December 11, 2024 • 40 mins
Eight years after Massachusetts legalizes marijuana, the Cannabis Control Commission has unveiled three license types for the “social consumption” of marijuana. A hospitality license allows for stand alone lounges to consume on site, a supplemental license is for existing businesses to have adjoining space for consumption and a temporary license can be used for events that will permit smoking marijuana or ingesting cannabis products. The finalization of the cafes is still a ways off as regulations must be approved by the Legislature. Will pot cafes in MA come to fruition?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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on the I'm on the phone. Yeah, I will call you. Yeah,
I'm on the radio right now. Okay, yeah, okay, Bye, Mustard. Okay,
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all right, that's what live radio was all about. When
you're broadcasting remotely and your daughter San Francisco walks in
with her beautiful corky. I don't know how that sounded, Rob,
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Most charities are always looking for more volunteers. Some need
more funding. You can make your pitch, you can give
your website and spread the word, simple as that. Okay,
Now I want to talk this hour. We have three
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subjects that I'd like to talk about tonight. First hour,
I'd like to talk about the arrival of cannabis cafes
pot cafes here in Massachusetts. Look, marijuana is now legal.
It's a little different than alcohol from the point of
view that everybody knows. You can go to a restaurant
and order a drink, unless it's not a dry town.
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There are still a few towns in Massachusetts where you
have to bring your own or whatever. But most restaurants,
most communities order drink before dinner, with dinner, after dinner,
whatever you want. There are bars you can go to.
Everybody knows that. Okay, you can drink it home. You
can't drink on the street. You're not supposed to be
walking down the street with an open container. I think
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you know that. You're certainly not supposed to drive. Pot
now is legal in Massachusetts. It's been legal, I guess
for eight years now. First it started off as medicinal,
and now it's whatever you want, go to a pot
shop by the pot, enjoyed in the privacy of your
own home or your backyard, I guess. But now the
next step is this cafe. So are you looking forward
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to that? I assume there's going to be a lot
of people going to say, hey, no, I'd like to
be able to go out and as opposed to having
a drink with friends, go out and smoke some cannabis.
I'd love to know what you think about this and
how it's and there are still regulations that have to
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be developed. We'll talk about that. That's the topic this hour.
Next hour, we're going to talk about whether or not
jaywalking should be well not legalized. I mean, it's it's
it's basically decriminalized in Massachusetts. Okay, we'll talk about that,
and then later on tonight, I'd like to explain to
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you that Congress has yet to act, has yet to
act on a piece of legislation which would make sure
that AM radio remains in automobiles produced in this country.
We'll get to that later. So let's talk on the
other side of the break here about cannabis. Uh, you
don't have to be a pot smoker to think it's
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a good idea. You might think, hey, you know, if
I have a right to go and have my course
lights at a bar or at a restaurant, why shouldn't
other people be able to go and smoke whatever they
want to smoke. I mean, it's interesting that cigarettes have
long been Now what at least twenty years there was
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this you can't have you can't smoke at a restaurant.
Remember that, leave the Lucky strikes and the Campmeel's at home, whatever,
the Winston's, whatever, you smoke. I'm not a smoker. So
my father was a big smoker, but he went cold
turkey when the Surgeon General's report came out, and thank
god he did. So we'll talk about that. I'm going
to open up the phone lines. I want to get
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a sense of my audience. Are you concerned about this
or do you welcome it? Six seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
And you know it may be that someone's gonna call
me up and say, hey, look, I'm a pot smoker.
I'm not. But someone might call up and say, I'm
a pot smoker. I'm a regular pot smoker, but I'm
not comfortable with the idea of going to a bar.
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So I'll bet you we're going to get people, I hope,
on both sides of this issue who have a different
relationship with marijuana. I don't think it's going to break
down the anti marijuana line or the pro marijuana line
in my opinion, but It's up to you to prove
me right or prove me wrong. Six months, seven, two, five, four,
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ten thirty, six months, seven nine thirty back on night
Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the window World
light Side Studios on WBZ, the news radio.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
My daughter has a beautiful cooky dog. I gotta tell you,
just an amazing dog. I literally am broadcasting and she
opened the door. She thought it was on a phone call.
I was like, hey, you know, I do a radio show. Anyway.
It was a never had that happen before, but it was.
(10:10):
It was fun, it was it was radio and it's
most real. Okay, so you know the question. The question
is cannabis cafes in Massachusetts. They will be once they
are opened, and they're available widely. I mean, it's just
not gonna be one in downtown Boston and in Springfield.
I'm sure they're gonna pop up in many locations, and
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there are rules and regulations to be written. And we're
not talking about being able to go somewhere this weekend.
But I'll tell you a year from now, I'll bet
you'll be able to go to any of the number
of places, and some of them will be in coordination
with yoga studios. I mean, there's a whole world here
that's going to be unveiled. But I want to hear
what you think. Let's go first to Bobby in West Virginia. Bobby,
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I know you're not in Massachusetts, but you called in
early and be well, then happy to get your point
of view on this. Go ahead, Bob.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Well, here's the thing. You know, the Constitution only has
eighteen things that the federal government has purview over, and
I don't see how they got their hands and everything.
And I think it's perfectly legitimate. People want to, you know,
smoke weed or whatever. That's up to them. As long
as they don't cause any accidents or cause any trouble
with it, that's pervaltly fine with me. I think the
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federal government's gone way, way overboard, and I think it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It's interesting, Bob, because even though marijuana is legal in Massachusetts,
it's not legal under federal standards.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
The Feds are not alcohol, tobacco, firearms or whatever they're not,
or the DEA agents are not going to break into
pot shops. But there's a lot of people who when
they opened up cannabis businesses here. They had trouble getting
loans from banks because banks, I think, are still hesitant
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to give law owns to marijuana establishments because there is
it's still outlawed as a on the books federally. So
so let me ask you. Are you somebody who who
in vibes or are you just somebody who's open minded
and saying, hey, you.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Know, I'm I'm basically a libertarian. I don't believe in
access to authority by the federal government.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The group.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
What do we do with our private lives. It's perfectly okay.
I don't care what my neighbor does as long as
they don't do anything to harm me or you know,
whatever they're doing is fine with me.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So let me run this one by you. Here in Massachusetts,
right now, you can go to a uh A dispensary
and buy whatever amount of we be you're permitted to buy.
I don't know if it's an an ounce or whatever.
You can't smoke it on the street, you can't smoke
it at a public venue, but you can go to
your backyard and smoke it with friends. You can sit
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in your house in the wintertime smokeing with or whatever.
So it's treated a little differently than beer. I mean,
I can go and have a couple of COIs beers
at a bar on a restaurant, but someone else can't
go and smoke weed at a bar a restaurant. So
it's not But when this happens and there are cannabis shops,
it's going to be very equal. Well, you mentioned concerns
(13:21):
about Look, there are plenty of people who drive drunk
and come out of a bar at night, and.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
They've got to figure out how to They got to
figure out how to judge if somebody's inebriated on marijuana,
so they make sure they're not going to be a
menace to the public safe.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, that's part of the problem you just identified. It
is there are all sorts of ways to do breathalyze,
the tests by alcohol content tests to whether or not
people are under the influence of alcohol. My understanding is
that there's no such test that is available for people
under the influence of weed.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That is correct. I've heard that, sir. Uh, So that's
that's a that's a quandary we've got to overcome pretty much. Uh,
make sure that people aren't abusing that privilege of being
able to uh imbibe whatever it is in marijuana at
your local you know, marijuana bar or whatever, and not
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cause any accidents and a public safetyation alive.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I guess. I guess police can can save someone's speech
is slurred or or their gate was unsteady or just
all of that. But if you take a blood alcohol
you know, if you take a breathalyzer and you pop up,
you know one point three. You know, That's why most
lawyers tell people you're going down. Yeah, precisely.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So I'm going to put you down as a yes, yes, sir.
You can rest assured that I am a yes, but
to with a little bit of limitation there. You've got
to figure out how to make sure that public safety
is is handled and that people are safe and that
sort of thing. And it was a pleasure. I enjoyed talk.
I was surfing the radio wave, uh, and I picked
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your folks up, uh sort of between stations, and I said, hey,
this sounded like a pretty cool show. You they'll call
them up. I've been to Massachusetts a long time agoit
and I like them. I didn't live there. I went
through there, and you know, I had fried clams. I
thought that was cool.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
We have plenty, We have plenty of listeners in West Virginia. Obviously,
you guys get the mountains down there. Is it is
your first time listening to us tonight.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I picked you up briefly about a month and a
half ago, and uh I wrote your uh, your your
telephone number down and uh uh tonight, I was listening
to uh talk radio here locally, and I was surfing
because talk radio is sort of kind of quit. So
I picked you up and go, hey, these guys. You know,
(15:57):
I don't like that guy Dan Ray. His daughter had
as a Wells Corny's. Oh yeah, those little, short, little
happy dogs.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh my god. His name is Mustard.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It's a she. She she adopted him from a shelter.
Uh so he's about three years old. We've had she's
had him now for about a year and a half.
He is the best. I mean, I love dogs. Okay,
if you listen to the end of my show. In
my show, all every Night, all dogs, all cats, all
patscot to have and I truly do believe that. But
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but she opened the door and all of a sudden,
Mustard comes flying in. I've spent more time with Mustard
the last six hours than I have in the last
six months. It's like I just you know, he was
with us during the summer, but she and her husband
work in San Francisco, so we haven't seen them in
a while. So it's kind of the beginning of Christmas
(16:50):
for us, if you will. And uh and for me,
the best Christmas present was once Mustard walked in the
door this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I can imagine. We have hunting dogs. We have a
I go down to Georgia and I hunt wild hogs
and uh, there's.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
No limit on I understand the correct no limit.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
On those there. And they want to be rid of them.
There are so many of them, you you. Uh, the
game warden will actually say make sure that you if
you're dressing out the animal, uh, you make sure that
uh poured it all out of there.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Usually they'll allow you to dig a dick big ditch,
but I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
And you know, but they are tasty. What we put
them in the ground to cook them. We we dig
a big pit. We put rocks and uh and messk
he and cook it up for about you know, until
it gets super hot. We wrap the pig up and
burl app and and chicken wire and put them in
the ground. Bury it for twelve hours, come back unbury
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the big and uh and it's in. The meat just
falls right off the bottom.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It's just unbeing you're a serious hunter. That you're a
serious hunter and you enjoyed the the product. Yes, sir,
you bet you'll with you, Bob, do me a favorite.
Lock us in and your your dial. You can always
get us in the iHeart app. By the way, if
the signal any night waivers, but we have a lot
of listeners. We boom into West Virginia. So I hope
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to have you back because your first time calling, I
assume right.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yes, sir, it surely is, and I enjoy listening to
your chef. I love Dodge. You know, Dodger Dodge are
truly they will never betray you. There they are man's
best friend.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Really now question you.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Get it right?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And also the first time as a first time caller,
our digital studio audience stood up. Thanks man, we'll talk again. Okay,
Merry Christmas if you celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
God love you and merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
To do me all right back at you, thanks, Bob,
appreciate it. Well, there's a first time caller. Uh, we
love first time callers. We love second, third, and twenty
fifth time callers as well. Back on side only. Line
open is six.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
All right, back to the call as we go, Let's
see what people have to say. We're gonna go to
Glenn Glenn is local in Brighton, Glenn next one night
Side go on hits Her.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Yeah. I told your producer Rob that I think I'm
gonna call you working for I voted to legalized pot.
I smoke it sometimes, but I've got some problems with this.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
First of all, before pot was legal, it had a
sweet cinnamon smell. Now it smells a cold dead skunk,
like roadkill. It's gross. Uh, It's really bad. But I
think uh and our friend Tim would agree with me
on this. Waltam is the marijuana mecca of Massachusetts. People
smoking on the street. I mean, you can't go anywhere
in Waltam. It smells like roadkill. It makes your eyes water,
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your nose gets.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Telling me you're a pot smoker, occasional pot smoker. Yeah,
but you're not in favor of cannabis cafes. It sounds
like the point I didn't want to miss that. I
understand you correctly.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Yes, okay, yes, you understood me correctly, because I heard
you say it at night. It's at the top of
the show. I'm like, this is a this is I
got a call on this because.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Like, yeah, glad you did.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Well. Here's the thing, Like the cigarette they don't have
some tobacco bars anymore. I mean employees that can't get
that are looking for work. They don't want that to
be They don't want a job with their asthma, their
autoimmune system. They don't want that smell. Let's say someone
needs a job and there's a good job at a
cannabis bar. But now they're going to smell. They're going
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to smell like a you know, pippel pew at the
end of the there, it's going to be in their hair,
it's going to be on their clothes. Well.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
But at the same time, if you go to work
at a pot shop, just as it like if you
went to work at a cigar bar. Remember, there was
a Boston medical director I think she's now the medical
director in Los Angeles who was concerned about the smell
of cigar smoke inside cigar bars.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I get it. Well, I guess so. I mean it
might be you know, you might be offended by the
smell of beer inside the Boston Garden and her self
is game. But the idea is that people who are
going there and know what it's all about. Same way
with pot shops. I guess if you go, you're going
to deal with whatever the smell is. But I got
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you down as a big uh.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Well, I guess the webinarian too, right.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You talked, you talked about you know.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yeah, I'm going on this. Yeah, I heard it. I mean,
if it happens, I don't think I'll lose a lot
of sleep over it. But it's just the inconsistency. They
have hookah bars, but they don't have you know, marl
barrel bars. It's just I find that, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Let mean, are the hookah bars in operation in Massachusetts.
I'm gonna sound really dumbed when I asked that question.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
But don't know, I've never been to one. I've always
wanted until we're twenty years ago they were now, I
don't know if they if they still are.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Smoke well, let me skuse, what do you smoke at
a hoopah bar. Call me naive, but I mean.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
You smoke a hookah pipe. I've never smote the hookah pipe.
I'm stilling.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
What is in the hookah pipe?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I don't know. It's some kind of Eastern or Middle
Eastern tobacco. Somebody from the Middle East can explain it.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Okay, a lot of Islamic people smoke it. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Maybe someone, But it's not like some sort of religious
experience when you go to a Catholic church and they
had incense, and some people like the smell of incense.
Some people don't like the smell of incense. But that's
part of I love you, you know, ceremony. So I
got you down. You're you're my first U. A person
who acknowledges they smoke pot bud uh wants to continue
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in time to see people's home.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
You Willian let me go. I am a small Republican,
small ill libertarian. I'm sort of half and half David
Brunn I used to call himself a small tea conservative
swaw il libertarian.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Nothing wrong with half and half, and I haven't make
coffee every morning.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
You're funny.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Thanks, Thanks, talk soon. Thanks. All right, let's keep rolling.
He you're gonna go to Jay up in Maine. Boy,
you got West Virginia, Massachusetts, and in Maine, folks, there
are lines here for Massachusetts College. Go right ahead, Hey, Jay,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Sure to Midland? How you doing, brother?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
We're doing just great. What's your take on this? Jay?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
So I hear you going back and forth and.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
You say, the guy, you vote yes, you vote no, Tell.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Me the question.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
I'll give you the answer and then a little commentary
on the subject.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
What's the question?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, here in Massachusetts we basically legalized marijuana about eight
years ago, medicinal marijuana. Now we have marijuana dispensary. You
probably have them in Maine, and we are now beginning
to formulate regulations which would allow cannabis cafes or pot shop,
park bars, whatever you want to call them, where it's
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just like I can go down to the corner bar
with the corner restaurant and have a couple of you know,
course lights or a glass of red wine. Now you'd
be able to extend the same opportunities to people who
would prefer to smoke a joint. So the question is
is that a good idea, or do we keep it
(24:41):
where it is right now, which is you buy the
stuff at the dispensary and you go home and you
share it with your friends, or you smoke it yourself.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Well I don't fit in either of those categories because.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I don't I have it, said someone all I retired
and getting near the end of the road here. I haven't.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
In high school, I was with some folks and young
and I smoked a few left handed cigarettes. I understand
what it is to have to self medicate and to
have a few laughs and relax and stuff. But that's,
you know, when I was twenty, and that's a long
time ago.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So let me ask you. Let me ask you the
threshold question as someone now again, you're in Maine. I
assume marijuana is legally made, correct, do you have to
special subjects? Okay?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
When when that was on the ballot or whatever? Are
you okay with that? I mean, are there are people
who are who are who are abstainers from alcohol? They're
okay with package stores? So what's your position on the
legalization of marijuana in Maine? Up or down?
Speaker 7 (25:51):
So I'm not a great socialite with conversation, but I
have some courage of my convictions. For lack of a
better commentary, I have read where it says, let's say
cover you opened up to can of worms with other stuff.
I will address that smoke thing with you. Solomon wrote
(26:13):
the Proverbs chapter twenty verse one.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Wine is a mocker.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Strong drink is raging, and anybody deceived by that is
not why so.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I definitely concur with the wisdom.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
I was a teenager and had self medicated with alcohol
is a problem.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
So Solomon is smarter than.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Most of you. Know. Again, I don't want to get
into debate with you, but I don't self MEDICAI. But
I enjoy glass of wine with dinner, and I sometimes
I'll have a course like before. But let's get back
to the topic at hand. We could debate that some
other night marijuana did you when when it became legally made?
Did you welcome it? You didn't have to use it,
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did you welcome it?
Speaker 7 (26:56):
I spoke to thousands of people on the subject, and
I didn't rest of the matter.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Because I was a child.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
I acted as a child, I thought as a child,
and when I became a man, I put.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Away childish things.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
So there is a text and a new testament that
says be sober and be vigilant because your adversary to
devil goes about like a roaring lion seeking who it
can devour. So we have enough trouble thinking straight in
America and on the street, corner with the neighbors and
everywhere you go with the store.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
It's important to be as clear minded as you can.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
So I wasn't passing judgment on anybody because they're drinking
or there smoking.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
It's a personal choice.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
And as for me, I would say, you know a
lot of brain cells have been wounded in the young age.
They recover if you stay away from that stuff. But
I have friends that are still you know, like teenage
child you know, high school kids still smoking, still partying,
and there's a limit. At some point you just kind
(27:59):
of grow up and put a way to childish stuff.
I don't endorse it. I don't embrace it. That's my
personal choice. But I don't condemn people for us. And
it does think the guys right. I was in Boston
last week to see my medical specialist, and the skunk
smell is you know, while you're going down the road,
you don't even have to be walking on the street corner.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
You can smell it and it has an effect. It does.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
It does affect people that get exposed to secondhand smoke.
It does affect people. So it's I don't think it's
a healthy thing. I think Uncle Sam is just like,
give me your money and you can do what.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
You want to do.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
That doesn't make it right from a moral From a
moral perspective, to my opinion, just try to be as
clear minded as you can and dealing with issues, because
once you get over the edge with chemicals or whatever
you're putting in your body, there you're thinking, and so
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the judgment becomes imbalanced.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So I think, I think, I think I got your point,
but I'm up on a break, so I gotta let
you run. Appreciate your call. Always happy to hear a
couple of Bible quotes. Thank you very much, appreciate it.
We'll take a break, coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Forget a full lines here, let's keep rolling. I'm gonna
try to move people a little bit more quickly. Jim
in Kansas City, Jim Next on Nightsiger.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Right ahead, Dan Hi, longtime, no talk.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
How are you doing great?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
What you're taking this?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Jim Well, to quote a very wise woman, just say no,
say no.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Okay. So, so I assume your opposed to the legalization
and therefore certainly you don't want cannabis cafes.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Well, just for me personally, I'm a completely averse to it.
I don't want it around me. I don't want to
be around it. I don't want to be around people
who are on it. I don't want it in the schools.
I don't want it in society. I don't want to
have to pay increased insurance rates as a result of
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the use of it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
But totally other.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
People want it. If other people want to do it,
I just want to make sure that they're paying the price,
not me insurance. I mean, I want to encourage employers
to drug test people at work so that we I mean,
you're at words you're hearing all the time about safety,
safety safety. I mean to me, people who are on
they think because they haven't smoked it for twenty four hours,
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they're off of it. No, it stays in your blood
for on a seven eight days, and if they're a safety,
they're hazard.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I want to you know, I mean drug testing. I
want to see more drug testing. And I'd be interested
in knowing how insurance corporations if a marijuana cafe that's
what we're talking about, Yeah, don't they have to have
insurance in order to open up? Or where do they
get insurance for it? And how does the insurance corporation?
I mean, what pool do they put them in? Is
it just a must be like a state pool or
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because if it's if it's if it's illegal nationally, I
would think that it would be illegal for them to
take the proceed from a policy of an organization that US.
I don't know how that works out. I don't even
think it's legal for them to put the money in
a bank or for a bank to knowingly accept it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So there are some applications there. Yep, you've raised You've
raised about fifteen issues. I wish I had enough time
to address them all.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
But you talk about library library cards. Man, that's important stuff,
all right. Like I say, I wanted drug testing, drug testing,
drug testing, drug testing because it stays in your blood
for a long time. It's not like alcohol. I don't
like when people compare to alcohol because it's not like alcohol.
That stuff gets you high and keeps you high for
a long time. Even though people, the people who use
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it and they're on it, I don't appreciate their opinion
on whether or not they're high. I think they're still high,
like a day or two, a long time after they
use it.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
But all right, but I gotta let you run. I
get packed. Calls behind you too, Thanks you soon, Thank
you much. Let me go to Betty in the boat.
Betty got a little late here. Want to sneak you in,
but I've got to be got to be quick tonight.
Go ahead, Betty.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
I'm against the cafes. And in the boating said, did
you say.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
You're against them? Betty, you said you're against them?
Speaker 8 (32:34):
Yeah, against them primarily because of the impact of second
hand smoke to the non consumer, but in the voting industry.
If I get boarded by the US Coast Guard and
I who they find drugs on my boat, I lose
my vessel. It's a ten thousand dollars finding, five years
(32:57):
in jail. I'm on federal waters.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I gotcha, and I got you. I've forgotten about that,
to be honest with you.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
Okay, And New Hampshire does not permit marijuana as a
land as a property owner up there, you're a mandated
self reporter. If your renter is using and you know
it and you don't report it, you lose your property
ten thousand dollars fying five years in jail.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
That's that's in the live free or die state.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Bingo. Yeah, okay, And I you know, I just I've
seen a change traffic patterns and people's driving behaviors, and
there's more aggression on the highways today than I've ever
seen in my sixty two years of driving.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I can on that point too, Betty.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
You hit them all, then go ahead, you know if
I So, if I go someplace and I and I
have a lung condition and there's smoke, I want to leave.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, But on the on the cannabis shops, on the
on the cannabis cafes, you would know what you're walking into.
I mean, one of the things about restaurants now is
that you can't smoke cigarettes. So therefore, if you're in
a restaurant and someone lights up, they're gonna be told to,
you know, to put it on get out. But cigar
or p yeah, you're not going to be affected by that.
(34:35):
Second hand smoke in the cannabis cafe because you're probably
not going to enter the premises right thing.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Though, I'm not going afire. I value my lunch too much.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
All right, Betty, I got you in here. We'll talk soon, Okay.
Should be is whether we'll clear up by the next
day or so.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
Okay, it's gonna be fine until Friday, and then it's
gonna turn around again with high winds and then we'll
be fine the first to next week. And I hope
you and your family are a both well. All well,
take care.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Of the dog absolutely absolutely. I'll bring Mustard bye some
day and say hello, thanks, Betty.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
Talk to you absolutely, take here by, right.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Next up is Steve in Franklin, Massachusetts. Steve, you're next
on Nightside. We got we're getting tight.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
Go ahead, Hi Dan, Happy New Year in happy holidays.
And I'm a long time listener, but having called in
a while. But you know, you're talking about the cafes
and where they can smoke it. I mean, I'm against
smoking in marijuana and it's a federal crime. And uh,
(35:50):
I was just saying that they're gonna smoke it, and
shouldn't they allow like water pipes for people that don't
have come passionate use, because I understand the water pipe
cools the tobacco, cools the marijuana. I mean, people with
a esophageo cancer. Shouldn't they have shouldn't they allow water
(36:13):
pipes for compassionate use.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I have no clue to be really official to do
that one. I wish I could offered opinion. I think
they have these hookah pipes, but I'm not I'm not
a hooka pipe guy, so I can't help you there either.
We're not talking about compassionate use here. We're talking about
basically taking marijuana.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
But I mean, if they're gonna smoke it, I thought
a water pipe cools the tobacco, and it cools the marijuana,
and you want to burn your esophagus, and that might do.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
But that's a little off topic here because they.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
Have one up town, and I guess I went in
there to buy something for tobacco or something for my brother,
and I didn't see any water pipes, and I remember
water pipes cooled it.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Okay, Well that's all You've You've got a lot of
good information about water pipes, and I want to get
one more caller in see what he has to say
as well, Steve, callmore often. We'll talk soon. Thank you much.
Another Steven Gamebri Steve, you're at the end of the line.
Normally they're going.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
To have marijuana cafes. I would like to be able
to go to a bar and have a cigarette with
my martini if I drank. I don't drink anymore. But
it seems inconsistent to allow marijuana cafes but now allowed
tobacco cafes.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Well, it's amazing when you think about it, because there
was a push you can't go to a And by
the way, I'm not a smoker. I don't smoke cigarettes,
never smoke cigarettes. And I was always bothered by cigarette smoke.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
By your father's cigarette smoke. You what by your father's
cigarette smoke.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh, I was horribly bothered by that.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I really yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
I mean how many decades did he smoke?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Do you think smoke most of his life? He went
cold Turkey in nineteen sixty four when the Surgeon General
report came down. But he's a World War Two veteran.
I suspect he probably spoke for thirty years. They all
smoked when they're in World War two. Yes, two and
a half years in what was called the CBI China
Burmer in India. But for him, Wow Smith rather, smoking
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really bothered me and I just never I never took
to it at all.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
But Dan, don't you think if they allow marijuana bars,
they should allow a bar where someone could go in
and have a beer and a cigarette and shine on
the front.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well, no, no, I'm with I'm going to agree with
you on this. I'm enough of a libertarian say there
should be restaurants in which smoking is allowed. I'm not
going to patronize that restaurant. But that allows you to
go and have your martini and smoke a cigarette enjoy
a meal. But if I want to put aside my
(38:58):
concerns about cigarettes and enjoy a meal with you and
try to sit away from the cigarette smoke, that's my decision.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Or if I decide not to smoke and go to
a non smoking restaurant with you, that would be my
decision too.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Exactly exactly, So, I was in favor of two types
of restaurants. Open up the restaurant and the owner can
either can either be smoking or non smoking people. Not
one of these where over the corner the smokers consis.
But again that's that was too rational for Massachusetts. And
again I say that as a viril anti smoker.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Huh, yes, Dan, you know if they you know, be
interesting because I bet you if you have a marijuana bar,
you won't be allowed to smoke tobacco in it.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I'm almost certain of that, and we will discuss that
subject another night.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
But for this one, generally speaking, people smoke Middle Eastern
people smoke tobacco in hookahs. But you could smoke marijuana
in a hookah anything, but generally it's tobacco.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah. Well, thank you very much for that information. I
know nothing about that, and you've you've provided me with
some information. I'm more edified as a consequence of the
phone call.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
As always, you're too kind, as I always say, take
care Dan.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Thanks Bell. When we get back, going to change topics,
going to change topics here a little bit, and we're
going to talk about something else. Should jaywalking in Massachusetts,
which is still against the law, should that be decriminalized?
I have very mixed mind on this one. We'll talk
to you in a minute, in a few minutes, right
after the ten o'clock news dial up right now six one, seven, two, five, four,
(40:37):
ten thirty six, one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty
It's Night Side with Dan Ray w Bzoston's Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
A couple of notes here, if I could very quickly
points of personal privilege, if I'd be so kind, if
you'd be so kind. We got some of our shows
on Monday night, some of our hours on Monday night
got posted, and then they for some reason were taken
(00:27):
down for a few hours. So I just want to
call to your attention that on Monday night, from eight
until nine and then from nine until ten, we did
two hours with the admissions directors, Bill Fitzimmons of Harvard University,
Harvard College and Grant Goslin, the admissions direct admission director
at Dean of Admission at Boston College. If you have
(00:50):
had had any trouble, had any trouble finding those two hours,
there's a lot of information in both of those hours,
between the phone calls, the question that I have asked,
but also the answers that were given by Bill Fitzsimmons
and Grant Gosling. They're invaluable if you have children, grandchildren, nieces,
(01:11):
nephews who are in the eighth, ninth, tenth, even as
late as the eleventh grade, as they begin to prepare
thinking about what colleges they might like to apply to,
or if they want to apply to college, if they're
going to take a year off and maybe wait a year,
and there's all sorts of options. But the point is
that those two hours Monday nights eight and Monday nights
(01:35):
nine o'clock hour, they're now both posted. They're up there,
so please take advantage of those. In addition, the last
event scheduled event that we have this year is what
we call the Night Side Charity Combine, and which we
give all sorts of charities an opportunity to appear in
the show free of charge and they can talk about
(01:56):
what their charity tries to accomplish now I know it
in the eight o'clock hour. Over the year, there are
many of various charities that we have talked about, we
have given you information on. But if you're in one
of those and you'd like to have a second bite
(02:16):
of the apple on Friday night, twentieth of December, just
you got to get in contact with us. Tonight's the
last night. We're going to start to pull the schedule
together tomorrow, So after tomorrow morning, by nine o'clock ten o'clock,
we're going to shut down the application. So if you
were involved in a charity, particularly if you're somebody who's
(02:38):
running a charity, you have to if you would like
to be on the show. You do it all from
the comfort of your home telephone. You don't have to
drive to a studio. I broadcast remotely. We'll interview you
via telephone. There's no inconvenience whatsoever. It gives you an
opportunity to highlight your charity's efforts for our audience. You
(03:03):
do not have to be a charity from the greater
Boston area. We have charities. We've had charities from as
far away as Wisconsin in prior years. Most of them
ninety five percent of them are from New England and
probably ninety percent of them are from within eastern Massachusetts.
But we try to be as flexible as possible. Here's
what you have to do. You need to send me
(03:27):
an email, and please don't send me an email that
says I've heard about a great charity in Springfield. I'm
not sure what the name is. But no, we do
not make calls out. If you're involved in a charity
and you want to be on the show, or you
want a representative of your group to be in the show.
You have to either say hey, I'm willing to go.
You call you send us an email and I'll give
you that in a moment, or you find the president
(03:49):
of the group who's going to go on or whatever.
We don't want to get involved in any of the
internescing and warfare within the charity, So I don't want
to be told by some person, well that person wasn't authorized. No,
keep it simple. All you have to do is either
call me or call Marita Marita aka Lightning, our producer
(04:11):
during the day. Rob, you have my number and you
have Marita's number directly direct there. Okay. If anybody calls
in uh, and if you could also give them the
email address. My email is Dan Ray at iHeartMedia dot com.
Marita's is a little longer. Rob has her email as well,
so believe me, if you called after nine o'clock tomorrow,
(04:33):
we're gonna stay. Sorry, We've announced it several times. You
missed it. Uh, it comes Mustard the Dog to say
good night. I Mustard, how are you. Yes, I am
on the I'm on the phone. Yeah, I will call you. Yeah,
I'm on the radio right now. Okay, yeah, okay, Bye, Mustard. Okay,
(04:53):
all right, that's what live radio was all about. When
you're broadcasting remotely and your daughter San Francisco walks in
with her beautiful corky. I don't know how that sounded, Rob,
but that was That was radio Verite doesn't get any
more real than that. So if anyone is interested to call,
(05:14):
Rob will give give you my direct line or Marita's
direct line. But you gotta call in by tomorrow morning.
I'll put the deadline tomorrow morning and tomorrow noontime. Simple
as that. If you call it twelve oh one, it's
going to be too late. So I hate to do
this to you, but we have to. We have to
put this together. We will notify you, tell you exactly
what time you'll be on, and we will put you
(05:35):
on the radio with us, and you can talk about
what your charity does, what your charity might need most.
Most charities are always looking for more volunteers. Some need
more funding. You can make your pitch, you can give
your website and spread the word, simple as that. Okay,
Now I want to talk this hour. We have three
(05:55):
subjects that I'd like to talk about tonight. First hour,
I'd like to talk about the arrival of cannabis cafes
pot cafes here in Massachusetts. Look, marijuana is now legal.
It's a little different than alcohol from the point of
view that everybody knows. You can go to a restaurant
and order a drink, unless it's not a dry town.
(06:18):
There are still a few towns in Massachusetts where you
have to bring your own or whatever. But most restaurants,
most communities order drink before dinner, with dinner, after dinner,
whatever you want. There are bars you can go to.
Everybody knows that. Okay, you can drink it home. You
can't drink on the street. You're not supposed to be
walking down the street with an open container. I think
(06:39):
you know that. You're certainly not supposed to drive. Pot
now is legal in Massachusetts. It's been legal, I guess
for eight years now. First it started off as medicinal,
and now it's whatever you want, go to a pot
shop by the pot, enjoyed in the privacy of your
own home or your backyard, I guess. But now the
next step is this cafe. So are you looking forward
(07:02):
to that? I assume there's going to be a lot
of people going to say, hey, no, I'd like to
be able to go out and as opposed to having
a drink with friends, go out and smoke some cannabis.
I'd love to know what you think about this and
how it's and there are still regulations that have to
(07:22):
be developed. We'll talk about that. That's the topic this hour.
Next hour, we're going to talk about whether or not
jaywalking should be well not legalized. I mean, it's it's
it's basically decriminalized in Massachusetts. Okay, we'll talk about that,
and then later on tonight, I'd like to explain to
(07:45):
you that Congress has yet to act, has yet to
act on a piece of legislation which would make sure
that AM radio remains in automobiles produced in this country.
We'll get to that later. So let's talk on the
other side of the break here about cannabis. Uh, you
don't have to be a pot smoker to think it's
(08:07):
a good idea. You might think, hey, you know, if
I have a right to go and have my course
lights at a bar or at a restaurant, why shouldn't
other people be able to go and smoke whatever they
want to smoke. I mean, it's interesting that cigarettes have
long been Now what at least twenty years there was
(08:28):
this you can't have you can't smoke at a restaurant.
Remember that, leave the Lucky strikes and the Campmeel's at home, whatever,
the Winston's, whatever, you smoke. I'm not a smoker. So
my father was a big smoker, but he went cold
turkey when the Surgeon General's report came out, and thank
god he did. So we'll talk about that. I'm going
to open up the phone lines. I want to get
(08:49):
a sense of my audience. Are you concerned about this
or do you welcome it? Six seven, two, five, four
ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten thirty.
And you know it may be that someone's gonna call
me up and say, hey, look, I'm a pot smoker.
I'm not. But someone might call up and say, I'm
a pot smoker. I'm a regular pot smoker, but I'm
not comfortable with the idea of going to a bar.
(09:11):
So I'll bet you we're going to get people, I hope,
on both sides of this issue who have a different
relationship with marijuana. I don't think it's going to break
down the anti marijuana line or the pro marijuana line
in my opinion, but It's up to you to prove
me right or prove me wrong. Six months, seven, two, five, four,
(09:32):
ten thirty, six months, seven nine thirty back on night
Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Now back to Dan Ray Mine from the window World
light Side Studios on WBZ, the news radio.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
My daughter has a beautiful cooky dog. I gotta tell you,
just an amazing dog. I literally am broadcasting and she
opened the door. She thought it was on a phone call.
I was like, hey, you know, I do a radio show. Anyway.
It was a never had that happen before, but it was.
(10:10):
It was fun, it was it was radio and it's
most real. Okay, so you know the question. The question
is cannabis cafes in Massachusetts. They will be once they
are opened, and they're available widely. I mean, it's just
not gonna be one in downtown Boston and in Springfield.
I'm sure they're gonna pop up in many locations, and
(10:34):
there are rules and regulations to be written. And we're
not talking about being able to go somewhere this weekend.
But I'll tell you a year from now, I'll bet
you'll be able to go to any of the number
of places, and some of them will be in coordination
with yoga studios. I mean, there's a whole world here
that's going to be unveiled. But I want to hear
what you think. Let's go first to Bobby in West Virginia. Bobby,
(10:57):
I know you're not in Massachusetts, but you called in
early and be well, then happy to get your point
of view on this. Go ahead, Bob.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Well, here's the thing. You know, the Constitution only has
eighteen things that the federal government has purview over, and
I don't see how they got their hands and everything.
And I think it's perfectly legitimate. People want to, you know,
smoke weed or whatever. That's up to them. As long
as they don't cause any accidents or cause any trouble
with it, that's pervaltly fine with me. I think the
(11:24):
federal government's gone way, way overboard, and I think it's interesting.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It's interesting, Bob, because even though marijuana is legal in Massachusetts,
it's not legal under federal standards.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
The Feds are not alcohol, tobacco, firearms or whatever they're not,
or the DEA agents are not going to break into
pot shops. But there's a lot of people who when
they opened up cannabis businesses here. They had trouble getting
loans from banks because banks, I think, are still hesitant
(11:59):
to give law owns to marijuana establishments because there is
it's still outlawed as a on the books federally. So
so let me ask you. Are you somebody who who
in vibes or are you just somebody who's open minded
and saying, hey, you.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Know, I'm I'm basically a libertarian. I don't believe in
access to authority by the federal government.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
The group.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
What do we do with our private lives. It's perfectly okay.
I don't care what my neighbor does as long as
they don't do anything to harm me or you know,
whatever they're doing is fine with me.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
So let me run this one by you. Here in Massachusetts,
right now, you can go to a uh A dispensary
and buy whatever amount of we be you're permitted to buy.
I don't know if it's an an ounce or whatever.
You can't smoke it on the street, you can't smoke
it at a public venue, but you can go to
your backyard and smoke it with friends. You can sit
(12:56):
in your house in the wintertime smokeing with or whatever.
So it's treated a little differently than beer. I mean,
I can go and have a couple of COIs beers
at a bar on a restaurant, but someone else can't
go and smoke weed at a bar a restaurant. So
it's not But when this happens and there are cannabis shops,
it's going to be very equal. Well, you mentioned concerns
(13:21):
about Look, there are plenty of people who drive drunk
and come out of a bar at night, and.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
They've got to figure out how to They got to
figure out how to judge if somebody's inebriated on marijuana,
so they make sure they're not going to be a
menace to the public safe.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, that's part of the problem you just identified. It
is there are all sorts of ways to do breathalyze,
the tests by alcohol content tests to whether or not
people are under the influence of alcohol. My understanding is
that there's no such test that is available for people
under the influence of weed.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
That is correct. I've heard that, sir. Uh, So that's
that's a that's a quandary we've got to overcome pretty much. Uh,
make sure that people aren't abusing that privilege of being
able to uh imbibe whatever it is in marijuana at
your local you know, marijuana bar or whatever, and not
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cause any accidents and a public safetyation alive.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I guess. I guess police can can save someone's speech
is slurred or or their gate was unsteady or just
all of that. But if you take a blood alcohol
you know, if you take a breathalyzer and you pop up,
you know one point three. You know, That's why most
lawyers tell people you're going down. Yeah, precisely.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So I'm going to put you down as a yes, yes, sir.
You can rest assured that I am a yes, but
to with a little bit of limitation there. You've got
to figure out how to make sure that public safety
is is handled and that people are safe and that
sort of thing. And it was a pleasure. I enjoyed talk.
I was surfing the radio wave, uh, and I picked
(15:09):
your folks up, uh sort of between stations, and I said, hey,
this sounded like a pretty cool show. You they'll call
them up. I've been to Massachusetts a long time agoit
and I like them. I didn't live there. I went
through there, and you know, I had fried clams. I
thought that was cool.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
Stuff.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
We have plenty, We have plenty of listeners in West Virginia. Obviously,
you guys get the mountains down there. Is it is
your first time listening to us tonight.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I picked you up briefly about a month and a
half ago, and uh I wrote your uh, your your
telephone number down and uh uh tonight, I was listening
to uh talk radio here locally, and I was surfing
because talk radio is sort of kind of quit. So
I picked you up and go, hey, these guys. You know,
(15:57):
I don't like that guy Dan Ray. His daughter had
as a Wells Corny's. Oh yeah, those little, short, little
happy dogs.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Oh my god. His name is Mustard.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It's a she. She she adopted him from a shelter.
Uh so he's about three years old. We've had she's
had him now for about a year and a half.
He is the best. I mean, I love dogs. Okay,
if you listen to the end of my show. In
my show, all every Night, all dogs, all cats, all
patscot to have and I truly do believe that. But
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but she opened the door and all of a sudden,
Mustard comes flying in. I've spent more time with Mustard
the last six hours than I have in the last
six months. It's like I just you know, he was
with us during the summer, but she and her husband
work in San Francisco, so we haven't seen them in
a while. So it's kind of the beginning of Christmas
(16:50):
for us, if you will. And uh and for me,
the best Christmas present was once Mustard walked in the
door this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
I can imagine. We have hunting dogs. We have a
I go down to Georgia and I hunt wild hogs
and uh, there's.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
No limit on I understand the correct no limit.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
On those there. And they want to be rid of them.
There are so many of them, you you. Uh, the
game warden will actually say make sure that you if
you're dressing out the animal, uh, you make sure that
uh poured it all out of there.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Usually they'll allow you to dig a dick big ditch,
but I'm not going to say that.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
And you know, but they are tasty. What we put
them in the ground to cook them. We we dig
a big pit. We put rocks and uh and messk
he and cook it up for about you know, until
it gets super hot. We wrap the pig up and
burl app and and chicken wire and put them in
the ground. Bury it for twelve hours, come back unbury
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the big and uh and it's in. The meat just
falls right off the bottom.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
It's just unbeing you're a serious hunter. That you're a
serious hunter and you enjoyed the the product. Yes, sir,
you bet you'll with you, Bob, do me a favorite.
Lock us in and your your dial. You can always
get us in the iHeart app. By the way, if
the signal any night waivers, but we have a lot
of listeners. We boom into West Virginia. So I hope
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to have you back because your first time calling, I
assume right.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yes, sir, it surely is, and I enjoy listening to
your chef. I love Dodge. You know, Dodger Dodge are
truly they will never betray you. There they are man's
best friend.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Really now question you.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Get it right?
Speaker 2 (18:40):
And also the first time as a first time caller,
our digital studio audience stood up. Thanks man, we'll talk again. Okay,
Merry Christmas if you celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
God love you and merry Christmas.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
To do me all right back at you, thanks, Bob,
appreciate it. Well, there's a first time caller. Uh, we
love first time callers. We love second, third, and twenty
fifth time callers as well. Back on side only. Line
open is six.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
All right, back to the call as we go, Let's
see what people have to say. We're gonna go to
Glenn Glenn is local in Brighton, Glenn next one night
Side go on hits Her.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Yeah. I told your producer Rob that I think I'm
gonna call you working for I voted to legalized pot.
I smoke it sometimes, but I've got some problems with this.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
First of all, before pot was legal, it had a
sweet cinnamon smell. Now it smells a cold dead skunk,
like roadkill. It's gross. Uh, It's really bad. But I
think uh and our friend Tim would agree with me
on this. Waltam is the marijuana mecca of Massachusetts. People
smoking on the street. I mean, you can't go anywhere
in Waltam. It smells like roadkill. It makes your eyes water,
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your nose gets.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Telling me you're a pot smoker, occasional pot smoker. Yeah,
but you're not in favor of cannabis cafes. It sounds
like the point I didn't want to miss that. I
understand you correctly.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
Yes, okay, yes, you understood me correctly, because I heard
you say it at night. It's at the top of
the show. I'm like, this is a this is I
got a call on this because.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Like, yeah, glad you did.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Well. Here's the thing, Like the cigarette they don't have
some tobacco bars anymore. I mean employees that can't get
that are looking for work. They don't want that to
be They don't want a job with their asthma, their
autoimmune system. They don't want that smell. Let's say someone
needs a job and there's a good job at a
cannabis bar. But now they're going to smell. They're going
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to smell like a you know, pippel pew at the
end of the there, it's going to be in their hair,
it's going to be on their clothes. Well.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
But at the same time, if you go to work
at a pot shop, just as it like if you
went to work at a cigar bar. Remember, there was
a Boston medical director I think she's now the medical
director in Los Angeles who was concerned about the smell
of cigar smoke inside cigar bars.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I get it. Well, I guess so. I mean it
might be you know, you might be offended by the
smell of beer inside the Boston Garden and her self
is game. But the idea is that people who are
going there and know what it's all about. Same way
with pot shops. I guess if you go, you're going
to deal with whatever the smell is. But I got
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you down as a big uh.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
Well, I guess the webinarian too, right.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
You talked, you talked about you know.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Yeah, I'm going on this. Yeah, I heard it. I mean,
if it happens, I don't think I'll lose a lot
of sleep over it. But it's just the inconsistency. They
have hookah bars, but they don't have you know, marl
barrel bars. It's just I find that, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Let mean, are the hookah bars in operation in Massachusetts.
I'm gonna sound really dumbed when I asked that question.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
But don't know, I've never been to one. I've always
wanted until we're twenty years ago they were now, I
don't know if they if they still are.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Smoke well, let me skuse, what do you smoke at
a hoopah bar. Call me naive, but I mean.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
You smoke a hookah pipe. I've never smote the hookah pipe.
I'm stilling.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
What is in the hookah pipe?
Speaker 5 (22:27):
I don't know. It's some kind of Eastern or Middle
Eastern tobacco. Somebody from the Middle East can explain it.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
I can't.
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Okay, a lot of Islamic people smoke it. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Maybe someone, But it's not like some sort of religious
experience when you go to a Catholic church and they
had incense, and some people like the smell of incense.
Some people don't like the smell of incense. But that's
part of I love you, you know, ceremony. So I
got you down. You're you're my first U. A person
who acknowledges they smoke pot bud uh wants to continue
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in time to see people's home.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
You Willian let me go. I am a small Republican,
small ill libertarian. I'm sort of half and half David
Brunn I used to call himself a small tea conservative
swaw il libertarian.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Nothing wrong with half and half, and I haven't make
coffee every morning.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
You're funny.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Thanks, Thanks, talk soon. Thanks. All right, let's keep rolling.
He you're gonna go to Jay up in Maine. Boy,
you got West Virginia, Massachusetts, and in Maine, folks, there
are lines here for Massachusetts College. Go right ahead, Hey, Jay,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Sure to Midland? How you doing, brother?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
We're doing just great. What's your take on this? Jay?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
So I hear you going back and forth and.
Speaker 7 (23:50):
You say, the guy, you vote yes, you vote no, Tell.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Me the question.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
I'll give you the answer and then a little commentary
on the subject.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
What's the question?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, here in Massachusetts we basically legalized marijuana about eight
years ago, medicinal marijuana. Now we have marijuana dispensary. You
probably have them in Maine, and we are now beginning
to formulate regulations which would allow cannabis cafes or pot shop,
park bars, whatever you want to call them, where it's
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just like I can go down to the corner bar
with the corner restaurant and have a couple of you know,
course lights or a glass of red wine. Now you'd
be able to extend the same opportunities to people who
would prefer to smoke a joint. So the question is
is that a good idea, or do we keep it
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where it is right now, which is you buy the
stuff at the dispensary and you go home and you
share it with your friends, or you smoke it yourself.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Well I don't fit in either of those categories because.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
I don't I have it, said someone all I retired
and getting near the end of the road here. I haven't.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
In high school, I was with some folks and young
and I smoked a few left handed cigarettes. I understand
what it is to have to self medicate and to
have a few laughs and relax and stuff. But that's,
you know, when I was twenty, and that's a long
time ago.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So let me ask you. Let me ask you the
threshold question as someone now again, you're in Maine. I
assume marijuana is legally made, correct, do you have to
special subjects? Okay?
Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
When when that was on the ballot or whatever? Are
you okay with that? I mean, are there are people
who are who are who are abstainers from alcohol? They're
okay with package stores? So what's your position on the
legalization of marijuana in Maine? Up or down?
Speaker 7 (25:51):
So I'm not a great socialite with conversation, but I
have some courage of my convictions. For lack of a
better commentary, I have read where it says, let's say
cover you opened up to can of worms with other stuff.
I will address that smoke thing with you. Solomon wrote
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the Proverbs chapter twenty verse one.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Wine is a mocker.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Strong drink is raging, and anybody deceived by that is
not why so.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
I definitely concur with the wisdom.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
I was a teenager and had self medicated with alcohol
is a problem.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
So Solomon is smarter than.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Most of you. Know. Again, I don't want to get
into debate with you, but I don't self MEDICAI. But
I enjoy glass of wine with dinner, and I sometimes
I'll have a course like before. But let's get back
to the topic at hand. We could debate that some
other night marijuana did you when when it became legally made?
Did you welcome it? You didn't have to use it,
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did you welcome it?
Speaker 7 (26:56):
I spoke to thousands of people on the subject, and
I didn't rest of the matter.
Speaker 4 (27:00):
Because I was a child.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
I acted as a child, I thought as a child,
and when I became a man, I put.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Away childish things.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
So there is a text and a new testament that
says be sober and be vigilant because your adversary to
devil goes about like a roaring lion seeking who it
can devour. So we have enough trouble thinking straight in
America and on the street, corner with the neighbors and
everywhere you go with the store.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
It's important to be as clear minded as you can.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
So I wasn't passing judgment on anybody because they're drinking
or there smoking.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
It's a personal choice.
Speaker 7 (27:38):
And as for me, I would say, you know a
lot of brain cells have been wounded in the young age.
They recover if you stay away from that stuff. But
I have friends that are still you know, like teenage
child you know, high school kids still smoking, still partying,
and there's a limit. At some point you just kind
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of grow up and put a way to childish stuff.
I don't endorse it. I don't embrace it. That's my
personal choice. But I don't condemn people for us. And
it does think the guys right. I was in Boston
last week to see my medical specialist, and the skunk
smell is you know, while you're going down the road,
you don't even have to be walking on the street corner.
Speaker 4 (28:21):
You can smell it and it has an effect. It does.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
It does affect people that get exposed to secondhand smoke.
It does affect people. So it's I don't think it's
a healthy thing. I think Uncle Sam is just like,
give me your money and you can do what.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
You want to do.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
That doesn't make it right from a moral From a
moral perspective, to my opinion, just try to be as
clear minded as you can and dealing with issues, because
once you get over the edge with chemicals or whatever
you're putting in your body, there you're thinking, and so
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the judgment becomes imbalanced.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So I think, I think, I think I got your point,
but I'm up on a break, so I gotta let
you run. Appreciate your call. Always happy to hear a
couple of Bible quotes. Thank you very much, appreciate it.
We'll take a break, coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Forget a full lines here, let's keep rolling. I'm gonna
try to move people a little bit more quickly. Jim
in Kansas City, Jim Next on Nightsiger.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Right ahead, Dan Hi, longtime, no talk.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
How are you doing great?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
What you're taking this?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Jim Well, to quote a very wise woman, just say no,
say no.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Okay. So, so I assume your opposed to the legalization
and therefore certainly you don't want cannabis cafes.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Well, just for me personally, I'm a completely averse to it.
I don't want it around me. I don't want to
be around it. I don't want to be around people
who are on it. I don't want it in the schools.
I don't want it in society. I don't want to
have to pay increased insurance rates as a result of
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the use of it.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
But totally other.
Speaker 3 (30:19):
People want it. If other people want to do it,
I just want to make sure that they're paying the price,
not me insurance. I mean, I want to encourage employers
to drug test people at work so that we I mean,
you're at words you're hearing all the time about safety,
safety safety. I mean to me, people who are on
they think because they haven't smoked it for twenty four hours,
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they're off of it. No, it stays in your blood
for on a seven eight days, and if they're a safety,
they're hazard.
Speaker 7 (30:48):
You know.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I want to you know, I mean drug testing. I
want to see more drug testing. And I'd be interested
in knowing how insurance corporations if a marijuana cafe that's
what we're talking about, Yeah, don't they have to have
insurance in order to open up? Or where do they
get insurance for it? And how does the insurance corporation?
I mean, what pool do they put them in? Is
it just a must be like a state pool or
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because if it's if it's if it's illegal nationally, I
would think that it would be illegal for them to
take the proceed from a policy of an organization that US.
I don't know how that works out. I don't even
think it's legal for them to put the money in
a bank or for a bank to knowingly accept it.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
So there are some applications there. Yep, you've raised You've
raised about fifteen issues. I wish I had enough time
to address them all.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
But you talk about library library cards. Man, that's important stuff,
all right. Like I say, I wanted drug testing, drug testing,
drug testing, drug testing because it stays in your blood
for a long time. It's not like alcohol. I don't
like when people compare to alcohol because it's not like alcohol.
That stuff gets you high and keeps you high for
a long time. Even though people, the people who use
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it and they're on it, I don't appreciate their opinion
on whether or not they're high. I think they're still high,
like a day or two, a long time after they
use it.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
But all right, but I gotta let you run. I
get packed. Calls behind you too, Thanks you soon, Thank
you much. Let me go to Betty in the boat.
Betty got a little late here. Want to sneak you in,
but I've got to be got to be quick tonight.
Go ahead, Betty.
Speaker 8 (32:24):
I'm against the cafes. And in the boating said, did
you say.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
You're against them? Betty, you said you're against them?
Speaker 8 (32:34):
Yeah, against them primarily because of the impact of second
hand smoke to the non consumer, but in the voting industry.
If I get boarded by the US Coast Guard and
I who they find drugs on my boat, I lose
my vessel. It's a ten thousand dollars finding, five years
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in jail. I'm on federal waters.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
I gotcha, and I got you. I've forgotten about that,
to be honest with you.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
Okay, And New Hampshire does not permit marijuana as a
land as a property owner up there, you're a mandated
self reporter. If your renter is using and you know
it and you don't report it, you lose your property
ten thousand dollars fying five years in jail.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
That's that's in the live free or die state.
Speaker 8 (33:32):
Bingo. Yeah, okay, And I you know, I just I've
seen a change traffic patterns and people's driving behaviors, and
there's more aggression on the highways today than I've ever
seen in my sixty two years of driving.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I can on that point too, Betty.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
You hit them all, then go ahead, you know if
I So, if I go someplace and I and I
have a lung condition and there's smoke, I want to leave.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Yeah, But on the on the cannabis shops, on the
on the cannabis cafes, you would know what you're walking into.
I mean, one of the things about restaurants now is
that you can't smoke cigarettes. So therefore, if you're in
a restaurant and someone lights up, they're gonna be told to,
you know, to put it on get out. But cigar
or p yeah, you're not going to be affected by that.
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Second hand smoke in the cannabis cafe because you're probably
not going to enter the premises right thing.
Speaker 8 (34:40):
Though, I'm not going afire. I value my lunch too much.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
All right, Betty, I got you in here. We'll talk soon, Okay.
Should be is whether we'll clear up by the next
day or so.
Speaker 8 (34:52):
Okay, it's gonna be fine until Friday, and then it's
gonna turn around again with high winds and then we'll
be fine the first to next week. And I hope
you and your family are a both well. All well,
take care.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Of the dog absolutely absolutely. I'll bring Mustard bye some
day and say hello, thanks, Betty.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
Talk to you absolutely, take here by, right.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Next up is Steve in Franklin, Massachusetts. Steve, you're next
on Nightside. We got we're getting tight.
Speaker 9 (35:24):
Go ahead, Hi Dan, Happy New Year in happy holidays.
And I'm a long time listener, but having called in
a while. But you know, you're talking about the cafes
and where they can smoke it. I mean, I'm against
smoking in marijuana and it's a federal crime. And uh,
(35:50):
I was just saying that they're gonna smoke it, and
shouldn't they allow like water pipes for people that don't
have come passionate use, because I understand the water pipe
cools the tobacco, cools the marijuana. I mean, people with
a esophageo cancer. Shouldn't they have shouldn't they allow water
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pipes for compassionate use.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I have no clue to be really official to do
that one. I wish I could offered opinion. I think
they have these hookah pipes, but I'm not I'm not
a hooka pipe guy, so I can't help you there either.
We're not talking about compassionate use here. We're talking about
basically taking marijuana.
Speaker 9 (36:33):
But I mean, if they're gonna smoke it, I thought
a water pipe cools the tobacco, and it cools the marijuana,
and you want to burn your esophagus, and that might do.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
But that's a little off topic here because they.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
Have one up town, and I guess I went in
there to buy something for tobacco or something for my brother,
and I didn't see any water pipes, and I remember
water pipes cooled it.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Okay, Well that's all You've You've got a lot of
good information about water pipes, and I want to get
one more caller in see what he has to say
as well, Steve, callmore often. We'll talk soon. Thank you much.
Another Steven Gamebri Steve, you're at the end of the line.
Normally they're going.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
To have marijuana cafes. I would like to be able
to go to a bar and have a cigarette with
my martini if I drank. I don't drink anymore. But
it seems inconsistent to allow marijuana cafes but now allowed
tobacco cafes.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Well, it's amazing when you think about it, because there
was a push you can't go to a And by
the way, I'm not a smoker. I don't smoke cigarettes,
never smoke cigarettes. And I was always bothered by cigarette smoke.
Speaker 6 (37:47):
By your father's cigarette smoke. You what by your father's
cigarette smoke.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh, I was horribly bothered by that.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
I really yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
I mean how many decades did he smoke?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Do you think smoke most of his life? He went
cold Turkey in nineteen sixty four when the Surgeon General
report came down. But he's a World War Two veteran.
I suspect he probably spoke for thirty years. They all
smoked when they're in World War two. Yes, two and
a half years in what was called the CBI China
Burmer in India. But for him, Wow Smith rather, smoking
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really bothered me and I just never I never took
to it at all.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
But Dan, don't you think if they allow marijuana bars,
they should allow a bar where someone could go in
and have a beer and a cigarette and shine on
the front.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Well, no, no, I'm with I'm going to agree with
you on this. I'm enough of a libertarian say there
should be restaurants in which smoking is allowed. I'm not
going to patronize that restaurant. But that allows you to
go and have your martini and smoke a cigarette enjoy
a meal. But if I want to put aside my
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concerns about cigarettes and enjoy a meal with you and
try to sit away from the cigarette smoke, that's my decision.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Or if I decide not to smoke and go to
a non smoking restaurant with you, that would be my
decision too.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
Exactly exactly, So, I was in favor of two types
of restaurants. Open up the restaurant and the owner can
either can either be smoking or non smoking people. Not
one of these where over the corner the smokers consis.
But again that's that was too rational for Massachusetts. And
again I say that as a viril anti smoker.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Huh, yes, Dan, you know if they you know, be
interesting because I bet you if you have a marijuana bar,
you won't be allowed to smoke tobacco in it.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
I'm almost certain of that, and we will discuss that
subject another night.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
But for this one, generally speaking, people smoke Middle Eastern
people smoke tobacco in hookahs. But you could smoke marijuana
in a hookah anything, but generally it's tobacco.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
Yeah. Well, thank you very much for that information. I
know nothing about that, and you've you've provided me with
some information. I'm more edified as a consequence of the
phone call.
Speaker 6 (40:10):
As always, you're too kind, as I always say, take
care Dan.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Thanks Bell. When we get back, going to change topics,
going to change topics here a little bit, and we're
going to talk about something else. Should jaywalking in Massachusetts,
which is still against the law, should that be decriminalized?
I have very mixed mind on this one. We'll talk
to you in a minute, in a few minutes, right
after the ten o'clock news dial up right now six one, seven, two, five, four,
(40:37):
ten thirty six, one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty
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