November 19, 2024 • 40 mins
For most, Thanksgiving is a time for families to gather around the dinner table and converse. What happens though when conversing with your family members or friends takes a sharp turn into the choppy waters of politics, as many are fearful of, especially after this past election? How do you keep political rifts from ruining Thanksgiving? Have you changed your holiday plans this year over politics?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's night with I'm telling you easy bonding.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Radio, Sarry Well. I hope that you learned something from
the last hour talking about offshore drilling wind turbines off
the coast of New England. I think both of the
representatives represented their points of view as best they could.
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Each were at different times little little concerned on some
of the particulars. I just think it's interesting that environmentalists,
it would seem to me, would want to be in
concert with the fishing industry here for a whole lot
of reasons. But hey, the politics behind all of this
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and the amount of money that's behind all of this,
I got to tell you that it's immense. It's immense,
and I don't really understand it as well as I should.
And there were some questions that were an answer to
my satisfaction. But I think both of the gentlemen represented
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their points of view as well as they could. Now
I want to change topics and maybe get to something
that some of you I was hoping that some of
you would have been. I suspect you were interested in
listening to the conversation which I wanted to make a conversation,
And it wasn't a debate where you ask someone a
question and the other person has a response directly. That's
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not the style we do here on Night Side. So
I hope you enjoyed the hour and the fact that
people didn't seem interested in engaging. Believe me, offshore turvines
will have a tremendous impact on New England and maybe
a positive or maybe a negative, but I think we
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should investigate and try to anticipate which it would be,
and then support or oppose the projects accordingly. Anyway, Thanksgiving,
I mean this is nine days away. The election is over.
It was two weeks ago tonight that Donald Trump won
a decisive victory, and as all of you know, I
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had asked and I had hoped that whoever was going
to win, it would be a decisive victory. My worst
fear was that people would still be fighting over who
had won my Thanksgiving. Now, as it turns out, it'll
be three weeks and two days when people gather, Families gather,
and I would like to know how you would like
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to see Thanksgiving dinner proceed with your family. I know
some of you will be traveling to be with other
members of your family and relatives in far away or
nearby places, and instead of having a family meal of
just your immediate family, you'll probably somewhere with a larger
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group of family members and or friends, different folks obviously,
and there will be the opportunity to talk about the
future of the country, where we are headed as a country,
how we came to choose one candidate one party over
the other, and the potential for heated conversations exist. I
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don't think there should be heated conversations. I think we
can have conversations around our family Thanksgiving dinner table in
the same way that we have conversations here on Nightside.
And I'd love to know how you plan to deal
with it. I saw some interesting comments that were made
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which frankly bothered me, and I guess won't surprise you
that it bothered me. This was a Yale School psychiatrist,
Amanda Calhoun, who was talking on MSNBC about how she
would treat or how family members should be treated. Rob.
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I just want to get right to it. Here. Play
cut number eight A to start.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Us off, Rob, But how do you interact with people
who you know voted for this right? If you are
an LGBTQ person and you know someone in your family
voted essentially against your rights, or you're a woman knowing
that you know this man was calling people the B word.
Jade Vance was literally calling Kamala Harris the trash and
said we're going to take out the trash. I know
a lot of black women were incredibly triggered by that.
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And if you then meet somebody and you know they
voted for the people who called you trash, or if
you're Puerto Rican, you know you know someone voted that way,
do you recommend just from a psychological standpoint being around them.
We got the holidays coming up.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This is a psychiatrist who's speaking. Her name is Amanda Calhoun.
She's on MSNBC with Joy Reid and basically what she's
saying which I don't understand, and again I think this
is part of the problem that the Democratic Party had
in the in the election. It sounds to me like
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she thinks that certain groups of people, whether they be
Black women, white women, LGBTQ community, voted in mass All
of the post election analysis that I have seen is
that there were people of different backgrounds who voted differently,
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which is what you would have expected. I mean, I
don't think that all people who happened to be I
don't know, you know, German American all voted one way
or the other. I don't think all people who happen
to be African American black members of our country voted
all way. Look, Donald Trump supposedly got more Black votes
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and more Hispanic votes than any Republican candidate in history.
You can't accuse black people, and this woman happened to
be black of people who disagreed with her, white or
black for being racist because the choices were between a
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white male and a black female. And I don't think
that that sort of polemic, that sort of conversation does
any of us any good at the end of the day.
And I think it's going to it's going to filter
down through academia and through the media, and all of
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us on Thanksgiving Day will in effect strap on our
uniforms and whomever we happen to support. Even if it's
family members sitting across from you asking you to pass
a piece of pumpkin pie, you're going to be tempted
to throw it at someone because you think they might
have voted differently. What that was wrong with us as
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a society. We live in a democracy which was celebrated
through most of and will be celebrated immensely in the
next few years, particularly as we approach the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary of the Battle of Bunker Battle of
Bunker Hill, and the Battles of Lexington and conquered, and
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in twenty twenty six the signing of the Declaration of Independence?
Is it not possible for you to remain friends with
someone who voted differently than you? And I'm really asking
you on a one to one basis tonight, which I've
never done before. I've approached this before, but I'm asking
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each of you to be willing to call and bear
your soul if you have a family member, a relative,
a neighbor, a friend who you come to realize voted
differently than you voted for the Republican as opposed to
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the Democratic, or conversely voted for the Democrat is supposed
to Republican. Are you going to take the advice of
Yale Schools psychiatrist Amanda Calhoun again, This is one more
of her soundbites with Joy Read and MSNBC cut number
eight B. Please Rob So, I.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Love that you asked this question because you know there
is a push I think just a societal norm that
if somebody is your family, that they are entitled to
your time, and I think the answer is absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
If you are going into a situation where you have
family members, where you have close friends who you know
have voted in ways that are against you, like what
you said, against your livelihood, and it's completely fine to
not be around those people and to tell them why,
you know, to say, I have a problem with the
way that you voted because it went against my very
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livelihood and I'm not going to be around you this holiday.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I need to take some space for me.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That is psycho babel insanity. Psychle babel insanity. And I
know from the network that this professor or doctor is
appearing on MSNBC. I know from what perspective that is
being offered. How how elitist is it for someone in
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your family or for you to say to someone in
your family, I know how you voted, and because I
now know how you voted, I want nothing to do
with you. If you want to, if you want to
define elitism, put this psychiat picture in the dictionary. So
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I want to hear from you if you are whoever
you were for and if you're telling me that you
cannot go to a family Thanksgiving dinner and at least
treat your family members and your relatives and your friends
and your neighbors respectfully. The election is over. It's over, okay,
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And whether Professor Amanda Calhoun likes it or not, apparently
the candidate that she voted for for president did not
get sufficient number of votes to become the president elect,
and that that president elect will become president. As I
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said when Joe Biden was president, he's my president. I
had that conversation many times with some of the people
who were continuing to question the legitimacy of the twenty
twenty election. This is a cancer within our society and
it can be traced back. You know, this is not
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the first year. Twenty twenty wasn't the first year. Twenty
sixteen wasn't the first year. It goes back a long way.
It goes back a long way and is destructive. So
I'm going to open it up, and I'm hoping to
hear from people on both sides of the political spectrum,
an acknowledgement, an acknowledgement that guess what, you know, each
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of us have a choice in a democracy That's what
a democracy means. Each of us has a choice to make,
and the elections over the time to criticize the new
administration begins on January twentieth when they take office. You
could criticize some of the cabinets elections, that's fine. But
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to say that you want to cut off relations and
tell some family member that somehow they are not worthy
of your time because they have a different political viewpoint?
Is that? Where is that where this country's headed? Six
one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. Those lines are full.
Six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Let's get
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at it. And I hope to hear from people on
both sides of the aisle. Please don't disappoint me. And
also I hope this. Remember this the only thing worse
than a sore loser, And you can look up sore
loser and there's Yale School psychiatrist Amanda Calhoun's picture. The
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only worse than a sore loser is a sore winner.
Remember that back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Here, let's go, Let's go to Steve and Boston. Steve
you're going to start us off tonight.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, thanks to take my call.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Welcome Steve. What's your thought on this?
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (13:07):
So I'm just gonna make three points and then I'll
hang up and I'll listen. But first point, my wife
is distraught about the election, and I say to her,
if you have a friend that's Jewish, would you not
sit down and have Thanksgiving with them? And she said, well,
of course I would. And I said, well, what's the
difference if somebody has different religious views, of different political views,
why are we Why are we making such a fuss here?
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We can agree to disagree. A few years ago, and
I'm not a fan, but Ellen DeGeneres said something. She
went to a football game with George Bush, and all
of Ellen's fans criticized her for that, and she said, hey,
I'm friends with the guy. He's a good guy. We
have different political views. Why can't I still be friends
with him? And I thought that was pretty cool. My
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last point is the society that we have is because
we give too many voice. Too many people on the
far right the far left the voice. They are the minority.
The people in the middle are the majority. But we
give the people on the extremes too much of a voice.
I'll hang up and listen from here. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, I just don't don't hang up for a second.
Let me just tell you I think those are three
really interesting points, and hopefully some of our listeners will
we hardy did I hang up? I think the points
he made were pretty interesting. I was unfamiliar with the
Ellen degenerous story, but that that does not surprise me.
I think most of us are very accepting of different
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religious viewpoints that our friends might might hold. There was
not a time, there was a time in this country
where that was not necessarily true, okay, And I think
we have as a country we have evolved out of that.
And I think very few people that I know hold
any antipathy towards people because of their religious viewpoints. I
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think there are so many religious viewpoints. I mean, you know,
someone explained to me that between an Episcopalian and a
Presbyterian and a congregational incident whatever, that's it just is.
It is an interesting point that Steve made. I wish
he had had had stuck with us. The problem is
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that that sometimes sports the only thing that's analogous is
sometimes sports fans engage in literally fisticuffs at games. Now
generally there's a healthy portion of alcohol involved there. But
at the top of the latter is this deep divide
politically which the country has survived. I mean, we have
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survived Democratic and Republican presidents. We've survived presidents who you know,
you couldn't if I mentioned the name, you know, James Garfield.
There's not too many people who could tell me what
year off the top of their head he was elected. Uh,
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you know, James Buchanan, whatever, Millard Fillmore. I mean, did
you survive presidents who you know, at times the country
was growing and developing. You have, you know, great Democratic presidents.
Franklin Roosevelt would be one that I think of immediately
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effective Democratic presidents. Bill Clinton may have had his his
his problems, but I think he was an effective president,
learned how to work with Republicans in Congress. Ronald Reagan,
John Kennedy, I think they were effective presidents. Dwight eisenhowerd
Harry Truman. And again, you know, Barack Obama deported three
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million people. Uh, you got to keep that in mind.
I don't know how many people Donald Trump hopes to deport,
how many he will deport all of those if people
just don't I think maybe part of is we really
don't understand politics is too complicated. Maybe I don't know.
Well we're talking about it. I've tried to set it
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up as best I can as now up to you,
folks six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty or
six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. I was
going to ask Steve. He said that his wife was despondent.
He and his wife may have voted the same way.
I was hoping to ask him what they were doing
for Thanksgiving and were they going to meet with relatives.
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I mean I kind of imagine as a family in America.
I mean an extended family in America in which all
voted one way or the other. The exit polls defy
that theory. The exit polls defy what Professor Amanda Calhoun
was spouting to Joy Read on MSNBC. Back on Nightside,
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here's the news. We'll pick it up right after this.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's Night Side with Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
All right, back to the phones we go, Let's go toos.
Up next, Joe and Walpole. Joe, you're next on Nightside. Welcome, Yes,
Hi Dan, how you doing I'm going fine. The question
is how are families going to do this Thanksgiving? I mean,
I know there'll be someone to say, well, we do God,
I have any political conversations. I think that's a cop out.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, well, I think political conversations at family dinners are
are a relatively natural thing. Listen, Dan, We're a highly
political country, and and that and that can and and
that can be very healthy. Some of the most bright
ideas came from the founding fathers talking about political ideas
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in the bar room back during the revolution. So there
shouldn't be anything wrong with families talking politics. But I
think where the main problem comes from in our country
is and this is a relatively new thing. I studied
a lot of history in high school in college, and
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I think a lot of it comes from there's this
fear mongering that's starting to happen, and I think it's
started in the eighties about where the candidates in the
media can make you believe that your brother, if they
voted for Trump, hates everybody hates everybody that's not white,
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or if your sister voted for Kamala, she hates white men.
And I think that's it's very strange and I think
that's where that lady you were talking about. I think
that's where she goes wrong. Oh you need a break
from your family because of their political view. Well, if
you don't spend time with your family, and all you
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can think in the back of your brain is all
day voted for so and so, how are you gonna
build your relationships. I went to California over the summer
last year for a wedding, and my side of the
family that lives here in Massachusetts, including myself, a lot
of them are Republicans. But I went to my mother's
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side of the family, who are quite liberal. They're all Democrats.
And you know, looking back on my cousin and I's relationship,
we had some pretty bad back and forth on Facebook,
and both sides are guilty. And you know what, I'm
so embarrassed. And I said to him, Hey, let's put
this aside. We're not going to agree on anything, but
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let's enjoy our time together as a family.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah. I mean, that's one way to go about it. Obviously.
The other way to go about it is say, hey, look,
all points of view are welcome here. Do what we
try to do. One nights, I give everybody a chance
to talk about it. I mean, I can. Obviously, there
was a lot of anger after the twenty twenty election.
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We saw it played out in Washington, d C. Sadly,
and there were, you know, allegations that that turned out
not to be true, the election was stolen, et cetera.
We just ran a very reasonable, rational, competent election. I
don't think there's anyone running around right now saying that
the twenty twenty four presidential election was fixed. I think
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Democrats are admitting Trump won. There were a lot of
Republicans that did not admit that Biden won in twenty twenty.
Shame on them. And kudos to President Biden for meeting
President Trump the other day and spending some time with him,
even though the language that they both used during the
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campaign was above was beneath the office they that they
both ones held correct.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Correct, No, you hit it right on the head there.
You know, we can all learn from the interaction between
President Biden and President elect Trump. I mean, if them
two guys can uh somehow forge an understanding, I think
that the gen Z grand grandchild can form a path
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with their grandparents.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Couldn't agree with it more very nice nicely said Joe,
Thank you much.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Appreciate your time, Thank you my call. Have a good night.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
You're more than welcome. Thank you for joining us. Ladies,
don't let this one be dominated by the men. I
want to hear women's voices on this. Whomever you voted for, whomever,
and if you disagree with me, I mean, if you
just contolerate the thought of being in the same room
or in the same house with someone who's political viewpoints
are different than yours, and and resulted in I guess, uh,
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each of you eliminating the value of your vote was
was in effect compromised by the vote of something. Maybe
that's what it is down deep. They think that somehow
their vote is more important. I don't think so. I
don't think so. Let me go to Rick in North Reading. Rick,
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you were next on nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Hey, Hey Dan, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Sir?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Good?
Speaker 7 (23:34):
Uh, yeah, you're doing well great, Thanks thanks for asking. Yeah,
I just want to talk a little bit about what
happened over the weekend. I was actually gathering with my friends, right,
and apparently we're talking about the conversa Kamala and uh,
I don't actually remember who exactly that I voted for.
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But I did hear a lot of my friends there's
super upset for trom winning election and all that, and.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
You don't waste you don't remember who you voted for.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
Yeah, because we're wearing Massachusett, right because regardless, it's always
going to be a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So oh, no questions about that. But I would think
you still would remember who you vote. But that's okay.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Maybe I do remember.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
I do remember I voted no to question two though,
That's what I do remember.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Okay, so that was important to you. Okay, fine, so
so go ahead, continue to stro. I didn't mean to
interrupt your go ahead?
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Yeah, right, right? Uh so I think they so a
lot of my friends, I would say a majority of
my friend there are Harris supporter, right And to me myself,
I'm more like independent, I would say. And I do
understand where they're coming from. And I do have a
lot of other friends that are supporting Trumba, and I
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do understand where they're coming from. And I think in
this country, even though what people may have different political
point of view, but we can still be friends. It's
just that when we're talking about instead of debating or
being angry, we're just we're just chat about what's going
to happen to our life. What are some of implications
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from that? And to me, I feel like what we
really should do is to keep whatever we have in common,
and we embrace that, and we just leave whatever we have,
whatever the differences we have, to ourselves. That's how I feel, Yeah, myself,
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And go ahead.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I said, I wish more people felt like like you felt.
You said that you're an immigrant. What country did you
come here from? If I could ask?
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
From China? So what happened? Yeah? What happened in China
is that you don't actually have a freedom to speech, right.
You can't really.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Unless you're a party member, that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Yeah. Yeah, and you basically you don't actually have your
freedom to express whatever the politic or idea you have.
And what I'm hoping for is that we don't turn
the country I'm living in right now to the countries
that I moved out of.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
How difficult was it for you to get out of China?
I'm just curious.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
It wasn't hard for me though, because I came here
as a college student, and I got a job after graduation,
get a green card, and get married here and all that,
it wasn't that hard. But right now, nowadays, it will
be pretty hard for a lot of people to get
her legally. It's really hard to get a visa.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I haven't I haven't talked to many people who have
gotten out of China. So I'm going to take advantage
of the opportunity. I assume you have family. If you're
recently out of college, I assume you still have family
back in China.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Now I'll be out of college for over ten years.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Tell you, well, I considered that pretty recent wreck. To
be honest with, It's okay. If I told you what
year I got out of college, you'd be stunned. But
I assume you must have family back in China. Parents,
I do, Siblings.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
I do, I do, I do have a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Okay, now, are you able to go back for a
visit or do you fear going back for a visit?
You would have problems getting.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Out, so so going back and visiting them it was
totally fine. It's just that especially lazily from time to time.
What happened was that sometimes when I was FaceTime my
friends or my family member back in China, right and
we're using a FaceTime and then a few days later,
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the local cops may just give them a suppresident of saying, hey,
don't use FaceTime anymore, I can use whatever the Chinese
social apps, So that that's what happened. But just going
back there to them mostoryfying.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Wow, boy, I kind of imagine the decisions that you
had to make upon graduation, graduating from college. It had
to be very, very difficult, and you above all realize
what a great gift we have in this country. And
as some perhaps said, if we lose this country to
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either the right or the left, where where will the
people who are fall out of favor? Where will they go?
You know? I mean there's there's people from all over
the world who are coming here to escape countries like
China and to escape you know, dictatorships, whether it's you know,
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in Latin America rather you know, in Cuba, or or
or in Latin America or in other you know, I mean,
there are people you can't even get out of North Korea.
I mean, that's that's worse than China. Even so, welcome, welcome.
I I hope you're on your path to citizenship.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am actually so good for you.
Good for you well, yeah, and also just one more
common before I hand out, because I really have to go.
I think when I'm when I when I first came
to the United States, I heard a lot about this
mentality of no judgment, right, and so to me, the
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the no judgments really to try to well, I guess
for me, it's rude to understand whatever the decision people
make that I don't actually understand. If you make a
decision that I actually don't understand, if you have a
point of view that I really don't understand, I'll leave
it to yourself because I believe you, as a grown,
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grown man or grown adult, you have your your room mentality, right,
instead of just trying to argue that's what I'm thinking, Yeah, No.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I think that's you know, I would and I don't
understand someone's circumstances or that's why I asked you what
it was like, because I don't get an opportunity to
ask someone like you who have had the courage to
stay here, uh and and and leave behind what you
have known. That's a difficult that's a difficult decision for
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anyone to make. So I just want to stay welcome,
and this is your first time call on my show.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Uh no, that's for my second time.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Okay, well you come buy more frequently, okay, Rick, that
would be that would be great. Well, all right, did
you get a round of applause the first time? Uh?
Speaker 7 (30:43):
I think I did.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I think we give round of applause the first time calls.
I want to make sure that that you got to
get round of applause and come on back many times.
I really appreciate you listening, and I really enjoyed the conversation.
Thank you much.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
All right right, thank you, have a good one.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Have a great night, Rick, congratulations. That's it. That's it.
That's the type of call that that you can only
do and talk radio. Meaning he's as honest as the
day is long, and all of us should have been
able to take a lesson there. Okay, I got some
quiet lines here what they don't like. So I'm going
to basically give the numbers real slowly here six one, seven, two, five,
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four ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. The question is all of us, well most
of us, hopefully all of us, but most of us
will be at a family gathering. I mean, I know
there will be some people who will still be alone. Unfortunately,
if there is someone who lives near you who's truly alone,
make sure they're incorporated, bring them, bring them with you,
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or or invite them to wherever you're going, or if
you're hosting someone, there should always be room for one more.
We're all Americans and it doesn't matter. Feel free to
follow that advice. But call give me a call. I'd
love to know. Should politics be off the table on Thanksgiving?
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I think it's healthy for us to understand that, hey,
you voted for someone different than me, but you still
remember my family. We're still friends or we're neighbors, and
those votes probably cancel each other out. So what doesn't matter.
It really doesn't matter, and you don't have to hold
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entity against people with whom you disagree politically. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten
thirty Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Let's go gonna go to Mark, Mark, you were next
on Nightside. Thanks you again, thanks.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
For taking my call. I voted for Kamala Harris for president,
but I have a good friend, a neighbor who voted
for Donald Trump, And from the beginning, I've taken the
attitude that he was entitled to his opinion and that
I was glad he was a voting period. Since the election,
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his out of town family have pretty much ostracized him,
I mean, give him a real, real hard time for
voting for Trump, and hinted broadly that since he lives
pretty much entirely on disability benefits, that he shouldn't be
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allowed to vote at all, and might not. I mean,
I thought we took care of that issue with the
Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, you're right in the money on
this one. And again, you're a Harris supporter. I know
that you're very much a Democrat, and I think.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
Though you've heard my criticism of the Democratic Party establishment
on the elite is a missue. The content evans for
money and all that, and I think you can't hear me,
but I was very sad to hear what my friend's
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family had done to him, or tried to do to him.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well, I agree with you, and I hope that you
support your friend. And you know what, by being good
to your friend, maybe he will realize that there's people
on both sides of the equation, both sides of the isle,
and your proof of that that are decent human beings.
And I thank you for your call mark as always.
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Okay, thank you, great call.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Mark, great call Thank you so much. Jamie is in Worcester. Jamie,
you're next on Nightsig go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
Hey Dan, how are you doing.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I'm doing fine, Jamie, you go ahead. What's your thoughts
on this issue we've tried to open up tonight.
Speaker 9 (35:06):
Well, I got a brother that actually worked for on
on the on the side for Joe Biden. He was
she was her. He was her which we call it
planner because he does planning for hotels and stuff and
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restaurants and stuff. So he met the daughter somehow and
they got a job and he became her itinerary planner.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So he became I just want to make sure I
follow this. He became the itinerary planner for Joe Biden's daughter.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Well, she met Joe Biden's daughter and helped her with
some promotion, and she introduced him to Joe Biden, and
all of a sudden he became Joe Biden's like a
itenerary planner. Like they went to the Olympics and he
planned that and.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Oh okay, fine, okay, yep, okay, And again, how is
this person related to you? And know I missed that
part of you. Oh he's my brother, your brother, Okay, great?
Well good. So so he's he's had access to the
White House. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Ye.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
So the four years and Trump was in office, he
was vicious to me and my father because you know,
we were Trump supporters, and every day he was sending
me messages on my phone saying this and that whatever.
But anyways, so Trump won this election and me and
my dad probably supported Trump even though he wanted us
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to support Harris, of course. Yeah, and so we're still
Every Thanksgiving we go to Provincetown to visit him, and
it's he has a house down there, and we all
go down there. We spend a couple of days and stuff.
So it's still on, which I was surprised. I was
wondering if it was canceled. But it wasn't canceled. So
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we're going on. But I'm like, no, I don't think
we're gonna bring up the topic of Trump, you know,
like I'm just gonna keep quiet and hope he hasn't
like sending any shop comments back at me about it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
You know, yeah, yeah, it kind of a difficult spot
to be in because obviously you're a guest at your
brother's place. I would hope you know, again, as I
said before, you know, but if people are sore losers,
that doesn't set a great example. You know. But and
also you don't you don't want to be a bad winner.
So if it does come up, big, be magnanimous, say
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something like, uh, well maybe Harris will get elected next time.
That's probably not gonna happen. But you know, I.
Speaker 9 (37:56):
Go down, I go down to privatize because my father's
he is, Oh, we can't drive down there, so I have.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
To tell yeah, oh no, take it. You know what,
you don't know how many thanksgivings you're gonna have with
your dad, and for that matter, you don't know how
many thanksgivings you're gonna have with your brother, So enjoy
the day. If if politics comes up, I'd be prepared
and I'd say, look, you know, we were lucky, we won.
Uh let's see what he can do and who knows. Maybe, yeah,
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just you're.
Speaker 9 (38:24):
Gonna me like, you know, you voted, but Trump you
didn't thing, and he's like trying gotta take me on it.
I'm like, I'm gonna play dumb, like a just voted
for what I thought was the best candy.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
That's a good thing. Yeah, that I exercised. I I
believe that the democracy. I believe in democracy, and and
I I don't have to tell anyone who I voted for.
Remember there were the ads where they were encouraging women,
you know, you know, the you know, you don't have
to tell your husband who you vote for. As it
turned out, I think it was fifty two percent of
women voted for Donald Trump. So right, you know, keep
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some of those statistics in the back of your mind. Jamie,
this is your first time calling.
Speaker 9 (39:03):
No, no, yeah, it's my first time.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I've got all you on and flaws. Now what I
want you is become a regular caller. Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:13):
I know.
Speaker 9 (39:13):
I listen to you every time I got to work.
I work at a package store, so I get out
late night and I have you you on my radio.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Any night, any night. You could check us out on
our podcast too, if some of the earlier hours you
might miss. You can follow us on Facebook or follow
me on Twitter. Or whatever you want. And there's a
lot of great programming you're missing while you're working, so
you can always listen to it the next day. Think
about that.
Speaker 9 (39:38):
Yeah, no, I know that it's great, and I just
enjoy your show. I found you on my phone on
my radio because I get out at eleven o'clock at night.
I'm looking at for something on the radio and I
just found you and I like you.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
So I like you too, Jamie. Have a great Thanksgiving
and say give our best to your dad and your brother. Okay,
that will really drive him crazy. Thanks man, tell too soon.
We went a little Thanks Jamie went a little long there,
but we'll be back. Feel free fill these phone lines up.
Coming back on night Side
It's night with I'm telling you easy bonding.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Radio, Sarry Well. I hope that you learned something from
the last hour talking about offshore drilling wind turbines off
the coast of New England. I think both of the
representatives represented their points of view as best they could.
(00:26):
Each were at different times little little concerned on some
of the particulars. I just think it's interesting that environmentalists,
it would seem to me, would want to be in
concert with the fishing industry here for a whole lot
of reasons. But hey, the politics behind all of this
(00:51):
and the amount of money that's behind all of this,
I got to tell you that it's immense. It's immense,
and I don't really understand it as well as I should.
And there were some questions that were an answer to
my satisfaction. But I think both of the gentlemen represented
(01:12):
their points of view as well as they could. Now
I want to change topics and maybe get to something
that some of you I was hoping that some of
you would have been. I suspect you were interested in
listening to the conversation which I wanted to make a conversation,
And it wasn't a debate where you ask someone a
question and the other person has a response directly. That's
(01:33):
not the style we do here on Night Side. So
I hope you enjoyed the hour and the fact that
people didn't seem interested in engaging. Believe me, offshore turvines
will have a tremendous impact on New England and maybe
a positive or maybe a negative, but I think we
(01:56):
should investigate and try to anticipate which it would be,
and then support or oppose the projects accordingly. Anyway, Thanksgiving,
I mean this is nine days away. The election is over.
It was two weeks ago tonight that Donald Trump won
a decisive victory, and as all of you know, I
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had asked and I had hoped that whoever was going
to win, it would be a decisive victory. My worst
fear was that people would still be fighting over who
had won my Thanksgiving. Now, as it turns out, it'll
be three weeks and two days when people gather, Families gather,
and I would like to know how you would like
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to see Thanksgiving dinner proceed with your family. I know
some of you will be traveling to be with other
members of your family and relatives in far away or
nearby places, and instead of having a family meal of
just your immediate family, you'll probably somewhere with a larger
(03:03):
group of family members and or friends, different folks obviously,
and there will be the opportunity to talk about the
future of the country, where we are headed as a country,
how we came to choose one candidate one party over
the other, and the potential for heated conversations exist. I
(03:29):
don't think there should be heated conversations. I think we
can have conversations around our family Thanksgiving dinner table in
the same way that we have conversations here on Nightside.
And I'd love to know how you plan to deal
with it. I saw some interesting comments that were made
(03:55):
which frankly bothered me, and I guess won't surprise you
that it bothered me. This was a Yale School psychiatrist,
Amanda Calhoun, who was talking on MSNBC about how she
would treat or how family members should be treated. Rob.
(04:19):
I just want to get right to it. Here. Play
cut number eight A to start.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Us off, Rob, But how do you interact with people
who you know voted for this right? If you are
an LGBTQ person and you know someone in your family
voted essentially against your rights, or you're a woman knowing
that you know this man was calling people the B word.
Jade Vance was literally calling Kamala Harris the trash and
said we're going to take out the trash. I know
a lot of black women were incredibly triggered by that.
(04:45):
And if you then meet somebody and you know they
voted for the people who called you trash, or if
you're Puerto Rican, you know you know someone voted that way,
do you recommend just from a psychological standpoint being around them.
We got the holidays coming up.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This is a psychiatrist who's speaking. Her name is Amanda Calhoun.
She's on MSNBC with Joy Reid and basically what she's
saying which I don't understand, and again I think this
is part of the problem that the Democratic Party had
in the in the election. It sounds to me like
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she thinks that certain groups of people, whether they be
Black women, white women, LGBTQ community, voted in mass All
of the post election analysis that I have seen is
that there were people of different backgrounds who voted differently,
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which is what you would have expected. I mean, I
don't think that all people who happened to be I
don't know, you know, German American all voted one way
or the other. I don't think all people who happen
to be African American black members of our country voted
all way. Look, Donald Trump supposedly got more Black votes
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and more Hispanic votes than any Republican candidate in history.
You can't accuse black people, and this woman happened to
be black of people who disagreed with her, white or
black for being racist because the choices were between a
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white male and a black female. And I don't think
that that sort of polemic, that sort of conversation does
any of us any good at the end of the day.
And I think it's going to it's going to filter
down through academia and through the media, and all of
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us on Thanksgiving Day will in effect strap on our
uniforms and whomever we happen to support. Even if it's
family members sitting across from you asking you to pass
a piece of pumpkin pie, you're going to be tempted
to throw it at someone because you think they might
have voted differently. What that was wrong with us as
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a society. We live in a democracy which was celebrated
through most of and will be celebrated immensely in the
next few years, particularly as we approach the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary of the Battle of Bunker Battle of
Bunker Hill, and the Battles of Lexington and conquered, and
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in twenty twenty six the signing of the Declaration of Independence?
Is it not possible for you to remain friends with
someone who voted differently than you? And I'm really asking
you on a one to one basis tonight, which I've
never done before. I've approached this before, but I'm asking
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each of you to be willing to call and bear
your soul if you have a family member, a relative,
a neighbor, a friend who you come to realize voted
differently than you voted for the Republican as opposed to
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the Democratic, or conversely voted for the Democrat is supposed
to Republican. Are you going to take the advice of
Yale Schools psychiatrist Amanda Calhoun again, This is one more
of her soundbites with Joy Read and MSNBC cut number
eight B. Please Rob So, I.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Love that you asked this question because you know there
is a push I think just a societal norm that
if somebody is your family, that they are entitled to
your time, and I think the answer is absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
If you are going into a situation where you have
family members, where you have close friends who you know
have voted in ways that are against you, like what
you said, against your livelihood, and it's completely fine to
not be around those people and to tell them why,
you know, to say, I have a problem with the
way that you voted because it went against my very
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livelihood and I'm not going to be around you this holiday.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I need to take some space for me.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That is psycho babel insanity. Psychle babel insanity. And I
know from the network that this professor or doctor is
appearing on MSNBC. I know from what perspective that is
being offered. How how elitist is it for someone in
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your family or for you to say to someone in
your family, I know how you voted, and because I
now know how you voted, I want nothing to do
with you. If you want to, if you want to
define elitism, put this psychiat picture in the dictionary. So
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I want to hear from you if you are whoever
you were for and if you're telling me that you
cannot go to a family Thanksgiving dinner and at least
treat your family members and your relatives and your friends
and your neighbors respectfully. The election is over. It's over, okay,
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And whether Professor Amanda Calhoun likes it or not, apparently
the candidate that she voted for for president did not
get sufficient number of votes to become the president elect,
and that that president elect will become president. As I
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said when Joe Biden was president, he's my president. I
had that conversation many times with some of the people
who were continuing to question the legitimacy of the twenty
twenty election. This is a cancer within our society and
it can be traced back. You know, this is not
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the first year. Twenty twenty wasn't the first year. Twenty
sixteen wasn't the first year. It goes back a long way.
It goes back a long way and is destructive. So
I'm going to open it up, and I'm hoping to
hear from people on both sides of the political spectrum,
an acknowledgement, an acknowledgement that guess what, you know, each
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of us have a choice in a democracy That's what
a democracy means. Each of us has a choice to make,
and the elections over the time to criticize the new
administration begins on January twentieth when they take office. You
could criticize some of the cabinets elections, that's fine. But
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to say that you want to cut off relations and
tell some family member that somehow they are not worthy
of your time because they have a different political viewpoint?
Is that? Where is that where this country's headed? Six
one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. Those lines are full.
Six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Let's get
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at it. And I hope to hear from people on
both sides of the aisle. Please don't disappoint me. And
also I hope this. Remember this the only thing worse
than a sore loser, And you can look up sore
loser and there's Yale School psychiatrist Amanda Calhoun's picture. The
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only worse than a sore loser is a sore winner.
Remember that back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Here, let's go, Let's go to Steve and Boston. Steve
you're going to start us off tonight.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, thanks to take my call.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
Welcome Steve. What's your thought on this?
Speaker 7 (13:07):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (13:07):
So I'm just gonna make three points and then I'll
hang up and I'll listen. But first point, my wife
is distraught about the election, and I say to her,
if you have a friend that's Jewish, would you not
sit down and have Thanksgiving with them? And she said, well,
of course I would. And I said, well, what's the
difference if somebody has different religious views, of different political views,
why are we Why are we making such a fuss here?
(13:30):
We can agree to disagree. A few years ago, and
I'm not a fan, but Ellen DeGeneres said something. She
went to a football game with George Bush, and all
of Ellen's fans criticized her for that, and she said, hey,
I'm friends with the guy. He's a good guy. We
have different political views. Why can't I still be friends
with him? And I thought that was pretty cool. My
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last point is the society that we have is because
we give too many voice. Too many people on the
far right the far left the voice. They are the minority.
The people in the middle are the majority. But we
give the people on the extremes too much of a voice.
I'll hang up and listen from here. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, I just don't don't hang up for a second.
Let me just tell you I think those are three
really interesting points, and hopefully some of our listeners will
we hardy did I hang up? I think the points
he made were pretty interesting. I was unfamiliar with the
Ellen degenerous story, but that that does not surprise me.
I think most of us are very accepting of different
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religious viewpoints that our friends might might hold. There was
not a time, there was a time in this country
where that was not necessarily true, okay, And I think
we have as a country we have evolved out of that.
And I think very few people that I know hold
any antipathy towards people because of their religious viewpoints. I
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think there are so many religious viewpoints. I mean, you know,
someone explained to me that between an Episcopalian and a
Presbyterian and a congregational incident whatever, that's it just is.
It is an interesting point that Steve made. I wish
he had had had stuck with us. The problem is
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that that sometimes sports the only thing that's analogous is
sometimes sports fans engage in literally fisticuffs at games. Now
generally there's a healthy portion of alcohol involved there. But
at the top of the latter is this deep divide
politically which the country has survived. I mean, we have
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survived Democratic and Republican presidents. We've survived presidents who you know,
you couldn't if I mentioned the name, you know, James Garfield.
There's not too many people who could tell me what
year off the top of their head he was elected. Uh,
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you know, James Buchanan, whatever, Millard Fillmore. I mean, did
you survive presidents who you know, at times the country
was growing and developing. You have, you know, great Democratic presidents.
Franklin Roosevelt would be one that I think of immediately
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effective Democratic presidents. Bill Clinton may have had his his
his problems, but I think he was an effective president,
learned how to work with Republicans in Congress. Ronald Reagan,
John Kennedy, I think they were effective presidents. Dwight eisenhowerd
Harry Truman. And again, you know, Barack Obama deported three
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million people. Uh, you got to keep that in mind.
I don't know how many people Donald Trump hopes to deport,
how many he will deport all of those if people
just don't I think maybe part of is we really
don't understand politics is too complicated. Maybe I don't know.
Well we're talking about it. I've tried to set it
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up as best I can as now up to you,
folks six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty or
six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. I was
going to ask Steve. He said that his wife was despondent.
He and his wife may have voted the same way.
I was hoping to ask him what they were doing
for Thanksgiving and were they going to meet with relatives.
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I mean I kind of imagine as a family in America.
I mean an extended family in America in which all
voted one way or the other. The exit polls defy
that theory. The exit polls defy what Professor Amanda Calhoun
was spouting to Joy Read on MSNBC. Back on Nightside,
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here's the news. We'll pick it up right after this.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
It's Night Side with Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
All right, back to the phones we go, Let's go toos.
Up next, Joe and Walpole. Joe, you're next on Nightside. Welcome, Yes,
Hi Dan, how you doing I'm going fine. The question
is how are families going to do this Thanksgiving? I mean,
I know there'll be someone to say, well, we do God,
I have any political conversations. I think that's a cop out.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Yeah, well, I think political conversations at family dinners are
are a relatively natural thing. Listen, Dan, We're a highly
political country, and and that and that can and and
that can be very healthy. Some of the most bright
ideas came from the founding fathers talking about political ideas
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in the bar room back during the revolution. So there
shouldn't be anything wrong with families talking politics. But I
think where the main problem comes from in our country
is and this is a relatively new thing. I studied
a lot of history in high school in college, and
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I think a lot of it comes from there's this
fear mongering that's starting to happen, and I think it's
started in the eighties about where the candidates in the
media can make you believe that your brother, if they
voted for Trump, hates everybody hates everybody that's not white,
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or if your sister voted for Kamala, she hates white men.
And I think that's it's very strange and I think
that's where that lady you were talking about. I think
that's where she goes wrong. Oh you need a break
from your family because of their political view. Well, if
you don't spend time with your family, and all you
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can think in the back of your brain is all
day voted for so and so, how are you gonna
build your relationships. I went to California over the summer
last year for a wedding, and my side of the
family that lives here in Massachusetts, including myself, a lot
of them are Republicans. But I went to my mother's
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side of the family, who are quite liberal. They're all Democrats.
And you know, looking back on my cousin and I's relationship,
we had some pretty bad back and forth on Facebook,
and both sides are guilty. And you know what, I'm
so embarrassed. And I said to him, Hey, let's put
this aside. We're not going to agree on anything, but
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let's enjoy our time together as a family.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah. I mean, that's one way to go about it. Obviously.
The other way to go about it is say, hey, look,
all points of view are welcome here. Do what we
try to do. One nights, I give everybody a chance
to talk about it. I mean, I can. Obviously, there
was a lot of anger after the twenty twenty election.
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We saw it played out in Washington, d C. Sadly,
and there were, you know, allegations that that turned out
not to be true, the election was stolen, et cetera.
We just ran a very reasonable, rational, competent election. I
don't think there's anyone running around right now saying that
the twenty twenty four presidential election was fixed. I think
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Democrats are admitting Trump won. There were a lot of
Republicans that did not admit that Biden won in twenty twenty.
Shame on them. And kudos to President Biden for meeting
President Trump the other day and spending some time with him,
even though the language that they both used during the
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campaign was above was beneath the office they that they
both ones held correct.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
Correct, No, you hit it right on the head there.
You know, we can all learn from the interaction between
President Biden and President elect Trump. I mean, if them
two guys can uh somehow forge an understanding, I think
that the gen Z grand grandchild can form a path
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with their grandparents.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Couldn't agree with it more very nice nicely said Joe,
Thank you much.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Appreciate your time, Thank you my call. Have a good night.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
You're more than welcome. Thank you for joining us. Ladies,
don't let this one be dominated by the men. I
want to hear women's voices on this. Whomever you voted for, whomever,
and if you disagree with me, I mean, if you
just contolerate the thought of being in the same room
or in the same house with someone who's political viewpoints
are different than yours, and and resulted in I guess, uh,
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each of you eliminating the value of your vote was
was in effect compromised by the vote of something. Maybe
that's what it is down deep. They think that somehow
their vote is more important. I don't think so. I
don't think so. Let me go to Rick in North Reading. Rick,
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you were next on nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Hey, Hey Dan, how are you good?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Sir?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Good?
Speaker 7 (23:34):
Uh, yeah, you're doing well great, Thanks thanks for asking. Yeah,
I just want to talk a little bit about what
happened over the weekend. I was actually gathering with my friends, right,
and apparently we're talking about the conversa Kamala and uh,
I don't actually remember who exactly that I voted for.
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But I did hear a lot of my friends there's
super upset for trom winning election and all that, and.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
You don't waste you don't remember who you voted for.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
Yeah, because we're wearing Massachusett, right because regardless, it's always
going to be a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So oh, no questions about that. But I would think
you still would remember who you vote. But that's okay.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Maybe I do remember.
Speaker 7 (24:19):
I do remember I voted no to question two though,
That's what I do remember.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Okay, so that was important to you. Okay, fine, so
so go ahead, continue to stro. I didn't mean to
interrupt your go ahead?
Speaker 7 (24:31):
Yeah, right, right? Uh so I think they so a
lot of my friends, I would say a majority of
my friend there are Harris supporter, right And to me myself,
I'm more like independent, I would say. And I do
understand where they're coming from. And I do have a
lot of other friends that are supporting Trumba, and I
(24:52):
do understand where they're coming from. And I think in
this country, even though what people may have different political
point of view, but we can still be friends. It's
just that when we're talking about instead of debating or
being angry, we're just we're just chat about what's going
to happen to our life. What are some of implications
(25:13):
from that? And to me, I feel like what we
really should do is to keep whatever we have in common,
and we embrace that, and we just leave whatever we have,
whatever the differences we have, to ourselves. That's how I feel, Yeah, myself,
(25:35):
And go ahead.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I said, I wish more people felt like like you felt.
You said that you're an immigrant. What country did you
come here from? If I could ask?
Speaker 6 (25:46):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (25:46):
From China? So what happened? Yeah? What happened in China
is that you don't actually have a freedom to speech, right.
You can't really.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Unless you're a party member, that's for sure.
Speaker 7 (26:02):
Yeah. Yeah, and you basically you don't actually have your
freedom to express whatever the politic or idea you have.
And what I'm hoping for is that we don't turn
the country I'm living in right now to the countries
that I moved out of.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
How difficult was it for you to get out of China?
I'm just curious.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
It wasn't hard for me though, because I came here
as a college student, and I got a job after graduation,
get a green card, and get married here and all that,
it wasn't that hard. But right now, nowadays, it will
be pretty hard for a lot of people to get
her legally. It's really hard to get a visa.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I haven't I haven't talked to many people who have
gotten out of China. So I'm going to take advantage
of the opportunity. I assume you have family. If you're
recently out of college, I assume you still have family
back in China.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Now I'll be out of college for over ten years.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Tell you, well, I considered that pretty recent wreck. To
be honest with, It's okay. If I told you what
year I got out of college, you'd be stunned. But
I assume you must have family back in China. Parents,
I do, Siblings.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
I do, I do, I do have a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Okay, now, are you able to go back for a
visit or do you fear going back for a visit?
You would have problems getting.
Speaker 7 (27:27):
Out, so so going back and visiting them it was
totally fine. It's just that especially lazily from time to time.
What happened was that sometimes when I was FaceTime my
friends or my family member back in China, right and
we're using a FaceTime and then a few days later,
(27:50):
the local cops may just give them a suppresident of saying, hey,
don't use FaceTime anymore, I can use whatever the Chinese
social apps, So that that's what happened. But just going
back there to them mostoryfying.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Wow, boy, I kind of imagine the decisions that you
had to make upon graduation, graduating from college. It had
to be very, very difficult, and you above all realize
what a great gift we have in this country. And
as some perhaps said, if we lose this country to
(28:26):
either the right or the left, where where will the
people who are fall out of favor? Where will they go?
You know? I mean there's there's people from all over
the world who are coming here to escape countries like
China and to escape you know, dictatorships, whether it's you know,
(28:46):
in Latin America rather you know, in Cuba, or or
or in Latin America or in other you know, I mean,
there are people you can't even get out of North Korea.
I mean, that's that's worse than China. Even so, welcome, welcome.
I I hope you're on your path to citizenship.
Speaker 7 (29:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I am actually so good for you.
Good for you well, yeah, and also just one more
common before I hand out, because I really have to go.
I think when I'm when I when I first came
to the United States, I heard a lot about this
mentality of no judgment, right, and so to me, the
(29:28):
the no judgments really to try to well, I guess
for me, it's rude to understand whatever the decision people
make that I don't actually understand. If you make a
decision that I actually don't understand, if you have a
point of view that I really don't understand, I'll leave
it to yourself because I believe you, as a grown,
(29:48):
grown man or grown adult, you have your your room mentality, right,
instead of just trying to argue that's what I'm thinking, Yeah, No.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I think that's you know, I would and I don't
understand someone's circumstances or that's why I asked you what
it was like, because I don't get an opportunity to
ask someone like you who have had the courage to
stay here, uh and and and leave behind what you
have known. That's a difficult that's a difficult decision for
(30:20):
anyone to make. So I just want to stay welcome,
and this is your first time call on my show.
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Uh no, that's for my second time.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Okay, well you come buy more frequently, okay, Rick, that
would be that would be great. Well, all right, did
you get a round of applause the first time? Uh?
Speaker 7 (30:43):
I think I did.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
I think we give round of applause the first time calls.
I want to make sure that that you got to
get round of applause and come on back many times.
I really appreciate you listening, and I really enjoyed the conversation.
Thank you much.
Speaker 7 (30:57):
All right right, thank you, have a good one.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Have a great night, Rick, congratulations. That's it. That's it.
That's the type of call that that you can only
do and talk radio. Meaning he's as honest as the
day is long, and all of us should have been
able to take a lesson there. Okay, I got some
quiet lines here what they don't like. So I'm going
to basically give the numbers real slowly here six one, seven, two, five,
(31:22):
four ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. The question is all of us, well most
of us, hopefully all of us, but most of us
will be at a family gathering. I mean, I know
there will be some people who will still be alone. Unfortunately,
if there is someone who lives near you who's truly alone,
make sure they're incorporated, bring them, bring them with you,
(31:43):
or or invite them to wherever you're going, or if
you're hosting someone, there should always be room for one more.
We're all Americans and it doesn't matter. Feel free to
follow that advice. But call give me a call. I'd
love to know. Should politics be off the table on Thanksgiving?
(32:06):
I think it's healthy for us to understand that, hey,
you voted for someone different than me, but you still
remember my family. We're still friends or we're neighbors, and
those votes probably cancel each other out. So what doesn't matter.
It really doesn't matter, and you don't have to hold
(32:27):
entity against people with whom you disagree politically. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten
thirty Back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Let's go gonna go to Mark, Mark, you were next
on Nightside. Thanks you again, thanks.
Speaker 8 (32:51):
For taking my call. I voted for Kamala Harris for president,
but I have a good friend, a neighbor who voted
for Donald Trump, And from the beginning, I've taken the
attitude that he was entitled to his opinion and that
I was glad he was a voting period. Since the election,
(33:17):
his out of town family have pretty much ostracized him,
I mean, give him a real, real hard time for
voting for Trump, and hinted broadly that since he lives
pretty much entirely on disability benefits, that he shouldn't be
(33:39):
allowed to vote at all, and might not. I mean,
I thought we took care of that issue with the
Voting Rights Act of nineteen sixty five.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, you're right in the money on
this one. And again, you're a Harris supporter. I know
that you're very much a Democrat, and I think.
Speaker 8 (34:03):
Though you've heard my criticism of the Democratic Party establishment
on the elite is a missue. The content evans for
money and all that, and I think you can't hear me,
but I was very sad to hear what my friend's
(34:26):
family had done to him, or tried to do to him.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well, I agree with you, and I hope that you
support your friend. And you know what, by being good
to your friend, maybe he will realize that there's people
on both sides of the equation, both sides of the isle,
and your proof of that that are decent human beings.
And I thank you for your call mark as always.
Thank you.
Speaker 8 (34:49):
Okay, thank you, great call.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
Mark, great call Thank you so much. Jamie is in Worcester. Jamie,
you're next on Nightsig go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (34:57):
Hey Dan, how are you doing.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I'm doing fine, Jamie, you go ahead. What's your thoughts
on this issue we've tried to open up tonight.
Speaker 9 (35:06):
Well, I got a brother that actually worked for on
on the on the side for Joe Biden. He was
she was her. He was her which we call it
planner because he does planning for hotels and stuff and
(35:29):
restaurants and stuff. So he met the daughter somehow and
they got a job and he became her itinerary planner.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
So he became I just want to make sure I
follow this. He became the itinerary planner for Joe Biden's daughter.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
Well, she met Joe Biden's daughter and helped her with
some promotion, and she introduced him to Joe Biden, and
all of a sudden he became Joe Biden's like a
itenerary planner. Like they went to the Olympics and he
planned that and.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Oh okay, fine, okay, yep, okay, And again, how is
this person related to you? And know I missed that
part of you. Oh he's my brother, your brother, Okay, great?
Well good. So so he's he's had access to the
White House. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Ye.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
So the four years and Trump was in office, he
was vicious to me and my father because you know,
we were Trump supporters, and every day he was sending
me messages on my phone saying this and that whatever.
But anyways, so Trump won this election and me and
my dad probably supported Trump even though he wanted us
(36:48):
to support Harris, of course. Yeah, and so we're still
Every Thanksgiving we go to Provincetown to visit him, and
it's he has a house down there, and we all
go down there. We spend a couple of days and stuff.
So it's still on, which I was surprised. I was
wondering if it was canceled. But it wasn't canceled. So
(37:12):
we're going on. But I'm like, no, I don't think
we're gonna bring up the topic of Trump, you know,
like I'm just gonna keep quiet and hope he hasn't
like sending any shop comments back at me about it.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
You know, yeah, yeah, it kind of a difficult spot
to be in because obviously you're a guest at your
brother's place. I would hope you know, again, as I
said before, you know, but if people are sore losers,
that doesn't set a great example. You know. But and
also you don't you don't want to be a bad winner.
So if it does come up, big, be magnanimous, say
(37:48):
something like, uh, well maybe Harris will get elected next time.
That's probably not gonna happen. But you know, I.
Speaker 9 (37:56):
Go down, I go down to privatize because my father's
he is, Oh, we can't drive down there, so I have.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
To tell yeah, oh no, take it. You know what,
you don't know how many thanksgivings you're gonna have with
your dad, and for that matter, you don't know how
many thanksgivings you're gonna have with your brother, So enjoy
the day. If if politics comes up, I'd be prepared
and I'd say, look, you know, we were lucky, we won.
Uh let's see what he can do and who knows. Maybe, yeah,
(38:24):
just you're.
Speaker 9 (38:24):
Gonna me like, you know, you voted, but Trump you
didn't thing, and he's like trying gotta take me on it.
I'm like, I'm gonna play dumb, like a just voted
for what I thought was the best candy.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
That's a good thing. Yeah, that I exercised. I I
believe that the democracy. I believe in democracy, and and
I I don't have to tell anyone who I voted for.
Remember there were the ads where they were encouraging women,
you know, you know, the you know, you don't have
to tell your husband who you vote for. As it
turned out, I think it was fifty two percent of
women voted for Donald Trump. So right, you know, keep
(38:59):
some of those statistics in the back of your mind. Jamie,
this is your first time calling.
Speaker 9 (39:03):
No, no, yeah, it's my first time.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
I've got all you on and flaws. Now what I
want you is become a regular caller. Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 8 (39:13):
I know.
Speaker 9 (39:13):
I listen to you every time I got to work.
I work at a package store, so I get out
late night and I have you you on my radio.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Any night, any night. You could check us out on
our podcast too, if some of the earlier hours you
might miss. You can follow us on Facebook or follow
me on Twitter. Or whatever you want. And there's a
lot of great programming you're missing while you're working, so
you can always listen to it the next day. Think
about that.
Speaker 9 (39:38):
Yeah, no, I know that it's great, and I just
enjoy your show. I found you on my phone on
my radio because I get out at eleven o'clock at night.
I'm looking at for something on the radio and I
just found you and I like you.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
So I like you too, Jamie. Have a great Thanksgiving
and say give our best to your dad and your brother. Okay,
that will really drive him crazy. Thanks man, tell too soon.
We went a little Thanks Jamie went a little long there,
but we'll be back. Feel free fill these phone lines up.
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