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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night's Eyes with Dan Ray unknowing Mazy Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Alexa, why should I vote for Donald Trump? I cannot
provide content that promotes a specific political party or a
specific candidate.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Alexa, Why should I vote for Kamala Harris?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris,
the most significant maybe that she is a strong candidate
with a proven track record of accomplishment. As the first
female vice president, Harris has already broken down a major
gender barrier, and her career in politics has been characterized
by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on
helping disenfranchised communities.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I did is Bezos a Democrat? I didn't even know.
Welcome back to Nightside. I'm Gary Tangwin for Dan Ray
six one, seven, two, four, ten thirty. Yeah. And I
have to give Marita LaRosa, a producer who points that
out to me tonight. Excuse me that when you talk
to Alexa and you ask about Trump, No, nothing, not
(01:09):
going to talk about him, but Vice President Kamala Harris.
Oh yeah, blah blah bla bla b b ba bah.
Even AI is on the side. AI is against Donald Trump.
I think This is hilarious, absolutely hilarious. Now, obviously Amazon,
which runs alection, they've got to fix that. That seems
to be a little partisan to me. But Bezos has
(01:36):
so much money he doesn't have to worry. It's not
like Bezos is going to get that tax break, right.
She's talking about a fifty thousand dollars tax break for
startup companies, but they can yeah, they deduct fifty to
fifty grand for startup companies. She also says families, middle
class families can get a four thousand dollars tax break
(01:57):
per kid. So that's what Kamala Harris is doing. But
it seems like big business like Amazon is behind her.
I thought that was hilarious. But it's obvious that the
vice president is targeting the middle class, and as she could.
You know, listen, Trump's going to be pro big business,
or at least that's the perception. I just think he's
pro Trump and she's going to target the middle class,
(02:22):
which seems like a good strategy. But I'm curious what
you think at six point seven, two, five, four, ten
thirty is it really the economy? Is it really is
that what you're going to vote on? Are you going
to vote for Donald Trump because you think he's better
for the economy. Are you going to vote for Kamala
(02:43):
Harris because of the tax breaks? Are you not going
to vote for Kamala Harris because the Biden administration did
not have the run of economic prosperity that the Trump
administration did. Because I don't think that's it. In the past,
(03:05):
people would say it's the economy stupid, right with George
Bush the senior if you will, it's the economy stupid. Yes,
at that point in time, I thought that is true.
I think people point to the economy now and I
don't think that's what's gonna decide this race. I think
it comes down to who people like. Whether you like
(03:26):
Donald Trump or whether you like Kamala Harris or who
you don't like. I don't like Trump. I'm paraphrasing here.
You know, you may say I don't like Trump and
I don't like Harris. Less it's the less of two evils.
(03:49):
Are you going to vote on the economy at six, one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty? Are you really and be honest? Now, maybe
you may say, yeah, well, Gary, listen, I got a
couple of kids. She's gonna give me a four thousand
dollars tax break on each kid super or I want
to start a small business and I can use a
fifty thousand. Okay, fine, But for the rest of us,
(04:14):
are we going to put a guy in office that
in January sixth? You know, these people wanted to overflow
the government, and people died over throw the government, I
should say. And who didn't handle COVID great? And I
don't know who would have handled COVID well, but I
think they would have been on the same page with
Fauci instead of just going crazy and going off on
(04:38):
his own rants and tantrums on Twitter. Look, I don't
know if Harris is going to be a good president.
I don't know. It's the great unknown. I understand her.
She doesn't really have a record. You know, Trump has
a record. The economy was good when Trump was president.
(04:58):
Interest rates if they come down and probably going to
come down before the election, well, and if Harris is
re elected, that means she may have a good economy.
Is it really about the money with this election? Is
it really? Because I don't think it is. It's good
at day in New Hampshire. Dan, you're up on WBC's
Night set H Gary.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, you know, I agree with you. I've been thinking
the same thing. I don't think it is the economy
stupid this time around. What the thing is? You know,
people go around saying, how well politicians, you know, they
all lie and everything else. But the difference with Trump,
Gary is he doesn't even know what the hell it
(05:39):
is he's lying about.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I know, I know, I know, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
He just sits there and makes up stuff. The greatest
economy in the history of the world won the election
by the biggest landslide in the history of the country.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I don't how about this, how about never conceded the election?
The election was stolen from him? Yeah, and just on
and on and on and on. And here's a guy
in al Gore, and many feel that the election was
taken from him, and it was, and he conceded, and
(06:20):
he said, okay, you know, President Bush, it's yours. He
was a gentleman. He didn't start a revolt. He didn't
ask people to attack the capital.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You know, well, because al Gore was a patriot, it
should have been president would have been a great one.
But the Supreme Court did rule in favor of Bush, right,
and he had to say he accepted all of us.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, he accepted it.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
He said okay, and he told all of us we
had accepted as well. That's so you talk about me
when the Florida I remember that Friday when the Florida
Supreme Court ruled for Gore and they started counting votes again.
Within hours, the US Supreme Court is in there saying no,
(07:07):
stop counting the votes.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
That was as third good Marshal of only Sylvan sitting there.
So the Clarence Thomas Albow would have been presidents. Well
you have a much different world today.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well but you know that's that's the way the cookie crumbles.
You know, you can look on both sides.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
In George W. Bush after nine to eleven was pretty good.
So and I'm a registered Democrat, but Dan, thank you
for the phone call. I appreciate it. Is it the
economy when you go into the voting booth. Are you
going to vote for Donald Trump because you think he's
going to help your pocketbook? Are you going to vote
for Kamala Harris because you think she's going to help
your pocketbook? And maybe with what she is promising, that
(07:50):
may be the case. The four thousand dollars credit for
each kid, the fifty thousand tax credit. If you're starting
up a new business, small business, getting the economy going.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And it is also and I'm asking this question, is
that what we need right now? I think what we
need in this country is a lower cost of living.
So I don't know if giving a fifty thousand dollars
credit for small businesses addresses that it's just too damn
expensive to live in America. Period. It's crazy. I don't
(08:32):
know how some people do it, especially in New England
when it comes to try to now, I'm not Now
she has talked about price fixing. I am not for
price fixing, am not. I am not a communist. You're
not going to do that. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. Maybe they bring interest rates down, maybe that'll
fix things again. But again it comes to interest rates.
(08:56):
We know it's all about the feed. It's not about
who's president. Is it the economy stupid in this presidential election?
Your calls coming up next on wbz's night Side Now.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Back to Dan ray Line from the Window World Nightside
Studios on WBZ News.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Radio sixty seven two thirty of a phone number Gary
Tangway for Dan Ray tonight taking some calls I just
saw regarding the economy. Is it the economy? Is it
this time around? That's a breaking news came out of
the school shooting in Georgia. Horrific that coch Gray, the
fourteen year old who's been arrested for this. They talked
(09:35):
to him about threats prior to this. Look, if you
make a threat to a school, you're out. You're out.
We cannot we cannot take any more chances with this.
I mean, we saw this with the last school shooting,
where the parents knew that the kid had access to
the gun and they I mean, it's insane. You can't
take any chances. If there is a threat or be
(10:00):
behavior from a student, they're out. I'm sorry, you just can't.
We can't have this. And there's a report saying there
was a warning about him prior to it happening. I
don't know if he was already in school. Police were
there quickly, they were able to stop the violence. But
if a student makes a threat in the school, they're out, period.
(10:23):
That's it. What's it going to take? People? Is it
the economy? Stupid? Are you going to vote with your
pocketbook coming up in November six, one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. Let's go to John and Boston. John, you're
on WBZ.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Oh, I didn't thank Garry Jarry. Actually it was a
I think you said George Bors said it was the
economy stupid.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, did I mess up? Who was it?
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Well?
Speaker 7 (10:50):
I think you know it was James Cobble in nineteen
ninety two that said it's the economy student.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, it was against I thank you for correcting me.
It was Carville was not thank you for correcting me.
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Yeah, it's uh. And al Gore actually he wanted to
continue the count and continue contesting the result. It was
the Supreme Court on December twelfth, was also happens to
be the feast day Alida Gueralupe that decided said it's
it's the counting has got to be over, and that
George Bush was president. So al Gore actually wasn't being
(11:24):
a gentleman. He actually wanted to continue the counting.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I understand court, I mean, John, I understand that, but
he didn't pull the stuff that that that Trump is pulling.
I mean, eventually, I.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Just wanted to make sure that I want to make
sure the facts are clear, though. That is Al Gore.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, I get that, I know, I understand that. Of course,
he the guy wanted to win. But you've got a
president in Trump who still doesn't think he lost the election.
I mean, Gore eventually had to concede. Trump never did.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Neither did Hillary Clinton. For years she said she was stolen.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But you know that, no, she could see it. She
could she could see it. This guy, this guy Trump
never conceded.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Women Jillie Clinton said for years that the election was stolen.
That's that's that's still giving the perception that it was stolen.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Did she concede or did she not concede that she
had not won the election? Did she bow up?
Speaker 7 (12:28):
She continually said for years, And he could play back
the video, anyone can look it up. The election was stolen. Also,
by the way, Donald Trump never let an insurrection. He
told people to peacefully and.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
John, come on, yeah he did. After he did, he
did after the fact. Come on, he knocked him after John,
after the fact.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
They were attacking the capitol, and I know the facts.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
You just obviously Trump after the fact, when they attacked
the capitol that that's when he said they should stand down.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
He incited a riot. People died. Don't give me that.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Don't fact because you know it was James Cable that
said it was the economy student and you believe it.
On George Bush, you know your facts because you're in
the business and you're misleading. Didn't raise listeners.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I didn't know. I'm not at all, and you're right.
I did misspeak. Look, I'm not I don't know politics
like Dan Ray. I'm not going to pretend to. All Right,
so I misspoke about it's the economy stupid. I got
I made a mistake. But I'll tell you this. Donald
Trump could have done a lot more to stem the
tide on that insurrection. Okay, he fanned the flames period.
(13:42):
He wanted to go. He wanted to go and cheer
him on, and Secret Service said, hey, we got to
get you out of here, mister president, Are you kidding me?
He wanted to go lead the charge. All right, let's
uh go to Alison and Maine. Allison, you're up in
w Is it the economy? Thank you? Is it the
(14:02):
economy stupid?
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
James Carr.
Speaker 10 (14:06):
Well, I just wanted to say, I can't believe it.
I mean, mister Trump, do you not care about the economy,
the inflation that we've had, the twenty thirty percent inflation
just killing everybody, largely because the Democrats did ridiculous things
like the so called Inflation Reduction Act, the most ridiculously
named bill of all time. It costs two trillion dollars,
mostly on you know, green energy boondoggles and things like that.
(14:27):
And the fact that you know, and how about two
hundred billion dollars to the Ukraine to just forestall the
inevitable that that they'll have to come to some agreement
with Russia taking parts of it and all that, And
then who cares anyway, I mean, the Ukraine was part
of a Soviet universe seventy years and before that it
was part of Russia and other countries, So who cares.
You know, it's just nonsense about you know, Pute's going
(14:48):
to move on and take over Europe. That's just nonsense.
And what about all the crime that's coming up? What
about the open border? Do you like the open boarder?
You like the millions and millions and millions of illegals
just flooding into the country.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Oh but Donald Trump didn't help. Listen, I'm not going
to debate you on the Ukraine thing. That's fine, that's
a fair opinion. I got it. I understand that. Okay,
I have no argument with that. But Donald Trump stopped
a bipartisan agreement.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
Oh please, that was a whimpy scene. It said that
when the levels got to a certain level, then they
cut back a little.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Allison, was it better than what you have now?
Speaker 10 (15:22):
A little? But the Democrats created the whole flood by
reversing all of Trump's policies. We didn't have the flood
until until Biden got in.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 10 (15:33):
They're trying to put a little finger in the dyke
to try to stop it.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But also when you had listen, listen, the border's never
been right. I don't care who it is, Republicans and Democrats,
they've all done a lousy job with it. And Trump
was separating families, which I do have a problem.
Speaker 10 (15:47):
That's another canard. And they all did that, you know,
you know what they're commeding crimes. Of course, you separate
the kids for a while from the adults until it's
all sorted out.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And you may, no, you don't do that. Look, here's
the bottom line is that there was a bipartisan agreement. Now,
if you're one, did you speak, But it's better than
what you had now and your guy.
Speaker 10 (16:06):
Trump again, it was a lot better.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
But your guy Trump came in and he's your guy.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
He was the president of the United States. He's saying
that guy, your guy, this isn't sports. He was the
president of the United States, you know. And and and
what about Kamala you know, uh enforcing all the black
mats for years.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
President. If you're gonna you're gonna play that game with me,
you have to call him out, all right?
Speaker 8 (16:30):
All right?
Speaker 10 (16:30):
But why what? What about her supporting all the Black
Lives Matter rioters all across the country four years ago,
setting up bail funds for them, and going on about
how yes it should continue, and how you know and everything.
How about that that was it was out?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Okay, Well, black lives do matter, and she has reversed.
Speaker 10 (16:45):
So the lives of the people, the police who are
attacked the shops were her own.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
They do.
Speaker 10 (16:49):
People were killed, you know, right, you know, he was absurd,
You know, one word was criminal, got you know, got
into trouble with the police for the umpty time and
died of heart failure and therefore the whole country burstened
in the riots orchestrated riots.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You mean you're you're talking about in Minnesota where a
man was choked to death.
Speaker 10 (17:08):
No, he wasn't choked to death, you know, he wasn't.
He died of heart failure in other complications because he
had so much Sentinel and other drugs.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Because they let me put it this way, if the
police had placed them in handcuffs and put them in
the car and not applied that maneuver, would he still
be alive.
Speaker 10 (17:24):
It's a standard police maneuver when somebody's fighting with the police.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I understand it went on way too long, Allison.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
No, it was on way too That's okay to just
have giant riots all across the country.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Of course it isn't. Of course it isn't. But they
the police listen. I am pro police, but they may
even the guy, even the kinds that were standing by
new It went on way too long. That was the
aggressive maneuver that cost the life of a citizen.
Speaker 10 (17:51):
Yes, criminal, a criminal, career criminal that had done.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Amongst the criminal What were they put what were they
putting them away for? What was it?
Speaker 10 (17:59):
Not that particular, but apparently assaulted gunpoint of pregnant women
and all kinds of things. You know that, Well, of
course you don't recall that because the left wing media
suppressed all of that. He was Saint George, apparently apparently right,
like the police just went along and just said, Hey,
there's a black guy, let's go terrorize him, which is
total nonsense.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I understand it's nonsense, but the maneuver was not appropriate.
Speaker 10 (18:23):
But I'm not asking about that now. I'm talking about
what Kamal is nonsense about defending them and setting up
bail fund for all the rioters? Is that? Okay? What
was more of an interaction? What went on for weeks?
And places got burned down, shops got looted, police stations
got burnt down.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And I wanted for a whoa, whoa what police stations
got burnt down?
Speaker 10 (18:42):
Station was burnt down in Minneapolis? Don't you ever follow
the news at all?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yes, police station was not burned down as it was.
Speaker 10 (18:52):
Look it up. I'm not actually sure it was Minneapolis,
but I think it was. But it definitely was a police.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
It was.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I'll look up the title. A complete police station was
not burned.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
Down as it was?
Speaker 8 (19:04):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
I actutely guarantee that, and you're ndpicking again anyway, And
I feel the third time I've asked you, what do
you think about her supporting the policies of supporting rioters?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
How about that she doesn't support rioters? That's why will
you be set up? But do you think do you
think that because she's going to be she becomes president,
that she's going to support riots.
Speaker 10 (19:22):
We supported bail fund for the rioters in the twenty
twenty She set up a bail funding. Yes it should continue,
she said that more than once, and how wonderful it was,
and everything she didn't say wonderful, But no, she set
up bail funds for them to get them out, and
almost none of them was prosecuted, unlike all the people
who wandered around the Capitol on January sixth, twenty twenty one,
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who did almost nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Most of them did almost to present did.
Speaker 10 (19:47):
Almost none of the Black Lives Matter writers was sent
away for any length of time at all. Most of
their charges were dropped.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You're telling me that when the attack on the Capitol,
you're telling me that they did nothing, Alison, I completely
disagree with I think you lot.
Speaker 10 (20:00):
Of them did do nothing. Much of them wandered in,
you know, and they.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Wondered in.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
They went through a barricade. Come on, Allison, that's not true.
They guards dug.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
The only person, the only woman who was killed there
was actually Babbit okay, who was a protester by some
worthless security guard.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Okay, you know you want you want me to get
my fact straight. You got to do the same.
Speaker 10 (20:23):
You're actually have you heard, actually babbit? No, you have
it right?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
No, I have not.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
No, of course you have it no, because you listen.
You listen to the left wing media. You're totally brainwashed
with them.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Oh yeah, that's me. I gotta get out of here.
Oh my god, what a headache. I don't know how
Dan Ray does it. Jesus, Rob help me. I got
to take a break. We'll be back on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Welcome back WBC's Night Side, rapping things up for Dan
Ray tonight of Gary Tangle sixty. Is it the economy?
Is it the economy? Is that how you will vote
based on the economy? I don't know if it is.
Tim Tim Walsey, vice president of Candidate with Kamala Harris,
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his family is endorsing Trump than the Nebraska waltzs came
out with sweatshirts and T shirts saying they're voting for Trump.
I guess they're not that type of a family. I
found that humorous. All right, let's get back to the calls.
Let's suck to Franke in Northbridge. Hey, Frank, is it
the economy?
Speaker 8 (21:36):
No, I don't think it's the economy.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
There are much more important issues that they're going to
drive this character right at the top of the list.
That last call of that you had. Man, it's scary
to think that it's scary to think that that attitude
is out there late this late in the game.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Well yeah, I mean, and she was correct there was
a police station, you know. No, but I mean she
was correct, she was correct about the Minneapolis police station.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
But yeah, but almost describing January sixth, the crowd is tourists,
I mean serious.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, that's my boy. That's the thing that gets me.
I mean, that's that's the tiebreaker for me with Trump.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Yeah, talk about brainwashed, you know, And like I say,
you know, the thing of it is also to people
forget the stock market is up forty since Biden got in.
I mean, it was such a horrible economy. How could
that be?
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I think, you know what I mean, No, and that's true,
and the stock market continues to do well. I think.
You know, again, it's all about the interest rates. If
they come down, then people will be able to get money,
then there'll be flush. I do think that it probably
is because in New England it is extremely hard to
buy a house.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
In New England, Yeah, it's very expensive to live here,
but in the middle of the country that's cost of
living is far less. And no doubt think is a
up crime. Violent crime is way down, wages are up,
unemployment is way down. No, I mean there are bigger
issues this time around.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's the interest rates. I think that are killing people
because if you do want to go get a mortgage,
it's nine percent. That's a killer. You know, that's a killer.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
I mean, I can remember when it was twelve years
ago when I bought a house that was twelve and
three quarters was a good rate. I mean, you know,
it's all relative.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Well it is, and again, the interest rates have very
little to do with the President. It's all about the
Fed and they're probably going to get dropped yeah, but so,
I mean, I agree with you, I don't. I don't
think it's the economy. I think that people are going
to look at character. I think people are going to
look at well, I know who Donald Trump is. I'm
(23:47):
not sure who Kamala Harris could be because I don't
know if she's presidential material. I really don't. At times
she doesn't appear, she doesn't look at She was also
thrown into it. She was a vice president. She was
tossed into this thing. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
Also too, don't forget. Uh you know, in the past
four years, well the past eight years, a lot of
those Trump that Trump corps, a lot of them have
died off, you know. So I mean I mean that
Trump call, you know, the the the real loons.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
So you know what I mean. Yeah, Well, I think listen,
I have voted Republican, I have voted Democrat. I think
Harris is going to win because I think there's a
new group of voters that we never considered before. And
it's the young people and it's the brats, and I
think that's gonna I think it's going to be close,
and I think that's going to be the difference. But
I don't know it's it's my opinion.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I don't know, yeah, but you can sense it. And
there's no question that young people are going to make
a huge difference system around.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
And I don't know if she's going to be a
good president or not. I have no idea.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Well, she certainly couldn't do worse than him.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Well, I don't think.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
I can't see her. I can't see her leading an insurrection,
you know.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
So I'm with you on that, Frank. I appreciate the
phone call. All right, let's go to Rick and Bell
Rickett six seven thirty. Hey, Rick, you're on WBZ. I'm good.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Yeah, No, I I'd like Trump to get in. I
think it will be a really close race. And uh,
I think if Trump gets in, quite frankly, he'll only
probably be able to get things back to the middle.
So I don't think he I don't think he's a
(25:23):
radical writer or anything.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think, oh he's not. Oh he's not. No, no, no, no,
And especially when it comes to like the abortion thing,
leave it to the States, you know. Look, look, look Trump,
Trump really is in any date all. Somebody told me
once that politicians are people that were too ugly to
be actors, you know, I mean, and there's some there's
(25:47):
some truth to that. They like the attention, they want
to be up front, they want you know, and they're
performers and Trump's a performer. And I think that if
he had listened to his advisors when he was in
and just kind of been normal, he probably would have
been re elected.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
But there are just some things sometimes he just can't
help himself with the things he said or the things
he does that turned people off. Because that and I
think that's what hurts him. If he had just kind
of played it safe, listen to it advisors, you know,
have a conservative type of platform, he would he would
(26:26):
have done two terms. You know, he would have he
would have done two terms. So but I mean, so
you're going to vote for Trump? Why, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna tell you to vote why. Why why
would you vote for Trump? I'm just curious, like what.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
You do with the economy. I think he I think
he did a good job on the border. The border
has not been perfect, that's true, but he he tightened
it up a lot more. I think he only had
about one hundred more miles of border while to finish,
and he did the best he could turn his administration
and uh, because he was in court a lot, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Uh, well that's the problem, you know, he gets in
his own way.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Well, I think it was. I think when I say
he was in court, I think the whole Steele dossier
thing was, Oh that was stupid.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I mean, because they all do it. I mean, that's that.
That's stupid. I mean Biden too. They nobody, but nobody
keeps track of their records, you know.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I know, I know, but they they they wanted to
get him when when he was in office, but he
managed to do some some some pretty good stuff for
the country and uh, certainly the economy, and I would
love to see the border closed up as much as
possible and people come legally in.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah, it has to be. It has to be taken
care of. Now. Yeah, no, how do you respond to
there was a bipartisan deal on the table and Trump
didn't want it to happen. He wanted to use it
as a political p like, what is your opinion on that?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Well, why didn't they do that from the very beginning?
They waited three years into the fairpoint not quite a fairpoint,
not quite yeah, not quite three years. But all of
a sudden they want to do it when millions have
have gotten into the country at fairpoint.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, because I wondered that too. I wondered that too.
You know, that's that's that's that that is a legitimate description,
just to see. I agree with you. I I don't
know why it can't be fixed. I really don't. Other
countries do it. I know we were a melting pot.
I think I believe people should be allowed to come
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into this country legally. I'm with you on that. I
think we can be a compassionate country. There has to
be some order to it. I think that we fall
in love with history where we go back to the
nineteen hundred, so the eighteen nineties, and you know, people
came here from other countries to develop a better way
of life, and it was different then. There was a
(28:58):
lot more opportunity, there was more room in the country.
You had a different situation. And people try to say, well,
this is what we did before. It doesn't translate. Now,
you're right, there needs to be more. Yeah, it doesn't.
It just doesn't translate. It's like you could say, well,
my ancestors came from Italy and they worked and they
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got into or they came from various Russia and they
worked in industry and they raised families and they send
kids to college and they you know, that's what happened.
You know, that's what happened, and it was great. You know,
my parents came from Canada, you know, so as you
know in various relatives from Ireland and all that, that's
not happening. That's not what we're talking about. It's not
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the same thing. So there has to be some order.
There's no doubt about it. There has to be some order.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
So yeah, we need order. We need the education system
not to be teaching some of the crazy stuff they
teach us math, science, reading, writing. Teach the kids to
be loving and kind to the other kids, even when
they're different. You don't have to go with these seven genders.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I just wow. I mean, but you know, yeah, I
hear you. But you know what, that's a it's a
different generation. So I will I will just say, Okay,
if that's what we need to do, that's what we
need to do.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
But don't you.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Think maybe late, maybe when the kids get a little older,
like I think they're starting. I'm really young, and it's
not it's just like you don't talk sex with young
kiddy kids because you want them to hate boys and
be think they're roucky. You want kids to be kids. Hopefully,
hopefully they're not starting too young.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
You know what I mean to be a young I
will just leave it at this. To be a young
person today, there's a lot on their minds, a lot
on their play. I appreciate the phone call. Good stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
I just want to say I'm a kitchen sink drummer too.
I don't know a lot of people who are, but
and I'm a real drum set drummer from a long
time ago. I'm sure you are too. But the kids
think it's really awesome to play drums on. Gary, have
a great night, all right.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I appreciate the phone Tame, I appreciate it. Thank you.
That was a great phone call. He's going to vote
for Trump. I'm curious why. And we can have a discussion.
We don't have to yell at each other. And oh
my god, uh we are going to get to John
and Franklin. I have to take a break through six
one seven, two thirty the phone number, Gary Tank. We're
wrapping things up for Dan Wright tonight on night Side,
(31:25):
and is it the economy. Is it is that what
we're going to vote on? Because I keep hearing that
it is, But I don't know if that's gonna decide it.
We'll wrap things up on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Radio, wrapping things up for Danny tonight. Gary Tank we
here on WBZ six one, seven thirty. Is it the economy? Uh?
Presidents of candidate Vice President Kamala Harris coming out with
her tax plan today, fifty thousand dollars credit for new
companies that start up, new startup companies. Also, she's offering
tax breaks to the middle class. I mean, is it enough?
(32:04):
I mean, I think that she's going to get middle
class voters anyway, four thousand dollars at tax break per child,
which will certainly help. I think when interest rates come down,
and that's going to happen between now and the election,
that is going to obviously help things. And that's always
that's not partisan to me. So I don't know if
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people are going to vote for the economy if Donald
Trump becomes president, does that automatically mean that things will
be better just because it worked for him? Last time.
Does that mean it's going to work this time? I
don't know, But I think there are so many other
questions regarding both candidates that I don't know. If it's
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the economy, I think it's just a simple answer. John
and Franklin, you're up on WBC's Night Side. What are
you saying, sir? What's going on? What do you think?
Speaker 8 (33:02):
You know?
Speaker 6 (33:03):
It's it's a it's a multifaceted issue. You know, no
one's going to say no. And I and personally, I
think that you know, that might be a tiebreaker on
any any given person's you know opinion, you know, left.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Or right, it might be. You know, it's interesting. I
think that's a good point to jump on. What you're
saying is if someone has some money, right, if someone
is upper middle class or maybe upper class and close
to the one percent, but they have liberal you know,
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they they're they're they're economically conservative but socially liberal. They're
not sure how Kamala Harris is gonna do. She doesn't
really have a track record. They go with Trump and
the finances will be the tiebreaker, could be, but I
don't think it's the one and only thing. You know,
and I talked to friends of mine. Friends of mine
(33:55):
have said, of course, it's the economy. I said, I
don't think it is.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
It depends on who you ask, and you know where
they're where they're brokerage account sitting at the time. But
I mean, you know, frankly, it's about more than just
you know, I mean everyone talked with the market. Market
is a huge you know, you can just put that
into twenty thirty different markets into itself. I mean, you know,
stock market shirt ripped during Trump. Sure, and you a
full disclosure. I'm probably gonna vote for Trump, I think.
(34:22):
But okay, he walked into a relatively easy situation. I mean,
from two thousand and ten to twenty and twenty, you know,
a couple blitz on the radar, but everything was great, fine, right,
you know. In in Biden's defense, sure, everyone you know,
hems and hawes, I'll say on the radio about inflation,
a lot of that. I do think it is his fault.
(34:44):
But I mean, you can't you can't, you know, just
bypass the idea of all the stimulus through you know,
Trump for COVID. I mean, all that is stimulated in
the economy, all that you know, cash flooding the system. Sure,
you're going to cause inflation, which you know is the
negative side of the economy. But but to pull it back,
you know, hearing about you know, I mean they've been
(35:05):
talking about it forever. Will they do it?
Speaker 7 (35:07):
I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
But talking about just look at unrealized capital gains tax
I mean, I think that's ridiculous. I mean, we wanted.
I heard a couple of callers ago talking about the
idea of getting the house in Massachusetts, New England is
very hard. Yes, it's very hard. And talk about unrealized
capital gains. That's on any asset. So talk about uh,
unrealized capital gains on your house making it that much harder.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Can you can you break that down?
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
So the idea go ahead, go ahead, you go ahead
and break it down.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
No.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
So so the idea of unrealized capital gains do and
everyone talks about the ridge the don't use elon Musk
for example. You know all these big wigs, they're not
taking a paycheck. You're taking a very little paycheck, and
everyone talks about taxes. So we could go down that
rabbit hole. I'll avoid it. I'm I'm leaning right on
that on that subject just on the idea of paying
out taxes. Now that's a bunch of malarkey. But they
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you know, maybe income TAXI that's a different stort. But
talk about realized versus unrealized capital gains on you know,
these millionaires and billionaires that they all like to say,
you know about you know, you gained one hundred million
dollar networth, paid tax on zero of it. And that's
a okay because it's it's all tied up in stock
and inequity in these companies that they haven't you know,
(36:22):
made a transaction it. So you know, for example, you
know Elon Musf makes a hundred million dollars today because
evaluations of his equities. Fine, that doesn't matter because he
hasn't cashed out on it. Right, So I mean dumb
that down to you and I haven't read anything this.
This could be pure speculation, full disclosure, you know, based
on you know, where do we draw the line on
the low side? Right, So mom and pop you know,
(36:44):
scrape and buy make you know, a million dollars in
their house in the last thirty years. At what point
do we tax them on unrealized capital games?
Speaker 7 (36:52):
Right?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
So you get a tax bill because your house went
up in value, you never made a dollar. All it
did was cost you money. And then I guess I
would say, on the side, do we count you know,
unrealized capital losses against that. There's so much up in
the air, and I mean it's politics. Everyone's throwing fuze
words around.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Well, I mean we're in Buffett and correct me if
I'm wrong. Didn't Buffett come out and say, listen, I
should pay more in taxes because of what you're saying. Right, Yeah,
I take I think you was paying like seventeen percent
as opposed to forty percent. I mean, I listen, this
is not my area of expertise, I will tell you,
but I do know this. If you get between say
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you have a double income, like your double income family,
and you get between two hundred and fifty and four
hundred thousand dollars a year, which sounds like a lot
of money. It is a lot of money, But then
you can get nailed for forty percent on tax right
because you don't have You've worked your ass off. Both
of you are making money. Maybe you're working over time,
(37:52):
you get your master's degree or whatever, so you could
get into this into this this income range. But you
don't have the capital gains and you don't have the right,
so Buffett has. But yet forty percent goes to the government.
That's a problem.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
That's a beautiful part of capitalism where in theory, you
work hard, you know, you get rewarded. I understand taxes.
I mean, that's just the way it goes. I'm not
calling to throw a tea in the harbor, which you
know sounds fun, but you know, we all saw what
happened after that. I'm not calling for that, you know.
But frankly, you know, sure Warren Buffet can say that, sir,
all the you know, I'll say, you know, I keep
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calling them big wigs, uh, you know, supporting these these
politicians doing this and doing that. I mean, they can
say whatever they want. Warren Buffet understands tax go I mean,
you know, should the tax go change, probably, you know,
I think the little guy is probably paying too much.
But also, you know, the big guys are the ones
incentivizing everything. You know, sure we're talking about income taxes,
(38:46):
how about payroll tax how about property taxes, how about
excise tax? I mean, there are so many other taxes
that they're paying. You know, the government incentivizes people to
do what they want through tax code. We want people employed,
we want people that have healthcare right right. So that's
how it works. So I'm not going to solve anything.
I'm just a twenty six year old guy driving a
car down the mask pipe.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I forgot to call in, Josh. I appreciate your calling,
and you know more about it than I do, so
thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Well, let me let me respond to one quick thing.
And I forget who it was. I think was the
gentleman from uh North Christian talking about, you know, the
Trump supporters. And I've been listening to you guys for
a while, but you know that you know, dying off
getting older. You'd be surprised. I worked at one of
the largest companies in New and I of course I'm
not going to say which one, but you know, I
talked all at twenty three, twenty four year olds, even
(39:32):
twenty two year olds who just you know, sign up
what eyed bushytailed. You know, let me getting to it
a once, you know it, drinks have to work. It'd
be a lot. There's a lot more new graduate Trump
supporters than a one would imagine. So and I'm not
sure you know, we called the silent majority anymore, you know,
whatever they used to call it. I think it was
silent majority back in twenty or sixteen, but a lot
more than even I think I would have imagined.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
So I will say that, I will say I'm glad,
I mean, and thank you for the phone call. I
think it's a good point because I've experienced it in
my own house, John, thank you for the call with
uh you two with one of my kids, and we
had discussions and a little more to the right that
I imagine, and I said, good for you, man, do
(40:15):
your own thing. He might have a point the other issue,
because I don't think people are dying off. The other issue, though,
is on the left. There's definitely been a mobilization of
young voters. So which mobilization is going to be greater,
I don't know. I'm just guessing. I think it might
be on the left. I think the younger voter mobilization
(40:37):
may be a little bit bigger on the left than
on the right. But I think he makes a very
good point. Trump voters aren't simply just a bunch of
old guys. We got to go. Thank you very much.
It's been a ball I'll be back tomorrow night at
eight o'clock on WBZ. Rob Brooks, thank you, Marita l Rossa.
We appreciate it. This has been Nightside on WBZ.
It's Night's Eyes with Dan Ray unknowing Mazy Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Alexa, why should I vote for Donald Trump? I cannot
provide content that promotes a specific political party or a
specific candidate.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Alexa, Why should I vote for Kamala Harris?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
While there are many reasons to vote for Kamala Harris,
the most significant maybe that she is a strong candidate
with a proven track record of accomplishment. As the first
female vice president, Harris has already broken down a major
gender barrier, and her career in politics has been characterized
by a commitment to progressive ideals and a focus on
helping disenfranchised communities.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I did is Bezos a Democrat? I didn't even know.
Welcome back to Nightside. I'm Gary Tangwin for Dan Ray
six one, seven, two, four, ten thirty. Yeah. And I
have to give Marita LaRosa, a producer who points that
out to me tonight. Excuse me that when you talk
to Alexa and you ask about Trump, No, nothing, not
(01:09):
going to talk about him, but Vice President Kamala Harris.
Oh yeah, blah blah bla bla b b ba bah.
Even AI is on the side. AI is against Donald Trump.
I think This is hilarious, absolutely hilarious. Now, obviously Amazon,
which runs alection, they've got to fix that. That seems
to be a little partisan to me. But Bezos has
(01:36):
so much money he doesn't have to worry. It's not
like Bezos is going to get that tax break, right.
She's talking about a fifty thousand dollars tax break for
startup companies, but they can yeah, they deduct fifty to
fifty grand for startup companies. She also says families, middle
class families can get a four thousand dollars tax break
(01:57):
per kid. So that's what Kamala Harris is doing. But
it seems like big business like Amazon is behind her.
I thought that was hilarious. But it's obvious that the
vice president is targeting the middle class, and as she could.
You know, listen, Trump's going to be pro big business,
or at least that's the perception. I just think he's
pro Trump and she's going to target the middle class,
(02:22):
which seems like a good strategy. But I'm curious what
you think at six point seven, two, five, four, ten
thirty is it really the economy? Is it really is
that what you're going to vote on? Are you going
to vote for Donald Trump because you think he's better
for the economy. Are you going to vote for Kamala
(02:43):
Harris because of the tax breaks? Are you not going
to vote for Kamala Harris because the Biden administration did
not have the run of economic prosperity that the Trump
administration did. Because I don't think that's it. In the past,
(03:05):
people would say it's the economy stupid, right with George
Bush the senior if you will, it's the economy stupid. Yes,
at that point in time, I thought that is true.
I think people point to the economy now and I
don't think that's what's gonna decide this race. I think
it comes down to who people like. Whether you like
(03:26):
Donald Trump or whether you like Kamala Harris or who
you don't like. I don't like Trump. I'm paraphrasing here.
You know, you may say I don't like Trump and
I don't like Harris. Less it's the less of two evils.
(03:49):
Are you going to vote on the economy at six, one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty? Are you really and be honest? Now, maybe
you may say, yeah, well, Gary, listen, I got a
couple of kids. She's gonna give me a four thousand
dollars tax break on each kid super or I want
to start a small business and I can use a
fifty thousand. Okay, fine, But for the rest of us,
(04:14):
are we going to put a guy in office that
in January sixth? You know, these people wanted to overflow
the government, and people died over throw the government, I
should say. And who didn't handle COVID great? And I
don't know who would have handled COVID well, but I
think they would have been on the same page with
Fauci instead of just going crazy and going off on
(04:38):
his own rants and tantrums on Twitter. Look, I don't
know if Harris is going to be a good president.
I don't know. It's the great unknown. I understand her.
She doesn't really have a record. You know, Trump has
a record. The economy was good when Trump was president.
(04:58):
Interest rates if they come down and probably going to
come down before the election, well, and if Harris is
re elected, that means she may have a good economy.
Is it really about the money with this election? Is
it really? Because I don't think it is. It's good
at day in New Hampshire. Dan, you're up on WBC's
Night set H Gary.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, you know, I agree with you. I've been thinking
the same thing. I don't think it is the economy
stupid this time around. What the thing is? You know,
people go around saying, how well politicians, you know, they
all lie and everything else. But the difference with Trump,
Gary is he doesn't even know what the hell it
(05:39):
is he's lying about.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I know, I know, I know, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
He just sits there and makes up stuff. The greatest
economy in the history of the world won the election
by the biggest landslide in the history of the country.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I don't how about this, how about never conceded the election?
The election was stolen from him? Yeah, and just on
and on and on and on. And here's a guy
in al Gore, and many feel that the election was
taken from him, and it was, and he conceded, and
(06:20):
he said, okay, you know, President Bush, it's yours. He
was a gentleman. He didn't start a revolt. He didn't
ask people to attack the capital.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You know, well, because al Gore was a patriot, it
should have been president would have been a great one.
But the Supreme Court did rule in favor of Bush, right,
and he had to say he accepted all of us.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, he accepted it.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
He said okay, and he told all of us we
had accepted as well. That's so you talk about me
when the Florida I remember that Friday when the Florida
Supreme Court ruled for Gore and they started counting votes again.
Within hours, the US Supreme Court is in there saying no,
(07:07):
stop counting the votes.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
That was as third good Marshal of only Sylvan sitting there.
So the Clarence Thomas Albow would have been presidents. Well
you have a much different world today.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well but you know that's that's the way the cookie crumbles.
You know, you can look on both sides.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
Yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
In George W. Bush after nine to eleven was pretty good.
So and I'm a registered Democrat, but Dan, thank you
for the phone call. I appreciate it. Is it the
economy when you go into the voting booth. Are you
going to vote for Donald Trump because you think he's
going to help your pocketbook? Are you going to vote
for Kamala Harris because you think she's going to help
your pocketbook? And maybe with what she is promising, that
(07:50):
may be the case. The four thousand dollars credit for
each kid, the fifty thousand tax credit. If you're starting
up a new business, small business, getting the economy going.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
Is that?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And it is also and I'm asking this question, is
that what we need right now? I think what we
need in this country is a lower cost of living.
So I don't know if giving a fifty thousand dollars
credit for small businesses addresses that it's just too damn
expensive to live in America. Period. It's crazy. I don't
(08:32):
know how some people do it, especially in New England
when it comes to try to now, I'm not Now
she has talked about price fixing. I am not for
price fixing, am not. I am not a communist. You're
not going to do that. Six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. Maybe they bring interest rates down, maybe that'll
fix things again. But again it comes to interest rates.
(08:56):
We know it's all about the feed. It's not about
who's president. Is it the economy stupid in this presidential election?
Your calls coming up next on wbz's night Side Now.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Back to Dan ray Line from the Window World Nightside
Studios on WBZ News.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Radio sixty seven two thirty of a phone number Gary
Tangway for Dan Ray tonight taking some calls I just
saw regarding the economy. Is it the economy? Is it
this time around? That's a breaking news came out of
the school shooting in Georgia. Horrific that coch Gray, the
fourteen year old who's been arrested for this. They talked
(09:35):
to him about threats prior to this. Look, if you
make a threat to a school, you're out. You're out.
We cannot we cannot take any more chances with this.
I mean, we saw this with the last school shooting,
where the parents knew that the kid had access to
the gun and they I mean, it's insane. You can't
take any chances. If there is a threat or be
(10:00):
behavior from a student, they're out. I'm sorry, you just can't.
We can't have this. And there's a report saying there
was a warning about him prior to it happening. I
don't know if he was already in school. Police were
there quickly, they were able to stop the violence. But
if a student makes a threat in the school, they're out, period.
(10:23):
That's it. What's it going to take? People? Is it
the economy? Stupid? Are you going to vote with your
pocketbook coming up in November six, one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty. Let's go to John and Boston. John, you're
on WBZ.
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Oh, I didn't thank Garry Jarry. Actually it was a
I think you said George Bors said it was the
economy stupid.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, did I mess up? Who was it?
Speaker 8 (10:50):
Well?
Speaker 7 (10:50):
I think you know it was James Cobble in nineteen
ninety two that said it's the economy student.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Yeah, it was against I thank you for correcting me.
It was Carville was not thank you for correcting me.
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
Yeah, it's uh. And al Gore actually he wanted to
continue the count and continue contesting the result. It was
the Supreme Court on December twelfth, was also happens to
be the feast day Alida Gueralupe that decided said it's
it's the counting has got to be over, and that
George Bush was president. So al Gore actually wasn't being
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a gentleman. He actually wanted to continue the counting.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I understand court, I mean, John, I understand that, but
he didn't pull the stuff that that that Trump is pulling.
I mean, eventually, I.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
Just wanted to make sure that I want to make
sure the facts are clear, though. That is Al Gore.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, I get that, I know, I understand that. Of course,
he the guy wanted to win. But you've got a
president in Trump who still doesn't think he lost the election.
I mean, Gore eventually had to concede. Trump never did.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Neither did Hillary Clinton. For years she said she was stolen.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
But you know that, no, she could see it. She
could she could see it. This guy, this guy Trump
never conceded.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Women Jillie Clinton said for years that the election was stolen.
That's that's that's still giving the perception that it was stolen.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Did she concede or did she not concede that she
had not won the election? Did she bow up?
Speaker 7 (12:28):
She continually said for years, And he could play back
the video, anyone can look it up. The election was stolen. Also,
by the way, Donald Trump never let an insurrection. He
told people to peacefully and.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
John, come on, yeah he did. After he did, he
did after the fact. Come on, he knocked him after John,
after the fact.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
They were attacking the capitol, and I know the facts.
Speaker 9 (12:54):
You just obviously Trump after the fact, when they attacked
the capitol that that's when he said they should stand down.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
He incited a riot. People died. Don't give me that.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Don't fact because you know it was James Cable that
said it was the economy student and you believe it.
On George Bush, you know your facts because you're in
the business and you're misleading. Didn't raise listeners.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I didn't know. I'm not at all, and you're right.
I did misspeak. Look, I'm not I don't know politics
like Dan Ray. I'm not going to pretend to. All Right,
so I misspoke about it's the economy stupid. I got
I made a mistake. But I'll tell you this. Donald
Trump could have done a lot more to stem the
tide on that insurrection. Okay, he fanned the flames period.
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He wanted to go. He wanted to go and cheer
him on, and Secret Service said, hey, we got to
get you out of here, mister president, Are you kidding me?
He wanted to go lead the charge. All right, let's
uh go to Alison and Maine. Allison, you're up in
w Is it the economy? Thank you? Is it the
(14:02):
economy stupid?
Speaker 8 (14:03):
Maybe?
Speaker 3 (14:03):
James Carr.
Speaker 10 (14:06):
Well, I just wanted to say, I can't believe it.
I mean, mister Trump, do you not care about the economy,
the inflation that we've had, the twenty thirty percent inflation
just killing everybody, largely because the Democrats did ridiculous things
like the so called Inflation Reduction Act, the most ridiculously
named bill of all time. It costs two trillion dollars,
mostly on you know, green energy boondoggles and things like that.
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And the fact that you know, and how about two
hundred billion dollars to the Ukraine to just forestall the
inevitable that that they'll have to come to some agreement
with Russia taking parts of it and all that, And
then who cares anyway, I mean, the Ukraine was part
of a Soviet universe seventy years and before that it
was part of Russia and other countries, So who cares.
You know, it's just nonsense about you know, Pute's going
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to move on and take over Europe. That's just nonsense.
And what about all the crime that's coming up? What
about the open border? Do you like the open boarder?
You like the millions and millions and millions of illegals
just flooding into the country.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Oh but Donald Trump didn't help. Listen, I'm not going
to debate you on the Ukraine thing. That's fine, that's
a fair opinion. I got it. I understand that. Okay,
I have no argument with that. But Donald Trump stopped
a bipartisan agreement.
Speaker 10 (15:11):
Oh please, that was a whimpy scene. It said that
when the levels got to a certain level, then they
cut back a little.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
Allison, was it better than what you have now?
Speaker 10 (15:22):
A little? But the Democrats created the whole flood by
reversing all of Trump's policies. We didn't have the flood
until until Biden got in.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
No no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 10 (15:33):
They're trying to put a little finger in the dyke
to try to stop it.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But also when you had listen, listen, the border's never
been right. I don't care who it is, Republicans and Democrats,
they've all done a lousy job with it. And Trump
was separating families, which I do have a problem.
Speaker 10 (15:47):
That's another canard. And they all did that, you know,
you know what they're commeding crimes. Of course, you separate
the kids for a while from the adults until it's
all sorted out.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And you may, no, you don't do that. Look, here's
the bottom line is that there was a bipartisan agreement. Now,
if you're one, did you speak, But it's better than
what you had now and your guy.
Speaker 10 (16:06):
Trump again, it was a lot better.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
But your guy Trump came in and he's your guy.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
He was the president of the United States. He's saying
that guy, your guy, this isn't sports. He was the
president of the United States, you know. And and and
what about Kamala you know, uh enforcing all the black
mats for years.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
President. If you're gonna you're gonna play that game with me,
you have to call him out, all right?
Speaker 8 (16:30):
All right?
Speaker 10 (16:30):
But why what? What about her supporting all the Black
Lives Matter rioters all across the country four years ago,
setting up bail funds for them, and going on about
how yes it should continue, and how you know and everything.
How about that that was it was out?
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Okay, Well, black lives do matter, and she has reversed.
Speaker 10 (16:45):
So the lives of the people, the police who are
attacked the shops were her own.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
They do.
Speaker 10 (16:49):
People were killed, you know, right, you know, he was absurd,
You know, one word was criminal, got you know, got
into trouble with the police for the umpty time and
died of heart failure and therefore the whole country burstened
in the riots orchestrated riots.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You mean you're you're talking about in Minnesota where a
man was choked to death.
Speaker 10 (17:08):
No, he wasn't choked to death, you know, he wasn't.
He died of heart failure in other complications because he
had so much Sentinel and other drugs.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Because they let me put it this way, if the
police had placed them in handcuffs and put them in
the car and not applied that maneuver, would he still
be alive.
Speaker 10 (17:24):
It's a standard police maneuver when somebody's fighting with the police.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
I understand it went on way too long, Allison.
Speaker 10 (17:30):
No, it was on way too That's okay to just
have giant riots all across the country.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Of course it isn't. Of course it isn't. But they
the police listen. I am pro police, but they may
even the guy, even the kinds that were standing by
new It went on way too long. That was the
aggressive maneuver that cost the life of a citizen.
Speaker 10 (17:51):
Yes, criminal, a criminal, career criminal that had done.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Amongst the criminal What were they put what were they
putting them away for? What was it?
Speaker 10 (17:59):
Not that particular, but apparently assaulted gunpoint of pregnant women
and all kinds of things. You know that, Well, of
course you don't recall that because the left wing media
suppressed all of that. He was Saint George, apparently apparently right,
like the police just went along and just said, Hey,
there's a black guy, let's go terrorize him, which is
total nonsense.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
I understand it's nonsense, but the maneuver was not appropriate.
Speaker 10 (18:23):
But I'm not asking about that now. I'm talking about
what Kamal is nonsense about defending them and setting up
bail fund for all the rioters? Is that? Okay? What
was more of an interaction? What went on for weeks?
And places got burned down, shops got looted, police stations
got burnt down.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And I wanted for a whoa, whoa what police stations
got burnt down?
Speaker 10 (18:42):
Station was burnt down in Minneapolis? Don't you ever follow
the news at all?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Yes, police station was not burned down as it was.
Speaker 10 (18:52):
Look it up. I'm not actually sure it was Minneapolis,
but I think it was. But it definitely was a police.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
It was.
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I'll look up the title. A complete police station was
not burned.
Speaker 10 (19:03):
Down as it was?
Speaker 8 (19:04):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
I actutely guarantee that, and you're ndpicking again anyway, And
I feel the third time I've asked you, what do
you think about her supporting the policies of supporting rioters?
Speaker 3 (19:13):
How about that she doesn't support rioters? That's why will
you be set up? But do you think do you
think that because she's going to be she becomes president,
that she's going to support riots.
Speaker 10 (19:22):
We supported bail fund for the rioters in the twenty
twenty She set up a bail funding. Yes it should continue,
she said that more than once, and how wonderful it was,
and everything she didn't say wonderful, But no, she set
up bail funds for them to get them out, and
almost none of them was prosecuted, unlike all the people
who wandered around the Capitol on January sixth, twenty twenty one,
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who did almost nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Most of them did almost to present did.
Speaker 10 (19:47):
Almost none of the Black Lives Matter writers was sent
away for any length of time at all. Most of
their charges were dropped.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
You're telling me that when the attack on the Capitol,
you're telling me that they did nothing, Alison, I completely
disagree with I think you lot.
Speaker 10 (20:00):
Of them did do nothing. Much of them wandered in,
you know, and they.
Speaker 8 (20:05):
Wondered in.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
They went through a barricade. Come on, Allison, that's not true.
They guards dug.
Speaker 10 (20:12):
The only person, the only woman who was killed there
was actually Babbit okay, who was a protester by some
worthless security guard.
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Okay, you know you want you want me to get
my fact straight. You got to do the same.
Speaker 10 (20:23):
You're actually have you heard, actually babbit? No, you have
it right?
Speaker 3 (20:28):
No, I have not.
Speaker 10 (20:29):
No, of course you have it no, because you listen.
You listen to the left wing media. You're totally brainwashed
with them.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Oh yeah, that's me. I gotta get out of here.
Oh my god, what a headache. I don't know how
Dan Ray does it. Jesus, Rob help me. I got
to take a break. We'll be back on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Welcome back WBC's Night Side, rapping things up for Dan
Ray tonight of Gary Tangle sixty. Is it the economy?
Is it the economy? Is that how you will vote
based on the economy? I don't know if it is.
Tim Tim Walsey, vice president of Candidate with Kamala Harris,
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his family is endorsing Trump than the Nebraska waltzs came
out with sweatshirts and T shirts saying they're voting for Trump.
I guess they're not that type of a family. I
found that humorous. All right, let's get back to the calls.
Let's suck to Franke in Northbridge. Hey, Frank, is it
the economy?
Speaker 8 (21:36):
No, I don't think it's the economy.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (21:39):
There are much more important issues that they're going to
drive this character right at the top of the list.
That last call of that you had. Man, it's scary
to think that it's scary to think that that attitude
is out there late this late in the game.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Well yeah, I mean, and she was correct there was
a police station, you know. No, but I mean she
was correct, she was correct about the Minneapolis police station.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
But yeah, but almost describing January sixth, the crowd is tourists,
I mean serious.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, that's my boy. That's the thing that gets me.
I mean, that's that's the tiebreaker for me with Trump.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Yeah, talk about brainwashed, you know, And like I say,
you know, the thing of it is also to people
forget the stock market is up forty since Biden got in.
I mean, it was such a horrible economy. How could
that be?
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I think, you know what I mean, No, and that's true,
and the stock market continues to do well. I think.
You know, again, it's all about the interest rates. If
they come down, then people will be able to get money,
then there'll be flush. I do think that it probably
is because in New England it is extremely hard to
buy a house.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
In New England, Yeah, it's very expensive to live here,
but in the middle of the country that's cost of
living is far less. And no doubt think is a
up crime. Violent crime is way down, wages are up,
unemployment is way down. No, I mean there are bigger
issues this time around.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
It's the interest rates. I think that are killing people
because if you do want to go get a mortgage,
it's nine percent. That's a killer. You know, that's a killer.
Speaker 8 (23:17):
I mean, I can remember when it was twelve years
ago when I bought a house that was twelve and
three quarters was a good rate. I mean, you know,
it's all relative.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Well it is, and again, the interest rates have very
little to do with the President. It's all about the
Fed and they're probably going to get dropped yeah, but so,
I mean, I agree with you, I don't. I don't
think it's the economy. I think that people are going
to look at character. I think people are going to
look at well, I know who Donald Trump is. I'm
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not sure who Kamala Harris could be because I don't
know if she's presidential material. I really don't. At times
she doesn't appear, she doesn't look at She was also
thrown into it. She was a vice president. She was
tossed into this thing. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
Also too, don't forget. Uh you know, in the past
four years, well the past eight years, a lot of
those Trump that Trump corps, a lot of them have
died off, you know. So I mean I mean that
Trump call, you know, the the the real loons.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
So you know what I mean. Yeah, Well, I think listen,
I have voted Republican, I have voted Democrat. I think
Harris is going to win because I think there's a
new group of voters that we never considered before. And
it's the young people and it's the brats, and I
think that's gonna I think it's going to be close,
and I think that's going to be the difference. But
I don't know it's it's my opinion.
Speaker 8 (24:34):
I don't know, yeah, but you can sense it. And
there's no question that young people are going to make
a huge difference system around.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
And I don't know if she's going to be a
good president or not. I have no idea.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Well, she certainly couldn't do worse than him.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Well, I don't think.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
I can't see her. I can't see her leading an insurrection,
you know.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
So I'm with you on that, Frank. I appreciate the
phone call. All right, let's go to Rick and Bell
Rickett six seven thirty. Hey, Rick, you're on WBZ. I'm good.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
Yeah, No, I I'd like Trump to get in. I
think it will be a really close race. And uh,
I think if Trump gets in, quite frankly, he'll only
probably be able to get things back to the middle.
So I don't think he I don't think he's a
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radical writer or anything.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
I think, oh he's not. Oh he's not. No, no, no, no,
And especially when it comes to like the abortion thing,
leave it to the States, you know. Look, look, look Trump,
Trump really is in any date all. Somebody told me
once that politicians are people that were too ugly to
be actors, you know, I mean, and there's some there's
(25:47):
some truth to that. They like the attention, they want
to be up front, they want you know, and they're
performers and Trump's a performer. And I think that if
he had listened to his advisors when he was in
and just kind of been normal, he probably would have
been re elected.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
But there are just some things sometimes he just can't
help himself with the things he said or the things
he does that turned people off. Because that and I
think that's what hurts him. If he had just kind
of played it safe, listen to it advisors, you know,
have a conservative type of platform, he would he would
(26:26):
have done two terms. You know, he would have he
would have done two terms. So but I mean, so
you're going to vote for Trump? Why, I'm not gonna
I'm not gonna tell you to vote why. Why why
would you vote for Trump? I'm just curious, like what.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
You do with the economy. I think he I think
he did a good job on the border. The border
has not been perfect, that's true, but he he tightened
it up a lot more. I think he only had
about one hundred more miles of border while to finish,
and he did the best he could turn his administration
and uh, because he was in court a lot, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Uh, well that's the problem, you know, he gets in
his own way.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Well, I think it was. I think when I say
he was in court, I think the whole Steele dossier
thing was, Oh that was stupid.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I mean, because they all do it. I mean, that's that.
That's stupid. I mean Biden too. They nobody, but nobody
keeps track of their records, you know.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
I know, I know, but they they they wanted to
get him when when he was in office, but he
managed to do some some some pretty good stuff for
the country and uh, certainly the economy, and I would
love to see the border closed up as much as
possible and people come legally in.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
Yeah, it has to be. It has to be taken
care of. Now. Yeah, no, how do you respond to
there was a bipartisan deal on the table and Trump
didn't want it to happen. He wanted to use it
as a political p like, what is your opinion on that?
Speaker 5 (27:57):
Well, why didn't they do that from the very beginning?
They waited three years into the fairpoint not quite a fairpoint,
not quite yeah, not quite three years. But all of
a sudden they want to do it when millions have
have gotten into the country at fairpoint.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, because I wondered that too. I wondered that too.
You know, that's that's that's that that is a legitimate description,
just to see. I agree with you. I I don't
know why it can't be fixed. I really don't. Other
countries do it. I know we were a melting pot.
I think I believe people should be allowed to come
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into this country legally. I'm with you on that. I
think we can be a compassionate country. There has to
be some order to it. I think that we fall
in love with history where we go back to the
nineteen hundred, so the eighteen nineties, and you know, people
came here from other countries to develop a better way
of life, and it was different then. There was a
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lot more opportunity, there was more room in the country.
You had a different situation. And people try to say, well,
this is what we did before. It doesn't translate. Now,
you're right, there needs to be more. Yeah, it doesn't.
It just doesn't translate. It's like you could say, well,
my ancestors came from Italy and they worked and they
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got into or they came from various Russia and they
worked in industry and they raised families and they send
kids to college and they you know, that's what happened.
You know, that's what happened, and it was great. You know,
my parents came from Canada, you know, so as you
know in various relatives from Ireland and all that, that's
not happening. That's not what we're talking about. It's not
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the same thing. So there has to be some order.
There's no doubt about it. There has to be some order.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
So yeah, we need order. We need the education system
not to be teaching some of the crazy stuff they
teach us math, science, reading, writing. Teach the kids to
be loving and kind to the other kids, even when
they're different. You don't have to go with these seven genders.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
I just wow. I mean, but you know, yeah, I
hear you. But you know what, that's a it's a
different generation. So I will I will just say, Okay,
if that's what we need to do, that's what we
need to do.
Speaker 8 (30:22):
But don't you.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Think maybe late, maybe when the kids get a little older,
like I think they're starting. I'm really young, and it's
not it's just like you don't talk sex with young
kiddy kids because you want them to hate boys and
be think they're roucky. You want kids to be kids. Hopefully,
hopefully they're not starting too young.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
You know what I mean to be a young I
will just leave it at this. To be a young
person today, there's a lot on their minds, a lot
on their play. I appreciate the phone call. Good stuff.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
I just want to say I'm a kitchen sink drummer too.
I don't know a lot of people who are, but
and I'm a real drum set drummer from a long
time ago. I'm sure you are too. But the kids
think it's really awesome to play drums on. Gary, have
a great night, all right.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
I appreciate the phone Tame, I appreciate it. Thank you.
That was a great phone call. He's going to vote
for Trump. I'm curious why. And we can have a discussion.
We don't have to yell at each other. And oh
my god, uh we are going to get to John
and Franklin. I have to take a break through six
one seven, two thirty the phone number, Gary Tank. We're
wrapping things up for Dan Wright tonight on night Side,
(31:25):
and is it the economy. Is it is that what
we're going to vote on? Because I keep hearing that
it is, But I don't know if that's gonna decide it.
We'll wrap things up on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Radio, wrapping things up for Danny tonight. Gary Tank we
here on WBZ six one, seven thirty. Is it the economy? Uh?
Presidents of candidate Vice President Kamala Harris coming out with
her tax plan today, fifty thousand dollars credit for new
companies that start up, new startup companies. Also, she's offering
tax breaks to the middle class. I mean, is it enough?
(32:04):
I mean, I think that she's going to get middle
class voters anyway, four thousand dollars at tax break per child,
which will certainly help. I think when interest rates come down,
and that's going to happen between now and the election,
that is going to obviously help things. And that's always
that's not partisan to me. So I don't know if
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people are going to vote for the economy if Donald
Trump becomes president, does that automatically mean that things will
be better just because it worked for him? Last time.
Does that mean it's going to work this time? I
don't know, But I think there are so many other
questions regarding both candidates that I don't know. If it's
(32:51):
the economy, I think it's just a simple answer. John
and Franklin, you're up on WBC's Night Side. What are
you saying, sir? What's going on? What do you think?
Speaker 8 (33:02):
You know?
Speaker 6 (33:03):
It's it's a it's a multifaceted issue. You know, no
one's going to say no. And I and personally, I
think that you know, that might be a tiebreaker on
any any given person's you know opinion, you know, left.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Or right, it might be. You know, it's interesting. I
think that's a good point to jump on. What you're
saying is if someone has some money, right, if someone
is upper middle class or maybe upper class and close
to the one percent, but they have liberal you know,
(33:34):
they they're they're they're economically conservative but socially liberal. They're
not sure how Kamala Harris is gonna do. She doesn't
really have a track record. They go with Trump and
the finances will be the tiebreaker, could be, but I
don't think it's the one and only thing. You know,
and I talked to friends of mine. Friends of mine
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have said, of course, it's the economy. I said, I
don't think it is.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
It depends on who you ask, and you know where
they're where they're brokerage account sitting at the time. But
I mean, you know, frankly, it's about more than just
you know, I mean everyone talked with the market. Market
is a huge you know, you can just put that
into twenty thirty different markets into itself. I mean, you know,
stock market shirt ripped during Trump. Sure, and you a
full disclosure. I'm probably gonna vote for Trump, I think.
(34:22):
But okay, he walked into a relatively easy situation. I mean,
from two thousand and ten to twenty and twenty, you know,
a couple blitz on the radar, but everything was great, fine, right,
you know. In in Biden's defense, sure, everyone you know,
hems and hawes, I'll say on the radio about inflation,
a lot of that. I do think it is his fault.
(34:44):
But I mean, you can't you can't, you know, just
bypass the idea of all the stimulus through you know,
Trump for COVID. I mean, all that is stimulated in
the economy, all that you know, cash flooding the system. Sure,
you're going to cause inflation, which you know is the
negative side of the economy. But but to pull it back,
you know, hearing about you know, I mean they've been
(35:05):
talking about it forever. Will they do it?
Speaker 7 (35:07):
I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (35:07):
But talking about just look at unrealized capital gains tax
I mean, I think that's ridiculous. I mean, we wanted.
I heard a couple of callers ago talking about the
idea of getting the house in Massachusetts, New England is
very hard. Yes, it's very hard. And talk about unrealized
capital gains. That's on any asset. So talk about uh,
unrealized capital gains on your house making it that much harder.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Can you can you break that down?
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
So the idea go ahead, go ahead, you go ahead
and break it down.
Speaker 7 (35:36):
No.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
So so the idea of unrealized capital gains do and
everyone talks about the ridge the don't use elon Musk
for example. You know all these big wigs, they're not
taking a paycheck. You're taking a very little paycheck, and
everyone talks about taxes. So we could go down that
rabbit hole. I'll avoid it. I'm I'm leaning right on
that on that subject just on the idea of paying
out taxes. Now that's a bunch of malarkey. But they
(35:58):
you know, maybe income TAXI that's a different stort. But
talk about realized versus unrealized capital gains on you know,
these millionaires and billionaires that they all like to say,
you know about you know, you gained one hundred million
dollar networth, paid tax on zero of it. And that's
a okay because it's it's all tied up in stock
and inequity in these companies that they haven't you know,
(36:22):
made a transaction it. So you know, for example, you
know Elon Musf makes a hundred million dollars today because
evaluations of his equities. Fine, that doesn't matter because he
hasn't cashed out on it. Right, So I mean dumb
that down to you and I haven't read anything this.
This could be pure speculation, full disclosure, you know, based
on you know, where do we draw the line on
the low side? Right, So mom and pop you know,
(36:44):
scrape and buy make you know, a million dollars in
their house in the last thirty years. At what point
do we tax them on unrealized capital games?
Speaker 7 (36:52):
Right?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
So you get a tax bill because your house went
up in value, you never made a dollar. All it
did was cost you money. And then I guess I
would say, on the side, do we count you know,
unrealized capital losses against that. There's so much up in
the air, and I mean it's politics. Everyone's throwing fuze
words around.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Well, I mean we're in Buffett and correct me if
I'm wrong. Didn't Buffett come out and say, listen, I
should pay more in taxes because of what you're saying. Right, Yeah,
I take I think you was paying like seventeen percent
as opposed to forty percent. I mean, I listen, this
is not my area of expertise, I will tell you,
but I do know this. If you get between say
(37:31):
you have a double income, like your double income family,
and you get between two hundred and fifty and four
hundred thousand dollars a year, which sounds like a lot
of money. It is a lot of money, But then
you can get nailed for forty percent on tax right
because you don't have You've worked your ass off. Both
of you are making money. Maybe you're working over time,
(37:52):
you get your master's degree or whatever, so you could
get into this into this this income range. But you
don't have the capital gains and you don't have the right,
so Buffett has. But yet forty percent goes to the government.
That's a problem.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
That's a beautiful part of capitalism where in theory, you
work hard, you know, you get rewarded. I understand taxes.
I mean, that's just the way it goes. I'm not
calling to throw a tea in the harbor, which you
know sounds fun, but you know, we all saw what
happened after that. I'm not calling for that, you know.
But frankly, you know, sure Warren Buffet can say that, sir,
all the you know, I'll say, you know, I keep
(38:25):
calling them big wigs, uh, you know, supporting these these
politicians doing this and doing that. I mean, they can
say whatever they want. Warren Buffet understands tax go I mean,
you know, should the tax go change, probably, you know,
I think the little guy is probably paying too much.
But also, you know, the big guys are the ones
incentivizing everything. You know, sure we're talking about income taxes,
(38:46):
how about payroll tax how about property taxes, how about
excise tax? I mean, there are so many other taxes
that they're paying. You know, the government incentivizes people to
do what they want through tax code. We want people employed,
we want people that have healthcare right right. So that's
how it works. So I'm not going to solve anything.
I'm just a twenty six year old guy driving a
car down the mask pipe.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I forgot to call in, Josh. I appreciate your calling,
and you know more about it than I do, so
thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Well, let me let me respond to one quick thing.
And I forget who it was. I think was the
gentleman from uh North Christian talking about, you know, the
Trump supporters. And I've been listening to you guys for
a while, but you know that you know, dying off
getting older. You'd be surprised. I worked at one of
the largest companies in New and I of course I'm
not going to say which one, but you know, I
talked all at twenty three, twenty four year olds, even
(39:32):
twenty two year olds who just you know, sign up
what eyed bushytailed. You know, let me getting to it
a once, you know it, drinks have to work. It'd
be a lot. There's a lot more new graduate Trump
supporters than a one would imagine. So and I'm not
sure you know, we called the silent majority anymore, you know,
whatever they used to call it. I think it was
silent majority back in twenty or sixteen, but a lot
more than even I think I would have imagined.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
So I will say that, I will say I'm glad,
I mean, and thank you for the phone call. I
think it's a good point because I've experienced it in
my own house, John, thank you for the call with
uh you two with one of my kids, and we
had discussions and a little more to the right that
I imagine, and I said, good for you, man, do
(40:15):
your own thing. He might have a point the other issue,
because I don't think people are dying off. The other issue, though,
is on the left. There's definitely been a mobilization of
young voters. So which mobilization is going to be greater,
I don't know. I'm just guessing. I think it might
be on the left. I think the younger voter mobilization
(40:37):
may be a little bit bigger on the left than
on the right. But I think he makes a very
good point. Trump voters aren't simply just a bunch of
old guys. We got to go. Thank you very much.
It's been a ball I'll be back tomorrow night at
eight o'clock on WBZ. Rob Brooks, thank you, Marita l Rossa.
We appreciate it. This has been Nightside on WBZ.
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