November 21, 2024 • 38 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we thought you need to know about!
Worcester Man to Embark on Four-Day, 154-mile Run Across MA to Support Hospitalized Children During Holidays. Our first guest was Dave Filar - 33-year-old diagnosed with Crohn’s disease in fifth grade - is a footwear designer known for his work with The Museum of Fine Arts, David Ortiz’s Children’s Fund, and Shawn Thornton’s Foundation.
Veteran Suicide rate emphasizes the importance of Face the Fight’s efforts to reduce veteran suicide. Patrick Murphy - former congressman and undersecretary of the U.S. Army & Face the Fight honorary committee chairman checked in with Dan.
The latest skincare trend: Beef fat. Yes, beef fat. Is it good for your skin? Dr. Danielle Dubin – Dermatologist with Mount Sinai had the answer for us!
Jim Montgomery’s message wasn’t getting through. But a big part of the Bruins’ problem is the roster. With Kevin Paul Dupont – Boston Globe Sports Writer.
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
Worcester Man to Embark on Four-Day, 154-mile Run Across MA to Support Hospitalized Children During Holidays. Our first guest was Dave Filar - 33-year-old diagnosed with Crohn’s disease in fifth grade - is a footwear designer known for his work with The Museum of Fine Arts, David Ortiz’s Children’s Fund, and Shawn Thornton’s Foundation.
Veteran Suicide rate emphasizes the importance of Face the Fight’s efforts to reduce veteran suicide. Patrick Murphy - former congressman and undersecretary of the U.S. Army & Face the Fight honorary committee chairman checked in with Dan.
The latest skincare trend: Beef fat. Yes, beef fat. Is it good for your skin? Dr. Danielle Dubin – Dermatologist with Mount Sinai had the answer for us!
Jim Montgomery’s message wasn’t getting through. But a big part of the Bruins’ problem is the roster. With Kevin Paul Dupont – Boston Globe Sports Writer.
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
It's Night Side with Dan Rey on De Busy, Boston's
news Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Thank you very much to call lots going on tonight.
But first things first, I want to give a big
shout out to two regular night Side listeners and in
Jane in Hyde Park. They live up in the Fairmount
section of Hyde Park, and bumped into one of these
lovely ladies today and it's a mother and daughter who
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listened to Night's every night. And I just can't tell
you how much I appreciate all of our listeners, but
particularly those who I bump into and say nice things
and how much they enjoyed the show. And I and Jane,
I hope will put a good show on for you tonight,
and thank you so much for your loyalty to Night's Side.
And I don't have to tell the world how I
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bumped into one of you today, but it was a
very pleasant experience, very pleasant dental experience. Let's put it
like that. I think people will know what I mean.
I'm delighted, how I'm terrified at the dentist goes way back, folk,
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This is like childhood memories. I'm sure some of you
can identify. But I have finally found a great dentist
and a great team with that office. And Ian and Jane,
thank you so much for being part of the night
side team. So having said that, I'm going to tell
you what we're going to do tonight the show that
you're going to hear. We're going to talk with the
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executive director of the MBTA Advisory Board tonight at nine
o'clock about what's going on with the MBTA. And there's
a little bit of good news with the tea. Normally
we and to be pretty critical of the tea. But
let's see what we come up with tonight. And then
later on tonight, beginning at ten o'clock, we'll talk about
the weird nomination of Matt Gates. President Trump now has
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given a second nominee an opportunity to be considered the
former attorney general of the state of Florida. My nominee
would have been, as I said the other day, former
Assistant Attorney General in the Bush administration, Bush forty three,
John U Professor John Yue of UC Berkeley. Great guy.
I know him very well. Tough as nail, smart as
a whip, and I was communicating with him this afternoon.
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I think, I Pam BONDI might be wonderful. I get it,
but John, you would have been spectacular in my opinion.
So we'll get to all of that a little bit
later on. Let me welcome Rob Brooks, who does, as
always a fine job back in the control room for us.
He'll set you up with phone calls after nine o'clock
and in the meantime we're going to go to the
Nightside News Update, which is the recent about a year
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and a half now tradition of Nightside. And we will
start off tonight. And I got all of my notes here,
and we'll have everything in front of me and we'll
be and we will be all set. Going to start
off with a gentleman who is attempting and I certainly
think he will be successful. Walking across the Commonwealth of
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Massachusetts' name is Dave Philar Dave. I always want to
make sure I pronounce people's names correctly. Have I come
close to you? I hope? Fullar Okay, well we've changed
it a little bit. Full Are First of all, congratulations
on this this effort. It's for a great cause. Uh
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And when is it going to happen? Because I don't
think that this is going to get any better between
now and May. Here in Neuiga, what are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So we're gonna attempt, starting next Friday, November twenty ninth,
to run across the state of Massachusetts. It's about one
hundred and fifty four miles over the span of four days,
hopefully finishing on December second, Monday, December second.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And we're doing this pretty ambitious. That's pretty ambitious. So
forgive me for having said it was a walk. I
was thinking of the state auditors walk. This is run.
So you've been trying to click off about forty miles
a day, that's right? WHOA, what's what is? You got
a great cause here? Though again you've designer standed been
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dealing with some medical conditions, not anything that's going to
be totally debilitating, but kind of what I would consider
to be a serious disease. You're thirty three year old guy,
and you you're a footwear designer designed to stand that.
You tie it all together because you've done design work
for the Museum of Fine Arts, David Ortiz Children Fund,
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and Sean Thornton's Foundation, former Bruin player. How does this
all come together? Give us the big picture I have?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
First and foremost, I appreciate your time and I appreciate
you allowing me some space to share the story on
your show, So thank you very much. But yeah, it
really just it comes from twofold right. The first is
I think as we grow and get older, we develop
a perspective of how you know, our adolescent years can
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really shape form, inspire and develop our mindset for many,
many years to come. And so our goal is to
raise fifteen thousand dollars for UMass Memorial Children's Medical Center
here in western Massachusetts. It's where I reside, and so
they're a local hospital. They treat a number of children
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from time all the way to youth teens, and so
I figured this is a great opportunity to give back.
You know, no child wants to spend the holidays in
a hospital. And so if we can raise some funds
to buy children's toys and bring smiles to the kids' faces,
I think that's a really beautiful thing. And then you mentioned, yeah,
you know, growing up, I was diagnosed with Crone's disease.
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I was in and out of hospitals in different medical
centers growing up. And while today it's it's under control
because I've learned a lot about my diet and a
lot about fitness and all these other great things, you know,
it did form a perspective for me and how important
our health is. And so this run is something to
my knowledge and limited research, because it's not really well documented.
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I'll probably be the third or fourth person to attempt
this feat all the way from the New York border
to Boston, and so I'm just excited to document it,
to do it, and then also raise funds for an
amazing cause.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
So can folks. You must have. I'm sure you have
a website. I'd love you to share that website with
the audience so that maybe they can follow you beginning
on Friday, the day after Thanksgiving through that weekend, clicking
off forty or so miles every day. I mean, I
can't think of doing forty miles in one day, never
mind doing as in a row. And I'm in pretty
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good shape. But you know, you got the Hills of
Wooster in front of you. Boy, I'll tell you it's
gonna be. So how can folks follow you on this
and how can they help you?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
They for sure, thank you for that. You know, you
can either google my name David Falar, FI L A
R and more than more times than none, it'll come up.
But the website is just giving dot com backslash page
page backslash David dash Falar, and it'll bring you to
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the fundraise page we as I mentioned for our goal
is fifteen thousand dollars. We're at thirty two hundred dollars
right now and we're still eight days away, so I
have really high hopes that we'll be able to do it.
You know, five dollars, ten dollars, fifteen, whatever people can
give to bring, you know, a smile to the children's
faces of this holiday season. That's really that's really the goal.
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But yeah, you know social media, if you want to
follow along, I post daily videos on TikTok. It's just
under my name or on you know Instagram or you know,
the hospital has been really tremendous at supporting with their
media team and so you can either follow you mathematical
or you a mass memorial and or or myself at
David Falar.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, I'm looking at the Instagram account right now and people,
I'd advise people who are on Instagram to give it
a look, and if not, you can go to the website.
David Filo, thank you very much for what you do,
Thanks for joining us tonight, and best of luck. I
don't want to say may the force be with you,
but may the weather be with you. I hope.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I really appreciate that. Yeah, absolutelyppreciate. I appreciate your time
to thank you for the space.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Boy, you are more than welcome. Thank you for what
you do. We get back, We're to talk about another
great cause with a former congressman from Pennsylvania. I'm talking
about veteran suicide. Patrick Murphy's a former congressman, under Secretary
of the US Army. He's very much involved with FACE
the fight against veteran suicide. We'll be talking with Patrick
Murphy right after this break. This is WBZ in Boston.
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Speaker 2 (09:43):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Delighted to be joined by former United States Congressman Patrick Murphy.
He was a member of Congress from Pennsylvania for four
years from two thousand and seven to twenty eleven. And
it's a Democrat, a veteran, and I think we need
more veterans, whether they're Democrats or Republicans in Congress. Patrick Murphy,
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Welcome to Nightside. How are you Dan?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I'm doing great, buddy. I'm going to be in Boston
tomorrow at the Convention Center for the one hundred and
fourth Annual Social Studies Conference. But I love Boston and
spent a lot of time at the JFK Library, etc.
And just it's good to be on your show, pal.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, my pleasure. That is for sure. We're going to
talk about the fight against veterans suicide. I've heard the
number that sticks in my mind as we lose anywhere
between twenty or twenty two veterans to suicide every day.
Is that true?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
That's true on for joy and since nine eleven, since
our nature was attacked, then we've lost over one hundred
and twenty five thousand for my brother and sister veterans
and it is preventable. Dan, we got to do better,
and that's why I'm chairing the Space to Fight initiative
as a private center of that initiative. But you know,
we got to break the stigma that mental health is
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just as important as your piscal health.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
No no question about it. And one of the things
that we've talked about up here not to get into
the politics of this, I promise you, is that we've
had a lot of conversation about how migrants are finding
shelter in Massachusetts, and every time we talk about the subject,
it's invariably people come up and talk to me about
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the veterans in Massachusetts who have served the country. In
many cases, you know, suffered either physical or psychological wounds,
and some of those who are wounded psychologically don't even
want to stay in shelters and find themselves on the street.
And we're just not doing enough, not only to prevent
veteran suicide, we're not doing enough to care for the
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veterans who we have sent off to a combat situation
or or or we have you know, accepted there their
service for term of years and and and when they're out,
they're kind of out on their own. What what can
Why is it that a country that we revere veterans,
but we don't tend to to follow through with with
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any with as much support as our reverence would suggest
we should give. That's the only way I can do it.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You know. Part of it is, you know, we we
train these young Americans up to be you know, world
class warriors, and you know it takes three or four
to five six months to train them up. And then
when they're done and their term of service is over,
I mean that's pretty much it. We we give them
a week or two of transition assistants, et cetera. But
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you know, we got to do a better job at
that that warm hand off that when they go back
home the places like Boston or Cambridge or or Talkting
or wherever. Uh. You know that they're that they know
they have a job, they know that they you know,
fall back in to another tribe. And that's why, you know,
I encourage you know, when we have two hundred thousand
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active truths that become veterans every single year, I encourage
them to, Hey, you got to keep up with your
pt your physical training. You gotta go join a gym,
whether it's a CrossFit or a crunch or whatever it is, right,
just you got to you gotta, you know, do what
you can to get after it because you know, you
might not find a purpose driven life in the nine
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to five job. So you have to find a tribe.
You have to put yourself out there because Dan, as
you mentioned, our veterans are civic assets to this nation.
They want to continue to serve and as the Bible,
you know, teaches them. At the Bell Catholic you know,
we have to have a servant's heart and we have
to treat those least among us, and those veterans who've
given so much the least we could do to take
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care of them when they come home.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You know, there's a couple of groups that I'm very
much involved in one. It's called Hope for the Warriors.
A guy out of Pennsylvania like yourself, former NBA player
Jack Barron, is a big buddy of mine from begs
Uh and Jack who is a Republican. I went to
Duke and then had twelve years in the NBA and
came and went back to Duke law school. And also
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the Veterans Defense Project out of Minneapolis. I have a
friend of mine who's a US attorney, former US attorney
out there, guy by the name of Hank she who's
trying to come up with a model program. The only
two states that have this perfect what I considered not
the perfect program, but the best program for veterans who
find themselves in a little bit of difficulty legally. And
I speak as a lawyer on Nebraska in Minnesota. And
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I don't know if you're familiar with either of those projects,
but there's a lot of people out there who are
trying to help. But I wish we could get everybody
a little bit more coordinated under some similar umbrella. Do
you have you can you share that that sense or
can you can you understand what I'm saying about that?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Absolutely? And Dan, you're you're you're you're absolutely right, and
that there are too many of our brothers to veterans
that are drowning and a Steeve Goodwill. There's forty six
thousand veteran service organizations out there, right, and so that's
why we're trying to do and show people the best
in practice when it comes to our veterans' mental health.
And that's why they can visits their website we face
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to fight dot org and it's really it's private center
led effort by Reach Resilience by USAA, Buy You Man
and these patriots over Twitter partners and Elizabeth Dolt Foundation
over Twitter partners. Then people know that they can make
a difference. Go onto the website. It's free for everybody.
Go there, figure out, hey, if there's someone in need,
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if there's a veteran that's you know, question, if they
want to go on or they need some type of interaction.
It tells you the best practices, It tells you how
to get help. You know, of course there's equals down
nine eighty eight, but we want to make sure that
people know that don't get help us, don't feel there's
nothing you can do. Everybody can get involved when we
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ask less than one percent of our nation to serve.
It takes all of us to stand up and make
sure that we stand with them, shoulder or shoulder, and
live by that ethos Dan, that we leave no one behind.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah. Absolutely, from the battlefield or from the battlefield of life.
So the website is we faced fight dot com. And
the number that you mentioned is a hot is a
hotline for veterans who find themselves in trouble. Two quick
final questions. My sense is that both the parties, both
the Democrats and the Republicans, have failed out of Washington,
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d C. I don't know if you agree with that.
I know that you're a former you know, congressman, and
that's not to throw shade on people who are there.
Seth Molton is a very good friend of mine, a
colleague of yours, you know, both in wartime and and
and in the political world. Although I don't think your
terms overlapped if I recall correctly.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
No, but I helped them in the primary. I'm a
big fan of set I was just with them the
other day. I served with Joe Kennedy. It was from
you know, out there messes and yep, and I'm on
a board called homes for our troops there and tald
we've built over three hundred three homes for veterans you
know in need. Uh so listen, yeah, and I'm not
being put by I do think part of the problem
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is then, is that it used to be at World
War Two, people like JFK and George Bush said they
came back home, they ran for office, four out of
every five members of Congress were veterans. Now then it
is best than one out of every five. So that's
why I you know, I and again some of my
best friends who I serve the army with are are
Republican that are serving in Congress. You know one I
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was a professor west Plain with the bottom line is, though,
is that whether they run for office or not, we
need more veterans in office. But we all need to
step up, especially during this crisis of suicide. Death by
suicide is preventable. Please visit the website. It's called it's
you know, Face to Fight Initiative, but it's we Face
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Tofight dot org. They get joined the part. If your
company or you personally want to join us, you sign
up again. It's free. But we need to make sure
that we break that stigma that people know that there's
help out there. We support the best veteran service organizations.
They're out there that are saving lives every day. But
we all got to be part of solution. We just
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can't just pitch about it.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Well, you know, last comment, Pat, and again I commend
everything that you're trying to do. But my dad and
probably your dad or uncle came back as member the
Greatest Generation after having served. And when you think about it,
we had Harry Truman was a veteran of World War One,
Dwight Eisenhower obviously the commander of the invasion of Europe
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D Day. Then you had President Kennedy, you had Lyndon
Johnson who was a veteran, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter,
Ronald Reagan. They all served at different levels, so we
had a span of about you know, it was a
good thirty years of the Greatest Generation. And since then
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we haven't had as many veterans, certainly not the percentage
of the Greatest Generation. And that's why I hope more veterans,
both Republicans and Democrats. Democrats like yourself and the Republicans
like Eli Crane out of Arizona who have had on
the show get involved politically so that you can continue
to fight for your brothers and sisters in arms.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Positive The positive, Big Dan, is that on this national ticket,
just a couple of weeks ago, we did have two
veterans of the Vice pressure got Tim Walls and JD. Vance,
both through served honorably. Both are great American veterans. Uh.
And so that's a positive part. But I hear you, yep,
I'm with you in that fight.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And what are you doing up in Boston? Is this
an event you want to plug tomorrow? Is you're just
up here participating?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Happened to speaking? It's all the social study teachers in America,
the leaders of different departments across the country that coming
to Boston. Happens to being Boston this year it's the
Hunter Fords or at the Convention Center. I'll be speaking
from about one about one that I think two fifty five.
So I'm up on stage with Martin me and do
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I serve with it?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Now?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
He's the president U Mass he's a great American and
we'll be there. It's free for folks they want to
swing by. But you know we're talking about you know,
Civics education, about why it's important that unfortunately most of
Americans don't. They can't name three branch of government, you know,
the executive Legislative of jish Olden. It's like.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So many people, Pat, Pat they can't named their governor,
they can't named their U S. Senators, they coun't named
their congressman. Uh. It is in a state of abysmal ignorance.
And I blame a lot of the school systems having
downplayed just the concept of civics. I had a ninth
grade teacher at Boston Latin School many years ago. I've
mentioned his name before. His name was Jim Darerty, mister Daugherty.
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I got excited about this simply by by civics in
the ninth grade at Boston Land School. And when you
see me and tomorrow for me tell him. I said, hello.
He's a deer and a great and an old friend
of mine as well. Pat So. Patrick Murphy a former
a Democratic Congressman from Pennsylvania, continuing to fight military veteran
and also continuing to fight for veterans we facedthfight dot Org.
(21:04):
Pat Murphy, thank you very much, pleasure to have had
you on the show, and anytime you want to be on.
We could do an hour on this. We can do
it remotely. We can take phone calls from people all
over the country on nightside, so we'll get.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
That much right back at you.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Welcome to Boston, all right. We gonna break for the
news at the bottom of the hour. When we come back,
gonna talk with doctor Danielle Dubin about a new form
of skincare, beef fat. I'm not sure that she's a
big fan of this form of skin fair, but we'll
find skincare, but we will find out. And then at
eight forty five, the one and the only, the Great
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Kevin Paul DuPont KPD, Boston Bruins legendary Boston Globe Hockey scribe,
as he would say talking about the firing of former
Bruins coach Jim Montgomery. We'll be back on night Side
right after the break at the bottom of the hour
for the news at eight thirty.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Well, I know quite a bit about weight loss, but
I do not know too much about beef fat, which is,
as I understand it, the latest skin skincare trend. Yeah,
beef fat with me is doctor Danielle Dubin. She's a
germantologist with Mount Sinai Hospital. Doctor Duban, welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
So, beef fat, I mean, what do I do? I
take the fat off my steak and Rubert, it has
to be a little more complicated than that, tell us
about it. I'm in the dark on this one. Doctor,
I'm all.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Ears, well, it's somewhat like that, but a little bit
more refined. So beef tallow or beef fat is basically
fat that they took from whichever animal. In this case
we're talking about a caw. They melt it down, they
strain it to get out any impurities, and then they
bring it back to room temperature and you end up
with this sort of creamy substance. That's what people are
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talking about nowadays, mostly because I think there's a trend
forward natural and organic, which is why this has recently
been trending all over TikTok.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah. I guess my question would be, just because it's
so organic, how did those organic carrots work out a
week or so ago with the outbreak of E. Coli?
So is this legitimate? I'm wondering if you're here to
dispel it or to say, hey, there may be some
benefits here.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
So what I'll say about beef tallow is that it's possible.
Theoretically it has some benefits because it does have similar
properties to our own skin. It's very high in triglyceride,
vitamin ADEK, and B twelve. But the caveat being it
hasn't really been studied at all in human models. Anything
that's out there in terms of efficacy is based off
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of stories or based off of mice models. So maybe
we're onto something, but it hasn't been scientifically proven at all. Versus,
there's so many other great products out there that have
been extensively researched, natural products such as vir extra virtic,
coconut oil, sunflower seed oil, tumoric that have been studied
and those do work. The bestowle might be the next thing.
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Who knows, it just needs to be investigated more.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
So, how does something like this get off the ground without,
you know, some formal government testing and government approval. It's there,
you know some gen xer or gen Z. You know
movie star who who is pushing some some product on
a late night TV show? What's what's the story to hear,
(24:42):
you must know what's going on. I have no clue
about this one, because when I read this today, I
thought to myself, Wow.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I think that it hasn't really originated from any one
source as much as people in general wanting to have
something more natural and being able to This is some
you know, animal drive block products. But to that point
about it being natural and organic, I will say, the
only study that they have done is shown that beef
hollow is bad for the marine life. So don't put
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on the beef towel and then go out into the
ocean because you're going to hurt their beefs. But I'm
not sure where it came from. I think sometimes things
trend on TikTok. I mean, there were people who were
eating tide pots two years ago for no good reason.
So I'm not really sure where the beef tallow came from.
But it's here, and I think it's worth to be
investigated further.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, well, this is this, this article from a couple
of days ago. I think it's the Washington Post as
the latest skincare trend befat, yes, be fat, And it's
exactly what you say, beef tallow or rendered befat is
lauded on TikTok as a natural skincare treatment dermatologists say
may help soften dry skin, but it's no better than
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conventional moisturizers. I just believe there's something about that that
that kind of freaks me out. Apparently some fill some
fellow named Hunter Block founded a mollow with his wife Lauren,
and they're they're big part of the story. I had
never heard of them. When did when did this first
(26:13):
sort of catch your You follow this closer than I do?
When when do you? When? When did you first catch
this story?
Speaker 6 (26:20):
So there's been rumblings around the internet for several months,
but I think I've probably started hearing about about it
back in twenty twenty three. But it definitely gained momentums,
especially where you have these companies that are marketing in
such a way that it had the essential oils and
added to it, so it's not just like putting on
some be sat. It's like it's more cosmetically elegant, it
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smells better. So it's been picking up steam in that regard,
but I'm not sure exactly how circulating, because beef tallow
actually does a back century for being used for skincare purposes,
So it's there's nothing new under the sun.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
As they say that, that's pretty surprising. So you mean
when you say centuries, you're talking about five to a
thousand years ago people were somehow thought they know how
they figured it out or fifteen hundred or something. To me,
it's fascinating that with all of the testing sites that
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we have and so much that we have done, there's
always something new that comes along or pretends it's to
be new, but it's maybe, as you said, a derivative
of something that was used by our ancestors centuries ago.
There were dermatologists. You're a dermatologist, would you try this
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at this point or no?
Speaker 6 (27:45):
So I never say never. I would always try something.
But if I'm ever going to try something new, what
I advise myself as all my patients is that do
a test spot of it and apply it to that
test spot for seven to ten days and make sure
you don't develop any reaction. If you don't develop a reaction,
you find that it's helpful in the area that you're
using it by all means. But I will say I
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think there's much more effective treatments out there for dry
skins and when it comes to acne, I would be
very careful because there is some TikTok going around that
that is helpful for acne. But I would argue the opposite.
You're basically putting unrefined sat on the face that it's going
to block up the board even more. But every person
should do a test spot before before incorporating into their regime.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
So would you would you say test bot. I assume
you're talking about like somewhere on the inside of your forearm,
the inside of your wrist, somewhere that that is easily accessible.
And even if it does cause a little bit of
a rash, it's not going to cause a rash on
your face or in your forehead or something like that.
You're not saying you take a test.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
This one's what you're using it for. So if you're
going to be using it for general moisturizer on the body,
sure do a test spot anywhere that's not visible. But
if you're going to be using on your face, which
again I'm not sure I would recommend, I would do
a test spot on a discrete area of your because
the skin texture there is going to be more similar
out of your face.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Great, well, very helpful information. Danielle Dubin, Doctor Danielle Dubin,
thank you very much, and thank you for taking some
time tonight, you know for us. Really do appreciate it.
I learned a lot from this. I'm not going up
tomorrow and buying any beefat for myself, really honest with you,
but I probably wouldn't have bought it anyway. Thank you,
doctor Dubin. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
You're welcome. We get back on and talk a little
bit of hockey. Bruins have a new coach and interim coach,
Joe Sachel. We're going to talk with Kevin Paul DuPont.
There's nobody in Boston that knows the history of the
Bruins better than I. In my opinion that Kevin Paul
DuPont will be back right after this with more on Nightside.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Now back to Dan Way Live from the Window World
night Side Studios, i' WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Well, the Bruins have had an interesting start this hockey
scene in there about one quarter of the way through
the season, and nobody that I know of has more
insight and perspective on the original six and and their
newer and their newer playmates than the great Kevin Paul
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DuPont of the Boston Globe, Kevin, how are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Well, Dan, how are you? Great?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
To be with you? It's great to have an original
six game going on at the Garden tonight between the
Boston Bruins and the Utah Hockey Club formerly the Phoenix Coyotes. Formally,
where were they before Phoenix? I'm trying to I want to.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Well, they were Arizona and then they previous that they
were Phoenix, but before that they were Winnipeg.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yep, Okay, sure, uh, they weren't the they weren't the
California Golden Seals. That's all. No, no, So it's it's
tough to watch Montgomery get axed the other day. He
was not somebody who had been here a long time,
but he certainly had some New England roots, and it
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looked to me as if he lost the locker room.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
What do you think, Yeah, it's always difficult to tell that.
I what he's definitely lost was the ability to come
up with any answers to to you know, I hesitate
to say motivate these guys, but I'm a little reluctant
to say that he lost the room because within the
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last two weeks, they fell behind in another bad game
in his hometown, which is Saint Louis Now. They fell
behind two all after forty minutes, and then they rallied
back for three goals in the third and they won it.
So if you've packed it in on the coach, or
if you quit, it's hard, it's you know, it'd very
hard to rally back with three goals. I just think
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I think it's a confluence of reasons here, Dan, But
among them is they don't have that much talent in
the lineup. That doesn't let them off the hook for
their bad performance here over the first quarter. But it
is true, it's not a great team. And if you
you know, if you followed along, they've lost a whole
lot of talent and culture in the last few years
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with losing Rask, losing Chara, losing Bergaron, losing Kretchy. The
truth is you're not going to go out and just
replace bergeron and just replace Chara, who's really the greatest
free agent hire in the history of the game. But
they haven't replenished underneath with kids who've got some of
that talent. And that's because of poor drafting and some
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bad traits.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah, it looks like some of the signings from last
last summer or have not quite worked out. Look, Jeremy
Swayman had a holdout. How do you allow a situation
like that to develop? I mean, such a critical player
played so well even in losing last spring, look like
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the credit of Jacques Plant And yeah, I don't Probably
no one else in the audience knows who we're talking about.
We talked about Jaques Plant, but that's neither Hood Gump. Worsely,
but that's neither here nor there. What it isn't a
question of timing. I can't think it's a question of conditioning.
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What's happened to Swayman? You know, a bad baseball players
going to slumps. But this is a pretty big stump
for goaltender.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
It is, and so much of the goaltending game either.
You can talk about mechanics and technique, they're all pretty
much the same now in terms of technique, I think
more than anything with Swaymen. And this is this sounds
sort of a thin or maybe excuse, which I don't
mean it to be. But so much of the position
for a good goalie is confidence or any goalie. But
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you get a guy who's he's got legitimate tality. He's
proven that. Whether he's a franchise goalie, We're not sure.
Certainly they've paid him that money to be a friend
chide goalie. Uh and their reluctance to do that was
they were saying they weren't convinced yet. Uh So right
now it's looking like maybe they were right. He's still
got something to prove here. I think what he'll what
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will happen with Jeremy Swayman is he'll get reframed in
this reset with the coach and he'll start to gain
some confidence. That's what you would hope anyway. And I've
got enough belief having watched him these last two to
three years, I think he'll come back and start being
more that goaltender.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Have you had a chance to spend any time in
the road with these guys this year?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, and they'll be in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
You know, what what are the other what are the
other you know, writers and broadcasters around the league asking you,
because there must be some questions the sannio what's going on?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Yeah? The common the common one has been, how is
it Montgomery's fault? Given the two years he had. If
you go back two years, Danny at the best regular
season record in the history of the game, sixty five
twelve and five hit a very good last year, a
very good season last year, especially given the fact that
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that was the first year without Crazie and bergermon So
the focus really has been on, you know, where are
they in terms of talent and why should this be
Montgomery's issue? And that's legitimate when you've got a guy
who's performed that well and you look at what he
did these past two years. Part of this is this
(35:36):
is systemic. Is that what we've touched on here is
some bad trades, bad free agent signings. Is once once
you kind of solidify your team with that July one
free agency, which is a free agency period that really
lasts about six hours at most because the stop end
talent it's free gets signed. Once you come out of that,
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that's your team. You know, that's really your team until
the March trade deadline because most of these guys who
are top end players have guaranteed contracts. That's the case
with this team. No move guaranteed, no trade clauses. So again,
your maneuverability, you can play around Dan with the third
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and fourth lines and the sixth and seventh defenseman. But
big in season trades they just don't happen. What you
see is some interesting moves the trade deadline because the
six or eight or ten teams that are out of it,
they'll move some talent ahead of losing them as free agents.
And they did that here. You remember a couple of
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years ago, they went out and got half Away, They
went out and got Orloft, they went out and got Bertuzzi,
and it looked like they were loaded going into the playoffs,
and of course they got bounced in the first round
by Florida.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
It's frustrating. It's funny. I think of all the four
major sports, this is the one that is most team depends.
Meaning if you get a great pitch and that can carry.
In baseball, if you've got a great quarterbacks as we
found out here, that can go a long way. And
in basketball, if you've got a couple of real good players,
uh you can. You can surround them with some bad
some bad players. But if you have a weakness in hockey,
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the third line, fourth line, you know, second tier defense,
it's gonna it's gonna bite you every time, and that's
what makes me a little bit concerned that this team's
going to have a tough, a tough road. They may
win tonight against Utah, they're up one nothing going into
the third period, but when the better teams come in,
I wonder if they have the talent to match up.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah, your point about all parts being important or bang
on debt. You do have to have the third line,
the third line, guys, you've got to have the goaltender,
if you know. I think they did a lot here
with what I call the holy trinity of a good team,
which is franchise defenseman in Shara, franchise goalie in Rask,
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franchise center and bergeron. Not a lot of teams get those,
get the holy trinity like that. So not unlike own
of the b S O.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
You know, yes, everyone focuses on the on the great violins,
right and uh, you know what what else would you
what do you focus on? But the truth of it
is you still have to have the fat guy in
back who plays the tuba and that makes the concert too.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
And what about the guy with the triangle that would
have been that would have been my instrument if I
was in the B s O. That's that's that's critical too, Kevin.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Great Christmas pops where the guy in the back plays
those clapper.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Things critical critical, Kevin. Great to catch up with you.
I miss seeing you at the rink because I'm doing
this nighttime talk show here and we'll we'll have to
catch up. You're one of the great guys in this business.
Hall of fame writer, uh and observer of a great game. Thanks, thanks,
my friend. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Okay, very nice, Dan, thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You're very welcome. Thanks Kevin, talk soon we get back.
We're going to talk about something that is also a
much maligned to organization, that's the MBTA, and we will
get after it. I promise you. We're going to be
talking with the executive director of the MBTA Advisory Board,
a very important person, Brian Kin, right after the nine
o'clock news here on night Side
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
Thank you very much to call lots going on tonight.
But first things first, I want to give a big
shout out to two regular night Side listeners and in
Jane in Hyde Park. They live up in the Fairmount
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you how much I appreciate all of our listeners, but
particularly those who I bump into and say nice things
and how much they enjoyed the show. And I and Jane,
I hope will put a good show on for you tonight,
and thank you so much for your loyalty to Night's Side.
And I don't have to tell the world how I
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bumped into one of you today, but it was a
very pleasant experience, very pleasant dental experience. Let's put it
like that. I think people will know what I mean.
I'm delighted, how I'm terrified at the dentist goes way back, folk,
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This is like childhood memories. I'm sure some of you
can identify. But I have finally found a great dentist
and a great team with that office. And Ian and Jane,
thank you so much for being part of the night
side team. So having said that, I'm going to tell
you what we're going to do tonight the show that
you're going to hear. We're going to talk with the
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executive director of the MBTA Advisory Board tonight at nine
o'clock about what's going on with the MBTA. And there's
a little bit of good news with the tea. Normally
we and to be pretty critical of the tea. But
let's see what we come up with tonight. And then
later on tonight, beginning at ten o'clock, we'll talk about
the weird nomination of Matt Gates. President Trump now has
(02:23):
given a second nominee an opportunity to be considered the
former attorney general of the state of Florida. My nominee
would have been, as I said the other day, former
Assistant Attorney General in the Bush administration, Bush forty three,
John U Professor John Yue of UC Berkeley. Great guy.
I know him very well. Tough as nail, smart as
a whip, and I was communicating with him this afternoon.
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I think, I Pam BONDI might be wonderful. I get it,
but John, you would have been spectacular in my opinion.
So we'll get to all of that a little bit
later on. Let me welcome Rob Brooks, who does, as
always a fine job back in the control room for us.
He'll set you up with phone calls after nine o'clock
and in the meantime we're going to go to the
Nightside News Update, which is the recent about a year
(03:11):
and a half now tradition of Nightside. And we will
start off tonight. And I got all of my notes here,
and we'll have everything in front of me and we'll
be and we will be all set. Going to start
off with a gentleman who is attempting and I certainly
think he will be successful. Walking across the Commonwealth of
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Massachusetts' name is Dave Philar Dave. I always want to
make sure I pronounce people's names correctly. Have I come
close to you? I hope? Fullar Okay, well we've changed
it a little bit. Full Are First of all, congratulations
on this this effort. It's for a great cause. Uh
(03:55):
And when is it going to happen? Because I don't
think that this is going to get any better between
now and May. Here in Neuiga, what are we talking about?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
So we're gonna attempt, starting next Friday, November twenty ninth,
to run across the state of Massachusetts. It's about one
hundred and fifty four miles over the span of four days,
hopefully finishing on December second, Monday, December second.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
And we're doing this pretty ambitious. That's pretty ambitious. So
forgive me for having said it was a walk. I
was thinking of the state auditors walk. This is run.
So you've been trying to click off about forty miles
a day, that's right? WHOA, what's what is? You got
a great cause here? Though again you've designer standed been
(04:45):
dealing with some medical conditions, not anything that's going to
be totally debilitating, but kind of what I would consider
to be a serious disease. You're thirty three year old guy,
and you you're a footwear designer designed to stand that.
You tie it all together because you've done design work
for the Museum of Fine Arts, David Ortiz Children Fund,
(05:06):
and Sean Thornton's Foundation, former Bruin player. How does this
all come together? Give us the big picture I have?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
First and foremost, I appreciate your time and I appreciate
you allowing me some space to share the story on
your show, So thank you very much. But yeah, it
really just it comes from twofold right. The first is
I think as we grow and get older, we develop
a perspective of how you know, our adolescent years can
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really shape form, inspire and develop our mindset for many,
many years to come. And so our goal is to
raise fifteen thousand dollars for UMass Memorial Children's Medical Center
here in western Massachusetts. It's where I reside, and so
they're a local hospital. They treat a number of children
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from time all the way to youth teens, and so
I figured this is a great opportunity to give back.
You know, no child wants to spend the holidays in
a hospital. And so if we can raise some funds
to buy children's toys and bring smiles to the kids' faces,
I think that's a really beautiful thing. And then you mentioned, yeah,
you know, growing up, I was diagnosed with Crone's disease.
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I was in and out of hospitals in different medical
centers growing up. And while today it's it's under control
because I've learned a lot about my diet and a
lot about fitness and all these other great things, you know,
it did form a perspective for me and how important
our health is. And so this run is something to
my knowledge and limited research, because it's not really well documented.
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I'll probably be the third or fourth person to attempt
this feat all the way from the New York border
to Boston, and so I'm just excited to document it,
to do it, and then also raise funds for an
amazing cause.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
So can folks. You must have. I'm sure you have
a website. I'd love you to share that website with
the audience so that maybe they can follow you beginning
on Friday, the day after Thanksgiving through that weekend, clicking
off forty or so miles every day. I mean, I
can't think of doing forty miles in one day, never
mind doing as in a row. And I'm in pretty
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good shape. But you know, you got the Hills of
Wooster in front of you. Boy, I'll tell you it's
gonna be. So how can folks follow you on this
and how can they help you?
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:32):
They for sure, thank you for that. You know, you
can either google my name David Falar, FI L A
R and more than more times than none, it'll come up.
But the website is just giving dot com backslash page
page backslash David dash Falar, and it'll bring you to
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the fundraise page we as I mentioned for our goal
is fifteen thousand dollars. We're at thirty two hundred dollars
right now and we're still eight days away, so I
have really high hopes that we'll be able to do it.
You know, five dollars, ten dollars, fifteen, whatever people can
give to bring, you know, a smile to the children's
faces of this holiday season. That's really that's really the goal.
(08:16):
But yeah, you know social media, if you want to
follow along, I post daily videos on TikTok. It's just
under my name or on you know Instagram or you know,
the hospital has been really tremendous at supporting with their
media team and so you can either follow you mathematical
or you a mass memorial and or or myself at
David Falar.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, I'm looking at the Instagram account right now and people,
I'd advise people who are on Instagram to give it
a look, and if not, you can go to the website.
David Filo, thank you very much for what you do,
Thanks for joining us tonight, and best of luck. I
don't want to say may the force be with you,
but may the weather be with you. I hope.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
I really appreciate that. Yeah, absolutelyppreciate. I appreciate your time
to thank you for the space.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Boy, you are more than welcome. Thank you for what
you do. We get back, We're to talk about another
great cause with a former congressman from Pennsylvania. I'm talking
about veteran suicide. Patrick Murphy's a former congressman, under Secretary
of the US Army. He's very much involved with FACE
the fight against veteran suicide. We'll be talking with Patrick
Murphy right after this break. This is WBZ in Boston.
(09:22):
If you just happen to be picking us up on
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AM dial. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside. We'll
be back right after this.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Delighted to be joined by former United States Congressman Patrick Murphy.
He was a member of Congress from Pennsylvania for four
years from two thousand and seven to twenty eleven. And
it's a Democrat, a veteran, and I think we need
more veterans, whether they're Democrats or Republicans in Congress. Patrick Murphy,
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Welcome to Nightside. How are you Dan?
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I'm doing great, buddy. I'm going to be in Boston
tomorrow at the Convention Center for the one hundred and
fourth Annual Social Studies Conference. But I love Boston and
spent a lot of time at the JFK Library, etc.
And just it's good to be on your show, pal.
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well, my pleasure. That is for sure. We're going to
talk about the fight against veterans suicide. I've heard the
number that sticks in my mind as we lose anywhere
between twenty or twenty two veterans to suicide every day.
Is that true?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
That's true on for joy and since nine eleven, since
our nature was attacked, then we've lost over one hundred
and twenty five thousand for my brother and sister veterans
and it is preventable. Dan, we got to do better,
and that's why I'm chairing the Space to Fight initiative
as a private center of that initiative. But you know,
we got to break the stigma that mental health is
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just as important as your piscal health.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
No no question about it. And one of the things
that we've talked about up here not to get into
the politics of this, I promise you, is that we've
had a lot of conversation about how migrants are finding
shelter in Massachusetts, and every time we talk about the subject,
it's invariably people come up and talk to me about
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the veterans in Massachusetts who have served the country. In
many cases, you know, suffered either physical or psychological wounds,
and some of those who are wounded psychologically don't even
want to stay in shelters and find themselves on the street.
And we're just not doing enough, not only to prevent
veteran suicide, we're not doing enough to care for the
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veterans who we have sent off to a combat situation
or or or we have you know, accepted there their
service for term of years and and and when they're out,
they're kind of out on their own. What what can
Why is it that a country that we revere veterans,
but we don't tend to to follow through with with
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any with as much support as our reverence would suggest
we should give. That's the only way I can do it.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You know. Part of it is, you know, we we
train these young Americans up to be you know, world
class warriors, and you know it takes three or four
to five six months to train them up. And then
when they're done and their term of service is over,
I mean that's pretty much it. We we give them
a week or two of transition assistants, et cetera. But
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you know, we got to do a better job at
that that warm hand off that when they go back
home the places like Boston or Cambridge or or Talkting
or wherever. Uh. You know that they're that they know
they have a job, they know that they you know,
fall back in to another tribe. And that's why, you know,
I encourage you know, when we have two hundred thousand
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active truths that become veterans every single year, I encourage
them to, Hey, you got to keep up with your
pt your physical training. You gotta go join a gym,
whether it's a CrossFit or a crunch or whatever it is, right,
just you got to you gotta, you know, do what
you can to get after it because you know, you
might not find a purpose driven life in the nine
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to five job. So you have to find a tribe.
You have to put yourself out there because Dan, as
you mentioned, our veterans are civic assets to this nation.
They want to continue to serve and as the Bible,
you know, teaches them. At the Bell Catholic you know,
we have to have a servant's heart and we have
to treat those least among us, and those veterans who've
given so much the least we could do to take
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care of them when they come home.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
You know, there's a couple of groups that I'm very
much involved in one. It's called Hope for the Warriors.
A guy out of Pennsylvania like yourself, former NBA player
Jack Barron, is a big buddy of mine from begs
Uh and Jack who is a Republican. I went to
Duke and then had twelve years in the NBA and
came and went back to Duke law school. And also
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the Veterans Defense Project out of Minneapolis. I have a
friend of mine who's a US attorney, former US attorney
out there, guy by the name of Hank she who's
trying to come up with a model program. The only
two states that have this perfect what I considered not
the perfect program, but the best program for veterans who
find themselves in a little bit of difficulty legally. And
I speak as a lawyer on Nebraska in Minnesota. And
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I don't know if you're familiar with either of those projects,
but there's a lot of people out there who are
trying to help. But I wish we could get everybody
a little bit more coordinated under some similar umbrella. Do
you have you can you share that that sense or
can you can you understand what I'm saying about that?
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Absolutely? And Dan, you're you're you're you're absolutely right, and
that there are too many of our brothers to veterans
that are drowning and a Steeve Goodwill. There's forty six
thousand veteran service organizations out there, right, and so that's
why we're trying to do and show people the best
in practice when it comes to our veterans' mental health.
And that's why they can visits their website we face
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to fight dot org and it's really it's private center
led effort by Reach Resilience by USAA, Buy You Man
and these patriots over Twitter partners and Elizabeth Dolt Foundation
over Twitter partners. Then people know that they can make
a difference. Go onto the website. It's free for everybody.
Go there, figure out, hey, if there's someone in need,
(15:35):
if there's a veteran that's you know, question, if they
want to go on or they need some type of interaction.
It tells you the best practices, It tells you how
to get help. You know, of course there's equals down
nine eighty eight, but we want to make sure that
people know that don't get help us, don't feel there's
nothing you can do. Everybody can get involved when we
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ask less than one percent of our nation to serve.
It takes all of us to stand up and make
sure that we stand with them, shoulder or shoulder, and
live by that ethos Dan, that we leave no one behind.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah. Absolutely, from the battlefield or from the battlefield of life.
So the website is we faced fight dot com. And
the number that you mentioned is a hot is a
hotline for veterans who find themselves in trouble. Two quick
final questions. My sense is that both the parties, both
the Democrats and the Republicans, have failed out of Washington,
(16:30):
d C. I don't know if you agree with that.
I know that you're a former you know, congressman, and
that's not to throw shade on people who are there.
Seth Molton is a very good friend of mine, a
colleague of yours, you know, both in wartime and and
and in the political world. Although I don't think your
terms overlapped if I recall correctly.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
No, but I helped them in the primary. I'm a
big fan of set I was just with them the
other day. I served with Joe Kennedy. It was from
you know, out there messes and yep, and I'm on
a board called homes for our troops there and tald
we've built over three hundred three homes for veterans you
know in need. Uh so listen, yeah, and I'm not
being put by I do think part of the problem
(17:13):
is then, is that it used to be at World
War Two, people like JFK and George Bush said they
came back home, they ran for office, four out of
every five members of Congress were veterans. Now then it
is best than one out of every five. So that's
why I you know, I and again some of my
best friends who I serve the army with are are
Republican that are serving in Congress. You know one I
(17:33):
was a professor west Plain with the bottom line is, though,
is that whether they run for office or not, we
need more veterans in office. But we all need to
step up, especially during this crisis of suicide. Death by
suicide is preventable. Please visit the website. It's called it's
you know, Face to Fight Initiative, but it's we Face
(17:53):
Tofight dot org. They get joined the part. If your
company or you personally want to join us, you sign
up again. It's free. But we need to make sure
that we break that stigma that people know that there's
help out there. We support the best veteran service organizations.
They're out there that are saving lives every day. But
we all got to be part of solution. We just
(18:14):
can't just pitch about it.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Well, you know, last comment, Pat, and again I commend
everything that you're trying to do. But my dad and
probably your dad or uncle came back as member the
Greatest Generation after having served. And when you think about it,
we had Harry Truman was a veteran of World War One,
Dwight Eisenhower obviously the commander of the invasion of Europe
(18:37):
D Day. Then you had President Kennedy, you had Lyndon
Johnson who was a veteran, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter,
Ronald Reagan. They all served at different levels, so we
had a span of about you know, it was a
good thirty years of the Greatest Generation. And since then
(18:58):
we haven't had as many veterans, certainly not the percentage
of the Greatest Generation. And that's why I hope more veterans,
both Republicans and Democrats. Democrats like yourself and the Republicans
like Eli Crane out of Arizona who have had on
the show get involved politically so that you can continue
to fight for your brothers and sisters in arms.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Positive The positive, Big Dan, is that on this national ticket,
just a couple of weeks ago, we did have two
veterans of the Vice pressure got Tim Walls and JD. Vance,
both through served honorably. Both are great American veterans. Uh.
And so that's a positive part. But I hear you, yep,
I'm with you in that fight.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
And what are you doing up in Boston? Is this
an event you want to plug tomorrow? Is you're just
up here participating?
Speaker 5 (19:40):
Happened to speaking? It's all the social study teachers in America,
the leaders of different departments across the country that coming
to Boston. Happens to being Boston this year it's the
Hunter Fords or at the Convention Center. I'll be speaking
from about one about one that I think two fifty five.
So I'm up on stage with Martin me and do
(20:01):
I serve with it?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Now?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
He's the president U Mass he's a great American and
we'll be there. It's free for folks they want to
swing by. But you know we're talking about you know,
Civics education, about why it's important that unfortunately most of
Americans don't. They can't name three branch of government, you know,
the executive Legislative of jish Olden. It's like.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
So many people, Pat, Pat they can't named their governor,
they can't named their U S. Senators, they coun't named
their congressman. Uh. It is in a state of abysmal ignorance.
And I blame a lot of the school systems having
downplayed just the concept of civics. I had a ninth
grade teacher at Boston Latin School many years ago. I've
mentioned his name before. His name was Jim Darerty, mister Daugherty.
(20:43):
I got excited about this simply by by civics in
the ninth grade at Boston Land School. And when you
see me and tomorrow for me tell him. I said, hello.
He's a deer and a great and an old friend
of mine as well. Pat So. Patrick Murphy a former
a Democratic Congressman from Pennsylvania, continuing to fight military veteran
and also continuing to fight for veterans we facedthfight dot Org.
(21:04):
Pat Murphy, thank you very much, pleasure to have had
you on the show, and anytime you want to be on.
We could do an hour on this. We can do
it remotely. We can take phone calls from people all
over the country on nightside, so we'll get.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
That much right back at you.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Welcome to Boston, all right. We gonna break for the
news at the bottom of the hour. When we come back,
gonna talk with doctor Danielle Dubin about a new form
of skincare, beef fat. I'm not sure that she's a
big fan of this form of skin fair, but we'll
find skincare, but we will find out. And then at
eight forty five, the one and the only, the Great
(21:44):
Kevin Paul DuPont KPD, Boston Bruins legendary Boston Globe Hockey scribe,
as he would say talking about the firing of former
Bruins coach Jim Montgomery. We'll be back on night Side
right after the break at the bottom of the hour
for the news at eight thirty.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Well, I know quite a bit about weight loss, but
I do not know too much about beef fat, which is,
as I understand it, the latest skin skincare trend. Yeah,
beef fat with me is doctor Danielle Dubin. She's a
germantologist with Mount Sinai Hospital. Doctor Duban, welcome to Nightside.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
So, beef fat, I mean, what do I do? I
take the fat off my steak and Rubert, it has
to be a little more complicated than that, tell us
about it. I'm in the dark on this one. Doctor,
I'm all.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
Ears, well, it's somewhat like that, but a little bit
more refined. So beef tallow or beef fat is basically
fat that they took from whichever animal. In this case
we're talking about a caw. They melt it down, they
strain it to get out any impurities, and then they
bring it back to room temperature and you end up
with this sort of creamy substance. That's what people are
(23:09):
talking about nowadays, mostly because I think there's a trend
forward natural and organic, which is why this has recently
been trending all over TikTok.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Yeah. I guess my question would be, just because it's
so organic, how did those organic carrots work out a
week or so ago with the outbreak of E. Coli?
So is this legitimate? I'm wondering if you're here to
dispel it or to say, hey, there may be some
benefits here.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
So what I'll say about beef tallow is that it's possible.
Theoretically it has some benefits because it does have similar
properties to our own skin. It's very high in triglyceride,
vitamin ADEK, and B twelve. But the caveat being it
hasn't really been studied at all in human models. Anything
that's out there in terms of efficacy is based off
(23:58):
of stories or based off of mice models. So maybe
we're onto something, but it hasn't been scientifically proven at all. Versus,
there's so many other great products out there that have
been extensively researched, natural products such as vir extra virtic,
coconut oil, sunflower seed oil, tumoric that have been studied
and those do work. The bestowle might be the next thing.
(24:18):
Who knows, it just needs to be investigated more.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
So, how does something like this get off the ground without,
you know, some formal government testing and government approval. It's there,
you know some gen xer or gen Z. You know
movie star who who is pushing some some product on
a late night TV show? What's what's the story to hear,
(24:42):
you must know what's going on. I have no clue
about this one, because when I read this today, I
thought to myself, Wow.
Speaker 6 (24:52):
I think that it hasn't really originated from any one
source as much as people in general wanting to have
something more natural and being able to This is some
you know, animal drive block products. But to that point
about it being natural and organic, I will say, the
only study that they have done is shown that beef
hollow is bad for the marine life. So don't put
(25:13):
on the beef towel and then go out into the
ocean because you're going to hurt their beefs. But I'm
not sure where it came from. I think sometimes things
trend on TikTok. I mean, there were people who were
eating tide pots two years ago for no good reason.
So I'm not really sure where the beef tallow came from.
But it's here, and I think it's worth to be
investigated further.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yeah, well, this is this, this article from a couple
of days ago. I think it's the Washington Post as
the latest skincare trend befat, yes, be fat, And it's
exactly what you say, beef tallow or rendered befat is
lauded on TikTok as a natural skincare treatment dermatologists say
may help soften dry skin, but it's no better than
(25:52):
conventional moisturizers. I just believe there's something about that that
that kind of freaks me out. Apparently some fill some
fellow named Hunter Block founded a mollow with his wife Lauren,
and they're they're big part of the story. I had
never heard of them. When did when did this first
(26:13):
sort of catch your You follow this closer than I do?
When when do you? When? When did you first catch
this story?
Speaker 6 (26:20):
So there's been rumblings around the internet for several months,
but I think I've probably started hearing about about it
back in twenty twenty three. But it definitely gained momentums,
especially where you have these companies that are marketing in
such a way that it had the essential oils and
added to it, so it's not just like putting on
some be sat. It's like it's more cosmetically elegant, it
(26:43):
smells better. So it's been picking up steam in that regard,
but I'm not sure exactly how circulating, because beef tallow
actually does a back century for being used for skincare purposes,
So it's there's nothing new under the sun.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
As they say that, that's pretty surprising. So you mean
when you say centuries, you're talking about five to a
thousand years ago people were somehow thought they know how
they figured it out or fifteen hundred or something. To me,
it's fascinating that with all of the testing sites that
(27:22):
we have and so much that we have done, there's
always something new that comes along or pretends it's to
be new, but it's maybe, as you said, a derivative
of something that was used by our ancestors centuries ago.
There were dermatologists. You're a dermatologist, would you try this
(27:42):
at this point or no?
Speaker 6 (27:45):
So I never say never. I would always try something.
But if I'm ever going to try something new, what
I advise myself as all my patients is that do
a test spot of it and apply it to that
test spot for seven to ten days and make sure
you don't develop any reaction. If you don't develop a reaction,
you find that it's helpful in the area that you're
using it by all means. But I will say I
(28:05):
think there's much more effective treatments out there for dry
skins and when it comes to acne, I would be
very careful because there is some TikTok going around that
that is helpful for acne. But I would argue the opposite.
You're basically putting unrefined sat on the face that it's going
to block up the board even more. But every person
should do a test spot before before incorporating into their regime.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
So would you would you say test bot. I assume
you're talking about like somewhere on the inside of your forearm,
the inside of your wrist, somewhere that that is easily accessible.
And even if it does cause a little bit of
a rash, it's not going to cause a rash on
your face or in your forehead or something like that.
You're not saying you take a test.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
This one's what you're using it for. So if you're
going to be using it for general moisturizer on the body,
sure do a test spot anywhere that's not visible. But
if you're going to be using on your face, which
again I'm not sure I would recommend, I would do
a test spot on a discrete area of your because
the skin texture there is going to be more similar
out of your face.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Great, well, very helpful information. Danielle Dubin, Doctor Danielle Dubin,
thank you very much, and thank you for taking some
time tonight, you know for us. Really do appreciate it.
I learned a lot from this. I'm not going up
tomorrow and buying any beefat for myself, really honest with you,
but I probably wouldn't have bought it anyway. Thank you,
doctor Dubin. Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (29:25):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
You're welcome. We get back on and talk a little
bit of hockey. Bruins have a new coach and interim coach,
Joe Sachel. We're going to talk with Kevin Paul DuPont.
There's nobody in Boston that knows the history of the
Bruins better than I. In my opinion that Kevin Paul
DuPont will be back right after this with more on Nightside.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Now back to Dan Way Live from the Window World
night Side Studios, i' WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Well, the Bruins have had an interesting start this hockey
scene in there about one quarter of the way through
the season, and nobody that I know of has more
insight and perspective on the original six and and their
newer and their newer playmates than the great Kevin Paul
(30:15):
DuPont of the Boston Globe, Kevin, how are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Well, Dan, how are you? Great?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
To be with you? It's great to have an original
six game going on at the Garden tonight between the
Boston Bruins and the Utah Hockey Club formerly the Phoenix Coyotes. Formally,
where were they before Phoenix? I'm trying to I want to.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Well, they were Arizona and then they previous that they
were Phoenix, but before that they were Winnipeg.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yep, Okay, sure, uh, they weren't the they weren't the
California Golden Seals. That's all. No, no, So it's it's
tough to watch Montgomery get axed the other day. He
was not somebody who had been here a long time,
but he certainly had some New England roots, and it
(31:04):
looked to me as if he lost the locker room.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
What do you think, Yeah, it's always difficult to tell that.
I what he's definitely lost was the ability to come
up with any answers to to you know, I hesitate
to say motivate these guys, but I'm a little reluctant
to say that he lost the room because within the
(31:28):
last two weeks, they fell behind in another bad game
in his hometown, which is Saint Louis Now. They fell
behind two all after forty minutes, and then they rallied
back for three goals in the third and they won it.
So if you've packed it in on the coach, or
if you quit, it's hard, it's you know, it'd very
hard to rally back with three goals. I just think
(31:50):
I think it's a confluence of reasons here, Dan, But
among them is they don't have that much talent in
the lineup. That doesn't let them off the hook for
their bad performance here over the first quarter. But it
is true, it's not a great team. And if you
you know, if you followed along, they've lost a whole
lot of talent and culture in the last few years
(32:12):
with losing Rask, losing Chara, losing Bergaron, losing Kretchy. The
truth is you're not going to go out and just
replace bergeron and just replace Chara, who's really the greatest
free agent hire in the history of the game. But
they haven't replenished underneath with kids who've got some of
that talent. And that's because of poor drafting and some
(32:35):
bad traits.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Yeah, it looks like some of the signings from last
last summer or have not quite worked out. Look, Jeremy
Swayman had a holdout. How do you allow a situation
like that to develop? I mean, such a critical player
played so well even in losing last spring, look like
(32:59):
the credit of Jacques Plant And yeah, I don't Probably
no one else in the audience knows who we're talking about.
We talked about Jaques Plant, but that's neither Hood Gump. Worsely,
but that's neither here nor there. What it isn't a
question of timing. I can't think it's a question of conditioning.
(33:21):
What's happened to Swayman? You know, a bad baseball players
going to slumps. But this is a pretty big stump
for goaltender.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
It is, and so much of the goaltending game either.
You can talk about mechanics and technique, they're all pretty
much the same now in terms of technique, I think
more than anything with Swaymen. And this is this sounds
sort of a thin or maybe excuse, which I don't
mean it to be. But so much of the position
for a good goalie is confidence or any goalie. But
(33:50):
you get a guy who's he's got legitimate tality. He's
proven that. Whether he's a franchise goalie, We're not sure.
Certainly they've paid him that money to be a friend
chide goalie. Uh and their reluctance to do that was
they were saying they weren't convinced yet. Uh So right
now it's looking like maybe they were right. He's still
got something to prove here. I think what he'll what
(34:14):
will happen with Jeremy Swayman is he'll get reframed in
this reset with the coach and he'll start to gain
some confidence. That's what you would hope anyway. And I've
got enough belief having watched him these last two to
three years, I think he'll come back and start being
more that goaltender.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Have you had a chance to spend any time in
the road with these guys this year?
Speaker 5 (34:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yeah, yeah, and they'll be in Detroit.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
You know, what what are the other what are the
other you know, writers and broadcasters around the league asking you,
because there must be some questions the sannio what's going on?
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Yeah? The common the common one has been, how is
it Montgomery's fault? Given the two years he had. If
you go back two years, Danny at the best regular
season record in the history of the game, sixty five
twelve and five hit a very good last year, a
very good season last year, especially given the fact that
(35:12):
that was the first year without Crazie and bergermon So
the focus really has been on, you know, where are
they in terms of talent and why should this be
Montgomery's issue? And that's legitimate when you've got a guy
who's performed that well and you look at what he
did these past two years. Part of this is this
(35:36):
is systemic. Is that what we've touched on here is
some bad trades, bad free agent signings. Is once once
you kind of solidify your team with that July one
free agency, which is a free agency period that really
lasts about six hours at most because the stop end
talent it's free gets signed. Once you come out of that,
(36:00):
that's your team. You know, that's really your team until
the March trade deadline because most of these guys who
are top end players have guaranteed contracts. That's the case
with this team. No move guaranteed, no trade clauses. So again,
your maneuverability, you can play around Dan with the third
(36:21):
and fourth lines and the sixth and seventh defenseman. But
big in season trades they just don't happen. What you
see is some interesting moves the trade deadline because the
six or eight or ten teams that are out of it,
they'll move some talent ahead of losing them as free agents.
And they did that here. You remember a couple of
(36:41):
years ago, they went out and got half Away, They
went out and got Orloft, they went out and got Bertuzzi,
and it looked like they were loaded going into the playoffs,
and of course they got bounced in the first round
by Florida.
Speaker 3 (36:53):
It's frustrating. It's funny. I think of all the four
major sports, this is the one that is most team depends.
Meaning if you get a great pitch and that can carry.
In baseball, if you've got a great quarterbacks as we
found out here, that can go a long way. And
in basketball, if you've got a couple of real good players,
uh you can. You can surround them with some bad
some bad players. But if you have a weakness in hockey,
(37:15):
the third line, fourth line, you know, second tier defense,
it's gonna it's gonna bite you every time, and that's
what makes me a little bit concerned that this team's
going to have a tough, a tough road. They may
win tonight against Utah, they're up one nothing going into
the third period, but when the better teams come in,
I wonder if they have the talent to match up.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
Yeah, your point about all parts being important or bang
on debt. You do have to have the third line,
the third line, guys, you've got to have the goaltender,
if you know. I think they did a lot here
with what I call the holy trinity of a good team,
which is franchise defenseman in Shara, franchise goalie in Rask,
(37:57):
franchise center and bergeron. Not a lot of teams get those,
get the holy trinity like that. So not unlike own
of the b S O.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
You know, yes, everyone focuses on the on the great violins,
right and uh, you know what what else would you
what do you focus on? But the truth of it
is you still have to have the fat guy in
back who plays the tuba and that makes the concert too.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
And what about the guy with the triangle that would
have been that would have been my instrument if I
was in the B s O. That's that's that's critical too, Kevin.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Great Christmas pops where the guy in the back plays
those clapper.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Things critical critical, Kevin. Great to catch up with you.
I miss seeing you at the rink because I'm doing
this nighttime talk show here and we'll we'll have to
catch up. You're one of the great guys in this business.
Hall of fame writer, uh and observer of a great game. Thanks, thanks,
my friend. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Okay, very nice, Dan, thank you.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You're very welcome. Thanks Kevin, talk soon we get back.
We're going to talk about something that is also a
much maligned to organization, that's the MBTA, and we will
get after it. I promise you. We're going to be
talking with the executive director of the MBTA Advisory Board,
a very important person, Brian Kin, right after the nine
o'clock news here on night Side
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