September 3, 2024 • 40 mins
Gary Tanguay filled in on NightSide:
Where do we stand in Massachusetts with the current EEE threat?
Samantha Gross of the Boston Globe joined on how voter turnout was in the Bay State's primary election.
Then, Boston College upsets Florida State University! Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe joined Gary to discuss!
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio!
Where do we stand in Massachusetts with the current EEE threat?
Samantha Gross of the Boston Globe joined on how voter turnout was in the Bay State's primary election.
Then, Boston College upsets Florida State University! Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe joined Gary to discuss!
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio!
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I cannot wait. I cannot wait for September tenth. Cannot wait.
Oh my god, this is gonna be mussy TV. And
I swear to god, you don't even have to be
into politics, you really don't. You do not have to
be in the politics to want to see this. This
is going to be incredible. This is going to be
(00:29):
a phenomenal debate. Unbelievable. I'm gonna I have some comments
on this coming up. I am like a caddickt Christmas.
I have no idea and if I look both candidates,
by the way, I'm Gary Tagway. If it didn't Y
Nicole mentioned that, thank you very much. I appreciate that
Dan is off this week. This is Nightside here until
twelve midnight. I'll run down the show for you in
(00:50):
just a minute here. But when the announcement came down
that September tenth is gonna be the debate, it's going
to be in Philadelphia. You can listen to it here
in WBZ Boston's news radio. You can also catch it
on the iHeart mobile app, which you should have you
on your phone. I mean, if you don't. I don't
really understand why not. But the iHeart mobile ops tremendous.
(01:16):
I just can't wait to see these two go at
it a Vice President Harrison former President Donald Trump, and
I know they It's so funny to me. It's so
comical that Trump's party, or at Trump's people, they want
the rules, right, I mean, they want the rules they
(01:38):
want Okay, this is this is the deal. Trump announced
on truth Social that he has accepted the September tenth
debate on ABC under the same conditions of the June
CNN debate. So here are the rules. Microphone will only
be turned on when it is there turned to speak.
(02:01):
Wait a minute, I thought this is probably Trump's people
talking to try to protect him from himself, because if
he leaves the microphone on, he's gonna blow it. He's
just he won't be able to control himself. Also, no
studio audience, which I think sucks. You have to have
(02:21):
a studio audience for a debate. Come on, you gotta.
I think they should do it like the price is right,
and I think they should have an announcer. Donald Trump,
come on down, Kamala Harris, come on down. You have
to have a studio audience. You have to have some juice.
(02:42):
Maybe he could have some celebrities, you know in the audience,
various people. Jennifer Lopez. Hey, Jennifer Lopez is here today.
She's in the audience. Uh, what else here?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
The candidates are not allowed to talk to their staff
during breaks, that's fine, or bring any with them, that's fine.
They can only have a pen and a pad and
a bottle of water. Is that just one bottle of water?
Is that just one o? You only allowed one bottle
of robber water? H The consumer of entertainment wants the
(03:21):
mics turned on. If you want to see a bleep show,
if you want to see just a twenty five car
pile up on a stage, you want the mics on.
You do you want these two to go at it?
If you want to be reasonable, if you want to
(03:42):
be a person of education, if you want to be
a little high brow, you want the microphones off. I
love it. You know in the past when Harris Well,
she did it in the past vice president vice presidential debates, right,
which is a sir, mister vice president, I'm speaking, mister
vice president. I'm speaking. Here's the thing with Harris and
(04:07):
she was okay with CNN and Dana Bass, she was okay.
The problem is Harris sometimes isn't forceful enough when she
says something. I mean, I said this last night. Rob
Brooks is with us back. Rob, good to see you
again on the other side of the window. I'm sure
you are listening on your night off. If you were,
you have a problem. But Donald Trump will say garbage
(04:32):
tastes great with peanut butter when the sky is pink,
and people will go absolutely because he says it with
such enthusiasm and such conviction. I do believe that Vice
President Harris is trying to be correct, but sometimes she
waffles in what she's saying. She stumbles a little bit,
(04:53):
she thinks about it. Let's face it, when it comes
to the presidential election, why worry about being right? Why
worry about being accurate? It doesn't matter because the guy
that's never been accurate got elected and he continues to
be in the race, and he still may win. So
(05:15):
when you look at the score sheets and it won't
even bother anymore. You know, the fact checks when Trump speaks,
I mean, it's a mile long. Nobody cares if you're
gonna vote for Trump. You're going to vote for Trump,
whether he has thirty misfacts if you will, or lives
or whatever you want to call it, on a list nobody.
(05:35):
It's not going to change anybody's mind, Like all of
a sudden, somebody's not going to look at them and say, oh,
you got that wrong. I'm gonna vote for him. It's
not gonna happen. And when they've done a fact check
with Vice President Harris and I will admit that I
haven't looked at every one of them. But this is
a couple of things, you know, like you know, there's
(05:56):
a gray area. I think there was a fact check
after the C and N interview, and there was a
couple of things that maybe she wasn't exact on, but
she was in the neighborhood, not like not like Trump.
I mean, it's just he just doesn't care. And you
know something, why should Donald Trump care? The facts don't
matter and he still could be president again, so he's
(06:20):
gonna keep doing what he's doing. If the microphones stay on,
I think she will destroy Trump. And that's what he's
worried about. If the microphones stay on, she destroys Trump.
You know why, because that's when she's at her best.
I'll tell you right now. And this is what I
(06:41):
thought the problem with Secretary of State Clinton was. And
Hillary Clinton is a brilliant woman. We all know that,
and there was there was just a misconnection. She didn't
connect with women in some areas. I think Kamala Harris
connects with women. I think Kamala Harris connects with her
(07:02):
bas big time. I think she's increased the base quite frankly,
with the brats and the young Democrats and people who
are now going to vote that weren't even thinking about
voting for the two old geezers before. And I think
that's going to be the difference. I mean, if you said,
right now, Tangue, what's going to happen, I'll say, I
think Harris is gonna win. And I think it's going
to be because of the young people who turn out.
That's what I think is gonna I think it's gonna
(07:23):
be close as hell. Do I know she's gonna be
a good president. I have no idea. I have no idea.
I mean, look, Trump had the job, he's more qualified
than her, right if he had the job, already, nobody
trusts him. I mean, he's out of his mind. I
don't know if she can do it. She was picked
(07:44):
as a vice president, you know, with Joe Biden, probably
because they wanted to appeal to certain sections that Joe
Biden wouldn't appeal to. And now she's going to be president.
I don't think this was anybody's plan, but that's what
happens a lot. I mean, look, Harry Truman, we talked
about it last night. Vice presidents or people who became
(08:05):
great presidents and surprise people, and Harris could be one
of them because this is what she does well, and
this is why she was I think successful as a
prosecutor is if she gets pissed off, she will go
for the jugular with him. We've seen it before when
she tries to be smart and intelligent and keep the
gloves on I shouldn't say intelligent. When she keeps the
gloves on. When she tries to play nice and is
(08:29):
very cautious with her words, that's when she gets in trouble.
When she gets passionate about something, that's when she's awesome.
So my advice to Kamala Harris would be, don't think,
just go after him. Don't think, just do. I think
(08:49):
it is going to be fantastic television. It is going
to be fantastic television. And I hope there's more than one.
I don't know if they could squeeze them all in.
I mean, Kenny, what we got, what the hell are Yeah?
Maybe you could do another one in thirty days. I'm
gonna be glued to the TV man. I mean, this
(09:10):
is gonna be to meet from me watching Kamala Harris
and Donald Trump go out and the presidential election will
be like watching. It's gonna be Sunday at one or
Monday night football or the NBA Finals. I cannot wait
for this. I think it's gonna be awesome. And if
(09:31):
they leave the mics on, she will shred him, shred him,
That's what I think. That's why he wants the mics off.
So if you want the show, keep the mics on.
If you want an intellectual conversation, boring, keep them off.
(09:54):
All right, Coming up here on wc's Night, said Gary
Tankway from the again for Dan Ray. Chris Bauer, who
is one of my favorite actors. You may not know
the name, but you know the shows he's been in
Frank from the Wire, He's in The Gemstones, I'm sorry,
not the Jemstones. The Gemstones was last night. He's in
Eels as wild Bill. He's a terrific actor, has been
(10:18):
in a number I mean, he's got one hundred and
six credits. It's phenomenal, just absolutely phenomenal. So True Blood
was in True Blood played the drug addicted sheriff. So
he's going to join us coming up at ten o'clock.
And I love to give attention to actors who deserve it,
you know, like the Michael Mallleys of the world or
the Donnie Wahlbergs of the world, who are phenomenal character actors.
(10:43):
And Bauer is right there, and my friend the freak
from the Left Coast, mister Moderate Sam Metha, joins us
at ten o'clock. He's got a lot to say about
both sides of the aisle with this. Coming up next,
Samantha Gross is going to join us from the Boss Globe.
Why the hell should we did something happen today? Politically
(11:03):
in mass was there an elect did something happen? She's
going to tell us next on wbz's Nightside.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Gary tagway for tonight. There was something going on politically today.
Samantha Gross is going to join us here from the
Boston Globe.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And the primaries in which well, as one would expect
that the Democrats many people running out of post. Nonetheless,
Samantha got the assignment from the Globe. Samantha fill us in,
how was it today? How was it? Was this the
easiest gig ever?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It definitely was quieter than than other elections I've covered.
But yeah, there there was a primary election you know
today across the state in Massachusetts, believe it or not,
and there were some interesting races to follow. But it definitely,
you know, was a quieter, quiet cycle for primaries than
in the past.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Let's talk about that and we'll get it to this how
I want your opinion, or at least shed some light
on those other races that are imported. But obviously Elizabeth Warren,
I mean that she's the big name, she's running an
opposed and there are three Republicans competing today and the
results and yet I'm not even sure I was just
checking they're not.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Some precincts are reporting, but it's a really low percentage,
so it's really hard to say, but yeah, you know,
there are three Republicans that were running, you know, to
hopefully compete against Senator Elizabeth Warren in November. Bob antonellis
who's an engineer, Ian Kayan has a Quincy City Council president,
and John Deeton is an attorney.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Now, now Deeton, this was interesting. I read in your
column or your article that Deeton moved from Rhode Island
to Massachusetts to run for office. I mean that's what
I assume he did, and he was considered the front runner,
and I think that's unique. I mean, he's a carpentbagger
kind of right.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
It's interesting. Yeah, he doesn't have a long history in Massachusetts,
but he does have the best funded campaign. He loaned
himself a million dollars, so you know, money goes far.
You can put out a lot more advertisements, you know,
send bigger mailers and have a bigger presence. So it'll
be interesting to see, you know, how much money plays
a role in that campaign.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Did they have a shot at putting a dent in Warren?
I mean putting a dent? She said, damn popular, and
she's a force.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, it's it's it's difficult. She's She's really popular in
Massachusetts and the state, you know, writ large is just
very deep blue, and so you know it'll be interesting.
I think that it's raised, you know, some awareness about
kind of cryptocurrency, which has been a really big talking
point for a lot of the folks in this race,
specifically Ian Kane and John Deaton. But you know, we'll
(13:47):
see because what.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
With crypto, Because what's the deal with crypto? Because I
know friends of mine that have had it. I stay
away from it. I mean, I do well to handle
dollar and sense what's the issue there? What are they
what are they looking to push it?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, well, you know, Elizabeth Warren has been one of
the biggest kind of vocal you know, uh just critical
critic uh critics of blockchain and cryptocurrency. That's been a
long day. And you know Ian Kane he co founded
a blockchain technology company. You know, John Deaton has has
put money towards crypto, and so I think it's kind
(14:21):
of just been you know, a piece of Warren's reputation
that they've been able to kind of latch onto because
it is really popular and you know, there's a lot
of money in those communities to to boost those campaigns.
Do you have, Crypto, I personally do not afgre why
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You know why? You know why Smith, Because we don't
have enough money. That's why. I mean people that I have.
I have a friend of mine that is loaded. I
mean now I'm talking loaded, Yes, Crypto. You know why,
because if it goes south, he's still okay. You know,
That's the way I look at it. I mean, if
you get involved in that stuff, you better have enough
(15:01):
in the in the war chest, you know when I
head south to be able to handle it. I was
also reading reading today that the Governor's Council is what
fourteen people running for the chindig and what did they do?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah? Yeah, the Governor's Council is one of the buzzier races.
You know, there's a lot of folks running for a
couple of seats on the Governor's Council. They do kind
of you know, it's obscure, but they do important things.
You know, they confirm judges. They you know, they review
pardon recommendations from the governor. You know, things that have
(15:38):
a lot of sway in the state. But yeah, a
lot of people don't know what they do. A lot
of people don't even know who their governor's counselor is.
But yes, it's become a buzzy racist cycle for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well you got some juice with it, I mean because
when I read it when they said that the pardons,
and I think you can probably elaborate on this more
than me. They're a number of different pardons, correct, I
mean we're not necessarily talking about somebody that's good pardons
for being wrongly corrected, for a capital motor or something
like that, convicted, I should say. But you know, if
(16:10):
you have the ability to pardon someone at a number
of levels, that's a very powerful position.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah, and they're also in politically charged you know, these
this is these are recommended, you know, by the governor
and so you know, depending on the administration, it can
look really different, and so they operate pretty you know,
in relative obscurities, I think the way how we framed
it in our story. But they do have a lot
of power, yeah, when it comes to pardons, and yeah,
judicial nominees who obviously you know, play a really important
(16:39):
role in our communities across Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, I mean, especially when you talk about the judicial nominees,
because I've known a lot of lawyers and attorneys, and
they love the judge. Ship man, you're on the back nine,
get them out a bench and they can just cruise.
You know. I had a friend of mine. It was
actually a judge. I don't know if I should be
surn or not. He was brilliant, a brilliant man. And
(17:04):
I said to him, how how do you do it? Sometimes?
How do you like listen to all of this all
day long? Said? Sometimes I balance my check book while
I'm listening. Sometimes I lift my feet off the floor
so I don't fall asleep. And I said, wow, man,
that's crazy. But the guy was brilliant, so I mean
he could. He could. He was certainly well prepared. They're like,
balance his check book and listen to a court case.
(17:26):
Anything else interesting today, any other nugget or something you
could share with us?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, there's not a lot
of competitive races for the state House. You know, I'm
Beacon Hill in the legislature, but there are a few
incumbent facing challengers, and that doesn't happen super often.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I'm actually sitting right now in the parking lot of
Marjorie Decker, who's a Cambridge Democrat running for state Rep.
I'm at her her party and her her campaign has
been really interesting because she's a long time in combent.
She's been in you know, the legislature for decades, and
she is facing a challenger for the first time in
in several years from a really young graduate student. I'm
(18:06):
his union organizer, Evan McKay, and they've focused their campaign
really around, you know, legislative efficiency and let the lack
of transparency and Beacon Hell, which has become you know,
has gotten a lot of attention, you know, in this
past legislative session. So that's one that I'm watching personally
because I've been covering that race. But there are a
bunch of state reps, or a bunch there's in the
(18:29):
team state reps and senators that are that are being challenged,
and I'll be watching those races just because you know,
there's one hundred and sixty a reps and forty senators
and very few of them get challenged, so that's kind
of a dynamic.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I'm keeping a close eye on Samantha Gross's whether us
at the Boston Globe. She's covering the primaries today. The
thing I find fascinating about Massachusetts is that while it
is a blue state, we've had Republican governors. You know,
we're Mitt Romney, who was a really nice guy and
him compared to Trump, the dude a liberal, you know,
(19:07):
Paul Salucci. Uh, you know, we've had William Weld. I
think it was a Republican at the time before. Why
is that? Do you have any idea why that happens?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I mean, that kind of brand of moderate conservatism was
really you know, that was like a marquee for Massachusetts
for a long time. Obviously, the party has changed a
lot under you know, it's various leadership. I know you
guys have probably covered this of you know, some of
the tumults within the Massachusetts GOP, and so they don't
(19:39):
have that big tent reputation anymore. I think they're trying
to rebuild that. But yeah, they you know, have alienated
a lot of those moderate conservatives after calling I think
they called you know, Charlie Baker rhino at the time
when he when he didn't vote for Trump anyway, So
I think like the brand has deteriorated a little bit.
But yeah, we do have a history of having conservative
(20:02):
governors or I guess you know, moderate.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Governors, conservative governors that are reasonable, you know, I mean
just reasonable. I mean, look, what reason's gone out the window?
I mean we all know that it's it's it's Banana's,
but Charlie Baker's another one. Just you know, a reasonable
situation or somebody you could have a conversation with, somebody
that you may disagree with, but you're not gonna call
(20:27):
each other names, and you can have a conversation with
But you're right, I mean, that's that's not the same.
Even Scott Brown. I remember when Scott Brown won, you
know that pulled off that upset and Scott was a
moderate as well, and he had a pickup truck and
people like that. So, hey, do you have any my
opening comment I talked about the the debate coming up
(20:49):
on the tenth, and I assume you're a It sounds
to me like you're a political junkie. That's why you're
doing what you're doing. I cannot wait for Harris Trump
ding ding, sound the bell, let's go take the gloves off.
What do you think about this?
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yeah, I'm definitely interested to see. I mean, it's it's
a first so I think you know, all eyes will
be on the two of them. Both campaigns have been
really active. You know, in recent weeks, Vice President has
is launching her Reproductive Freedom bus tour that's going, you know,
around the country right now. I know that it kicked off,
I think today in Palm Beach, near near Donald Trump's home.
(21:31):
And you know, meanwhile, you know, Trump lawyers are are
in court trying to help proceedings in his criminal case.
And yeah, it's just it'll I don't know, it'll be
really interesting. I'm really curious to hear what they have
to stand one of the big issues. And yeah, it's
you know, there's been so much change in that race
lately that yeah, it'll be interesting to see it kind
(21:53):
of form on stage on the tent.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Oh my god. I mean on CNN tonight they were
talking about different stratu geez and one of the strategies was,
you know, and we've heard this, the prosecutor against the convict,
you know, but the strategy was she needs to act
like a prosecutor, like she's going after him, the criminal.
And I'm like, oh my god, what is this. This
is the presidency of the United States. We've lost our minds.
(22:19):
We've lost our freaking minds. Thank you very much Samantha
for joining us. Great job, Thanks for filling us into
what was going on today with the primary Samantha Gross
of the Boston Globe, Best of luck, talk to you
again soon. Thanks for having me, all right, Samantha, good job.
So there you have it. There you have it, folks.
(22:41):
Shaughnessy's coming up in eight forty five. Boston College, Boston College,
go get them. Billy O'Brien, the BC egos pulling up
a huge upset over SSU Florida State University. Does this
mean college football is going to be back at the
heights because we're not a college town. We all know that.
(23:03):
But there have been periods in BC's history, whether it
be Doug Flutie or Matt Ryan, where we wanted to
follow BC and flute was the big thing because he
was a local guy from Natick.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You know, we know that.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And Billy O'Brien's a local guy, went to Brown North
andover love that guy. Good for him. That's all coming
up at eight forty five, and coming up next, I
have some thoughts on why we should all be wearing
long pants on WBC's Nightside.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You're on the Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Dan Shaughnessy joins us, coming up in about ten minutes
talking about BC let's hear it for the Eagles man
the Heights and they went on the road. They won
on the road against Florida State. The Eagles are back. Baby,
Dad's gonna talk about that. Coming up at eight five.
I'm as I get older, I have become such an alarmist.
(24:06):
And I think that's just the way it is. When
you're eighteen, you're nineteen, you're invincible, you're twenty. Nothing's gonna
hurt me. Not a little mosquito. Oh no, not a
little insect. That's not gonna bother me. If they try
to take some blood out of me, I'm just gonna
smack it. But with this West now virus situation, it
(24:30):
scares the hell out of me, It really does. It
scares the hell out of me. WYV risk levels in
the following area of communities raised too high. Sagas in
Essex County, Arlington, Belmont, Malden, Medford, Melrose, Middlesex, Middlesex County,
I should say Chelsea, Revere, Revere, Winthrop in Suffolk County.
(25:00):
I get a first hand frost nothing like a good
frost unless you leave the plants out, and you still
get stuff in the garden. While the temperatures may be
a bit cooler, September is still within the peak time
for West NOOW virus activity in Massachusetts, said Public Health
Commissioner Robbie Goldstein, who was an MD and a PhD.
(25:22):
So this is serious stuff. It really is. And my
family looks at me a little weird because I mean,
I'm wearing shorts now, but I'm in a studio and
I walked ten feet in my car. But even if
it was hot out, I'd taken the dogs for a walk.
I do the long sleeves, I do the pants, I
do the socks. Even the other night, I said, let's
stay in. Let's not go, let's not sit on the
(25:43):
back porch. Let's just stay in and take it easy here,
because as we have seen, this has resulted in some
tragedy strat excuse me, tragedy as I attempted to be dramatic,
and tragic deaths. I mean, we know that I feel terrible.
I mean, how bad is that You're going about your
(26:06):
business and you get a mosquito bite. You don't think
anything's wrong. I mean, that's just terrible. It's haunting, feel
awful for that family. Terrible, terrible, terrible. One man in
his fifties exposed in Suffolk County, the other man in
his eighties exposed in southern Middlesex County, and we know
there was a fatality in New Hampshire. So folks, put
(26:28):
on the long sleeves at night, use the bug spray,
get out the deet, get on the socks, put on
the long pants. Even if it's a little warm. We
still have some warm days ahead. You know me, If
you need to do the shorts of the T shirt,
you can maybe do it in the morning when there's
a light breeze, but still put on the repellence. I
(26:49):
know I sound like your father here, but do it. Absolutely,
do it. All right, Rob, We're gonna break a little
older because I got Dan Shaughnessy coming in and we're
going to talk about the re energized BC Eagles at
the Heights with a former Patriot coach that is making
it happen. It's all coming up on WBC's Nightside. Gary
(27:10):
Tangway for Denray.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Now back to Danray Live from the Window World Light
Side Studios on WBZ News video.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
BC's back, baby, It's awesome. It's all. Look, this is
not a college football town. We all know it. Dan
Shaughnessy joining me, my friend here from the Boston Globe.
The Boston College Eagles pulled off a mammoth upset. I mean, Danny,
they were like sixteen and a half point underdogs. They
come out on the road at Florida State University and
they take him to the woodshed. How about that? That
(27:40):
was something. It was fun. I mean, when BC's good,
it's fun, right.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That was really impressive.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I tuned in and I'm not a big college football
dog like most people who live here. I know, the
reach of the program that you're anchoring here is is
very vast and goes to many places that are college
football towns and areas, and we just don't happen.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
To be one pro town.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
But that was for BC, I mean, about as good
as it's gotten the last forty years. I mean, it
was really an impressive, impressive win. As you say, you know,
on the road, sixteen and a half point dogs win
by fifteen, and you know, now you look ahead. I
mean they've they've got Michigan State coming in here in
two or three weeks, and that's the week before Michigan
State plays Ohio States, so maybe they'll catch them nap.
(28:22):
And I everybody just got a lot more serious about BC.
I think seeing them on their schedule now it's something
for the ACC to have a team that's that's kind
of a sleeper in the overall picture of it.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
So yeah, like you say, it was a good moment
and good for them, Well we're.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Going to need it because the Patriots are just you know,
it's not good. I mean, it's just not good. Which
I'll get to that in a minute. Which as far
as I'm concerned, that's fine. We've had an amazing run.
We'll let Kansas City and the other other teams have
their fun right now, because it was a tremendous run
for us, as you know. But I also like the
way they win the game because there was a running
(29:00):
game involved. It wasn't just simply Madden Football.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Right, They were doing a lot between the tackles's kind
of going straight at them. And really in Florida State,
and again I don't follow this like a lot of
your audience, I suppose, but the Florida State, man, what's
the story they lose to Georgia Tech. They're still ranked
tenth in the country. There's only one team, and they're
at home, and the quarterback just looked really bad. I
(29:26):
just couldn't believe it was missing open guys and not
just taking anything away from what BC did. And you know,
Bill O'Brien, I mean, good on them, but I just
was surprised at the ineptitude that team last year. You know,
there was a lot of noise about them at the
end with their defeated record and why aren't they in
the mix here and this and that and and it's
turned out I don't know a little bit of fraudulents
(29:46):
going on there. But as you say, Gary, you know
we're not a college town.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
And I can tell you I remember distinctly.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
It's funny you bring up about the Patriots being bad,
and so maybe BC and fill that gap a little
bit because because a long time ago two thousand and seven,
BC was ranked second in the country in football for
two weeks and that was the Matt Ryan era, right,
and they really had it going. And I think O'Brien
was still the coach then, and this was like in October.
(30:16):
It wasn't early, it was in the middle, Virginia Tech
beat them to get them off the number two perch.
But so in our town they're number two in the country.
And I'm telling you, no one was aware of this.
And here's why Red Sox won the World Series. In
October of two thousand and seven, the Patriots were going
eighteen and oh on their revenge tour. Kevin Garnett had
(30:36):
just come on to the Celtics in the Watford Deal
and they were beginning a championship run for the two
thousand and seven to eight Celtics, And you had the
number two football team in America and no one was
aware of it, and it just sort of.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Came and went. So that's our town.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
And I don't you know, radio shows like the one
you're doing and the all sports talk shows in our
town they don't the college guest, whether it's basketball, football,
they just don't get the audience or they don't get
any kind of conversation going the way it would anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Well, I think the connection is there has to be
a local tie. Now we can go back to cowboy
Jack mcnell, who coached at the University of Maine, and
it was just a sweet guy with the cowboy boots
and played the guitar and loved his country music. And
Doug Flutie of course, right Fluty Media was a native kid,
a local kid, you know. When you look at that
(31:29):
team you talked about, were coached Tom O'Brien, and I
remember talking to him, nice man, but he was also
a little frustrated. He didn't really understand the ways of
the world here. That BC is almost it's like a
and I don't want to be insulting, but it's it's
(31:53):
like a gem. It's like every once in a while,
if you have the right personalities attached to the program,
people will get behind it. For a while, when Al
Skinner was coaching with the basketball team, Jimmy O'Brien with
the basketball team, Jerry Yorke again local guy with the
hockey team, and that team you mentioned with Tom O'Brien,
you know the quarterback. He's great. Ryan's a great kid.
(32:15):
He was from New York. O'Brien was a military guy,
came out of Virginia. There was no connection, you know,
And that's why I wanted to talk about this tonight
because of Billy O'Brien. Now, you and I both covered
him when he was with the Patriots. This guy went
to Brown. He's got a North Andover. He had the
(32:35):
he had the impossible job of working with Brady after
Josh left. We all know when Billy got in a
fight with Tom on the sidelines. I'm rooting for Billy O'Brien.
I'm just rooting for the guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
No, that makes a lot of sense, and he's you know,
this could be a perfect fit.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I mean you always wonder if the guys has found
a home and given his age, as you point out,
his local roots, and he's done a lot in the NFL.
I mean, you know when the Houston Texans had it going,
you know he was. He was all there for that,
and then the offensive coordinator for the Patriots and the
last Penn.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
State he turned Penn State around. I mean, Danny, I
mean Penn State was coming out of it. I remember
when he took the Penn State gig. I don't know
if you remember this, but Belichick I was talking to
somebody I can't hell him and a Benzoe or something,
you know, who knows, but like Belichick told him, you
take that Penn State job because it was after the
whole you know, uh, pedophilia scandal, I mean just terrible,
(33:31):
and people didn't want the job, you know, and paternal
I think it passed away. I mean it was just
the thing was in the dumps and people told him
to take it and he did and it was actually
the right move for him.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yep, you know it was.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
I mean, they had they had way more success quickly
than anybody thought they would or could given what he
walked into. And that's absolutely true. And you know, another
another great part of his resume. And that's why I
wonder if you know, there's only one game in, but
this this would have been a good day to renegotiate
because I mean, he looks like a guy that you
(34:05):
want to keep and and build around because it's been
it's been tough sledding over there for quite some time,
as you know, and uh, and this would be a
you know, this could be a game changer for the
for the school's football program, which is just you know,
it's just been a while and and you know, going
back to it was not him, but last year there
was that everybody kind of laughed.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
At the Wasabi Bowl and that was sort of a tell.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
It was at Fenway Park in December on a Wednesday
morning and was raining and it was a horrible day
and there was no one in the lower bowl of
Fenway of the stands, and and they they they took
it to SMU, which was you know, they had been
a ranked team and and came here and just lost
their way. BC took it to him. So it was
something to work with, uh with with the changeover of coaches.
(34:51):
And now he's come in and he's like, hey, why
can't we be good at football?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Well, I think he's the key. I agree with you.
I think look, we all remember flute Mania and I'll
ask you to remind on that and just a little bit.
But he again a local guy. Coach Tom Brady, coach
of the Patriots, did a very good job with Houston,
as you mentioned, turnpen State around. But he's one of us,
and I think that that's why it's going to work.
(35:16):
And you're right, this is probably he's a little bit older. Now,
why would he want to go anywhere else? And if
BC is smart, you keep him here for like five years.
Just do it. Because Dan, I don't know about you,
but I can't keep up with college football the conferences.
I died a big twenty four and you know the
Pac eighteen and that's gone now and everything is all
(35:38):
over the road. So you know, it's it's very hard
unless you're Alabama or Georgia, it's very hard to be relevant.
And you know, this is the guy that could, This
is the guy that could make them relevant.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Yeah, it's you know, it's such a tall order in
this region. But he can make he can make them.
I just don't know when you're a college coach in
twenty twenty four, how you hold onto your talent, you know,
with the nil money and guys you know, with barcodes
in the back of their helmets, and you know.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Everybody's available to transfer.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
If they don't like the way things are, they're in
the portal and they're gone. And I don't know how
fans you know, and even in thee die in the
wool college regions. How do you stay behind this when well,
hell and basketball, you got a whole new team coming
in every year, four or five new starters every year
because of what went down in football. It's just everything's
for sale and I have a hard time getting behind it.
(36:35):
I mean, it's great for the betters, it's great TV programming.
It's great for fantasy And you know, America was got
a wake up call last weekend when college football getting going.
Here we go and everybody's into it.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I have a hard time getting into it.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
And to me, I don't know why anyone would want
to coach it because just of holding on to your
people and the recruiting and the travel and just keeping
people on board. I mean, it's as you say, the
landscape of college football is just impossible to track anymore.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
UCLA is flying like around the world this year.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You know, it's crazy to.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Do their schedule. It's crazy, and it's just like, it's
what is that?
Speaker 5 (37:10):
And I might mention Miami of Florida their tight end.
He caught a touchdown pass over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
It's his ninth year.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
At college football, played Blueto, seven years of college down
the dream and he finally caught a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
It's no, it's crazy. Basketball I think has really been
hurt because the Yukon teams with Danny Hurley, they were
fun to watch, but I mean, come on, I mean,
you know, they're nothing compared to what we've seen in
the past with great college championship teams and it's because
of the player movement.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, you don't. You don't have a kid, You get
a kid for a year, he goes somewhere else for years.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Well that's the coaches, you know, now, you know, that's
maybe where Billy O'Brien can It's kind of like the
Big with the way the Big East used to be
for basketball, where it was all about the coaches. You know,
maybe if you stick with your coach and you go
play for a coach, whether it's Kirby down in Georgia,
you know, or over to Alabama, or maybe somebody wants
to play for O'Brien here. You know, maybe that's the
(38:09):
way it goes. I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
It's it's like Charlie Baker's running the NC Double A
and he's not gonna lose a lot of sleepover because
it is unfixable. But it's changes every week every.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
It's just I can't keep up with it. But this
was a good start. CBC do what they did, and
everybody around.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Here is a little bit more into it as they
go into their second third week.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Danny, it's always great to talk to you, my friend,
have a good night. Thanks for coming on anytime, all right,
Buddy Dance Chaughnessy columnists of the Boston Globe. One of
the great ones who has seen it all. He has
seen it all. I great Dan Shaughnessy's story. Two thousand
and four Red Sox they sweep the Saint Louis Cardinals.
(38:54):
I'm outside the team hotel. Players are getting on the
bus and Danny goes for a run. Danny comes back
from a jog, and we all know Dan was like,
you know, the curse of the Bambino, I mean, just
the keeper of the gate. But Danna Stowe has been
like the keeper of Boston sports. He really has been,
and he has not lost his fastball by any stretch
(39:16):
of the imagination. He's still a phenomenal read. And I
mean there he just says, now it's not the same anymore.
They won, it's just not as much fun. And in
a way he was right, you know, I mean, the
curse was over, the charm was gone. They were winners.
And seven they went on and they won again, swept
the Rockies, and they just weren't the lovable losers anymore.
(39:39):
And it look for guys like me and Dad, you know,
we've had our day. We're all older. The game used
to be enough. He's right, the game used to be enough.
But for kids now, they need two screens. They need
to watch about it. They need to watch the fantasy
and the gambling though thing worries the hell out of me.
I gotta be honest with you, the fact that gambling
is legal and there's a lot of kids in college
(40:02):
and I've talked to some parents where, you know, kids
start betting on games, and that worries me. That's it's
very easy. It's very easy to bet on football games
if you're a college kid, or even if you're out
of high school and you're over eighteen and you're working
and a hundred bucks a year, a hundred bucks there,
and then you win. And just remember, man, the house
(40:23):
always wins. The house always wins. One of my favorite actors,
Chris Bauer, you know who he is, joins us next
here on wbz's Night Side.
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
I cannot wait. I cannot wait for September tenth. Cannot wait.
Oh my god, this is gonna be mussy TV. And
I swear to god, you don't even have to be
into politics, you really don't. You do not have to
be in the politics to want to see this. This
is going to be incredible. This is going to be
(00:29):
a phenomenal debate. Unbelievable. I'm gonna I have some comments
on this coming up. I am like a caddickt Christmas.
I have no idea and if I look both candidates,
by the way, I'm Gary Tagway. If it didn't Y
Nicole mentioned that, thank you very much. I appreciate that
Dan is off this week. This is Nightside here until
twelve midnight. I'll run down the show for you in
(00:50):
just a minute here. But when the announcement came down
that September tenth is gonna be the debate, it's going
to be in Philadelphia. You can listen to it here
in WBZ Boston's news radio. You can also catch it
on the iHeart mobile app, which you should have you
on your phone. I mean, if you don't. I don't
really understand why not. But the iHeart mobile ops tremendous.
(01:16):
I just can't wait to see these two go at
it a Vice President Harrison former President Donald Trump, and
I know they It's so funny to me. It's so
comical that Trump's party, or at Trump's people, they want
the rules, right, I mean, they want the rules they
(01:38):
want Okay, this is this is the deal. Trump announced
on truth Social that he has accepted the September tenth
debate on ABC under the same conditions of the June
CNN debate. So here are the rules. Microphone will only
be turned on when it is there turned to speak.
(02:01):
Wait a minute, I thought this is probably Trump's people
talking to try to protect him from himself, because if
he leaves the microphone on, he's gonna blow it. He's
just he won't be able to control himself. Also, no
studio audience, which I think sucks. You have to have
(02:21):
a studio audience for a debate. Come on, you gotta.
I think they should do it like the price is right,
and I think they should have an announcer. Donald Trump,
come on down, Kamala Harris, come on down. You have
to have a studio audience. You have to have some juice.
(02:42):
Maybe he could have some celebrities, you know in the audience,
various people. Jennifer Lopez. Hey, Jennifer Lopez is here today.
She's in the audience. Uh, what else here?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
The candidates are not allowed to talk to their staff
during breaks, that's fine, or bring any with them, that's fine.
They can only have a pen and a pad and
a bottle of water. Is that just one bottle of water?
Is that just one o? You only allowed one bottle
of robber water? H The consumer of entertainment wants the
(03:21):
mics turned on. If you want to see a bleep show,
if you want to see just a twenty five car
pile up on a stage, you want the mics on.
You do you want these two to go at it?
If you want to be reasonable, if you want to
(03:42):
be a person of education, if you want to be
a little high brow, you want the microphones off. I
love it. You know in the past when Harris Well,
she did it in the past vice president vice presidential debates, right,
which is a sir, mister vice president, I'm speaking, mister
vice president. I'm speaking. Here's the thing with Harris and
(04:07):
she was okay with CNN and Dana Bass, she was okay.
The problem is Harris sometimes isn't forceful enough when she
says something. I mean, I said this last night. Rob
Brooks is with us back. Rob, good to see you
again on the other side of the window. I'm sure
you are listening on your night off. If you were,
you have a problem. But Donald Trump will say garbage
(04:32):
tastes great with peanut butter when the sky is pink,
and people will go absolutely because he says it with
such enthusiasm and such conviction. I do believe that Vice
President Harris is trying to be correct, but sometimes she
waffles in what she's saying. She stumbles a little bit,
(04:53):
she thinks about it. Let's face it, when it comes
to the presidential election, why worry about being right? Why
worry about being accurate? It doesn't matter because the guy
that's never been accurate got elected and he continues to
be in the race, and he still may win. So
(05:15):
when you look at the score sheets and it won't
even bother anymore. You know, the fact checks when Trump speaks,
I mean, it's a mile long. Nobody cares if you're
gonna vote for Trump. You're going to vote for Trump,
whether he has thirty misfacts if you will, or lives
or whatever you want to call it, on a list nobody.
(05:35):
It's not going to change anybody's mind, Like all of
a sudden, somebody's not going to look at them and say, oh,
you got that wrong. I'm gonna vote for him. It's
not gonna happen. And when they've done a fact check
with Vice President Harris and I will admit that I
haven't looked at every one of them. But this is
a couple of things, you know, like you know, there's
(05:56):
a gray area. I think there was a fact check
after the C and N interview, and there was a
couple of things that maybe she wasn't exact on, but
she was in the neighborhood, not like not like Trump.
I mean, it's just he just doesn't care. And you
know something, why should Donald Trump care? The facts don't
matter and he still could be president again, so he's
(06:20):
gonna keep doing what he's doing. If the microphones stay on,
I think she will destroy Trump. And that's what he's
worried about. If the microphones stay on, she destroys Trump.
You know why, because that's when she's at her best.
I'll tell you right now. And this is what I
(06:41):
thought the problem with Secretary of State Clinton was. And
Hillary Clinton is a brilliant woman. We all know that,
and there was there was just a misconnection. She didn't
connect with women in some areas. I think Kamala Harris
connects with women. I think Kamala Harris connects with her
(07:02):
bas big time. I think she's increased the base quite frankly,
with the brats and the young Democrats and people who
are now going to vote that weren't even thinking about
voting for the two old geezers before. And I think
that's going to be the difference. I mean, if you said,
right now, Tangue, what's going to happen, I'll say, I
think Harris is gonna win. And I think it's going
to be because of the young people who turn out.
That's what I think is gonna I think it's gonna
(07:23):
be close as hell. Do I know she's gonna be
a good president. I have no idea. I have no idea.
I mean, look, Trump had the job, he's more qualified
than her, right if he had the job, already, nobody
trusts him. I mean, he's out of his mind. I
don't know if she can do it. She was picked
(07:44):
as a vice president, you know, with Joe Biden, probably
because they wanted to appeal to certain sections that Joe
Biden wouldn't appeal to. And now she's going to be president.
I don't think this was anybody's plan, but that's what
happens a lot. I mean, look, Harry Truman, we talked
about it last night. Vice presidents or people who became
(08:05):
great presidents and surprise people, and Harris could be one
of them because this is what she does well, and
this is why she was I think successful as a
prosecutor is if she gets pissed off, she will go
for the jugular with him. We've seen it before when
she tries to be smart and intelligent and keep the
gloves on I shouldn't say intelligent. When she keeps the
gloves on. When she tries to play nice and is
(08:29):
very cautious with her words, that's when she gets in trouble.
When she gets passionate about something, that's when she's awesome.
So my advice to Kamala Harris would be, don't think,
just go after him. Don't think, just do. I think
(08:49):
it is going to be fantastic television. It is going
to be fantastic television. And I hope there's more than one.
I don't know if they could squeeze them all in.
I mean, Kenny, what we got, what the hell are Yeah?
Maybe you could do another one in thirty days. I'm
gonna be glued to the TV man. I mean, this
(09:10):
is gonna be to meet from me watching Kamala Harris
and Donald Trump go out and the presidential election will
be like watching. It's gonna be Sunday at one or
Monday night football or the NBA Finals. I cannot wait
for this. I think it's gonna be awesome. And if
(09:31):
they leave the mics on, she will shred him, shred him,
That's what I think. That's why he wants the mics off.
So if you want the show, keep the mics on.
If you want an intellectual conversation, boring, keep them off.
(09:54):
All right, Coming up here on wc's Night, said Gary
Tankway from the again for Dan Ray. Chris Bauer, who
is one of my favorite actors. You may not know
the name, but you know the shows he's been in
Frank from the Wire, He's in The Gemstones, I'm sorry,
not the Jemstones. The Gemstones was last night. He's in
Eels as wild Bill. He's a terrific actor, has been
(10:18):
in a number I mean, he's got one hundred and
six credits. It's phenomenal, just absolutely phenomenal. So True Blood
was in True Blood played the drug addicted sheriff. So
he's going to join us coming up at ten o'clock.
And I love to give attention to actors who deserve it,
you know, like the Michael Mallleys of the world or
the Donnie Wahlbergs of the world, who are phenomenal character actors.
(10:43):
And Bauer is right there, and my friend the freak
from the Left Coast, mister Moderate Sam Metha, joins us
at ten o'clock. He's got a lot to say about
both sides of the aisle with this. Coming up next,
Samantha Gross is going to join us from the Boss Globe.
Why the hell should we did something happen today? Politically
(11:03):
in mass was there an elect did something happen? She's
going to tell us next on wbz's Nightside.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Gary tagway for tonight. There was something going on politically today.
Samantha Gross is going to join us here from the
Boston Globe.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And the primaries in which well, as one would expect
that the Democrats many people running out of post. Nonetheless,
Samantha got the assignment from the Globe. Samantha fill us in,
how was it today? How was it? Was this the
easiest gig ever?
Speaker 4 (11:45):
It definitely was quieter than than other elections I've covered.
But yeah, there there was a primary election you know
today across the state in Massachusetts, believe it or not,
and there were some interesting races to follow. But it definitely,
you know, was a quieter, quiet cycle for primaries than
in the past.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Let's talk about that and we'll get it to this how
I want your opinion, or at least shed some light
on those other races that are imported. But obviously Elizabeth Warren,
I mean that she's the big name, she's running an
opposed and there are three Republicans competing today and the
results and yet I'm not even sure I was just
checking they're not.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Some precincts are reporting, but it's a really low percentage,
so it's really hard to say, but yeah, you know,
there are three Republicans that were running, you know, to
hopefully compete against Senator Elizabeth Warren in November. Bob antonellis
who's an engineer, Ian Kayan has a Quincy City Council president,
and John Deeton is an attorney.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Now, now Deeton, this was interesting. I read in your
column or your article that Deeton moved from Rhode Island
to Massachusetts to run for office. I mean that's what
I assume he did, and he was considered the front runner,
and I think that's unique. I mean, he's a carpentbagger
kind of right.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
It's interesting. Yeah, he doesn't have a long history in Massachusetts,
but he does have the best funded campaign. He loaned
himself a million dollars, so you know, money goes far.
You can put out a lot more advertisements, you know,
send bigger mailers and have a bigger presence. So it'll
be interesting to see, you know, how much money plays
a role in that campaign.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Did they have a shot at putting a dent in Warren?
I mean putting a dent? She said, damn popular, and
she's a force.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Yeah, it's it's it's difficult. She's She's really popular in
Massachusetts and the state, you know, writ large is just
very deep blue, and so you know it'll be interesting.
I think that it's raised, you know, some awareness about
kind of cryptocurrency, which has been a really big talking
point for a lot of the folks in this race,
specifically Ian Kane and John Deaton. But you know, we'll
(13:47):
see because what.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
With crypto, Because what's the deal with crypto? Because I
know friends of mine that have had it. I stay
away from it. I mean, I do well to handle
dollar and sense what's the issue there? What are they
what are they looking to push it?
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, well, you know, Elizabeth Warren has been one of
the biggest kind of vocal you know, uh just critical
critic uh critics of blockchain and cryptocurrency. That's been a
long day. And you know Ian Kane he co founded
a blockchain technology company. You know, John Deaton has has
put money towards crypto, and so I think it's kind
(14:21):
of just been you know, a piece of Warren's reputation
that they've been able to kind of latch onto because
it is really popular and you know, there's a lot
of money in those communities to to boost those campaigns.
Do you have, Crypto, I personally do not afgre why
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
You know why? You know why Smith, Because we don't
have enough money. That's why. I mean people that I have.
I have a friend of mine that is loaded. I
mean now I'm talking loaded, Yes, Crypto. You know why,
because if it goes south, he's still okay. You know,
That's the way I look at it. I mean, if
you get involved in that stuff, you better have enough
(15:01):
in the in the war chest, you know when I
head south to be able to handle it. I was
also reading reading today that the Governor's Council is what
fourteen people running for the chindig and what did they do?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah? Yeah, the Governor's Council is one of the buzzier races.
You know, there's a lot of folks running for a
couple of seats on the Governor's Council. They do kind
of you know, it's obscure, but they do important things.
You know, they confirm judges. They you know, they review
pardon recommendations from the governor. You know, things that have
(15:38):
a lot of sway in the state. But yeah, a
lot of people don't know what they do. A lot
of people don't even know who their governor's counselor is.
But yes, it's become a buzzy racist cycle for sure.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
Well you got some juice with it, I mean because
when I read it when they said that the pardons,
and I think you can probably elaborate on this more
than me. They're a number of different pardons, correct, I
mean we're not necessarily talking about somebody that's good pardons
for being wrongly corrected, for a capital motor or something
like that, convicted, I should say. But you know, if
(16:10):
you have the ability to pardon someone at a number
of levels, that's a very powerful position.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yeah, and they're also in politically charged you know, these
this is these are recommended, you know, by the governor
and so you know, depending on the administration, it can
look really different, and so they operate pretty you know,
in relative obscurities, I think the way how we framed
it in our story. But they do have a lot
of power, yeah, when it comes to pardons, and yeah,
judicial nominees who obviously you know, play a really important
(16:39):
role in our communities across Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, I mean, especially when you talk about the judicial nominees,
because I've known a lot of lawyers and attorneys, and
they love the judge. Ship man, you're on the back nine,
get them out a bench and they can just cruise.
You know. I had a friend of mine. It was
actually a judge. I don't know if I should be
surn or not. He was brilliant, a brilliant man. And
(17:04):
I said to him, how how do you do it? Sometimes?
How do you like listen to all of this all
day long? Said? Sometimes I balance my check book while
I'm listening. Sometimes I lift my feet off the floor
so I don't fall asleep. And I said, wow, man,
that's crazy. But the guy was brilliant, so I mean
he could. He could. He was certainly well prepared. They're like,
balance his check book and listen to a court case.
(17:26):
Anything else interesting today, any other nugget or something you
could share with us?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Yeah, I mean, like I said, there's not a lot
of competitive races for the state House. You know, I'm
Beacon Hill in the legislature, but there are a few
incumbent facing challengers, and that doesn't happen super often.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I'm actually sitting right now in the parking lot of
Marjorie Decker, who's a Cambridge Democrat running for state Rep.
I'm at her her party and her her campaign has
been really interesting because she's a long time in combent.
She's been in you know, the legislature for decades, and
she is facing a challenger for the first time in
in several years from a really young graduate student. I'm
(18:06):
his union organizer, Evan McKay, and they've focused their campaign
really around, you know, legislative efficiency and let the lack
of transparency and Beacon Hell, which has become you know,
has gotten a lot of attention, you know, in this
past legislative session. So that's one that I'm watching personally
because I've been covering that race. But there are a
bunch of state reps, or a bunch there's in the
(18:29):
team state reps and senators that are that are being challenged,
and I'll be watching those races just because you know,
there's one hundred and sixty a reps and forty senators
and very few of them get challenged, so that's kind
of a dynamic.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I'm keeping a close eye on Samantha Gross's whether us
at the Boston Globe. She's covering the primaries today. The
thing I find fascinating about Massachusetts is that while it
is a blue state, we've had Republican governors. You know,
we're Mitt Romney, who was a really nice guy and
him compared to Trump, the dude a liberal, you know,
(19:07):
Paul Salucci. Uh, you know, we've had William Weld. I
think it was a Republican at the time before. Why
is that? Do you have any idea why that happens?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I mean, that kind of brand of moderate conservatism was
really you know, that was like a marquee for Massachusetts
for a long time. Obviously, the party has changed a
lot under you know, it's various leadership. I know you
guys have probably covered this of you know, some of
the tumults within the Massachusetts GOP, and so they don't
(19:39):
have that big tent reputation anymore. I think they're trying
to rebuild that. But yeah, they you know, have alienated
a lot of those moderate conservatives after calling I think
they called you know, Charlie Baker rhino at the time
when he when he didn't vote for Trump anyway, So
I think like the brand has deteriorated a little bit.
But yeah, we do have a history of having conservative
(20:02):
governors or I guess you know, moderate.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Governors, conservative governors that are reasonable, you know, I mean
just reasonable. I mean, look, what reason's gone out the window?
I mean we all know that it's it's it's Banana's,
but Charlie Baker's another one. Just you know, a reasonable
situation or somebody you could have a conversation with, somebody
that you may disagree with, but you're not gonna call
(20:27):
each other names, and you can have a conversation with
But you're right, I mean, that's that's not the same.
Even Scott Brown. I remember when Scott Brown won, you
know that pulled off that upset and Scott was a
moderate as well, and he had a pickup truck and
people like that. So, hey, do you have any my
opening comment I talked about the the debate coming up
(20:49):
on the tenth, and I assume you're a It sounds
to me like you're a political junkie. That's why you're
doing what you're doing. I cannot wait for Harris Trump
ding ding, sound the bell, let's go take the gloves off.
What do you think about this?
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Yeah, I'm definitely interested to see. I mean, it's it's
a first so I think you know, all eyes will
be on the two of them. Both campaigns have been
really active. You know, in recent weeks, Vice President has
is launching her Reproductive Freedom bus tour that's going, you know,
around the country right now. I know that it kicked off,
I think today in Palm Beach, near near Donald Trump's home.
(21:31):
And you know, meanwhile, you know, Trump lawyers are are
in court trying to help proceedings in his criminal case.
And yeah, it's just it'll I don't know, it'll be
really interesting. I'm really curious to hear what they have
to stand one of the big issues. And yeah, it's
you know, there's been so much change in that race
lately that yeah, it'll be interesting to see it kind
(21:53):
of form on stage on the tent.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Oh my god. I mean on CNN tonight they were
talking about different stratu geez and one of the strategies was,
you know, and we've heard this, the prosecutor against the convict,
you know, but the strategy was she needs to act
like a prosecutor, like she's going after him, the criminal.
And I'm like, oh my god, what is this. This
is the presidency of the United States. We've lost our minds.
(22:19):
We've lost our freaking minds. Thank you very much Samantha
for joining us. Great job, Thanks for filling us into
what was going on today with the primary Samantha Gross
of the Boston Globe, Best of luck, talk to you
again soon. Thanks for having me, all right, Samantha, good job.
So there you have it. There you have it, folks.
(22:41):
Shaughnessy's coming up in eight forty five. Boston College, Boston College,
go get them. Billy O'Brien, the BC egos pulling up
a huge upset over SSU Florida State University. Does this
mean college football is going to be back at the
heights because we're not a college town. We all know that.
(23:03):
But there have been periods in BC's history, whether it
be Doug Flutie or Matt Ryan, where we wanted to
follow BC and flute was the big thing because he
was a local guy from Natick.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You know, we know that.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And Billy O'Brien's a local guy, went to Brown North
andover love that guy. Good for him. That's all coming
up at eight forty five, and coming up next, I
have some thoughts on why we should all be wearing
long pants on WBC's Nightside.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
You're on the Night Side with Dan Ray on wb Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Dan Shaughnessy joins us, coming up in about ten minutes
talking about BC let's hear it for the Eagles man
the Heights and they went on the road. They won
on the road against Florida State. The Eagles are back. Baby,
Dad's gonna talk about that. Coming up at eight five.
I'm as I get older, I have become such an alarmist.
(24:06):
And I think that's just the way it is. When
you're eighteen, you're nineteen, you're invincible, you're twenty. Nothing's gonna
hurt me. Not a little mosquito. Oh no, not a
little insect. That's not gonna bother me. If they try
to take some blood out of me, I'm just gonna
smack it. But with this West now virus situation, it
(24:30):
scares the hell out of me, It really does. It
scares the hell out of me. WYV risk levels in
the following area of communities raised too high. Sagas in
Essex County, Arlington, Belmont, Malden, Medford, Melrose, Middlesex, Middlesex County,
I should say Chelsea, Revere, Revere, Winthrop in Suffolk County.
(25:00):
I get a first hand frost nothing like a good
frost unless you leave the plants out, and you still
get stuff in the garden. While the temperatures may be
a bit cooler, September is still within the peak time
for West NOOW virus activity in Massachusetts, said Public Health
Commissioner Robbie Goldstein, who was an MD and a PhD.
(25:22):
So this is serious stuff. It really is. And my
family looks at me a little weird because I mean,
I'm wearing shorts now, but I'm in a studio and
I walked ten feet in my car. But even if
it was hot out, I'd taken the dogs for a walk.
I do the long sleeves, I do the pants, I
do the socks. Even the other night, I said, let's
stay in. Let's not go, let's not sit on the
(25:43):
back porch. Let's just stay in and take it easy here,
because as we have seen, this has resulted in some
tragedy strat excuse me, tragedy as I attempted to be dramatic,
and tragic deaths. I mean, we know that I feel terrible.
I mean, how bad is that You're going about your
(26:06):
business and you get a mosquito bite. You don't think
anything's wrong. I mean, that's just terrible. It's haunting, feel
awful for that family. Terrible, terrible, terrible. One man in
his fifties exposed in Suffolk County, the other man in
his eighties exposed in southern Middlesex County, and we know
there was a fatality in New Hampshire. So folks, put
(26:28):
on the long sleeves at night, use the bug spray,
get out the deet, get on the socks, put on
the long pants. Even if it's a little warm. We
still have some warm days ahead. You know me, If
you need to do the shorts of the T shirt,
you can maybe do it in the morning when there's
a light breeze, but still put on the repellence. I
(26:49):
know I sound like your father here, but do it. Absolutely,
do it. All right, Rob, We're gonna break a little
older because I got Dan Shaughnessy coming in and we're
going to talk about the re energized BC Eagles at
the Heights with a former Patriot coach that is making
it happen. It's all coming up on WBC's Nightside. Gary
(27:10):
Tangway for Denray.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Now back to Danray Live from the Window World Light
Side Studios on WBZ News video.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
BC's back, baby, It's awesome. It's all. Look, this is
not a college football town. We all know it. Dan
Shaughnessy joining me, my friend here from the Boston Globe.
The Boston College Eagles pulled off a mammoth upset. I mean, Danny,
they were like sixteen and a half point underdogs. They
come out on the road at Florida State University and
they take him to the woodshed. How about that? That
(27:40):
was something. It was fun. I mean, when BC's good,
it's fun, right.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
That was really impressive.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I tuned in and I'm not a big college football
dog like most people who live here. I know, the
reach of the program that you're anchoring here is is
very vast and goes to many places that are college
football towns and areas, and we just don't happen.
Speaker 3 (27:59):
To be one pro town.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
But that was for BC, I mean, about as good
as it's gotten the last forty years. I mean, it
was really an impressive, impressive win. As you say, you know,
on the road, sixteen and a half point dogs win
by fifteen, and you know, now you look ahead. I
mean they've they've got Michigan State coming in here in
two or three weeks, and that's the week before Michigan
State plays Ohio States, so maybe they'll catch them nap.
(28:22):
And I everybody just got a lot more serious about BC.
I think seeing them on their schedule now it's something
for the ACC to have a team that's that's kind
of a sleeper in the overall picture of it.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
So yeah, like you say, it was a good moment
and good for them, Well we're.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Going to need it because the Patriots are just you know,
it's not good. I mean, it's just not good. Which
I'll get to that in a minute. Which as far
as I'm concerned, that's fine. We've had an amazing run.
We'll let Kansas City and the other other teams have
their fun right now, because it was a tremendous run
for us, as you know. But I also like the
way they win the game because there was a running
(29:00):
game involved. It wasn't just simply Madden Football.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
Right, They were doing a lot between the tackles's kind
of going straight at them. And really in Florida State,
and again I don't follow this like a lot of
your audience, I suppose, but the Florida State, man, what's
the story they lose to Georgia Tech. They're still ranked
tenth in the country. There's only one team, and they're
at home, and the quarterback just looked really bad. I
(29:26):
just couldn't believe it was missing open guys and not
just taking anything away from what BC did. And you know,
Bill O'Brien, I mean, good on them, but I just
was surprised at the ineptitude that team last year. You know,
there was a lot of noise about them at the
end with their defeated record and why aren't they in
the mix here and this and that and and it's
turned out I don't know a little bit of fraudulents
(29:46):
going on there. But as you say, Gary, you know
we're not a college town.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
And I can tell you I remember distinctly.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
It's funny you bring up about the Patriots being bad,
and so maybe BC and fill that gap a little
bit because because a long time ago two thousand and seven,
BC was ranked second in the country in football for
two weeks and that was the Matt Ryan era, right,
and they really had it going. And I think O'Brien
was still the coach then, and this was like in October.
(30:16):
It wasn't early, it was in the middle, Virginia Tech
beat them to get them off the number two perch.
But so in our town they're number two in the country.
And I'm telling you, no one was aware of this.
And here's why Red Sox won the World Series. In
October of two thousand and seven, the Patriots were going
eighteen and oh on their revenge tour. Kevin Garnett had
(30:36):
just come on to the Celtics in the Watford Deal
and they were beginning a championship run for the two
thousand and seven to eight Celtics, And you had the
number two football team in America and no one was
aware of it, and it just sort of.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Came and went. So that's our town.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
And I don't you know, radio shows like the one
you're doing and the all sports talk shows in our
town they don't the college guest, whether it's basketball, football,
they just don't get the audience or they don't get
any kind of conversation going the way it would anywhere else.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Well, I think the connection is there has to be
a local tie. Now we can go back to cowboy
Jack mcnell, who coached at the University of Maine, and
it was just a sweet guy with the cowboy boots
and played the guitar and loved his country music. And
Doug Flutie of course, right Fluty Media was a native kid,
a local kid, you know. When you look at that
(31:29):
team you talked about, were coached Tom O'Brien, and I
remember talking to him, nice man, but he was also
a little frustrated. He didn't really understand the ways of
the world here. That BC is almost it's like a
and I don't want to be insulting, but it's it's
(31:53):
like a gem. It's like every once in a while,
if you have the right personalities attached to the program,
people will get behind it. For a while, when Al
Skinner was coaching with the basketball team, Jimmy O'Brien with
the basketball team, Jerry Yorke again local guy with the
hockey team, and that team you mentioned with Tom O'Brien,
you know the quarterback. He's great. Ryan's a great kid.
(32:15):
He was from New York. O'Brien was a military guy,
came out of Virginia. There was no connection, you know,
And that's why I wanted to talk about this tonight
because of Billy O'Brien. Now, you and I both covered
him when he was with the Patriots. This guy went
to Brown. He's got a North Andover. He had the
(32:35):
he had the impossible job of working with Brady after
Josh left. We all know when Billy got in a
fight with Tom on the sidelines. I'm rooting for Billy O'Brien.
I'm just rooting for the guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
No, that makes a lot of sense, and he's you know,
this could be a perfect fit.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
I mean you always wonder if the guys has found
a home and given his age, as you point out,
his local roots, and he's done a lot in the NFL.
I mean, you know when the Houston Texans had it going,
you know he was. He was all there for that,
and then the offensive coordinator for the Patriots and the
last Penn.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
State he turned Penn State around. I mean, Danny, I
mean Penn State was coming out of it. I remember
when he took the Penn State gig. I don't know
if you remember this, but Belichick I was talking to
somebody I can't hell him and a Benzoe or something,
you know, who knows, but like Belichick told him, you
take that Penn State job because it was after the
whole you know, uh, pedophilia scandal, I mean just terrible,
(33:31):
and people didn't want the job, you know, and paternal
I think it passed away. I mean it was just
the thing was in the dumps and people told him
to take it and he did and it was actually
the right move for him.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yep, you know it was.
Speaker 5 (33:44):
I mean, they had they had way more success quickly
than anybody thought they would or could given what he
walked into. And that's absolutely true. And you know, another
another great part of his resume. And that's why I
wonder if you know, there's only one game in, but
this this would have been a good day to renegotiate
because I mean, he looks like a guy that you
(34:05):
want to keep and and build around because it's been
it's been tough sledding over there for quite some time,
as you know, and uh, and this would be a
you know, this could be a game changer for the
for the school's football program, which is just you know,
it's just been a while and and you know, going
back to it was not him, but last year there
was that everybody kind of laughed.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
At the Wasabi Bowl and that was sort of a tell.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
It was at Fenway Park in December on a Wednesday
morning and was raining and it was a horrible day
and there was no one in the lower bowl of
Fenway of the stands, and and they they they took
it to SMU, which was you know, they had been
a ranked team and and came here and just lost
their way. BC took it to him. So it was
something to work with, uh with with the changeover of coaches.
(34:51):
And now he's come in and he's like, hey, why
can't we be good at football?
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Well, I think he's the key. I agree with you.
I think look, we all remember flute Mania and I'll
ask you to remind on that and just a little bit.
But he again a local guy. Coach Tom Brady, coach
of the Patriots, did a very good job with Houston,
as you mentioned, turnpen State around. But he's one of us,
and I think that that's why it's going to work.
(35:16):
And you're right, this is probably he's a little bit older. Now,
why would he want to go anywhere else? And if
BC is smart, you keep him here for like five years.
Just do it. Because Dan, I don't know about you,
but I can't keep up with college football the conferences.
I died a big twenty four and you know the
Pac eighteen and that's gone now and everything is all
(35:38):
over the road. So you know, it's it's very hard
unless you're Alabama or Georgia, it's very hard to be relevant.
And you know, this is the guy that could, This
is the guy that could make them relevant.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Yeah, it's you know, it's such a tall order in
this region. But he can make he can make them.
I just don't know when you're a college coach in
twenty twenty four, how you hold onto your talent, you know,
with the nil money and guys you know, with barcodes
in the back of their helmets, and you know.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Everybody's available to transfer.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
If they don't like the way things are, they're in
the portal and they're gone. And I don't know how
fans you know, and even in thee die in the
wool college regions. How do you stay behind this when well,
hell and basketball, you got a whole new team coming
in every year, four or five new starters every year
because of what went down in football. It's just everything's
for sale and I have a hard time getting behind it.
(36:35):
I mean, it's great for the betters, it's great TV programming.
It's great for fantasy And you know, America was got
a wake up call last weekend when college football getting going.
Here we go and everybody's into it.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
I have a hard time getting into it.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
And to me, I don't know why anyone would want
to coach it because just of holding on to your
people and the recruiting and the travel and just keeping
people on board. I mean, it's as you say, the
landscape of college football is just impossible to track anymore.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
UCLA is flying like around the world this year.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You know, it's crazy to.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
Do their schedule. It's crazy, and it's just like, it's
what is that?
Speaker 5 (37:10):
And I might mention Miami of Florida their tight end.
He caught a touchdown pass over the weekend.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
It's his ninth year.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
At college football, played Blueto, seven years of college down
the dream and he finally caught a touchdown.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
It's no, it's crazy. Basketball I think has really been
hurt because the Yukon teams with Danny Hurley, they were
fun to watch, but I mean, come on, I mean,
you know, they're nothing compared to what we've seen in
the past with great college championship teams and it's because
of the player movement.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, you don't. You don't have a kid, You get
a kid for a year, he goes somewhere else for years.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Well that's the coaches, you know, now, you know, that's
maybe where Billy O'Brien can It's kind of like the
Big with the way the Big East used to be
for basketball, where it was all about the coaches. You know,
maybe if you stick with your coach and you go
play for a coach, whether it's Kirby down in Georgia,
you know, or over to Alabama, or maybe somebody wants
to play for O'Brien here. You know, maybe that's the
(38:09):
way it goes. I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
It's it's like Charlie Baker's running the NC Double A
and he's not gonna lose a lot of sleepover because
it is unfixable. But it's changes every week every.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
It's just I can't keep up with it. But this
was a good start. CBC do what they did, and
everybody around.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
Here is a little bit more into it as they
go into their second third week.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Danny, it's always great to talk to you, my friend,
have a good night. Thanks for coming on anytime, all right,
Buddy Dance Chaughnessy columnists of the Boston Globe. One of
the great ones who has seen it all. He has
seen it all. I great Dan Shaughnessy's story. Two thousand
and four Red Sox they sweep the Saint Louis Cardinals.
(38:54):
I'm outside the team hotel. Players are getting on the
bus and Danny goes for a run. Danny comes back
from a jog, and we all know Dan was like,
you know, the curse of the Bambino, I mean, just
the keeper of the gate. But Danna Stowe has been
like the keeper of Boston sports. He really has been,
and he has not lost his fastball by any stretch
(39:16):
of the imagination. He's still a phenomenal read. And I
mean there he just says, now it's not the same anymore.
They won, it's just not as much fun. And in
a way he was right, you know, I mean, the
curse was over, the charm was gone. They were winners.
And seven they went on and they won again, swept
the Rockies, and they just weren't the lovable losers anymore.
(39:39):
And it look for guys like me and Dad, you know,
we've had our day. We're all older. The game used
to be enough. He's right, the game used to be enough.
But for kids now, they need two screens. They need
to watch about it. They need to watch the fantasy
and the gambling though thing worries the hell out of me.
I gotta be honest with you, the fact that gambling
is legal and there's a lot of kids in college
(40:02):
and I've talked to some parents where, you know, kids
start betting on games, and that worries me. That's it's
very easy. It's very easy to bet on football games
if you're a college kid, or even if you're out
of high school and you're over eighteen and you're working
and a hundred bucks a year, a hundred bucks there,
and then you win. And just remember, man, the house
(40:23):
always wins. The house always wins. One of my favorite actors,
Chris Bauer, you know who he is, joins us next
here on wbz's Night Side.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com