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October 1, 2024 48 mins
What did you think about the vice presidential debate? Dan Rea shared his thoughts on who he believes won the debate and the biggest takeaways from the debate.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's a nicety. Dan Ray Undelling Mazy Boston's News.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Radio, Welcome back everyone. This is Dan Ray and Boston
along with you. I have listened here on CBS News.
I also watched it on a television set, and just
as Larry Sabato talked about the nineteen sixty debate between
Kennedy and Nixon, Larry Sabato from the University of Virginia

(00:27):
said that that debate was won by Kennedy on how
he looked. Uh, that is what I thought tonight. I
want to get your response number six, one, seven, two,
four to ten thirty, triple eight, nine, two, nine, ten thirty.
I thought that the winners tonight were the candidates. I

(00:48):
thought that the candidates had better answers than the moderators
had questions. I thought that there were a number of
subjects which were not touched. For example, there was no conversation,
not a word about Ukraine. There was not a conversation

(01:09):
about Russia and whether or not it's an expansionist country
at this point. There was no or little comment about
crime in US cities. If I'm someone who lives in
a US city, I don't think there was any question
that really touched on crime. There was a question on

(01:30):
gun control, but not on crime. There was no question
on the expansion of China, China's efforts to expand and
extend its influence throughout Asia. There was no question about
the long shoreman strike and the supply chain, the impact
it might have on the supply chain. There was no

(01:52):
question about the anti semitism, not only on college campuses
but across this country. There was no question about college loans.
There was no question about energy in the future of energy.
There was question about climate change, but there was no
question about something even as simple as airline delays. Think

(02:15):
about last winter, the amount of airline delays that people
dealt with in this country. The questions, Well, let me
give you my verdict on the debate, and I'll be
interested to see what you say. I think that JD.
Vance was the winner of this debate tonight. As a
matter of fact, I thought that both Vance not only

(02:37):
did much better. The question I would have is why
is he not at the top of the Republican ticket.
That would be my question, And I'll tell you why
I think Vance won the debate tonight. I think Vance
won the debate tonight in large part because of how
controlled he was. His answers were precise, much more precise
than Governor wallts Waltz. I thought did very well. But

(03:00):
I think that if I had to call a winner,
I'm going to call it J. D. Vince Now Vance
had more on the line tonight. According to an NBC
recent NBC Heart Research and Associate's Public Opinion Strategies poll,
Vance was hardly known by the American people. Has a
positive rating in September before this debate of only thirty

(03:22):
two percent. He had a negative rating. And again, the
way we group this, it's either the people have given
five choices, as we talked about this last night, very positive,
somewhat positive, neutral, somewhat negative, very negative. So Vance is
positive combined very positive and somewhat positive with thirty two
was thirty two. His somewhat negative and very negative combined

(03:44):
is forty five, so he was he's in effect at
minus thirteen if you want to look at it that way.
Tim Walls before tonight very positive or somewhat positive forty
and somewhat negative and very negative three. So Tim Walls
was a plus seven. I thought that that I thought

(04:08):
that the this is why I think the debate is
different by the result is different. Both candidates were on
camera during the well virtually the entirety of the debate,
except for when the moderators were posing their questions, so
we can get to some of those as well. Vance
looked controlled, responsive, engaged, and not often surprised. Walls looked

(04:38):
oftentimes frazzled. He sometimes had the look of your crazy
uncle at Thanksgiving. A couple of times on a side
shot almost looked like Don Rickles. The appearance of these
two men tonight, of course, there is a generational difference.
One is sixty and one is just turned forty, and
that played the Vance's at Vance's advantage. I want to

(05:03):
commend both of them for the way that they handled themselves,
and I also want to commend both of them for
shaking hands at the end, and their wives came up
and they exchanged pleasantries, and then they went and they
talked with the moderators. The moderators tried, in my opinion,
to be as fair as they could. But the only time,
the only time that one of the candidates was really

(05:26):
stopped would be when Viance was being stopped by Margaret Brennan.
And I think that she showed she didn't give Vance
an opportunity to She's talked over him, which was unnecessary.
The only person who appeared rude, in my opinion, during
the debate tonight was Margaret Brennan. So I've just got
the one minute mark from now less than a minute

(05:50):
from Rob. So now you know what, I think we
can talk about the issues that were discussed, and it
was a very high level debate. I got to be
honest with you, I think either of them could be
a presidential candidate.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty. Six one seven, nine, three,
one ten thirty. Those are the phone numbers. Let's light
him up. The six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
They are already packed. Six one, seven, nine three, one
ten thirty. Those lines are available. Let's light him up.
As I looked at the biographies of Tim Walls and JD. Vance, Uh,

(06:25):
Tim Walls was born in nineteen sixty four, so he
has just turned sixty.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
JD. Vance is born in nineteen eighty four. Uh in August,
so he has just turned forty. Tim Walls in the
nineteen nineties. I'm trying to figure this out here. Yeah,
he would have been a school teacher, an elementary school teacher,
UH in the nineteen nineties. And I think he said

(06:54):
he taught in the fourth grade. He could have been
teaching in the fourth grade. What defense would have been
in the fourth grade. Obviously he was teaching in I
guess either Nebraska or Minnesota, and Vance would have been
going to school in Ohio or Kentucky. But it just
twenty years makes quite a difference. So when I guess

(07:17):
you're in the fourth grade, probably when you're ten, I guess.
And Tim Walls could have been a fourth grade teacher
when jad Vance was ten and Tim Walls then would
have been about thirty. Seems like a big difference then. Anyway,
I like to play with numbers. The subjects that were touched.
You know, he started with Israel, which is fine. They

(07:39):
talked about Hurricane Helene, which got the climate change. Immigration
was touched. They talked about various economic plans, of leadership qualities, abortion,
which Walsh had much the best of that argument, gun control,

(08:00):
housing in rent, the childcare crisis, and the state of democracy. UH,
subjects that I think most of us are very familiar with.
But as I indicated, it was interesting the number of
subjects that were not discussed, and including big subjects like Ukraine,
which I thought that would have should have been discussed,

(08:21):
I think, and uh, there were there were a lot
of subjects China should have been discussed. Let's go to
the phone. It's going to start off with Matt down
in Florida. Let me see what what Matt thinks about
tonight's debate. Now, what'd you think?

Speaker 5 (08:38):
Well?

Speaker 6 (08:38):
I thought that was the best debate since Romney and
Obama just too you know, intelligent people with a handle
on reality. And they were both really amicable towards each other,
if that's the right word, and they were just very

(08:58):
I mean, that's that's America right there. That being said,
I think jd. Vance whipped his button like all over
the floor. Like it's not even close. But I thought
Waltz overperformed from his from what people thought he was
gonna do.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Wat he handled himself fine. I certainly don't think it
was a knockout. But I think if I was scoring
it as a judge, I would have to give it
very clearly to Vance. And I don't think that the
the head on camera shots of each Uh when when
Vance was speaking, you had Waltz looking over, sometimes seemingly confused.

(09:36):
When Waltz was speaking, Vance looked quite at ease. I
would you agree with that or no?

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Yeah, no, totally.

Speaker 6 (09:45):
I mean obviously that's going to have an effect on voters,
which it shouldn't, but I mean, yeah, I mean totally.
I thought that was I thought that certain points Walls
looked pretty uh like stunned.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, I felt that they split screen.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
And when you said he looked like Don Rickles, I
just burst out laughing. It's hilarious. No, no, no, no,
it's hilarious. It's just so funny. Look both of them.
It was just a real good debate. I mean, none
of them were outrageous on anything either one of them said.

(10:24):
And I think Vance really did a great job kind of,
you know, coming towards the middle, saying, listen, US Republicans
are really off base on a lot of these things,
but you know, this is how, this is how, this is.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
How we're going to kind of get to it, and
this side they've just been awful at trying to on
its effect on their effectiveness when they need to go.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
I thought Vance's weakest point was when I think walt
asked him, you know who won the election in twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
And I actually missed that point part.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
That was that was the last question.

Speaker 6 (11:00):
Yeah, they can't get over that.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
They just they can't get over that.

Speaker 7 (11:02):
They just can't.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
I think that I think that that there are answers
that the advance could have appeared better. He could have said, look,
there are some Republicans who dealt the result of the election,
but the election is done. Joe Biden was took the
oath of office. I mean, there's a there's a lot

(11:23):
of ways to answer that, but it almost as if
he was in fear of contradicting his running mate President Trump.
So that's all right.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
And then just the last point i'd say is uh
actually but uh second to last point, I'd make it
just wow, pretty pathetic that Biden couldn't call on net Yahoo.
That's a whole other topic, but that's uh, yeah, we'll
hit we'll.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Hit that tomorrow night. I was not aware that that
Biden not called today.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
He never called him, He never went onto a video
chat or anything. He just was kind of like, oh, yeah,
that happened today, Like I mean, it's just a complete disgrace.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, that's that's that's the penultimate point, what's your all?

Speaker 6 (12:00):
A good point, and the ultimate point was, I mean
this media, they just can't handle themselves. They kind of
interrupt the guy and then I mean, it's just so
transparent what they're doing. I mean, I mean, it's to watch.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Brent Brennan played the role of David Muir in.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
My opinion, right Oh, it's it's a disgrace and everyone
sees it and it only helps Trump in advance, honestly.
But I mean there's a that's.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
Like, you know, like uh uh home home radio there.

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Just like it's just a disgrace. It's just a disgrace.
But that's the things.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Then, well they say the subjects that weren't touched were
I think.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
Some state radio is what I meant to say, or
like state television, like state run television.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Right there, that's like a distress.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
All right, Thanks, I appreciate Thanks, buddy, talk to you soon.
Let's keep rolling here, going to go to Sander in Boston. Sandra,
you're next on Nightsiger, right ahead. Dan.

Speaker 8 (12:56):
I had a couple of issues.

Speaker 9 (12:59):
One was.

Speaker 8 (13:01):
When they started talking about January sixth, Yes, within the
last week, Representative Very louder Milk got a hold of
some transcripts, yes, of what President Trump actually asked of
General Mark Milly, and I don't see how we can

(13:21):
continue to talk about January sixth without publicizing what those
transcripts said, because it was very clear that President Trump
three days before January sixth asked General Mark Milly to
do whatever he had to do, soldiers, national Guard, whatever,

(13:43):
make the event safe. Now that came out about a
week and a half ago. Representative Very louder Milk got
the transcripts.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I read those transcripts and I agree with you, and
I think that the Republicans need to circulate that. But
again it gets back to your con not you. I'm
not blaming you, but it's over. Joe Biden won the
twenty twenty election. Joe Biden was inaugurated president on January twentieth,

(14:19):
twenty twenty one. He's been president now for about forty
five months. He's got about three or four months left
in his term October November December, so he's he's been
president for forty four months. To not blaming you, I
think if the Republicans were smart, they would do an

(14:39):
ad and highlight what those documents say. But they I
think this member of Congress had to pry those from
the January sixth committee.

Speaker 8 (14:52):
If I'm not mistaken, Yes, but I think there are
consequences to the twentieth the election that we are dealing
with right now, and we have a current Secretary of
State who utilized the CIA to encourage fifty one INTEL
operators to write a letter that definitely altered the perception

(15:19):
of the voting public, and we are paying the consequences
of that because we have a Secretary of State, Anthony Blencoln,
who is directly benefited and was from that. But was
he the right person for the job?

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah? Well again that gets into look, well, you're.

Speaker 8 (15:41):
Not supposed to use the CIA in a domestic Well,
of course not, of course not.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
And there were others who were used with that that
to and what the letter said was that the release
they used, they used the words very carefully. It said,
it has all the trademark, has all the trade marks
of a Russian disinformation campaign, and that should.

Speaker 8 (16:06):
Not be involved in our domestic election period.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
I think there's any question about that, Sandra. So I'm
assuming you were Were you pleased with Vance's performance tonight
or no?

Speaker 8 (16:20):
I thought every I thought both of them did sign,
and that they brought up interesting points. And I found
this debate more tolerable than the last one.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Oh my goodness, absolutely. I mean I thought that, and
I thought the fact that they shook hands and they
spoke at the end. I liked that, and and I
hope the American public saw it. I never saw they
did show when they when they first came on stage.
I'm they just the first shot of them. They were
both standing behind their podiums, unlike the ABC debate where

(16:54):
it showed the vice president coming out, and she was
the vice president was the one initiated the handshake with
Donald Trump. She actually went over to him, uh and
and had to kind of move to the back of
his diais in order to get a handshake. Anyway, Sandra's
always I appreciated very much. Thank you for taking the
time to call all all interesting points, all interesting points.

(17:17):
Thanks Andrew nine two good night, six seven two thirty
one line there six one seven, nine ten thirty. If
you listened to or watched the debate, tell me and
tell my audience in thirty eight states and across America.
What did what did you think? What stood out? I

(17:37):
think you've heard my comments on it. I want to
hear yours. Uh. If you think that one of the
candidates just was outstanding, that's fine. Tell me why if
you think that one of the candidates. I think that
that they both did good jobs for their campaign. But

(17:57):
I do think that Van one his his answers were
very crisp. For the most part, they attempted to answer
the questions. Walls got hung up on the Tianaman Square,
which is a lot of inside baseball. By the way,
I'll give you that. The only line open right now

(18:18):
is six one. Love to hear from you. We'll be
back on night Side right after this.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Okay, let's keep rolling. You're gonna go to David in
San Francisco. David next on Nightside, Go right ahead.

Speaker 9 (18:37):
Oh yeah, hey Dan, Yeah, I'm of course disappointed with Trump,
but it's more along the lines that.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
You know, the.

Speaker 9 (18:46):
Climate change denial is getting Americans killed.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
David is to talk about who you think won the
debate tonight. Would you like to comment on that?

Speaker 9 (18:58):
Who won it? All the people at wals of course,
because he does believe that climate change is real and
Vance does not. And so America's money met past billions
of dollars have been wasted because of the cow towing
to the polluters that have caused climate change and.

Speaker 5 (19:20):
The idea of that.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
So we're talking about the poes in China and Pakistan.
I assume.

Speaker 9 (19:27):
We outsourced jobs to them, and now the pollution is
over in their yard. But these are American or international
corporations that are polluting over there. So that's a dirty,
dirty answer.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
That's one question on the debate tonight. And for you,
that was it pretty much. I guess right.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
Climate change is real, and the fact that we have
two candidates, well, we'll.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Talk about climate change some night. We want to talk
about climate change. Left, have you called back? We could?
We could spend a whole hour on climate change. We
talk about that often. Actually, David, thanks very much for
the call. Appreciated. Let me go to on dot and
med for Dot next on Nightsig go ahead.

Speaker 10 (20:07):
Hi Dan. Of course, I watched the whole debate Sat
Baron looked at everything, and I agree that Vance came
out on top. I thought Wurtz was kind of jittery.
He was almost like jittery and he looked like a
deer in the headlights on a couple of times. But

(20:29):
I think he was nervous. But they did, they agreed
on certain things, and they shook hands. I mean, it
was very very it was very nice to see.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, it was. That was actually positive, and particularly after
a lot of the name calling that's been going on.
And we talked about that last night, and yeah, I
thought elevated the conversation and discussion. Now I don't know,
you know, I talked earlier about the viewpoints of the

(21:04):
public towards Vance and towards Waltz, and Walls has received
much better publicity. He seems Walls seems like one of
these guys, good guys. But Walts did answer questions and
and he engaged. There were a couple that he tried
to slip and slide on, but they I thought they
both did a credible job. And I thought that Vance
was more relaxed, more responsive. He also had to deal

(21:27):
with Margaret Brennan, who clearly decided that.

Speaker 10 (21:30):
She was a line.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, I think again a line, you know, And and
some of the questions that when you look at the
balance of the questions they were again there was there
was no question about what do you do about Russia?
What do you do about? How about a question about Ukraine?
What about question about.

Speaker 10 (21:49):
What about a question of sending our boys over to
the mid to the Mid East? I mean our boys
are over there, they could be getting killed, and then
what's going to happen?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Well, there was no question. There was no question about China.
I mean the next big problem for US, I think
down the line and Taiwan, which of course China has
its eyes on. Right now, no question about the long
shoreman strike could have been a weak right now, yes,
or no question would would if you invoked tafteartly to
make to stop this strike? I mean, this strike goes

(22:24):
on for a few days or a couple of weeks,
is going to be devastating.

Speaker 10 (22:29):
Oh my god, yeah, very very bad, very bad.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
And no question at all about the rise of anti
Semitism in this country is not a word?

Speaker 10 (22:38):
Not a word?

Speaker 2 (22:40):
So how can you ignore all of those questions? Now?
The question they asked, they were, fine, Okay, we're talking
about Israel today. I get that you want to spend
a little time on climate change. Fine, immigration, Okay, that's
a legitimate, a legitimate question, right, And then, but then
then you get into the economic plans. They spent a
lot of time on that abortion. Was there any question

(23:02):
in anyone's mind as to how Vance is going to
answer the question on abortion? I mean, that's that's an
important question. But but I think we pretty much know
what a candidates stand on that, gun control, housing in rent.
They have all important questions. The childcare crisis, that's an
important question. It did right. No, But and then the

(23:26):
state of democracy, Well, the state of democracy is nothing
more than a softball to Vince. I want to know
what's going on. What's their plan for China? How do
we keep China?

Speaker 10 (23:39):
Oh, they weren't going to get into that. No, no, yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
These and these are all serious questions. And I just
and the other thing too, is what they needed to
do is say, okay, look we want to ask you know,
we want to ask twenty questions. We don't want to
ask ten questions that are eminently predictable. We'd like to
ask twenty questions because you could prepare each of them
for the nine questions that were asked. You knew abortion

(24:05):
was going to be asked, you knew immigration was going
to be asked, You knew today Israel was going to
be asked, and but blas well the question about which
was the first question about should should the United States
support an attack by Israel on Iran? That's up to Israel.

(24:27):
That's up to Israel. And that played exactly into the
Biden administration, which was telling Israel how to conduct its
own war. And Waltz avoided the question. Advance right out
of the box answered the question. I just think that
it was it was not a great proof.

Speaker 10 (24:43):
It's going to be interesting to see what the papers
say tomorrow about who won.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
It'll be very interesting. It'll be very interesting if there
are polls tonight as to who won. Now, granted you
have you know, most most people who were committed themocratic
voters would say Waltz won, and most people who are
Republicans are going to say Vance. But the question is
where's that split? And I'll tell you I think the
Vance helped himself tonight. I don't think that what Walt's

(25:13):
Waltz hurt himself, but I think that Vance clearly was better.
And when you well, I.

Speaker 10 (25:18):
Think Walts was Walts and what you expected. That's how
he is. He's very jittery or jumpy or something I
don't know what it is about you looked at.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Them, you know. Again, I don't think the fact that
the camera was trained on each of them while each
was speaking. So while Vance is speaking, Walls looked nervous
and sometimes a little bit fuddled, sometimes like what did
he what did he mean by that? And I think
that's just a Vance Vance.

Speaker 10 (25:47):
Vance never looked befuddled.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean, well, very.

Speaker 10 (25:51):
Clear and very you know, competent. Really well.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Again that if that's what three years at Yale Law
School will do, we'll do fine.

Speaker 10 (25:59):
I had that could be, that could be right where
it was. It was very good and I agree with
you about how it went.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, all right, thanks Don, I appreciate thanks, appreciate your
call very much. Let me try to get one more
in here before the break. Thanks dot uh and again
I got some open lines I want to hear from you.
Let me go to Jay in Pennsylvania. Jay, going to
get you in here quickly before we go to the
news at the bottom of the ar Go ahead, Jay.

Speaker 11 (26:27):
Yeah, I want to say, fans ask the question and
everybody where I live, and that's the many it is.
She's been in office for three and a half years,
four thousands of hot days and what has she done?

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Absolutely, I think it's fourteen hundred days, not four thousand.

Speaker 11 (26:44):
Yeah, I'm sorry, fortunate problem for.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Four thousand would be a little longer. But yeah, so
I think that was the theme. They each had their themes.
You're you're right about that. I think that they both
effectively worked their themes into it. President Trump. When former
President Trump had no theme to his UH, to his
his debate with the vice president, he was all over

(27:09):
the lot. I mean, whoever prepared Vance should have prepared Trump.
And maybe it was the same people. I don't know. Yeah,
what did you think? So, I assume you're your Trump supporter? Okay,
how did you think wals did? I thought Walsted under

(27:30):
the circumstances pretty well. It was really his first big night.
You know, Dvance has been holding news conferences and taking
questions from reporters for for for weeks now, and before
that he had been in a tough UH Senate race
in Ohio. I don't know, this was kind of new
to Walston that I thought.

Speaker 11 (27:49):
Yeah, I have. Unfortunately I did not watch it. I'm driving,
so I've been driving to West r Indiom trying to
get back to stations and command come out and man
come out. So but what I did hear of it?
I think, Man, he didn't hesitate on anything.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I mean, right on.

Speaker 11 (28:06):
Point quick response to the other one hesitated as a veteran,
I'll never support that.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Okay, Well I think that did you and I read
it pretty pretty similarly. Uh. Jay, Always great to hear
your voice. Keep calling and keep listening tonight'side. How was
the reception in West Virginia? If I could ask in
your car tonight?

Speaker 11 (28:36):
Oh, that part is very great.

Speaker 9 (28:38):
It's great.

Speaker 11 (28:38):
I just wish it was that great coming up and
down the mountains listening to the debate.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Thanks Jay, appreciate you call. Thank you much. Yes, sir,
I have a great night. Keep calling that side. Okay,
we're going to take a quick break. I got a
couple of open lines. If you've been trying to get
through six one seven or six one seven, one ten thirty.
Want to hear from you if you watch the debate,
if you listen to the debate on the radio, maybe

(29:07):
have a different point of view if you listen to it.
I think that TV helped vance tonight, just like it
helped Jack Kennedy in nineteen sixty. I think that the
age difference is only twenty years, but it looked a
lot longer, a longer time than twenty years between Vance
and Waltz. And again that's we should focus on content,

(29:32):
but you've got to focus also on a little stylistically
as well. But substantively, they both did very well. Although
I give I give the decision to Vance, and if
you disagree with me, you know, please, I'm looking, actually,
I'm looking for some people who can tell me that
that in their opinion. Walls, I'd love to hear your

(29:52):
thought on it. Again, it's all subjective. There's no right
or wrong. Feel free six one seven two thirty or
six seven nine, three one ten thirty. Back on Nightside.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
Right after this, you're on night Side with Dan Ray
on w b Z, Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
I know numbers on radio are tough to talk about,
but as I said, in this NBC poll in September, JD.
Vans had a positive, very positive or slash somewhat positive
rating of merely thirty two. His somewhat negative, very negative
rating was forty five. Tim Walls had a positive, somewhat
very positive, somewhat positive of forty and his negative rating

(30:37):
was thirty three, so Vance as of September twenty twenty
four was thirteen thirteen points underwater. Uh Jim Walls seven
points to the good. The same poll, they asked people
about capitalism of socialism. Capitalism fifty one percent of the
American public positive very positive, negative twenty five percent, somewhat negative,

(31:02):
very negative, socialism positive eighteen percent, negative fifty five percent.
That is a theme that the Republicans should start to
talk about if they want to win this election. That's
an amazing number. Tom and the Philippines, John, welcome. How
are you sure it's it's morning time in the Philippines.

Speaker 12 (31:24):
I guess right, it's eleven thirty eight, it's almost lunchtime. Yeah.
I listened to the debate. I didn't watch it, and
you know, they both came off pretty good. I gotta
be honest with you. Yeah, And you know I'm a
Trump support. I'm a I'm supporter. But I don't know

(31:44):
if it changed anybody's views in this election.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, I think Vans had more to gain because his
his positive rating accluding the NBC poll combined very positive,
somewhat positive thirty two. I think a lot of people
are going to look at him a lot more favorably
than thirty two. That's all.

Speaker 7 (32:04):
Sure.

Speaker 5 (32:06):
Yeah, And you know the thing that bothers me with
these debates. I don't like to use the term mainstream
media anymore. I would prefer to call it mainstream propaganda.
And I just look at the people that work for
the major networks and they've all got a political bias,

(32:29):
and for them not to be honest about that, that's
the one thing that really upsets me.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
But it's an obvious political bias. Tom. If it was subtle,
you'd say okay, but it's it's it's just out there.
They don't know.

Speaker 12 (32:47):
And you know, it's funny because I went to high
school with people that worked for the Associated Press as
well as other prominent newspapers in New England, and it's
just these people that I went to school with know
them personally. They just viewed Donald Trump as as Idolph Hitler.

(33:14):
And it's like, wait a minute, that is such hyperbole.
And you might not like his points of view, you
might not like the fact that he appointed judges to
the Supreme Court that overturned Row versus Wade, but he
never ever came out and said I want an absolute
ban on abortion. And for me, you know, if this

(33:36):
is nineteen eighty eight, I voted for dou Caucus. I
was very liberal back then, and on the topic of abortion.
Back then, I was pro choice, that it's a woman's right. Myself,
I've evolved on that issue. I like what they do
in Western Europe and I'm not against abortion, but there
should be some reasonable restrictions on abortion. And I'm sorry,

(34:01):
but when you get to the eight and a half
months of pregnancy and the woman's life is the mother's
life is not in jeopardy, the woman just decides to
get rid of terminate this pregnancy eight and a half months,
I'm sorry, that's a viable human being.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Well, I don't think that would have been allowed under
Roll versus way as I read Row versus Way. Now again,
it's more, it's very complicated because eight months where who
is told that the that the child is going to
be born dead?

Speaker 12 (34:32):
I mean, you know, it's a very complicated but good right,
But but but man, what the point I'm making is
that if there's no problem with with the pregnancy, and
there's no problem, I don't think.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Way, I don't think that they would that an abortion
of of a fetus, a live fetus, a live child
would be legal under Row versus Way. I read as
I've read, and I understand Roe versus Way, Tom, and
I think that I think that I think that the

(35:07):
Republicans have accomplished what they wanted to do, which was
get it back to the States. But yeah, there there
is a and I thought Waltz made a good point
tonight that if you're a woman who lives in a state,
let us say, like Alabama or Mississippi, and you don't
have a lot of support and you are pregnant and

(35:27):
you want to get an abortion, you know relatively early
on you're gonna have to travel quite a distance, of course.

Speaker 12 (35:35):
And just by the way. The one thing that with
regards to Roe versus Wade, when I hear this that
it's a constitutional right. Well, a Supreme Court in the
past has been wrong on a lot of things, like
the dread Scott decision. And the other thing is there
there's nothing in the Constitution that says anything about medical care.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
All right, Again, I could tell you this, I know
this issue pretty well. There was a case that preceded
Me versus Way, rate Roe versus Way, which was Griswold
versus Connecticut. It was it was an area dealing with
birth control. Uh, and there was the the the decision
was written talked about certain numbers and emanations. That was

(36:20):
the phrase that laid the groundwork for privacy, which then
became sort of the fundamental uh sub sub substructure or
infrastructure of Roe versus Way. But I don't want to
do I don't want to do a law class on
I know, of course, the point you're making.

Speaker 12 (36:40):
All right, Dan, you take care of yourself and always
always a pleasure to call into your program.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Thank you very much. Tom, have a great day out there. Okay,
let me keep rolling here, going to go to Karen
in Lemonster. Karen, you were next on Nicside. Thanks for
calling it.

Speaker 13 (36:54):
Yes, I just wanted to say that I think that
I did listen to debate, and I think, uh, you know,
they both did a good job. But I thought J. D.
Lance won the debate.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 13 (37:10):
Ms and everything.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, like anything else, he was thinking
quicker on his feet. I thought that his his his
his line of thought was was more effective and linear
almost and uh and he's he's he's got a pretty
sharp mind. I mean, he kept the questions in mind,
and he he made his points I thought, very effectively.

(37:34):
But we'll see what the polls say tomorrow. We'll see
what what CNN says. And of course I think if
you hear CNN saying well as as CBS said tonight,
I was listening to their wrap up, well, these these
vice presidential debates have no impact.

Speaker 14 (37:51):
Well I think they do.

Speaker 13 (37:52):
I think they might because you know, you listen. I
listened to others and I think they do.

Speaker 2 (37:58):
Yep. I would agree. And again, particularly UH, you if
you elect the vice president who is a heartbeat away,
that's you always have to keep that in mind and
who is And.

Speaker 13 (38:12):
I think people have to remember another thing about Donald Trump,
what she's done for these people during the hurricane and
Georgia in North Carolina. I think he's helped people.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Well, he was down there. He certainly had a presence,
and I think that he beat both UH Vice President
Harris and President Biden down there. I'm not sure that
President Biden is in the physical condition.

Speaker 13 (38:41):
He probably isn't, Yeah, which is unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
No one should take any joy in that because all
of us will at different stages in our lives. Karen,
thank you much. As always. You got to call more frequently, Okay,
miss talk a lot.

Speaker 13 (38:55):
Well, I'll try to call. I just want to say not.
The thing I liked it about the debate was very
civil compared to this.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
It was very civil. There were moments of agreement. I
liked the fact that they shook hands at the end.
There were a lot of positives, and they even went
up and shook hands with the moderators, and they brought
their wives up to introduce them to each other. I thought,
I thought it was a class act tonight. I didn't
appreciate some of the questions that were ignored. As I said,

(39:24):
I would have liked to have heard thoughts about China,
particularly they stayed away from China because Tim Walls apparently
has had thirty trips to China. Thirty. Yeah, and the
idea is that, look, as a governor, you can have trips.
Our governor does trips to different places, Italy, Ireland, et cetera.

(39:47):
Thirty is a lot of trips and years he became
fascinated with China and maybe he saw that as a trip.
Nothing about the anti semitism on college campuses, nothing about
crime in US cities, nothing about Ukraine. It wasn't one
question about Ukraine.

Speaker 13 (40:02):
Yeah, that's I miss that.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
People listened to the questions that I think should be asked,
and I think that they devoted probably too much time
to some They went back to the whole question about democracy.
Who's opposed to democracy? I'm not opposed to it. You're
not opposed to me.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
All that was was It was an opportunity. It's the
final question for to bring up January sixth again. That
was all it was. Itself is a bias question. Whatever.
Everybody knows what happened. Everybody has made their decision, their
mind up on it anyway. Whatever, Thanks Karret, appreciate the call. Okay,
I'm going to get one more in here real quickly.

(40:40):
And I got four. I'm going to get one now
real quickly. Let me go quickly, Matt and Brighton. Matt,
do me a favor here and give me a quick answer,
will you who won? What did you think?

Speaker 7 (40:54):
I think JD won?

Speaker 3 (40:56):
Evance? You know, I think, like you said, I don't
think think both them doubled down and said things that
were very hypocritical, you know, while also saying stuff about
that's defend Israel and you know, let their proxies grow.
But that's also support Gaza. You know, he didn't want it.
He did not answer about Iran. He danced around that

(41:19):
and JB danced around abortion. So uh so, you know, look,
stand I want to do maybe real quick. JD won
in my opinion, but they need to stand to their principles.
And I don't think either one of them being at
some point contradict themselves. And I think that's you know,

(41:39):
that's a big harm. But shame and Tim Wallas for
not you know, defending Israel war and he gave to
Palestine you know before.

Speaker 5 (41:48):
Oh yeah, they.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Walk the fence there and you know on the day
that that over two hundred ballistic missiles were fired by
Iran at Israel, if they was every day, yeah, right, obviously, yes,
I'm aware with that as well. Yeah, happy Russia, Shana,
my friend.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
We'll talk.

Speaker 5 (42:09):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
I appreciated all right, quick, quick time out for a
couple of messages. We've gott Dustin and Michigan's coming up.
I got Chris and the Cape. I'm gonna try to
get everybody, and I promise we're back right after this.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Now back to Dan Ray line from the Window World
Light Side Studios on w b.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Z News Radio.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
I think MSNBC is saying one was smooth the other one.
Well that that's all you need to know. If if
that's the best they can come up with, and I
think we're right Dustin and Michigan, Dustin, I'm gonna get
you and at least four others in here real quickly.
Who won? Who lost? Dustin?

Speaker 5 (42:46):
What do you think I'm gonna say? They probably both won?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
The problem is, though, I think one man showed that
he had the honor to uh all the truth when
it came to his decision on comments he made about
the ex president and how he evolved with the way
the president ran. I'm talking about Trump and the way

(43:14):
he ran his administration. So when they tried to get
advance to go against what Waltz did with his lies
about the military and about you know, being in China
or wherever, that was square. Yeah, And that was an out.

(43:35):
That was an actual lie.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
And he really was a lot ob.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Yeah, it was. It was really it was almost like
that nightly news guy that said he watched bodies floating
down the.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
New Orleans New Orleans. Yeah, Low imagination.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
I just want to hit on a couple other things.
I know you want to just hear about who won,
who lost.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
To do, Dustin, I hate to do this year. I
got four folks behind you. I'm trying to get everybody
in here, so can you yeah, real quick, real quick.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
I'm the abortion thing.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
I believe.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
I'm a male. I believe all women should be able
to vote on that only. I think all men should
be out of it. That way, men don't have to
worry about skating back and forth like these two guys did.
They don't have to say to the church. They don't
have to. They just let the women do what.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
They gotta do.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
And I know what they can tell.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Dustin. It's your first time calling my show. I believe
it is.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Correct, yesday.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Listen at.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
No first time because I was I'm in my I'm
on the road, and I wanted to hear it on
the radio.

Speaker 7 (44:39):
So that good show you give me.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Ronald Clause, come on back, run every night Monday through Friday,
Monday night, WBZ lock ten thirty on your AM dial
in in the car. Thanks Dustin, I got John.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
iHeart man.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Okay, WBC Boston, you got it. Thanks Dustin, appreciate it.
Have a great one. Okay, Now I'm gonna crunch everybody here,
Chris and the cave. Chris Veteran call it. What can
you do for me? Chris?

Speaker 7 (45:02):
Yeah? Hi, Dan. I would say JD. Vance was poised, focused,
uncharacteristically conciliatory, could have been stronger on a lot of points,
but was far more worldly than Waltz. I think Waltz
presented himself as an honest, trusting homeroom teacher, which he

(45:24):
came from, but altogether too parochial and always sort of
going back to home base Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota. That's one
state among fifty, and one state in a world in
turmoil that I just don't think he's secure with. But

(45:46):
I don't have a favored candidate.

Speaker 2 (45:49):
But that's my that's my opinions changed from did you
have an opinion of Vance before tonight or no?

Speaker 7 (45:56):
Yeah. I thought he was not particularly conciliatory. I thought
he wasn't neutering basically all the negatives of his presidential partner.
But I think he presented pretty well in conciliatory, which
I thought was uncharacteristic. So I think that fifty to

(46:20):
fifty I'd give him, you know, a fifty one.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
I got to keep rolling. Here, my friend with balks
whom thanks Chris Edin Beverly. I'm going to give three
people about twenty seconds. Go ahead, Ed, what do you want?
What do you want to say? Twenty seconds?

Speaker 4 (46:33):
I would say my opinion of both of them went
up tonight. Okay, I think they both. I think they
both did a good job. If I could, I would
vote for the for the Vance Walls ticket over shown parents.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I think you know what, I think a lot of
people might feel that way right now, including myself. To
be honest with you, I love that comment.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
I think the senior supporters did a horrible job.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
Yeah, I'm with you on that one too, Ed, you
and I are right in the money. We'll talk soon. Okay, thanks, thanks,
thank you much, Richie. And know what, Richie, you got
to be quick for me. Okay, really quick? Go ahead?

Speaker 14 (47:09):
All right, Danny, how you doing it? Advance messed up
on two big things. Say I ran deal, but say
we thought they were doing something wrong. We couldn't just
go in there. We had to let them know we
thought something was wrong. Then we had to give them
twenty one days before we could go in terrible deal
to border deal. We had to let forty five hundred
people per day come in.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
All right, So who wanted the debate? Rich? Real quickly?
In your opinion?

Speaker 9 (47:38):
I guess the Vance guy.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
I mean, I'm a Trump guy, and okay, I gotta get.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
One more in Rich. I hate to do it to you,
but I got a call earlier. Okay, last of the night, Stu.
You got about ten seconds.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
Go for it, Kay said, we got to put an
end to war, or war will put an end to us.

Speaker 2 (47:58):
Okay, we wanted a debate.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
Guys who wanted the debate?

Speaker 11 (48:02):
I would say the guy that told the truth, and
that was Advance.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
All right, sir, I gotta run. Thank you much. Call early.
We give you more time, Rob Brooks, great job, great
job to Marita today. Thank you so much. We begin
year eighteen tonight on Nightside. My name's Dan Rayo Dodgs.
All cats off, pets go to heaven. That's why Pal
Charlie Rayes, who passed fourteen months ago, that's where are
your pets are who passed? They loved you and you
love them. You'll see them again. See again tomorre night

(48:28):
on Nightside. I'll be on Facebook nights Side with Dan
Ray in about two minutes.
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