December 9, 2024 • 38 mins
A person of interest has been identified in the slaying of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. 26-year-old Luigi Mangione was arrested at a McDonald’s in Pennsylvania on gun charges and is being detained for questioning in relation to the NYC murder. Mangione was found in possession of multiple fake IDs, a face mask, a firearm, and a suppressor that appeared to match those used in the shooting, and a manifesto that criticized healthcare companies for "putting profits above care.”
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when we get back, are you surprised that the Prime
Strong suspect this guy's going to be charged with the
murder of the healthcare executive.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
There's no question about this.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And by the way, the fact that his photograph was
served apparently a McDonald's. If you haven't heard the story
this person, I don't understand. The background on this guy
is he lived a charmed life, born into a wealthy family,
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went to a private school in Baltimore, was a class valedictorian,
went to the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia and Ivy
League College. Took a couple of degrees from there, including
one I think dealing with computer engineering. And the high
school that he went to. The tuition per year is
almost thirty eight thousand dollars a year, So this is
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not a poor kid. But apparently he developed some sort
of a hatred for I can only assume if indeed
he is charged with the murder for United Healthcare and
he the big question is going to be how did
he know where this CEO? What time he was going
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to be walking into this hotel? I mean he was
lurking there, he knew exactly? Did he have some inside information?
Did he make a phone call? This is the investigation
now is only going to get deeper. But he was
spotted today in a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. How about that?
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And apparently we can get through some of the more
specifics if you haven't heard the story. In the meantime,
if you'd like to call in, I'd love to talk
about it. It is I mentioned the night of the
shooting last Wednesday that hopefully this does not set a
precedent for other people who have again decided that they
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have a right to take a violence into their own
hands and administer street justice. That's what this came down to,
street justice, and a fifty year old old CEO of
United Healthcare shot in the back, dead on the streets
of Manhattan. The Police Department of New York City did
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the correct thing and releasing the photographs. This guy might
never have been found when you think about it, because
he he he got out of town pretty quickly. Here's
the number six seven thirty six one seven nine three
ten thirty. My name's Dan Ray. This is a Monday night.
I'd like to talk about this. I also want to
talk about the acquittal today of Daniel Penny in New York.
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Two very different incidents, one which clearly was murder, a
premeditated murder in the first degree. You could not have
a more premeditated murder than this one. Versus an effort
by an individual former marine to protect people on the
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subway resulted, unfortunately and tragically in the death of an
individual who was really acting out threat in a very
threatening manner. We'll get to all of it. We got
a lot to talk about. Let's get the lines going.
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Back on Nightside after this.
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Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
All right, Line's quiet. I guess everybody expected. I suggested
last week that if this was a hit orchestrated by
any powerful people, this young means might have been dead. Well,
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I was wrong on that, and I think it's pretty
clear from what we have leaned from the various news
reports today that this suspect, his name is Luigi Menngioni,
twenty six, he is what's called being called a strong suspect.
He's being held without bail tonight in Pennsylvania on a
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variety of charges, you know, dealing with possession of a handgun.
Apparently it was a gun that was one of these
guns that you could that you could make electronically, what
they call a ghost gun. That apparently the silencer that
he had so much trouble with that day also has
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been a problem. By way of background, they say this
young man of well, he was he was born into
a into a wealthy family. Not a family that came
over on the Mayflower, but a family that that in
the mid twentieth century basically worked hard.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
And they they they were successful, and so this twenty
six year old benefited, benefited from the fruits of the
labor of other people.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
He went to a school called the Gilman School in Baltimore.
Supposedly was a an athlete with a keen interest in
developing video games. Well, his wasn't a video game. His
was was the real thing. He's the valedictorian of his
graduating class. He according to this According to the New
York Times article by Corey killed gannon as individual grew
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up in Marylan and graduated from private high school in Baltimore.
Went on to University of Pennsylvania. He was a member
of the Phi Kappa phi Psi fraternity and Eta Kappaneu.
I was never a member of any of those groups,
an academic honor society for students at Electrical and Computer Engineering,
and graduated with both a bachelor's degree and a master's
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degree in engineering. Stanford University confirmed that there was a
person with this name. It's not a common name. Luigi
Mengioni worked as a head counselor in its pre collegiate
Studies program in twenty nineteen. It's just it's amazing that
people of great wealth of families. There's a book review
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site that this guy apparently reposted content from a handful
of well known writers and academics, many of whom focus
on self improvement or negative health consequences of modern consumption,
on this website.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Good Reads.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Earlier this year, he gave four stars to Industrial Society
and its Future, better known as the Unibomber Manifesto by
Ted Kazinski and described the writer as a mathematics prodigy.
He wrote, he was a violent individual, rightfully imprisoned, who
maimed innocent people. Mister Maggioni wrote in his review, while
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these actions tend to be characterized as those of a
crazy ludite, however, they are more accurately seen as those
of an extreme political revolutionary. No kidding, tell me something
I don't know. Anyway, I'm glad he's caught. He obviously
is someone who has to be removed from society, in
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my opinion, for the rest of his life. There's no
way that what he did to someone who was a
total stranger. This was not a crime of passion. This
was not a barroom fight in which someone threw a
punch and someone fell and hit his head. Oh, this
was a cold, calculated murder. He staked us this location out,
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he planned his escape, and then today apparently when the
police approached him and asked him if he had been
to New York recently. And by the way, hats off
to the McDonald's employee, there's been a good month for
McDonald's that had Donald Trump there of pushing putting more
fries into the into the French fry containers. And now
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they have a McDonald's employee who should get the sixty
thousand dollars reward. He figured out this was the guy,
And the New York Times article said that what I
believe was the New York Times article said that, well,
one of them said that when the police approached him
in this McDonald's a little after nine o'clock this morning,
most of us were just starting our day, his freedom
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was ending. He should never see the light of freedom
for what he did.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
In my opinion.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Uh, and I say hats off to the McDonald's employee,
and hats off to the police for having the courage
to First of all, the dog had work to find
a photograph of him in which he could be identified.
I'm to some extent surprised he wasn't spotted before this.
I just think that were they know, no one at
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Stanford that watches television news that would have said, hey,
that guy worked here sixty six seven ninety. My name's
Dan Ray. This is nights Side. Come on, folks, let's
like these lines up back right after this. Let me
know your thoughts on it. And the sad part about
it is what a waste of two lives, two lives,
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the life of the gentleman the press scident, the CEO,
I should say, the CEO of United Healthcare, who now
leaves a widow and two children without a dad, and
the waste of this guy's life twenty six years old.
He will probably be able to spend the next sixty
years or so in prison if he doesn't kill himself.
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Back on Nightside after.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
This, You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w
b Z, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Let's go to the phones. Since this this gentleman who
is the strong suspect, and I suspect he will eventually
be charged with the murder of the gentleman Brian Thompson,
the head of the CEO of United Healthcare. Let's go
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to Baltimore, to Maryland more generally, my friend Theodore, Theodore,
welcome back to Knights Aid.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Oh good? I like to commend the actions and the
work of the police agencies in the rapidity with which
they caught this gentleman. He comes from a family that
started the Larean healthcare system. Here they own a resort
and they own WCBM radio station. If you ever tuned
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into then you'd hear one a Nick MANGIONI. I think
he's a delegate also who comes on and they are
like the other station, way to the right. But that's
his background. They're rich people, one of the richest, if
not the richest family in the state of Maryland. And
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I just think he just had I don't know he
had the fresh reded he let the wrong spirit move him,
but he would just all that talent. And if you
ever saw the end of a movie called The Bronx Tale,
Have you ever seen that? I don't know. If you have,
you know.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Something I certainly am aware of. It was that the
story about the boxer.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
No no Bronch Tail. Robert de Niro plays a bus
driver his son. They lived right down the street from
a marble hangout and the and the thing about it
the true story in part as he's walking away at
the end of the story after going to see the gangster,
he says, Sonny, the gangster told me a true thing.
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The saddest thing in life is way to tell it now.
The young man who played that role, he was in
Crimson Tide. He was on his way up, but he
got hooked up with the x Cohn. They broke into
somebody's house and the ex Cohn shot the death of
retired police officer and that guy his career just went,
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just went for Bleueie. That this guy had everything on
the ball, the best schools, he was intelligent. God blessed
him with a great brain, and all the money in
the world, all the money in the world will not
bring him out. And the thing about it is, you know,
I haven't heard them mention this on the news the
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other stations, and the news will say his family owns
a local station, and I wonder, I guess the embarrassment.
Why don't they say the station that they own.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, you just said it on my show, and of
course that's fine with me. I read it. I am understanding.
It's not as if they owned WBL or you know,
one of the major stations. This sounds like it's a
relatively small radio station. How big is it is it
in terms of how many watts? Or is it an
AM FM station?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Tell us about it's an AM station. It's one of
the biggest. I think both they and wore like the
physical fifty thousand watch they have all the people on there.
Rush Limbaugh's one there.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
John rush Limbaugh may have been on there, but rush
Limbaugh's not on there anymore, as I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Oh no, no. But if you want to hear basically
the complete encyclopedia of those on the right, you can
listen to that station they have.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, I must tell you that everything that apparently that
I've heard about this guy's manifesto, at least that was
reported on the network newscast tonight, apparently he had. He
had a three page manifesto, and the police in New
York made.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Some comments on it.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
As a matter of fact, if I can, if I
can pull one of the soundbites here just to give
all of us a little sense of this. Let me
see here, let's see he has in the possession of
a ghost gun and a suppressor.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Okay, and.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
This is the chief of Detectives, New York Police Chief
Joseph Kenny. And let me just play this real quickly
for your theater and for the audience. Cut twenty six rob.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
That document is currently in the possession of the Outunea
Police Department as part of their investigation. But just from
briefly speaking with them, we don't think that there's any
specific threats to other people mentioned in that document, but
it does seem that he has some some ill will
towards corporate America.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
So this is a guy who was blessed, I guess,
to be in a family that had a lot of money,
and yet his ill will seems to almost be self
directed towards directed towards other companies and businesses like his
successful parents.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yes, psychologists.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Psychologists would have a field day with something like that. Theater,
go ahead, It didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Interrupt you go ahead, I'm sorry. He reminds me when
I had a security job many many years ago, and
I was much younger at the NSA building, and these
guys were super intelligent. But you know, it's like they'd
come in with two socks, two different sof drissed nicely
but not unmaged. People were brilliant. We thought they were
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a bit off because they were so immersed in the
murder gave him.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
The other the other thing too, is that when you
look at the way this murder was carried out. This
this was he was there for ten days, he was
staking everything out. This just you could not have a
more premeditated murder than this one, and he also was
a coward.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I mean he shot the guy.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
The guys unarmed. You know, if if he went to
that meeting that the guy was going to speak at
that day and took a swing at the guy because
he was so upset with whatever, you know, United Healthcare,
you'd say, well, he's a nut job. But at least
you know this guy. How much of a coward you
have to be to shoot someone at in the morning
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in the back exactly? You read my mind theater, that's the.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Worst thing I'll code with this, Dan and for the
Second Amendment, because I've had I've been training like that.
But I'm gonna tell you the worst thing, too much freedom.
This government allows a ghost gun that can be produced
on a three D printer that you can buy. That's outrageous,
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and I just hope they do something to out to
ban it, take it off the internet, because they are
almost undetectable.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well that this certainly would have been undetectable if this
kid had thrown that ghost gun away. It's interesting he
must this guy is obviously for someone to do something like.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
This, Theodore.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You know, you and I aren't psychiatrists, nor do we
want to play when I radio.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
But this guy's pretty messed up. Pretty messed up.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Uh And hopefully the good police work that's been done
so far will continue and we'll get the final story.
But the bottom line is based upon what he did.
There's no way to apologize this. There's no one to say, gee,
I was a mistake. I really am sorry what I did.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Uh uh uh.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
This he's a dead man walking shift that simple.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Exactly well said Theodore is always. Thank you much for
your call. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
We'll talk soon if I don't have a chance to.
But I don't have a chance to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I assume you celebrate Christmas, yes, and you celebrate Kwansa
as well or.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
No, well, no, not not much. Just you know, I
observe I was kind of observed it in a way
by that most of the just the regular normal Christmas
that I grew up with.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Well, merry Christmas, and if you do celebrate some Kwanza,
happy Kwansa too.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Okay, Thank you very much, have a good night.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Thanks Theodore, talk to you soon. Have a great one.
Good night. All right.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
We'll continue six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty
couple lines there and one line at six one seven,
nine thirty. Look, uh, really good police work here. This guy,
uh thought he had committed the crime and he would
gone to Altoona, Pennsylvania. I think they said that he
had a lot of asked with him. A lot of
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this stuff's gonna come out, and initially you'll get conflicting information.
So I'm trying to be as discreet as I possibly
can on this this situation, but I want to hear
from you. I'm relieved to know that this guy has
been caught as quickly as he has. Maybe maybe that
will discourage any uh you wannabes from from doing exactly
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what he did. Outrageous, outrageous, It shocks everyone. I saw
today that we're putting up all sorts of fencing around
the corporate headquarters out in many out in Minnesota of
United Healthcare. Look, a lot of these insurance companies, they're
not the most consumer friendly companies in the world. And
a lot of us have had disappointments and and have frustrations.
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And I've had frustrations just like you have, just like
this guy has. But it doesn't give me or you
or him the right to go and murder someone. At
six forty five in the morning by shooting him. That
person in the back a coward, a coward, and someone
whose mind was developed for all the wrong reasons. We'll
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come right back here on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
New York Times reports when Altoona police officers responded to
a tip from a local McDonald's, they found Luigi Mangioni
sitting at a table with a laptop and wearing a
blue medical mask. According to a criminal complaint, an officer
asked him to pull down his mask and recognized him
as the suspect from the New York shooting. When an
officer asked Mangioni if he had been to New York recently,
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he became quiet and started to shake, police officers wrote
in a complaint, and he's been charged with five crimes
in Pennsylvania, including carrying a gun without a license, forgery,
falsely identifying himself to the authorities, and possessing instruments of crime,
according to a newly released criminal complaint. Today in New
York cut number twenty four coming up. New York Police
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Commissioner Jessica Tish announced the arrest again. He has not
been arrested yet for the murder.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
He will be, in.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
My opinion, arrested and charged with the murder, but he
is being held in Pennsylvania, and New York authorities are there.
I'm sure they want to get him back to New
York as soon as possible. Cut number twenty four Roub.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Earlier this morning, in Altoona, Pennsylvania, members of the Altoona
Police Department arrested Luigi Mangioni, a twenty six year old
mail on firearms charges. At this time, he is believed
to be our person of interest in the brazen targeted
murder of Brian Thompson, CEO of United Healthcare last Wednesday
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in midtown Manhattan. The suspect was in a McDonald's and
was recognized by an employee, who then called local police.
Responding officers questioned the suspect, who was acting suspiciously and
was carrying multiple fraudulent IDs as well as a US passport.
Upon further investigation, officers recovered a firearm on his person,
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as well as a suppressor, both consistent with the weapon
used in the murder. They also recovered clothing, including a
mask consistent with those worn by our wanted individual. Also
recovered was a fraudulent New Jersey ID matching the ID
our suspect used to check into his New York City
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hostel before the shooting incident. Additionally, officers recovered a handwritten
document that speaks to both his motivation and mindset.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Talk about a tight case. Let me go to Mark
in Mulburn. Mark, you're next door nightside, Go right ahead, No,
we dropped Mark off. Okay, sorry, Mark called back.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
We get you on.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Let me go next to Terry on the KP. Terry
next on Nightsiger, right.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Ahead, Hi, Dan, My hugs and begs to that McDonald's employees.
It speaks to the most important thing. If you see something,
say something, and help get these horrible monsters off the street.
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That individual deserves every single penny of every single rewards
money available. He also deserves a huge check from United
Healthcare in my opinion, and kudos to him because he
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probably prevented other people that are innocent from being killed.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Aage I.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Saying, Terry, I think the last point you just made
is a good one. That this guy still had the gun,
He still had the silencer. He apparently recording one article
I read and again all of this will come out
in court. Had thousands of dollars in cash, which would
have allowed him to travel wherever he wanted to, and
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he might have. Maybe they'll find out that he had
other targets in mind. So I just think whoever that
employee was, and thank goodness that the New York Police
Department spread the word and got the word out with
the photograph. I gotta be honest with you, I'm thinking
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to myself, Okay, the shooting was last Wednesday, and today
is what five days later, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
Normally that's pretty good police work, and this was very
good police work. Obviously they had to get the photographs,
et cetera. But once that photograph came out with the
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mask down, I thought to myself, either this guy is
either going.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
To be got to be popped or killed.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
If there's anybody else who was who was funding what
he did, you know, if there was someone else who
had a motive to get Thompson and they convinced this
kid to do the deed, or I just I was
surprised that it went that long once the photograph came out.
I mean, if if someone put your photograph on like
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a wanted poster that that got had as much publicity
as this case.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
You know, the old days used to.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Go into and that had the FBI wanted posters in
post offices, and you look at them and you say,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
They all look the same to me.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
You know, they're all you know, guys and whatever they
wanted for this, wanted for that. I just thought they're
on a crime as high profile as this. That the
fact that he was able to walk around for at
least a couple of days after the photograph of him
with the mass down was publicized, I'm thinking to myself,
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did nobody recognize this guy? You know, glad they got
a day sooner?
Speaker 8 (35:16):
Were they so scared? They were scared that they didn't
speak up. Of course they knew who he was, but
they didn't make a call. What does that say? But
you know, I have another question that I can't figure out.
I am really puzzled by this. They're saying he's a loner.
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You know, I'm not convinced of that, because he puked
a electric schooner by a tree in New York City
and left it that would have been going in less
than four minutes.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
If he was from it was was it an electric
scooter or a bicycle?
Speaker 8 (36:01):
It was an electric something. I heard scooter, I heard bicycle. Whatever.
It was a very expensive thing that was high powered
and went quickly.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Okay, yeah, I haven't seen that, Terry.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Not forgive that. Whatever that was, it wasn't stolen instantly.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Well that's that doesn't say much about New York City.
But I understand the point.
Speaker 9 (36:27):
You, well, no, I'll.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Try to track that down.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
He clearly couldn't have fit that in his backpack.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Oh, it wasn't in his backpack. He had it at
the end of the alleyway. He walked out, walked right
down that alleyway. He had it all and he was
small enough to drive through Central Park. So they lost
track of him. But somehow, someway they figured out where
he had stayed, and they h.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
He did deep clues, There's no question about that. But
that made me wonder was he diverting people away from
something else that was happening elsewhere that they didn't know about.
I always wonder about those things.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I think that that was the big that was the
big story, the tragic story of that week, And just
think of you know, how many people who might have
planned to go to New York said, you guess what,
you know, I don't think I need to go to
New York.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I'm going to try going to New Haven.
Speaker 9 (37:25):
Or Albany exactly. Oh yeah, yeah, no, I get that. Anyway,
I think the McDonald's employee should have a day of
celebration for him, well for him or her.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
We still don't know who it was, so it could
be her as well. Thanks Terry, I got a run.
Here comes the eleven o'clock news. Talk to you soon.
We're coming back. I want to talk about this if
you want to get into the Daniel Penny case in
New York as well, two very high profile crimes. They
both came to a conclusion of sorts. Today we can
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and again the titles are just a slightly different. Bill
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Grant Goslin, Dean of Undergraduate Admission and Financial Aid at
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That is something that is you know, very important, particularly
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and the essay and the versus the acts. There are
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And we talked about community service local versus international. And
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I think the bottom line and I think that both
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your children want. You know, are they looking to, you know,
for school that they want to have a career in
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when we get back, are you surprised that the Prime
Strong suspect this guy's going to be charged with the
murder of the healthcare executive.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
There's no question about this.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
And by the way, the fact that his photograph was
served apparently a McDonald's. If you haven't heard the story
this person, I don't understand. The background on this guy
is he lived a charmed life, born into a wealthy family,
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went to a private school in Baltimore, was a class valedictorian,
went to the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia and Ivy
League College. Took a couple of degrees from there, including
one I think dealing with computer engineering. And the high
school that he went to. The tuition per year is
almost thirty eight thousand dollars a year, So this is
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not a poor kid. But apparently he developed some sort
of a hatred for I can only assume if indeed
he is charged with the murder for United Healthcare and
he the big question is going to be how did
he know where this CEO? What time he was going
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to be walking into this hotel? I mean he was
lurking there, he knew exactly? Did he have some inside information?
Did he make a phone call? This is the investigation
now is only going to get deeper. But he was
spotted today in a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. How about that?
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And apparently we can get through some of the more
specifics if you haven't heard the story. In the meantime,
if you'd like to call in, I'd love to talk
about it. It is I mentioned the night of the
shooting last Wednesday that hopefully this does not set a
precedent for other people who have again decided that they
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have a right to take a violence into their own
hands and administer street justice. That's what this came down to,
street justice, and a fifty year old old CEO of
United Healthcare shot in the back, dead on the streets
of Manhattan. The Police Department of New York City did
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the correct thing and releasing the photographs. This guy might
never have been found when you think about it, because
he he he got out of town pretty quickly. Here's
the number six seven thirty six one seven nine three
ten thirty. My name's Dan Ray. This is a Monday night.
I'd like to talk about this. I also want to
talk about the acquittal today of Daniel Penny in New York.
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Two very different incidents, one which clearly was murder, a
premeditated murder in the first degree. You could not have
a more premeditated murder than this one. Versus an effort
by an individual former marine to protect people on the
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subway resulted, unfortunately and tragically in the death of an
individual who was really acting out threat in a very
threatening manner. We'll get to all of it. We got
a lot to talk about. Let's get the lines going.
Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty. My name is Dan Ray. This is Nightside again.
My thanks to Bill fitz Simmons of Harvard and Grant Gostlin.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
And Boston College.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
If you knew the amount of time they were working
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Speaker 3 (12:32):
Back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
All right, Line's quiet. I guess everybody expected. I suggested
last week that if this was a hit orchestrated by
any powerful people, this young means might have been dead. Well,
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I was wrong on that, and I think it's pretty
clear from what we have leaned from the various news
reports today that this suspect, his name is Luigi Menngioni,
twenty six, he is what's called being called a strong suspect.
He's being held without bail tonight in Pennsylvania on a
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variety of charges, you know, dealing with possession of a handgun.
Apparently it was a gun that was one of these
guns that you could that you could make electronically, what
they call a ghost gun. That apparently the silencer that
he had so much trouble with that day also has
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been a problem. By way of background, they say this
young man of well, he was he was born into
a into a wealthy family. Not a family that came
over on the Mayflower, but a family that that in
the mid twentieth century basically worked hard.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
And they they they were successful, and so this twenty
six year old benefited, benefited from the fruits of the
labor of other people.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
He went to a school called the Gilman School in Baltimore.
Supposedly was a an athlete with a keen interest in
developing video games. Well, his wasn't a video game. His
was was the real thing. He's the valedictorian of his
graduating class. He according to this According to the New
York Times article by Corey killed gannon as individual grew
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up in Marylan and graduated from private high school in Baltimore.
Went on to University of Pennsylvania. He was a member
of the Phi Kappa phi Psi fraternity and Eta Kappaneu.
I was never a member of any of those groups,
an academic honor society for students at Electrical and Computer Engineering,
and graduated with both a bachelor's degree and a master's
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degree in engineering. Stanford University confirmed that there was a
person with this name. It's not a common name. Luigi
Mengioni worked as a head counselor in its pre collegiate
Studies program in twenty nineteen. It's just it's amazing that
people of great wealth of families. There's a book review
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site that this guy apparently reposted content from a handful
of well known writers and academics, many of whom focus
on self improvement or negative health consequences of modern consumption,
on this website.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Good Reads.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Earlier this year, he gave four stars to Industrial Society
and its Future, better known as the Unibomber Manifesto by
Ted Kazinski and described the writer as a mathematics prodigy.
He wrote, he was a violent individual, rightfully imprisoned, who
maimed innocent people. Mister Maggioni wrote in his review, while
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these actions tend to be characterized as those of a
crazy ludite, however, they are more accurately seen as those
of an extreme political revolutionary. No kidding, tell me something
I don't know. Anyway, I'm glad he's caught. He obviously
is someone who has to be removed from society, in
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my opinion, for the rest of his life. There's no
way that what he did to someone who was a
total stranger. This was not a crime of passion. This
was not a barroom fight in which someone threw a
punch and someone fell and hit his head. Oh, this
was a cold, calculated murder. He staked us this location out,
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he planned his escape, and then today apparently when the
police approached him and asked him if he had been
to New York recently. And by the way, hats off
to the McDonald's employee, there's been a good month for
McDonald's that had Donald Trump there of pushing putting more
fries into the into the French fry containers. And now
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they have a McDonald's employee who should get the sixty
thousand dollars reward. He figured out this was the guy,
And the New York Times article said that what I
believe was the New York Times article said that, well,
one of them said that when the police approached him
in this McDonald's a little after nine o'clock this morning,
most of us were just starting our day, his freedom
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was ending. He should never see the light of freedom
for what he did.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
In my opinion.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Uh, and I say hats off to the McDonald's employee,
and hats off to the police for having the courage
to First of all, the dog had work to find
a photograph of him in which he could be identified.
I'm to some extent surprised he wasn't spotted before this.
I just think that were they know, no one at
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Stanford that watches television news that would have said, hey,
that guy worked here sixty six seven ninety. My name's
Dan Ray. This is nights Side. Come on, folks, let's
like these lines up back right after this. Let me
know your thoughts on it. And the sad part about
it is what a waste of two lives, two lives,
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the life of the gentleman the press scident, the CEO,
I should say, the CEO of United Healthcare, who now
leaves a widow and two children without a dad, and
the waste of this guy's life twenty six years old.
He will probably be able to spend the next sixty
years or so in prison if he doesn't kill himself.
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Back on Nightside after.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
This, You're on night Side with Dan Ray on w
b Z, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Let's go to the phones. Since this this gentleman who
is the strong suspect, and I suspect he will eventually
be charged with the murder of the gentleman Brian Thompson,
the head of the CEO of United Healthcare. Let's go
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to Baltimore, to Maryland more generally, my friend Theodore, Theodore,
welcome back to Knights Aid.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (19:58):
Oh good? I like to commend the actions and the
work of the police agencies in the rapidity with which
they caught this gentleman. He comes from a family that
started the Larean healthcare system. Here they own a resort
and they own WCBM radio station. If you ever tuned
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into then you'd hear one a Nick MANGIONI. I think
he's a delegate also who comes on and they are
like the other station, way to the right. But that's
his background. They're rich people, one of the richest, if
not the richest family in the state of Maryland. And
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I just think he just had I don't know he
had the fresh reded he let the wrong spirit move him,
but he would just all that talent. And if you
ever saw the end of a movie called The Bronx Tale,
Have you ever seen that? I don't know. If you have,
you know.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Something I certainly am aware of. It was that the
story about the boxer.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
No no Bronch Tail. Robert de Niro plays a bus
driver his son. They lived right down the street from
a marble hangout and the and the thing about it
the true story in part as he's walking away at
the end of the story after going to see the gangster,
he says, Sonny, the gangster told me a true thing.
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The saddest thing in life is way to tell it now.
The young man who played that role, he was in
Crimson Tide. He was on his way up, but he
got hooked up with the x Cohn. They broke into
somebody's house and the ex Cohn shot the death of
retired police officer and that guy his career just went,
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just went for Bleueie. That this guy had everything on
the ball, the best schools, he was intelligent. God blessed
him with a great brain, and all the money in
the world, all the money in the world will not
bring him out. And the thing about it is, you know,
I haven't heard them mention this on the news the
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other stations, and the news will say his family owns
a local station, and I wonder, I guess the embarrassment.
Why don't they say the station that they own.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, you just said it on my show, and of
course that's fine with me. I read it. I am understanding.
It's not as if they owned WBL or you know,
one of the major stations. This sounds like it's a
relatively small radio station. How big is it is it
in terms of how many watts? Or is it an
AM FM station?
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Tell us about it's an AM station. It's one of
the biggest. I think both they and wore like the
physical fifty thousand watch they have all the people on there.
Rush Limbaugh's one there.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
John rush Limbaugh may have been on there, but rush
Limbaugh's not on there anymore, as I'm sure.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Oh no, no. But if you want to hear basically
the complete encyclopedia of those on the right, you can
listen to that station they have.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
Well, I must tell you that everything that apparently that
I've heard about this guy's manifesto, at least that was
reported on the network newscast tonight, apparently he had. He
had a three page manifesto, and the police in New
York made.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Some comments on it.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
As a matter of fact, if I can, if I
can pull one of the soundbites here just to give
all of us a little sense of this. Let me
see here, let's see he has in the possession of
a ghost gun and a suppressor.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Okay, and.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
This is the chief of Detectives, New York Police Chief
Joseph Kenny. And let me just play this real quickly
for your theater and for the audience. Cut twenty six rob.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
That document is currently in the possession of the Outunea
Police Department as part of their investigation. But just from
briefly speaking with them, we don't think that there's any
specific threats to other people mentioned in that document, but
it does seem that he has some some ill will
towards corporate America.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
So this is a guy who was blessed, I guess,
to be in a family that had a lot of money,
and yet his ill will seems to almost be self
directed towards directed towards other companies and businesses like his
successful parents.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yes, psychologists.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Psychologists would have a field day with something like that. Theater,
go ahead, It didn't.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Interrupt you go ahead, I'm sorry. He reminds me when
I had a security job many many years ago, and
I was much younger at the NSA building, and these
guys were super intelligent. But you know, it's like they'd
come in with two socks, two different sof drissed nicely
but not unmaged. People were brilliant. We thought they were
(25:09):
a bit off because they were so immersed in the
murder gave him.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Well.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
The other the other thing too, is that when you
look at the way this murder was carried out. This
this was he was there for ten days, he was
staking everything out. This just you could not have a
more premeditated murder than this one, and he also was
a coward.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
I mean he shot the guy.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
The guys unarmed. You know, if if he went to
that meeting that the guy was going to speak at
that day and took a swing at the guy because
he was so upset with whatever, you know, United Healthcare,
you'd say, well, he's a nut job. But at least
you know this guy. How much of a coward you
have to be to shoot someone at in the morning
(25:57):
in the back exactly? You read my mind theater, that's the.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Worst thing I'll code with this, Dan and for the
Second Amendment, because I've had I've been training like that.
But I'm gonna tell you the worst thing, too much freedom.
This government allows a ghost gun that can be produced
on a three D printer that you can buy. That's outrageous,
(26:23):
and I just hope they do something to out to
ban it, take it off the internet, because they are
almost undetectable.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Well that this certainly would have been undetectable if this
kid had thrown that ghost gun away. It's interesting he
must this guy is obviously for someone to do something like.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
This, Theodore.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
You know, you and I aren't psychiatrists, nor do we
want to play when I radio.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
But this guy's pretty messed up. Pretty messed up.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Uh And hopefully the good police work that's been done
so far will continue and we'll get the final story.
But the bottom line is based upon what he did.
There's no way to apologize this. There's no one to say, gee,
I was a mistake. I really am sorry what I did.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Uh uh uh.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
This he's a dead man walking shift that simple.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Exactly well said Theodore is always. Thank you much for
your call. Thank you, my friend.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
We'll talk soon if I don't have a chance to.
But I don't have a chance to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I assume you celebrate Christmas, yes, and you celebrate Kwansa
as well or.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
No, well, no, not not much. Just you know, I
observe I was kind of observed it in a way
by that most of the just the regular normal Christmas
that I grew up with.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Well, merry Christmas, and if you do celebrate some Kwanza,
happy Kwansa too.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
Okay, Thank you very much, have a good night.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Thanks Theodore, talk to you soon. Have a great one.
Good night. All right.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
We'll continue six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty
couple lines there and one line at six one seven,
nine thirty. Look, uh, really good police work here. This guy,
uh thought he had committed the crime and he would
gone to Altoona, Pennsylvania. I think they said that he
had a lot of asked with him. A lot of
(28:01):
this stuff's gonna come out, and initially you'll get conflicting information.
So I'm trying to be as discreet as I possibly
can on this this situation, but I want to hear
from you. I'm relieved to know that this guy has
been caught as quickly as he has. Maybe maybe that
will discourage any uh you wannabes from from doing exactly
(28:29):
what he did. Outrageous, outrageous, It shocks everyone. I saw
today that we're putting up all sorts of fencing around
the corporate headquarters out in many out in Minnesota of
United Healthcare. Look, a lot of these insurance companies, they're
not the most consumer friendly companies in the world. And
a lot of us have had disappointments and and have frustrations.
(28:52):
And I've had frustrations just like you have, just like
this guy has. But it doesn't give me or you
or him the right to go and murder someone. At
six forty five in the morning by shooting him. That
person in the back a coward, a coward, and someone
whose mind was developed for all the wrong reasons. We'll
(29:13):
come right back here on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
New York Times reports when Altoona police officers responded to
a tip from a local McDonald's, they found Luigi Mangioni
sitting at a table with a laptop and wearing a
blue medical mask. According to a criminal complaint, an officer
asked him to pull down his mask and recognized him
as the suspect from the New York shooting. When an
officer asked Mangioni if he had been to New York recently,
(29:45):
he became quiet and started to shake, police officers wrote
in a complaint, and he's been charged with five crimes
in Pennsylvania, including carrying a gun without a license, forgery,
falsely identifying himself to the authorities, and possessing instruments of crime,
according to a newly released criminal complaint. Today in New
York cut number twenty four coming up. New York Police
(30:06):
Commissioner Jessica Tish announced the arrest again. He has not
been arrested yet for the murder.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
He will be, in.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
My opinion, arrested and charged with the murder, but he
is being held in Pennsylvania, and New York authorities are there.
I'm sure they want to get him back to New
York as soon as possible. Cut number twenty four Roub.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
Earlier this morning, in Altoona, Pennsylvania, members of the Altoona
Police Department arrested Luigi Mangioni, a twenty six year old
mail on firearms charges. At this time, he is believed
to be our person of interest in the brazen targeted
murder of Brian Thompson, CEO of United Healthcare last Wednesday
(30:51):
in midtown Manhattan. The suspect was in a McDonald's and
was recognized by an employee, who then called local police.
Responding officers questioned the suspect, who was acting suspiciously and
was carrying multiple fraudulent IDs as well as a US passport.
Upon further investigation, officers recovered a firearm on his person,
(31:15):
as well as a suppressor, both consistent with the weapon
used in the murder. They also recovered clothing, including a
mask consistent with those worn by our wanted individual. Also
recovered was a fraudulent New Jersey ID matching the ID
our suspect used to check into his New York City
(31:37):
hostel before the shooting incident. Additionally, officers recovered a handwritten
document that speaks to both his motivation and mindset.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Talk about a tight case. Let me go to Mark
in Mulburn. Mark, you're next door nightside, Go right ahead, No,
we dropped Mark off. Okay, sorry, Mark called back.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
We get you on.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Let me go next to Terry on the KP. Terry
next on Nightsiger, right.
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Ahead, Hi, Dan, My hugs and begs to that McDonald's employees.
It speaks to the most important thing. If you see something,
say something, and help get these horrible monsters off the street.
(32:27):
That individual deserves every single penny of every single rewards
money available. He also deserves a huge check from United
Healthcare in my opinion, and kudos to him because he
(32:49):
probably prevented other people that are innocent from being killed.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Aage I.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Saying, Terry, I think the last point you just made
is a good one. That this guy still had the gun,
He still had the silencer. He apparently recording one article
I read and again all of this will come out
in court. Had thousands of dollars in cash, which would
have allowed him to travel wherever he wanted to, and
(33:21):
he might have. Maybe they'll find out that he had
other targets in mind. So I just think whoever that
employee was, and thank goodness that the New York Police
Department spread the word and got the word out with
the photograph. I gotta be honest with you, I'm thinking
(33:42):
to myself, Okay, the shooting was last Wednesday, and today
is what five days later, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.
Normally that's pretty good police work, and this was very
good police work. Obviously they had to get the photographs,
et cetera. But once that photograph came out with the
(34:04):
mask down, I thought to myself, either this guy is
either going.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
To be got to be popped or killed.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
If there's anybody else who was who was funding what
he did, you know, if there was someone else who
had a motive to get Thompson and they convinced this
kid to do the deed, or I just I was
surprised that it went that long once the photograph came out.
I mean, if if someone put your photograph on like
(34:34):
a wanted poster that that got had as much publicity
as this case.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
You know, the old days used to.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Go into and that had the FBI wanted posters in
post offices, and you look at them and you say,
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
They all look the same to me.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
You know, they're all you know, guys and whatever they
wanted for this, wanted for that. I just thought they're
on a crime as high profile as this. That the
fact that he was able to walk around for at
least a couple of days after the photograph of him
with the mass down was publicized, I'm thinking to myself,
(35:08):
did nobody recognize this guy? You know, glad they got
a day sooner?
Speaker 8 (35:16):
Were they so scared? They were scared that they didn't
speak up. Of course they knew who he was, but
they didn't make a call. What does that say? But
you know, I have another question that I can't figure out.
I am really puzzled by this. They're saying he's a loner.
(35:39):
You know, I'm not convinced of that, because he puked
a electric schooner by a tree in New York City
and left it that would have been going in less
than four minutes.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
If he was from it was was it an electric
scooter or a bicycle?
Speaker 8 (36:01):
It was an electric something. I heard scooter, I heard bicycle. Whatever.
It was a very expensive thing that was high powered
and went quickly.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Okay, yeah, I haven't seen that, Terry.
Speaker 8 (36:17):
Not forgive that. Whatever that was, it wasn't stolen instantly.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
Well that's that doesn't say much about New York City.
But I understand the point.
Speaker 9 (36:27):
You, well, no, I'll.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Try to track that down.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
He clearly couldn't have fit that in his backpack.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Oh, it wasn't in his backpack. He had it at
the end of the alleyway. He walked out, walked right
down that alleyway. He had it all and he was
small enough to drive through Central Park. So they lost
track of him. But somehow, someway they figured out where
he had stayed, and they h.
Speaker 8 (36:54):
He did deep clues, There's no question about that. But
that made me wonder was he diverting people away from
something else that was happening elsewhere that they didn't know about.
I always wonder about those things.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
I think that that was the big that was the
big story, the tragic story of that week, And just
think of you know, how many people who might have
planned to go to New York said, you guess what,
you know, I don't think I need to go to
New York.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I'm going to try going to New Haven.
Speaker 9 (37:25):
Or Albany exactly. Oh yeah, yeah, no, I get that. Anyway,
I think the McDonald's employee should have a day of
celebration for him, well for him or her.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
We still don't know who it was, so it could
be her as well. Thanks Terry, I got a run.
Here comes the eleven o'clock news. Talk to you soon.
We're coming back. I want to talk about this if
you want to get into the Daniel Penny case in
New York as well, two very high profile crimes. They
both came to a conclusion of sorts. Today we can
(38:03):
mix and match six one, seven, two, five, four ten
thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Be
back on night Side right after this
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