November 4, 2024 • 37 mins
While many are focused on the important presidential election between Trump and VP Harris, there were also important ballot questions here in Massachusetts. The questions cover several issues including auditing the state legislature, eliminating the MCAS, legalizing psychedelics and more. What questions were most important to you and why?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan ray I WBZ Constance video.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, tomorrow is election twenty twenty four. There's just.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It is upon us. It is twenty four hours from now.
The voting will in most parts of the country be concluded,
certainly in the East Coast and in the Central time zone,
there's still polls will still be open twenty four hours
from now in the Mountain time zone, and of course
in Alaska, Hawaii and in the Pacific time zone. But
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tonight I thought we would take the balance of the
program to talk about political races near and far and
also issues.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And I want to start off with.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
The ballot questions here in Massachusetts, and some of you
who are running for office may have strong thoughts on
any of these particular ballot positions, so you were more
than welcome to join in if you involved in one
of the ballot issues. I know that the state auditor,
Diana Desauglia, very much wants to audit the state legislature,
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and that's going to be one that supposedly has a
really good chance of passing. One that apparently is going
to be very sharply contested is question two, dealing with
the elimination of MCAST as a high school graduation requirement.
It will not eliminate MCAST testing at the various grades
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the third grade and the fifth grade and the eighth grade,
but it will would, if passed, eliminate the high school
requirement for graduation that they pass in the tenth grade,
the MCAST requirements both in math and English. Then, of
course there is the question of unionizing the transportation network drivers,
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which means uber and lyft, and whether that will be
permitted in Massachusetts. My sense is that that one is
probably one that is going to pass MUSTER. Then one
that we've focused and we'll focused on all of these here.
By the way, recently the legalization and regulation of certain
natural psychedelic substances. That is another issue that you want
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to think about before you go into the polls tomorrow.
So you can get a little overwhelmed with the five
ballot questions and the last ballot question that and when
you read the you can gloss over minimum wage for
tipped workers. This is a push that's coming from an
out of state group, and a lot of the restaurants
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and a lot of the waiters and waitresses in Massachusetts
have spoken out against this. It gets a little complicated,
but I just would like to open up the phone lines,
give everyone an opportunity. Who's out there tonight, whether you
are a candidate or you support a candidate. I'd like
to focus in the nine o'clock hour on Massachusetts. Stay
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a little local here and and certainly the ballot questions
are are are are pertinent to Massachusetts. When we get
to ten o'clock, maybe we'll talk more about the presidential race.
But let's let's just open up phone line six one
seven two thirty UH six one seven nine three one
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ten thirty. We're joined now by a Republican Senate candidate,
State Senate candidate Kelly Duner, who was actually a guest
of ours a few weeks ago on the UH she
actually filed a Freedom of Infmation Act on the number
of people who are a number of EBT cards that
are about in Massachusetts. So we welcome back Kelly Douna.
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Thanks for calling in. We didn't pre schedule this, but
nice to nice to know that you're on the line
currently a city councilor in Taunton, Massachusetts, Council of Duna.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
How are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Hello, Dan, I'm doing great, How are you we're doing great.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
We did invite your your opponent to join us, not tonight,
but after you had appeared with us earlier this month.
Mister Pachico, not the Senate candidate, not the senator who's
whose seat you're vying for. He Mark Pachico was retiring.
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How what what's your position on some of these ballot
questions that will help define you? I think as a
as a candidate, have you taken pretty strong positions on
any of these ballot questions?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I have the one in five are or two that
I've taken very very strong positions on. For number one,
I couldn't have signed that petition quick enough to audit
the legislature. I think we all know there is zero
accountability up on Beacon Hill and absolutely no transparency when
it comes to anything that they're doing in any form
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of operation. So again I couldn't have signed that petition
and fast enough. I am thrilled that that is on
the ballot. I do think Massachusetts is going to make
the decision to you know, put it forth and move
it forward, and I'm extremely excited for that because again,
you know, there is no accountability, there's no transparency, and
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there needs to be some I would argue that we
probably have one of the least transparent legislatures in the
United States of America. So I'm hoping this can help
alleviate that that challenge or at least light on that question.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Question one is being sponsored by a former state senator
who went on to be is now the state auditor
here in Massachusetts, Diana Desauglia, who happens to be a Democrat.
You're a Republican, so you will you will be in
uh in concert with a statewide officeholder who's a Democrat,
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which is good that Republicans and Democrats might be able
to work together on some things.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, and you know, this is one of those things
that you know, I don't see it as a party
politic issue, but this affects everybody in the Commonwealth of
Massachusetts and doing what's in the best interests of everybody,
and I think auditing the legislature is absolutely in the
best interest of the taxpayers and the residents here in
the commonwealth. So looking forward to supporting that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, it may not be party issue, but the fact
of the matter is that the legislature, both in the
House and the Senate. I mean, there are only four
Republican state senators now out of a group of forty,
so only ten percent of the State Senate is Republican.
And I think it's about twenty five or so members
of the one hundred and sixty member House.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So it's the House leadership.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Which is overwhelm, which is obviously Democratic leadership, which is
resisting the Democratic state auditor, which is going to make
for a really interesting story.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
What was the other ballot question that you had an
interest in?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Number five? You know, I've gone around to as many
restaurants as I possibly could, just to talk to the
bartenders and talk to the waitresses. And even while I'm
out knocking on doors, I end up obviously on doorsteps
of waitresses. And I initially learned this was pushed by
an out of state organization from somebody on their doorstep
who was a waitress. So I'm looking forward to supporting
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them in this, and you know, I do not believe
in what they're trying to push forward for number five,
So I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
For you too. You would be a yes on one
and a no on five. My understanding is that the
group that is pushing it's a California group and they
have pushed it in several states, including Massachusetts. But what
I understand is there are a lot of waitresses, waiters
and waitresses who say, no, we're doing just find the
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way it is right right, And.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It seems like they didn't give, you know, the people
who are affected most by this a seat at the table.
And I even have talked, I've spoken with the business
owners themselves, actually small and local business owners, and they're
also not in support. So whoever's pushing this forward didn't
give the stakeholders, you know, a seat at the table.
And for me, that's an automatic no. When you're not
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giving those people who are affecting most, say it, a
voice in the matter. You know, I'm an automatic NOE
for me on that one. So those are two that
I'm definitely very passionate about. One in five.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, Well, it's interesting because we tried to get a
spokesperson locally for what's you know, on the other side
of the issue, just in the in the in the
spirit of fairness, and we couldn't even find anyone locally
who represented this ballot position.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So I believe that I agree with both of you.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
If I was in the district, I would be very
pleased that you would be voting on both of those.
So anyway, look, best of luck tomorrow. We didn't have
a chance to your your My producer reached out to
your opponent, so, uh, your your opponent has not had
a chance to be on night side. But you're running
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a very aggressive race. You were able to get a
lot of information about the EBT cards. And I hope
that as uh as a state senator, you'll be able
to pursue some of those issues. And and and I
wish I wish your best of luck. I wish everyone
best of luck tomorrow, but I wish you one to
one here, best of luck Kelly doing it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
You're a district ye down.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I know it's in the southeast corner. What are some
of the areas in the district.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
It's the third Bristol, Third Bristol and Plymouth district, consisting
of taw In, Berkeley, Rainham, Carver, Maryon, Wareham, Dieton, Rehoboth.
What else do we have him here?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I'm sure you have some.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Money in there. Seaconges, I said, rahob and wear him
Marian yep. I think that's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You got to get them all in. That's for sure well,
Kelly doing it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Thanks thanks again, and we'll have to see how it
works out. And will you if you're elected this to
the state Senate, will you continue as a city councilor
or are you going to give up that post?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I would not continue as a city councilor. For me,
if I can't give one hundred percent to something, you know,
I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
It would be.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Doing the residence of disservice, So I will not remain
on the city council. I'm also not a huge fan
of holding you know, a statewide office and a local office.
I think there may be some conflicts with that.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yep, no, I had to ask you the question, but
I think that's the right answer. At least that's the
that's what rings true to me. Thanks so much, Kelly,
Best elect tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Thanks Dan bybye.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Very welcome and take a little.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Quick break here, and if you'd like to join us,
you don't have to be a candidate. I want to
hear from those of you who feel strongly about some
of the ballot issues. This is what but I think
a lot of people want to know about and maybe
you've looked at some of these issues more carefully than others.
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We've talked about virtually well, we've talked about all of
them to one degree or another. So please feel free
to join the conversation if there's one that you think
is particularly important. I mean, I think they're all important,
certainly the psychedelic the question four is important, and people
on both sides. We had a great conversation with us
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on Friday night here between different perspectives on it. We
attempted to get people on both sides of the elimination
of the medcap mcast graduation requirement. The Teachers' Union was
not particularly the unions who I think are in favor
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of getting rid of it. That's a no vote on
question number two in my opinion. So feel free. You
can make whatever pitch you want. Candidate, and you would
like to mention your candidacy, You're welcome to do that
as well, Republicans, Democrats, and our independents, whatever whatever is.
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We will cut off the local conversation at ten o'clock,
So if you want to get in, now's the time.
Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty, six one seven, nine,
three thirty Coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We go to Suzanne in Newton. Suzanne, welcome back.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
How are you good evening?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Thank you for taking by call. I have a ride
to the polls to borrow devote in person. And I
know that's the valid questions. I still say, waiters thought
and you should share tips. I don't think diversity in
our schools requires the elimination of the MS.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I don't think diversity has anything to do with MCST.
I think that.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Years ago to get into college. And but anyway, and
I don't think high school graduate should delive it should
administer the magic mushrooms. And that's that's all. Thank you
for taking Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
We got the list. Thanks as the appreciated. Let me
go to Chris Is next up. Chris is a Massachusetts
state Senate candidate on the Cape.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I have seen your signs, Chris los On. How are you, sir?
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Doing very well?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (13:39):
How are you good?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You have an interesting background. You are not a politician.
If I'm not mistaken you you actually run an auto
repair business.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
Correct, that is correct. I'm an auto mechanic.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
I was there today. I'm there in between campaigning.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Uh so.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Why do you want to end up on Beacon Hill?
I guess I would ask.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Well, well, you know, I'm used to going to work
and fixing things to get paid. So I want to
bring that to Beacon Hill fix some things, you know,
unlike our current legislators. You know, I've got four kids
that i'm raising here. I one them they have a
good future.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Of the ballot questions, again, I think that ballot questions
are an interesting way to define candidates.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Are there one or two of those ballad questions that
you have strong feelings about?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Yeah? So, I mean I'm going to kind of echo
what Kelly said when she called just previously. Question one
really is the most important. In my mind, I think
they're all important, but question one. I'm a big yes
on auditing the legislature. I have a feeling that's going
to pass overwhelmingly because I think the people of Massachusetts
really want to see some more transparency on Beacon Hill.
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It's been such a closed door kind of deal for
so long. I think people are getting tired of that.
We need more transparency. You know, the legislature has exemptions
from open meeting laws. Public record laws. You know, it
needs to be done, and I think the people of
Massachusetts are going to pass that overwhelmingly.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well, that's going to make you a big favorite with
the legislative leadership if you're fortunate though to be elected.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Well, it's okay. I don't need to answer the Senate President.
I need to answer to my constituents. So yeah, that's
that's a big thing for me. And I'll tell you
here on the Cape, we have a couple of additional
questions too. There's a county question, Question six, and then
Question seven, which is even more specific to the outer Cape.
It's only in the fourth Barnstable District. It is a
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yes or no to direct the state representative to support
offshore wind projects. So that's a big issue down here
on the Cape, and I don't think a lot of
the rest of the state realizes how big it is, but.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That I would assume that probably is not one that's
going to pass. If it's just a Cape vote. I
think most most people of the Cape are very skeptical
of these off sure wind farms, particularly when some of
the turbines have been flying through the air.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Absolutely, yes, I'm hoping that one's going to not.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I guess not the not the turbnes. What is it
the blades of the blades. Yeah, okay, someone will call
and correct me and say, oh, your knuckle ahead, it's
not it's the blades.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I want to get it correct. So, yes, who's pushing
Who's who's pushing that idea?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
So that was a guy who lives off Cape. I
guess actually who initiated the petition? You know, anyone can
get a ballot question on the ballot with a couple
hundred signatures like that. It's just a citizens petition type question.
It's not legally binding. But I think they're trying to
say that their support on the Cape for offshore wind
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when really there isn't trying to get a yes vote.
There sneaking it in. But I'm encouraging people, if you
have any listeners in the outer Cape, vote no one
question seven.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
All right, okay, well we will take that into consideration.
You're running against an incumbent state senator.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
Correct, that's correct. Even it's fourth term.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Okay, and you'd like to end it at four terms.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
So yeah, I think eight years is enough. You know,
I think the people on the Cape Islands have had enough.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Too.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Okay, well, best of luck you certainly. If you're successful,
I'm sure we'll make an impact on Bacon Hill. And
if you're not, you have a business that you will
go back to. But I like the idea of someone
who can fix cars being up at the legislature.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You can fix some things up there as well. Chris.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Best best of luck and thanks. I know you've called
my program before as a listener as well, and so
tonight as a senate candidate. Cape in the Islands, Cape
Cod Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Best of luck.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Tomorrow, appreciate it day and have a good night.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
You're very welcome. Next time I have a problem with
my car, I'm coming. I'm going to find your shop.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
That's where you made call for that too.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, all right, Chris, I appreciate I really do appreciate
you taking the time tonight. I know it's been a
long campaign and I hope that your your dream of
getting to the legislature is fulfilled. Thank you so much,
Good luck, good night, good luck. We'll take a quick
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break for the news at the bottom of the hour.
Love to hear from you. You can talk about a
ballot question if you're not up to date on the
ballid questions. Well, you need to be by time you
go to vote tomorrow, because they're just as important, I
think as the election officials. And as a matter of fact,
your ballot questions probably will have more impact than even
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your voter in the presidential race.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
But once you.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Get I want to get everybody out there to vote
tomorrow because as I've heard a couple of people say, today,
if you don't vote, your can't complain. And however tomorrow
works out for you and your candidates. I hope your
candidates let's win. But if you don't, remember there's always
another election in a democracy, and that is something that
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I think we need to keep in mind.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Feel free, ballot questions or your favorite candidate, if you
want to tell me who you really should think be
in this office or that office. Feel free. And then
at ten o'clock we're going to focus more on national
obviously the big the big election, which.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Is the presidency. We'll start to focus on that a
little bit at ten o'clock.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Right after the ten o'clock news. My name's Dan Ray.
This is Nightside. Let's keep it friendly. Six one seven,
ten thirty six one seven n P.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Right back on Nightside, Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Let's take a little ride down the East coast and
check in with our good friend Ken in Florida.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Ken, welcome back. How are you tonight on Nightside?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yeah, I'm great. Speaker phone Okay, my phone doesn't really
work that well.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
No, that's fine. You sound fine. Thanks for letting us know,
but no, it's it sounds great. I hope that you
have survived both of the storms that hit Florida last month.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, Helene wasn't bad. Milton, Uh just caused some landscaping
damage and I did some uh you know, working my
job helping people that uh you know, filed claims and stuff.
So nothing like Ian. He was like a once in
a lifetime So thank you for asking.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Well.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I mean, I know that Helene was bad, and then
I know that they were suggesting that that the next storm,
Milton was going to be even worse. And I don't
think Milton was as bad as people expected.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
At least the storm surge down here, if you know
the area, because a lot of the barrier they they
get to overwash. But it was manageable. But Charlotte County,
which is north of here, in south of Tampa, they
got hit pretty hard and I was up there doing
some relief work. But I'm good. All is good, Rob briefly,
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and I know I think you're talking national politics a
little later, but I am in bed because an exception
for you.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You go right ahead, Ken, We'll make an exception for you.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Friend, better earlier because of the daylight savings. And I
have a busy work day tomorrow and I want to
watch stay up late and watch the election. So yeah,
I don't know much about the Massachusetts ballot questions. I
did vote in Florida early. It was outstanding. Florida has
done a one eighty since the when I lived in Massachusetts,
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since the Hanging Chad episodes.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Of two thousand right, No, I mean yeah, they have
turned it around. They will report, I'm sure, relatively quickly.
Tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Georgia different situation. Pennsylvania will be a different situation. It's
going to be interesting which states report quickly and definitively.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
I'll give you my report. So I am able to
go on the website where I live, Lee County, which
is Fort Myers, and on the Gulf, it's predominantly Republicans.
Sixty last time I checked, early sixty seven percent of
registered voters have already voted. There's a lot of independence.
They outnumbered Democrats, and obviously the Republicans far outnumber of
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the Democrats. And my gut feeling not just based on
all the endless polls, but listening to the pundits and experts,
and obviously I primarily watch Fox News, but I do
do a lot of reading. I think positive signs for
me as a Republican is that there are so many
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more registered Republicans in different states, and also more Republicans
have kind of bucked the end of voting on election
day and voted early, like myself, because asking whether.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Or not that is a good thing, or whether or
not a lot of those people would have voted, you know,
they would have voted on tomorrow if they hadn't voted early.
I was hoping that they would be a decisive election
result tomorrow night. Now I'm still.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
From what I from what I've read and heard is
that those are two different factors. Is there will still
be the Republicans that are staunch election day voters. So
it's a very good sign for Republicans that Trump is
in a Republican party has really made a concerted effort
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to tell people to get out and vote early. That
and Uh, I think there's a lot of still a
lot of underpolling. Uh. And I don't know who who
enters a poll. Dan, do you get a call? And
I've never gotten a call asking know who I'm going
to vote for?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And we've had we've had posters on and and I
believe that the posters are trying their best.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
There was that poll out of Iowa, which seems to
be a bit of an outlier.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And yet Spencer Spencer Kimball from here from Emerson College
released an Iowa poll which he has it at fifty
five forty five.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So it depends, you know, the Des Moines register has
been Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You know, I assume that they they all tried to
do their best, but they all have to live or.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Die on the accuracy of the polls. And it's an
inexact science, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Points and I have a lot of callers. A year ago,
I told you my dream team was Ron de Santez
and Tulsea Gabbard, and you Scott. He said she's a Democrat.
Now she's a Republican. Yeah, absolutely, she's Yes, she's she's
turned Republican and she's on those quote uh smart uh
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women that's around Unlike what stupid Mark Cubans said. He
doesn't surround himself with smart women. I can name a
dozen of them. But so my prediction tonight, and I
put it on my Facebook page. Trump will win. He's
going to win both the popular vote the electoral college.
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The Republicans will regain the Senate by a slim majority,
and they will advance the majority in the House. That's
what I'm predicting.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Well, that would be a sweep for the Republicans and
we'll have to see. Well, we'll continue to do this
next hour. We'll get into more more predictions. And want
to give me a number on what sort of electoral
votes you think your candidate will Garner get?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
At least seventy.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
It's crazy, you know, it could be. I've seen all scenarios.
It could be you know, one squeaker like Pennsylvania. Dan,
who the hell knows your prediction? Okay, I'll say Trump,
uh whatever, two eighty five electoral college.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Remember he won in twenty sixteen, he won with two
hundred and three hundred and six.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
So yeah, my feeling it's got to be more than
that because I think, uh, union workers, and there's so
many people that are coming out.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
There's a whole but there's a whole bunch of cross
Corge this time. This might be a very different I
don't know. You know, it's going to be fascinating to
watch tomorrow night. And by the way, I know you
you said you're going to watch, you can listen here
on night's side.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We'll have it. We'll have some great analysis for you
as well. I promise.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Okay, did you hear Joe Rogan endorse him? Just pray?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Well, I mean he did three hours with with Rogan
and I've never heard Rogan and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I guess he's got a big following, but I think.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
He was upset with with Harris's unwillingness to come to him.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
She come down to Austin, but he just it his
breaking news and uh so that's my prediction, Dan, and
uh well.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
We'll sell you. I'll put it down.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Thanks, Ken, keep touch and if I eat Crow, I
will eat Crow. But that's my prediction.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
My gut feeling all right, thank thanks so much. Kin,
We'll talk later. Okay, thanks again, be well night you too.
Take you a quick and we'll take a quick break here.
I got a couple of room roof you, I got Steve,
I got Janine, uh, and I got a couple of
open lines at six one seven thirty six one seven
one ten thirty. And we will pivot away from the
(27:41):
ballot questions. If you want to weigh in on a
ballot question, you are more than welcome. If you choose
not to, that's your choice.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
And then we will get exclusively towards the national election,
having you gonna maybe have a little bit of a
contest and let people predict the number of electoral votes.
You got to predict not only the winning candidate, but
also the number of electoral votes. Back on Nightside, right
after these messages.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Back to the phones, we go, gonna go to Janine
in Hyanas.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Hey, Janine, welcome back. How are you.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I'm great?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I'm doing fine? I misschief for the last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Everything okay, oh yeah, everything's great.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
I actually tried to call the other night about your questions,
but I couldn't get through. Everything was busy.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Sometimes things do get busy here at nightside. Jane, I'm
glad you got through to what's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (28:42):
What's in your mind?
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Okay, So first of all, I just want to say
I'm glad you had crystals on on because I'm voting
for him because you know, I live on the Cape
and I'm a Republican and I think I think he's great. Also,
you were talking about the you know, the Yeah, so
(29:09):
there's only one I'm kind of torn about, but I'm
kind of nervous about. Also, is uh, the legalization of
the psychedelics. Like I you know, we have people growing
weed and stuff. Yeah, that's all fine and good and stuff,
but this is kind of like a different level.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And that was the point that the opponents the opponents
made on that one.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
And yeah, it's like a different level of you know,
having good time or helping your mental health or whatever.
But if you have people growing it in their backyards,
you don't know how much they're taking. And then my
issue is what if they go out driving, you know,
in their vehicles. Yeah, so that's the issue I'm having
(29:59):
with that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I mean, their answer will be there are people. Their
ants would probably be there are people who drive drunk,
and there are people who drive stoned.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And you know why you want to have more people
on the road.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Again, we had a couple of guests who were military
veterans who felt that psychedelics had helped them deal with
PTSD type issues and that if they're administered under very
controlled circumstances. But it's the decision people have to make.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
We did.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
We had a debate. I think it was last Friday
night at nine o'clock. I should double check my time
on it, but just go to night Side and Demand
and you can listen to any of our hours. And
it was a really good debate between a professor from
Tufts Medical School, uh doctor Gami, who who represented very well,
and also a Navy veteran, a woman who had suit
(30:50):
she had benefited from it. So it's it's good. That's
gonna be I think a pretty close result. I think
that the the oughdity to legislate is going to pass
pretty easily, but I think that, yeah, about psychedelics, that's
going to be going to be a much closer result.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
In my opinion.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Oh yeah, I definitely voted yes for auditing the legislature.
So I think that like, like like Chris said, like
it's it, that's going to be like a landslide, you
know that one.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But well, you know, they can adjust that a little
bit the legislature, even though the ballot. The problem is
that the power ultimately exists with the legislature. I'm told
that they can then they can try to amend that
if even if it passes.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, of course, it never ends. It never ends, honestly.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Great to hear your voice call more often. Okay, well
we'll talk soon, all right.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
Yeah, working a lot, you know the po Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Right, I love you too. Neither snow nor sleep nor
dark of night, you know that one.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
Okay, yeah, you bet your biscuit, Doug.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I all right, let me go next to him, Steven Cambridge, Steve,
got you and one more ahead side.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right, Dan.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
It was interesting I think I heard that there was
an article in the New York Post that if people
did an Internet search for the Rogan Trump discussion, that
they couldn't find it. That it appeared as if the
(32:32):
social media companies were kind of burying it. Really yeah,
I was in the New York Post, and I think
it was if you did a YouTube search for Rogan
and Trump, you wouldn't it would be very difficult to
find interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I I that's I mean, at my understanding is he's
got fourteen million followers. I'm not a Joe Rogan listener. Uh,
and yeah, there's I guess they say there's some suggestion
here that it might have says, I guess. Five days ago,
(33:14):
according to Forbes, Rogan was saying that his latest podcast episode,
interviewing Donald Trump, faced technical difficulties early on. But now
Rogan is saying, according to the Forbes that.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
That his interview with Trump was somehow censured.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
Censored, well not completely, of course, but the the Internet
company's Facebook, YouTube, et cetera. Uh, you know they I
don't know I heard this, but it's it's suspicious. I
don't know a lot about Rogan, but I never seen
(33:52):
him or heard him. But from what I understand, Uh,
he's not the kind of person who would wors somebody.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Just for the heck of it.
Speaker 9 (34:05):
I mean, it sounds like he's a pretty tough questioner
and thinker and so forth. So for him to come
out in favor of Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I know, I gotta be really honest with you. I
know little of his background. I don't know if he
is Again, I wish I had the time to listen
to podcasts I got. I spend most of my time
trying to prep for my own show.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Well, and it shows, Dan, it shows that you prep
for your show. By the way, Dan, one race that
I'm really concerned about, and here in Massachusetts is John Deaton.
I mean, I think if every Republican, even those Republicans
who aren't who think that their vote doesn't count, I mean,
(34:53):
if you know, I'm sure it's a long shot, if
he could unseat Elizabeth Warren, that would be a tremendous victory,
not just for Republicanism. But you know, she is such
she is one of the problems, you know, And I
think there are problems on the right and problems on
the left with these people who if you don't agree
(35:14):
with them, they just hate you and want to assassinate
your character.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
And she's pretty.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
She doesn't strike me as well. She strikes me as
a very bitter, bitter person. For some reason, She's gonna
it's a tough hill for deep to climb. Look he
spent a lot of his own money. The Republican Party
needs to needs to start to elect people to the
legislature so they can develop a bench. They don't have
(35:43):
much much depth. It's like it's like a football team.
You can have six or seven great players, but you
need fifty people on that team to really be effective.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
Well, if there are any Republicans who are listening tonight
on your show who saying to themselves, well, there's no
point of me voting because my vote doesn't count. It
does count with Deaton because I think he has a chance.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
You have to vote.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
You have to vote if you If you don't vote,
then you can't complain. Uh that you have plenty of
opportunities of the mail in ballots, absentee, all of that
sort of stuff. And uh and tomorrow the weather is
going to be perfect. So there's no reason why people
don't get it.
Speaker 9 (36:25):
I assume you voted early, Dan.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yes, I did, Yes, I did, as did I.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
For the first time in my life.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, it was convenient. I decided to do it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Why not, I'm not gonna you know, it's I would
refer to see it all down on election day myself.
Speaker 9 (36:41):
Person I also but listen. I'll tell you one last thing, Dan,
I am not going to be listening to Bez tomorrow night.
I'm not going to be listening to anybody. I'm not
going to be listening to news at all. I'll just
wait and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Well, I wish you'd listen to Nic. We have some
good guest line up also.
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Well, now you're tempting me, but you know, the night
before the election, it's just too tense for me.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
All Right, I think Dan.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
All right, have a drink, Have a drink, good night,
good night. Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
When we get back, we're going to switch topics and
focus on the presidential election. And I've been ask you
to tell me who's gonna win and what will their
electoral vote total be. I will explain how we will
pick a winner, and I'll even tell you what the
prize is. And I think you're gonna be pleased. We'll
be back on Night's side right after the ten o'clock
(37:32):
news
It's Night Side with Dan ray I WBZ Constance video.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, tomorrow is election twenty twenty four. There's just.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
It is upon us. It is twenty four hours from now.
The voting will in most parts of the country be concluded,
certainly in the East Coast and in the Central time zone,
there's still polls will still be open twenty four hours
from now in the Mountain time zone, and of course
in Alaska, Hawaii and in the Pacific time zone. But
(00:34):
tonight I thought we would take the balance of the
program to talk about political races near and far and
also issues.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
And I want to start off with.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
The ballot questions here in Massachusetts, and some of you
who are running for office may have strong thoughts on
any of these particular ballot positions, so you were more
than welcome to join in if you involved in one
of the ballot issues. I know that the state auditor,
Diana Desauglia, very much wants to audit the state legislature,
(01:10):
and that's going to be one that supposedly has a
really good chance of passing. One that apparently is going
to be very sharply contested is question two, dealing with
the elimination of MCAST as a high school graduation requirement.
It will not eliminate MCAST testing at the various grades
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the third grade and the fifth grade and the eighth grade,
but it will would, if passed, eliminate the high school
requirement for graduation that they pass in the tenth grade,
the MCAST requirements both in math and English. Then, of
course there is the question of unionizing the transportation network drivers,
(01:52):
which means uber and lyft, and whether that will be
permitted in Massachusetts. My sense is that that one is
probably one that is going to pass MUSTER. Then one
that we've focused and we'll focused on all of these here.
By the way, recently the legalization and regulation of certain
natural psychedelic substances. That is another issue that you want
(02:15):
to think about before you go into the polls tomorrow.
So you can get a little overwhelmed with the five
ballot questions and the last ballot question that and when
you read the you can gloss over minimum wage for
tipped workers. This is a push that's coming from an
out of state group, and a lot of the restaurants
(02:37):
and a lot of the waiters and waitresses in Massachusetts
have spoken out against this. It gets a little complicated,
but I just would like to open up the phone lines,
give everyone an opportunity. Who's out there tonight, whether you
are a candidate or you support a candidate. I'd like
to focus in the nine o'clock hour on Massachusetts. Stay
(03:01):
a little local here and and certainly the ballot questions
are are are are pertinent to Massachusetts. When we get
to ten o'clock, maybe we'll talk more about the presidential race.
But let's let's just open up phone line six one
seven two thirty UH six one seven nine three one
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ten thirty. We're joined now by a Republican Senate candidate,
State Senate candidate Kelly Duner, who was actually a guest
of ours a few weeks ago on the UH she
actually filed a Freedom of Infmation Act on the number
of people who are a number of EBT cards that
are about in Massachusetts. So we welcome back Kelly Douna.
(03:44):
Thanks for calling in. We didn't pre schedule this, but
nice to nice to know that you're on the line
currently a city councilor in Taunton, Massachusetts, Council of Duna.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
How are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Hello, Dan, I'm doing great, How are you we're doing great.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
We did invite your your opponent to join us, not tonight,
but after you had appeared with us earlier this month.
Mister Pachico, not the Senate candidate, not the senator who's
whose seat you're vying for. He Mark Pachico was retiring.
(04:23):
How what what's your position on some of these ballot
questions that will help define you? I think as a
as a candidate, have you taken pretty strong positions on
any of these ballot questions?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
I have the one in five are or two that
I've taken very very strong positions on. For number one,
I couldn't have signed that petition quick enough to audit
the legislature. I think we all know there is zero
accountability up on Beacon Hill and absolutely no transparency when
it comes to anything that they're doing in any form
(04:56):
of operation. So again I couldn't have signed that petition
and fast enough. I am thrilled that that is on
the ballot. I do think Massachusetts is going to make
the decision to you know, put it forth and move
it forward, and I'm extremely excited for that because again,
you know, there is no accountability, there's no transparency, and
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there needs to be some I would argue that we
probably have one of the least transparent legislatures in the
United States of America. So I'm hoping this can help
alleviate that that challenge or at least light on that question.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Question one is being sponsored by a former state senator
who went on to be is now the state auditor
here in Massachusetts, Diana Desauglia, who happens to be a Democrat.
You're a Republican, so you will you will be in
uh in concert with a statewide officeholder who's a Democrat,
(05:54):
which is good that Republicans and Democrats might be able
to work together on some things.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Yeah, and you know, this is one of those things
that you know, I don't see it as a party
politic issue, but this affects everybody in the Commonwealth of
Massachusetts and doing what's in the best interests of everybody,
and I think auditing the legislature is absolutely in the
best interest of the taxpayers and the residents here in
the commonwealth. So looking forward to supporting that.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, it may not be party issue, but the fact
of the matter is that the legislature, both in the
House and the Senate. I mean, there are only four
Republican state senators now out of a group of forty,
so only ten percent of the State Senate is Republican.
And I think it's about twenty five or so members
of the one hundred and sixty member House.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So it's the House leadership.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Which is overwhelm, which is obviously Democratic leadership, which is
resisting the Democratic state auditor, which is going to make
for a really interesting story.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
What was the other ballot question that you had an
interest in?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Number five? You know, I've gone around to as many
restaurants as I possibly could, just to talk to the
bartenders and talk to the waitresses. And even while I'm
out knocking on doors, I end up obviously on doorsteps
of waitresses. And I initially learned this was pushed by
an out of state organization from somebody on their doorstep
who was a waitress. So I'm looking forward to supporting
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them in this, and you know, I do not believe
in what they're trying to push forward for number five,
So I'm looking.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
For you too. You would be a yes on one
and a no on five. My understanding is that the
group that is pushing it's a California group and they
have pushed it in several states, including Massachusetts. But what
I understand is there are a lot of waitresses, waiters
and waitresses who say, no, we're doing just find the
(07:48):
way it is right right, And.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It seems like they didn't give, you know, the people
who are affected most by this a seat at the table.
And I even have talked, I've spoken with the business
owners themselves, actually small and local business owners, and they're
also not in support. So whoever's pushing this forward didn't
give the stakeholders, you know, a seat at the table.
And for me, that's an automatic no. When you're not
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giving those people who are affecting most, say it, a
voice in the matter. You know, I'm an automatic NOE
for me on that one. So those are two that
I'm definitely very passionate about. One in five.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Yeah, Well, it's interesting because we tried to get a
spokesperson locally for what's you know, on the other side
of the issue, just in the in the in the
spirit of fairness, and we couldn't even find anyone locally
who represented this ballot position.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
So I believe that I agree with both of you.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
If I was in the district, I would be very
pleased that you would be voting on both of those.
So anyway, look, best of luck tomorrow. We didn't have
a chance to your your My producer reached out to
your opponent, so, uh, your your opponent has not had
a chance to be on night side. But you're running
(09:13):
a very aggressive race. You were able to get a
lot of information about the EBT cards. And I hope
that as uh as a state senator, you'll be able
to pursue some of those issues. And and and I
wish I wish your best of luck. I wish everyone
best of luck tomorrow, but I wish you one to
one here, best of luck Kelly doing it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
You're a district ye down.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I know it's in the southeast corner. What are some
of the areas in the district.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
It's the third Bristol, Third Bristol and Plymouth district, consisting
of taw In, Berkeley, Rainham, Carver, Maryon, Wareham, Dieton, Rehoboth.
What else do we have him here?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
I'm sure you have some.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Money in there. Seaconges, I said, rahob and wear him
Marian yep. I think that's everywhere.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
You got to get them all in. That's for sure well,
Kelly doing it.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Thanks thanks again, and we'll have to see how it
works out. And will you if you're elected this to
the state Senate, will you continue as a city councilor
or are you going to give up that post?
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I would not continue as a city councilor. For me,
if I can't give one hundred percent to something, you know,
I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
It would be.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Doing the residence of disservice, So I will not remain
on the city council. I'm also not a huge fan
of holding you know, a statewide office and a local office.
I think there may be some conflicts with that.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yep, no, I had to ask you the question, but
I think that's the right answer. At least that's the
that's what rings true to me. Thanks so much, Kelly,
Best elect tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Thanks Dan bybye.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Very welcome and take a little.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Quick break here, and if you'd like to join us,
you don't have to be a candidate. I want to
hear from those of you who feel strongly about some
of the ballot issues. This is what but I think
a lot of people want to know about and maybe
you've looked at some of these issues more carefully than others.
(11:09):
We've talked about virtually well, we've talked about all of
them to one degree or another. So please feel free
to join the conversation if there's one that you think
is particularly important. I mean, I think they're all important,
certainly the psychedelic the question four is important, and people
on both sides. We had a great conversation with us
(11:30):
on Friday night here between different perspectives on it. We
attempted to get people on both sides of the elimination
of the medcap mcast graduation requirement. The Teachers' Union was
not particularly the unions who I think are in favor
(11:50):
of getting rid of it. That's a no vote on
question number two in my opinion. So feel free. You
can make whatever pitch you want. Candidate, and you would
like to mention your candidacy, You're welcome to do that
as well, Republicans, Democrats, and our independents, whatever whatever is.
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We will cut off the local conversation at ten o'clock,
So if you want to get in, now's the time.
Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty, six one seven, nine,
three thirty Coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
We go to Suzanne in Newton. Suzanne, welcome back.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
How are you good evening?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Dan?
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Thank you for taking by call. I have a ride
to the polls to borrow devote in person. And I
know that's the valid questions. I still say, waiters thought
and you should share tips. I don't think diversity in
our schools requires the elimination of the MS.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I don't think diversity has anything to do with MCST.
I think that.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
Years ago to get into college. And but anyway, and
I don't think high school graduate should delive it should
administer the magic mushrooms. And that's that's all. Thank you
for taking Okay, all right.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
We got the list. Thanks as the appreciated. Let me
go to Chris Is next up. Chris is a Massachusetts
state Senate candidate on the Cape.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I have seen your signs, Chris los On. How are you, sir?
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Doing very well?
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Dan?
Speaker 7 (13:39):
How are you good?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
You have an interesting background. You are not a politician.
If I'm not mistaken you you actually run an auto
repair business.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
Correct, that is correct. I'm an auto mechanic.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
I was there today. I'm there in between campaigning.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Uh so.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Why do you want to end up on Beacon Hill?
I guess I would ask.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
Well, well, you know, I'm used to going to work
and fixing things to get paid. So I want to
bring that to Beacon Hill fix some things, you know,
unlike our current legislators. You know, I've got four kids
that i'm raising here. I one them they have a
good future.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Of the ballot questions, again, I think that ballot questions
are an interesting way to define candidates.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Are there one or two of those ballad questions that
you have strong feelings about?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Yeah? So, I mean I'm going to kind of echo
what Kelly said when she called just previously. Question one
really is the most important. In my mind, I think
they're all important, but question one. I'm a big yes
on auditing the legislature. I have a feeling that's going
to pass overwhelmingly because I think the people of Massachusetts
really want to see some more transparency on Beacon Hill.
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It's been such a closed door kind of deal for
so long. I think people are getting tired of that.
We need more transparency. You know, the legislature has exemptions
from open meeting laws. Public record laws. You know, it
needs to be done, and I think the people of
Massachusetts are going to pass that overwhelmingly.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Well, that's going to make you a big favorite with
the legislative leadership if you're fortunate though to be elected.
Speaker 7 (15:17):
Well, it's okay. I don't need to answer the Senate President.
I need to answer to my constituents. So yeah, that's
that's a big thing for me. And I'll tell you
here on the Cape, we have a couple of additional
questions too. There's a county question, Question six, and then
Question seven, which is even more specific to the outer Cape.
It's only in the fourth Barnstable District. It is a
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yes or no to direct the state representative to support
offshore wind projects. So that's a big issue down here
on the Cape, and I don't think a lot of
the rest of the state realizes how big it is, but.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That I would assume that probably is not one that's
going to pass. If it's just a Cape vote. I
think most most people of the Cape are very skeptical
of these off sure wind farms, particularly when some of
the turbines have been flying through the air.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
Absolutely, yes, I'm hoping that one's going to not.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I guess not the not the turbnes. What is it
the blades of the blades. Yeah, okay, someone will call
and correct me and say, oh, your knuckle ahead, it's
not it's the blades.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I want to get it correct. So, yes, who's pushing
Who's who's pushing that idea?
Speaker 7 (16:26):
So that was a guy who lives off Cape. I
guess actually who initiated the petition? You know, anyone can
get a ballot question on the ballot with a couple
hundred signatures like that. It's just a citizens petition type question.
It's not legally binding. But I think they're trying to
say that their support on the Cape for offshore wind
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when really there isn't trying to get a yes vote.
There sneaking it in. But I'm encouraging people, if you
have any listeners in the outer Cape, vote no one
question seven.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
All right, okay, well we will take that into consideration.
You're running against an incumbent state senator.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
Correct, that's correct. Even it's fourth term.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Okay, and you'd like to end it at four terms.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
So yeah, I think eight years is enough. You know,
I think the people on the Cape Islands have had enough.
Speaker 6 (17:18):
Too.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Okay, well, best of luck you certainly. If you're successful,
I'm sure we'll make an impact on Bacon Hill. And
if you're not, you have a business that you will
go back to. But I like the idea of someone
who can fix cars being up at the legislature.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You can fix some things up there as well. Chris.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Best best of luck and thanks. I know you've called
my program before as a listener as well, and so
tonight as a senate candidate. Cape in the Islands, Cape
Cod Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Best of luck.
Speaker 7 (17:52):
Tomorrow, appreciate it day and have a good night.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
You're very welcome. Next time I have a problem with
my car, I'm coming. I'm going to find your shop.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
That's where you made call for that too.
Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yeah, all right, Chris, I appreciate I really do appreciate
you taking the time tonight. I know it's been a
long campaign and I hope that your your dream of
getting to the legislature is fulfilled. Thank you so much,
Good luck, good night, good luck. We'll take a quick
(18:22):
break for the news at the bottom of the hour.
Love to hear from you. You can talk about a
ballot question if you're not up to date on the
ballid questions. Well, you need to be by time you
go to vote tomorrow, because they're just as important, I
think as the election officials. And as a matter of fact,
your ballot questions probably will have more impact than even
(18:43):
your voter in the presidential race.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
But once you.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Get I want to get everybody out there to vote
tomorrow because as I've heard a couple of people say, today,
if you don't vote, your can't complain. And however tomorrow
works out for you and your candidates. I hope your
candidates let's win. But if you don't, remember there's always
another election in a democracy, and that is something that
(19:08):
I think we need to keep in mind.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Feel free, ballot questions or your favorite candidate, if you
want to tell me who you really should think be
in this office or that office. Feel free. And then
at ten o'clock we're going to focus more on national
obviously the big the big election, which.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Is the presidency. We'll start to focus on that a
little bit at ten o'clock.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Right after the ten o'clock news. My name's Dan Ray.
This is Nightside. Let's keep it friendly. Six one seven,
ten thirty six one seven n P.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Right back on Nightside, Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
Let's take a little ride down the East coast and
check in with our good friend Ken in Florida.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Ken, welcome back. How are you tonight on Nightside?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yeah, I'm great. Speaker phone Okay, my phone doesn't really
work that well.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
No, that's fine. You sound fine. Thanks for letting us know,
but no, it's it sounds great. I hope that you
have survived both of the storms that hit Florida last month.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Yeah, Helene wasn't bad. Milton, Uh just caused some landscaping
damage and I did some uh you know, working my
job helping people that uh you know, filed claims and stuff.
So nothing like Ian. He was like a once in
a lifetime So thank you for asking.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Well.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I mean, I know that Helene was bad, and then
I know that they were suggesting that that the next storm,
Milton was going to be even worse. And I don't
think Milton was as bad as people expected.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
At least the storm surge down here, if you know
the area, because a lot of the barrier they they
get to overwash. But it was manageable. But Charlotte County,
which is north of here, in south of Tampa, they
got hit pretty hard and I was up there doing
some relief work. But I'm good. All is good, Rob briefly,
(21:06):
and I know I think you're talking national politics a
little later, but I am in bed because an exception
for you.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
You go right ahead, Ken, We'll make an exception for you.
Speaker 5 (21:17):
Friend, better earlier because of the daylight savings. And I
have a busy work day tomorrow and I want to
watch stay up late and watch the election. So yeah,
I don't know much about the Massachusetts ballot questions. I
did vote in Florida early. It was outstanding. Florida has
done a one eighty since the when I lived in Massachusetts,
(21:40):
since the Hanging Chad episodes.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
Of two thousand right, No, I mean yeah, they have
turned it around. They will report, I'm sure, relatively quickly.
Tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Georgia different situation. Pennsylvania will be a different situation. It's
going to be interesting which states report quickly and definitively.
Speaker 5 (22:04):
I'll give you my report. So I am able to
go on the website where I live, Lee County, which
is Fort Myers, and on the Gulf, it's predominantly Republicans.
Sixty last time I checked, early sixty seven percent of
registered voters have already voted. There's a lot of independence.
They outnumbered Democrats, and obviously the Republicans far outnumber of
(22:28):
the Democrats. And my gut feeling not just based on
all the endless polls, but listening to the pundits and experts,
and obviously I primarily watch Fox News, but I do
do a lot of reading. I think positive signs for
me as a Republican is that there are so many
(22:50):
more registered Republicans in different states, and also more Republicans
have kind of bucked the end of voting on election
day and voted early, like myself, because asking whether.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Or not that is a good thing, or whether or
not a lot of those people would have voted, you know,
they would have voted on tomorrow if they hadn't voted early.
I was hoping that they would be a decisive election
result tomorrow night. Now I'm still.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
From what I from what I've read and heard is
that those are two different factors. Is there will still
be the Republicans that are staunch election day voters. So
it's a very good sign for Republicans that Trump is
in a Republican party has really made a concerted effort
(23:44):
to tell people to get out and vote early. That
and Uh, I think there's a lot of still a
lot of underpolling. Uh. And I don't know who who
enters a poll. Dan, do you get a call? And
I've never gotten a call asking know who I'm going
to vote for?
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And we've had we've had posters on and and I
believe that the posters are trying their best.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's funny.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
There was that poll out of Iowa, which seems to
be a bit of an outlier.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And yet Spencer Spencer Kimball from here from Emerson College
released an Iowa poll which he has it at fifty
five forty five.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
So it depends, you know, the Des Moines register has
been Uh.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You know, I assume that they they all tried to
do their best, but they all have to live or.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Die on the accuracy of the polls. And it's an
inexact science, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (24:38):
Points and I have a lot of callers. A year ago,
I told you my dream team was Ron de Santez
and Tulsea Gabbard, and you Scott. He said she's a Democrat.
Now she's a Republican. Yeah, absolutely, she's Yes, she's she's
turned Republican and she's on those quote uh smart uh
(24:58):
women that's around Unlike what stupid Mark Cubans said. He
doesn't surround himself with smart women. I can name a
dozen of them. But so my prediction tonight, and I
put it on my Facebook page. Trump will win. He's
going to win both the popular vote the electoral college.
(25:20):
The Republicans will regain the Senate by a slim majority,
and they will advance the majority in the House. That's
what I'm predicting.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Well, that would be a sweep for the Republicans and
we'll have to see. Well, we'll continue to do this
next hour. We'll get into more more predictions. And want
to give me a number on what sort of electoral
votes you think your candidate will Garner get?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
At least seventy.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
It's crazy, you know, it could be. I've seen all scenarios.
It could be you know, one squeaker like Pennsylvania. Dan,
who the hell knows your prediction? Okay, I'll say Trump,
uh whatever, two eighty five electoral college.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Remember he won in twenty sixteen, he won with two
hundred and three hundred and six.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
So yeah, my feeling it's got to be more than
that because I think, uh, union workers, and there's so
many people that are coming out.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
There's a whole but there's a whole bunch of cross
Corge this time. This might be a very different I
don't know. You know, it's going to be fascinating to
watch tomorrow night. And by the way, I know you
you said you're going to watch, you can listen here
on night's side.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
We'll have it. We'll have some great analysis for you
as well. I promise.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
Okay, did you hear Joe Rogan endorse him? Just pray?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Well, I mean he did three hours with with Rogan
and I've never heard Rogan and I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I guess he's got a big following, but I think.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
He was upset with with Harris's unwillingness to come to him.
Speaker 5 (27:00):
She come down to Austin, but he just it his
breaking news and uh so that's my prediction, Dan, and
uh well.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
We'll sell you. I'll put it down.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Thanks, Ken, keep touch and if I eat Crow, I
will eat Crow. But that's my prediction.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
My gut feeling all right, thank thanks so much. Kin,
We'll talk later. Okay, thanks again, be well night you too.
Take you a quick and we'll take a quick break here.
I got a couple of room roof you, I got Steve,
I got Janine, uh, and I got a couple of
open lines at six one seven thirty six one seven
one ten thirty. And we will pivot away from the
(27:41):
ballot questions. If you want to weigh in on a
ballot question, you are more than welcome. If you choose
not to, that's your choice.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
And then we will get exclusively towards the national election,
having you gonna maybe have a little bit of a
contest and let people predict the number of electoral votes.
You got to predict not only the winning candidate, but
also the number of electoral votes. Back on Nightside, right
after these messages.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nights Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Back to the phones, we go, gonna go to Janine
in Hyanas.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
Hey, Janine, welcome back. How are you.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
I'm great?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I'm doing fine? I misschief for the last few weeks.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Everything okay, oh yeah, everything's great.
Speaker 8 (28:30):
I actually tried to call the other night about your questions,
but I couldn't get through. Everything was busy.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Sometimes things do get busy here at nightside. Jane, I'm
glad you got through to what's on your mind?
Speaker 7 (28:42):
What's in your mind?
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Okay, So first of all, I just want to say
I'm glad you had crystals on on because I'm voting
for him because you know, I live on the Cape
and I'm a Republican and I think I think he's great. Also,
you were talking about the you know, the Yeah, so
(29:09):
there's only one I'm kind of torn about, but I'm
kind of nervous about. Also, is uh, the legalization of
the psychedelics. Like I you know, we have people growing
weed and stuff. Yeah, that's all fine and good and stuff,
but this is kind of like a different level.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
And that was the point that the opponents the opponents
made on that one.
Speaker 8 (29:35):
And yeah, it's like a different level of you know,
having good time or helping your mental health or whatever.
But if you have people growing it in their backyards,
you don't know how much they're taking. And then my
issue is what if they go out driving, you know,
in their vehicles. Yeah, so that's the issue I'm having
(29:59):
with that.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
I mean, their answer will be there are people. Their
ants would probably be there are people who drive drunk,
and there are people who drive stoned.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
And you know why you want to have more people
on the road.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
Again, we had a couple of guests who were military
veterans who felt that psychedelics had helped them deal with
PTSD type issues and that if they're administered under very
controlled circumstances. But it's the decision people have to make.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
We did.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
We had a debate. I think it was last Friday
night at nine o'clock. I should double check my time
on it, but just go to night Side and Demand
and you can listen to any of our hours. And
it was a really good debate between a professor from
Tufts Medical School, uh doctor Gami, who who represented very well,
and also a Navy veteran, a woman who had suit
(30:50):
she had benefited from it. So it's it's good. That's
gonna be I think a pretty close result. I think
that the the oughdity to legislate is going to pass
pretty easily, but I think that, yeah, about psychedelics, that's
going to be going to be a much closer result.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
In my opinion.
Speaker 8 (31:08):
Oh yeah, I definitely voted yes for auditing the legislature.
So I think that like, like like Chris said, like
it's it, that's going to be like a landslide, you
know that one.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But well, you know, they can adjust that a little
bit the legislature, even though the ballot. The problem is
that the power ultimately exists with the legislature. I'm told
that they can then they can try to amend that
if even if it passes.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah, of course, it never ends. It never ends, honestly.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Great to hear your voice call more often. Okay, well
we'll talk soon, all right.
Speaker 8 (31:46):
Yeah, working a lot, you know the po Okay.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Right, I love you too. Neither snow nor sleep nor
dark of night, you know that one.
Speaker 8 (31:58):
Okay, yeah, you bet your biscuit, Doug.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
I all right, let me go next to him, Steven Cambridge, Steve,
got you and one more ahead side.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Right, Dan.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
It was interesting I think I heard that there was
an article in the New York Post that if people
did an Internet search for the Rogan Trump discussion, that
they couldn't find it. That it appeared as if the
(32:32):
social media companies were kind of burying it. Really yeah,
I was in the New York Post, and I think
it was if you did a YouTube search for Rogan
and Trump, you wouldn't it would be very difficult to
find interesting.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I I that's I mean, at my understanding is he's
got fourteen million followers. I'm not a Joe Rogan listener. Uh,
and yeah, there's I guess they say there's some suggestion
here that it might have says, I guess. Five days ago,
(33:14):
according to Forbes, Rogan was saying that his latest podcast episode,
interviewing Donald Trump, faced technical difficulties early on. But now
Rogan is saying, according to the Forbes that.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
That his interview with Trump was somehow censured.
Speaker 9 (33:31):
Censored, well not completely, of course, but the the Internet
company's Facebook, YouTube, et cetera. Uh, you know they I
don't know I heard this, but it's it's suspicious. I
don't know a lot about Rogan, but I never seen
(33:52):
him or heard him. But from what I understand, Uh,
he's not the kind of person who would wors somebody.
Speaker 5 (34:05):
Just for the heck of it.
Speaker 9 (34:05):
I mean, it sounds like he's a pretty tough questioner
and thinker and so forth. So for him to come
out in favor of Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
I know, I gotta be really honest with you. I
know little of his background. I don't know if he
is Again, I wish I had the time to listen
to podcasts I got. I spend most of my time
trying to prep for my own show.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
Well, and it shows, Dan, it shows that you prep
for your show. By the way, Dan, one race that
I'm really concerned about, and here in Massachusetts is John Deaton.
I mean, I think if every Republican, even those Republicans
who aren't who think that their vote doesn't count, I mean,
(34:53):
if you know, I'm sure it's a long shot, if
he could unseat Elizabeth Warren, that would be a tremendous victory,
not just for Republicanism. But you know, she is such
she is one of the problems, you know, And I
think there are problems on the right and problems on
the left with these people who if you don't agree
(35:14):
with them, they just hate you and want to assassinate
your character.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
And she's pretty.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
She doesn't strike me as well. She strikes me as
a very bitter, bitter person. For some reason, She's gonna
it's a tough hill for deep to climb. Look he
spent a lot of his own money. The Republican Party
needs to needs to start to elect people to the
legislature so they can develop a bench. They don't have
(35:43):
much much depth. It's like it's like a football team.
You can have six or seven great players, but you
need fifty people on that team to really be effective.
Speaker 9 (35:54):
Well, if there are any Republicans who are listening tonight
on your show who saying to themselves, well, there's no
point of me voting because my vote doesn't count. It
does count with Deaton because I think he has a chance.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
You have to vote.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
You have to vote if you If you don't vote,
then you can't complain. Uh that you have plenty of
opportunities of the mail in ballots, absentee, all of that
sort of stuff. And uh and tomorrow the weather is
going to be perfect. So there's no reason why people
don't get it.
Speaker 9 (36:25):
I assume you voted early, Dan.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yes, I did, Yes, I did, as did I.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
For the first time in my life.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Yeah, it was convenient. I decided to do it.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Why not, I'm not gonna you know, it's I would
refer to see it all down on election day myself.
Speaker 9 (36:41):
Person I also but listen. I'll tell you one last thing, Dan,
I am not going to be listening to Bez tomorrow night.
I'm not going to be listening to anybody. I'm not
going to be listening to news at all. I'll just
wait and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Well, I wish you'd listen to Nic. We have some
good guest line up also.
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Well, now you're tempting me, but you know, the night
before the election, it's just too tense for me.
Speaker 7 (37:03):
All Right, I think Dan.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
All right, have a drink, Have a drink, good night,
good night. Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
When we get back, we're going to switch topics and
focus on the presidential election. And I've been ask you
to tell me who's gonna win and what will their
electoral vote total be. I will explain how we will
pick a winner, and I'll even tell you what the
prize is. And I think you're gonna be pleased. We'll
be back on Night's side right after the ten o'clock
(37:32):
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