August 15, 2024 • 39 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and guests:
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- Accuweather's Matt Benz discussed the storms that recently raced across the state.
- John Farrell, Director of Financial Planning, Analysis, and Treasury for Caring.com outlined 3 in 10 seniors in the workforce have "unretired," primarily due to inflation.
- A topless protest taking place in Boston on Saturday in support of gender equality - the organizer of the rally, Kasyo Perrier, discussed.
- New England jingles we can’t get out of our heads! Boston Globe writer Spencer Buell shared the details.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks very much, Nicole. It has been a wild weather
afternoon and evening here in New England and particularly in
eastern New England, and we're going to talk about that
in a moment with Matt Ben's of AQI Weather. I
appreciate that he'll take a few minutes to it's been
a busy night for him. But my name is Dan
rayam the host of Nightside. Rob Brooks is back solo tonight,
(00:28):
running the program from the broadcast headquarters at an undisclosed
location in Midford, Massachusetts. My name is Dan Ray. I'm
the host, and we have a very interesting set of
interviewees during this particular hour. We're going to talk about
seniors in the workplace, seniors going back to work because
(00:50):
of the economy. You're going to talk about a topless
protest coming up this Saturday on the Boston Common. And
then we're going to talk with US Spencer Buell of
the Boston Globe about several New England jingles. You know,
those little jingles that you just can't get out of
your head. We'll be talking about those. But we're going
to start off talking about this wild, wacky weather that
(01:14):
we've all experienced. I've talked to several friends of mine
in the last two hours, and with us, it's Matt
ben's ACKI weather meteorologist. Matt. Thanks for joining us. It's
been kind of a busy afternoon and evening for you,
I would suspect.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, and thank you for having me here. Yeah, definitely
a busy afternoon into the evening with these slow moving
heavy thunderstorms that brought not only heavy rain, bud strong
dusty winds. We had many ports of hail here across
the Greater Boston area and things finally beginning to calm down.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Just now, when did you first notice I don't know
what time your work schedule is, but when did you
first get an inkling that today might be a more
interesting I think this is the most interesting weather day
of the summer. I stand to be corrected by you,
the expert, But when you see hale, I've seen hale
on the newscast tonight and the six o'clock news looks
(02:05):
like they were hail size of ping pong balls coming down. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, ping pong golf ball size hail certainly something that
you don't see all the time here in New England,
and yeah, you know it started off earlier on this
afternoon when thud of storms really started to blow up
across New Hampshire and the kind of just sustained themselves
pushing due south, which you typically don't see a lot
of our storms come from the west or from the southwest,
but these came from the north. So already you knew
(02:30):
it was going to be unusual day just because of
the direction the storms were coming. But of course there
was a severe aspect in the heavy aspect of those
storms as well as they headed south and just kind
of sustained themselves here through the late afternoon and early evening.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, it looked like watching some of the weather forecaster
in the six o'clock newscast, it looked like Boston got
a good amount of rain, nearly two inches as I
understand that.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, round two inches of rain in Boston. Some spots
just checking south to town towards Plimpton, and then they
just had a line from there down south towards the
north side of fire Mouth, anywhere from two to four
inches of rain. Wouldn't be surprised if some backyard rain
gauges out there, maybe had that three to four inch mark.
But yeah, certainly some heavy soaking rain for a lot
of areas.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So now is it quieting down? I'm told that during
the summertime, once the sun sets, it tends to quiet
things down, at least this sort of weather activity tends
to get quieted down.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, it will start to calm down. We do have
one set of storms coming out of the southern southwestern
part of New Hampshire pushing into the northern part of
the state right now. There is a warning on that
up in New Hampshire. But it looks like that those
are beginning to lose their intensity because they gain all
their energy from the daytime heating of the sun and
that's what helps to create the thermals in the atmosphere
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that rise up and develop these storms. So once the
sun sets, things generally, at least in our neck of
the woods, start to calm down once you get to
this time of the night.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Now has this little afternoon weather phenomena. Has this helped
us a little bit with the big storm in Nesto
that is just about has finished with Puerto Rico as
moving towards Bermuda, and it looks as if it's going
to avoid us this weekend. Did this little weather pattern
(04:13):
kind of keep Ernesto a little further off out to
sea than it might have otherwise been.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, that's a great observation, and that's exactly what we're
seeing right now. A large upper level low is what
we'll call it, coming across New England is now moving
into the maritime provinces of Canada, and what that's helping
to do is steering. It's nudging Ernesto to stay out
to see instead of turning towards the northwest, it's going
to be more north and eventually we'll go more northeast
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as we head into the weekend and early next week.
One thing that Ernesto is doing right now, it's slowing
down the weather pattern. So we've kind of been stuck
with this particular storm now the last two days. Typically
we'd only see these storms stick around for a day
or so, but now this has been a couple of
days across New England. Finally shifting off towards the east,
and then with Arnesto coming north, we may actually manage
a couple of dry days here through the weekend before
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things get wet into early next week once again.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So we might look out. We've we've done pretty well
with weekends and this summer, and I was away for
about nine days, so I kind of missed a couple
of weekends. I don't want to be speak out attorn here.
I was on a trip to Italy with a bunch
of nightside listeners. We've been we've been pretty lucky with weekends. Well.
I believe last weekend was kind of nasty, I'm told
by some friends. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, last weekend was. We had a pretty pretty
wet stretch of weather going into the earlier this week,
through the last weekend and even the week before just
kind of a gray, rainy stretch of weather. So at
least for us for this weekend at least turning out
dry Saturday Sunday. Do you want to stress? So, even
though Ernesto is way offshore, this is driving in some
swells that are going to be reaching the east coast
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here over the next couple of days, So it may
be pretty inviting to go out to those beaches, but
just be aware ripped currents and some rough surf will
be a concern here for both Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Absolutely, as we grab these final few weekends, we'll come
a few final few weekends of August and then Labor Day.
All of that, we know we hate to see this
time of year ago as quickly as sometimes it appears
to be. Matt, appreciate you taking the time with us today.
I hope you have a very RESTful and easy rest
of the night, and nothing more, nothing more. Pops me
(06:17):
you bet you, thank you so much. When we get back,
we're going to talk with a director of financial planning,
analysis and treasury for a company called caring dot com.
His name is John Farrell, not the former Red Sox
manager John Farrell. We'll double check on that just to
be sure. But he's going to talk with us about
seniors in the workplace. Three and ten seniors in the
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workfhace in the workforce, I should say, have decided they
unretired primarily due to inflation.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This is this is a real problem, and it's a
problem for people who thought, Okay, my work and my
work days are over. Now I can kind of kick
back and relax, not necessarily, so we will explain on
the other side of the break. My name's Day. This
is Nightside. We also are going to talk about a
topless protest this weekend on Boston Common, and four very
(07:09):
familiar New England jingles from more than a few years ago,
that most of us who have been around for a
while probably can't get them out of our heads. Well,
we will explain all of this, and then coming up
at nine o'clock time, we'll talk with Boston Herald syndicated
columnist Jeff Robbins about concerns in the Jewish community over
the Democratic ticket, the Harris Waltz ticket. We will explain that.
(07:36):
Later on tonight, we're going to ask you about how
your economy's doing. Everybody's talking about the big macro economy.
I want to know the micro economy. How is it
working in your household at this time? Back right after
these messages. My name is Dan Ray. This is night Side.
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(07:56):
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Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Light Side Studios on WBZ NewsRadio.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, I think a lot of us have been talking
about the economy in the last few months. Actually the
last couple of years, we had a lot of inflation.
Inflation is slowing down a little bit. But once inflation
gets a bite into our pocket books and our wallets,
it doesn't let go with us. As John Farrell the
director of financial planning, analysis and treasury for a company
(08:37):
called carrying dot Com. John Farrell, not the former Red
Sox manager of a few years ago. Welcome tonight's side.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Good eating Dan? How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I'm doing great. There was a namesake manager of the
Red Sox's name was John Farrell.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I'm well aware. I have his card. I'm actually a
born and raised Red Sox fan. My dad's from Walpole,
mass so Yeah, I was raised Red Sox, Celtics, Patriots, Bruins.
I had a Drew Blood soldiersy on me before I
knew what was what.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
So well, good good for you. And by the way,
I have a lot of friends and relatives in Walpole, Massachusetts.
Lewis Avenue uh was a was a home of some
relatives of mine. Anyway, some disconcerting news three and ten
seniors in the workforce have unretired primarily due to I
(09:26):
guess inflation. What's going on.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah, So, as you alluded to kind of in your
preamble there, Dan, in the last you know, four or
five years, the economic situation and specifically in this country
has been pretty uh pretty pretty uh volatile. I guess
you could say it, right, you know, starting with the
pandemic and and then you know the stimulus stimulus that
(09:52):
comes from that, and then right in you know, right
into the supply shy socks and and uh demand side shocks.
Then we have shocks that hit all the you know,
building building materials.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
And everything like that.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
And so you know, navigating for this for seniors as
they thought they were ending their career has been a
very very treacherous demand of them.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, a lot of those folks are like me, baby
boomers who grew up and were told, hey, you work hard,
and you're able to retire maybe when you're sixty two,
sixty five, worst case scenario sixty eight, so three and
ten seniors in the workforce today, how do we how
(10:35):
do you calculate seniors? Is that people over sixty five,
people over seventy's what's the the and yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
In the survey we we care dot com we did,
the age range we included is between sixty two and
eighty five.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Oh okay, okay, So are they people at the high
end of that age range who are still working out
of necessity. I'm not talking about somebody who has a
job that is kind of an avocation type job. I'm
talking about people who are working because they must work.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, So as far as that's the type of work,
you know, I can't speak to that as much. But
in our survey, you know, all respondents aged eighty eighty
five rejoined to remain in the workforce to pay down
medical or other debt. And so you know, we're getting people,
you know, through that entire spectrum of ages stick to
two two eighty five that are replying that they're having
(11:35):
to go back into the workforce, yes.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
After having retired.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Sorry, So that would be the younger people. There would
be people, ironically who would have been born in nineteen
sixty two and to have been born in nineteen eighty five.
People could have been born as as as early or
as late however you look as nineteen thirty nine. So
these are people in the who were born in the forties, fifties,
(12:02):
and a couple of years in the sixties who are
now being impacted. This is the group you're concerned about.
What's the future look like? I mean, obviously some of
those folks, you know, at the higher end of the spectrum,
they don't have a lot of work years left.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Well, if they're unretiring, you know, I guess they would
they would say their work years are done, right, you know,
they thought they were done with the with the carousel
and going around and around, and so what does the
future look like? Dan, That's a great question. I think.
I think it's risk. That's That's the kind of the
world I keep coming back to with this survey and
(12:39):
this and this and this and this piece is you know,
seniors in this country are having to take on more
and more risk, and the risk in either too much
risk in their portfolio, right, having to invest in vehicles
that maybe they shouldn't be at that age. Or it's
risk in going back to the workplace and and having
to wake up and put that damage and then those
(13:01):
miles in the in the body right, Or it's it's
having to cut back on essential expenses, whether that be
you know, the nice to have medication or whether that
be a level of care or service that they need.
And so you know, the future is it's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So what's the scary things about your Your company is
called caring dot com. Tell us what that does? I
see the director of Financial Planning, Analysis and treasury. Does
your company provide some help to these folks who are
looking at their bank accounts and looking at their longevity
and looking at their medical needs and saying.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
With with a pitch like that, you know, you could
be Tim Wakefield. So you know, Karen dot com, we're
a free, free website to do all all who need it.
You know, it's the entire service is free. We help
you through the entire journey, whether you're beginning it, in
the middle of it, or restarting it right and and
we have all types of resources for seniors, whether it
(13:59):
be you know, link and resources to help finding you know,
a new job or just you know, guidance through the
financial landscape of you know, estate planning and end of
life planning. And so you know, you can call us.
We have people on the phone, we have resources digitally
on the website. You know, however you want to get
(14:19):
in contact with us, whatever level of you know, technology
or interacting your comfortable with Go ahead, let me ask
you this.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Okay, free, which is which is obviously a good price
for somebody who's being forced back into the workforce. How
does your website generate money? I may be free, but
I'm assuming that you're getting a paycheck? What what what's
the sources?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And yeah, of course, so you know, with the community
that we work with and some of the and some
of the senior senior homes you work with. You know,
if we're able to find a solution for a senior
and it works for them, and it works for the
family and and you know, and they're happy. You know,
the community, the community we work with, we have a
contract with them and and they and they pay s
good enough.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
No, that's that's totally legitimate. Uh. It sounds like a
great service. It's real simple, simple simple. It's called caring
dot com. I call it the treadmill of life. I
use that term when I put my son on the
kindergarten school bus many many years ago, as he you know,
sort of struggled to get up to that first big step,
(15:22):
I said, welcome to the treadmill of life. So these
are folks who got off the treadmill of life and
now we're back on the treadmill of life. And if
you're in that situation, caring dot com has some free information,
free services, and maybe even some counseling. It sounds like
if you have people on the phone, live and in person. Correct, John,
(15:45):
did we lose? Did we you? We just lost? John?
I was giving winding up for the big finish there.
If we get him back. I just want to make
sure that people understand that they can go there and
get web information on the website digitally. Okay. Uh. But
also it sounded to me as if they do have
some people who are available via phone, so you can
(16:08):
ask questions and get some answers and all of this
will be free. Uh. If you want to take avail
yourself of it again, it's caring dot com. You got
them back? Rob Okay, John, I was I was doing
the big pitch there. I was trying to close it
up for you, and so all I wanted to do
was emphasize that besides the website for people of the
(16:29):
baby boomer generation, we like to talk to other people,
you do have some people who they can.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Get We have perfect we have we have fas FAM advisors.
They're waiting by the phone. Whenever you guys need to
talk to them. We have them all you spread out
all across the country. We got we got coverage. Yes,
if you don't if you want to talk to somebody,
you want to talk it through. I'm that way too.
You know. I don't like all the time the visital
messaging because I think the feedback loop on that sometimes
(16:54):
can be just too slow to solve problems. And so
of course we have people waiting by the phone ready
to talk.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Great and by the way, some bad news tonight the
Red Sox are losing in Baltimore. John, kind of closer
to where you are down there. I believe you're in
that Dan.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Tonight we got to focus on Drake Man, making sure
he's going all right. I haven't watched anything yet, but
now don't.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Tell me you give there are only three games out
of the wild Card. Come on, don't be it no
prom John Fowl. I really enjoyed the conversation you gave
me straight answers. I asked you tough questions because I
always make sure that anyone we have on this show,
and I didn't get a chance to talk to you
earlier in the day, are actually actually going to be
(17:33):
of help to my listeners, and that my listeners are
not going to find themselves in some sort of financial trap.
You sounds like a great organization Caring dot Com, and
you sound like a great guy, even though you weren't
the Red Sox manager in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Thanks very much.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Okay, you're a good sport too.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yep, thank you Dan, Thank you John.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
All Right, we come back. Very interesting story. There's going
to be a topless protest this weekend on the Boston Common.
I'll let you know when where, And well, look, I
think it's interesting, I really do. We might even talk
about this at some length tomorrow night, but we're going
to talk with one of the protest organizers of this
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Boston rally. Topless protest will take place on the Boston Common,
not at a beach on the Boston Common. It's going
to be in support of what's called gender equality. We'll
be back right after the news at the bottom of
the hour.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right, welcome back, Thank you very much to call.
By the way, I just wanted to make mention because
I'm enjoined in our remote studio tonight by a wonderful
dog named Mustard. He's a corgy his grandfather one of
his grandfathers, I guess. And he's a Corgi that was
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adopted from a great shelter a year ago. He's a
magnificent dog. And he has sat here with me quietly,
has not barked. I gave him the instructions you can't
bark during the program. He's the Uh, he's his his
parents and my daughter Katie, and my son in law Ted.
Uh and uh. I just am so thrilled that that
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Mustard really understand I think he understands what we're talking about.
And maybe Mustard, you should close your ears on this one.
No problem. I want to welcome to a remote studio here.
Uh uh Cassio, Perier Cassio. I hope I pronounced your
first name correctly. Is that the way it goes?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yes? Yes, yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Dan, excellent, Okay, Mustard Casio says hi. Uh. Cassio is
the organizer of a rally on the Boston Common which
is going to I guess start at the Embrace Statue,
which is now quite the landmark on the Common and
it's a topless protest to take place Saturday, is it
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one o'clock? I believe, yeah, And you're gonna end up
marching up to the state house topless. Normally these sorts
of topless protests take place on beaches. So why this
locale on Saturday?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Very simple? Topless equal right. If men can be topless
in public, women should have the same constitutional rights. Otherwise
men should cover the just.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, so you're looking for gender equality now that there
are probably some men who may may not who are
not in the best shape. Let's put it like that.
So we'll we'll leave that. So I was surprised in
the article that I read that there's a bunch of
states around the country where topless sunbathing is allowed. Is
(21:00):
that correct?
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Yeah, it is correct, But it's not in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Oh no, no, I mean that's that's why you need
the That's why you need the rally. I get that.
But the thing that was was really interesting to me
there was that a lot of those states were sort
of from the heart land there, I think Kansas and Wyoming,
not states that you would think of necessarily as places
where uh, you know, going topless for women, going topless
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those wouldn't be the states that would come to mind
initially interestingly enough to do you know what I mean
by that politically?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Yeah, well, yeah, Massachusetts is a liberal state, right, so
we're able to have the semi constitutional rights as men
and they don't have a beach we do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
this was.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
This said here. According to Equality, men acquired topless freedom
in the nineteen thirties only Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Kansas,
and Oklahoma. Those are not necessarily liberal communities, along with
some other individual counties and cities, allow full topless equality,
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meaning topless women can go topless. How watcher crowd do
you expect of participants? Let's start it off with that
way do you expect on Saturday? And how big a
crowd do you think you would draw of spectators and
supporters either, and some might be both spectators and supporters,
some might just be spectators.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
We have no idea. This is not our first time
in Boston. We usually do it in New York City,
and just some we decided to do it in Boston.
We've been having a lot of media.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Coverage Boston Globe, The Herald, and other major media for
the States so we hope to have a nice crowd.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Okay, well, look now you're on WBZ, which is the
largest radio station in New England.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
On night side, done in the.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Primetime hours, so I'm sure there's going to be a
lot of people. So it starts at the statue at
one o'clock and then yes, you take a stroll across
the Boston Common. This is a dumb question, but I
have to ask it. Have you been given a permit
for this rally or could the police come and say
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you don't have the appropriate permit? Have you sought to
get a permit for the for this rally in March?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
We don't know what to protest, so everybody is allowed
to protest. We didn't know what's going to go that
big either as far as the media coverage, so we
might have a lot of people. We'll see what happens.
But I think it's everybody should be able to have
the right to protest without asking any permission.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, well, I will tell you that in Boston. That's
one of the ways in which they sometimes try to
shut down these They'll say they'll say, well, you need
to have a permit issued. I'm sure you must have
lawyers or whatever associated with your group. And you may
think about that because you you know, you want to
make you want to have your protest, and I just
it's just a little friendly advice, is what I'm trying
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to tell you. You may want to look at. I understand
some people want to say, look, the last the last
thing we want to do is we don't want to
ask permission. I get that, But Boston Common is one
of those areas where sometimes you might you might need
a you might need a permit. Just a little bit
of what a word to the wise. How many of
these protests have you been involved in and in what
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other cities and what success and what reaction have you
had from the public at large.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Cassio Well Go Topless was founded in two thousand and
seven by a rail who is the international spiritual leader
of the Rail movement. And we started protest in New
York City. So since that year, every year we go
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to New York City.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
And how have you been received? Have you been welcomed? Oh?
People cheered, you give us, give us a what sort
of reaction you get?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Yes, yes, it's a big it's a parade that we
have now every year in New York City, which is
actually illegal for women to be topless, But we want
to bring awareness that even if it's legal, many women
don't exercise that right and they don't even know sometimes
it's legal.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
So it's legal in New York City, but probably not
legal in Boston. I don't know if you've ever heard
the phrase benned in Boston, and we have a various
history of Puritanical history. We had blue laws in Boston
where certain things couldn't happen on sun I mean, you know,
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Boston has sort of a tradition of being the most
progressive city in terms of these protest of this nature.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
If you get if you get the same yeah, the
same time gay marriage is legal, right.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Oh yeah, and it was one of the one of
the first states, if not the first state. So yes, yeah,
so you know you're right. I mean, maybe maybe your
protest on on Sunday will open up beaches. You know,
they do have Anantucket as I'm sure you know that's now.
I guess a lot on the Nantucket and there are
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some other beaches I'm told around Massachusetts where you know,
you can go topless, whether you're a man or a woman. So, uh,
this is your first time in Boston, Cassio or no
have you? Are you familiar with the city?
Speaker 6 (26:56):
So yeah, okay, I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I thought you might have been a native New Yorker. Okay,
so you are. You're a New Englander, so you know
what's going on. I'm gonna be very interested to see
how well you received. I think you'll be received much
better than perhaps many people might think. So best of
what on Saturday, I hope everybody is absolutely totally respectful
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to the people who will be there, and that that
nobody nobody gets out of line, if you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Okay, I think it's gonna go very well.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I think so, okay, Cassio, Cassio Perier. And if folks
want to get more information in advance of the rally,
is there a website that we can direct them to?
What what what?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Go?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well, that's a that's pretty simple, Go topless dot org.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
And we have a Facebook page, Instagram and tweet x. Yes.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay, so you're you're all up on social media and
they can start with go topless dot org. Cassio. I
enjoyed our conversation. Thanks very much, Thank you for the
shout out from Mustard the Cordy.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
All Right, when we get back, we're going to talk
about four New England jingles from more than a few
years ago. But if you've been around New England for
a while, you're going to know most of these. We're
going to talk with Spencer Buell, who's a writer for
the Boston Globe. I think this next segment will be fun,
something which all of us will stir some some memories.
(28:26):
And maybe you'll be singing these tunes or whistling these
tunes or humming these tunes tomorrow once you hear them
after not that many years back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Right after this, now back to Dan Ray live from
the Window World Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yes, indeed and very comfortable Window World Nightside Studios. And
I'm delighted to welcome Spencer Buell, who writes for the
Boston Globe. Spencer, welcome to Nightside. How are you.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Great?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Thanks?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Absolutely I think this is your Nightside dabut you if
I'm not mistaken. And uh, and I'm fascinated by this,
uh this story. What do you do stories on kind
of nostalgic things. Tell us what's what's your not necessarily
your beat, but but what's your area with the Globe.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, so my so my beat for the Globe really
is I cover Cambridge in Summerville. We have this newsletter,
the Camberville Newsletter that we uh that we write, that
we put out. My focus is generally on those two cities.
But I also the Globe very kindly lets me branch
out into stuff that I think is really interesting, and
sometimes I write for the Globe magazine and so so
(29:41):
this case, the reason you brought me on here today,
that was a Globe magazine story where I got to
branch out and do something I think is really fun.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Oh, it absolutely is fun. I had a chance to
read it. So, uh, those of us in New England
remember many of these. I think I remember all of them,
but correct me if I'm wrong. But these these were
jingles that were just everywhere in the seventies and eighties,
particularly on television. Is am I am I focusing people
(30:10):
properly when I say it that way.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Yeah, that's right. I mean we So what we did
was we focused on we really wanted to do a
story about famous New England jingles, and because it's me
writing the story, I you know, I grew up in
Massachusetts and the nineties and two thousands, and that's sort
of where my frame of reference is for a lot
of my favorite jingles, the ones that I really grew
up with. But the thing about a lot of these
(30:34):
New England jingles is a lot of them go back
quite a way, and so they've been on the air
since the eighties, you know, which I will point out
there are a lot of pop stars that would love
to have stayed on the air since the eighties. You know,
there's songs that don't last the summer. And well, let
me go.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Let me go to a couple here, just so people
know what we're talking about. Okay, let us go to
the Giant Glass jingle. Well, I don't know the Giant
Glass is still around, they may be, but this is
cut nineteen. I think everyone who is an adult and
has spent time in New England for the last you know,
thirty or so or more years will recognize this one
(31:14):
Cut nineteen.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Rob Giant Glass will replace your windshield and give you
a safe drive away time to ensure your car safety.
So called the number more New Englanders trust undred and
fifty four Giant.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Now. I don't know who that announcer was, but what
a great set of radio, old radio pipes he had
deep deep oh yeah pipes. And that jingle's been around.
I haven't heard that one in a while. Is Giant
Glass still in business? Do you know? Or no? It isn't.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
It isn't, so it was bought out by Safe Light,
and Safe Light of course has its own jingle.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
See, I've made a promise to myself. I wasn't going
to sing on the radio. But you know the one
you know that you no I know?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yep, absolutely, Okay, So we got another one here that
I think everybody who is ever skied in New England
would be familiar with. I'm not going to tell people
what it is because as soon as they hear it,
they will know it's cut twenty one rob.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
We've got to get rid of that jingle.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
That jingle is great?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
The jingle is the best.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
There are a lot of people that won't come up
here because of that jingle.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Let's have the customer to vote. Hey, let's set up
a ballot box.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Up in the front.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
One for saving it and one for losing.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Let the people decide cool democracy lose.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Mota. Oh yeah, now look, aunt what chusets is still around?
I don't know if that jingle is still being employed
by the by the owners of more chuse It's what's
the history there, Stephen. But they apologize.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
So they So they loved their jingle. They've been using
it for many years now. They they do still very
much use it. The story with that one, I love
that all of these have like a have a backstory,
and this one, this one definitely does. So this was
like around around nineteen ninety. They didn't have a jingle yet,
but they had these billboards all up and down the
(33:23):
mouse pike. And somebody's driving up and down the mouse
pike and they see the watch who said billboard while
they're listening to an old nineteen sixties dance hit called
the wah wah Tu see. Yes, I have to be
honest with you. I to be honest with you. I
did not know the wa wa su see, but a
lot of people did.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I did, I did. I never did it, but it
was but as a young child, I remember the wa
tu see. Yes, remember the rest? Yes?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
So so here I am dating myself again as like
a guy in his thirties who my references the nineties.
I grew up with wah wah choose it, not the
wawa tu see. But anyways, this guy hears it and
he pitches it to the watch use of people. He
just he records it himself and brings it to the
watch juset Mountain and says, this has got to be
your jingle. And at first they didn't like it. They're
(34:09):
like to goofy, I don't know, let me hear it again.
And by the third time they heard it, they said
it was like, this has to be it. This is
this is our jingle going forward. And they've kept it
the whole time. They said that people it's so recognizable
that sometimes all they do in their commercials is they
just play those first three notes, the bump bump bump.
When people know it's what use it, They're like, they
(34:30):
don't even have to say watch you said anymore?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
We got two more. Here here's one that I think
everybody This one, of course, wa war two sits is
a winter jingle. This is a summer jingle cut number
twenty two rub when the sun and the sun gets
hot a very see me but has some fun boy.
(34:55):
I'll tell you a lot of people know that that one.
That is for sure. I think that might have been
around even for a guy in his thirties.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Absolutely, that was. That one dates back to nineteen eighty four.
So guy, the guy who recorded that, this guy named
Tom Roussel, and at the time, he was like a
Berkeley grad who was looking for work in music. He
was doing all these playing all these gigs everywhere, taking
lessons like kind of it's not always easy to make
a living as a musician. And one of the gigs
that he had was writing jingles for small businesses. In
(35:26):
one day, he gets you know, he gets a request
from a local water park to do a jingle, and
so he puts it together. He writes it in about
three days, which is how long he had to do
it to write it, record it with a bunch of musicians.
The song goes out there and it stayed on the
radio for forty years. Just pretty remarkable. But this guy,
remember he's just working as a freelancer. So he was
(35:48):
paid a one time feet four hundred bucks and that
was it. You know, de root is not Tom.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, forty years, four hundred bucks. That works out to
what's it like ten bucks a years when you do
the math. Okay, last, but not least one that all
of us remember. And this is a company. I'm not
sure if they got bought or not, but they were.
They were everywhere. This is cut twenty three rob Bernie
(36:19):
and feels. It's all about the furniture and it's all
that beautiful customer quality becom in price. That's nice. Yeah,
that's nice. Are they still around? You know, I haven't
bought furniture a number of years.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
So they are still family owned by the Rubens family.
Bernie of Bernie and Phil's sadly passed a few years ago,
but the family is still running it. So it's now
the third generation is now at the helmet that thing,
which is which is pretty cool. So the thing with
this jingle is that they had it for many years too.
But in the twenty ten's, like around twenty fourteen, I
(37:04):
think it was they decided that they were going to
get rid of the jingle. They think that people were
getting sick of it, and then it was sending kind
of the wrong message that it was like, well, you know,
we're we do more than just sell an expensive furniture.
We got good stuff here, so they got rid of
the jingle, but people were calling for it. They missed it.
They really wanted the nostalgia Bernie and Phil, who they loved,
(37:26):
you know, they're sort of like New England's grandparents.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
And so the grandkids now at the home of the
company said we want to bring it back, and so
the jingle is back. It lives on.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
You would call that, they would call that back by
popular demand, literally exactly right. That's great, that's right, Spencer.
This was a great topic, a lot of fun for us.
Whenever you have something that you'd like to talk about,
which this was in the Golob magazine last week. I
was in Europe last week. That's I got to go
(37:59):
read it. Was it in last week? Was it coming up?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
It's coming out on Sunday, So it's on. You can
get it online now or you can pick it up
in you get it delivered or pick it up in
print form on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well, I will be reading it on Sunday afternoon, that
is for sure, Spencer. Great to make your acquaintance, and
I hope we get the cafe come back soon with
another very interesting and fun topic. Spencer Buell, The Boston Globe.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Thank you so much, Spencer, thanks so much for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
You bet you we come back. We're going to be
talking about a little politics here and some unease within
Jewish voters about the vice presidential pick and maybe even
the presidential nominee of the Democratic Party. I'll explain with
Jeff Robbins, who himself is a very committed Democrat, but
(38:52):
he has some concerns. Although there's no way, if you
know Jeff Robbins, he's ever gonna crossover and vote for
Donald Trump. I will explain it all right after the
nine o'clock news
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks very much, Nicole. It has been a wild weather
afternoon and evening here in New England and particularly in
eastern New England, and we're going to talk about that
in a moment with Matt Ben's of AQI Weather. I
appreciate that he'll take a few minutes to it's been
a busy night for him. But my name is Dan
rayam the host of Nightside. Rob Brooks is back solo tonight,
(00:28):
running the program from the broadcast headquarters at an undisclosed
location in Midford, Massachusetts. My name is Dan Ray. I'm
the host, and we have a very interesting set of
interviewees during this particular hour. We're going to talk about
seniors in the workplace, seniors going back to work because
(00:50):
of the economy. You're going to talk about a topless
protest coming up this Saturday on the Boston Common. And
then we're going to talk with US Spencer Buell of
the Boston Globe about several New England jingles. You know,
those little jingles that you just can't get out of
your head. We'll be talking about those. But we're going
to start off talking about this wild, wacky weather that
(01:14):
we've all experienced. I've talked to several friends of mine
in the last two hours, and with us, it's Matt
ben's ACKI weather meteorologist. Matt. Thanks for joining us. It's
been kind of a busy afternoon and evening for you,
I would suspect.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, and thank you for having me here. Yeah, definitely
a busy afternoon into the evening with these slow moving
heavy thunderstorms that brought not only heavy rain, bud strong
dusty winds. We had many ports of hail here across
the Greater Boston area and things finally beginning to calm down.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Just now, when did you first notice I don't know
what time your work schedule is, but when did you
first get an inkling that today might be a more
interesting I think this is the most interesting weather day
of the summer. I stand to be corrected by you,
the expert, But when you see hale, I've seen hale
on the newscast tonight and the six o'clock news looks
(02:05):
like they were hail size of ping pong balls coming down. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah, ping pong golf ball size hail certainly something that
you don't see all the time here in New England,
and yeah, you know it started off earlier on this
afternoon when thud of storms really started to blow up
across New Hampshire and the kind of just sustained themselves
pushing due south, which you typically don't see a lot
of our storms come from the west or from the southwest,
but these came from the north. So already you knew
(02:30):
it was going to be unusual day just because of
the direction the storms were coming. But of course there
was a severe aspect in the heavy aspect of those
storms as well as they headed south and just kind
of sustained themselves here through the late afternoon and early evening.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Yeah, it looked like watching some of the weather forecaster
in the six o'clock newscast, it looked like Boston got
a good amount of rain, nearly two inches as I
understand that.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, round two inches of rain in Boston. Some spots
just checking south to town towards Plimpton, and then they
just had a line from there down south towards the
north side of fire Mouth, anywhere from two to four
inches of rain. Wouldn't be surprised if some backyard rain
gauges out there, maybe had that three to four inch mark.
But yeah, certainly some heavy soaking rain for a lot
of areas.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So now is it quieting down? I'm told that during
the summertime, once the sun sets, it tends to quiet
things down, at least this sort of weather activity tends
to get quieted down.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, it will start to calm down. We do have
one set of storms coming out of the southern southwestern
part of New Hampshire pushing into the northern part of
the state right now. There is a warning on that
up in New Hampshire. But it looks like that those
are beginning to lose their intensity because they gain all
their energy from the daytime heating of the sun and
that's what helps to create the thermals in the atmosphere
(03:43):
that rise up and develop these storms. So once the
sun sets, things generally, at least in our neck of
the woods, start to calm down once you get to
this time of the night.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Now has this little afternoon weather phenomena. Has this helped
us a little bit with the big storm in Nesto
that is just about has finished with Puerto Rico as
moving towards Bermuda, and it looks as if it's going
to avoid us this weekend. Did this little weather pattern
(04:13):
kind of keep Ernesto a little further off out to
sea than it might have otherwise been.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, that's a great observation, and that's exactly what we're
seeing right now. A large upper level low is what
we'll call it, coming across New England is now moving
into the maritime provinces of Canada, and what that's helping
to do is steering. It's nudging Ernesto to stay out
to see instead of turning towards the northwest, it's going
to be more north and eventually we'll go more northeast
(04:40):
as we head into the weekend and early next week.
One thing that Ernesto is doing right now, it's slowing
down the weather pattern. So we've kind of been stuck
with this particular storm now the last two days. Typically
we'd only see these storms stick around for a day
or so, but now this has been a couple of
days across New England. Finally shifting off towards the east,
and then with Arnesto coming north, we may actually manage
a couple of dry days here through the weekend before
(05:02):
things get wet into early next week once again.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
So we might look out. We've we've done pretty well
with weekends and this summer, and I was away for
about nine days, so I kind of missed a couple
of weekends. I don't want to be speak out attorn here.
I was on a trip to Italy with a bunch
of nightside listeners. We've been we've been pretty lucky with weekends. Well.
I believe last weekend was kind of nasty, I'm told
by some friends. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, last weekend was. We had a pretty pretty
wet stretch of weather going into the earlier this week,
through the last weekend and even the week before just
kind of a gray, rainy stretch of weather. So at
least for us for this weekend at least turning out
dry Saturday Sunday. Do you want to stress? So, even
though Ernesto is way offshore, this is driving in some
swells that are going to be reaching the east coast
(05:47):
here over the next couple of days, So it may
be pretty inviting to go out to those beaches, but
just be aware ripped currents and some rough surf will
be a concern here for both Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Absolutely, as we grab these final few weekends, we'll come
a few final few weekends of August and then Labor Day.
All of that, we know we hate to see this
time of year ago as quickly as sometimes it appears
to be. Matt, appreciate you taking the time with us today.
I hope you have a very RESTful and easy rest
of the night, and nothing more, nothing more. Pops me
(06:17):
you bet you, thank you so much. When we get back,
we're going to talk with a director of financial planning,
analysis and treasury for a company called caring dot com.
His name is John Farrell, not the former Red Sox
manager John Farrell. We'll double check on that just to
be sure. But he's going to talk with us about
seniors in the workplace. Three and ten seniors in the
(06:39):
workfhace in the workforce, I should say, have decided they
unretired primarily due to inflation.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
This is this is a real problem, and it's a
problem for people who thought, Okay, my work and my
work days are over. Now I can kind of kick
back and relax, not necessarily, so we will explain on
the other side of the break. My name's Day. This
is Nightside. We also are going to talk about a
topless protest this weekend on Boston Common, and four very
(07:09):
familiar New England jingles from more than a few years ago,
that most of us who have been around for a
while probably can't get them out of our heads. Well,
we will explain all of this, and then coming up
at nine o'clock time, we'll talk with Boston Herald syndicated
columnist Jeff Robbins about concerns in the Jewish community over
the Democratic ticket, the Harris Waltz ticket. We will explain that.
(07:36):
Later on tonight, we're going to ask you about how
your economy's doing. Everybody's talking about the big macro economy.
I want to know the micro economy. How is it
working in your household at this time? Back right after
these messages. My name is Dan Ray. This is night Side.
You're listening to WBC ten thirty on your AM dial.
And remember if you ever had problems getting us on
(07:56):
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Speaker 1 (08:07):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Light Side Studios on WBZ NewsRadio.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, I think a lot of us have been talking
about the economy in the last few months. Actually the
last couple of years, we had a lot of inflation.
Inflation is slowing down a little bit. But once inflation
gets a bite into our pocket books and our wallets,
it doesn't let go with us. As John Farrell the
director of financial planning, analysis and treasury for a company
(08:37):
called carrying dot Com. John Farrell, not the former Red
Sox manager of a few years ago. Welcome tonight's side.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Good eating Dan? How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
I'm doing great. There was a namesake manager of the
Red Sox's name was John Farrell.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I'm well aware. I have his card. I'm actually a
born and raised Red Sox fan. My dad's from Walpole,
mass so Yeah, I was raised Red Sox, Celtics, Patriots, Bruins.
I had a Drew Blood soldiersy on me before I
knew what was what.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
So well, good good for you. And by the way,
I have a lot of friends and relatives in Walpole, Massachusetts.
Lewis Avenue uh was a was a home of some
relatives of mine. Anyway, some disconcerting news three and ten
seniors in the workforce have unretired primarily due to I
(09:26):
guess inflation. What's going on.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Yeah, So, as you alluded to kind of in your
preamble there, Dan, in the last you know, four or
five years, the economic situation and specifically in this country
has been pretty uh pretty pretty uh volatile. I guess
you could say it, right, you know, starting with the
pandemic and and then you know the stimulus stimulus that
(09:52):
comes from that, and then right in you know, right
into the supply shy socks and and uh demand side shocks.
Then we have shocks that hit all the you know,
building building materials.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
And everything like that.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
And so you know, navigating for this for seniors as
they thought they were ending their career has been a
very very treacherous demand of them.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah, a lot of those folks are like me, baby
boomers who grew up and were told, hey, you work hard,
and you're able to retire maybe when you're sixty two,
sixty five, worst case scenario sixty eight, so three and
ten seniors in the workforce today, how do we how
(10:35):
do you calculate seniors? Is that people over sixty five,
people over seventy's what's the the and yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
In the survey we we care dot com we did,
the age range we included is between sixty two and
eighty five.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Oh okay, okay, So are they people at the high
end of that age range who are still working out
of necessity. I'm not talking about somebody who has a
job that is kind of an avocation type job. I'm
talking about people who are working because they must work.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, So as far as that's the type of work,
you know, I can't speak to that as much. But
in our survey, you know, all respondents aged eighty eighty
five rejoined to remain in the workforce to pay down
medical or other debt. And so you know, we're getting people,
you know, through that entire spectrum of ages stick to
two two eighty five that are replying that they're having
(11:35):
to go back into the workforce, yes.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
After having retired.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Sorry, So that would be the younger people. There would
be people, ironically who would have been born in nineteen
sixty two and to have been born in nineteen eighty five.
People could have been born as as as early or
as late however you look as nineteen thirty nine. So
these are people in the who were born in the forties, fifties,
(12:02):
and a couple of years in the sixties who are
now being impacted. This is the group you're concerned about.
What's the future look like? I mean, obviously some of
those folks, you know, at the higher end of the spectrum,
they don't have a lot of work years left.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Well, if they're unretiring, you know, I guess they would
they would say their work years are done, right, you know,
they thought they were done with the with the carousel
and going around and around, and so what does the
future look like? Dan, That's a great question. I think.
I think it's risk. That's That's the kind of the
world I keep coming back to with this survey and
(12:39):
this and this and this and this piece is you know,
seniors in this country are having to take on more
and more risk, and the risk in either too much
risk in their portfolio, right, having to invest in vehicles
that maybe they shouldn't be at that age. Or it's
risk in going back to the workplace and and having
to wake up and put that damage and then those
(13:01):
miles in the in the body right, Or it's it's
having to cut back on essential expenses, whether that be
you know, the nice to have medication or whether that
be a level of care or service that they need.
And so you know, the future is it's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
So what's the scary things about your Your company is
called caring dot com. Tell us what that does? I
see the director of Financial Planning, Analysis and treasury. Does
your company provide some help to these folks who are
looking at their bank accounts and looking at their longevity
and looking at their medical needs and saying.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
With with a pitch like that, you know, you could
be Tim Wakefield. So you know, Karen dot com, we're
a free, free website to do all all who need it.
You know, it's the entire service is free. We help
you through the entire journey, whether you're beginning it, in
the middle of it, or restarting it right and and
we have all types of resources for seniors, whether it
(13:59):
be you know, link and resources to help finding you know,
a new job or just you know, guidance through the
financial landscape of you know, estate planning and end of
life planning. And so you know, you can call us.
We have people on the phone, we have resources digitally
on the website. You know, however you want to get
(14:19):
in contact with us, whatever level of you know, technology
or interacting your comfortable with Go ahead, let me ask
you this.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Okay, free, which is which is obviously a good price
for somebody who's being forced back into the workforce. How
does your website generate money? I may be free, but
I'm assuming that you're getting a paycheck? What what what's
the sources?
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And yeah, of course, so you know, with the community
that we work with and some of the and some
of the senior senior homes you work with. You know,
if we're able to find a solution for a senior
and it works for them, and it works for the
family and and you know, and they're happy. You know,
the community, the community we work with, we have a
contract with them and and they and they pay s
good enough.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
No, that's that's totally legitimate. Uh. It sounds like a
great service. It's real simple, simple simple. It's called caring
dot com. I call it the treadmill of life. I
use that term when I put my son on the
kindergarten school bus many many years ago, as he you know,
sort of struggled to get up to that first big step,
(15:22):
I said, welcome to the treadmill of life. So these
are folks who got off the treadmill of life and
now we're back on the treadmill of life. And if
you're in that situation, caring dot com has some free information,
free services, and maybe even some counseling. It sounds like
if you have people on the phone, live and in person. Correct, John,
(15:45):
did we lose? Did we you? We just lost? John?
I was giving winding up for the big finish there.
If we get him back. I just want to make
sure that people understand that they can go there and
get web information on the website digitally. Okay. Uh. But
also it sounded to me as if they do have
some people who are available via phone, so you can
(16:08):
ask questions and get some answers and all of this
will be free. Uh. If you want to take avail
yourself of it again, it's caring dot com. You got
them back? Rob Okay, John, I was I was doing
the big pitch there. I was trying to close it
up for you, and so all I wanted to do
was emphasize that besides the website for people of the
(16:29):
baby boomer generation, we like to talk to other people,
you do have some people who they can.
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Get We have perfect we have we have fas FAM advisors.
They're waiting by the phone. Whenever you guys need to
talk to them. We have them all you spread out
all across the country. We got we got coverage. Yes,
if you don't if you want to talk to somebody,
you want to talk it through. I'm that way too.
You know. I don't like all the time the visital
messaging because I think the feedback loop on that sometimes
(16:54):
can be just too slow to solve problems. And so
of course we have people waiting by the phone ready
to talk.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Great and by the way, some bad news tonight the
Red Sox are losing in Baltimore. John, kind of closer
to where you are down there. I believe you're in
that Dan.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Tonight we got to focus on Drake Man, making sure
he's going all right. I haven't watched anything yet, but
now don't.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Tell me you give there are only three games out
of the wild Card. Come on, don't be it no
prom John Fowl. I really enjoyed the conversation you gave
me straight answers. I asked you tough questions because I
always make sure that anyone we have on this show,
and I didn't get a chance to talk to you
earlier in the day, are actually actually going to be
(17:33):
of help to my listeners, and that my listeners are
not going to find themselves in some sort of financial trap.
You sounds like a great organization Caring dot Com, and
you sound like a great guy, even though you weren't
the Red Sox manager in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Thanks very much.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Okay, you're a good sport too.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yep, thank you Dan, Thank you John.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
All Right, we come back. Very interesting story. There's going
to be a topless protest this weekend on the Boston Common.
I'll let you know when where, And well, look, I
think it's interesting, I really do. We might even talk
about this at some length tomorrow night, but we're going
to talk with one of the protest organizers of this
(18:14):
Boston rally. Topless protest will take place on the Boston Common,
not at a beach on the Boston Common. It's going
to be in support of what's called gender equality. We'll
be back right after the news at the bottom of
the hour.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
All right, welcome back, Thank you very much to call.
By the way, I just wanted to make mention because
I'm enjoined in our remote studio tonight by a wonderful
dog named Mustard. He's a corgy his grandfather one of
his grandfathers, I guess. And he's a Corgi that was
(18:56):
adopted from a great shelter a year ago. He's a
magnificent dog. And he has sat here with me quietly,
has not barked. I gave him the instructions you can't
bark during the program. He's the Uh, he's his his
parents and my daughter Katie, and my son in law Ted.
Uh and uh. I just am so thrilled that that
(19:17):
Mustard really understand I think he understands what we're talking about.
And maybe Mustard, you should close your ears on this one.
No problem. I want to welcome to a remote studio here.
Uh uh Cassio, Perier Cassio. I hope I pronounced your
first name correctly. Is that the way it goes?
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Yes? Yes, yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Dan, excellent, Okay, Mustard Casio says hi. Uh. Cassio is
the organizer of a rally on the Boston Common which
is going to I guess start at the Embrace Statue,
which is now quite the landmark on the Common and
it's a topless protest to take place Saturday, is it
(20:02):
one o'clock? I believe, yeah, And you're gonna end up
marching up to the state house topless. Normally these sorts
of topless protests take place on beaches. So why this
locale on Saturday?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Very simple? Topless equal right. If men can be topless
in public, women should have the same constitutional rights. Otherwise
men should cover the just.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Okay, so you're looking for gender equality now that there
are probably some men who may may not who are
not in the best shape. Let's put it like that.
So we'll we'll leave that. So I was surprised in
the article that I read that there's a bunch of
states around the country where topless sunbathing is allowed. Is
(21:00):
that correct?
Speaker 6 (21:02):
Yeah, it is correct, But it's not in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Oh no, no, I mean that's that's why you need
the That's why you need the rally. I get that.
But the thing that was was really interesting to me
there was that a lot of those states were sort
of from the heart land there, I think Kansas and Wyoming,
not states that you would think of necessarily as places
where uh, you know, going topless for women, going topless
(21:28):
those wouldn't be the states that would come to mind
initially interestingly enough to do you know what I mean
by that politically?
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Yeah, well, yeah, Massachusetts is a liberal state, right, so
we're able to have the semi constitutional rights as men
and they don't have a beach we do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
this was.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
This said here. According to Equality, men acquired topless freedom
in the nineteen thirties only Wyoming, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico, Kansas,
and Oklahoma. Those are not necessarily liberal communities, along with
some other individual counties and cities, allow full topless equality,
(22:13):
meaning topless women can go topless. How watcher crowd do
you expect of participants? Let's start it off with that
way do you expect on Saturday? And how big a
crowd do you think you would draw of spectators and
supporters either, and some might be both spectators and supporters,
some might just be spectators.
Speaker 6 (22:32):
We have no idea. This is not our first time
in Boston. We usually do it in New York City,
and just some we decided to do it in Boston.
We've been having a lot of media.
Speaker 7 (22:45):
Coverage Boston Globe, The Herald, and other major media for
the States so we hope to have a nice crowd.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Okay, well, look now you're on WBZ, which is the
largest radio station in New England.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
On night side, done in the.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Primetime hours, so I'm sure there's going to be a
lot of people. So it starts at the statue at
one o'clock and then yes, you take a stroll across
the Boston Common. This is a dumb question, but I
have to ask it. Have you been given a permit
for this rally or could the police come and say
(23:27):
you don't have the appropriate permit? Have you sought to
get a permit for the for this rally in March?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
We don't know what to protest, so everybody is allowed
to protest. We didn't know what's going to go that
big either as far as the media coverage, so we
might have a lot of people. We'll see what happens.
But I think it's everybody should be able to have
the right to protest without asking any permission.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Yeah, well, I will tell you that in Boston. That's
one of the ways in which they sometimes try to
shut down these They'll say they'll say, well, you need
to have a permit issued. I'm sure you must have
lawyers or whatever associated with your group. And you may
think about that because you you know, you want to
make you want to have your protest, and I just
it's just a little friendly advice, is what I'm trying
(24:17):
to tell you. You may want to look at. I understand
some people want to say, look, the last the last
thing we want to do is we don't want to
ask permission. I get that, But Boston Common is one
of those areas where sometimes you might you might need
a you might need a permit. Just a little bit
of what a word to the wise. How many of
these protests have you been involved in and in what
(24:38):
other cities and what success and what reaction have you
had from the public at large.
Speaker 6 (24:44):
Cassio Well Go Topless was founded in two thousand and
seven by a rail who is the international spiritual leader
of the Rail movement. And we started protest in New
York City. So since that year, every year we go
(25:06):
to New York City.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
And how have you been received? Have you been welcomed? Oh?
People cheered, you give us, give us a what sort
of reaction you get?
Speaker 4 (25:19):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Yes, yes, it's a big it's a parade that we
have now every year in New York City, which is
actually illegal for women to be topless, But we want
to bring awareness that even if it's legal, many women
don't exercise that right and they don't even know sometimes
it's legal.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
So it's legal in New York City, but probably not
legal in Boston. I don't know if you've ever heard
the phrase benned in Boston, and we have a various
history of Puritanical history. We had blue laws in Boston
where certain things couldn't happen on sun I mean, you know,
(26:00):
Boston has sort of a tradition of being the most
progressive city in terms of these protest of this nature.
Speaker 6 (26:09):
If you get if you get the same yeah, the
same time gay marriage is legal, right.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Oh yeah, and it was one of the one of
the first states, if not the first state. So yes, yeah,
so you know you're right. I mean, maybe maybe your
protest on on Sunday will open up beaches. You know,
they do have Anantucket as I'm sure you know that's now.
I guess a lot on the Nantucket and there are
(26:37):
some other beaches I'm told around Massachusetts where you know,
you can go topless, whether you're a man or a woman. So, uh,
this is your first time in Boston, Cassio or no
have you? Are you familiar with the city?
Speaker 6 (26:56):
So yeah, okay, I wasn't sure.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I thought you might have been a native New Yorker. Okay,
so you are. You're a New Englander, so you know
what's going on. I'm gonna be very interested to see
how well you received. I think you'll be received much
better than perhaps many people might think. So best of
what on Saturday, I hope everybody is absolutely totally respectful
(27:20):
to the people who will be there, and that that
nobody nobody gets out of line, if you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Okay, I think it's gonna go very well.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
I think so, okay, Cassio, Cassio Perier. And if folks
want to get more information in advance of the rally,
is there a website that we can direct them to?
What what what?
Speaker 4 (27:41):
Go?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well, that's a that's pretty simple, Go topless dot org.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
And we have a Facebook page, Instagram and tweet x. Yes.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Okay, so you're you're all up on social media and
they can start with go topless dot org. Cassio. I
enjoyed our conversation. Thanks very much, Thank you for the
shout out from Mustard the Cordy.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
All Right, when we get back, we're going to talk
about four New England jingles from more than a few
years ago. But if you've been around New England for
a while, you're going to know most of these. We're
going to talk with Spencer Buell, who's a writer for
the Boston Globe. I think this next segment will be fun,
something which all of us will stir some some memories.
(28:26):
And maybe you'll be singing these tunes or whistling these
tunes or humming these tunes tomorrow once you hear them
after not that many years back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Right after this, now back to Dan Ray live from
the Window World Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yes, indeed and very comfortable Window World Nightside Studios. And
I'm delighted to welcome Spencer Buell, who writes for the
Boston Globe. Spencer, welcome to Nightside. How are you.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Great?
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Thanks?
Speaker 5 (28:56):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Absolutely I think this is your Nightside dabut you if
I'm not mistaken. And uh, and I'm fascinated by this,
uh this story. What do you do stories on kind
of nostalgic things. Tell us what's what's your not necessarily
your beat, but but what's your area with the Globe.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
Yeah, so my so my beat for the Globe really
is I cover Cambridge in Summerville. We have this newsletter,
the Camberville Newsletter that we uh that we write, that
we put out. My focus is generally on those two cities.
But I also the Globe very kindly lets me branch
out into stuff that I think is really interesting, and
sometimes I write for the Globe magazine and so so
(29:41):
this case, the reason you brought me on here today,
that was a Globe magazine story where I got to
branch out and do something I think is really fun.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Oh, it absolutely is fun. I had a chance to
read it. So, uh, those of us in New England
remember many of these. I think I remember all of them,
but correct me if I'm wrong. But these these were
jingles that were just everywhere in the seventies and eighties,
particularly on television. Is am I am I focusing people
(30:10):
properly when I say it that way.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
Yeah, that's right. I mean we So what we did
was we focused on we really wanted to do a
story about famous New England jingles, and because it's me
writing the story, I you know, I grew up in
Massachusetts and the nineties and two thousands, and that's sort
of where my frame of reference is for a lot
of my favorite jingles, the ones that I really grew
up with. But the thing about a lot of these
(30:34):
New England jingles is a lot of them go back
quite a way, and so they've been on the air
since the eighties, you know, which I will point out
there are a lot of pop stars that would love
to have stayed on the air since the eighties. You know,
there's songs that don't last the summer. And well, let
me go.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Let me go to a couple here, just so people
know what we're talking about. Okay, let us go to
the Giant Glass jingle. Well, I don't know the Giant
Glass is still around, they may be, but this is
cut nineteen. I think everyone who is an adult and
has spent time in New England for the last you know,
thirty or so or more years will recognize this one
(31:14):
Cut nineteen.
Speaker 8 (31:15):
Rob Giant Glass will replace your windshield and give you
a safe drive away time to ensure your car safety.
So called the number more New Englanders trust undred and
fifty four Giant.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Now. I don't know who that announcer was, but what
a great set of radio, old radio pipes he had
deep deep oh yeah pipes. And that jingle's been around.
I haven't heard that one in a while. Is Giant
Glass still in business? Do you know? Or no? It isn't.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
It isn't, so it was bought out by Safe Light,
and Safe Light of course has its own jingle.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
See, I've made a promise to myself. I wasn't going
to sing on the radio. But you know the one
you know that you no I know?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yep, absolutely, Okay, So we got another one here that
I think everybody who is ever skied in New England
would be familiar with. I'm not going to tell people
what it is because as soon as they hear it,
they will know it's cut twenty one rob.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 8 (32:20):
We've got to get rid of that jingle.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (32:22):
That jingle is great?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
The jingle is the best.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
There are a lot of people that won't come up
here because of that jingle.
Speaker 5 (32:27):
Let's have the customer to vote. Hey, let's set up
a ballot box.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Up in the front.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
One for saving it and one for losing.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Let the people decide cool democracy lose.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Mota. Oh yeah, now look, aunt what chusets is still around?
I don't know if that jingle is still being employed
by the by the owners of more chuse It's what's
the history there, Stephen. But they apologize.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
So they So they loved their jingle. They've been using
it for many years now. They they do still very
much use it. The story with that one, I love
that all of these have like a have a backstory,
and this one, this one definitely does. So this was
like around around nineteen ninety. They didn't have a jingle yet,
but they had these billboards all up and down the
(33:23):
mouse pike. And somebody's driving up and down the mouse
pike and they see the watch who said billboard while
they're listening to an old nineteen sixties dance hit called
the wah wah Tu see. Yes, I have to be
honest with you. I to be honest with you. I
did not know the wa wa su see, but a
lot of people did.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
I did, I did. I never did it, but it
was but as a young child, I remember the wa
tu see. Yes, remember the rest? Yes?
Speaker 5 (33:48):
So so here I am dating myself again as like
a guy in his thirties who my references the nineties.
I grew up with wah wah choose it, not the
wawa tu see. But anyways, this guy hears it and
he pitches it to the watch use of people. He
just he records it himself and brings it to the
watch juset Mountain and says, this has got to be
your jingle. And at first they didn't like it. They're
(34:09):
like to goofy, I don't know, let me hear it again.
And by the third time they heard it, they said
it was like, this has to be it. This is
this is our jingle going forward. And they've kept it
the whole time. They said that people it's so recognizable
that sometimes all they do in their commercials is they
just play those first three notes, the bump bump bump.
When people know it's what use it, They're like, they
(34:30):
don't even have to say watch you said anymore?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
We got two more. Here here's one that I think
everybody This one, of course, wa war two sits is
a winter jingle. This is a summer jingle cut number
twenty two rub when the sun and the sun gets
hot a very see me but has some fun boy.
(34:55):
I'll tell you a lot of people know that that one.
That is for sure. I think that might have been
around even for a guy in his thirties.
Speaker 5 (35:04):
Absolutely, that was. That one dates back to nineteen eighty four.
So guy, the guy who recorded that, this guy named
Tom Roussel, and at the time, he was like a
Berkeley grad who was looking for work in music. He
was doing all these playing all these gigs everywhere, taking
lessons like kind of it's not always easy to make
a living as a musician. And one of the gigs
that he had was writing jingles for small businesses. In
(35:26):
one day, he gets you know, he gets a request
from a local water park to do a jingle, and
so he puts it together. He writes it in about
three days, which is how long he had to do
it to write it, record it with a bunch of musicians.
The song goes out there and it stayed on the
radio for forty years. Just pretty remarkable. But this guy,
remember he's just working as a freelancer. So he was
(35:48):
paid a one time feet four hundred bucks and that
was it. You know, de root is not Tom.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, forty years, four hundred bucks. That works out to
what's it like ten bucks a years when you do
the math. Okay, last, but not least one that all
of us remember. And this is a company. I'm not
sure if they got bought or not, but they were.
They were everywhere. This is cut twenty three rob Bernie
(36:19):
and feels. It's all about the furniture and it's all
that beautiful customer quality becom in price. That's nice. Yeah,
that's nice. Are they still around? You know, I haven't
bought furniture a number of years.
Speaker 5 (36:42):
So they are still family owned by the Rubens family.
Bernie of Bernie and Phil's sadly passed a few years ago,
but the family is still running it. So it's now
the third generation is now at the helmet that thing,
which is which is pretty cool. So the thing with
this jingle is that they had it for many years too.
But in the twenty ten's, like around twenty fourteen, I
(37:04):
think it was they decided that they were going to
get rid of the jingle. They think that people were
getting sick of it, and then it was sending kind
of the wrong message that it was like, well, you know,
we're we do more than just sell an expensive furniture.
We got good stuff here, so they got rid of
the jingle, but people were calling for it. They missed it.
They really wanted the nostalgia Bernie and Phil, who they loved,
(37:26):
you know, they're sort of like New England's grandparents.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
And so the grandkids now at the home of the
company said we want to bring it back, and so
the jingle is back. It lives on.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
You would call that, they would call that back by
popular demand, literally exactly right. That's great, that's right, Spencer.
This was a great topic, a lot of fun for us.
Whenever you have something that you'd like to talk about,
which this was in the Golob magazine last week. I
was in Europe last week. That's I got to go
(37:59):
read it. Was it in last week? Was it coming up?
Speaker 5 (38:03):
It's coming out on Sunday, So it's on. You can
get it online now or you can pick it up
in you get it delivered or pick it up in
print form on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Well, I will be reading it on Sunday afternoon, that
is for sure, Spencer. Great to make your acquaintance, and
I hope we get the cafe come back soon with
another very interesting and fun topic. Spencer Buell, The Boston Globe.
Speaker 5 (38:27):
Thank you so much, Spencer, thanks so much for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
You bet you we come back. We're going to be
talking about a little politics here and some unease within
Jewish voters about the vice presidential pick and maybe even
the presidential nominee of the Democratic Party. I'll explain with
Jeff Robbins, who himself is a very committed Democrat, but
(38:52):
he has some concerns. Although there's no way, if you
know Jeff Robbins, he's ever gonna crossover and vote for
Donald Trump. I will explain it all right after the
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