January 1, 2025 • 37 mins
Dan discussed the New Orleans attack that occurred early New Years Day, killing 15 people. Former Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis joined him.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Amma Friedman, thank you very much. We welcome our listeners
to our first edition of Nightside twenty twenty five. Before
we start, let me just thank my friend Morgan White,
who was sat in for me for the last week
and a half, which has allowed me to recover from
whatever the heck I had bronchiitist, upper respiratory infection, whatever.
(00:31):
And we had planned a show tonight was intended to
be fairly light, kind of an easing back into twenty
twenty five. But I will tell you that it's changed
a little bit because of what has happened early this
morning in New Orleans. We will get to all of
(00:51):
that in just a moment. Remind you my name is
Dan Ray. I'm the host of Nightside, heard most every
Monday through Friday night right here in WA Boston's news Radio.
Dan Cantano is behind the boot tonight. In the Boot
tonight because Robber's on vacation and Dana do a great
job and the story of the day, as I say,
will in intended and we may get to some of
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these topics later. Things. You know, there would be a
little lighter things like New Year's resolutions. What have I
been dealing with? And have any of you been dealing with?
This horrific cough and cold, It doesn't seem to go away.
And also remembering Jimmy Carter, a president who I spent
a lot of time with, some time with both before
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he was president, while he was president, and after his president.
But the big story of the day overwhelms all of that,
and that is this horrific terrorist attack, clearly terrorist attack
in New Orleans, which has now taken the lives of
fifteen people, fifteen Americans who were in the French Quarter
last night welcoming the new year. All of us were
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welcoming it on our own way. And who better to
talk about this briefly? But my next guest, my first guest,
my only guest tonight, form a Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis,
who himself was in charge of the Boston Police Department
at the time of the marathon bombing back in April
of twenty thirteen. And so, and first of all, happy
New Year to you and yours. But what a horrific
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way to start the new year here in America with
a terrorist attack like this I'd love to just open
up with your thoughts. I mean, you've seen it up
close and personally before you told me that you recently,
I guess had lunch with the sheriff in Harris County, Texas,
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where I guess search warrants and investigations of being conducted
tonight to find out what the real story was behind
this fellow who took the lives of fifteen people. Welcome
back to the Night's side of Davis. Sorry about the
long introduction.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Oh no worries. Dan, It's great to talk to you
as always, and you know, it's great to talk to
you on the first day of the year, but tragic
that it's about this topic. So we've been dealing with
it all day today and it was a heck of
a way to get woke up this morning.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, I'm sure that you must have, you know, flashbacks
to what we went through here in Boston in a
little over ten years ago, little over now, almost twelve
years ago when you come to Sapril as you watched
television today and I know that you were on some
of the network newscasts. How could this happen? It looks
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to me like they were preparing for the Super Bowl,
and they kind of let their guard down. I guess
there were certain I'm not familiar with the term bullyards,
which are those steel pipes sticking up out of the
ground in front of the State House and elsewhere that
would become very familiar with. Those were in the process
of being replaced, so they were not on Bourbon Street,
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which gave this guy every opportunity to swing around the
police cars which were blocking the intersections and and do
what he came to do.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Right. Yeah, we we we actually deal with ballards a
lot in my line of business because we're constantly doing
inspections of of businesses and corporations to make sure that
they're secure. And and these devices really do protect you
from a threat from a motor vehicle. Sometimes it's accidental,
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somebody just losing control of the car, but we use
them and recommend them to companies all the time. And
and it, you know, it seems as though there was
a decision made to change them out, and and and
and instead of putting temporary ballats in or some other
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device which you can what you can get your hands
on fairly easily, they decided to just park a police
cruiser in the intersection and as we saw, this suspect
was able to sneak his way around onto the sidewalk
and passed the car quite frankly before the police officer
even realized what was going on. From the looks of it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, I saw that that videotape. And by the way,
you know, for those who are unaware, you now have
a have a company which consults with corporations with I'm
sure states and cities about what you have through your
experience become an expert in and that is that is security.
(05:30):
What's the name of the is it uh at Davis.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Wood Davis Company at the end with Davis Company.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, So, so this happens. It's it's inconceivable, but it
happens more frequently. This guy apparently served in the US Army.
He had a couple of stants, one with the regular
Army and went to Afghanistan, was deployed to Afghanistan UH
and then came back and spent a few years in
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the I guess the Texas Army reserve a Texas national card.
This is this is eerily familiar with the Fort Hoods
shooter Nadal Hassan of two thousand and nine, a US
major who who who slaughtered troops inside Fort Hood does?
(06:20):
How does this happen that you know from your experience
that someone who obviously serves in our military for a long,
extended period of time somehow can get radicalized and go
off and do something like this to fellow Americans, fellow
human beings.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Right, it is a terrible thing to consider and something
that shouldn't follow. I mean, people take an oath to
the loyalty to the company, to the country. They are,
you know, literally risking their lives to protect the country,
and then something happens and and you know, the the
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concept of home grow own island extremists is something that
the Justice Department and the FBI have been preaching about
for many years now. And anybody can be corrupted. I
spoke to a good friend who's in the intelligence community,
and he said something I thought resonated, which which is,
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you know, we train these guys and our worst nightmare
is that they take their training and use it against us.
And that happened in Oklahoma City, and it just apparently
has happened again.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Now, yeah, I forgot Oklahoma City. Obviously. Timothy McVeigh full
remember of the military, he became some sort of a
right wing extremist. And Nadal Hassan, by the way, who's
still on death row for the ford Hood shooting, and
he was not one of the federal death row inmates
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who were who were pardoned by President Ford rather President
Biden a week or so. Yeah, what are you hearing about.
I'm hearing a lot of chatter here about this might
be a broader conspiracy that this might not be the
traditional lone wolf. He had the IIS flag I guess,
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covered in with some sort of a jacket on the
back of a car, but he was still flying the
IIS flag. But there's some suggestion that they were IEDs
planted around the city, and I believe that there's they're
looking at, probably I guess his home where he lived,
somewhere in Houston, in the Houston area. I know it's
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always tough to speculate here, but is your sense that
there may be more to this than meets the eye.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, the FBI has said definitively that there are more
people that they are investigating on this. It's a wider
conspiracy than just one person. So you have to take
them at their ward. Although I will say that there's
a lot of misinformation that occurs in the first twenty
four hours of these incidents, so I think it's important
to sort of hold you hold your opinions until we're
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certain that that they were in fact other bombs. You know,
when we responded to the marathon, and I teach this
to other police departments around the world, a lot of
people who ran from the scene of the bombing dropped
backpacks and bags and other things, and when we first
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got there, our bomb squad was already clearing each one
of those packages because it's a common terrorist tactic to
leave follow up devices. We must have had dozens of
reports of bombs that day and they all turned out
to be false. So it does take a while to
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sort out the the you know, the the chaos from
from from what the real facts are. But we are
hearing that there were two other devices, and if he
had those planted by someone, then clearly there's a conspiracy
and that's extremely troubling.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, it will take some time to figure it out,
but and I appreciate you coming on and on short
notice tonight, but I just felt this was something that
we that we really did need to talk about. So
we may be back to you later on during the week,
and let's hope that they can get to the bottom
of this and figure out I woke up this morning
and was they flipped on WBZ and heard everything went
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fine in Boston last night, but I realized very quickly
that it didn't go fine in New Orleans. Thanks so
much for joining us tonight, Ed Davis, former Boston Police commissioner. Again,
the name of your company now that you need the business,
it's it's Davis and Company.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Is that the name again, Davis Company?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, but thank thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's always great to talk to you, and I can
I took your listeners again.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Thanks very much, Ed Davis.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
All right, sure, thanks.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Thanks. Happy New Year. It is not a happy New
Year in large parts of this country as a result
of this, and so I have kind of reworked our
schedule tonight, and I would like to talk about this
because it is the it's the new story of the day.
So I have some thoughts, but I'm interested in your
thoughts as well. Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
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triple eight nine to nine ten thirty or six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. What was your reaction tonight
this morning when you woke up and you realized terrorism.
It looks as if a brand of a international terrorism
with a with from a homegrown terrorist has once again
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impacted the lives of many families around this country this evening,
this New Year's Day, a horribled way to start off
New Year's We'll get to phone calls and we'll talk
about this for a while, because I think it's something
that people need to need to vent about. We'll be
back on night Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Place Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So I do want to hear from all of you,
but I just want to very quickly try to hit
upon some of the implications here that I see. One one,
the suspect who's now dead, shamsud Din Jabbar, forty two.
He's a US citizen. I guess he was born in Texas.
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I don't know anything about his family's background. But again
according to the Associated Press, h that I'm that I'm
relying upon, uh he had he drive drove his pickup
truck into a crowd of New Year's revelers in on
Bourbon Street. Was around three point fifteen this morning on Wednesday, morning.
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Initially I thought, Okay, this guy probably was drinking all night,
finally summoned the courage early today to do this. But
now it looks a little different to me. It looks
to me like he might have picked three fifty deen
in the morning. Maybe maybe the crowds were thinned out
a little bit. Maybe he felt that he could do
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the maximum damage to a crowd there was a little
thinned out. Potentially, maybe he thought that there might have
been a shift change with the police, might have caught
people off guard that the night had transpired, the New
Year's had been wrung in. I don't know it. Certainly
he thought about it a lot more than initially was suggested.
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So consequence of all of this, the Sugar Bowl Bowl Game,
the Sugar Bowl Game, which was to be played tonight
at the Superdome in New Orleans, has been postponed till
tomorrow night. That involves some you know, pretty important professional
I should say, college football teams, both of which both
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teams have a lot of people who a fan base.
We're beginning to get a little information on some of
the victims of this horrific crime, and just it just
shows how that terrorism he's not targeting a military installation,
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as Nadal Hassan was back in two thousand and nine.
He's going after Americans who are celebrating New Year's Eve.
Amongst the victims that we know of at this point,
and of course we will become familiar with all of
their names over the next couple of days. A young
eighteen year old woman, Nikira Didot aspiring to be a nurse.
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Thirty seven year old father of two, a guy named
Reggie Hunter from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and one that caught
my eye. A fellow whose name is getting a lot
of publicity at this point. His name is Tiger Beck,
former high school and college football player from Louisiana. He
died Wednesday morning, according to the local media outlets. He
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played at Saint Thomas Moore Catholic High School in Lafayette, Louisiana.
He attended high school there and then went on to
play football at Princeton. Graduated from Princeton in twenty twenty one.
He was working as an investment trader at a New
York brokerage firm. His football coach said Wednesday he'd been
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texting with Tiger Beck's dad, sharing memories with the player
who was a school kick returner and receiver from twenty
seventeen to twenty nineteen. And he said he might be
the first Tiger to ever play for Princeton, although of
course they are the Tigers, and that nickname described him
as a competitor. The school's nickname is the Tigers. He
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was somebody that somehow, like in the key moments, just excelledon.
Was full of energy, full of life. His brother is
a reportedly a top wide receiver in Texas Christian University.
So probably at three point fifteen in the morning, there
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were very few people, you know, over the age of
forty still out having a good time. And when we
see the ultimate names, and hopefully it is no more
than fifteen, although there were dozens of others injured, and
they just upped the fatality count from ten to fifteen.
Hopefully there will be no more than fifteen. But my
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fear is that is probably not true. All right, your
thoughts are welcome. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty, triple eight
nine to nine, ten thirty. I'll talk about this as
long as you want. I think that not to ignore
this tonight would have been an oversight. Uh, it's not
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the way I wanted to start the year. It's not
the way you want to start the area that but
please feel free to join me. I hope that they
can catch every as Louisiana Senator John Kennedy said that
they if there are co conspirators, there's anyone who supported him,
embedded this crime, Let's catch him, Let's catch them all,
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and let's find out where this this group, if it
was it was something more than a lone wolf, where
this group came from, how they coalesced, and how far
and how how far the tentacles of the group reached.
That's not too much you ask. Our large forcement authorities
are on it. Let's hope they do their best job possible.
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This is horrific. This is on the level in many
respects of the Boston Marathon. This is New Orleans Boston Marathon.
Back on Nightside, right after the news break, at the
bottom of the hour, it's Nightside's news Radio. Well, we
are talking about the terrorism attack in New Orleans. Not
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the way that I wanted to start the new year,
not the way I'm sure any of you wanted to
start the new year. But let's get to the call.
Six one seven four ten thirty six one seven nine
ten thirty. We'll start it off with Gene and Everett. Gene,
I don't know what we can say about this, but
i'd love to get your reaction to it.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Okay, So here's the thing. First. First thing I wanted
to mention is that NBC News and other news outlets
have reported a little maybe dinner time, that the truck
in New Orleans in the rental that was outside of
the Trump Place in Las Vegas were both rented from
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the same company, which makes me suspicious. Anyway, I think.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I think what I heard on that Gene, was that
the same app was used to rent the truck. Now
I'm not exactly sure what that means, but this seems
to be that connection there is here. But I gotta
tell you, I'm a little skeptical of that, only because well,
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I don't know. I was I heard the same thing
you said, uh, And I know that this this truck
also had been reported crossing the border from Mexico at
some point. So there'll be a lot of stuff that
we'll get out there, but I don't know what it
means until the investigators right, pull it, pull it together,
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you know, No.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I understand, but that is that is a sign possibly,
So that's one thing. The other thing is that the
Tesla vehicle in Vegas near the Trump right out front
actually looked like it was on the sidewalk yes building,
which was weird. And and that they did find some
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kind of firework explosive like looking things in the vehicle,
so they'll be able to get information from that, which
is good. Whereas we also know over in uh, the
the other I forgot where it was.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
The second well, the thing in New Orleans. The thing
that that that strikes me on that is that the
thing in New Orleans was obviously intended to maximize the damage,
the damage the death toll, right. And they were driving
down Bourbon Street at three o'clock in the morning, and
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anyone's ever been on Bourbon Street and I have people
are there at all hours of the night. It's open
entertainment district. And it seems to me that if we
it may have some sort of link to the Tesla
and Trump and in the Trump Hotel or whatever. However,
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it would seem to me that if you were planning
to to conduct a terrorist attack, that was going to
the gravity of which was going to kill potentially, you know,
dozens of people. It's already fifteen and injured dozens. Would
you want to also be at the same time messing
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around blowing up at Tesla in front of Trump's a
Trump Well property, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Well, I'll answer that, But the thing is I feel
that I feel there's there's more of them out there.
I feel like there might be some more things happening.
I really do, and don't forget.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
The authorities would agree with you.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I think planted devices Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well they said that. I asked ed Davis about that
by the way off air, and he's he said that
oftentimes when something of this magnitude happens, they check security
cameras and they'll see people acting suspiciously, and oftentimes when
they go out and they approach these devices, whatever they
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might be, they don't want to take a risk, and
so they will blow it up. So, if let's say
someone I don't know, you know, was was drunk and
they put their bag down on the on the on
the street corner, uh, the authorities might say, we're not
going to open that bag, We're just going to blow
it up. And assume it's an I.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
D so well.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
As Ed said, let's let's see where the investigation lies.
But you made some interesting points.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
And can I can I say one quick thing I feel,
I feel what can help with this type of thing
is I think that the Fedral government should have a
regional training for all states and train them on what
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the city's need to do when they have any kind
of events, and what they need to do when there's
ever anything that looks strange like a tesla packed up
on a sidewalk or whatever. Because these not all cities
in town and not all states know what to do,
and we need to all be doing the same thing.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Well, certainly it's all all the big cities. I think
there's three hundred and fifty one cities in towns in Massachusetts.
There's a lot of communities that are not going to
be targeted. You know, they target big events, they target
things like the Boston Marathon.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
But the target things like state New Years.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, okay, thanks, you appreciate yours always.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Night you two.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Good night. Let me go to Lewis in Quinsey. Lewis,
you're next to the nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
How are you doing.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I'm doing fine. Didn't didn't expect to start our night
side year on this topic, but here we are.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
What's your take on I know I feel bad too,
it's really bad. But in an indirect way, did you
get me kind of passed away? What if? What if
he had stood up to the shop all those years ago?
Look at the problems that have come because of the
Crenati and the fanatics. Lab you're doing which suicide Barber's
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which is a philosophy. What a mistake he made? What
do you think about it? Look back forty years and
it's hard to stop a suicide Barber?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, well again with with Without going deep into the
arrival of the Ayatola. You know, the Ayatola had been
in exile for a long long time, and when the
time was right, he flew. I believe it was from
Paris uh to Tehran and at that point the Shah
fled Uh and just as Asad's government collapsed a couple
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of weeks ago in Syria, Iran collapse. The government of Iran,
the Shah's government. Basically, it was like a deck of cards,
it just collapsed. So I don't know that Jimmy Carter
could have done much. I think that there might have
been a failure of our intelligence organizations in not realizing
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how fragile the Shah's government really was, and all it
took was the arrival of the Ayatola to basically complete
the revolution in Iran. And I think a lot of that.
I think a lot of that, Lewis. If you recall
back in the early seventies and into the mid seventies,
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we as a country, after what had gone on in
Vietnam and what had gone on with the Frank Church
Committee and with Watergate, we had kind of turned inwards
and we had said, hey, let's just worry about America.
And I think that it was more than Jimmy Carter.
I think it's tough to place it at the desk
of the press. I realized, as Harry Truman said, the
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buckstops here.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
But I think it was.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Much more of a failure of our intelligence agencies to
understand what was going on in Iran. We installed the Shajs,
you know, back in the nineteen fifties, and because of that,
it generated a lot of ill will towards us. But interesting,
interesting to bring us back to that point, because ever
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since the Eyetola, the Eyetola Homini. He brought nothing but
misery to the people of Iran, into the world, into
the world.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You know, maybe I'm just saying maybe I used to
read books about what if? What if?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
You know what, I'm a big what if guy uh Lewis,
and that is what if. Let's say any presidential election
in your lifetime in my lifetime turned out differently. So
let's just pick up let's let's let's pick uh an election.
Let's assume that Jimmy Carter hadn't won and Gerald Ford
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was re elected. Uh, you probably never would have had
Ronald Reagan, you know, I mean if that's funny. Yeah, well,
it's just if you look at this, I mean, if
let's say Mike Decaccas had beaten George Bush uh nineteen
eighty eight, Uh, there would have been no Bill Clinton
presidency because I think that.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
By Goldwater, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
If Goldwater had been elected, uh, you know, Goldwater was
a Republican, he was a long shot Republican. He then
would have been challenged in sixty eight. There would have
been no Richard Nixon because Goldwater would have been president
until sixty eight and Richard Nixon would have aged out.
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I think as a potential president. So yeah, I like that.
What if game too, Lewis? I I we we could,
we could compare notes.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Somenight, Okay, happy to do your dad.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Happy New Year, Lewis, appreciate you call. Thank you much.
Let me go. Well, you got to take a break.
I got a couple of open lines six one, seven, two, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I'd like to talk about this. It's again not my
choice this morning, but it is becoming a bigger story.
The death toll has increased from ten to fifteen, and
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now it appears that this is maybe maybe more than
the action of a lone wolf. How do we deal
with this? How do we deal with it? I think
that with the change of administration in January later this month,
now what twenty days from now? I think that if
I were Nadal Hussein Nissan Nadal, the major major major Nadal,
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sitting on death row, I would think that this is
not going to help me survive the arrival of the
Trumpet presidency. I suspect that some of the people that
Joe Biden left on death row, once their repeals are out,
they're going to be dealt with pretty quickly. And I
think that that cowardly major that killed Nadal Hussein, the
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American soldiers at Fort Hood in two thousand and nine,
I think his days are number. Back on Night's side
were phone calls. The only best line right now is
six one seven nine.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Right after this, Now back to Dan Ray line from
the Window World Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I'm back to the calls. Go, let's go to John
and act and John, your reaction to this tragedy, tragic
terrorist attack in New Orleans.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Oh, it's a mess. It's a mess. So I'm calling.
And it was just coincidence that when I got ready
to call, you already had somebody on. You were talking
about the rent share company. So I think this is interesting.
I don't have any reason necessarily to believe that the
two incidents in Las Vegas and New Orleans are related,
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but the rent share is an interesting aspect. And I've
used one of the big rent share companies, Turo, three times,
once in Charleston, once in Minneapolis, and once in Southampton, England. Okay,
and do you know how they work, because it's kind
of interesting.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I do not, and I very much appreciate your calling
and I hope you'll explain it to me in my
audience because I am unfamiliar with this.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Okay, So it's it's it's sort of like Uber, and
so it's it's rent sharing. Let's assume I have an
extra car, okay, I Uh, so I sign up with
with a rent share company and offer my car at
whatever price I choose. And uh people, you know, the
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users go online and they look for a car that
of the kind that they want. The reason I've used
it is I drive a Tesla and I and that's
a and that's one easy way to be sure you
get to rent a Tesla only.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I want to ask you a question. How many rent
share I mean, there's a zillion in airbnbs, okay, so
how many you know? Well known rent share company you mentioned?
The name of this one was Curo qu.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
I r O heiro t U r O. That's the
only rent share company I know of. And I don't
know how many companies there are like Airbnb, you know,
and everybody knows Uber and probably a lot of people
know Lyft. I don't know how many other companies they
are are. Beyond that. Turo is the one that I've used.
I don't know if that's the one that was used
in this case. I haven't heard the name, and I
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don't know how many there are. But again, like Uber okay,
there are thousands and thousands of independent people okay who
offer their cars for rent through Turo, just like Uber
has thousands and thousands of drivers. So the cars don't
(31:56):
belong to Tiro. The people don't work for Tiro. They
just like Airbnb okay, list their cars for as available,
and you sign up to rent the car, and you know,
you provide your driver's license, and you rent the car.
And here's the key thing that makes me realize that
(32:16):
these are idea that better than that, This is better
than hurts for a terrorist or anybody going to do
any any crime, whether it's terror or or any crime
that invalls a vehicle. You don't go somewhere, you know,
like you don't go to an agency to get the car.
(32:37):
They tell you an address that the car will be at,
which which may be where the person who owns it lives,
or it just may be a place where he likes
to keep it parked.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And you drive, I'm on the I'm on the site
now to a row to U R O Uh. And
so the caller, I think it was Gene from Everett,
was suggesting that there was potentially a connection between the
fact that what happened in Las Vegas with the Tesla
blowing up or whatever catching fire, Uh, and the horrific
(33:07):
events in New Orleans, that that might link them. I
think what you're telling me is that's not likely going
to link them. It just is that. That's that's two,
it's it's it's it probably do you probably see it
as no no connection at all. Did he lose him?
(33:29):
Did we lose him? John? If you call back, we'll
pick you up on the other line on the other
other side. Okay, of the of the nine o'clock news,
call us back, John. I wanted to get your answer
to that question. Patrick is in Washington, d C. Patrick
next on Nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
I'm very sorry for all the news here. I wanted
to be able to welcome you back under different circumstances
and thank you. They had a load to do and
cheer everybody on. This is not our favorite subject. Yes,
I do want to hear what that gentleman has to say.
So I knew who he calls back.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, it was I think what he was saying, was
that that it's fairly common. John is called back. Hold on,
stay right there, Patrick, I will come back to you
in one second. John, We lost you there for a second.
I was asking you the question. It sounds to me
like you're saying that this is probably nothing more than
a coincidence because a lot of people are using this
(34:25):
particular app. Now, is that what the.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
New incidents are Possibly nothing more than a coincidence. But
the app is ideal because you don't actually necessarily even
meet the person. You could come up with fake identification
and rent the car and show up and get the
car and nobody sees you and you're not tracked. And
this is another thing that I think is important. Okay,
(34:51):
so the government isn't going to have a list of
all license plates that belong to rental cars. Nothing identifies
the car as a rental car, either on the car
or through its license plate, or through some sort of
sticker on the window. There's it just looks like a
completely private car.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
So what's conceivable, what you're telling me is that the
guy that you know basically effectuated all of the carnage
on Bourbon Street last night could have picked this car
up from some person in Houston, Texas who's he never met,
never seen before. And and maybe that's why they're looking
(35:31):
at an address in Houston. It may have nothing to
do that must just be some person who rented their truck.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
U know that the address in Houston has nothing to
do with it, but they're they're probably looking to see
if they have cameras so they can see if it
was the same person that they killed who picked up
the car.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
M interesting. Okay, John, really good call. Thank you very much.
Thank you caller of the night so far. Thanks John.
I appreciate call more often. Okay, thanks, bye bye. All right,
let me get back to Patrick. Patrick, we only got
about a minute left here. I can hold you over
if you want to be held over, well.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
I would like to do that because I'd like to
talk with you on this and I'm gonna move quickly
once we get into the after the hours.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah. Just I thought that that John's call and the
fact that he called back is interesting. He's basically making
the case that what a great way for somebody. You know,
you you rent your your third car, you rent your
regular car, and all of a sudden you look at
television realize it's being driven down Bourbon Street by a terrorist. Interesting,
(36:40):
interesting theory. I was up until a couple of minutes ago,
I had never heard of Touro. So we'll talk with
Patrick on the other side. Patrick, stay right there. Here
comes to nine o'clock News. If you would like to
reinforce what John had to say, or if you have
a comment, feel Fraace. Here's the line six one, seven, two, five,
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four ten thirty six one seven nine three one ten
thirty one hour down, more than eight hundred to go
in twenty twenty five. Will be back on nightside right
after this
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Amma Friedman, thank you very much. We welcome our listeners
to our first edition of Nightside twenty twenty five. Before
we start, let me just thank my friend Morgan White,
who was sat in for me for the last week
and a half, which has allowed me to recover from
whatever the heck I had bronchiitist, upper respiratory infection, whatever.
(00:31):
And we had planned a show tonight was intended to
be fairly light, kind of an easing back into twenty
twenty five. But I will tell you that it's changed
a little bit because of what has happened early this
morning in New Orleans. We will get to all of
(00:51):
that in just a moment. Remind you my name is
Dan Ray. I'm the host of Nightside, heard most every
Monday through Friday night right here in WA Boston's news Radio.
Dan Cantano is behind the boot tonight. In the Boot
tonight because Robber's on vacation and Dana do a great
job and the story of the day, as I say,
will in intended and we may get to some of
(01:12):
these topics later. Things. You know, there would be a
little lighter things like New Year's resolutions. What have I
been dealing with? And have any of you been dealing with?
This horrific cough and cold, It doesn't seem to go away.
And also remembering Jimmy Carter, a president who I spent
a lot of time with, some time with both before
(01:35):
he was president, while he was president, and after his president.
But the big story of the day overwhelms all of that,
and that is this horrific terrorist attack, clearly terrorist attack
in New Orleans, which has now taken the lives of
fifteen people, fifteen Americans who were in the French Quarter
last night welcoming the new year. All of us were
(01:57):
welcoming it on our own way. And who better to
talk about this briefly? But my next guest, my first guest,
my only guest tonight, form a Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis,
who himself was in charge of the Boston Police Department
at the time of the marathon bombing back in April
of twenty thirteen. And so, and first of all, happy
New Year to you and yours. But what a horrific
(02:19):
way to start the new year here in America with
a terrorist attack like this I'd love to just open
up with your thoughts. I mean, you've seen it up
close and personally before you told me that you recently,
I guess had lunch with the sheriff in Harris County, Texas,
(02:39):
where I guess search warrants and investigations of being conducted
tonight to find out what the real story was behind
this fellow who took the lives of fifteen people. Welcome
back to the Night's side of Davis. Sorry about the
long introduction.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Oh no worries. Dan, It's great to talk to you
as always, and you know, it's great to talk to
you on the first day of the year, but tragic
that it's about this topic. So we've been dealing with
it all day today and it was a heck of
a way to get woke up this morning.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, I'm sure that you must have, you know, flashbacks
to what we went through here in Boston in a
little over ten years ago, little over now, almost twelve
years ago when you come to Sapril as you watched
television today and I know that you were on some
of the network newscasts. How could this happen? It looks
(03:35):
to me like they were preparing for the Super Bowl,
and they kind of let their guard down. I guess
there were certain I'm not familiar with the term bullyards,
which are those steel pipes sticking up out of the
ground in front of the State House and elsewhere that
would become very familiar with. Those were in the process
of being replaced, so they were not on Bourbon Street,
(03:57):
which gave this guy every opportunity to swing around the
police cars which were blocking the intersections and and do
what he came to do.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Right. Yeah, we we we actually deal with ballards a
lot in my line of business because we're constantly doing
inspections of of businesses and corporations to make sure that
they're secure. And and these devices really do protect you
from a threat from a motor vehicle. Sometimes it's accidental,
(04:29):
somebody just losing control of the car, but we use
them and recommend them to companies all the time. And
and it, you know, it seems as though there was
a decision made to change them out, and and and
and instead of putting temporary ballats in or some other
(04:50):
device which you can what you can get your hands
on fairly easily, they decided to just park a police
cruiser in the intersection and as we saw, this suspect
was able to sneak his way around onto the sidewalk
and passed the car quite frankly before the police officer
even realized what was going on. From the looks of it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, I saw that that videotape. And by the way,
you know, for those who are unaware, you now have
a have a company which consults with corporations with I'm
sure states and cities about what you have through your
experience become an expert in and that is that is security.
(05:30):
What's the name of the is it uh at Davis.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Wood Davis Company at the end with Davis Company.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, So, so this happens. It's it's inconceivable, but it
happens more frequently. This guy apparently served in the US Army.
He had a couple of stants, one with the regular
Army and went to Afghanistan, was deployed to Afghanistan UH
and then came back and spent a few years in
(05:58):
the I guess the Texas Army reserve a Texas national card.
This is this is eerily familiar with the Fort Hoods
shooter Nadal Hassan of two thousand and nine, a US
major who who who slaughtered troops inside Fort Hood does?
(06:20):
How does this happen that you know from your experience
that someone who obviously serves in our military for a long,
extended period of time somehow can get radicalized and go
off and do something like this to fellow Americans, fellow
human beings.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Right, it is a terrible thing to consider and something
that shouldn't follow. I mean, people take an oath to
the loyalty to the company, to the country. They are,
you know, literally risking their lives to protect the country,
and then something happens and and you know, the the
(06:58):
concept of home grow own island extremists is something that
the Justice Department and the FBI have been preaching about
for many years now. And anybody can be corrupted. I
spoke to a good friend who's in the intelligence community,
and he said something I thought resonated, which which is,
(07:18):
you know, we train these guys and our worst nightmare
is that they take their training and use it against us.
And that happened in Oklahoma City, and it just apparently
has happened again.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Now, yeah, I forgot Oklahoma City. Obviously. Timothy McVeigh full
remember of the military, he became some sort of a
right wing extremist. And Nadal Hassan, by the way, who's
still on death row for the ford Hood shooting, and
he was not one of the federal death row inmates
(07:51):
who were who were pardoned by President Ford rather President
Biden a week or so. Yeah, what are you hearing about.
I'm hearing a lot of chatter here about this might
be a broader conspiracy that this might not be the
traditional lone wolf. He had the IIS flag I guess,
(08:13):
covered in with some sort of a jacket on the
back of a car, but he was still flying the
IIS flag. But there's some suggestion that they were IEDs
planted around the city, and I believe that there's they're
looking at, probably I guess his home where he lived,
somewhere in Houston, in the Houston area. I know it's
(08:34):
always tough to speculate here, but is your sense that
there may be more to this than meets the eye.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Well, the FBI has said definitively that there are more
people that they are investigating on this. It's a wider
conspiracy than just one person. So you have to take
them at their ward. Although I will say that there's
a lot of misinformation that occurs in the first twenty
four hours of these incidents, so I think it's important
to sort of hold you hold your opinions until we're
(09:06):
certain that that they were in fact other bombs. You know,
when we responded to the marathon, and I teach this
to other police departments around the world, a lot of
people who ran from the scene of the bombing dropped
backpacks and bags and other things, and when we first
(09:27):
got there, our bomb squad was already clearing each one
of those packages because it's a common terrorist tactic to
leave follow up devices. We must have had dozens of
reports of bombs that day and they all turned out
to be false. So it does take a while to
(09:48):
sort out the the you know, the the chaos from
from from what the real facts are. But we are
hearing that there were two other devices, and if he
had those planted by someone, then clearly there's a conspiracy
and that's extremely troubling.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Well, it will take some time to figure it out,
but and I appreciate you coming on and on short
notice tonight, but I just felt this was something that
we that we really did need to talk about. So
we may be back to you later on during the week,
and let's hope that they can get to the bottom
of this and figure out I woke up this morning
and was they flipped on WBZ and heard everything went
(10:28):
fine in Boston last night, but I realized very quickly
that it didn't go fine in New Orleans. Thanks so
much for joining us tonight, Ed Davis, former Boston Police commissioner. Again,
the name of your company now that you need the business,
it's it's Davis and Company.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Is that the name again, Davis Company?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah, but thank thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's always great to talk to you, and I can
I took your listeners again.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Thanks very much, Ed Davis.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
All right, sure, thanks.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Thanks. Happy New Year. It is not a happy New
Year in large parts of this country as a result
of this, and so I have kind of reworked our
schedule tonight, and I would like to talk about this
because it is the it's the new story of the day.
So I have some thoughts, but I'm interested in your
thoughts as well. Six one seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
(11:17):
triple eight nine to nine ten thirty or six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. What was your reaction tonight
this morning when you woke up and you realized terrorism.
It looks as if a brand of a international terrorism
with a with from a homegrown terrorist has once again
(11:37):
impacted the lives of many families around this country this evening,
this New Year's Day, a horribled way to start off
New Year's We'll get to phone calls and we'll talk
about this for a while, because I think it's something
that people need to need to vent about. We'll be
back on night Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
Place Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
So I do want to hear from all of you,
but I just want to very quickly try to hit
upon some of the implications here that I see. One one,
the suspect who's now dead, shamsud Din Jabbar, forty two.
He's a US citizen. I guess he was born in Texas.
(12:24):
I don't know anything about his family's background. But again
according to the Associated Press, h that I'm that I'm
relying upon, uh he had he drive drove his pickup
truck into a crowd of New Year's revelers in on
Bourbon Street. Was around three point fifteen this morning on Wednesday, morning.
(12:47):
Initially I thought, Okay, this guy probably was drinking all night,
finally summoned the courage early today to do this. But
now it looks a little different to me. It looks
to me like he might have picked three fifty deen
in the morning. Maybe maybe the crowds were thinned out
a little bit. Maybe he felt that he could do
(13:08):
the maximum damage to a crowd there was a little
thinned out. Potentially, maybe he thought that there might have
been a shift change with the police, might have caught
people off guard that the night had transpired, the New
Year's had been wrung in. I don't know it. Certainly
he thought about it a lot more than initially was suggested.
(13:30):
So consequence of all of this, the Sugar Bowl Bowl Game,
the Sugar Bowl Game, which was to be played tonight
at the Superdome in New Orleans, has been postponed till
tomorrow night. That involves some you know, pretty important professional
I should say, college football teams, both of which both
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teams have a lot of people who a fan base.
We're beginning to get a little information on some of
the victims of this horrific crime, and just it just
shows how that terrorism he's not targeting a military installation,
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as Nadal Hassan was back in two thousand and nine.
He's going after Americans who are celebrating New Year's Eve.
Amongst the victims that we know of at this point,
and of course we will become familiar with all of
their names over the next couple of days. A young
eighteen year old woman, Nikira Didot aspiring to be a nurse.
(14:39):
Thirty seven year old father of two, a guy named
Reggie Hunter from Baton Rouge, Louisiana, and one that caught
my eye. A fellow whose name is getting a lot
of publicity at this point. His name is Tiger Beck,
former high school and college football player from Louisiana. He
died Wednesday morning, according to the local media outlets. He
(15:03):
played at Saint Thomas Moore Catholic High School in Lafayette, Louisiana.
He attended high school there and then went on to
play football at Princeton. Graduated from Princeton in twenty twenty one.
He was working as an investment trader at a New
York brokerage firm. His football coach said Wednesday he'd been
(15:25):
texting with Tiger Beck's dad, sharing memories with the player
who was a school kick returner and receiver from twenty
seventeen to twenty nineteen. And he said he might be
the first Tiger to ever play for Princeton, although of
course they are the Tigers, and that nickname described him
as a competitor. The school's nickname is the Tigers. He
(15:47):
was somebody that somehow, like in the key moments, just excelledon.
Was full of energy, full of life. His brother is
a reportedly a top wide receiver in Texas Christian University.
So probably at three point fifteen in the morning, there
(16:07):
were very few people, you know, over the age of
forty still out having a good time. And when we
see the ultimate names, and hopefully it is no more
than fifteen, although there were dozens of others injured, and
they just upped the fatality count from ten to fifteen.
Hopefully there will be no more than fifteen. But my
(16:29):
fear is that is probably not true. All right, your
thoughts are welcome. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty,
six one seven, nine, three one ten thirty, triple eight
nine to nine, ten thirty. I'll talk about this as
long as you want. I think that not to ignore
this tonight would have been an oversight. Uh, it's not
(16:53):
the way I wanted to start the year. It's not
the way you want to start the area that but
please feel free to join me. I hope that they
can catch every as Louisiana Senator John Kennedy said that
they if there are co conspirators, there's anyone who supported him,
embedded this crime, Let's catch him, Let's catch them all,
(17:15):
and let's find out where this this group, if it
was it was something more than a lone wolf, where
this group came from, how they coalesced, and how far
and how how far the tentacles of the group reached.
That's not too much you ask. Our large forcement authorities
are on it. Let's hope they do their best job possible.
(17:37):
This is horrific. This is on the level in many
respects of the Boston Marathon. This is New Orleans Boston Marathon.
Back on Nightside, right after the news break, at the
bottom of the hour, it's Nightside's news Radio. Well, we
are talking about the terrorism attack in New Orleans. Not
(17:59):
the way that I wanted to start the new year,
not the way I'm sure any of you wanted to
start the new year. But let's get to the call.
Six one seven four ten thirty six one seven nine
ten thirty. We'll start it off with Gene and Everett. Gene,
I don't know what we can say about this, but
i'd love to get your reaction to it.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Okay, So here's the thing. First. First thing I wanted
to mention is that NBC News and other news outlets
have reported a little maybe dinner time, that the truck
in New Orleans in the rental that was outside of
the Trump Place in Las Vegas were both rented from
(18:41):
the same company, which makes me suspicious. Anyway, I think.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
I think what I heard on that Gene, was that
the same app was used to rent the truck. Now
I'm not exactly sure what that means, but this seems
to be that connection there is here. But I gotta
tell you, I'm a little skeptical of that, only because well,
(19:07):
I don't know. I was I heard the same thing
you said, uh, And I know that this this truck
also had been reported crossing the border from Mexico at
some point. So there'll be a lot of stuff that
we'll get out there, but I don't know what it
means until the investigators right, pull it, pull it together,
(19:29):
you know, No.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
I understand, but that is that is a sign possibly,
So that's one thing. The other thing is that the
Tesla vehicle in Vegas near the Trump right out front
actually looked like it was on the sidewalk yes building,
which was weird. And and that they did find some
(19:50):
kind of firework explosive like looking things in the vehicle,
so they'll be able to get information from that, which
is good. Whereas we also know over in uh, the
the other I forgot where it was.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
The second well, the thing in New Orleans. The thing
that that that strikes me on that is that the
thing in New Orleans was obviously intended to maximize the damage,
the damage the death toll, right. And they were driving
down Bourbon Street at three o'clock in the morning, and
(20:29):
anyone's ever been on Bourbon Street and I have people
are there at all hours of the night. It's open
entertainment district. And it seems to me that if we
it may have some sort of link to the Tesla
and Trump and in the Trump Hotel or whatever. However,
(20:51):
it would seem to me that if you were planning
to to conduct a terrorist attack, that was going to
the gravity of which was going to kill potentially, you know,
dozens of people. It's already fifteen and injured dozens. Would
you want to also be at the same time messing
(21:13):
around blowing up at Tesla in front of Trump's a
Trump Well property, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (21:18):
Well, I'll answer that, But the thing is I feel
that I feel there's there's more of them out there.
I feel like there might be some more things happening.
I really do, and don't forget.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
The authorities would agree with you.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I think planted devices Yep.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well they said that. I asked ed Davis about that
by the way off air, and he's he said that
oftentimes when something of this magnitude happens, they check security
cameras and they'll see people acting suspiciously, and oftentimes when
they go out and they approach these devices, whatever they
(21:59):
might be, they don't want to take a risk, and
so they will blow it up. So, if let's say
someone I don't know, you know, was was drunk and
they put their bag down on the on the on
the street corner, uh, the authorities might say, we're not
going to open that bag, We're just going to blow
it up. And assume it's an I.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
D so well.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
As Ed said, let's let's see where the investigation lies.
But you made some interesting points.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
And can I can I say one quick thing I feel,
I feel what can help with this type of thing
is I think that the Fedral government should have a
regional training for all states and train them on what
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the city's need to do when they have any kind
of events, and what they need to do when there's
ever anything that looks strange like a tesla packed up
on a sidewalk or whatever. Because these not all cities
in town and not all states know what to do,
and we need to all be doing the same thing.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Well, certainly it's all all the big cities. I think
there's three hundred and fifty one cities in towns in Massachusetts.
There's a lot of communities that are not going to
be targeted. You know, they target big events, they target
things like the Boston Marathon.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
But the target things like state New Years.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, okay, thanks, you appreciate yours always.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Night you two.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Good night. Let me go to Lewis in Quinsey. Lewis,
you're next to the nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
How are you doing.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
I'm doing fine. Didn't didn't expect to start our night
side year on this topic, but here we are.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
What's your take on I know I feel bad too,
it's really bad. But in an indirect way, did you
get me kind of passed away? What if? What if
he had stood up to the shop all those years ago?
Look at the problems that have come because of the
Crenati and the fanatics. Lab you're doing which suicide Barber's
(24:01):
which is a philosophy. What a mistake he made? What
do you think about it? Look back forty years and
it's hard to stop a suicide Barber?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, well again with with Without going deep into the
arrival of the Ayatola. You know, the Ayatola had been
in exile for a long long time, and when the
time was right, he flew. I believe it was from
Paris uh to Tehran and at that point the Shah
fled Uh and just as Asad's government collapsed a couple
(24:37):
of weeks ago in Syria, Iran collapse. The government of Iran,
the Shah's government. Basically, it was like a deck of cards,
it just collapsed. So I don't know that Jimmy Carter
could have done much. I think that there might have
been a failure of our intelligence organizations in not realizing
(25:00):
how fragile the Shah's government really was, and all it
took was the arrival of the Ayatola to basically complete
the revolution in Iran. And I think a lot of that.
I think a lot of that, Lewis. If you recall
back in the early seventies and into the mid seventies,
(25:21):
we as a country, after what had gone on in
Vietnam and what had gone on with the Frank Church
Committee and with Watergate, we had kind of turned inwards
and we had said, hey, let's just worry about America.
And I think that it was more than Jimmy Carter.
I think it's tough to place it at the desk
of the press. I realized, as Harry Truman said, the
(25:42):
buckstops here.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
But I think it was.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Much more of a failure of our intelligence agencies to
understand what was going on in Iran. We installed the Shajs,
you know, back in the nineteen fifties, and because of that,
it generated a lot of ill will towards us. But interesting,
interesting to bring us back to that point, because ever
(26:05):
since the Eyetola, the Eyetola Homini. He brought nothing but
misery to the people of Iran, into the world, into
the world.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
You know, maybe I'm just saying maybe I used to
read books about what if? What if?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
You know what, I'm a big what if guy uh Lewis,
and that is what if. Let's say any presidential election
in your lifetime in my lifetime turned out differently. So
let's just pick up let's let's let's pick uh an election.
Let's assume that Jimmy Carter hadn't won and Gerald Ford
(26:46):
was re elected. Uh, you probably never would have had
Ronald Reagan, you know, I mean if that's funny. Yeah, well,
it's just if you look at this, I mean, if
let's say Mike Decaccas had beaten George Bush uh nineteen
eighty eight, Uh, there would have been no Bill Clinton
presidency because I think that.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
By Goldwater, Well.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
If Goldwater had been elected, uh, you know, Goldwater was
a Republican, he was a long shot Republican. He then
would have been challenged in sixty eight. There would have
been no Richard Nixon because Goldwater would have been president
until sixty eight and Richard Nixon would have aged out.
(27:30):
I think as a potential president. So yeah, I like that.
What if game too, Lewis? I I we we could,
we could compare notes.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Somenight, Okay, happy to do your dad.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Happy New Year, Lewis, appreciate you call. Thank you much.
Let me go. Well, you got to take a break.
I got a couple of open lines six one, seven, two, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
I'd like to talk about this. It's again not my
choice this morning, but it is becoming a bigger story.
The death toll has increased from ten to fifteen, and
(28:03):
now it appears that this is maybe maybe more than
the action of a lone wolf. How do we deal
with this? How do we deal with it? I think
that with the change of administration in January later this month,
now what twenty days from now? I think that if
I were Nadal Hussein Nissan Nadal, the major major major Nadal,
(28:31):
sitting on death row, I would think that this is
not going to help me survive the arrival of the
Trumpet presidency. I suspect that some of the people that
Joe Biden left on death row, once their repeals are out,
they're going to be dealt with pretty quickly. And I
think that that cowardly major that killed Nadal Hussein, the
(29:00):
American soldiers at Fort Hood in two thousand and nine,
I think his days are number. Back on Night's side
were phone calls. The only best line right now is
six one seven nine.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Right after this, Now back to Dan Ray line from
the Window World Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I'm back to the calls. Go, let's go to John
and act and John, your reaction to this tragedy, tragic
terrorist attack in New Orleans.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Oh, it's a mess. It's a mess. So I'm calling.
And it was just coincidence that when I got ready
to call, you already had somebody on. You were talking
about the rent share company. So I think this is interesting.
I don't have any reason necessarily to believe that the
two incidents in Las Vegas and New Orleans are related,
(29:49):
but the rent share is an interesting aspect. And I've
used one of the big rent share companies, Turo, three times,
once in Charleston, once in Minneapolis, and once in Southampton, England. Okay,
and do you know how they work, because it's kind
of interesting.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
I do not, and I very much appreciate your calling
and I hope you'll explain it to me in my
audience because I am unfamiliar with this.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
Okay, So it's it's it's sort of like Uber, and
so it's it's rent sharing. Let's assume I have an
extra car, okay, I Uh, so I sign up with
with a rent share company and offer my car at
whatever price I choose. And uh people, you know, the
(30:40):
users go online and they look for a car that
of the kind that they want. The reason I've used
it is I drive a Tesla and I and that's
a and that's one easy way to be sure you
get to rent a Tesla only.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I want to ask you a question. How many rent
share I mean, there's a zillion in airbnbs, okay, so
how many you know? Well known rent share company you mentioned?
The name of this one was Curo qu.
Speaker 6 (31:11):
I r O heiro t U r O. That's the
only rent share company I know of. And I don't
know how many companies there are like Airbnb, you know,
and everybody knows Uber and probably a lot of people
know Lyft. I don't know how many other companies they
are are. Beyond that. Turo is the one that I've used.
I don't know if that's the one that was used
in this case. I haven't heard the name, and I
(31:33):
don't know how many there are. But again, like Uber okay,
there are thousands and thousands of independent people okay who
offer their cars for rent through Turo, just like Uber
has thousands and thousands of drivers. So the cars don't
(31:56):
belong to Tiro. The people don't work for Tiro. They
just like Airbnb okay, list their cars for as available,
and you sign up to rent the car, and you know,
you provide your driver's license, and you rent the car.
And here's the key thing that makes me realize that
(32:16):
these are idea that better than that, This is better
than hurts for a terrorist or anybody going to do
any any crime, whether it's terror or or any crime
that invalls a vehicle. You don't go somewhere, you know,
like you don't go to an agency to get the car.
(32:37):
They tell you an address that the car will be at,
which which may be where the person who owns it lives,
or it just may be a place where he likes
to keep it parked.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
And you drive, I'm on the I'm on the site
now to a row to U R O Uh. And
so the caller, I think it was Gene from Everett,
was suggesting that there was potentially a connection between the
fact that what happened in Las Vegas with the Tesla
blowing up or whatever catching fire, Uh, and the horrific
(33:07):
events in New Orleans, that that might link them. I
think what you're telling me is that's not likely going
to link them. It just is that. That's that's two,
it's it's it's it probably do you probably see it
as no no connection at all. Did he lose him?
(33:29):
Did we lose him? John? If you call back, we'll
pick you up on the other line on the other
other side. Okay, of the of the nine o'clock news,
call us back, John. I wanted to get your answer
to that question. Patrick is in Washington, d C. Patrick
next on Nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
I'm very sorry for all the news here. I wanted
to be able to welcome you back under different circumstances
and thank you. They had a load to do and
cheer everybody on. This is not our favorite subject. Yes,
I do want to hear what that gentleman has to say.
So I knew who he calls back.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah, it was I think what he was saying, was
that that it's fairly common. John is called back. Hold on,
stay right there, Patrick, I will come back to you
in one second. John, We lost you there for a second.
I was asking you the question. It sounds to me
like you're saying that this is probably nothing more than
a coincidence because a lot of people are using this
(34:25):
particular app. Now, is that what the.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
New incidents are Possibly nothing more than a coincidence. But
the app is ideal because you don't actually necessarily even
meet the person. You could come up with fake identification
and rent the car and show up and get the
car and nobody sees you and you're not tracked. And
this is another thing that I think is important. Okay,
(34:51):
so the government isn't going to have a list of
all license plates that belong to rental cars. Nothing identifies
the car as a rental car, either on the car
or through its license plate, or through some sort of
sticker on the window. There's it just looks like a
completely private car.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
So what's conceivable, what you're telling me is that the
guy that you know basically effectuated all of the carnage
on Bourbon Street last night could have picked this car
up from some person in Houston, Texas who's he never met,
never seen before. And and maybe that's why they're looking
(35:31):
at an address in Houston. It may have nothing to
do that must just be some person who rented their truck.
Speaker 6 (35:37):
U know that the address in Houston has nothing to
do with it, but they're they're probably looking to see
if they have cameras so they can see if it
was the same person that they killed who picked up
the car.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
M interesting. Okay, John, really good call. Thank you very much.
Thank you caller of the night so far. Thanks John.
I appreciate call more often. Okay, thanks, bye bye. All right,
let me get back to Patrick. Patrick, we only got
about a minute left here. I can hold you over
if you want to be held over, well.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
I would like to do that because I'd like to
talk with you on this and I'm gonna move quickly
once we get into the after the hours.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah. Just I thought that that John's call and the
fact that he called back is interesting. He's basically making
the case that what a great way for somebody. You know,
you you rent your your third car, you rent your
regular car, and all of a sudden you look at
television realize it's being driven down Bourbon Street by a terrorist. Interesting,
(36:40):
interesting theory. I was up until a couple of minutes ago,
I had never heard of Touro. So we'll talk with
Patrick on the other side. Patrick, stay right there. Here
comes to nine o'clock News. If you would like to
reinforce what John had to say, or if you have
a comment, feel Fraace. Here's the line six one, seven, two, five,
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