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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZY, Boston's
new radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thank you very much, Nicall. We start off our journey
towards midnight. I don't get you to midnight and get
to about eleven fifty eight, but so I'll get you
really close to midnight. If you'll stick with us for
the next four hours, we have an interesting show coming up.
We have four interesting guests hearing here in the first
hour at the eight o'clock hour, no phone calls this hour.
Then at nine o'clock I going to be talking with
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Boston attorney Phil Tracy about that State Supreme Court case
that was heard yesterday regarding Karen Reid and whether or
not there needs to be a change in what happened
at the end of that case. I think most people
are aware of that, but we will spell it out
for you after nine o'clock, and then at ten o'clock
tonight we will play for you some of the comments
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made by President Biden today. He has invited President to
elect former President Trump to the White House for a
transition meeting of sorts, traditional meeting that Donald Trump did
not offer to Joe Biden four years ago because of
the craziness that was going on at that point. But
President Biden, I thought, made a very generous and also
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a very thorough speech. I guess you call it really
more of remarks. It really wasn't a speech. It was
remarks about the need for a smooth transition. We'll get
to all of that as the evening goes on, so
do stay with us. We have watched to talk about.
Rob Brooks is back in the control room tonight. You
don't have to call Rob until after nine o'clock, so
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don't worry about that. And I'm going to start off
with a conversation with Chris Price. He's a Boston Globe
sports reporter, and I think that he is often on
the Patriots beat, and wrote a piece recently about the
struggle of Patriots wide receivers. Although they have, my opinion,
a couple of pretty good quarterbacks, both Drake May and
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the Jacoby Brissett. I'd love to know what Chris thinks.
He probably has a much more up close and personal
view than I do. Chris Price, Welcome to Nightside. How
are you.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I'm doing well, Dan, how are you? It's my pleasure
to join you tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, right back at you, I mean, I go back
to the days of when Gino Cappelletti was a receiver.
Ardie Graham, I go back a long way, and of
course they've had some great receivers along the way. Russ
Francis you think of, And they've got a pretty good
little receiving core right now, and they've got a quarterback
in May who's throwing the ball a lot more than
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Jacoby Pressent. Did I read your piece and you did
a really nice analysis of all these receivers. What do
you think of them as a group, and then we
can break them down individually if you like.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Well, I think that we can start with the fact
that they're very young. They're you know, the the great
majority of them, do Mario Douglas, Keishawn Booty, Taekwon Thornton,
Jalen polk On Baker. They're all in there first or
most of them in their first or second year in
the league, and so you're gonna have some growing pains
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with the group, you know, like that. I'm sorry Techwon
Thornton isn't his third year in the league. I apologize
for that, but it's a young group and they are
kind of growing together. Kendrick Bourne is probably the oldest
of that group. He is a guy who's been around
the league a few years and I think does a
very good job when it comes to offering some leadership.
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But yeah, it's been a rough start for them for
a few reasons. Not the least the wish. Like I
said before, they're young. But there's also when you touched
on the quarterback situation. I'm glad you did, Dan, because
it calls to mind the story from twenty sixteen where
the Patriots that summer we're trying to prepare for the season.
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If you remember twenty sixteen, that's the year where Tom
Brady was suspended for four games right off the bat,
and they had Jimmy Garoppolo, and so they were using
two different quarterbacks that summer an awful lot. And I
remember asking Markel's be it was the tight end on
that team. I said, what's it like trying to develop
relationship chemistry, whatever you want to call it with two
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different quarterbacks at the same time. And he looked at
me and he kind of waited a beat and said, well,
you know, I've dated two women at the same time before,
so it's you know, it's a little bit like that.
There were you know, with a little bit more PG.
Thirteen and maybe are rated than that, but I'll kind
of clean it up for the radio. So I think
that some of their issues can kind of be traced
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back to the fact that there was some uncertain the
quarterback position. Over the course this summer, Jakobybersett was the
number one. He's since been supplanted by the youngster in
Drake May. So it can be difficult to go from
one quarterback to another. There's a lot of variables there.
Quarterbacks like certain things. You know, they like their receivers
to be in certain places, and you know, running certain roots,
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and so I think not just the transition from college
to the pros, but being able to work with two
different quarters backs at the same time, I think there
are some challenges there. That being said, moving forward, I'm
optimistic about this group in the passing game because I
think Breake May has showed an awful lot over the
course of.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I haven't seen. I haven't seen. I went to one
Patriots game earlier this year, but I haven't on TV
of course watch them all. I haven't seen a lot
of broken roots routes. I saw Aaron Rodgers was flabbergasted
frustrated by his receivers in the Jets game, particularly the
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one at Gillette, but I love to catch that. Douglas
made the one handed catch.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Great.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Great, Yeah, I mean those are those our fabulous places.
But I think the roots, the routes they are running
are pretty good. And look May's throwing the ball. He's
got a pass percentage completion rating of what seventy percent.
I mean, that's an extraordinary figure for anyone, particularly a
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quarterback that doesn't have the greatest offensive line in front
of him.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Yes, yes, there you go. And that's part of it too, Dan,
And I'm glad you bring that up. That an offensive line,
and you can remember the days of Johnahannah and Leon
Gray and Pete Brock and all the way up through
Matt Lte and Nate Solder. An offensive line to make
an average quarterback good and a good quarterback great. And
I think that's one of the issues that they've had
on the offense as a whole, and not just the
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passing game and the receivers. But they've had through nine games,
they've had eight different combinations up starting combinations up front,
and so you know as well as I do, that
it takes a while you know, we talked about chemistry
between the wide receivers and the quarterback. It takes a
while to be able to build chemistry and continuity and
consistency when you're doing so much shuffling along the offensive line.
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And so I think that they've kind of found a
combination that works for them right now, but you can
still I think they're going to continue to tinker with
this group moving forward because part of it they're young.
Part of it they're young. They're leaning on a couple
of young guys. They've had some injury too. With David Andrews,
who's been so consistent, so good for such a long time.
That was really Yeah, that was that was really tough
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for them, especially when you're working with the young centers,
working with a young quarterback and Drake may So they've
had some breakdowns, they've had some ineffective play, they've had
some some some injury issues, and honestly, part of it too,
dam Like we said before, the wide receivers, a lot
of his youth, and there's new faces, there's new offensive coordinator,
new offensive line coach, and so everyone even nine ten
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games in now, everyone is still kind of trying to
get to know one another a little bit because there's
been so little consistency, so little continuity all across the
border on the offensive side of the ball, and.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
At this point they're not going to make the playoffs.
You know, make your mistakes, learn from your mistakes, and
offensive line they have to almost intuitively know, Okay, if
that guy splits in, who's picking him up, who's helping
me out? You know with my I'm responsibility because I
got to be looking at this guy who's blitzing from
the left. Just a yeah. It's the sort of stuff
that as they as I think Rick Patino once said,
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John Hannah and Leon Gray aren't walking through that door
anytime soon.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Very Well said, very well, really, yeah, I really appreciate.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
And I'll be following you a little bit more closely
on the pages of the Boston Globe. You know, as
I tell everybody from the Globe, the sports page of
the Boston Globe, I never disagree with them on anything.
The editorial page kind of a different story, Chris, But
I love the sports page showing to see the whole
group of you.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, I'm lucky to be a part of that group.
I really am. It didn honor to be to be
in their company. So yeah, it is. It should be
a good rest of the year, and it should be
an interesting rest of the year because right now they're
they're in line to have the first overall pick in.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
So we'll say I'd rather finish last than about sixth
from last in the middle of the Thanks, thanks so much, Chris.
We'll have you again if you'd be so kind. Appreciate
it very much.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Have a great night. Take care all right.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
So we're going to go from football to a special
Olympics bowling. Going to be talking with Mark ericson of
the Special Olympics in New Hampshire, and a little bit
later on tonight we're going to talk about getting past
what happened this week with family and friends, you know
what I'm talking about. We're also going to talk about
the severe drought that now is affecting Massachusetts football in
the evening news and you see all sorts of grass
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fires everywhere. Back on Nightside, my name is Dan Ray.
Any night I start off with football, it's always fun.
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Speaker 1 (09:58):
Now back to Dan Line from the Window World Nightside
Studios on w b Z News Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
All right, we're going to talk about a big event
coming up this weekend, actually a series of events. Mark
Erickson of the New Hampshire Special Olympics joins us. We've
had Mark with us before, and this competition is all
about bowling, ten pin bowling, bubbera bowling, all sorts of
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bowling activity. I think the only thing I don't see
are duck pins. Mark, Welcome to NIGHTSI welcome back.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Good evening, Dan, thanks for having us.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah, let me tell you. I'll tell us about it.
First of all, how many people you have? Is it
five or six locations this this Saturday?
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Well, we're looking at seven locations on Saturday and one
location on Sunday. It's the State Bowling Competition, and it's
kind of the inverse of our regular state competitions for
our state Summer Games. Everybody comes from all over the
state and converges on the campus of u n H
and Durham for our State Winter Games. Everybody comes from
all over the state and converges in Waterville Valley. This
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time we go everywhere all over the state. We are
out this Saturday in Berlin, Clairemont, Exeter, Keene, Laconia, and
two venues in Manchester. And then on Sunday we are
in Nashua for bowling competition.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
So is there a competition on Saturday or do you
pick the best bowlers? How does this or does it?
Does it all? Explain to us how it works? How
is Saturday different from Sunday? Other than obviously six.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Lanes to one lane, every competition is specific to its
individual area. And to be completely honest about it, the
scheduling this year was simply a league conflict in Nashua
and we had to be bumped from Saturday to Sunday.
Most years we do everything on the Saturday, but again
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it's all specific to each geographical area. This particular year
Sunday we had to be bumped in national sports meeting.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
That's fair, okay. So overall, with all the locations on
Saturday and Sunday, how many Special Olympians will be participating?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
We are looking at more than six hundred Special Olympics
athletes competing this coming weekend. Last number I saw, I
think there was about six hundred and twenty athletes total
will be competing this weekend all over the state.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
The reason that I like bowling, it's a wonderful sport.
You do not have to have any great physical size.
You know, if you want to play basketball, it's always
better if you're seven feet tall for the most part,
or if you're going to be a football player, whatever.
But I mean, everybody can participate in bowling and a
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lot of it is just a lot of fun. So
I'm sure that this is an event and annual event
that the Special Olympians up in New Hampshire must really enjoy.
First of all, your indoors, you don't have to worry
about the weather, there's refreshments nearby. I mean, it's a
perfect it's a perfect way to spend a weekend day.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Plos, you mentioned it at the very top of the interview.
It is bowling. There is buffer bowling involved in some instances,
and there is adaptive bowling involved in some instances as well,
depending upon each individual athlete and their specific needs. I'll
tell you a quick story during the pandemic when we
were locked down all special Olympics programs all over the
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country New Hampshire, Massachusetts. Everybody was doing our very best
to stay connected to our athlete community by reaching out
to them online with various incentives, various games, and some
surveys as well. One of the surveys we did during
the pandemic was when it's time to come back, what
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is the first thing everyone wanted to do? And the
answer was bowling And we all kind of sat around
on a zoom call trying to figure it all out,
and then we realized it's not so much in that
particular instance, the competition, although that's important to all of
our athletes, but it was the social component to being
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in the bowling alley, to talking to other athletes from
other parts of the state and pizza and soft drinks
and having a great social time.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'll tell you the last time I was in a
bowling alley that I can remember in New Hampshire was
nineteen eighty four. And the reason I remember it, I
was covering John Glenn's very brief senator from Ohio presidential campaign.
Now Here you have John Glenn, the guy that he
was a fighter pilot, he circled the world, he was
one of the original astronauts, and they put him in
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a bowling alley. We were doing a story for Channel four.
Of course, he bowls the obligatory bowling ball down the
lane and when you know it, about halfway down the lane,
the ball is in the gutter. Was kind of it
sort of was a metaphor for his presidential campaign. But
I thought to myself, here's a guy who's was a
great athlete, obviously had wonderful eye hand coordination being a
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fighter pilot, and then an astronaut circle the earth, I mean,
just and you know he had the misfortune he's not
a bowler, so I suspect that and I did it.
I basically, of course, used the video of the ball
going in the gutter. And his campaign wasn't going anywhere
for president, great senator, but he That was the year
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that I think Walter Mondale and Gary Hart fought it
out and Mondale was the nominee and he lost anyway.
But the point is I got some criticism for some people.
They said, how could you put a picture of the
great astronaut John Glenn bowling a ball down a bowling
alley in New Hampshire into the gutter? I said, look,
you know, don't take things so seriously here. So I
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hope that everybody. I know your olympians are going to
take it very seriously. But if any of them get discouraged,
just let them know that John Glenn has thrown a
gutter ball too. And if John Glenn could throw a
gutter ball, I think every one of them. So that's
the last time I was in a bowling alley in
New Hampshire and that story has stuck with me all
of these years.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
One if an American hero like John Glenn can throw
a gunner ball, there's hope for all the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
I would think so, I would think so. So if
folks need any information, what can they do between now
and Saturday. If they're not signed up, they're still openings.
Can people go by and just participate in support? Give
us the best way people can get more information.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
The athletes are set. They've actually been training for ten
weeks and some of them even a little bit more
than ten weeks stage of the game, so the athlete
cards are all set. However, we will love it when
spectators come out and cheer our athletes on. And if
you want any information about our schedules and events. So
O NH dot org is in Special Olympics New Hampshire
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s O NH dot org. Click on the calendar. You've
got the schedule. It has the dates and times and
the addresses for all of the bowling venues this weekend.
It's our Special Olympics New Hampshire State Bowling tournament statewide again.
We're in Berlin, Claremont, Exeter, Keen, Laconia. Two venues in Manchester,
one candlepin, one tenpin, and on Sunday we are in
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Nashua as well, and we would love to have you
cheering on our athletes.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
All right, and the website again is s Special Olympics
NH dot org. So so O NH dot org. Great Mark,
best of luck with it, okay, and I'm sure it's
going to be a great day successful for again Special
Olympics in New Hampshire. Appreciate you joining us as always.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Thank you, Dan, have a great YouTube, Mark.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Okay, we get back. We're going to talk about the election,
big election two nights ago. Maybe some of you heard that,
how it turned out. We're going to be talking with
an expert about how you deal with this, maybe with
your friends maybe with family members. I mean, you just
don't want to lose friendships over this. And we're going
to talk with doctor Laura Gabion, she's a physician and
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a researcher how to move forward post election with family
and friends. We'll be right back on Night Side.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Well, there was an election on Tuesday night. Maybe some
of you followed it. A lot of you probably followed it,
and I know that there's a lot of families who
had people on both sides of the election with us.
Now is an author who's also a physician and a researcher,
Doctor Laura Gabion, Uh, doctor aka doctor G. Welcome, Welcome
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tonight's side. The question is how to move forward post
election with family and friends. I don't know about your family,
doctor G, but there's a lot of disagreement within my
immediate in my extended family over this election. Will I
will be happy to tell you that. Are you tonight?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Well, thank you for having me, and I agree. I
think there are a lot of emotions with dollars. So
my suggestion is, first, don't talk about politics, and the second,
I have other thoughts, but I can tell you, oh yeah, no, I.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Want to hear your other thoughts here. First, First of all,
there's always going to be someone who wants to talk
about politics. So yeah, if people don't talk about politics,
that I guess is one way to make sure. But
I think it does come up, and it will come up,
particularly if the families are getting together and maybe someone's
had a beer or a glass of wine, as often
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happens if someone in the family wants to bring it up.
Now we've been through three of these. When you think
about it, twenty sixteen, the feelings were strong and high,
twenty twenty and now twenty twenty four. So how do
you diffuse the situations? I should says? What's that?
Speaker 5 (20:23):
I think the best is to focus on calmonalgies and
to realize that you guys are more like than you
are different and behind. And in my book I found
eight elements of wisdom in my book Comridism, and four
of them are elements that will help you connect with others,
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and kindness is one of them. So being humble, tolerant, turtious,
and kind are really important. So when you talk with people,
realize that you're not going to agree, and in my opinion,
don't talk about it because bannard and has made emotions
even higher than they need to be, and people are
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just they judge, they assume they politics has become like
a sign of your intelligence. It just has become so
many other things. So my thoughts are, if no one
brings it up, look at them and say, look, I
like you a lot more than I do. These issues
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you mean more to me, and my relationship with you
is a lot more important, and I just remind them
that No, I think it's right.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I remember when twenty sixteen, after that election between Donald
Trump and Hillary Clinton, I suggested to my listeners. I said, look,
you're going to have to talk about politics. I said,
when you go to family dinner at Thanksgiving, because obviously
Thanksgiving is always a couple of weeks after the November
early November elections, I said, you know, were your mega
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had or were your Hillary Clinton's son bonnet? A lot
of women were wearing Hillary supporters, I should say, were
wearing kind of that that that Martha's Vineyard type wide
brimmed hats at the time. Uh, and it was I
guess it was. It did work out and in twenty twenty.
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I I told people, don't even talk about it, and
so I don't know what I'm going to tell them
to do. I guess I'll follow your lead. Tell us
about the book. The book is titled give Me the
Proper Title of.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Common Common, And the reason is because it's tossed at
the eight common elements that these wise individuals had in common.
And there were sixty wise adults across North America and
they they and let me tell you about the eight elements. Resilians, Yeah,
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go ahead, looking forward, Yeah, pogitivity, spirituality, humility, tolerance, creativity,
and curiosity. And these are all elements that they had
in common. And it was it was me being the
scientist and the researcher wanting to break down wisdom. We
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really did not know what it was. And it was
kind of more of, oh, I know it when I
see it, And I really wanted to break it down
to eight elements or so whatever elements I found, I
was not repressing eight. And I found these eight and
I and and it kind of makes it so that
if someone reads the book, they look at it and think, well,
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I'm really good at this, and I'm not good at that.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
You the elements really real. I just want to touch
upon them again because I think you got seven there,
but I got the eighth, which I think is so important. Resilience, kindness, positivity, spirituality,
however that is defined, whether it's formal religion or just spirituality, tolerance, humility, creativity.
And the one that I think is the best sign
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of intelligence is curiosity.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I c the foundation of album.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah. I think Einstein at one point said something how
that he wasn't all that intelligent, but he was extremely curious.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
And I know I'm not all that intelligent, but I
know that I am pretty curious. And if you and
I sat on a plane together it was any longer
than an our flight, I would if you were willing,
I'd have a conversation. And I learned a lot about
you and find out that you were an author. And
I love the phrase common wisdom. It's kind of similar
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to the phrase of common sense. And for a long
time people that phrase. They depreciated the value of that phrase.
And I think that that there's a lot of value
in common sense, and I'm sure there's a lot of
value in common wisdom. How was it that you began
to research this area? Is that your area of expertise
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or is this an area? No?
Speaker 5 (25:21):
No, So I'm no. I'm a researcher and I am
used to doing research. I had no idea what wisdom was.
And then twenty thirteen I noticed that I developed a
lot of weakness and you can tell for my speech,
so my muscles are weaker than expected. And then I
realized the medical establishment, which I was a part of,
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was so into labeling me and putting me in the box.
So then I thought, well, who thought outside the box?
And it was the wise And that's when I kind
of went down that track of learning more about wisdom
and I did the study about with and I talked
to sixty wives individuals.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Well, I'll tell you, I think it's it's a great idea.
And again the book Common Wisdom, I assume it's available,
if not bookstores, every bookstore. Everybody gets their books through
Amazon these days. I I hope that it has been
circulated well and uh and then and it's been that
has been sold a lot of How long this has
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been out is a question I always ask.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
I came out in March, March, Yeah, it's a new book.
And then it is on Amazon. People can get it
off of my website, Lauragobine dot com or the original
website where I found I mean, my sixty would go
to to kind of make sure that this is a
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legitimate program. Was the Wisdom Research Project dot com and okay,
both linked to Amazon, and Amazon is a great place
to get it.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Okay, so let me I'm just gonna again. I want
to spell your name for people. It's common Wisdom. Okay,
that's eight scientific element elements of a meaningful life is
the subtitle by doctor Laura l A U r A
gabion g A b A y A. N uh So
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that's the easiest way through. Again, your website, I assume
is your website, doctor Laura Gabyon dot com.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
No, no, it's Laura dot com. Okay, Amazon if you
put in common Wisdom or Amazon come on too, perfect
perfect perfect.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
That's great. Well, look, thanks very much. I enjoyed our conversation.
And uh I perhaps we will have you back when
you write your next book. Thanks very much, doctor ga.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Okay, take care.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
All right, good night, Okay, we get back. We're going
to talk about this severe drought that I think all
of us have seen firsthand here in Massachusetts. If we
have not experience that up close and personal. We have
seen some of these brushfires that with a little with
a lot of dryness and some wind, really have threatened.
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We see what goes on in California all the time,
but we're getting a taste of it here in Massachusetts.
And we will talk with a meteorologist right after the
break here on Nightside. Stay with us.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, you do not have to be a close observer
of the news to realize that we have some fire
issues here in Massachusetts. And of course there are fire
issues out in California the likes of which we have
never seen. But even here in Massachusetts, we're in the
midst of a drought. The grass, the leaves, i should
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say particularly, are just tinder dry, and we've seen a
bunch of these fires that have started, oftentimes from a
spark from a lawnmower or just someone out with the
lawnmower and the engine gets so hot and ignites. Leaves.
With us to talk about our weather and the drought
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that we've now really fully experiencing is Hayden Frank. He's
with the National Weather Service out in Norton. Also they're
located in Boston as well. Hayden, Frank, Welcome to Night
sid How are you?
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Oh good? How are you?
Speaker 2 (29:26):
I'm just great, Thank you for joining us tonight. So
we have not had a lot of rain this summer
or this spring, and certainly not this fall. How severe
a drought is it that we're experiencing.
Speaker 6 (29:42):
Well over much of the state, Dan, it's a moderate
to severe drought right now. For example, Boston itself sins
September first has had two point twenty four inches of rainfall.
The normal from September first to now should be eight
point four to two inches, So that's six point one
eight inches the below normal. That's a big, big departure.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
We had a bunch of rain in certain areas in August.
I remember some very intense rainstorms in August. But then
it's been really quiet, and of course, with the weather
being a little warmer, the nights have been a little
bit warmer. When is this gonna break for us? So
when is this going to turn? I watched the nightly
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newscasts and the weather forecasts every night, and I think
there was some suggestion there might be a little bit
of rain coming in over the weekend. Late over the
weekend Monday. What are you folks seeing at the National
Weather Service?
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Yeah, so, what's happened, Dan, We've been in this area
where high pressure has just blocked everything to our south.
It does look like we're gonna see a light amount
of rainfall like Sunday night into early Monday, but not
a lot and unfortunately the first part of that week
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looks dry. Can tell you that there is some hope
on the horizon, although it's a long way off. Uh,
sometime late next week or next weekend. Some of the
model guidance we're looking at does show that we may
get so much needed rainfall, but it's too far out
to say for sure. But that's the first time we've
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had anything really show up in our models for quite
some time.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Where is where is that coming from? I know that
there's there's a storm brewing down in the Caribbean. Is
is that coming from up from the south or is
that coming in from Canada? What's what's the source of
that or the potential source?
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Yeah, so the potential source is actual actually would be
coming from the southwest and then kind of developing off
the coast if it were to happen, and yeah, that
would be a setup for much needed rainfall. It looks
like if it does happen sometime in the you know,
Thursday of next week into the weekend that following weekend.
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But again, you know this, it's still over a week out,
so a lot of uncertainty. It's not a guarantee that
it's going to happen. It just depends on the track there.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Now, we had a lot of wet weather I believe,
in January and then again in March, so we were
doing pretty well in terms of precipitation. How odd is
it that here in New England where we always associate
the fall days with some heavy rainstorms. Me and even
as kids going back to school, you knew that you
were had to put on those galoshes back in the
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day and buckle up and go through some puddles. I
don't know if you're a native of New England or
but I am, and I remember those days often you
could always count on rain in the fall. How often
if we had a stretch like this at this time
of year, meaning you know, literally late spring, throughout most
of the summer and now into November.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Yeah, it's it's pretty unusual, but it's not unprecedented. You know,
you get a setup like this maybe every five, ten,
fifteen years where you do go even in the Northeast.
I'm from Philadelphia, so it's kind of similar. There's not
really a dry, dry season. It's you know, always seems
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to be you know, rain every several every few days.
So it is unusual to get prolonged dryness that we've seen,
but it's not unprecedented and it does happen from time
to time.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
I think some of the weather forecasters tonight was saying
that in the next day or so, the temperatures are
going to get more fall like, meaning a little colder
than what we've had. I mean, I think you know
where I am has been in the seventies most of
the week here in New England. Is your sense that
that it's going to get a little colder this particular weekend.
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I mean, it's not going to be in the twenties.
We know that. Will that help the drought at all?
Will that generates some ground moisture, some dew, whether whether
it's frost or not, but at least some dew in
the pumpkin?
Speaker 6 (34:09):
What actually actually it kind of works the opposite way,
because we are getting a shot of chilly air later
tomorrow and especially tomorrow night. We're still looking highs in
the sixties tomorrow, which our normal high for this time
of year is actually fifty five degrees. I mean, we
were seventy two today. In the day before we were
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eighty two, which was the latest eight time Boston had
recorded to eighty degrees so late in the season.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
But it does a little cold snap here you're telling me,
is not only not going to help us, but it's
probably going to dry things out even more.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Yeah, I mean yeah, So like tomorrow afternoon and into
tomorrow evening, the probably going to see some wing us
of twenty five to thirty five miles per hour, maybe
a few gous up to forty. So we do have
red flag warnings out again for tomorrow because of the
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wind and the dryness. We're actually going to be lowering
our due points with that cooler air mast coming in,
so that's going to add to lower relative humidities.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
So the best we can hope for, it sounds to
me like, is maybe about a week from today we
might get a real rainstorm for the which would be
the first one since what late August?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
I guess it's been Yeah, it's been a while. You know,
the Cape had a good rainstorm at the end of
summer there, but yeah, it's been extremely dry and we
do need the rain. We are going to get a
little Sunday night, but not much. So it looks like
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we're going to have to wait till late next week
or next weekend, and we'll have to see how that unfolds. Again,
it's more than a week out, but for the first
time in a while, there are signs pointing to a
potential period of much needed rainfall, hopefully a soaking rainfall.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Well that's great. Look, I really appreciate Hayden jumping on
with us tonight. You're down with the National Weather Service
and how long have how long have you been working
up in this neck of the woods. I know you
said you grew up in Philly.
Speaker 6 (36:27):
Yeah, so I've been well working for the Weather Service
here for about twenty years. Hard to believe time flies, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Mean you can. That's almost being a native.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
I guess, yeah, exactly, I feel like it right now.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah. Well, I'll tell you the one thing about weather forecasting.
I'm not a meteorologist. But I have a lot of
friends who are and they say that it's challenging here
in New England. There are place but places around the
country like San Diego where every day it like it's like,
you know, rinse and repeat, you know, be a seventy
five degrees in sunny, you know, three hundred yeah here, yeah, no,
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you get what was real quick question? And this is
just this is a total off the wall question. So
if you haven't thought about this one, what are they
talking about for snow this winter? We've had a pretty
mild last winters the last couple of years. Any long
range thoughts about how much snow we might have might
not get this winter here in New England.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
So long range forecasts are obviously quite difficult once you
get beyond a week out in the future. You know,
right now the forecast favors temperatures to average a bit
above normal, But in terms of snowfall, that's much harder
to assess, because you know, for example, Boston itself averages
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forty five to fifty inches a year, not nothing close
to that the last two years. But if you get
you know, two or three big storms that could you know,
take you eighty percent of the way there. So even
if the winner ends up being you know, above normal,
you can actually still have above normal snowfall. So that's
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really difficult to Well, well we'll.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Talk, we'll talk. I didn't mean to spring that one
on you, but we'll talk about that maybe some other time. Okay, Hey,
thank you so much. I'll let you I'll let you
go and get back to the to the weather dial.
Thanks man, appreciate it. Hey, Frank, and you're very very
hit welcome and thank you for joining us for the
National Weather Service. We get back, we're going to talk
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about the Karen Reid trial and some arguments in front
of the State Supreme Court yesterday which could be pretty significant.
Back right after the nine o'clock news here on Night Side,