauce Walka explains why he's a God in the bedroom, Wynne opens up about being a white woman in hip hop, and much more. Sauce Walka even tells a story about his step mother catching him with 2 women...enjoy!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
What's up a lift Service.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Antela Yee, I'm Gg maguire.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
I am Jerry Clark, a k A D. Legendary Jerry.

Speaker 4 (00:08):
I'm when.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
That's walking.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's kind of like an honorary New Yorker.

Speaker 5 (00:17):
I am absolutely definitely all.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Right, Well, listen, this is your first time doing lift
service official?

Speaker 6 (00:23):
Officially officially.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Yeah, yeah, because we've been talking about doing an official
New York.

Speaker 5 (00:28):
Sit down, We've had a few appetizers and BT and
TA came.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Everybody wanted more.

Speaker 7 (00:34):
Yes, absolutely, I definitely got the reviews, and.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I just want to say them shoes hard as fun.
I keep staying that Luck's hard as fun.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Go to the whole outfit hard right, all right? And
when when you're from Portland, we.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Were just talking about this, Yeah, shout out to Portland.
You might be the first person I've ever met from
Portland for real. I know Nike the headquarters is out
there exactly.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
And yeah, it's beautiful out there, the Pacific Northwest. It's beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Oh, I love beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
You've been to Portland too.

Speaker 7 (01:09):
I'm the only person that hasn't been Portland, Oregon, Seattle.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
All that Settle Vancouver, beautiful. You're like, it's nice. You
gotta get out there.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
You like nature, Yeah, that's what I just about to say.
You gotta go and like doing the summer.

Speaker 7 (01:24):
Yeah, nature, trees, the air is fresh. It's completely opposite
New York.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
I like my lungs.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
You gotta go out there and appreciate that Pacific Northwest
because like you said, it's you.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Gotta spiritual, like for how long you think at least
three four that?

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, med around the water beak.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
You gotta give it like a week to to like
really feel it.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
To really like let my lungs clear out and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
You different when you come to New York. We do.
It's tough.

Speaker 8 (02:00):
I can't lie. You land in Portland and it's like
your nostrils are twice aside.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
You can breathe so clearly.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
You can come here breathing some glizzies, you know what?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
And yo, And I've been coming here for years and
even like even still like I come here. I'm like, man,
why am I sneeze? Like you come down south? You
got the pollen and all that, but you come here
and I'm like, damn why And I'm like I said,
I've had an office here for years. It's still man,
it's pollute, y'all.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
Your hair is different here from Houston.

Speaker 7 (02:32):
I think I'm kind of like used to the polluted
air and stuff, like I'm used to like humidity and
like thick air. We had a ship channel in my city,
just so it's like a lot of smug and.

Speaker 5 (02:42):
Stuff come from.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I just saw some the other day on social media
that said Houston was the dirtiest city and that it
fucked me up. Really, I come't believe it. Did you
see this ship? It said Houston was the dirtiest city
in America?

Speaker 5 (02:55):
Dirty.

Speaker 7 (02:57):
I don't know that dirty like air Quali, because I
was about to say, well, yeah, but you know now
what he's saying that.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
I just saw.

Speaker 6 (03:09):
This was in the last two weeks, if you combined.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
I've never heard that before.

Speaker 7 (03:13):
But I can understand where the theory comes from if
it is true, because like I just said, we have
a ship channel channel, want a lot of factories. We
have a lot of factories, a lot of ship channel refinements,
and they send all.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Of that gas and they said, hone your cockerroaches.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah, it's a huge number one.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
I would never have done that about polishing living conditions, infrastructure,
resident satisfaction.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, it was like a whole combinations.

Speaker 7 (03:41):
Yeah that that that that sounds like the people in
Texas telling y'all to get out because they tied everybody.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Moving said that.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
He means himself.

Speaker 7 (03:52):
I'm not saying that I want more people to come
to Texas. I love what's happening right now. It makes
us make more money, the economy increases.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Me and g we know about it. We're saying that
lineable we four.

Speaker 7 (04:02):
That's what everybody come fully, everybody Textas is saying right now,
because well they don't for the Texans that don't want
people to move in.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Like yeah, I mean for tax purposes, everybody wants to
live there, and then I think quality of life. I
would have never thought this, though, because every time I
gone to Houston. I'm from New York, so you know
New York is we're known for being dirty.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
It's just like, that's why that was like the weirdest thing.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
What you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
You could have never.

Speaker 7 (04:34):
And piles of trash, it's rats everywhere, it's drugs on
the ground.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Everywhere you go to Houston.

Speaker 7 (04:39):
You're going to see some cowboys, horses and clean roads.
That if they have sense on the everywhere that says,
don't mix with Texas.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
You literally you go to jail.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
And how is it the dirty?

Speaker 1 (04:51):
That's why I want to go to the rodeo. One
year I went, I've been to the rodeo. I want
to go to that so bad. I how you like it?

Speaker 9 (04:58):
I had a good time? Yeah, yeah, it was different experience.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Did you see the perform Cardi B?

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (05:04):
All right?

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Now being from Portland, let's talk about some things. Okay,
because she has a song called rug burn.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Yeah, ship, I can only imagine what that's right? That
only needs one thing.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
You know, if you ever had a rug burn, I
need you to take a drink a ship.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
You've never been on.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
The rug on your knees heading a doggie style and
burn your knees.

Speaker 5 (05:32):
I'm a professional.

Speaker 1 (05:34):
Okay, You've definitely had rug burn on my knees.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Yeah, I'm a professional.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
What does that entail?

Speaker 7 (05:39):
Like, I'm very skilled at what I do. Let's less injuries,
no injuries, no failures. I'm like a like a perfect
athlete in the bedroom.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
That's impossible. You've never had a bedroom injury? No, you
never had somebody go up and come down to her
and then bend it.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
I'm strong my body. I think I'm built for this,
for it, so I can say.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
There's no such thing as I feel. I can't believe
that because I can't believe you've never had a bedroom injury,
you've never been in the shower and.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Sleep like Charlie Horse where you like.

Speaker 7 (06:11):
Oh, I mean it's different for me than other people.
I felt the career off of my sexual experiences. I've
built a legacy off of the way.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
That nigga sound. I'm a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 5 (06:25):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I play, But when you were younger, there has to
be a learning curve.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
No, I was, I'm like a phenom, like you know,
like a kid.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
You came out like a kid that.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
Just knows how to play the piano at high percussions.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Like typer woods coming up through.

Speaker 5 (06:40):
Yeah, like a child hitting three hundred yards Like I'm like.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Looking at a prodigy like I was.

Speaker 5 (06:47):
My experiences of like getting caught with girls.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
So I was probably like between the ages like twelve
to thirteen is my dad walked in the west actually
my step mother, my step mother walked in the room.
I had two girls in the bed, sleep with me.
There was fifteen and I was only like thirteen.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Oh my god, I just it's like, no, this is
at the age of twenty.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
You jump off to poor Gerlin.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
But you know, and it's interesting to me because I
feel like you're you've been very transparent about like what
it was like for you growing up.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
But your stepmother walked in on you.

Speaker 5 (07:21):
Yeah, that's crazy, it's.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
Not so what did she say?

Speaker 5 (07:25):
She was like, oh my god, Junior. Then she called
my dadd name, She's what the fuck's here with? Girls
are just from my daddy comes anything or y'all.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Just was in the bed. I mean there was actions happening.

Speaker 5 (07:38):
Yeah, there was.

Speaker 7 (07:39):
It was my sister's older than me. So the two
girls was like my sister's friends.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 7 (07:44):
So you know how like you know what I mean,
that's supposed to be there with my sister. They you
know what I mean. Well, but one of the girls
was like she is old enough to be my sister
friend and our friend like in the middle, you know,
it's just young wild. I was it man, some from Texas,
you know everything big in Texas were running fast jump

(08:06):
training horses and ship like you know what I mean I.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Said this on the last show with you and last
episode with y And at what point and what age
did you know you was a real p g G
puss It go get.

Speaker 5 (08:19):
Her, uh Like I said, for me, it was young
for me like I've always.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Been no, no, no, not not that OTD not not
like when you was a real puss it go getter
for me.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Like I don't know, it's all you know, I'll say this.

Speaker 7 (08:39):
I went I went to a prom when I was
when I was like an eighth grader. When I was
an eighth grader senior, my Mama's soul on everything I love.
When I was in the eighth grade going to the
ninth grade, I went to a senior poem in Sipher
High School.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Senior. I wouldn't even I wouldn't even do that.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Junior.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Yeah, who was that saying one of the most popular.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Now the senior was one of the most popular girls
at the school. I'm poppular. Like is different, Like we
were just different, like.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
You said, we ain't about the actual But I was
a senior junior, I know.

Speaker 7 (09:13):
Let me say yeah, yeah, going to ninth grade, going
to ninth grade, like the summer like me going to
ninth grade. I'll say this, I did fail seventh grade.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
And I was in I was.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
You're still thirteen fourteen.

Speaker 7 (09:27):
I number thirteen years old, bro, I'm not supposed to
be in a motherfucker. Yeah, and I met why I
met the girl that was at the Labor Day Classic.
Anybody from Texas, you know the Labor they class to
get Okay, then this is a fucking factual story. I'm
I'm thirteen, fourteens or whatever age I was. We at
the Labor They Classic football game.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
This was at TSU and all I.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
Think Louise and whoever whoever louis HBCU.

Speaker 7 (09:50):
Yes, a big, big Ordea in the HBCU and it
used to be held at the Astronaut. We used to
go there to fight. All the schools used to go
there to go fight at the ticket.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
So so what you said and these older brons was true.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yeah. Man, she's seeing my hands and.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
Why you look at me like they was true.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
I was chosen early, That's like I said, I chosen
sometimes I seventeen. By the time I'm seventeen in nineteen
and stuff, we driving cars and houses off of being handsome,
Like my life is going somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
But all right, so DJ didn't when as the women
in the room, when you were in high school, I couldn't, like,
I couldn't fathom a younger because you know, when you
were in high school, you dating guys.

Speaker 9 (10:29):
That's like I was in high school dating guys that
I didn't have no business dating.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
I was about to sit and see the other way around. See,
we were the girls in high school. Was dating twenties?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah I was.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
I was.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
He was choosing him.

Speaker 9 (10:43):
In lexuses and I was, Yeah, I was getting picked up,
true differently.

Speaker 5 (10:47):
Only the chosen few.

Speaker 7 (10:48):
It's very much more accessible for beautiful women. But or whatever,
because so.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
What are y'all saying it? Is it a problem? Because
like you just said, I know when I was in
high school, we couldn't compete with the dudes in twenty
four to twenty five days and eleven graded. So is
it a problem now because of his ship it was?

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I just want to say, that's creepy too. Like I
first of all, I remember being in high school and
this girl that used to drive her brother used to
drive us to school, and one Valentine's Day he gave
me like a gift, and he was and I was like,
this is disgusting, and he used to wear a suit
and I felt so young to like have somebody that

(11:24):
much old and he was probably like twenty two or something,
but I was like, yes, gross, because when I was
in high school, I want to date other high schoolers
or at least somebody that's like just graduated.

Speaker 7 (11:33):
Yeah, but when we grew up, there was like a
notch on your belt that was like a that was
like achievement to be able to talk to a girl.
That's why older in New York, you talking to a
girl that already got a driver's license and you don't
have you won't got a license. It's just you know, yes, whatever, Yeah, listen,
I for a girl that is creepy as like the
other way around.

Speaker 5 (11:53):
That shit is creepy like.

Speaker 6 (11:56):
High school girl period, and.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
You don't think it's creepy both ways both ways. I
mean looking at it, I'm looking at.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
Twenty two man.

Speaker 7 (12:05):
Well yeah, we're looking at the world where everybody wants
to be equal.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
But it's sorry, I feel like it's different for I
think it's different.

Speaker 9 (12:13):
At fifteen, I had no, no.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
No way I should have been dealing with twenty two.

Speaker 9 (12:19):
It was twenty two twenty three when I was fifteen,
and it was more than one actually, and they.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Was coming to the school picking you up.

Speaker 9 (12:27):
That's I'm sorry, money, dropping me off at the hair salon,
taking me shopping, buying me shit.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
And then I'm sure when you.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Was that age, you wasn't thinking about no high school.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
I understand.

Speaker 7 (12:36):
I understand the difference in the dynamic of it, especially
growing up in the ghetto and stuff like that. And
when you you equate the poverty, Okay, for a mother
at home that's looking at her daughter or knowing that
her daughter has all the men around and the poverty
struck and stuff like that, of course she doesn't want
to support it and not in agreeence with it. But
at the end of the day, sometimes they may turn

(12:58):
the shoulder to it and act like they don't exist,
because they probably do the same my mom.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Found out when I got pregnant.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
Okay, before you was fifteen sixteen, See Okay, So what
I'm saying before a man, though a young man, is
able to bring an older woman into the household, that
mother is going to kind of create a relationship with
that woman.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
More or less they feel.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Like I feel like my mom would be like this
get away from myself, like, why is this eighteen year
old attracted to my fourteen year old son?

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Did you like mentally son? You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (13:30):
Quarterback on the team. He's getting scholarships some colleges. He's
only in the tenth grade. You don't think all the way?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Do you know about so let me ask you this,
but did you ever get anybody pregnant at that young age?

Speaker 5 (13:39):
I did not have children to I became a millionaire.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
Okay, and but nobody got I'm not saying you had children,
but did anybody get pregnant like you had?

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Me?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Scares?

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Maybe one?

Speaker 3 (13:49):
Honestly, no abortion tab and all that shit.

Speaker 7 (13:52):
I probably had one a boys when I was like
seventeen or something like. No, I was there was very
very understanding where I wanted to go in life. And
I understand, I respect bringing a child.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
There's a lot of cash on you know.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
When did everybody here realize what they were going to
do in life? You know, let's have what you win?
When did you realize?

Speaker 8 (14:11):
Young as fuck? I was twelve and I was like,
I'm going to be a rapper.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
Yeah twelve in Portland.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
Well, I was in a suburb.

Speaker 8 (14:20):
Yeah, and I told my parents and they were you know,
they were cool, they were supportive, but they were like,
ok whatever.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
Hell, you know, I'm twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Okay, yeah, down, okay. And then you recently, just when
did you do your deal?

Speaker 8 (14:32):
Uh? Well I have So I have a deal with
Genius Destro that I did like early last year.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You see Mark in the building. You
know what I'm saying. Side, don't be outside like that.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
You know, he was like Rob outside with me all week.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Now what about you, legendary Jerry, When did you realize, like.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
I had family that was in the music business. So
I used to go to the Jack the Rapper conventions,
the be are he convinces my uncle, so he used to,
you know, take me in. So I saw all the
glamor and the glitz of the music business. I wanted
to be in it. And he told me one day,
he said, hey, you got a gift that only five
to ten percent of people have. You could either be

(15:13):
a pimp, a preacher, a politician of going to this
music business.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
I know that gift.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
And sauce. You got it too, Yes, So I came
into the music business. But backing up to answer your question,
I was working at Delta Airlines and I was interning
the two labels. And that's when I say it hit me.
I said, this is where I'm supposed to be. And
I was young, I was like nineteen. This was in
the early nineties. So I was, like I said, again,

(15:45):
I was interning at two level. This was back you
weren't getting paid.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
The intern right, right job.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
But I knew I had that gift sauce, that gift
that we both got. Actually you know what I mean.
I don't know, but I know when you get that gift, ye,
And I knew that. He said, when you walk in
a room and you got this certain gift of gab
and people are you know, they're attracted to you and
they want to know who you are and what you do.
I said, okay, So all those other things I named
outside the music business. The music business chose me at

(16:14):
a young age. So I'll say eighteen nineteen.

Speaker 9 (16:17):
What about So at the age of four, my mother
put me into ballet and technical dance, and I actually
my dream was to be like a background dancer, like
for like like you know, tours and stage and like
be on award shows and stuff like that. And I
also wanted to be a teacher, and I ended up
being a professional dancer.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Just you know, dancer, you're a professional professional what she does.
And I also ended up being a teacher.

Speaker 9 (16:48):
When I retired from Egic City, I opened up a
pole fitness class in a studio and I taught classes
for a few years.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Even after that, when I'm in here, I.

Speaker 9 (16:56):
Continue to teach classes here and then Philadelphia.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Thank you everybody.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
It was like it was like nobody was doing it.
Everybody was talking about it.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Yeah, you were the first I think.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
I was that came out of the club to that.

Speaker 9 (17:09):
And then as far as like you know, still in entertainment,
because this is a form of entertainment. Of course, we
have to thank you Angela for bringing me into this
podcast life.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Ten years later, there was ten years. Yeah, ten years later,
we're still going strong.

Speaker 9 (17:25):
And you know, I always give my girl her flowers
to let her know how much I appreciate the opportunity
and just all of the levels.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
That years of service to be clear.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
And y'all got a Dopez chemistry too, though.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Listen, I love I love you. You know, I married
through her ex and that again, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 (17:44):
She when I first started dating my ex. They were
like best friends and we met in Miami one day
and just clicked and with fourteen years later, now, yeah,
everybody knows that to say his name, that's what about.
He wants us to talk about him so bad.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
But when did you realize that this was like your calling?
Because I'm gonna be honest, like, aside from music and
your freestyles be amazing, Like your music is amazing, like
honestly ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
I'm gonna keep it real.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
But your personality too is a whole next level situation.

Speaker 1 (18:22):
But when did you realize this was your calling?

Speaker 7 (18:27):
From when it was the first time that I was
able to help understanding of my consciousness, I guess I've
been rapping since I was three years old. I've been
like rapping, like doing the action of rapping. I recorded
my first song in a recording studio with a microphone
and headphones on my head with an engineer in nineteen
ninety six. I was six years OLDE wow, Like when

(18:49):
I be saying like I'm a pheno and shit, like
I don't be just talking and like I got the history,
like my mom and my dad still have cassette tapes
for me from nineteen ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight.
That's amazing freestyling as a child over old missy Elliot
beats and.

Speaker 5 (19:05):
Ship like that.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
What were you talking about at that time?

Speaker 5 (19:09):
I mean, I'm from Houston.

Speaker 7 (19:10):
We have a huge culture abroad to rap about the cars,
the swangers, the.

Speaker 5 (19:15):
Rims, sick kids stuff.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Yeah, my god, that's so funny.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
That's c I'm gonna come down. I'm gonna come through.
I'ma I'm gonna hop out the slab like a kangaroo
like you know, So.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
What did you know you could monetize this ship? When
you was like, I'm really good this ship? Why could
make money doing this?

Speaker 7 (19:32):
I grew up on the internet too. Again, I'm boring
nineteen ninety I'm a nineties baby.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
I'm growing y'all graduate high school, So I.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
Grew up with I grew up watching the conversion and
the change of AOL Internet wire connection.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
To Wi Fi broadband.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
You know, I'm saying I've seen phones go from cores
to to FaceTime when that was like in fathomable in
the so when it came to the music aspect of
knowing how to monetize and utilize the Internet, I Google
I had videos on YouTube the year that it came out,

(20:15):
the exact year that YouTube was the delivered the discovery
to the world, and we had in.

Speaker 5 (20:21):
Our house at the house, I remember I was making videos.

Speaker 7 (20:24):
I was like I think it was like two thousand
and four or something that was four or five.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
I was like fourteen fifteen.

Speaker 7 (20:30):
And that's the thing that's like kind of ironic about
my age. I'm born in nineteen ninety so, and then
every year that it is, it's like the same year
that I am. In nineteen ninety one, I was one,
ninety two, I was two. So in two thousand and four,
I was fourteen. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
You can't say your Yeah, I'm a cancer.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
So like I grew birthday.

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Yeah, my birthday just passed. It just turned thirty four.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Happy birthday lady.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yeah. So I drink to that I was making videos.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Been anything fun to drink.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
I've been basically like documented drink my.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
Career and my music and my journey on the internet
on YouTube, my entire life. So I always and I
always got the engagement, I always got the reaction. I
always got the response. Like I've been famous in my
city for like.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Yeah, I was Houston. Love you. Houston is also the
type of place where you could really.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Be lit like no, I never know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
And make a lot of money and live good within
your city. I feel like at any place, Houston is
that place.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Absolutely, that's that place.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
It's our own world, it's our own video games.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Love it.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
You never have to leave it. In all honesty, like
you never have to leave.

Speaker 7 (21:38):
Takes us to get probably about ninety five of the
experiences of life that you want. You can really do
majority of all of that right there.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
Did all the OG's there today embrace you. The og
I mean, because you know Houston has a long line
of rappers. They embrace you.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
They love me okay, early on always the nigga got
mad personality, And to be honest with you, the blessing
of my life and my relationship with them is that
I didn't come out like how could I say this?
I came out on my own wave, in my own direction.

(22:12):
I didn't ride anybody's hotel. But at the same time,
I also wasn't afraid to challenge the ogs and the
older catt that came out before me as far as
the responsibilities that they should uphold by having the torch
by holding the keys to the gate to the city
and the opportunities and the relationships with platforms such as
this one and others. It was a period of time
where that was being with hell from a lot of

(22:34):
the younger artists, the young producers, the managers, people just
trying to create, you know, the music industry within Houston.
And I kind of came out like a night and
Shine and all my type shit. And you know, I
wasn't against the old the legends, but you know, I
just had an opinion that I was very strong about that.
They grew to understand and love me for having that
opinion because the end result was making the city a

(22:57):
better Place's.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Dope, that's really dope and listen.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
And when with all of that being said, what was
that hip hop scene like in Portland?

Speaker 4 (23:04):
The hip hop scene is dope in Portland. It's been
coming up.

Speaker 8 (23:06):
You know. I think the cities had a long complicated
history with hip hop because it's such a white city.
So you know, there was a there were a couple
of meetings that were happening back in like the early
twenty tens just to like you know, between like the
OG's and the city and the mayor and the police
department just to like they were shutting down shows. There
weren't any venues like under twenty one where they would
like hip hop play.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Wow, that's crazy, we like mainstream artists. Who's in Portland
is from Portland?

Speaker 4 (23:32):
You said, who is Amine?

Speaker 3 (23:34):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (23:34):
Okay, yeah that record Caroline? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know
he's dope he's from Portland.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
But that's it. Yeah, I mean I was.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm literally sit here thinking like, who's from Portland.

Speaker 8 (23:43):
Yeah, there win a lot of that's broken in, which
is crazy because there's literally the fucking Nike headquarters.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah, it's like I remember everybody, they.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Gotta have it at Nike. They're like, man, I got
to move to Portland.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
No, it's mad creative out there.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
And that's why I think, like, you know, once shout
out to djail you want a Star Child, DJ Cliff,
like they were meeting with the city to make it happen.
And I think since then there's been a much more
positive relationship like that. I think like most cities, you know,
there's like a little bit of a crabs and a
barrel mentality, but especially in the last like really since
COVID I've seen people come together a lot more and like.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
You said, we have Nike, so but they're mad creative.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
But what about you, like in this hip hop world
being a white woman, how has that been?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
It's cool?

Speaker 8 (24:25):
I mean I kind of tend to like mind my business,
and I think people like people in hip hop, like
they know when you're being authentic, they know when you're
being real, and they can tell when you've put in
the work. And I think my talent, my skill kind
of speaks for itself. And I'm not someone who's like
looking for a lot of attention. So I think people
have tended to tended to rock with me. And if
they don't, I get it. You know, I'm not looking.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
To be like yo, like fuck with me. I don't
have that kind of chip on my shoulder.

Speaker 9 (24:50):
So but in this industry, people respect it real they
respected So if you come in that way, then don't
got no choice but the.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
Fuck with you.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Facts.

Speaker 8 (24:58):
I came up like kind of in the ciphers and
like competing in ciphers from the time I was like
fourteen fifteen, so I built like kind of my uh
my resume for lack of a better word, as being
like an mc. So when I started to really pop
up on the scene when I was eighteen nineteen, it.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Was like, okay, like she can really rap, she's really like.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
That was just so different than anything else too, like
you being able to First of all, I loved your
freestyles like next level, but and for you too, like
being able to freestyle, that's a whole other like unlocked
level of talent.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, because you.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Could be a great artist, but when it's often don't
hit different.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah and sat That's what I want to say when
I when I listen to your freestyles, you know, okay, yeah,
I'm old school in the way, but your word play
is what you know what I mean, because it'd be
certain shit. I'd be like, oh this slick get that
slick as word because you know, as you know, when
you're in a scipher a freestyle, you.

Speaker 4 (25:51):
Need those you need those faces.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
No. But when I and look like I said, I'm
old school, but when I hear I'm like, Okay, he
got he gotta, he gotta, he got he got some
player type world play. And that's what you know that
brings that gap, that bringes that gap from somebody with
me at the O G with the yeah because I'm like, Okay,
this one. I'm like, ok this Onuck World play, you

(26:14):
know what I mean, Because you know, from the South,
y'all New York cast man hate. No, I don't want
to put I'm sorry, but okay, I'm just saying New
York has been anything anything that wasn't from New York,
you know, in the industry. I remember when our cast,
Goodie Mob and all that, but they hated on the
South so bad. I remember those days y'all used to

(26:35):
hate on us bad.

Speaker 7 (26:37):
Our cast is, especially Andre three thousand was one of
the greatest lyricists.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
It's funny to me being.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
From New York because I feel like growing up I
listened to whatever different. Yeah, and I definitely feel like
even on the West Coast, like that was a big
time for us. I remember the first ever issue of
by magazine, Snoop Dog was on the cover, you know
what I mean. So I never looked at it like that,
but I could see, you know, this is documentary about

(27:06):
the mixtape culture. And I always looked at it because
one of my friends will telling me she's she's not
from New York, and she was like, you know, I
like the documentary, but what about every other place where
there was mixing. I feel like it was New York
and then DJ Drama and don K and I was like,
didn't mixtapes really start in New York?

Speaker 1 (27:22):
But then I was like, maybe they didn't know they did.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
They did.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 7 (27:26):
At the end of the day, I don't want to twisted.
Rap started in New York period. Everything about rap for
the as far as the the basic blueprint of what
you are.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
Doing now, it's just like playing basketball.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
Hip hop culture start may come and add a move,
you may add a defensive strategy, whatever that makes you indifferent,
but the basic game of basketball is being played was
created in New York, which is hip hop.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Because it's hard for me being from here, I only
see it from this lens, so like I see everything
like from a New York lens of thing. So I'm like, well,
maybe I'm wrong. Was there a mixtapes going on in
other cities?

Speaker 5 (28:01):
Because going out, Yeah, it mixed. It's going to fit
everywhere in the world.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Atlanta and the South. You're running this bitch for twenty
five plus.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
Yeah, for sure. The Ties, the TI turn, I'm never
going against that. Ties have turned, like the South runs
hip hop for the last twenty years, twenty five years,
like you said, to the points of where it's even
it even influences East Coast artists to come to the
South and get on that sound, get around those type

(28:35):
of artists, utilize those artists platforms, and the just the
sonic waves that we create.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
But again, what matters.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
The most too true mcas and too true enthusiasts of
hip hop is the rarest urraarrist form of hip hop,
which is lyricism, which is being able to go into
a cipher and perform, whether it's a beat plan or
it's not a beat playing over somebody beat boxing, and
then and being able to say punchlines, metaphors and and

(29:03):
analogies and things that really makes sense and make a
person think, you know, so, the word having the ability
to do that is the most said after thing in
hip hop outside of like the status quo of selling
the records, of selling records and stuff like that, which

(29:23):
time has shown that even that is a watery staple
to stand on, because you can be a multi platinum
selling artist one year and nobody give a damn about
you in the next two.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, we didn't see that.

Speaker 8 (29:38):
Tell you can always get it back. You know, you
can get up on a radio do a freestyle. People
start paying attention again if it is.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
It's not easy, though, Now you got.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Your word. I gotta got about that. I gotta see
you got you got the confidence. I already you got
your confidence.

Speaker 5 (29:59):
Well, one of the best ever.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
To do this, and I can't. I can't to not
a I mean that for real.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
I appreciate the serious.

Speaker 3 (30:07):
Business, all right.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
So this is lip service. So I do have some questions.
Y'all know where y'all at.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
This is a little game we have called scenario. I'm
gonna put you on. In the scenario, you tell us
how you will handle it.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
All right, So.

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Here's the scenario. Let's just say you're going on a date.

Speaker 6 (30:21):
You're paying.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Interesting, okay, when you've never paid for a date.

Speaker 8 (30:25):
I remember, like paid completely for a day. I split
it like I'm a modern woman.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
Fifty fifty question.

Speaker 10 (30:34):
All right.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Let's just say there's a date and you're taking this
woman out and then she is like, oh, two of
my homegirls want to join us too, Is that okay
with you? And then not only do they join you, guys,
but they also are all ordering shots of nineteen forty two,
lobster dige and things like that. All right, how do
you handle that?

Speaker 5 (30:57):
I'm having sim.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
That's my mother.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
But she said, you don't know that for a fact.

Speaker 7 (31:06):
You look like, look, look, yes, that way yourself for
a fact, I am I'm not going.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
If I'm not, it's for sure.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
But now you don't even know.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
She's like, hey, they're about to come meet us.

Speaker 5 (31:17):
And when they come, and when they right jokes, the
right conversation.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
The right charm. What if you're not attracted to.

Speaker 7 (31:25):
Them, then I'm leaving? Or this is just me being honest.
You want to ask you a question, I'm gonna give
you an honest answer. I'm gonna tell my lady friend,
I'm not going to be financially responsible for them. You go,
that's what that's that's let me tell you all because
women in the world ask for what honesty.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
Women hate men that do what live.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
So don't be man when you findly meet a man
that's not going to lie to you about what.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Let me tell you somebody this new generation, let me
tell you these the most big and it says you
meet him in twenty four hours asking for money. The
next day motherfuckers. I didn't never seen you. Man, this
is the most big and.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
Is that That's fine? They can ask me for what.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
I'm gonna ask for money too.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
I'm just saying, look, look, let me just say something.
Not all but a lot of women you meet now
this generation is different, or I should say the days
that the times are different. Within twenty four forty eight hours,
they asked for something, ask for some bread.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Is that you what they're asking for bread? I mean,
I mean, but I mean.

Speaker 9 (32:28):
What has been what has been your experience? They need tires?

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Well, let me tell you one one thing about me.
When I go out, I'm I'm I'm gonna have fun.
I don't care who I'm but I'm gonna spend some bread.
We go, drink, we go eat. Good all this. I
ain't tripping all of this, but I've been noticing in
in my dating life. Like I said, I was divorced
and I was in another long term relationship. But in
the past year or so. Man, when I tell you,

(32:55):
within twenty four forty eight hours they ask for some bread,
I'm like the baby girl.

Speaker 9 (32:59):
Are you no?

Speaker 3 (33:04):
I'm telling you need them? Go out sauce? And then
twenty four hours later, Man, my, my Georgia power Bill.
I'm behind my phone about to.

Speaker 8 (33:12):
Get Are not your problems?

Speaker 9 (33:17):
You had those problems when I met you, miss, and
I'm talking you can't.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Are you attracting that energy?

Speaker 3 (33:24):
And that's why I know it's interesting you said that
because I told my therapist that I was like, I'm
wondering what am I putting out to attract that?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (33:32):
I'm being honest with you. I don't believe it's no
energy you're putting out. That's the energy of the universe
that we're looking.

Speaker 6 (33:38):
At this list.

Speaker 7 (33:43):
Listen, there are some women out there, A lot are
some independent, strong women and they.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Standing on their own.

Speaker 5 (33:52):
They're self sufficient from a man, from a man, that's fine.
Guess what.

Speaker 7 (33:58):
There also are a man who are seven foot tall.
Is not a lot of them though, world not just
it's freestyle. You see a lot of.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
And in Atlanta there's a lot of boss broads, you know,
Giji that they got agreed up or whatever. They entrepreneurs
doing it.

Speaker 5 (34:18):
But still there, huh, they still want it no matter what.
They got.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
A lot of begging.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Man.

Speaker 9 (34:26):
The problem I come across with guys is they see
a woman that's handling her business and that don't need
them financially, so they don't offer. And it's like, why
you don't make sure I'm good because you got it,
But even though I got it, I'm holding it down,
they still don't. That still mean it's a gift, generous man,
When you're a generous dude, sometimes that that's a gift

(34:49):
in a curse because then you have those that will
pray on that they will praying like this he he
you know, and they didn't try to make it like
he's got.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
His own trauma.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
And as.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
There speaking person, I had.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Some trauma I came from. But I'm just saying, man
a lot younger. Yeah, I've been through. I've been married,
I got three grown kids, so I've been through.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
You know you've been through life.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Yeah, been through life. I'm fifty two. I've been through.
So I've witnessed and experienced certain things where I'm like, Okay,
like you said, I've had some trauma, but you know
I'm now, I'm cool, but I still motherfucking don't be
coming big now, ship Like, come on, I'm gonna make
sure you good. I'm one of them type cats.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
I love to hear how you operate under these circumstances,
like with the woman asking you for things?

Speaker 6 (35:40):
Are you.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Let me say, yeah, I want to hear this.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
My dog said yeah, I want to know are you
giving it up?

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Or are you?

Speaker 8 (35:49):
Like what?

Speaker 5 (35:50):
What exactly what we're talking about?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Let's just say mortgages.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Do I need a little help.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
I'm only investing in the things that I'm going to
make a profit from. I'm only going to give to
things i'm going to receive from. So if I'm going
and that's not just with my money, that's what my
time as well, because these are valuable things on earth
that I take very daily. And again, sex is an

(36:17):
even exchange. When you someone that has sex on the
level that I have sex.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
What's that level?

Speaker 5 (36:23):
God level?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Like you explain.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
What's level? That's God love right, God level.

Speaker 7 (36:32):
What it says mean is that my durance is different.
The way that I touch a woman is different, like
the like the type.

Speaker 5 (36:39):
Of ship that niggas just getting on. Two weeks ago.

Speaker 7 (36:41):
I've been sucking bitches toes and spitting on their feet
and standing on their.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Heads fifty.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
I've been picking girls up like for you picking up
girls in my concerts and ship like I've been picking
up two hundred pounds women.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Look at you, just look at.

Speaker 7 (37:04):
I'm just speaking on my own experience and said, Lord,
I've been blessed.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I've I've experienced my head being still on. Let's just say.

Speaker 9 (37:15):
That there's what you're heading there just where put that.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
There's one foot that one foot on your head.

Speaker 9 (37:22):
I know about that move back when he says, because
it's it's a move that headbodyan standing on my head,
stand on, nobody's going on.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
You say that until you caught into.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
What I'm saying. I'm scared of feed.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
I got me.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
I feel all everything what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
In the moment.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
You don't know what you're gonna do until you jumping
in the animal animal.

Speaker 9 (37:52):
You feel some pressure and you realize that that feeling good,
but that pussy.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Tangling and you're feeling good. You ain't gonna care to that
that man did.

Speaker 9 (38:02):
But afterwards, I said, nigga, you lucky you you because
I wouldn't let you step on my face like that.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Him do it again.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
You're ready to get on your head and you see
how you see how.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
You put on your hand.

Speaker 9 (38:20):
You better carrying me after that I let that man
put his foot on my head again.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
And again and again. I just can't. I don't know better.
It was a good time.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
And after the foot came up off my.

Speaker 9 (38:30):
Head, I asked him to come all right.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
A flash back? She said, hold on, now you put his.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Head and can't where I asked him to come on
my face? Okay, why was like your head?

Speaker 5 (38:42):
No?

Speaker 8 (38:42):
After Okay, I'm trying to like picture the position with
the foot on the head.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
It's definitely a version of doggie style. Like I was
face down. He ain't put on my face. I was
right here and my head.

Speaker 9 (38:56):
It was kind of like this, you know, like okay, yeah, all.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
Right, what's the craziest thing.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
You had a guy ready for it, but you had
a guy in the bedroom that you thought you would
never do.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Oh, that's an interesting question, you know.

Speaker 8 (39:11):
There's I don't think there's a lot that I thought
I wouldn't do that I've done. Like, I'm not I
wouldn't get like I'm not into like piss play or
anything like that.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
You will get.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
No, I don't want to me neither, Like I'm a freak.

Speaker 9 (39:26):
But you're also pretty young. That's good for twenty seventh.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
It was.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Me and I'm gonna freak.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
What's a reasonable freak?

Speaker 3 (39:37):
Yeah, I'm gonna use that reasonable.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
That's my new term.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
That's what you for me.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
But don't like reasonable.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
No, I have I have respect, I have boundaries.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
But at the end of the day, what's your boundaries?
What's an absolute? No, feel it's a boundary, your.

Speaker 7 (39:57):
Boundary I'd like me to talk about I can't. I
can't answer this question.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
I want to know that the bound the reasons, what you.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Want, anything that's not mainly how about that?

Speaker 1 (40:07):
That's like, no booty play, got it?

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (40:10):
That balls is fine?

Speaker 5 (40:14):
Yeah, that's a no.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Boy.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
You said your boss is your dicksto.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I never looked at it like that.

Speaker 7 (40:23):
That's part of my b That's like, say, theside list
is not attached to your lips.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
All of that ship is a tester right there. I
just want to say, you like paying on dudes.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
No, I've never peen on any.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
No no no no, no no no no. All of
that is not a test.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
You don't have to open up my connected to my
boss bone, my bosses connected.

Speaker 6 (40:56):
I'm sorry, but.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
You.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Nobody licked right there?

Speaker 7 (41:05):
You not nothing open a woman.

Speaker 6 (41:08):
Never trying that for a woman.

Speaker 5 (41:11):
That's not good. That's you. Never asked for a woman
that the dude.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Before I haven't.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
I would tell you I had.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Somebody asked me once just did it?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
Was at work? I was like, work, asked you at work?
I didn't be on him. I peed in a cup
and he drank it.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Wait what the he paid me for it?

Speaker 1 (41:36):
To five hundred dollars a shot? He used to do
it like for years.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
Who he was?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
He was a doctor, yes, caucasion.

Speaker 9 (41:46):
So he used to ask me to do it like
he would ask me to do it, and I'd be
like no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Wait wait, used to pee in a couple. He used
to drink like were doing.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
How did he drink like right away?

Speaker 9 (41:56):
So it was a regular customer that we would sit
around and drink with right. This in a gentleman's gentlemen's
club and boutie club is two different things.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
I'm a gentleman's like now like a chip like which
was it was cheerleaders and a cheatah cheetah.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah, okay, So I drink and we.

Speaker 9 (42:16):
Would sit and drink a lot, right and then he
was into that. So he asked me, like, would you
can you pie in a cup?

Speaker 1 (42:21):
I want to drink it.

Speaker 9 (42:22):
And I'm like no, Like he asked me for months
and I'm like no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
He caught me on a slow night.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
You said, I'm gonna get this fire.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
I ordered a right, we ordered around the shots. I
drank the shot.

Speaker 9 (42:33):
I took the cup with me into the dressing room.
I peed in the shot glass. I bought it back,
set it down in front of him. He picked it
up and drank it. Gave me my money, and I
got up and took the shot and dropped it in
the trash can.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
That's and then we would do that probably. Wow. It
would happen at least once or twice a month for
maybe like three years.

Speaker 9 (42:50):
I would try to do that like five, couldn't and
he would have gave he offered.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I mean, I didn't even want to, but that you know,
this was in two thousand.

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Two.

Speaker 9 (43:03):
It was like two thousand and two before magic. Yeah,
I was in Philly first, God, I was in Philly.
I was dancing in Philly from two thousand to two thousand.
Since you said that, when, what's the craziest thing a
guy asked you to do.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Uh no, not too much, just to like, you know,
Leaca's asshole, and you did it.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
No, no, that.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
No, come on winning you're a white chick from Portland
or done some freaky fucking.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
I'm not telling you. I'll tell you.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
I'm not looking and.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Let me have your question.

Speaker 9 (43:42):
Were you giving here before you because that's not that's not.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
A white girl like myths that y'all first before y'all?

Speaker 9 (43:50):
Were you giving it first and then decided that I'm
gonna go ahead and let him have some busy Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
thanks for clearing that up to that's not that they
start dogging me.

Speaker 8 (44:04):
And I got a song called John Morant.

Speaker 11 (44:06):
Okay, get up on your work, work.

Speaker 10 (44:17):
Work about let me let me go ahead.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Taking red on us that Look, that's what I do.
I'm bashful for.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
Men love a bashful women because they the freaky A
is one.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I love women when I say ship, I love when
I said me too. Well, listen, this is yell a crazy.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
If God made something better than pussy, he kept it
to himself.

Speaker 9 (44:57):
It's better than good pussy pussy money. What's better than
new pussy money? Two pussies oh, hold on, say that again,
is right. Only thing better than good pussy is new pussy.
The only thing better than new pussy is two pussy.

Speaker 5 (45:10):
She's right.

Speaker 11 (45:11):
What about money, Yeah, outside the money, but when you
have But this is the thing, this is let's talk
about the world piece.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Yeah, the world peace.

Speaker 7 (45:21):
Behind every great man is a greater woman. So when
the man and the woman are together, when one man
is in unison with multiple women, money it's not a problem.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
It's always around.

Speaker 3 (45:30):
And no matter how how many three.

Speaker 4 (45:32):
Songs you had, I've never had a three song.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
You have will you?

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Will you have?

Speaker 4 (45:36):
I don't think so it's not something I would want
to do in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
I agree, I've never had a three sound, So I'm
with you when you never had one, I had many.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
I'm old school.

Speaker 3 (45:46):
Start with the cab.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I've never had a three sound. I've had many. You
have meant multiple men.

Speaker 9 (45:54):
I can't even remember how many I've had three songs
with married couples. I've had three songs in the relationships
that I was in. I had threesomes with just not randoms,
but you know situationships.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Could you hear yourself with just like one woman forever?

Speaker 5 (46:08):
Never never never.

Speaker 7 (46:11):
Like that again when you look at me and you're
looking at like an ultimate truth, like I'm like the
man that like men should inspire to be, like if
you want to live a life or not be stressed out?

Speaker 5 (46:23):
You think it's even how many think it's the relationships?

Speaker 3 (46:28):
Is it even natural for kings like us to be
with one?

Speaker 1 (46:31):
You got to stand there, you nature, I believe not.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
But what she said, and that's the simple.

Speaker 9 (46:48):
What she just said of nature, I believe not. And
the reason is because and I'm gonna get you know,
get back with your X.

Speaker 11 (46:58):
No.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
You see how that.

Speaker 12 (47:01):
Doesn't mean let me talk about because he probably wasn't
what was going on. He probably wasn't a real enough
man to give her the option and allow her to
make the choice.

Speaker 9 (47:15):
Because as women, we our reproductive system only happens once
a month.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
We dropped one egg monthly.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
See this one.

Speaker 9 (47:23):
We reproduced ours, We reproduced, we reproduce our our reproduction cells.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
You know, our egg drops once a month.

Speaker 9 (47:33):
Men, they are constantly making seamen and it does not stop.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Until the day you die. You are constantly producing your
reproductive selves.

Speaker 6 (47:46):
Which is because it's another point, it's another point from.

Speaker 7 (47:51):
Let me just say this, because when I say this,
the Eureka light bulb goes over every man in America
that's watching this video. There's another concept in the fact
that you add on today. Not only does a man
producing the sperm all day long if he does not
ejaculate that sperm.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
A lot of women think a lot of.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
These creepy dudes are creepy because they jack off all day. No,
it's natural, human and natity.

Speaker 7 (48:10):
If the man is not jack off, not ejaculate, he
is supposed to get something called blue balls.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
God, that's real, that is real.

Speaker 6 (48:26):
Speak on it. I don't think people know what blue
balls is. Let me speak on him.

Speaker 7 (48:31):
Just like nobody can't tell you what you go through
is through your ministry process.

Speaker 6 (48:36):
Understand, we always see what girls go through. We can.

Speaker 7 (48:42):
What, Okay, what blue balls is is when a man
has constantly has the urge to have sex or ejaculate
and he does not do it.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
You were strained from it.

Speaker 7 (48:51):
So what happens is throughout the day, your body works,
so your dick gets on hard all day for no reason.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
You don't have to have.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Your test goes to swell up, to swell up like unhealthy, painful.

Speaker 6 (49:03):
To her, it's very good.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
Well, listen to stat to Jerry. Give me one second.
You think about the time that George Badness was on
here and everybody was and he was doing return child.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
He does not. He does seemen doing that. Gates does that. Everybody. Yeah,
and now you're saying, I'm not.

Speaker 9 (49:25):
What let's go to Let's go to the sex education
class right now. Scientifically, a man has to release his semen.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
He believe that.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
You believe that just because he told you.

Speaker 9 (49:39):
Yeah, as a woman, we thought to have sex, sac
we don't have the urgentes that do we like sex?

Speaker 1 (49:44):
I love sex.

Speaker 9 (49:45):
I would like to have sex more regularly than I do,
but if I could, I'm not in a relationship, so
I'm not how typically they have to releave.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
He stopped.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
They have to stop, They have to let it out.

Speaker 9 (50:00):
They do it themselves, they themselves or they do it
with their women.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
But guess what.

Speaker 9 (50:05):
Monogamy is a choice you choose to only be with
one person.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
To monogamy is not really realistic. Thank you, thank you, Jerry.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
But it's the truth that you know that the women,
the women.

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Because they the truth, they don't want to hear that.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
Okay, what about that.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
If you find a woman that was amazing, perfect to
everything you needed her to do, held you down, took
care of you, had her own ship.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
You know what I'm saying, what's wrong with her and
what happened?

Speaker 3 (50:41):
She's psycho?

Speaker 7 (50:42):
You want to keep, you want to keep answering the
finish mean to cut you ahead. There is no such
things that exists. It's that perfect enough to make the
only one to be with her, because that would be
me lying to her and lying to myself that I
would be satisfied one hundred percent.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
By one woman when I know that I'm.

Speaker 7 (51:00):
I'm the type of a being, an extraordin extravaginary being
that could never be consumed by one person, and I
would be lying to them to tell them that I
would never get bored of them, or that I would
never want intimacy from someone else. Now, what that woman
can do to continue to be on my life forever
is to understand that and share those moments with me,

(51:21):
share those experiences with you. Wore I can enjoy you
as my lover, I can enjoy you as my friend,
and I can go through life journeys with you. And
now I wish there are women in the world that's
like that. But at the end of the day, what
I could be saying could be signing far fish and
strange all you want to, but none of the majority
of these people that's in relationships right now are not

(51:42):
in true monogamous relationship period.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
And most people think that.

Speaker 6 (51:45):
You think you think she know you were six women,
she got a roster.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
So are you really living.

Speaker 7 (51:52):
Women in your mind and your extanity. That's how people
catching these diseases. That's how you got multiple baby mothers
and widows and all these things going on because a
person tells you that for the moment to get what
they want, because he doesn't have the heart and the
balls to stand on what he truly wants.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
And I don't feel like he teats on me. I
believe it.

Speaker 6 (52:12):
Men, they have a smaller advertising.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
You do you bring other women into do you like, Hey,
I want to bring him and I want to watch
y'all do it.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
No, she just said they are monogamous, and I believe
that the it exists.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
It does exist.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Women that hey, J like we go out of town
or whatever, like, hey, I'm gonna bring somebody.

Speaker 9 (52:36):
So honestly, is my favorite sexual activity, said said what's the.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Limit as far as what's the most amount of women
you've been with at one time? At one time, I
got threesome for some firesome.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
For ok is that too much?

Speaker 1 (52:54):
You think even a lot? That's a lot for you,
a lot. It's not all of them though. Yeah, see
that's a lot. That wasn't like overload like what.

Speaker 7 (53:06):
I'm saying, Like, Okay, that's what I'm saying. No, No,
you have to understand, like, yeah, there's a lot of time.
That's the point that's like I can't do that salt.
Yeah yeah, yeah, Like again again there's not enough stuff.
That's not something that you do every day. But again,
when you eating right, you training, you working out, you know,

(53:28):
there's different type of people.

Speaker 5 (53:29):
In this world.

Speaker 7 (53:30):
That's my person that you sit up and get hot.
Dann smoke weed all day. I changed my body. I
work out. My blood is flowing. You get directions from
blood flowing your body. My blood is flowing very strong.
So in sexual situations, I not even usually I always
outperform my sexual partner always. So it only makes sense

(53:50):
for me to have more sexual partners than the one
that I have because that's how we keep the relationship refreshing,
and I don't have to live a lot a lot
of you when I come home and like, I don't
have to have my phone lip I don't have I've
never I don't go to the experienced. Oh she broke
on my phone and found this girls. No such thing
as this, no just thing. It's coming home too, Like
it's no things. I like this girl. Picture if I
like a girl, picture a girl this in my life.

(54:10):
And I say, oh, hey baby, then you've seen that
that girl you like though she was just talking to
you know, she's pretty well get it's way more going
that way. You don't have to live a lot. Most
people are living in a lot that they don't actually
want to live, but they're trying to do the right thing.

Speaker 5 (54:25):
I'm a person that.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Do here society that you women, would you marry them?
You notice?

Speaker 7 (54:34):
I said, yeah, okay, Like I say, I tell us
the girls that I'm that I deal with all the time,
people that I know all the time. If I was
to ever get her then age and a place where
I want to take myself out the game off the
market and yeah two three sold.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
You know what I'm saying to is fine?

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Cool?

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Is cool?

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Cool?

Speaker 5 (54:55):
You know what I'm saying, like even like like I'm.

Speaker 7 (54:57):
The type of person I try to keep my the
mothers and my children's are being friends.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
They've all dated, Yes, you said they dated each other.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (55:07):
See that's what I'm talking about, mothers and children each other.

Speaker 8 (55:12):
It's great that he knows himself and he's honest with
himself and me. You know, I'm getting close to not
anyone I'm dating for him.

Speaker 3 (55:28):
I've been serious when I say this. The women that
you deal with, I wish they could do a class
on like, look, let's stop the caddy ship. We both
know we got to share.

Speaker 7 (55:37):
Just think about it like this, How many households in
America would have more finances and a better out bringing
their children if the man that was in the middle
between these two mothers that's raising all separately.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
They're calling themselves single, single mothers.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
You got to think about how that's unnatural for women.

Speaker 8 (55:55):
You only thinking about the men's perspective women.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
I was saying, this is a lot of women that
make more than men too. So do you think that
if the women are making more than the men, that
that's also on the sip side.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
And see, here we go, this is what providing is
way more. And I see all this stuff on social media.
Providing it isn't even monetary, man, it's not financial. Providing
is way more.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
Than that than just money.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
It's way more than that. And trust me, I've been
a provider. You got to be their emotional. Like he
just said, if you got two women, we got kids,
and you come together as a man, as a king,
you are providing way more. They might make more bread.

Speaker 7 (56:38):
I honestly I concur that statement as well. And it's
a lot of powerful, intelligent, strong, multi million and women
in the world. But if you was to line up
the most the biggest fortune five hundred companies in the world,
the biggest television stations in the world, the biggest gas
and produce companies in the world, they're not owned by women.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
They're owned by me.

Speaker 7 (56:59):
If there are women who are part of the ownership
of those companies, they're on the council. They're at a
table where they're still majority male owners of these.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
Companies though.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
In facts.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
But that's like you know, you're saying, it's by the system.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Yeah, like.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Build that when you look out on there on the
scaffold hanging off, putting windows up.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
What I'm saying is this is what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 7 (57:26):
What I'm saying is that it is very possible and
it should be that way, and people are making the
moves and the steps needed necessary to make that more realistic.
But let's just talk about this one lip surface right now.
It's not a full staff of women in the background
doing these other jobs. It's just the beautiful lady here.
There are the thoughts that they are.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
Might be talking on.

Speaker 5 (57:47):
It's just the truth.

Speaker 8 (57:49):
It's sorry, I'm not saying it's not the truth. I'm
just thinking about why is it that way? What's the
history that made it so men could have those opportunities
and women.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
I don't know why I'm.

Speaker 5 (57:59):
Black and you're wife.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
That's just life, right, I mull say this.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
I think that things are changing. They're definitely.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Back in the day, women didn't go out and work
and make the money that they make, and it is like, yes,
it is a process.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
So I think that there's a lot of.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Women that are in relationships and I know a lot
of them where they make more than their men, and
that's just what it is.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Now.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
You bring two of those together, whatever a man providing
is way more than financial.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Yeah, that's the fact. And women too. Women.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
So you got two women that come together, they make
great money and the man make cool money, and you
got kids together, just like with this what he's hey, man,
come together and let's build something together financial and the
man is going to bring a certain level of stability.
I mean, let's just be real kids and what's happening
in society is the reason? What does everybody go back to?
Why society the way it is? Why? But you know,

(58:54):
because the lack of a male father presence in the hall.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
But not just father now I want to play with
it for years. But with so let's talk about this
for a second though, right, Like this song without You,
that was a very personal song my mom that you did, right,
and you reference your mom on that, So how does
she feel about that? And like where are you now
with that? Because that was years ago.

Speaker 7 (59:18):
My mama raised me and this shit like my mom
raised me in his lifestyle, my mama raised me to
understand it. Even though I went through all the hardships
and the troubles with my mother, she always raised me
to understand, you're a king, you're a young black man,
you're handsome, You're going to be a leader. People are
going to want to utilize the attributes that you possess

(59:40):
as a man, and by you having those attributes, you
have to take leadership qualities and the accountability for having
those things. So therefore, you should have standards that everybody
should respect because you are what you are, the eye
in the apple of what the world wants. A successful
black man, a handsome black man, a black man that's
going to do great things. My mama was already programming

(01:00:01):
in my brain when I was the kids along with
the fact of her living a lifetile. My mom was
an anxiety dancer, so like I grew up like waiting
on my mom and to come home from the strip
club and like, just I seen it all, I understand
it all. So my MoMA would always tell me the son,
when you come into money and when you come into
success in life, all women are going to use or

(01:00:22):
utilize the fact that you having success and you going
to conquer things. But it's up to you to determine
how that plays out. And if you're smart, you're going
to bring the women in your life and help them
help what you are building instead of have them destroy
what you're building. Because they're fighting for a position of domination.
And that's the problem is because no matter how much

(01:00:43):
you want this man to let me say this, women
are the prize to the men that they when women
are the prize to the men that want them, not
the men that they want, the average man that the
woman actually wants to be with that ex or that
person that she been striving to get to, or that

(01:01:06):
that that famous celebrity model, that she would just she
would leave her husband and her boyfriend for today to
just have a one night stand with this man. But
to that man, she's just another girl in the street.
But to that a woman that you put her in
the average just in the ever setting of men period,
she's attractive and accessible like she a man wants to

(01:01:31):
have a sexual relation with her, no matter what status
quo she has, no matter what level of like she is,
because it is a man has to earn sex.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
Women control sex. Women control on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
The side what we want y'all control to see, But
y'all don't control the happiness of the household.

Speaker 7 (01:01:53):
Y'all don't control the leadership in the growth of the
household that comes from a strong relationship. So that men
control that. Why does the man control that, because the
man has to earn all of those attributes for you.

Speaker 5 (01:02:06):
To select him as the alpha.

Speaker 7 (01:02:09):
If he does not have the car, he doesn't have
the responsibility.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
He doesn't. If he can.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
Have all the money and all that ship and y'all
go out on the date and he lets another man
slap the ship out of you, you're.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
Going to leave him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:19):
And guess what what? I was always told, we're the
first to get blamed, last to get thanks.

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
Absolutely, so, if a man has to take all of
those first to be constituous and a man.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Every day should you should?

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
I you should be mad at him if he demands
a little more, Yeah, I did.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
The man wants.

Speaker 8 (01:02:43):
Yeah, it's a little old school what I think that
perspective is valid, But I think it's a little old
school school.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
Just you know that the man's creating the happiness.

Speaker 8 (01:02:53):
I think it's a balance. I think it's fifty to fifty.
It's like in my partnership, like I'm bringing fifty percent,
he's praying fifty.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
A man, Yeah, okay, it's different.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
When we felt about what you do for a living,
he's stops.

Speaker 8 (01:03:04):
He's inspired by it. Like, okay, he's a creative as well.
He's a mechanical engineer.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
Yeah, okay, we love he's an artist as well.

Speaker 8 (01:03:12):
College boy, I'm smart, very smarty, melland dude he is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
Yeah, okay, choke listen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
I appreciate this whole conversation though, because you know, I
love to talk about these like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
Versus comment. But we are but honestly.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Like we all need each But I also feel like avolve.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
And also sometimes change the way that we think too
as well. We don't, okay, because that's how you just
looked at me.

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
I'm doing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 7 (01:03:48):
You know, I'm the cyber person and the way that
I feel I have an answer or a scenario to
explain my perception.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
Yeah, you got the street smartst But then I hear
you talk and I know you can blend in anywhere, and.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
That's rare on any level.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
That's rare. But its a lot of Yeah, I just
peep and you know I'm big on spears and energy
and all that, and I peeped it when you came in,
so I know you able to you a commit you
can blend in. You can go on Corporate America and talk,
and you can go to the streets.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
And with us so and when we appreciate you too
for coming through.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Maw y'all know and listen to her music.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
See what that world played like?

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Oh my god, because y'all was you was frying like
you ain't never had no rug BRANDD that I have.

Speaker 9 (01:04:39):
And then you're going to shower, and you know, realize
until you get in the shower and that thing burn.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Okay, service lip service, I love.

Speaker 7 (01:04:50):
I love I All the young ladies in the world
find them a good man like that that has a
good job and come home to you every night and
wait on the meal.

Speaker 5 (01:04:58):
And I wish you to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Most are not wrong with that square is life. Ain't
not wrong?

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
Just a circle.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
We love you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
Just start service.

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Service the service