September 5, 2024 • 41 mins
Gary Tanguay filled in on NightSide:
Thursday marked the start of the 2024 NFL season! The New England Patriots will take the field for their first regular season game this Sunday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Head Coach Jerod Mayo makes his coaching debut with Jacoby Brisset as the team’s starting quarterback. What’s your prediction for the Pats NFL season? Boston Globe sports reporter Nicole Yang joined Gary to discuss!
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Thursday marked the start of the 2024 NFL season! The New England Patriots will take the field for their first regular season game this Sunday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Head Coach Jerod Mayo makes his coaching debut with Jacoby Brisset as the team’s starting quarterback. What’s your prediction for the Pats NFL season? Boston Globe sports reporter Nicole Yang joined Gary to discuss!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice eyes with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm going mazy Boston's News radio.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
And is football season, folks? Twenty to sixteen? Now Baltimore
had scored twenty to sixteen entering the fourth quarter as
the Chiefs lead Baltimore in the season opener. And oh,
remember when the Patriots used to have that big Thursday
night game down at Ulllett Stadium in Foxborough and everybody
would be there. I even remember when Donald Trump would
(00:28):
be on the sideline. Yes, I did interview Donald Trump
one time on the sideline. He was hanging out with
the Crafts. He had millennia with him. And this is
when he was just a reality TV star. This wasn't
when he was running for president. That's when the Patriots
were massive. And to say their rebuilding is an understatement.
Joining us right now is Nicole Gang Boston Globe. Nicole,
(00:49):
thanks for coming on Night's side.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
So how's everything going atji Lette, how's everything in Foxborough?
What's going on? How is the optimism? Uh? First of all,
I got to talk about Look, we all know the rebuilding, right,
so we'll we'll get to all that stuff. But I
love my guy Mayo. I mean, I worked with Gerard
a couple of years at Comcast Sportsnet now NBC Sports Boston.
(01:14):
He's a great dude. What are your impressions of him
as the coach so far? And I know they haven't
played a game yet, but you know basically what you've done,
how you've dealt with them.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, I would say optimism within the building is very
high about Gerard, both from like an internal perspective with
the players and from dealing with the media perspective. Girod
has made it a point to be sort of more
friendly with the media. He's trying to be more transparent.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Then who who would that be? Who are we talking about?
Nicole who?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You know the who's now a media star? I mean,
that is just so hilarious. It's just it happens all
the time. They hate us, they hate us, and then
they want to be us. Uh, Gid's the best. Here's
the thing. You know, it's interesting because you know, I've
heard my guys. You know, is he you know, does
he have anything to do with the offense? Is he
(02:08):
a defensive coach? You know, how's that shaken out? I mean,
is he truly the head coach? Or is he the
head coach, but he's letting the offense do what they
want without any input. I don't know if you have
any insight on that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
So they've been stressing a collaborative approach since Gerard has
hired alongside Elliott Wolfe Alex and Alex van Pelt, so
I think he's involved. But that being said, has said
too that he's been relying on the experts in their field.
So I think he's referring to Alex van Pelt and
Elliott Wolf and about as final say over roster decisions,
(02:47):
who has final say over the quarterback decision, and they
still seem to be stressing this collaborative effort now at
the end of the day, I think Elliott has the
final say over the roster. Girod has the final say
over who's playing on the actual field, and then he's
taking input from Alex Vanpel, Elliott and even Robert Kraft.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
And that's the way it should be. That's the way
it should be. That's absolutely it's Elliott Wolf's team. You know,
he's the GM and his dad, Ron Wolf, was very
successful with the Green Bay Packers. I've heard good things
about Elliott Wolf. I think it's too damn hard. Excuse me.
You know, Bill Parcells to pick the groceries and also
(03:30):
cook the dinner. I just think it's too freaking hard.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And I think, to the man we were just talking about, like,
that's one of the reasons why they wanted to move
on from Bill Belijack, because that's just sort of become
antiquated model to have the coach handling also personnel responsibilities.
Now do those things work in tandem, of course, But
I think that they like the fact that there's not
these unilateral decisions being made across the board and that
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it is sort of people being specialized in their departments,
but there's still a lot of collaboration across the board.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Do you how's Alex van Pelt then? Have you had
a chance to talk to him much?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, I mean I think everyone's just waiting to see
what the offense actually looks like. Like there are people
that think it's not going to be as bad as
we think, and then there of course are definitely people
that are justified in thinking that it's going to be
a disaster, especially based off of the performance in the
preseason finale. But Alex Vmpell understands the opportunity he has.
(04:33):
He hasn't really had this stage before in terms of
play calling, so I think he wants to prove himself
he understands for what's that stake here. And I think
that's why they brought in so many people that are
familiar with his system in Cleveland, because they're really trusting
him and leaning into that system.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I think the poor guy's screwed. And i'll tell you why.
Billy O'Brien's a hell of a coach. Okay, Billy O'Brien
came back here and he was just he didn't have
a shot because after Bill, you know, Bill missed everything
put when he put a special teams coach in his
defensive coach in charge of the offense, and it just
killed the quarterback. It just messed everything up and it
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was beyond repair. And Billy O'Brien came in and really
couldn't do anything with it. I don't know what Alex
Van Pelt's going to be able to do. He's got
no offensive line. Jacoby Burssett on a scale of one
to ten as a quarterback in the NFL, he's probably
a four. I don't even know who the receivers are.
I don't know how we were going to be able
to listen if they win five games because of the offense.
(05:39):
Give Alex Van Pelt a contract. That's what I think.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, I mean, that's all fair. I think the offensive
line is obviously the biggest question for the team right now.
I think there are going to be like a very
run heavy team. I think he's stressed the importance of
the running game. Ramandre Stevenson has said that he wants
to be a featured back. In the past, Patriots sort
of did an alternating system one drive on, one drive off,
but Remandra has said that he's ready for a bigger role.
(06:07):
I think that's going to be the case. But we'll
see if like Ramandre will get the touches. But we'll
see if any production will come along with that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right, And it's not cool in the NFL to play
that type of game. It's boring. People want to light
it up, they want the fantasy numbers and so forth. Personally,
I don't mind the running game. I think that you
have to have balance to try to keep your quarterback alive,
and so I think you're gonna have a running game
as they rebuild. Quite quite frankly, joining us right now
(06:39):
from the Boston Globe, Nicole Yang, Nicole, can you hang on?
We got to take a break. Yeah, no problem, Okay,
talking about the Patriots in the upcoming season right here
on WBC's Night Side.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Radio, and welcome back to Cole Yang. Join this here
from the Boston Globe as the NFL season is underwear
and the Patriots open up at one o'clock this weekend
in Cincinnati. Are you traveling with the team? Nicole? I
am yeah, Oh you get to go to Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yes, the Joys of Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
We're on to Cincinnati. How about that? So is there
anybody is there something you see in the offense? You
mentioned Stevenson? Are there some names? Are there some diamonds
in the rough that you're seeing that as this team rebuilds,
and man they are rebuilding that down the road you
might say could contribute.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah. I think Jalen Pole for sure. Once of the team,
He's proven to be just like a viable, hard working guy.
I think to Mario Douglas is picking up where he
that's a fast year now of Tomrio is a bit
of a smaller guy names that stand out. Fence hunter
(08:02):
Henry had a bit of an injury because he was
out for the end of training camp, but I expect
him to be a popular target regardless of the quarterback.
There are a few names. None of them are flashy
per se, but or I guess Henry's not, but Mario
Douglass and Jalen Polk Firs Sir. Would be building blocks.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Do you think there's any point this season we see
Drake may.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I do, and I think that's a really interesting dilemma
for the Patriots because I think as of right now,
they definitely want to take things patiently. Just don't think
that Jacoby will be able to keep this team afloat
for sort of the things we've been for the reasons
we've been discussing so far, and that seems to be
(08:51):
the standard based on what Elliott saying is that as
long as Jakoby does his job and plays the way
that they think he's able to, then he'll start the
entire season. But Peter Guts well, given their deficiencies on offense,
I just don't see them being in a position where
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the pressure doesn't count them to make a change.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Do you think I worry about the quarterbacks getting killed.
That's the thing that's the problem, you know. I don't
want their draft pick to get hurt. Now Brissette could,
he's he's in the line of fire too. If Brissette
went down, Heaven forbid knock on wood. I hope it
doesn't happen. I hate to see players get hurt. Would
they automatically go to the kid or would they bring
in somebody else. I think they should bring in somebody
(09:36):
else because I don't want this kid to get destroyed.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, So that's another interesting one that as of right now,
they've said and and and can't play even there, And
it seems to run contrast to what their overall dement
is or even next year. So it definitely seems odd
(10:07):
that they're comfortable right currently.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Nicole. Yeah, yeah, Nicole, we're having trouble with you. You're
breaking up on us here, So we're going to try
to rectify the problem with your phone signal because we're
only hearing like every other syllable, you know, one of
those one of those deals. So Nicole Yang is our
guest here from the Boston Globe talking about the upcoming
Patriots season. Now, defensively for the Patriots, things should be
(10:34):
better than they are on offense. You know, Okay Nicole
is back with us. Okay, Nicole, hopefully we have a
better signal now. So I mean, if you were to
guessed what week would we see may I mean, do
you think you would see him in the first half
of the season or maybe in the final five or
six games.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I think it totally depends on the performance of the team.
So I could see week five maybe being the earliest possibility.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You think they would put him out that quick.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I think it's on the table that gives him a
month to sort of get familiar with preparing for a game.
It's against Miami at home. I think the first four
games are probably, barring injury, off the table, just given
the caliber of opponent and the circumstances. So I think
week five is probably the earliest. Week eight against the
(11:29):
Jets at home could also be a possibility. That's also
a team that they've played in Week three, so maybe
there's a little familiarity in his preparations. Coming back from
the bye is a possibility. So I mean, as of
right now, without seeing their record and how things go,
I think Week five, Week eight, All different points of
(11:50):
the season are on the table, but I would like
I wouldn't expect them to have his first start be
in London, for example, because of just how interrupt that
can be to a routine. But I haven't ruled out
beginning and middle or a full red shirt ear. I
just truly think everything's on the table without seeing results.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Well, okay, now what do you like about him? Do
you like him.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Drake?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I think he's flashed his arm strength, basically all the
skills that made him worthy of a third overall pick.
He can move, he seems comfortable in the pocket, like
he said he would be ready to start, and I
think he looked it. And we talk about the quarterbacks
getting killed or facing pressure, and he seems to be
(12:39):
handling it well. And you look at Joe Burrow's rookie season,
he was sacked the most number of times in the league. Now,
Joe Burrow is probably maybe a tear up in terms
of a prospects compared to Drake. But Drake is still
like a high level prospect and higher than I think
the quarterback that is maybe causing a lot of mac
(13:00):
jones and that I think he'll be able to handle
pressure better than.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Mac and that, Yeah he's better than that.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, what what broke.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Mac Jones down in terms of like his confidence and
things like that, Like I don't expect Drake to have
the same uh trajectory.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, I mean, look look at where they both played
college ball. Mac Jones was at Alabama. He was Alabama,
he was surrounded by first round picks. Everything was perfect,
Everything happened to be in place. He's a serviceable quarterback.
Mac Jones is a serviceable quarterback. If you have great
players around him, they can do very good things. But
(13:39):
he's not going to carry a team. I mean, Mac
just isn't going to do that. I think that the
coaching staff really threw him under the bus. This kid,
Drake May. I think it's a different situation. I think
there's much more upside with Drake May than when Mac
Jones And yeah, you know, I'm sorry, go ahead continue.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And what you're saying too is true of what they
saw in Drake at North Carolina. And obviously the NFL
is a different caliber of competition than North Carolina college football.
But Drake wasn't playing necessarily behind a sound line or
with uber talented receivers, but he still made plays happen,
(14:22):
and so I think you have to trust in your
evaluation of him. Of course, you don't want to rush
his development and their plans. So far, the patient seems
to be paying off because he has been making strides
throughout training camp and now into the preseason. But I
think you do also have to believe in the player
that you did draft.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Do you think he's exceeded expectations in the preseason, because
I think he.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Has, I don't know about maybe exceeded expectations. He was
a third overall pick and they did view him very highly.
I think he's flat. He definitely has come on really strong.
I think maybe he benefited from the fact that he
only played six snaps in the preseason in the first
(15:08):
preseason game, and that through maybe the first two weeks
of training camp it was very obvious that Jacoby was
the better quarterback, so the expectations sort of were low
and then he really jumped up. So but I think
he's he's on par with what they were expecting out
of him. They've always been high on him.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So what do you think of the AFC East? You know,
I don't know, did you make a prediction on the
Patriots having did you have to pick in the globe?
How many wins do you think they're going to have?
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I picked four, that's about right.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I get that. Do you remember who who the victories are?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
We didn't help to specify, But I think Tennessee is
a winnable game. I think there's always some sort of
like foot like last year when they beat Buffalo. I
think that's the possibility. Indianapolis so and then who knows,
maybe the defense wins them a game. So I think
(16:09):
there are four wins, though at most on paper as
things stand right now.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So what do you think of the AFC East? I mean,
this is still Buffalo's thing. Any thoughts on the Jets Miami?
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Uh, it wouldn't surprise me if Buffalo takes a step back.
I think the Jets, if Aaron Rodgers stays healthy, definitely
have a chance. A lot of people have them going
to the conference championship game, maybe even the super Bowl.
So it wouldn't surprise me at the Jets. They're just
loaded with talent, cake the division title.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I feel bad for Jet fans. They need a little love.
They do they need a little love? Come on, they
need something here. They need they and I mean Rogers,
he's out of his mind. He's a nut job. But
if he does stay healthy, you know, they can certainly
get something done. I'm surprised that Buffalo Buffalo's were rest
a little bit, haven't they.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, I mean they lost Stefon Diggs. Of course they
have Keon Coleman as a young wide receiver, but it
takes time for rookie wide receivers to come on, even
like I'm on, we're all Saint Brown, like the players
that now are sort of household names like their rookie years,
they don't really come on till, like I don't know,
week ten and start putting up like big numbers. So
(17:23):
it just wouldn't surprise me if it takes them a
while to sort of find their groove in their rebuild
is too strong. But like retool, is.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
It still Kansas City's deal here? I mean, I haven't
even checked the score on what's going on. I know
Baltimore scored, but is it still Kansas City's league or
championship to lose?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I picked the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. I
think there are a lot of fun hot up and
coming teams. The Lions, the Texans. But Kansas City knows
what it takes as cliches that sounds to win a
Super Bowl. They know the pacing of a season, they
know how to sign magnitude to wins and losses, and
they know just like mentally, how long of a season
(18:07):
it is to get to February. So I think right
now there's no reason to doubt them. And I think
there are teams on the rise for sure, but none
is strong enough to knock off the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, Kansas City twenty seven to seventeen, with five minutes
to go leaving Baltimore right now. They get the quarterback.
That's it. They get the quarterback and mister Taylor Swift.
So that's that's all. Lady. Is that going to last?
What do you think is that going to last? The Swifties,
the swift Mania, Yeah, well, the swift mania, but the relationship.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Oh with I see. I mean, who's to say. I
think they seem happy she's at the game tonight. They
seem to be making it work. But they're also two
very high profile individuals, so who knows. Ben Affleck and
Jalo broke up for the second time, so anything can happen.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, but I mean, come on, Nicle, we all saw
that one coming. I mean, that was that was a
no brainer as long. Here's here's always the issue because
we saw it with Brady and Gizelle. Everything's great until
you stopped playing. When guys stop playing, they've got nothing
to do. And the Kelsey Brothers have a great podcast.
(19:26):
They're you know, they're very uh you know, I can
see Travis. He could go into movies, he could go
into the booth. But when guys stopped playing, things change.
And she obviously she's a megastar, she's an international mania,
you know. I mean, if she's a ten, now he's
(19:46):
a three. You know, if he stops playing, she's still
a ten and he's like he's a negative one. That's
where it always gets interesting. Mark my words on that.
The problem is when they stop playing. But right now
it looks good. I just wish sometimes I just you know,
sometimes when he gets in front of a microphone, he
(20:08):
acts like I'm moron. You know, he growls, he's yes,
says something, he wraps something, he yells something. I'm like,
just can't you just be normal? Just be normal? You
know what I mean. That's that's that's all I want, no, no know,
maybe she'll maybe she'll get him to grow up. Well, listen,
we we really appreciate you coming on, Nicole. Great job,
(20:28):
best of luck on the road this year with the
team covering the patch and believe me, you are going
to earn every dime the Boston Globe pays you.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Thanks so much for having me, Gary, Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Nicole Yang joining us from the Boston Globe here on
WBC's night Side with you until twelve midnight. Right here
on BZ, Gary Tangling in for Dan Ray. We'll be
right back.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Night side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Hi, Dan, I can thank you very much. Gary Tangling
for Dan Ray tonight six Month, seven two five, four
to ten thirty. If you want to jump on board
here until twelve midnight. We'd like to thank all of
our guests for coming on this evening discussing discussing the
M cast with Devin MacCarthy earlier on why do we
even need it? Should it be a grad requirement? I
say no, I don't think so. And then so the
(21:22):
dealer is, if you flunk the M cast in the
tenth grade, you don't graduate, so you don't have a
chance to make it up your junior or senior year.
If you flunk as a sophomore, you do not graduate.
What that's crazy. Kids will probably just drop out of school.
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And according to the numbers, one percent of the students
who take the m cast fail the m Cast in Massachusetts.
I had a great conversation this evening. If you're just
joining as you can catch it the podcast online tomorrow
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(22:52):
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And that's what's been happening tonight on Night Side. Coming
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up tomorrow night at ten o'clock, we will be joined
by a couple of attorneys, Attorney Bill kick Him and
also Bob George. And what we're going to do at
ten o'clock is following the Karen Reid broadcast the first
hour of that on ABC. We will break that down,
(23:34):
see if there's any new information. Will it have an
impact on the upcoming trial? Here's what I wonder. So
Karen Reid has an interview with ABC. She's still facing
a charge of second degree murder. They couldn't make that
go away. Now I'm not a legal expert, but I
(23:56):
was surprised at that. I thought the second degree murder charge,
from what I've read and what I've seen, that was
a stretch. I really thought that was a stretch. Manslaughter
from what I understand, it can be an accident. She
didn't mean to hit him. There's still a lot of
(24:17):
question marks with this whole thing. There really are. It's
not I just it's not open and shut. There'll be
some discussion about bruises that could those bruises have happened
by getting hit by a car, and so forth. Was
the victim wearing a coat, not wearing a coat if
(24:39):
he's outside, wouldn't even been wearing a coat. I mean,
those are all things that will be discussed, and we'll
talk about it with a couple of the fraternities. As
I just mentioned, you can a television show sway an outcome.
Of course it can. Of course it can mean they're
going to pick a jury coming up for the next
trial after an everybody is going to see this. Everybody
(25:02):
is going to see this Karen Reid thing here in Boston.
There's no way anybody can get on the jury and say, yeah, no,
I didn't see it. Not a chance, not a chance.
And even if they're not supposed to look at it.
If you're going to be on the jury, aren't you
going to be curious if somebody says, oh, you've been
selected to the jury. Didn't you see her interview back?
(25:24):
And blah blah, blah black in September. Come on, but
the second degree murderer, I don't see that sticking. And
I'm really surprised that they kept that, really surprised. The
trial just will not go away in the Karen Reid case.
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So that's coming up tomorrow night at ten o'clock right
here on WBZ six one seven, two thirty. The telephone
number here Gary Tangling in for Danna Way Uh. And
this is night Side that we talked about tonight, which,
when I mean school shooting is just brutal right, I
(26:06):
mean it even pains me to even talk about it.
But the father of Colt Gray, who's going away forever
for murdering four people to teach us two students in
Georgia in the school shooting. This week, the father, Colin Gray,
has been charged. He's been charged with four counts of
(26:29):
involuntary manslaughter in two counts of second degree murder for
allowing his son to possess a weapon. He faces ten
to thirty years in prison. We've seen this before in
Michigan with the parents of that school shooter went away
for ten years, and they were idiots. They were morons,
(26:53):
absolute morons. They had been brought into school. They had
seen the warning signs with their kid and they just
ignored it. But this is, you know, when it comes
to trying to do something about these school shootings, this
is where we're at, throwing the parents in jail two.
It's desperate times six, one, seven, two, five, fourteen thirty
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the telephone them. Let's grab some calls here before we
say goodbye, Mary, Lou and Lowell. You're up on WBC's
Night Side.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Hi Gary, Yes, how are you? I'm good? How are
you good? Thanks for doing the show.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Thanks, I like you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
I like what you do it. Okay, Kevin me tomorrow night.
You're going to beyond? Are you having two lawyers? Is
that what I understood?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
What we're going to do is yes. ABC is putting
on an interview with Karen Reid beginning at nine o'clock.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
So I was told it was at ten, and you
said you were doing it at ten. That's why I'm
calling you.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
No, no, no, I was It's my understanding on ABC.
It's it's actually two hours. It's from nine to eleven. Okay,
eleven o'clock it's too late for us. After the first hour,
we're going to have our ourt Turning Friends are going
to be on and we're going to from what we've
seen in the first hour, we are going to break
(28:11):
it down. Okay, so Bob, George and Bill kick Him
will join us, and lack of a better term, it's
sort of a postgame show of what we've seen with her. Now,
if we wait till eleven o'clock, that's a little too late,
but it's going to be two hours. So we're going
to take a look at the first hour. Then we're
going to talk about it, and of course you can
listen to it on the podcast on the iHeart Radio
(28:33):
app as well.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
You know, so I can't do that. I don't have
that stuff. I'm from the old school.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
But you can figure it out, don't you.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
No, I can't.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
It's not hard.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Oh don't even you don't know me. I can't. I don't.
I know I can't do it. I know I can't.
I can't even work my phone.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Do you think I want?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I'm on a landline right now.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
God bless you. At least you're not going to be
dropping out. You're not going to be drunk.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
And I don't have TV either, So I am going
to a friend's house to watch it tomorrow night, but
I didn't want to miss what you're doing with the
lawyers or the attorneys.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
What I would recommend is that you know because there
is a second hour involved, and again we didn't want
to wait till eleven o'clock. Is if you watch it
at nine, just turn us on at ten, and kind
of I will do that.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
I didn't. I was told the show was on at
ten to eleven, not your show, the twenty twenty show, right,
And I was told it was on at ten, and
you said you're going to do yours at ten, So
I said, I can't watch and listen to both of them.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
At the same Well, it's nine to eleven, I think
on twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
I hope you're right. I hope you right.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Well, I am right. I mean, that's that's what that's
what I've read.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I mean, that's okay. Well, I heard on the radio.
I'm from Lowell, and I listened to a little station
in the morning before I go to work, and they
said the show was on at ten o'clock tomorrow night.
That's what I'm telling you. I heard. So they might
have screwed up the time. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well, I appreciate the phone call there.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Well, I appreciate you being there in place of Dan.
Dan Dan the man. Okay, my friend.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Dan is the man.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Let me tell you right now, I don't know you.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Can hold a candle and the two of you, I
like both of you.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Well, we tried, but boy, when it comes to the
legal stuff in the in the polityes.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
Yeah, absolutely, dance the man.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Well, you're doing a hell of a job. Keep it up. Okay,
thank you, Gary, We'll see you.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I appreciate the phone call right here on WBC's night
side six seven thirty. The telephone number if you want
to get on board. We have another ten to fifteen
minutes to go here. So anyways, as I was saying,
the father of Colt Grey, Colin Gray, is now, I mean,
this guy's going to go to jail probably for ten
to thirty years because his kid had a gun. And
he is quoted as saying in the past that his
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son was a responsible gun owner. It seems to me
right now that if you are a household with firearms,
and I'm so I know how you feel. You're saying, tangle,
you get off your high horse. I have family members
that are hunters from Maine. Almost everybody I grew up
with hunted gun cabinets. Put the bullets in one part
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of the house, put the guns in the other part
of the house, the whole bit. So I've been around it,
and I understand that there are a majority of responsible
gun owners. But the way it's going right now, you
cannot leave a firearm or a weapon with anybody under
the age of eighteen in the house. You just can't.
You got to lock it up. You've got to lock
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it up, especially if the kid is having trouble, and
there were some signs that he was having trouble. The
parents were getting divorced, he was struggling with that probably,
and we have seen this in the past. This certainly
happened with the shooting in Connecticut, where the parent and
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the child bond over the weapon. They buy him the weapon,
they take him to the shooting range, they go hunting
with them. It's something they do together, so they don't
feel they need to take the weapon away. But that's
what happened in Newtown, Connecticut, when the mother bought the
weapon for the for her son and he ended up
taking her life with it. That's where we're at folks,
(32:17):
you get kids and you get guns, you gotta lock
them up. You gotta lock them up. Final segment here
on Nightside, coming up on WBZ right after this.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Describe some couple of calls here as we finished strong
on WBC's Nightside six one, seven, two thirty. Let's go
to Jack in bed for Jack. You're up on WDBZ.
What's going on? How you doing? Jack?
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Right?
Speaker 6 (32:48):
So?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I agree with you, and you know in this day
and age that we're in right now, with with with
all this chaos and the whatever whateveryone's mind is in
right now. Yeah, you're right under I'll say, even under seventeen,
you got you gotta keep the pieces locked up. Even
if we're talking the you know, rifles, baby guns, whatever, Okay,
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they're gotta be under lock and key, okay, and total
supervision if they if they come out or whatever. Now,
I'm gonna give everyone one a little reality check here, okay.
And I'm gonna get just maybe a little off topic.
If you got the money and you know the right people,
meaning and well underworld, I'm assuming in this case Okay,
(33:35):
you can get whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Oh you mean talking about buying weapons, of course? Yeah, yeah,
I understand that. Yeah, of course you can. Yeah, I
got it. You know when you talk.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
About you had a million dollars, like, sorry, go ahead,
you know.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I mean, if you're talking about gun control, people can
make the argument that if somebody wants to get a weapon,
they're going to get a weapon. You know, then then
the argument would that is, well, you have to make
it more difficult to buy an AR fifteen, and you
go back and forth on it. I think if that's
the point you're making, I am yeah, I understand exactly.
Speaker 9 (34:09):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It's a no, there's no uh. What's the expression I'm
looking for. There's no uh, you know it's a it's a.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Well, I think there is. And thank you for the
phone call. I appreciate it. Check coming from the state
of Maine. There is a right of passage where a
parent and a young person. It can be a father
and a daughter, a mother and a sonomy whatever. Where
you go hunting and you know, you get your first rifle,
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you get your first twenty two, and you go hunting
with your dad. You are hunting with your uncles, you
go on hunting trips sixteen or seventeen. I get it.
I've seen it. It wasn't for me. My dad didn't hunt.
I did not, un A lot of my friends did.
And I witness it. And it's a tradition and it's
a right of passions. And a kid gets his first deer,
(35:02):
it's a big deal. They take the deer, they cut
up the meat, they freeze it, they eat it, they
make vedicine. It's all good, it's all good. But now
we're at a point in time in this country where
we're in a mental health crisis and you cannot leave
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weapons exposed with young people. You just can't. Now when
I talk about families and who are gun owners, and
the kids are fine, they're probably obviously the majority are.
But if you're the adult in the room, the cabinet
has to be locked so people like cold Gray can't
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get them if they are mentally ill. That's the way
it has to be. All right, Let's go to Tina
and Marlborough. Tina, you're up on WBZ.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
Hey, Gary, I am calling to say I totally agree
with you. So I'm calling as a person who has
been a teacher of young kids. I love young kids.
I am also calling as a woman who does not
have children because I made a choice not to have children,
because being a parent is a huge responsibility. Yes, and
I'm tired of parents not taking responsibility for their kids
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because you're a parent from the day you conceive until
the day you die, right, and parents are responsible for
their kids. And I'm going to say up until twenty one,
parents should be responsible for their kids in this in
a gun situation, I mean, kids can't drink until they're
twenty one. They're not responsible enough to drink. They sure
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as hell shouldn't be responsible enough to have access to
a gun.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Well, I mean, if the kid is living at home,
if they're young. You know, obviously I hear you. I
understand what you're saying. I think it might be tough
to do because you have the right to vote at eighteen.
But we're on the same page, totally on the same
We're totally on the same page. And the public shootings
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are so out of control in this country. Is we
have to go to extreme measures to stop them because
the government's certainly not going to help us out with
any sort of gun control.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
Yeah, which there should be, and at the end of
the day, I'm sorry. Like you know, having been in
the school systems as well, everybody parents want to point
their fingers that everybody else though what their kids are doing.
And I'm sorry, but you had the kids because you
wanted to have kids. You take responsibility for them.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Well, I agree, Tina, You're right on that because I've
seen that where you know, when I came home from
school and if there was a note from the teacher
as I go, old bastard on you, or if there
was a you know it, it wasn't the teacher's fault.
It wasn't even disputable. It was on me, and you
had to deal with it. And now, and this is
my feeling teen is because parents are so insecure. We
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feel that if our child is struggling academically or socially
in school and mist behaving, it's a reflection on us.
So if my kid is messing up, that makes me
look like a bad parent, So it can't be me,
It must be.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
The teacher, right, yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
And that's what I think parents think. And it's it's no,
that's not it your parents. Your kid is not you.
You know, if my kid screws up you got to
support the teacher. I'm with you one hundred percent absolutely,
and it's not and it's not happening.
Speaker 9 (38:19):
Yeah. So two things I have to say. All my
friends have kids, I'm like, especially when they're teenagers, if
your kids hate you, you just look at them and say,
thank you, I'm doing my job.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Well, that's true too, and I'm terrible than that's what.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Your kids are supposed to do in their teenagers.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, the line, I am too. I've been as I
can tell you as a parent, I've always been too
worried about being liked by my kids. You're absolutely right,
but I would not allow them to have a gun.
That's where I draw the line. Tina.
Speaker 9 (38:52):
One other thing said you can go onto somebody else.
But so I asked this question many years ago when
people have said there haven't been studies in this. But
I don't think a lot of our gun violence is
going to all of our video games like Call of Duty,
where you sit back, you relax, you turn on your
call of duty and the answer to everything is to
go shoot up everybody around you. And I can't believe
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that there is no correlation between that and the gun
violence we're seeing. I can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Why I agree with you, and if and if and
if any and if anybody says differently, you're a fool.
Speaker 9 (39:25):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Of course there is. Of course there is a correlation.
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (39:33):
Of course there is the parents letting them just play
that game.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Oh yeah, I mean I've done it. My kid plays it,
my son played it, you know. Yeah, you're right, of course, yeah,
of course there is.
Speaker 9 (39:47):
And yeah, and I just think that again, that's parenting,
and it's just it's a shame. It is a shame,
and it's a shame that that's how it's brought up,
that's that it's in our culture. I agree that that's
in a way to relax. So those are my two cents.
And I do have to say when you're filling in,
I have listened to a couple of times, and I
enjoy listening to you. You had a teacher on a
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couple of weeks ago. I listened to. It was just
a great conversation. I learned a lot. It's just nice
having you on board, Tina.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Thank you very much. I appreciate the call.
Speaker 9 (40:17):
Thanks appreciate you too.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Okay, we'll see you later. Eric and Adelbor you get
thirty seconds.
Speaker 10 (40:23):
Sorry, I'm okay, thirty seconds is all I need. Basically,
I'd like to point out that I would say, at
least in the fifties and sixties, perhaps not so much
in the coastal liberal.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
States like Massachusetts or California, but in Flyover country in
terms of athletic activity, rifling and rifles classes was part
of a daily public education which actually took the stigma.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Out of the you know, the whatever kind.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Of evil pizasmic goes a long with a gun. And
there was very very few, if any at all, regular
school shootings with teenagers back then.
Speaker 10 (41:08):
So basically the.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
Problem we have now is that we've taken things like
that away from the children and give them much, in
my opinion, much more degenerate, radical, disgusting things to take
the place of self defense.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
And yeah, I mean, I just have to cut you off,
but I appreciate the call. Please call earlier next time.
I thank you for your input on this, Rob Brooks,
thank you, great job, Marita LaRosa, thank you very much.
We'll be back tomorrow night eight o'clock right here in
WBC's Night Side
It's nice eyes with Dan Ray.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm going mazy Boston's News radio.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
And is football season, folks? Twenty to sixteen? Now Baltimore
had scored twenty to sixteen entering the fourth quarter as
the Chiefs lead Baltimore in the season opener. And oh,
remember when the Patriots used to have that big Thursday
night game down at Ulllett Stadium in Foxborough and everybody
would be there. I even remember when Donald Trump would
(00:28):
be on the sideline. Yes, I did interview Donald Trump
one time on the sideline. He was hanging out with
the Crafts. He had millennia with him. And this is
when he was just a reality TV star. This wasn't
when he was running for president. That's when the Patriots
were massive. And to say their rebuilding is an understatement.
Joining us right now is Nicole Gang Boston Globe. Nicole,
(00:49):
thanks for coming on Night's side.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
So how's everything going atji Lette, how's everything in Foxborough?
What's going on? How is the optimism? Uh? First of all,
I got to talk about Look, we all know the rebuilding, right,
so we'll we'll get to all that stuff. But I
love my guy Mayo. I mean, I worked with Gerard
a couple of years at Comcast Sportsnet now NBC Sports Boston.
(01:14):
He's a great dude. What are your impressions of him
as the coach so far? And I know they haven't
played a game yet, but you know basically what you've done,
how you've dealt with them.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yeah, I would say optimism within the building is very
high about Gerard, both from like an internal perspective with
the players and from dealing with the media perspective. Girod
has made it a point to be sort of more
friendly with the media. He's trying to be more transparent.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Then who who would that be? Who are we talking about?
Nicole who?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
You know the who's now a media star? I mean,
that is just so hilarious. It's just it happens all
the time. They hate us, they hate us, and then
they want to be us. Uh, Gid's the best. Here's
the thing. You know, it's interesting because you know, I've
heard my guys. You know, is he you know, does
he have anything to do with the offense? Is he
(02:08):
a defensive coach? You know, how's that shaken out? I mean,
is he truly the head coach? Or is he the
head coach, but he's letting the offense do what they
want without any input. I don't know if you have
any insight on that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
So they've been stressing a collaborative approach since Gerard has
hired alongside Elliott Wolfe Alex and Alex van Pelt, so
I think he's involved. But that being said, has said
too that he's been relying on the experts in their field.
So I think he's referring to Alex van Pelt and
Elliott Wolf and about as final say over roster decisions,
(02:47):
who has final say over the quarterback decision, and they
still seem to be stressing this collaborative effort now at
the end of the day, I think Elliott has the
final say over the roster. Girod has the final say
over who's playing on the actual field, and then he's
taking input from Alex Vanpel, Elliott and even Robert Kraft.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
And that's the way it should be. That's the way
it should be. That's absolutely it's Elliott Wolf's team. You know,
he's the GM and his dad, Ron Wolf, was very
successful with the Green Bay Packers. I've heard good things
about Elliott Wolf. I think it's too damn hard. Excuse me.
You know, Bill Parcells to pick the groceries and also
(03:30):
cook the dinner. I just think it's too freaking hard.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
And I think, to the man we were just talking about, like,
that's one of the reasons why they wanted to move
on from Bill Belijack, because that's just sort of become
antiquated model to have the coach handling also personnel responsibilities.
Now do those things work in tandem, of course, But
I think that they like the fact that there's not
these unilateral decisions being made across the board and that
(03:58):
it is sort of people being specialized in their departments,
but there's still a lot of collaboration across the board.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Do you how's Alex van Pelt then? Have you had
a chance to talk to him much?
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, I mean I think everyone's just waiting to see
what the offense actually looks like. Like there are people
that think it's not going to be as bad as
we think, and then there of course are definitely people
that are justified in thinking that it's going to be
a disaster, especially based off of the performance in the
preseason finale. But Alex Vmpell understands the opportunity he has.
(04:33):
He hasn't really had this stage before in terms of
play calling, so I think he wants to prove himself
he understands for what's that stake here. And I think
that's why they brought in so many people that are
familiar with his system in Cleveland, because they're really trusting
him and leaning into that system.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I think the poor guy's screwed. And i'll tell you why.
Billy O'Brien's a hell of a coach. Okay, Billy O'Brien
came back here and he was just he didn't have
a shot because after Bill, you know, Bill missed everything
put when he put a special teams coach in his
defensive coach in charge of the offense, and it just
killed the quarterback. It just messed everything up and it
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was beyond repair. And Billy O'Brien came in and really
couldn't do anything with it. I don't know what Alex
Van Pelt's going to be able to do. He's got
no offensive line. Jacoby Burssett on a scale of one
to ten as a quarterback in the NFL, he's probably
a four. I don't even know who the receivers are.
I don't know how we were going to be able
to listen if they win five games because of the offense.
(05:39):
Give Alex Van Pelt a contract. That's what I think.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, I mean, that's all fair. I think the offensive
line is obviously the biggest question for the team right now.
I think there are going to be like a very
run heavy team. I think he's stressed the importance of
the running game. Ramandre Stevenson has said that he wants
to be a featured back. In the past, Patriots sort
of did an alternating system one drive on, one drive off,
but Remandra has said that he's ready for a bigger role.
(06:07):
I think that's going to be the case. But we'll
see if like Ramandre will get the touches. But we'll
see if any production will come along with that.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Right, And it's not cool in the NFL to play
that type of game. It's boring. People want to light
it up, they want the fantasy numbers and so forth. Personally,
I don't mind the running game. I think that you
have to have balance to try to keep your quarterback alive,
and so I think you're gonna have a running game
as they rebuild. Quite quite frankly, joining us right now
(06:39):
from the Boston Globe, Nicole Yang, Nicole, can you hang on?
We got to take a break. Yeah, no problem, Okay,
talking about the Patriots in the upcoming season right here
on WBC's Night Side.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Radio, and welcome back to Cole Yang. Join this here
from the Boston Globe as the NFL season is underwear
and the Patriots open up at one o'clock this weekend
in Cincinnati. Are you traveling with the team? Nicole? I
am yeah, Oh you get to go to Cincinnati.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yes, the Joys of Cincinnati.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
We're on to Cincinnati. How about that? So is there
anybody is there something you see in the offense? You
mentioned Stevenson? Are there some names? Are there some diamonds
in the rough that you're seeing that as this team rebuilds,
and man they are rebuilding that down the road you
might say could contribute.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah. I think Jalen Pole for sure. Once of the team,
He's proven to be just like a viable, hard working guy.
I think to Mario Douglas is picking up where he
that's a fast year now of Tomrio is a bit
of a smaller guy names that stand out. Fence hunter
(08:02):
Henry had a bit of an injury because he was
out for the end of training camp, but I expect
him to be a popular target regardless of the quarterback.
There are a few names. None of them are flashy
per se, but or I guess Henry's not, but Mario
Douglass and Jalen Polk Firs Sir. Would be building blocks.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Do you think there's any point this season we see
Drake may.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I do, and I think that's a really interesting dilemma
for the Patriots because I think as of right now,
they definitely want to take things patiently. Just don't think
that Jacoby will be able to keep this team afloat
for sort of the things we've been for the reasons
we've been discussing so far, and that seems to be
(08:51):
the standard based on what Elliott saying is that as
long as Jakoby does his job and plays the way
that they think he's able to, then he'll start the
entire season. But Peter Guts well, given their deficiencies on offense,
I just don't see them being in a position where
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the pressure doesn't count them to make a change.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Do you think I worry about the quarterbacks getting killed.
That's the thing that's the problem, you know. I don't
want their draft pick to get hurt. Now Brissette could,
he's he's in the line of fire too. If Brissette
went down, Heaven forbid knock on wood. I hope it
doesn't happen. I hate to see players get hurt. Would
they automatically go to the kid or would they bring
in somebody else. I think they should bring in somebody
(09:36):
else because I don't want this kid to get destroyed.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yeah, So that's another interesting one that as of right now,
they've said and and and can't play even there, And
it seems to run contrast to what their overall dement
is or even next year. So it definitely seems odd
(10:07):
that they're comfortable right currently.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Nicole. Yeah, yeah, Nicole, we're having trouble with you. You're
breaking up on us here, So we're going to try
to rectify the problem with your phone signal because we're
only hearing like every other syllable, you know, one of
those one of those deals. So Nicole Yang is our
guest here from the Boston Globe talking about the upcoming
Patriots season. Now, defensively for the Patriots, things should be
(10:34):
better than they are on offense. You know, Okay Nicole
is back with us. Okay, Nicole, hopefully we have a
better signal now. So I mean, if you were to
guessed what week would we see may I mean, do
you think you would see him in the first half
of the season or maybe in the final five or
six games.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
I think it totally depends on the performance of the team.
So I could see week five maybe being the earliest possibility.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You think they would put him out that quick.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
I think it's on the table that gives him a
month to sort of get familiar with preparing for a game.
It's against Miami at home. I think the first four
games are probably, barring injury, off the table, just given
the caliber of opponent and the circumstances. So I think
week five is probably the earliest. Week eight against the
(11:29):
Jets at home could also be a possibility. That's also
a team that they've played in Week three, so maybe
there's a little familiarity in his preparations. Coming back from
the bye is a possibility. So I mean, as of
right now, without seeing their record and how things go,
I think Week five, Week eight, All different points of
(11:50):
the season are on the table, but I would like
I wouldn't expect them to have his first start be
in London, for example, because of just how interrupt that
can be to a routine. But I haven't ruled out
beginning and middle or a full red shirt ear. I
just truly think everything's on the table without seeing results.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Well, okay, now what do you like about him? Do
you like him.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
Drake?
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
I think he's flashed his arm strength, basically all the
skills that made him worthy of a third overall pick.
He can move, he seems comfortable in the pocket, like
he said he would be ready to start, and I
think he looked it. And we talk about the quarterbacks
getting killed or facing pressure, and he seems to be
(12:39):
handling it well. And you look at Joe Burrow's rookie season,
he was sacked the most number of times in the league. Now,
Joe Burrow is probably maybe a tear up in terms
of a prospects compared to Drake. But Drake is still
like a high level prospect and higher than I think
the quarterback that is maybe causing a lot of mac
(13:00):
jones and that I think he'll be able to handle
pressure better than.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Mac and that, Yeah he's better than that.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yeah, what what broke.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Mac Jones down in terms of like his confidence and
things like that, Like I don't expect Drake to have
the same uh trajectory.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Yeah, I mean, look look at where they both played
college ball. Mac Jones was at Alabama. He was Alabama,
he was surrounded by first round picks. Everything was perfect,
Everything happened to be in place. He's a serviceable quarterback.
Mac Jones is a serviceable quarterback. If you have great
players around him, they can do very good things. But
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he's not going to carry a team. I mean, Mac
just isn't going to do that. I think that the
coaching staff really threw him under the bus. This kid,
Drake May. I think it's a different situation. I think
there's much more upside with Drake May than when Mac
Jones And yeah, you know, I'm sorry, go ahead continue.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
And what you're saying too is true of what they
saw in Drake at North Carolina. And obviously the NFL
is a different caliber of competition than North Carolina college football.
But Drake wasn't playing necessarily behind a sound line or
with uber talented receivers, but he still made plays happen,
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and so I think you have to trust in your
evaluation of him. Of course, you don't want to rush
his development and their plans. So far, the patient seems
to be paying off because he has been making strides
throughout training camp and now into the preseason. But I
think you do also have to believe in the player
that you did draft.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Do you think he's exceeded expectations in the preseason, because
I think he.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Has, I don't know about maybe exceeded expectations. He was
a third overall pick and they did view him very highly.
I think he's flat. He definitely has come on really strong.
I think maybe he benefited from the fact that he
only played six snaps in the preseason in the first
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preseason game, and that through maybe the first two weeks
of training camp it was very obvious that Jacoby was
the better quarterback, so the expectations sort of were low
and then he really jumped up. So but I think
he's he's on par with what they were expecting out
of him. They've always been high on him.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So what do you think of the AFC East? You know,
I don't know, did you make a prediction on the
Patriots having did you have to pick in the globe?
How many wins do you think they're going to have?
Speaker 7 (15:40):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (15:41):
I picked four, that's about right.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I get that. Do you remember who who the victories are?
Speaker 4 (15:48):
We didn't help to specify, But I think Tennessee is
a winnable game. I think there's always some sort of
like foot like last year when they beat Buffalo. I
think that's the possibility. Indianapolis so and then who knows,
maybe the defense wins them a game. So I think
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there are four wins, though at most on paper as
things stand right now.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
So what do you think of the AFC East? I mean,
this is still Buffalo's thing. Any thoughts on the Jets Miami?
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Uh, it wouldn't surprise me if Buffalo takes a step back.
I think the Jets, if Aaron Rodgers stays healthy, definitely
have a chance. A lot of people have them going
to the conference championship game, maybe even the super Bowl.
So it wouldn't surprise me at the Jets. They're just
loaded with talent, cake the division title.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I feel bad for Jet fans. They need a little love.
They do they need a little love? Come on, they
need something here. They need they and I mean Rogers,
he's out of his mind. He's a nut job. But
if he does stay healthy, you know, they can certainly
get something done. I'm surprised that Buffalo Buffalo's were rest
a little bit, haven't they.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, I mean they lost Stefon Diggs. Of course they
have Keon Coleman as a young wide receiver, but it
takes time for rookie wide receivers to come on, even
like I'm on, we're all Saint Brown, like the players
that now are sort of household names like their rookie years,
they don't really come on till, like I don't know,
week ten and start putting up like big numbers. So
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it just wouldn't surprise me if it takes them a
while to sort of find their groove in their rebuild
is too strong. But like retool, is.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
It still Kansas City's deal here? I mean, I haven't
even checked the score on what's going on. I know
Baltimore scored, but is it still Kansas City's league or
championship to lose?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
I picked the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl. I
think there are a lot of fun hot up and
coming teams. The Lions, the Texans. But Kansas City knows
what it takes as cliches that sounds to win a
Super Bowl. They know the pacing of a season, they
know how to sign magnitude to wins and losses, and
they know just like mentally, how long of a season
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it is to get to February. So I think right
now there's no reason to doubt them. And I think
there are teams on the rise for sure, but none
is strong enough to knock off the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, Kansas City twenty seven to seventeen, with five minutes
to go leaving Baltimore right now. They get the quarterback.
That's it. They get the quarterback and mister Taylor Swift.
So that's that's all. Lady. Is that going to last?
What do you think is that going to last? The Swifties,
the swift Mania, Yeah, well, the swift mania, but the relationship.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Oh with I see. I mean, who's to say. I
think they seem happy she's at the game tonight. They
seem to be making it work. But they're also two
very high profile individuals, so who knows. Ben Affleck and
Jalo broke up for the second time, so anything can happen.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, but I mean, come on, Nicle, we all saw
that one coming. I mean, that was that was a
no brainer as long. Here's here's always the issue because
we saw it with Brady and Gizelle. Everything's great until
you stopped playing. When guys stop playing, they've got nothing
to do. And the Kelsey Brothers have a great podcast.
(19:26):
They're you know, they're very uh you know, I can
see Travis. He could go into movies, he could go
into the booth. But when guys stopped playing, things change.
And she obviously she's a megastar, she's an international mania,
you know. I mean, if she's a ten, now he's
(19:46):
a three. You know, if he stops playing, she's still
a ten and he's like he's a negative one. That's
where it always gets interesting. Mark my words on that.
The problem is when they stop playing. But right now
it looks good. I just wish sometimes I just you know,
sometimes when he gets in front of a microphone, he
(20:08):
acts like I'm moron. You know, he growls, he's yes,
says something, he wraps something, he yells something. I'm like,
just can't you just be normal? Just be normal? You
know what I mean. That's that's that's all I want, no, no know,
maybe she'll maybe she'll get him to grow up. Well, listen,
we we really appreciate you coming on, Nicole. Great job,
(20:28):
best of luck on the road this year with the
team covering the patch and believe me, you are going
to earn every dime the Boston Globe pays you.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Thanks so much for having me, Gary, Okay.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Nicole Yang joining us from the Boston Globe here on
WBC's night Side with you until twelve midnight. Right here
on BZ, Gary Tangling in for Dan Ray. We'll be
right back.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Night side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Hi, Dan, I can thank you very much. Gary Tangling
for Dan Ray tonight six Month, seven two five, four
to ten thirty. If you want to jump on board
here until twelve midnight. We'd like to thank all of
our guests for coming on this evening discussing discussing the
M cast with Devin MacCarthy earlier on why do we
even need it? Should it be a grad requirement? I
say no, I don't think so. And then so the
(21:22):
dealer is, if you flunk the M cast in the
tenth grade, you don't graduate, so you don't have a
chance to make it up your junior or senior year.
If you flunk as a sophomore, you do not graduate.
What that's crazy. Kids will probably just drop out of school.
(21:43):
And according to the numbers, one percent of the students
who take the m cast fail the m Cast in Massachusetts.
I had a great conversation this evening. If you're just
joining as you can catch it the podcast online tomorrow
with Ben Selkoe and he nominated filmmaker and friend of
Gary Tangoy was just dropped in in there. It's on
(22:07):
Hulu and it is a true true crime docu series
Killing Lives Chasing a true crime con man about French
serial killer expert stephar And Bargoyne, who turned out to
be a fraud said he interviewed seventy seven serial killers. Nope,
pretty much made all of it up. Let everybody and
(22:30):
then it was actually consulting with the police and saying
he solved crimes. This guy was making it said that
his girlfriend was murdered by a serial killer. He made
it all up. Nobody even questioned it. Well, people started
to question them, and that's what happens. That's part of
the series. So it's really good. Check out a terrific novel,
(22:52):
The Truth about Horses from author Christy Christy Cashman. Christy
was kind enough to join us. Could be made into
a TV series. We'll see good young adult novel. So
that was check check that out. It's a good read.
And that's what's been happening tonight on Night Side. Coming
(23:12):
up tomorrow night at ten o'clock, we will be joined
by a couple of attorneys, Attorney Bill kick Him and
also Bob George. And what we're going to do at
ten o'clock is following the Karen Reid broadcast the first
hour of that on ABC. We will break that down,
(23:34):
see if there's any new information. Will it have an
impact on the upcoming trial? Here's what I wonder. So
Karen Reid has an interview with ABC. She's still facing
a charge of second degree murder. They couldn't make that
go away. Now I'm not a legal expert, but I
(23:56):
was surprised at that. I thought the second degree murder charge,
from what I've read and what I've seen, that was
a stretch. I really thought that was a stretch. Manslaughter
from what I understand, it can be an accident. She
didn't mean to hit him. There's still a lot of
(24:17):
question marks with this whole thing. There really are. It's
not I just it's not open and shut. There'll be
some discussion about bruises that could those bruises have happened
by getting hit by a car, and so forth. Was
the victim wearing a coat, not wearing a coat if
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he's outside, wouldn't even been wearing a coat. I mean,
those are all things that will be discussed, and we'll
talk about it with a couple of the fraternities. As
I just mentioned, you can a television show sway an outcome.
Of course it can. Of course it can mean they're
going to pick a jury coming up for the next
trial after an everybody is going to see this. Everybody
(25:02):
is going to see this Karen Reid thing here in Boston.
There's no way anybody can get on the jury and say, yeah, no,
I didn't see it. Not a chance, not a chance.
And even if they're not supposed to look at it.
If you're going to be on the jury, aren't you
going to be curious if somebody says, oh, you've been
selected to the jury. Didn't you see her interview back?
(25:24):
And blah blah, blah black in September. Come on, but
the second degree murderer, I don't see that sticking. And
I'm really surprised that they kept that, really surprised. The
trial just will not go away in the Karen Reid case.
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So that's coming up tomorrow night at ten o'clock right
here on WBZ six one seven, two thirty. The telephone
number here Gary Tangling in for Danna Way Uh. And
this is night Side that we talked about tonight, which,
when I mean school shooting is just brutal right, I
(26:06):
mean it even pains me to even talk about it.
But the father of Colt Gray, who's going away forever
for murdering four people to teach us two students in
Georgia in the school shooting. This week, the father, Colin Gray,
has been charged. He's been charged with four counts of
(26:29):
involuntary manslaughter in two counts of second degree murder for
allowing his son to possess a weapon. He faces ten
to thirty years in prison. We've seen this before in
Michigan with the parents of that school shooter went away
for ten years, and they were idiots. They were morons,
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absolute morons. They had been brought into school. They had
seen the warning signs with their kid and they just
ignored it. But this is, you know, when it comes
to trying to do something about these school shootings, this
is where we're at, throwing the parents in jail two.
It's desperate times six, one, seven, two, five, fourteen thirty
(27:16):
the telephone them. Let's grab some calls here before we
say goodbye, Mary, Lou and Lowell. You're up on WBC's
Night Side.
Speaker 5 (27:23):
Hi Gary, Yes, how are you? I'm good? How are
you good? Thanks for doing the show.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
Thanks, I like you, Thank you.
Speaker 5 (27:31):
I like what you do it. Okay, Kevin me tomorrow night.
You're going to beyond? Are you having two lawyers? Is
that what I understood?
Speaker 3 (27:38):
What we're going to do is yes. ABC is putting
on an interview with Karen Reid beginning at nine o'clock.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
So I was told it was at ten, and you
said you were doing it at ten. That's why I'm
calling you.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
No, no, no, I was It's my understanding on ABC.
It's it's actually two hours. It's from nine to eleven. Okay,
eleven o'clock it's too late for us. After the first hour,
we're going to have our ourt Turning Friends are going
to be on and we're going to from what we've
seen in the first hour, we are going to break
(28:11):
it down. Okay, so Bob, George and Bill kick Him
will join us, and lack of a better term, it's
sort of a postgame show of what we've seen with her. Now,
if we wait till eleven o'clock, that's a little too late,
but it's going to be two hours. So we're going
to take a look at the first hour. Then we're
going to talk about it, and of course you can
listen to it on the podcast on the iHeart Radio
(28:33):
app as well.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
You know, so I can't do that. I don't have
that stuff. I'm from the old school.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
But you can figure it out, don't you.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
No, I can't.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
It's not hard.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Oh don't even you don't know me. I can't. I don't.
I know I can't do it. I know I can't.
I can't even work my phone.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Do you think I want?
Speaker 5 (28:53):
I'm on a landline right now.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
God bless you. At least you're not going to be
dropping out. You're not going to be drunk.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
And I don't have TV either, So I am going
to a friend's house to watch it tomorrow night, but
I didn't want to miss what you're doing with the
lawyers or the attorneys.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
You know.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
What I would recommend is that you know because there
is a second hour involved, and again we didn't want
to wait till eleven o'clock. Is if you watch it
at nine, just turn us on at ten, and kind
of I will do that.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
I didn't. I was told the show was on at
ten to eleven, not your show, the twenty twenty show, right,
And I was told it was on at ten, and
you said you're going to do yours at ten, So
I said, I can't watch and listen to both of them.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
At the same Well, it's nine to eleven, I think
on twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
I hope you're right. I hope you right.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Well, I am right. I mean, that's that's what that's
what I've read.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I mean, that's okay. Well, I heard on the radio.
I'm from Lowell, and I listened to a little station
in the morning before I go to work, and they
said the show was on at ten o'clock tomorrow night.
That's what I'm telling you. I heard. So they might
have screwed up the time. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
Well, I appreciate the phone call there.
Speaker 5 (30:00):
Well, I appreciate you being there in place of Dan.
Dan Dan the man. Okay, my friend.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Dan is the man.
Speaker 8 (30:08):
Let me tell you right now, I don't know you.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Can hold a candle and the two of you, I
like both of you.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Well, we tried, but boy, when it comes to the
legal stuff in the in the polityes.
Speaker 8 (30:19):
Yeah, absolutely, dance the man.
Speaker 5 (30:22):
Well, you're doing a hell of a job. Keep it up. Okay,
thank you, Gary, We'll see you.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I appreciate the phone call right here on WBC's night
side six seven thirty. The telephone number if you want
to get on board. We have another ten to fifteen
minutes to go here. So anyways, as I was saying,
the father of Colt Grey, Colin Gray, is now, I mean,
this guy's going to go to jail probably for ten
to thirty years because his kid had a gun. And
he is quoted as saying in the past that his
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son was a responsible gun owner. It seems to me
right now that if you are a household with firearms,
and I'm so I know how you feel. You're saying, tangle,
you get off your high horse. I have family members
that are hunters from Maine. Almost everybody I grew up
with hunted gun cabinets. Put the bullets in one part
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of the house, put the guns in the other part
of the house, the whole bit. So I've been around it,
and I understand that there are a majority of responsible
gun owners. But the way it's going right now, you
cannot leave a firearm or a weapon with anybody under
the age of eighteen in the house. You just can't.
You got to lock it up. You've got to lock
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it up, especially if the kid is having trouble, and
there were some signs that he was having trouble. The
parents were getting divorced, he was struggling with that probably,
and we have seen this in the past. This certainly
happened with the shooting in Connecticut, where the parent and
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the child bond over the weapon. They buy him the weapon,
they take him to the shooting range, they go hunting
with them. It's something they do together, so they don't
feel they need to take the weapon away. But that's
what happened in Newtown, Connecticut, when the mother bought the
weapon for the for her son and he ended up
taking her life with it. That's where we're at folks,
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you get kids and you get guns, you gotta lock
them up. You gotta lock them up. Final segment here
on Nightside, coming up on WBZ right after this.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Describe some couple of calls here as we finished strong
on WBC's Nightside six one, seven, two thirty. Let's go
to Jack in bed for Jack. You're up on WDBZ.
What's going on? How you doing? Jack?
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Right?
Speaker 6 (32:48):
So?
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I agree with you, and you know in this day
and age that we're in right now, with with with
all this chaos and the whatever whateveryone's mind is in
right now. Yeah, you're right under I'll say, even under seventeen,
you got you gotta keep the pieces locked up. Even
if we're talking the you know, rifles, baby guns, whatever, Okay,
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they're gotta be under lock and key, okay, and total
supervision if they if they come out or whatever. Now,
I'm gonna give everyone one a little reality check here, okay.
And I'm gonna get just maybe a little off topic.
If you got the money and you know the right people,
meaning and well underworld, I'm assuming in this case Okay,
(33:35):
you can get whatever you want.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
Oh you mean talking about buying weapons, of course? Yeah, yeah,
I understand that. Yeah, of course you can. Yeah, I
got it. You know when you talk.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
About you had a million dollars, like, sorry, go ahead,
you know.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
I mean, if you're talking about gun control, people can
make the argument that if somebody wants to get a weapon,
they're going to get a weapon. You know, then then
the argument would that is, well, you have to make
it more difficult to buy an AR fifteen, and you
go back and forth on it. I think if that's
the point you're making, I am yeah, I understand exactly.
Speaker 9 (34:09):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
It's a no, there's no uh. What's the expression I'm
looking for. There's no uh, you know it's a it's a.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Well, I think there is. And thank you for the
phone call. I appreciate it. Check coming from the state
of Maine. There is a right of passage where a
parent and a young person. It can be a father
and a daughter, a mother and a sonomy whatever. Where
you go hunting and you know, you get your first rifle,
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you get your first twenty two, and you go hunting
with your dad. You are hunting with your uncles, you
go on hunting trips sixteen or seventeen. I get it.
I've seen it. It wasn't for me. My dad didn't hunt.
I did not, un A lot of my friends did.
And I witness it. And it's a tradition and it's
a right of passions. And a kid gets his first deer,
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it's a big deal. They take the deer, they cut
up the meat, they freeze it, they eat it, they
make vedicine. It's all good, it's all good. But now
we're at a point in time in this country where
we're in a mental health crisis and you cannot leave
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weapons exposed with young people. You just can't. Now when
I talk about families and who are gun owners, and
the kids are fine, they're probably obviously the majority are.
But if you're the adult in the room, the cabinet
has to be locked so people like cold Gray can't
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get them if they are mentally ill. That's the way
it has to be. All right, Let's go to Tina
and Marlborough. Tina, you're up on WBZ.
Speaker 9 (35:55):
Hey, Gary, I am calling to say I totally agree
with you. So I'm calling as a person who has
been a teacher of young kids. I love young kids.
I am also calling as a woman who does not
have children because I made a choice not to have children,
because being a parent is a huge responsibility. Yes, and
I'm tired of parents not taking responsibility for their kids
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because you're a parent from the day you conceive until
the day you die, right, and parents are responsible for
their kids. And I'm going to say up until twenty one,
parents should be responsible for their kids in this in
a gun situation, I mean, kids can't drink until they're
twenty one. They're not responsible enough to drink. They sure
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as hell shouldn't be responsible enough to have access to
a gun.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
Well, I mean, if the kid is living at home,
if they're young. You know, obviously I hear you. I
understand what you're saying. I think it might be tough
to do because you have the right to vote at eighteen.
But we're on the same page, totally on the same
We're totally on the same page. And the public shootings
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are so out of control in this country. Is we
have to go to extreme measures to stop them because
the government's certainly not going to help us out with
any sort of gun control.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
Yeah, which there should be, and at the end of
the day, I'm sorry. Like you know, having been in
the school systems as well, everybody parents want to point
their fingers that everybody else though what their kids are doing.
And I'm sorry, but you had the kids because you
wanted to have kids. You take responsibility for them.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
Well, I agree, Tina, You're right on that because I've
seen that where you know, when I came home from
school and if there was a note from the teacher
as I go, old bastard on you, or if there
was a you know it, it wasn't the teacher's fault.
It wasn't even disputable. It was on me, and you
had to deal with it. And now, and this is
my feeling teen is because parents are so insecure. We
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feel that if our child is struggling academically or socially
in school and mist behaving, it's a reflection on us.
So if my kid is messing up, that makes me
look like a bad parent, So it can't be me,
It must be.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
The teacher, right, yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
And that's what I think parents think. And it's it's no,
that's not it your parents. Your kid is not you.
You know, if my kid screws up you got to
support the teacher. I'm with you one hundred percent absolutely,
and it's not and it's not happening.
Speaker 9 (38:19):
Yeah. So two things I have to say. All my
friends have kids, I'm like, especially when they're teenagers, if
your kids hate you, you just look at them and say,
thank you, I'm doing my job.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
Well, that's true too, and I'm terrible than that's what.
Speaker 9 (38:33):
Your kids are supposed to do in their teenagers.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Yeah, the line, I am too. I've been as I
can tell you as a parent, I've always been too
worried about being liked by my kids. You're absolutely right,
but I would not allow them to have a gun.
That's where I draw the line. Tina.
Speaker 9 (38:52):
One other thing said you can go onto somebody else.
But so I asked this question many years ago when
people have said there haven't been studies in this. But
I don't think a lot of our gun violence is
going to all of our video games like Call of Duty,
where you sit back, you relax, you turn on your
call of duty and the answer to everything is to
go shoot up everybody around you. And I can't believe
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that there is no correlation between that and the gun
violence we're seeing. I can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
Why I agree with you, and if and if and
if any and if anybody says differently, you're a fool.
Speaker 9 (39:25):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (39:26):
Of course there is. Of course there is a correlation.
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 9 (39:33):
Of course there is the parents letting them just play
that game.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Oh yeah, I mean I've done it. My kid plays it,
my son played it, you know. Yeah, you're right, of course, yeah,
of course there is.
Speaker 9 (39:47):
And yeah, and I just think that again, that's parenting,
and it's just it's a shame. It is a shame,
and it's a shame that that's how it's brought up,
that's that it's in our culture. I agree that that's
in a way to relax. So those are my two cents.
And I do have to say when you're filling in,
I have listened to a couple of times, and I
enjoy listening to you. You had a teacher on a
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couple of weeks ago. I listened to. It was just
a great conversation. I learned a lot. It's just nice
having you on board, Tina.
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Thank you very much. I appreciate the call.
Speaker 9 (40:17):
Thanks appreciate you too.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
Okay, we'll see you later. Eric and Adelbor you get
thirty seconds.
Speaker 10 (40:23):
Sorry, I'm okay, thirty seconds is all I need. Basically,
I'd like to point out that I would say, at
least in the fifties and sixties, perhaps not so much
in the coastal liberal.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
States like Massachusetts or California, but in Flyover country in
terms of athletic activity, rifling and rifles classes was part
of a daily public education which actually took the stigma.
Speaker 8 (40:53):
Out of the you know, the whatever kind.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
Of evil pizasmic goes a long with a gun. And
there was very very few, if any at all, regular
school shootings with teenagers back then.
Speaker 10 (41:08):
So basically the.
Speaker 8 (41:10):
Problem we have now is that we've taken things like
that away from the children and give them much, in
my opinion, much more degenerate, radical, disgusting things to take
the place of self defense.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
And yeah, I mean, I just have to cut you off,
but I appreciate the call. Please call earlier next time.
I thank you for your input on this, Rob Brooks,
thank you, great job, Marita LaRosa, thank you very much.
We'll be back tomorrow night eight o'clock right here in
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