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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's with Dan ray On Dell Boston.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right. Our second topic tonight is from California. But
what happens in California eventually happens in Massachusetts. And sometimes
what happens in California happens very quickly in Massachusetts. So
for those of you who are interested Amsterdam, Amsterdam, you
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know that's in the Netherlands. Amsterdam style cannabis cafes have
just become legal in California. This is a press release
today September thirtieth, twenty twenty four, the governor, Governor Newsom.
Governor Gavin Newsom has signed a bill in California that
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allows local California governments to license Amsterdam style cannabis cafes. Now,
I've been to Amsterdam, but I've never been in a
cannabis cafe. I'm sure some of you may have been.
And I don't know what is meant by a cannabis cafe,
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but I think what they mean is a place we
can go and you can smoke smoke pot. Okay, Now,
we have bars at Massachusetts. Okay, we got plenty of
bars at Massachusetts. I'm sure some of you yesterday might
have been watching the Patriots lose to the forty nine
ers at one of your local watering holes, and you
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go there to this year commiserate. Other years celebrate, but
you got commiserate about what's going on with the Patriots.
All right. Do you remember in Massachusetts several years ago
when we legalized or decriminalized medical marijuana. We said, well,
you know, there's a lot of people who suffer from
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various and sundry causes medical problems, and many people suffer
from anxiety, PTSD, whatever, and they find relief with marijuana.
And so the legislature in Massachusetts said, well, that's a
reasonable idea. Will give them the right to get medical marijuana.
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Have to have a prescription, okay from a doctor, and
you can't smoke it on the streets. You got to
be able to go home and smoke it at home.
And that's all they wanted. That's all what the medical
marijuana people wanted. No problem. Then a couple of years
passed and they said, well, you know, why is it
that only people who are suffering from anxiety. We all
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have anxiety or suffering from some form of PTSD. We
all have been through things in our lives, and if
it's good for some people. It's good for everyone. So
then we decriminalized and in effect legalized marijuana. Now in Massachusetts,
you got to you should buy your marijuana through a
marijua on a store, okay, because that way the state
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gets a piece of the action. In addition, what the
state says to you is, well, we make sure that
the marijuana isn't bad stuff, meaning it's somewhat controlled. Of course,
there's also we found out last week from our friends
up at Maine Wire in the state of Maine, there's
about two hundred and seventy illegal plotforms being run up
there by people who are associated or affiliated or have
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funding from the Chinese Communist Party the government of China.
That's the Chinese Communist Party. We have the Democratic Party
and the Republican Party. The Chinese only has one party,
it's called the Communist Party. So now in Massachusetts, hey, hey,
you could buy marijuana. As long as you're not walking
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down the street with it, you're okay. You just bring
it home and you smoke it whatever you need. Your
friends come over, you have a great time. No anxieties whatsoever,
no PTSD. Well, what's next? What's next is what I'm
holding in my hand and that's the press release from California.
They're going to have Amsterdam Amsterdam style cannabis cafes now,
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According to this press release, in the Netherlands, Amsterdam's cannabis
cafes thrive as part of the city's unique social structure
and capitalizes on the social nature of cannabis through coffee, food,
and live music, all opportunities that are currently illegal. Under
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California law AB seventeen seventy five will allow cannabis retailers
to diversify their businesses and move away from the struggling
and limited dispensary model by selling non cabinist, non cannabis
infused foods, whatever the hell that means. So the state assemblymen,
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who now is the hero to the marijuana community in California, said,
lots of people want to enjoy legal care cannabis in
the company of others. I remember you could have your
friends over and took up at home, but nope, and
many people want to do that while sipping coffee, eating
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a sandwiche, or listening to music, all of which you
could do at your home. You can make coffee at home,
you can eat a sandwich at home, you can listen
to music at home with your friends that is now
finally legal in California, and there's no doubt that cannabis
cafes will bring massive economic, cultural, and creative opportunities and
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benefits to our state. California is once again leading the
way and supporting legal, safe cannabis businesses and culture. Good
for them. A previous version of the bill AB three
seventy four was veto last year by Governor Newsom, who
urged in his veto message to reintroduce the bill to
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include more protections for cannabis workers. I have no idea
what that means. Let's see this year. I guess he's
considered that people who work in cannabis cafes might get
you know, contact high or something. This this Assembly member
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introduced the bill with the support of the United Commercial
and Food Workers to ensure cannabis lounge workers are protected
from secondhand smoke impacts at work. Exactly what I thought.
The bill levels the plague field for the highly taxed
and regulated legal cannabis industry that's being forced to compete
in California with a thriving cannabis black market. So even
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though they legalized it in California, thank god, there's a
thriving cannabis black market going on. Remember they told us, well,
there'll be no more black market on't you make itllegal? Right? Oh?
I guess not. The illegal sale of cannabis is extremely
profitable in California, with illegal sellers choosing to simply ignore
costly red regulations, product testing, permitting, in taxation. California's legal
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cannabis sales reached four billion in twenty twenty, while oh,
the illegal sales reached four billion in twenty twenty. Well,
illegal sales are believed to have sevested eight billion that
same year. So even though they made it legal twice
more is illegal. Oh my goodness, Oh my goodness. Right now,
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our small cannabis businesses are struggling to compete against illegal
drug sellers that don't follow the law of paid taxes.
In order to ensure the legal cannabis market can survive
and thrive in California, that's the top priority. We have
to allow them to adapt, innovate, and offer products and
experiences that customers want. And who knows, maybe a little
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LSD will throw in there. I don't know. That's my comment.
Cannabis cafes are going to be a huge part of
the future of cannabis in our state and help to
beat back the illegal drug market. Thank god, assemble Manhany.
You were beating back the illegal drug market by making
it legal, but you're losing the battle. Unbelievable. The bill
goes into effect on January first, and with the approval
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from local governments, Californian should be able to enjoy cannabis
cafes as early as the new year. Wow. Wow, California
should be excited for the jobs, culture, and tourism that
cannabis cafes are going to bring to our state. Oh yeah,
oh yeah. All right, So here's my question. How soon
is it since since California on January first, twenty twenty five,
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we'll have cannabis cafes legal. Everything's fine, okay, how long
before it's in Massachusetts? Six months, a year, sixteen months,
two years? I bet it's going to be a lot
quicker than we realize. The thing that's great about cannabis cafes,
and I say this with my tongue planted squarely in cheek,
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is one of the things. Of Course, everyone's going to
have a can cafe on their corner, so there'd be
no one who'll be driving anywhere to a cannabis cafe. Right. Wrong.
There'll be a lot of people driving who will have
smoked before they go and come when they come back,
and there's no way to detect for marijuana. They haven't.
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They know how to protect, how to detect for alcohol,
but nothing for marijuana. Nothing for marijuana. Man, Is is
this a good thing for the country. I don't think
it is. But I guess I'm old fashioned. I'd love
to know what you think. I mean, give me a break.
You said you want it for medical purposes, great, you
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got it. You want it for use to use it
in your home, in the privacy of your home, you
got it. You want it to be sold legally and
be used in the privacy, you got it. But No,
in California, they kept pushing. They kept pushing, and they're
gonna keep pushing, and they're gonna start pushing in Massachusetts.
Want to open up the phone line six one seven
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for ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
If you think that cannabis cafes are going to be
good for Massachusetts, give me a call. Give me a call,
because if you do, I have a bridge in Brooklyn.
I'd like to be able to sell you a share
in what is going on. I mean, it's coming here.
Trust me on that. At this point it's too late
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to stop it. And if you're a big proponent of it, fine,
explain to me why I'm wrong. Okay. All it is
doing is introducing another legal intoxicant out there for people
to imbibe in it. We don't have enough drunks in
the road. We don't have enough people who are high
on the road. We need more people on the road
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who are high, who are drunk, or who are illegal.
That's what it is in Massachusetts. But if you allow
your automobile registration to go more than like a week,
they'll pull you over and write a ticket for you
because they want you what is wrong with this state
right now? Uh? And I'm telling you it's coming here.
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And if you don't believe me, and you want to
tell me it's not, I'd love to hear from you.
We're going to take a break. Ladies want you to
join in as well. So far, all the calls tonight
have been men feel free six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten
thirty got some more wide open lines. Are you looking
forward to token up at your local or maybe a
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cannabis cafe in downtown Boston or whatever. You know, you're
going to be driving stoned to the cafe and probably
driving homestone to the cafe, and you'll be able to
be out there with the drunk drivers as well. What
a what a concept. Oh, here we go, bring it,
bring it on, coming back after this.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, I'll be interesting to see what people think about
this possibility. I'm going to Mic and really Mike your
first this hour on night side cannabis cafes. They're probably
coming to Massachuonia. Good Mike, what do you think.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
They're out to lunch?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Dan?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Listen, Dan, I just saw them at seventeen years clean
two weeks ago. Okay, it is the worst thing to happen.
But unfortunately the Democratic state like California, all they want
is tax dollars, that's all.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
But let me ask you, if you don't think we're
going to have them here, Oh you.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Have them here? Yeah, but it's not to lunch. It's crazy,
it's nuts. Yeah, they don't think that way. They just
want the tax money, Dan, that's all they want.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Well, I'm just saying that is that what happens in
California eventually happens here. And I just think that that
everything in this country with in my opinion, is the best,
the most influential, the most powerful country in the world,
and we're giving it away. People in this country want
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us to be like the Netherlands. Okay, be like the Netherlands.
See what happens, you know, it's it's absolutely crazy, I
guarantee you.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
And we're happening. There's something some Paul by some doctors
or like some other knuckleheads, but they won't act act
people in recovery or is this community. That's so the
situation and that's what happened, and they'll just be do
I just don't. And then and we're having is that
the police guys, if you get stopped, they can't test
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for it, and so you get accident or something happens.
You know, it's just I scratched my head at it.
It's just not well.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Again, I'm just trying to do a little Paul Revere
thing and and blow and and you know basically basically, uh,
soundly alarmed it's not the British are coming anymore. It's
if the cannabis cafes are coming. Because if they've got
to California, I guarantee you they'll be they'll be bills
filed in the legislature for the upcoming session, and in
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Massachusetts they could easily pass. And I don't know. I
don't know that the governor would veto a piece of
legislation that got to her desk like that by a
quick thing.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
If we are coming out there, I think. And the
cannabis saying mass is why they says they have a
shertam punt of money going to recovery community or something
like that, and that's has been used, yeah, something like that.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Well, I know that they said they said that they
had money coming for that, but I don't know if
it's been used yet. Mike. Maybe someone out there can
set us straight on that. Thanks man, I appreciate you
called hang on here, thank you much. I'm we go
to Andrew, who is calling from Connecticut. Hey, Andrew, welcome
to Nightside.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
How are you, hey, dan Oria good If I had.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
You before, Andrew, I don't get a lot of calls
from Connecticut.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Uh have former mass reverent.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Oh okay, okay, that's that's what. So what do you
think are you considered what happens in California spreads across
the country. I think we found out, we've found that
out in many respects.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
Yeah, bad ideas. It's uh, it's it's just another as
the former caller, so that it is a revenue stream.
And I heard your point earlier. You know people can
gather in their homes and do it privately.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Those people that gather in their homes there, they're going
to have to drive to their homes, so they're going
to be out on the roads.
Speaker 6 (15:43):
Anyways.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
You know, if you're if you're looking for a revenue
stream and it does, it is going to help in
some way, uh, generate funds that will you know, help
screwce up the economy. You know, I think, uh, I
think it's going to happen. And you know, prostitution is
legal in Nevada. It's not legal in Massachusetts yet, it's
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been legal for a long time in Nevada. If people
don't want these establishments in their neighborhoods, you know, Nimby,
not in my backyard, it will be a well should
be active and say, hey, you know, this is a
great idea, but I don't want in my neighborhood. And
I think people will have to fight locally to say
that's not something I want in my neighborhood. But you know,
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maybe maybe the next town over it can have it.
I know, with the dispensaries in the past couple of
the past couple of years, it was a big boom.
You know, they wanted to get into these towns and
they paid, they paid handsomely the towns to build these establishments,
and there was a huge rage and huge lines and
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it was a big to do. And now you don't
hear anything about it. People are just going about their
daily business doing doing what they need to do. And
if it's still it's still a revenue stream for those communities.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Okay, So what it comes down to, as long as
why don't we make we should make prostitution legal, then
as well, what about heroin cafes?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
It's legal in Nevada.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
No, I know that. No, you said that. That's why
I asked you. That's gonna that would be a revenue stream.
What about you know, cocaine cafes? That okay? I mean,
where do you draw the line or do you draw
no lines?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Well, well, I mean, you know, I said, you know,
you said you're old fashioned. I mean, I guess if
you don't want to partake in that, I guess you
don't have to go right, No.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And if you don't want to partake in prostitution, you
don't have to do it either.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Right, that's correct, right, absolutely, I agree with that. If
we want to hold a moral character, I guess it's
hire opportunity to hold that moral character.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
What I'm saying, it sounds to me like and you're saying,
all bets are off, lets whatever, whatever will. Sounds to
me like the standard by which you're doing this, which
is right. By the way, I'm not opposed to it.
I'm not opposed to what you're saying. I like to
hear what you say. You're saying. If it's going to
generate some money for the commonwealth of the cities and towns,
let's do it.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
That's good, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Okay, that's great, And you'll fundamentally change the character not
only of the state of California, the state of Massachusetts,
but eventually the whole country.
Speaker 5 (18:25):
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
And the as the state of.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
The Netherlands changed or I do see positive positive information
coming out from there as far as being a number
one place to live. People are happier, the economies. The
economy is flourishing there. So I mean, let's do some
research on these Netherlands communities that you know that this
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is active in and see.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And I'm sure and I'm sure if there were evers,
if there ever was a war with Russia, the Netherlands
army would be We'll be right in the front lines. Right.
They don't even they don't even pay their money to
thanks thing exactly. Yeah, the military will be in the cafe.
And what are you talking about? Russian tanks? Is are
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all what you're talking about? Uh? You know anyway, look, Andrew,
I appreciate you calling. I really mean that you disagree
with me, but I love your call. Uh. And that's
what this show is all about, different points of view.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Thank you you too, have a good one.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
But take a break. Here's the news coming right back
on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
You're on night Side with Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Well let's keep rolling here. See what people have to
say about cannabis cafes here in New England. I think
that they're coming because once they say okay in California,
brace yourself, New England, maybe you think it's a good thing.
I think Andrew thinks was pretty much a good thing.
Mike disagreed. Let's go to Paul and Newton. Paul, you're
next on Nightside. Thanks for calling in you tonight.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
I good, even good, Thank you. I just wanted to say,
I think it's a very bad idea and that shows
where we're going as a country. We're going downhill that
any governor would go and allow these types of fays.
Did you see there's multiple stories that broke today that
the Vice President Kamala Harris, she is endorsing that we're
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proposing legalizing marijuana nationally. Did you see any of these stories?
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I didn't, but I can double check it. And did
you see them on a Did you see that story
on a w'd you see the legitimate news sources it?
You know? Oh?
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I think the Hill did a story and there's that
there's quite a few of them out there that broke
that broke today within the last twelve hours. I think
the Hill has a story. I saw it on there
and some other sites. But if you google Vice President
Harris legalized part. You'll see these stories.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah, I'm trying to just jump in on it. Now
Here it says she shifts on legalizing weedi. This is
out of the Sacramento b which is a legitimate, a
very legitimate sacramental newspapers like the Boston Globe on Unsacramento,
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which of course is the state capitol. Six hours ago,
Kamala Harris said she's long supported legalizing weed, long supported
legalizing weed. What her California record shows. In a recent
turn of events in the presidential race, forman president Donald
Trump faced criticism at a long Okay, so that's a
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different story. Harris set an interview for the All the
Smoke podcasts released on Monday. She's long supported marijuana legalization.
As a federal legislator, she's worked a decriminalize weed, but
as a District attorney of San Francisco in California attorney general,
the Democratic nominee stance was less clear. I just feel
strongly people should not be going to jail for smoking weed.
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And we know hysterically what this has meant and who's
gone to jail. She put a lot of those folks
in jail smoking weed. When she was a prosecutor. She
spent a forty seven minute episode. She won't do news
conferences and she won't talk to the national media, but
she an episode of All the Smoke, a podcast hosted
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by former NBA and Golden State Warrior players Matt Barnes
and Steven Jackson. Second, I just think we have to
come to a point where we understand that we need
to legalize it and stop criminalizing this behavior. Actually, this
is not a new position for me. I felt for
a long time we need to legalize it. So that's
where I am on that. So, yeah, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
It's a class de controlled substance that is mind altering.
It's no good.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
I'm not gonna argue the medical of it. I'm saying
the interview released on Monday. I'm just confirming here what
you're telling us is the first time Harris has publicly
affirmed for a position on weed since officially becoming the
Democratic presidential nominee. She hasn't talked to anybody else.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
We're going to the dogs.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I think I think we're going to envy the dogs
when this is eventually over. That's true, and Paul loved
the call. Thank you, and up to the gate information
from Paul to keep me on top of things. Will ya,
I hadn't seen that. Thanks, have a rege. Good night.
Let me go to Lola in in San Diego. Hi, Lola,
welcome back. You're going to be able to smoke cannabis
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in a cannabis cafe pretty soon in San Diego.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Then closed down all the bars. Sorry, but you know what,
It's equal to alcohol, and alcohol has been more deadly
longer than marijuana.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
How about how about some cocaine cafes.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
Well, now you're jabbling into a different type of drug.
You're gabbling into a different type of drug. But let's
keep going back to the good old alcohol. Now, the
latest NFL games, people that have all beaten each other up,
all drinking, and who promotes that the NFL because you
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Bess b is be is everywhere.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Well that's so what I'm trying to say is this.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Okay, I know most I understand.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
No, no, no, okay, I'm just saying something really simple. Okay,
alcohol has been legal in this country since the repeal
was reversed. Okay, I think it's the eighteenth Amendment of
what you know. I'll grab my copy of the Constitution
because those amendments get to be a little confusing every
once in a while. And I don't want to misquote
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misquote the amendment, but for a while, alcohol was was
illegal in this country.
Speaker 7 (24:55):
It was legal, and there was a there was a
big bootlegger named H. Kennedy in Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Well, I don't know whatever he was.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
He was making tons of money on bootlegg and booze.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
No, no, no, I understand that. I understand that that's,
you know whatever. So prohibition was from nineteen nineteen and
then the repeal was the twenty first Amendment in nineteen
thirty three. Okay, so they they tried to outlawer. It
didn't work. Now, marijuana, which in this country, I think
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at a federal level, is still a classified as a
as an illegal substance. I mean, many banks in this
country refused to lend money to pot shops because they're
concerned about federal rules and regulations exactly we're going to
go to cannabis cafes. When they first started, Lola, let
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me get your response to this. When they first started,
they said medical marijuana, people need it because they're suffering
from all sorts of problems. So everybody said, okay, that's
with a prescription. Then they said, wait a second, wait
a second, we need to decriminalize it. And then they said,
let's have let's allow people to smoke in their home,
so you can buy in Massachusetts. You take it home
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and you're smoking with your friends. You'll listen to music,
watch football, whatever you want to do. So now they
see that's not Well, what it comes down to is
where does this stop? Because if they were honest initially,
if they were honest initially and said, look, we want
to make it legal so that people can drive, I mean,
you know, I mean, maybe we should make it legal
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so that it's so good that that there should be
no prohibition on driving, you know, with with marijuana, what
do you think about that?
Speaker 7 (26:44):
I think it should be okay, it just as it
should be just as okay as drinking and driving. Oh
we're going to go out to dinner and we're just
going to have a glass of wine. Well you're still
drinking outside of your home with your friends. You're out
at a restaurant.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Just but what But what I'm saying is this, why
why did the people who got my question is this?
Why not have been honest with people in Massachusetts? Ten
years ago and saying, look, we want the whole, the
whole Inchilada. We not only want medical marijuana, we want
it available for recreational activity. And knowing that we want
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cannabis cafes.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Because you have to do one step at a time.
Oh okay, fine, and that's how it that's how it
started here first it was medicinal.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I know you're making my point.
Speaker 7 (27:37):
You're making my point, and I'm just saying. All I'm
saying is, at the end of the day, it's all
about revenue. Like your past Callas said, Okay, it's revenue, revenue, revenue,
and the government sees a way to make a profit.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
So let me ask you this. If if we can
make if we can make revenue for the government with
cocaine or heroin, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 7 (28:01):
Well, you know, right now we might not be alive
dam But that might be the case because if you
go back to Amster, I think it's Amsterdam, there's there's
more drugs available there than ah here.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Okay, and right, so we want to emulate, so therefore
we should emulate Amsterdam.
Speaker 7 (28:26):
I'm not saying that, I'm just well when I'm I'm
just that was the example that was given. So if
you really want to know.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
What I'm saying is in effect, they're saying this is
going to be wonderful, just be like Amsterdam. Well let's
let's just not take half a loaf of Amsterdam. Let's
take the whole thing. Let's let's legalize it all.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
By the time this happens, we won't be on this
side of the flowers. Okay, we'll be pushing up daisy.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Well, I'm concerned. I'm concerned as as as a parent.
I'm concerned as a grandfather that this is what our
kids are going to be dealing with. And you know, people,
there's a lot of people killed in drunk driving accidents.
You're absolutely I'm not.
Speaker 7 (29:15):
Look, I'm not for drinking and driving, no, no, no,
but but I haven't had alcohol for since two fifteen
when I started my yoga practice. Okay, okay, congratulations, congratulations,
thank you. But I didn't know what I'm saying is
quit it.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah okay, but it's always. Thank you very much. I
appreciate them. Up my break. You got the longest call
of the night so far because you were the best
one so far. Thank you as always.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
Okay, well, thank you and again, I'm not I'm not
endorsing yousing drugs or alcohol, but it's just looking at
it from a balance that if you're going to allow this,
then you have to allow that.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Yeah, that's that's like saying somebody who doesn't have enough
self control, they got to eat five ring things a day,
they also should eat like, you know, five chocolate cupcakes,
about twenty five Oreo cookies.
Speaker 7 (30:09):
I mean that, you know, Dan, at the end of
the day, I look at it like this, whether it's
legal or illegal, it's your choice. Now do you want
to take do you want to drink that or eat that? Whatever?
Because it's on the shelf. You know, people have to
take responsibility.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
So no, I don't believe in that. I don't believe
in people taking responsibility because when they when they kill
someone in their car, why should they have to go
to trial. I mean, they were just drinking.
Speaker 7 (30:37):
They were being allowed to do it to be going
right to jail. No trial.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
All right, Lola, gotta go, Thank you much. Thanks, Okay,
bye bye, We'll be right back on Night's side. This
has got the bowl lines going. Let's keep rolling. Coming
back only line open six, one, seven.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Now back to Dan Ray line from the window world
Side Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
That's keep Rolanhan. Going to go to Joe and Weymouth. Joe,
you were next on Nightside.
Speaker 8 (31:07):
Welcome right ahead, Yes, Dan, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Sir? What's your take on all of this shows?
Speaker 7 (31:14):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 3 (31:15):
All right?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I can hear you perfectly, Go right ahead, Okay.
Speaker 9 (31:21):
I was looking today through my mail and I got,
uh the five questions that are going to be on
the ballot, and one of those, I believe was something
about legalizing some kind of controlled substances. I didn't need it.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
So called so called magic mushrooms.
Speaker 9 (31:49):
Oh that's that's awesome. Yeah, to try those up in
the cast.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Very cool. It's very cool. Everybody in Massachusetts can get
stoned on magic mushrooms.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
That's just awesome. I think these cafes, like you said,
are probably inevitable. It's it's a horrible idea. And when
you also mentioned in California that they made so many
billions legally and the black market made substantially more.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Still twice and I guess we did the story last
week here up in Maine, little old state of Maine,
there's two hundred and seventy to or at least two
hundred and seventy illegal pot farms in Maine that are
funded by the Chinese government, the Communist Party of China.
(32:48):
Go check out main Daily Wire. It's a great website
out there. Finally, finally it's being taken. There's notice being
taken of it. We did it a year ago. The
Boston a little bit of front page story on it
last week. They're a little late, a little late to
the party. But yeah, is that great?
Speaker 9 (33:09):
Yeah, well you've been You've been talking about that for months.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yes, sir, since last January. And you've got to give
credit to Steve Robinson, who's the editor in chief of
the Main Wire. But if the national media doesn't want
to do it, it doesn't exist. You don't see that
story on NBCC Bears or ABC National News at night,
do you.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Oh no, no, no, no, you know no.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
That's why I have to get my news from nights out.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Well, we'll keep we'll keep working on a show. Thank
you very much. You're a very great caller, and continue
to support you keep calling the show. Thanks much, talk
soon than right, good night. Let me go next to
I Lean in Waltham. I lean want to get you
in here before the newscast at the top of the hour. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (33:59):
One, I don't know why our restudent politicians didn't realize
that if they legalize marijuana, the fentanyl trade is going
to increase direct result. Two, our illustrious senator warned, is
for the national legalization of marijuana.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Sure she is. Huh, I'm sure she is.
Speaker 10 (34:24):
That was a hot jump, right, And then the effects
of merrill And then I and the legal trade that
you highlighted a few days ago or a week within
the last week.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
On your program.
Speaker 10 (34:39):
And the other thing is many, many. I mean, if
you drive around Boston, you're going to see multiple part
marijuana where we're gonna call them facilities all over the place. Yeah,
I mean there's no control on.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
The number of them.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
They're everywhere, and I'm sure very expensive. I mean they're
not little sharp, these are huge.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I kind OF's making money.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
And yeah, someone mancy this big time.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Someone's making money. That's for sure. Capitalism is a great thing.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (35:15):
But I don't even see how all of these can
make enough money to exist. It's like they're almost across
the street from each other.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Well, I guarantee you that in time, pardon the pun.
Some will be weeded out. Yeah, okay, all right, thanks,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (35:33):
Welcome, great Carl, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Let me see what I can do here real quickly.
I got Jim in casey Jim. Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
Next time I'll be I'll be brief called earlier, but
i'll be okay, not this week.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
You haven't. You left me a voicemail over the weekend,
but I couldn't hear what you were trying to play
for me at the end.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Go ahead, all right, all right.
Speaker 8 (35:56):
Well, three things I've been saying for years that whenever
you get any kind of a prescription that precludes the
operation of machinery, your state should automatically assume that you
need that prescription in order to live, and since you're
going to be on it twenty four seven three sixty five,
they should automatically suspend your privilege to operate. And the
(36:16):
other thing is answer your question, where does it stop.
It's generational. The kids see the parents doing it and
they think it's okay. If the kids don't see the
parents doing it, they may still try it, but once
they realize how crazy it is, they'll stop. So that's
where It starts and stops with the family. If you
care about your kids, you care about your grandchildren, don't
do it because they're going to see it. They're going
(36:39):
to think it's good, and they're going to do it
whether it is good or not.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
All right, Jim, I got you in. Thank you very
much as always, appreciate your call. Talk to you soon. Okay, Okay,
I got about a minute. I want to get Daryl
in here and desertas to hang through the news. Daryl
got about a minute for you.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Go ahead, buddy, hey Man, great topic again. I'm a
medical client through a veteran program YEP, legalizing Canada. And
what happens is a group of veterans up at a
place called Canada House in or Mucdo, New Bunchwick. Yeah,
if you wish a lot of information to give them
(37:14):
a call talk to the guy that started it. And
but I would not go further than a marijuana product
reference legalization because with the opiates after major surgery, a
lot of veterans.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Go through No I understand, I understand. What I'm just
saying is that it's tough to draw the line because
you know, once you let the genie out of the bottle.
It's tough to get the genie back in the bottle. Yes,
I'm sure you know.
Speaker 6 (37:45):
It also goes back. It also goes back to the
responsibility of the vendors and the people.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Well, good luck relying on that unfortunately. Yeah all right, Daryl,
you got it.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
All goes back to the good.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
People, right, that's what it's about. I guess I guess
you're right. And the good people want more weed, and
we'll get them more weed, get them weed everywhere. Everybody
will have weed, and everybody will be late for work.
Nothing we'll get done, no one will go to work,
and the society will will collapse. That's okay, what the
hell we've had?
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Well, that's why people want to work from home.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Now, Yeah, you got that. That way they can smoke.
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 7 (38:29):
All.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
Great points, Daryl. I gotta run. I'm talking to you soon.
Here comes the news I got you in so you
didn't have to wait. Thanks Daryl. Coming back on Night's
side right after this. We'll continue with this cannabis cafe
issue for as long as you like, or we're gonna
switch topics. So I'm gonna go to Stacy, who is
kind enough to hold on through the newscast. Hey, Stacy,
(38:51):
what's your thought on the cannabis cafes in California. You know,
whatever happens in California eventually comes to Massachusetts.
Speaker 11 (38:59):
Really, but i'd like to I'm not getting off topic,
but I do want to mention that the medical marijuana
those places, there's only two right now that I know
of in Massachusetts, Meta and Brookline opened in twenty sixteen
for medical and I think you know, I have multiple sclerosis.
(39:20):
If I didn't smoke medical marijuana, my lesions are in
the front of my brain that affect my cognitive functioning,
and I wouldn't be able to focus and get anything done.
Nineteen it went to recreation and now there're a dime
a dozen. What they're doing is they're all selling everybody
else's product, but there's no medical anymore because the compliance
(39:44):
is so difficult.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
Okay, so what are you telling me? Okay, what I'm
hearing you say, correct me if I'm wrong, is that
the legitimate need for people like yourself who had a
medical need that was used by the medical by the
marijuana community as sort of the way to open the door.
(40:14):
Now that the door is opened, anybody in Massachusetts could
buy it. Anybody in Massachusetts, you know a certain age
could use it. But folks like yourself who are in
need of it, access for you is now tougher that
it was when it first started. It sounds like what
you're telling me is that correct?
Speaker 11 (40:33):
And to say that it is correct as a disabled person,
we don't pay taxes on medical marijuana if.
Speaker 7 (40:40):
You have a card.
Speaker 11 (40:42):
What the disservices with recreation is the young kids that
think they can go when they become a certain age
and they're just smoking pot. I get it recreationally. I
mean I grew up in the day when we smoked
one hundred percent pc and didn't care where it came from.
Now I'm very careful about the medical marijuana. I know
(41:03):
what works for me, and I know it doesn't. And
it's so frustrating to go to a recreational place having
to pay more than you should and not get the
product you want.
Speaker 2 (41:17):
So why why have they eliminated the medical marijuana dispensaries?
Why they too?
Speaker 11 (41:23):
Why have The question is why have that they not
opened more medical dispensaries? And the reason being is so
I'll tell you getting a license for that through compliance,
through the Mass Commission, whatever it is, is very very difficult,
very difficult. And the fact that there were two recreations
(41:46):
marijuana has opened across the street from each other. I
think it was in Quinsy is outrageous.
Speaker 7 (41:53):
You know.
Speaker 11 (41:53):
It makes people like us who require medical marijuana to
go through their product figure out what's in it? Is
it going to help me? It's just so much more
research than when you know what works in the medical.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Exactly well, well, you know, I have all the empathy
in the world for anybody like yourself, Stacy. In effect,
I think that the medical marijuana should be able to
even if you have to have the type that you
need in your doctor's office. I mean that that's you're
(42:33):
the folks who truly have a need for it. You're
not some twenty one year old who wants to get
stoned on Friday night with his friends and watch the
Three Stooges on TV.
Speaker 11 (42:43):
You know, I mean, oh, exactly exactly. And it really
you know, there's veterans out there that help, there's you know,
the lines were out the door when it first came
up medical and now the recreational is exactly what it is,
and we've kind of fallen by the wayside.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Because unfortunately you were the You were the folks who
kind of opened the door, and there were a whole
bunch of people standing behind you who kind of have
trampled over you.
Speaker 7 (43:16):
People. I'm sorry for people who requiet it.
Speaker 11 (43:20):
Netta taught me everything I know.
Speaker 7 (43:22):
It was so foreign to me.
Speaker 11 (43:24):
But you really, for medical purposes, you have to do
your research on the certain ones that make you more
aggressive than the others. And now again having to go
to a recreational and ask the question, learning it all
over again is just I wish they would turn around
and just go back and start.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
Well.
Speaker 11 (43:44):
The other reason that I think is very, very common
is corporate corporations are buying the recreational facilities and they're
trying to run them.
Speaker 7 (43:56):
Like corporate and you can't.
Speaker 11 (43:58):
It's a marijuana interest. They don't wear three piece suits
and tight shirts and all that. It's the marijuana industry.
And I've seen that in so many places that have
gone downhill because people are buying it as an investment,
not really sharing.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
And I think, all right, Stacy, best of luck. I
wish I had it. I wish I had an answer
for you. I don't, but I think you know that
that here in Massachusetts, we could we we could certainly
do better, uh in Massachusetts than in terms of serving
folks who really have a need for it. They're more concerned.
(44:34):
The folks who really have a need is a small subset.
So what they want to do is they want to
they use you guys to get it going, and now
you're getting pushed out of the way, which is just
dead wrong. Stacy, thank you for calling. Okay, and best
of luck with your your your your diagnosis, your condition,
and hopefully we can get it back on track.
Speaker 11 (44:54):
And I mean that honestly, so thank you Dean.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Okay, thanks Stacy talking to him. Good night. All right,
we come back. A couple of things here. I want
to change topics. A couple of things. One tomorrow night
we got the big vice presidential debate, the one and
only vice presidential debate. We didn't realize at the design,
but it was only going to be the one and
only Trump Harris debate. Back it was it September tenth,
(45:20):
I think yeah, I think it was. It's been a while.
The one and only vice presidential debate is tomorrow night.
You will be able to hear it in its entirety
here on WBZ at eight o'clock, we'll do an hour
on these two candidates and try to get your sense
as to what you expect. I think it's very interesting.
(45:43):
Normally the vice presidential debates aren't particularly interesting. I think
it's a very big contrast between Senator Vans of Ohio
and Governor Walds of Minnesota, and we'll talk about that
tomorrow night. What I do want to do, however, is
share with you. And I know some of you are
going to be happy and some of you are going
(46:04):
to be upset. There's a new NBC Heart Research Associates
Public Relations opinion poll public opinion strategies, and I'm going
to break down the internals in the poll. I don't
particularly care what the poll says, but when you know
(46:25):
how to read polls, and I think I'm able to
read them, and I think I'll be able to convince
you in this poll that this is not good news
for Donald Trump in my opinion. If the election were
held today today, today's September thirtieth, we still have the
month of October and then the election is on November fifth.
(46:46):
So we're talking about the election now is thirty seven
days away. If the election were held today, say hello
to President Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris, I just I will,
I will, I think convince you. You may not be
happy with the numbers, but I'm going to run the
numbers by you and I want to get your reaction
(47:06):
to them. We'll take a break if you'd like to
jump on board early and dispute the numbers. The numbers
are what they are six, one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty
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