January 3, 2025 • 45 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
Chad Finn – Boston Globe Sports Reporter with his Boston sports predictions for 2025.
4th Annual Rally 4 Nally Polar Plunge to take place at Carson Beach on Saturday, January 4th - Honoring Cathy Nally who died of ALS is her son, Dan Nally, who is carrying on her legacy of advocacy for ALS Research & Pete Frates Foundation.
Lean Into the Unknown and Unleash Your Inner Misfit - Secrets to ‘Failing Your Way to Success’ with author James Sweeney.
Patricia Bonis - Author of “Jeddah Bride”. U.S. Woman’s Wild Tale of a whirlwind romance with the son of a wealthy Saudi family & how she found her children 14 years after billionaire dad's kidnap plot.
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
Chad Finn – Boston Globe Sports Reporter with his Boston sports predictions for 2025.
4th Annual Rally 4 Nally Polar Plunge to take place at Carson Beach on Saturday, January 4th - Honoring Cathy Nally who died of ALS is her son, Dan Nally, who is carrying on her legacy of advocacy for ALS Research & Pete Frates Foundation.
Lean Into the Unknown and Unleash Your Inner Misfit - Secrets to ‘Failing Your Way to Success’ with author James Sweeney.
Patricia Bonis - Author of “Jeddah Bride”. U.S. Woman’s Wild Tale of a whirlwind romance with the son of a wealthy Saudi family & how she found her children 14 years after billionaire dad's kidnap plot.
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm busy Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks so much, Nicole. Hope you have a great weekend.
As we wender away towards Saturday, we'll get you to
about eleven fifty eight and you can handle it the
rest of the two minutes. The rest of the way.
My name's Dan Ray, the host of Nightside, heard every
Monday through Friday night. In some form of fashion, as
they say what I'm off, generally Morgan White sits in
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which we really very much appreciate. Morgan did a lot
of work the last week and a half here on Nightside,
and I appreciate that. But I'm here be here all
of next week. So just stick with us, and we'll
try to give you interesting and entertaining and informative programs,
simple as that. That's sort of the formula of success.
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Rob Brooks is back in the control room in his
normal position, and Marita is also back. She helped produce
the program today, or produce the program today. And we
have a couple of topics coming up later on tonight
then I think we'll interest you. One is the arrival
of congestion pricing. If you're heading to New York, it's
going to cost in a car, it's going to cost
you more money beginning Sunday, depending upon where you might
(01:12):
drive in the Big Apple, we'll talk about a new
law in Florida which is intended to protect firefighters, police
officers and first responders as they respond to people in
need of assistance. And later on, but ask him your
New Year's resolutions are they still intact? Well, it was
good to see the stock market having a comeback today.
I'd like to see the Red Sox and maybe the
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Bruins and certainly the Patriots have a comeback like the
stock market had today. But it's always up and down
at the stock market and in sports. And here with
his twenty twenty five Boston sports predictions, Boston Globe sports
reporter Chad Finn. Chad, I read your article and you're
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out in the limit a couple but it's an interesting piece.
How are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I'm good, Dan, great talking to you. I fully expect
my crystal ball to be as faulty as ever this
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well, let's uh, there's one here that you know again.
I like sports. Sports are not my daily work. I
don't make my living covering Sports, But I'd like to
see them give Jarrod Mayo a second opportunity here. I
think he got delt to bad a bad hand. But
you think he's done.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I do, But I've been really wish you washing on that.
Two weeks ago I wrote that he should keep his job,
and then it went so badly against the Chargers last Saturday,
including putting rookie quarterback Drake Mayo is really the one
hopeful thing on their offense in a bad situation where
he had taken a couple of hits to the head.
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They had him out there up down thirty points late
in the game, and that kind of felt like a
little bit of a tipping point with me to you know,
to whether or not may ultimately Mayo ultimately keeps his job.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, that's so, this is not what you wish. These
are your predictions, what you believe will happen. Just to
make it very clear. Okay, Well, maybe you could be both,
or maybe it could be both. I guess I hope
they give him a second chance, that's all. He's a
pretty nice guy, and I think you get dealta bad hand. Okay,
the Celtics are going to repeat. I'm not so sure
about that. They've looked a little shaky in December they did.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, and they're running into a tough part of the
schedule right now with a bunch of West Coast games.
Full disclosure, I wrote that section while they were beating
the Toronto Raptors by fifty four points, So.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, that was very might have been a little bit.
What was the over on that? What was the over
on the Toronto Raptors game? Thirty points four?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh no, no, no, I know it was fifty four,
And I thought it was interesting that I guess four
of the six fifty plus wins have come under coach Missoula.
Interestingly in the last yeah, a few years.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, that's one of the differences between this year and
last year. Was last year they crushed some teams. I
think they've set a league record for thirty point victories.
I believe they were ten, and they've had a few
this year. That Toronto game was won. But they haven't
been quite the same team this year. They haven't had
their best six players together for more than six games
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because christeps Porzingis has been hurt. But I have total
faith in this team that once it comes to playoff
time and the stakes are the highest that they'll play
their best. They I think they're in that you know
that trust last year with the way they handled themselves
in the postseason, ultimately winning the championship.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
No. Absolutely, So you're predicting the Brewers won't make the playoffs.
They only have forty four points at the halfway mark,
eighty eight. Probably won't do it, but I think their
goaltending should get them there. Maybe they won't too well.
But why do you think you're saying Pastor and Acts
only gonna won't won't reach thirty goals. I've tried to
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look up how many he has right now. Was he
got about fifteen?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I think it was thirteen when I wrote that. I
don't know I think what he's said since, but yeah,
he said thirty at least thirty every year of his career,
going back to believe twenty sixteen, other than the COVID
year where everything was abbreviated, he hasn't quite been right.
And I think part of the issue of this team
is that they've got guys playing just sort of a
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level up from where they need what they really are.
A guy who's a third liner is playing in the
second line. Second liner is on the first line, and
Jeremy Swaven the goalie, came into camp lay because of
his contract situation, took him over the time to find
his stride. And I think they get overtaken by the
Lightning once the Lightning has played as many games as
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the Bruins and Bruns will be looking at a wild card.
It's about fifty to fifty where they get one in probability.
And I just don't think they're that good. I don't
think this is a great team.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, the reason I think they might make the playoffs
is they had that Western Canadian trip out of the way,
so they don't have to go back to Winnipeg. They
don't go back to Calgary, even Vancouver. I think they
caught Vancouver on an off night, so we'll say, okay,
of course the Red Sox. We saved the best for last.
I love the line about predict Craig Breslow will someday
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answer a question without the question of requiring tooth of
services and a copy of the Baseball Analytics for Dummies
to comprehend the answer. These yalely guys, these these these
the Yale guys, they they have some big words, don't.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They They do, and US sportswriter guys don't know a
lot espersonally. Now, you'd never know talking to Kirk Breslo
that he pitched more than ten ten seasons in the
major leagues because he doesn't sound like a guy's ever
been in a clubhouse. He's just incredibly smart, but and articulate,
but in a jiargony kind of way that sometimes gets
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in the way of his the messages intending coming out
the way that he wants. And if he could be
a little more plain spoken, I think it would serve
him well, and maybe maybe the fan base enough simple
sports writers would would understand his thinking a little better.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Two things I like. I like the signing of Bueller,
the guy from the Dodgers. And I also think that
Richard fitz showed me a lot in his four starts
last September. I don't he did. I don't know if. Yeah,
I mean, I think he could be a sleeper, as
you know in the four or.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Five Yeah, I mean, you can't make a better impression
than he did down the stretch last year. And the
one thing that we know is going to be better
about this team as a starting pitching where there were
so many questions going into last year, some guys emerged.
Tanner hawku barely made the starting rotation out of spring training,
ended up being the best starting pitch. Now they've got Bueler,
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They've got Garrett Crochet, who's just he's fantastic to watch.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Durability has been a question in his career and he
doesn't have a long track record, but he's a spectacular
pitcher and he's going to be their ace if if
he's healthy. So there, they're in a better spot there
with the rotation than they've been in quite a while,
and that's to me, signifies progress. They still need some
help on this team, but it's not been a lost
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off season like so many have in recent years.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, you'd like to see them sign Bragman, and my
question is what do you do with him? Put him
at second base? What do you do with Grissom?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean Grissom. I like him. I think they
have questions about whether he's strong enough and whether he's
going to be a durable player. But he's very young
still and they give up Chris Sale to get him,
so they thought highly of him. They've Christian Campbell, who's
their number two prospect, a terrific young hitter, but I
think gets there this year. That was one of my
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pretty he's a Rookie of the Year candidates. But I
Bregman fits in a few ways. I think you can
play them at third base and DH Devers more Devors.
It's been a real detriment defensively at third base the
last few years. Bregman's a leader out. Corr really likes
him from their time together in Houston, and he's a
good defensive player and no matter where you play him,
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and this team has been a bad defensive team for
too long now. So he's a declining hitter in it
in a way, but he's still a productive one and
he's got a lot of other stuff going for him.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well, Chad Finn, You've got a lot of stuff going
for you. We've covered the waterfront here and we'll have
to do an update. Well we'll do We'll do a
few updates during the year, but we'll see, we'll see
what happens. And I love the piece and I love
when to come on the show. You had a lot
of fun to talk with and I love love talking sports.
I know just enough about each of these professional sports
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teams to be able to have a conversation with guys
like you, and I really enjoy talking to you. Chad.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Thank you so much for coming on any time. Dan,
so it's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We'll talk soon, all right, Chad Finn the Boston Globe
his twenty twenty five predictions. Great piece. I hope you
get a chance to read it. We come back, we're
going to talk about an event that is coming up tomorrow,
which is a polar plunge, and it will be a
polar if they break the ice. Now this one is
rally for Nelly. We will explain. We're going to talk
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with Dan Nelly who lost his mom to als, and
they're going to try to raise some money tomorrow. And
if you'd like to be brave and say you took
the polar punge, we'll get all the information for you
coming up right after the break.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Delighted to be joined by Dan Nallly. Dan lost his
mom to als in twenty twenty two. Kathy Nally was
diagnosed with this horrific condition. Back in October of twenty twenty,
Dan Nally joins us because we're going to talk about
an event. It's tomorrow morning, so it's kind of a
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little short notice, but we noticed it. And Dan Nally,
first of all, welcome to Night's side.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Oh, thank you so much for having me on, Dan,
I really appreciate it our pleasure.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
This is the fourth annual rally for Neale and it
will be held on January fourth. Is January fourth? Was
that your mom's birthday?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
It was? Yeah, so definitely a very special special day
for us for multiple reasons, celebrating her birthday and just
the legacy that she left for us in Balley.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Thisvesnon. Try to make sure your mom's name was Kathy.
Tell us a little bit about your mom.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, Mom's name was Kathy. She was the absolute best.
Could not have asked for a better mother grown up
And as you mentioned, she was diagnosed unexpectedly as it
is for everyone with als, back in twenty twenty, and
in the two years that she was baling that disease,
she never complained. She just you know, kept her head
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up and said, what can I do to try to
raise awareness to make sure that other people don't have
to go through this themselves? And she was just always
that positive, bright spirit and impact so many lives that
she met, so many lives that she hasn't met, and
just you know, we're trying to carry on that legacy
of her.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So the legacy continues tomorrow morning from well, the event
is from ten to two. It starts at Carson Beach
in South Boston, so everybody knows what Carson Carson Beach
is and I guess the Plunges is at eleven o'clock,
but the event begins at ten with registration and all
of that. Tell us about what people need to do.
(12:49):
Obviously it's a little late to have people try to
check it out, but you got a website. Give us
the website and tell us what folks can do to
support the cause, whether they're going to be able to
attend or not.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah, whether or not you're able to attend. We have
a website with all the details. Give butter like a
stick of butter, dot com, flash rally, the number four
and nally which has all the details. But as you said,
if you want an extra cold bath to start your
day tomorrow, we'll be there bright and early ten ham
registration at Carson Beach. We'll be running into the water
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at eleven am. We'll be running out even faster at
probably eleven you know one, and then we have reception
over at Amoris in South Boston.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
After that, everybody be able to warm up at a reception,
that that is for sure. So this is the fourth year.
Has it always been held at Carson Carson Beach?
Speaker 5 (13:43):
It has been. Yeah. We grew up just outside of Boston.
My sister and I lived in South Boston for a
while and so had gone down to that beach for
you know, many years, and it just seemed like the
perfect spot to hold this, you know, with the whole
Boston style in the background there. Get to say, that's
always meant a lot to us, and yeah, I couldn't
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think of a better place to hold it.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So how is it easily accessible? I've gone to some
of these events when I was younger, and you know,
whether they're road races or again polar plunges, which are great.
Is there anything that people need to know who want
to get there, because if they've never been to Carson Beach,
I mean it's it's pretty easily accessible off of the
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Expressway and also off of Morrissey Boulevard, but parking pretty easy.
I know there's parking along the beach front there. Give
us a sense of what people might run into tomorrow.
Just just paint the picture for Since this is the
fourth I'm assuming that accessibility is pretty good.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Accessibility is usually very very good. As you said, it's
just off the highway, you've got parking right there. The
one year where accessibility was a bit of the problem
was actually our first year, when it snowed about a
foot the day before, and so we had the shovels
out right and early that morning getting everything prepared. Still
went off without a hitch. The feat were a bit
colder going into the water that was catched there, but
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no knock on woods. Should be very easy to find
parking and make it down to the beach tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And the funds that are raised people can donate. Is
is there a minimum that people are encouraged to contribute
a lot of the road races now, particularly a marathon,
if you're lucky enough to get a number for the
marathon and you want join one of the charitable teams
there there's an obligation in some reason, you know, because
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those those are valuable numbers. And marathons, what are people
expected to raise or is there an expectation does it matter?
I mean, I know that you're looking to raise forty
thousand dollars this year and you're well on your way
to that figure.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yeah, no minimum at all. I mean, whatever anyone can contribute,
we always appreciate it. And unlike the marathon, is a
much shorter run down to the water and back, so
hopefully makes a little bit easier on people.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
There's no heartbreak hill or anything like that. That's fine,
no heartbreak kill.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
I gotta say, come back up from the water. It
feels like heartbreak hill. Yeah, it's not much of an incline,
but it certainly feels like it.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Okay. And then at the am Rine's event afterwards, which
is also a big, a big part of the day,
there's lunch, there's cocktails. I think you got an auction
over there as well. So you're really hoping to have
a really full day celebrating in mom's life and also
contributing to the fight against als.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Right exactly, silent auction, raffle and just people all getting together.
And I think that's the biggest thing. Again, this is
an event to certainly raise funds for ALF at the
same time, It is a celebration of our mom and
just one incredible person she was, and even more so
tomorrow on her birthday. So we'll have a ki out there,
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we'll have a card. It's going to be a great day,
and we're hoping to raise a ton of money in
the process.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm going to ask a tear jerker question, Now, what
how old wuld have your mom been? How old would
your mom be tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
If you'd be Yeah, this would have been her sixty
fifth birthday.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, that's an awful young age to lose your mom.
Sixty five is not like what it used to be
many years ago. And she certainly raised a great sun.
That's what Sue. By the way, the contributions that you
raise are going to go to support a couple of
other great organizations. Tell tell us about that, because I
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want people to understand that this money is going to
help some great a great cause.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Absolutely, thank thanks for asking that. All the funds that
we raise are going to be split between two incredible
charities that both focus on als. The first is the
Peter Frady's Family Foundation, which just had their own plunge
last week and and raised a ton of money there
and they were so supportive of my mom right out
of the gates, providing her funds to make sure that
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she could stay in the Boston area she fought this disease.
And then Compassionate Care Als based out of Falmouth, another
terrific organization that really is is nationwide in terms of
providing resources to people battling als and sam as the
phrase Family Foundation. They were there from the start to
support my mom and and made those last two years,
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as you know, as fruitful as possible for all of us.
And you know, we're just hoping that other people can
continue to benefit from those two incredible charities.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
By the way, you folks have raised an incredible amount
of money in the you know, in the last three years.
I didn't want to embarrass you, but you guys have
raised three hundred and forty thousand dollars. So that is
a very serious fundraiser and one that that you have
uplish amazing things so far. The other thing we say,
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I got to ask you about if you go to
the website which is give butter dot com slash rally,
the number four nolly n a l y, very very
rhythmic there. Everybody, a lot of folks are wearing some
pretty fun uniforms or costumes. I guess would be the
(19:23):
weather with the way to describe it, what's the background
doing the costumes? Tell us about that.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Well, the first year, my mom had just this incredible
curly blonde hair, and so we thought it was a
nice little tribute to that as a surprise for her,
we'd all show up with these curly blonde wigs on.
And so you're a bunch of yeah, a bunch of
frosty frows going into the wire that first year, and
then it kind of spirals from that where people are like, Okay,
you know, instead of Foster fro whatef, I did this
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costumer that costume, And we've seen more creativity year for year.
There's a competition for the Golden Plunger Award very co toward.
It's not quite the Stanley Cup, but it's maybe just
a notch below it that goes up to the best
Best Dress Costume. So we'll be awarding that again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
That's great, Dannally, thanks so much again. Let's give that
website one more time. You go right ahead on behalf
of you mo. What's the website that people can go
to and contribute or go to and get information and
physically be in Carson Beach tomorrow morning between ten and twelve.
What's the website.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
The website again is www dot give butter dot com,
slash rally the number four and Nally and A L
L Y. Thank you again so much. Dan. I can't
begin to say how much we appreciate.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
This my pleasure. I can't begin to tell you how
much I appreciate you carrying on your legacy and raising
funds to find somehow a way to beat back this disease.
It is the cruelest disease that I can imagine amongst
a lot of cruel diseases. So again, congratulations, and I
hope that some of our listeners will we'll go and
make a donation. Thanks so much, Dan, appreciate it very much.
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Here your mom, I'm just looking down and smiling, particularly tomorrow. Okay,
thanks again, Thank you. You're welcome. All right, here comes
the news at the bottom of the hour, And when
we get back on the other side, we're going to
talk to a gentleman about failing your way to success.
May sound a little oxymoronic, but it's not failing your
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way to success with Jim Sweeney coming up right after
the news right here on wbz's Night Side. This is
Boston WBZ, Boston's news Radio. My name's Dan Ray.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It's nights Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Delighted to be joined by Jim Sweeney. Jim is an
entrepreneur who is founded, amongst of the things, fourteen healthcare companies,
including care Mark. But he has a book out, Creative
Insecurity is but it's uh. It's called Leaning to the
Unknown and Unleash your Inner misfit Secrets to Failing your
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way to Success Jim, as I said that in the
preview before the newscast, almost sounds a little oxymoronic, failing
your way to success, as some people say that military
intelligence and all of that. But it's entitled Creative Insecurity.
Tell us a little bit about yourself as an entrepreneur,
and tell us what lessons you learned along what I
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guess was occasionally a bumpy road.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Well, thank you for having me on. I'm happy to
ad just that issue and others as well. So I
think that you know, most people think about failure as
being in one extreme and success of being the other extreme.
And we want to fail to succeed rather, and my
view is that they're intertwined inexcurricably. You can kind of
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blink your fingers together in your hand, and you continue
to fail as you become successful. Your listeners are probably
familiar with the product WD forty. What's happened to be
the San Diego Company and I'm from San Diego. They
got the name w D forty. They're now in one
hundred and sixty seven countries with four hundred and ten
(23:17):
million dollars in revenue because they tried forty times to
get the formula right. That's how they get about the
name w D forty. They failed thirty nine times.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'll tell you this, WD four mirror success, Jim. I'll
tell you many one who has ever used WD forty.
It will do everything. I mean, I think the only
thing that doesn't do is make people's hair grow. It's
if you got a problem at home, spray a little
w D forty on it. Most of the time it
fixes it. So that's that is a great example. You know,
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Jim's funny when you talk about, for example, I don't
if you're a baseball fan or not, you from San Diego,
is that what you're telling me.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Yeah, I am okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You got pretty good basebe about day the padres and
they've failed a lot. But you know, if you're a
major League baseball player and you get to bat three
times and you strike out the first two times and
you get a single the third time, and you're hitting
three thirty three, if you keep that up for your career,
three thirty three put you in the Hall of Fame.
So you have to periodically fail. Tell us about a
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couple of your failures, maybe your most spectacular failure, and
then we can talk about some of your successes in
the book.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Well, my most objecular failure was the care Mark, which
I started and it went extremely well, and I took
a public and it went extremely well. The start split
a couple of times, and it was trading at about
thirty thirty sellers to share. Metcair called me and said,
you know you're doing home Parentual Electrician, which were reimbursing.
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Then you're also doing info electric and we decided that
that's like feeding people, so we're going to stop. We're
not going to pay for that. So and one day
my stock went from thirty to three as a result,
of that, and I had I realized that I'm not
a I'm not a hero on Wall Street. I'm also
not a bum. And so when I when the stock
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went down to three, I had to work for eight
quarters to get it up to forty five dollars this year.
So that's the example of you know, failing your way
to success.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well once again. You know when when someone knocks on
your door and says, the worst thing to hear is
I'm from the governments, that I'm here to help you.
And there was an example of what the government came
in and they were not there to help you. That
that is for sure.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Well, I could spend an hour talking about healthcare, because
help share is the five trillion dollars to your business decimated.
We had, we lose about we had, we waited about
a trillion, but that five trillion dollar business ranks the
last in terms of developed companies and countries in terms
of outcomes. So I could go on for hours about
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healthcare and what's along with that, more importantly, how to
fix it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Well, if you come up and fix it, you know,
one of the things that we're having problems with here
in the Boston area or in New England is just
to find a personal care physician is very, very difficult.
There's a shortage of personal care physicians.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
And well, one of the things the other problem there.
The other problem with that is that they're now promoting
your practitioners and position assistance to where they're now writing
prescriptions without any oversight from positions. There's a consequence. The
rate at which people are dying from medication erors is
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beyond anything you could possibly imagine.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Well, that's a great point, the most you'll ever go.
The thing that I'm also concerned about, and I've I've
done this story a couple of times, is that we
have law schools. I'm a lawyer as well as a broadcaster,
and it's easy to go to law school there's law
schools everywhere. It's very difficult to get into medical schools.
And there are a lot of young Americans who are
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eminently qualified to become doctors, you know, you know, personal
care physicians who have to go offshore to a lot
of these medical schools in the Caribbean. And I just
don't understand why we can't open more doors. But that's
a story for another time. Let's talk about your book, Okay,
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how long has it been out? Tell me about the
book and how's it doing.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
The book came out on December tenth, so it's just
been out a very short period of time. The most
important thing about the book. I didn't do the book
to make a nickel. I did the book because I
want to help influence people and what they can do
to get out of their own way to be successful.
That's the underpinning of the book. And I've been blessed
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with the fact that I've already had dozens of people
who say my life has changed as the guilt of
this book. And so to me, if I could affect
one person's life, I would say the book was successful,
and what we will see how successful it becomes. But
most importantly, how many people can make a difference in
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their life because of something to think the book. That's
my main objective. I say in the book that being
first is more important than being right. The reality is
you can only be first once, then you could be
right later, and you're never right when you start. You're
going to constantly pivot to get it to where it's right.
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I have something called the innovator's trifecta, which is a
triangle at the base of that triangle is humility. On
one other side of the triangle is vision, and on
the other is what I learned from the Navy fields,
which is the no quickening, which is you'll die before
you quit. If you're able to take that innovator's perfecta
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and apply it to a you're doing, I believe that
will greatly improve your ability be successful, while at the
same time asking yourself continuing the question of one am
I missing? One of I missing, and U versus a
great undoer. The whole bedrock of all of this is humility,
not hu verus. And to hire people who are better
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than you are, who wants your job. I do what
I call it pre mortemis. I think I am doned
that tournal. Maybe I didn't. But a pre mortem is
you interview so many you want to hire. At the
end of the interview, you predict why they will fail.
That's a pre mortem. And you don't do that because say, oh,
I told you so, that's why you failed, and so
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you can make sure that you help them avoid that
from being a failure, at the same time having them
write their own job description, so you break the job
around the person instead of mold it instead of trying
to mold a person to the job. My job is,
I have a one line job description. My job is
the CEO of a company is to make sure if
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you're more excited on Monday morning than you are on
Friday night, and that means you have the passion and
the excitement and you want to change the world and
make it a better place.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
All great, great points. Look, you also have I noticed
on your website you have something called the Contrarians Checklist,
and you offer this to people. They can get this
framework to evaluate your big ideas. So if they go
to your website, they can find the book. The website
(30:39):
is the name of the book, Creative Insecurity dot com.
That's a great easy website to remember. They can order
a copy. I assume it's available Amazon and all the
regular places. But again they should go down to the
bottom and says get this framework to evaluate your big ideas,
the Contrarians Checklist. I'm a bit of a contrarian myself,
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by the way, So I'm going to try to get
the Contrarians Checklist and you send that out to people
for free. They just have to give you an email
address and their first name, and you'll send this to
them for free, as I understand it. Correct, that's correct.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Yes, The Innovative checklist is a guideline that I believe
will help you and others examine what their idea and
go through the checklist, and it will help you address
all of the issues that I believe you need to
take your business to make it a success. I don't
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mean to be statypical when I tell you this, Robert.
Of the fifteen companies that I've started, I haven't had
one fail. I've never had a down rounds in financing
because I under promise and over deliver. And these are
all things that are a part of the Contrarians checklist
that I believe can help people like you and me
who are contrarians who want to be old a company
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and want to build a business, can go for that
checklist and greatly improve their odds of success.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, that's great, really nice to talk with you. Know.
One of the things that I like to stay I
like to avoid people. I know, if you've heard the
phrase often mistaken, never in doubt. I like to be
the opposite of that. I doubt, yeah, right, but I
like to be the opposite of that. And if you
say to me, is the sun going to rise tomorrow
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in the east. I will tell you the sun is
highly likely to rive, but he can never be one
hundred percent sure about anything because it might just not
rise in the east tomorrow morning, although it has a
very good track record. So again I think a little
insecurity in the way you think and the way you
approach ideas is valuable, even on something as certain as
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the sun rising in the east. Jim Sweeney, I really
appreciate it. Anybuddy of mine who used to play for
the Padres who was a Sweeney, Mark Sweeney, great baseball
player for many years with the San Diego Padres. So
you've got a great last name, that's for sure. Thanks Jim.
Great to talk with you. Good night, good night time.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
And I really appreciate enjoyed talking with you as well.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Thanks, Thanks very much. Dan. Rob's my producer. But that's
okay again, we all make mistakes, Thanks Jim. We come back.
But to talk with a woman who has a really
tough cautionary tale, Patricia Bonus. She has written a book
called Jetta Bride. Way do you hear this story coming up? Particularly? Well,
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it's a frightening story. I will explain it right after
the break here on night Side.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
All right, welcome back. The next guest that we're going
to talk to tells a story. He has written a book.
Her name is Patricia Bonus. I hope I'm pronouncing it correctly.
Is a bonus of Bonnis, Patricia, it's Bonus Bonus. Okay, Well, welcome,
welcome to Night's Side. You're a wealthy college graduate and
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spent obviously a lot of time in Boston, and you
fell in love with a gentleman from a far away country,
Saudi Arabia, and you have a tale to tell in
this book, which is an incredible story, and it's also
an incredible cautionary tale. It's gonna we cannot cover it
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in the few minutes that we have, but if you can't,
just outline for us. This is a wild tale of
a world win romance with the son of a wealthy
Saudi family and how you were separated from your children
for over fourteen years after he kidnapped your children. It's frightening.
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It's frightening what you went through. So just tell us,
give us a little sense of the story, if you'd
be so kind.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Oh, thank you, Dan, thank you for giving me this
opportunity to speak about Jeddah Bride my book. Yes, I
was at Wellesley and he was at Boston University School
of Management, and we met. And at the time, in
the late seventies early eighties, there was a huge I
don't know if there still is now, but there was
a huge international crowd of students from every country. Boston
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and it probably still is now was a magnet for
all of these international students, and so we really, you know,
it was great fun and everything was so exciting, and
I fell in love and he wanted to marry me,
and I did, and so I went to Saudi Arabia
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in like nineteen eighty as his wife. And it was
quite horrifying to you know. It was nothing I really expected,
no matter how much you would describe it. It was
like stepping into the Bible, like two thousand years ago,
and it was extraordinary. Things happened to me when I
was there that were terrifying. I witnessed things with my
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own eyes that were terrifying. I heard stories that were
even more terrifying from other ladies that lived there and
other people they.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Well, there were I don't know if there's still going on,
but there were public executions at that time.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
And I witness won myself when I was just walking
from my car to a store and I turned around.
I heard all these people screaming, and I looked and
there was a lady getting stoned, and they actually killed
her in front of me.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Right. And when they say stoned in Saudi Arabia, they're
not talking about marijuana. They're talking about stony. Literally, no, no,
I'm serious. Look, I want you to know, Patricia, I
might have crossed paths with you. I'm probably from that
I'm from that same generation. I was at Boston University
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law school back in the nineteen seventies and.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
They probably there at the same time.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And there were many of the clubs that you probably frequented,
were clubs that you go to Jason's on Clarendon Street
back in the day. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, you know so,
I mean those were all the hotspots around Boston. So
this guy, he went so far not only to try
to control you in a different culture, but then you
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were able to get your two children out of there,
but he kidnapped them here in America and our law
enforcement and our state department, they really weren't able to
help you.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
No, they weren't. And you know it's still that way.
People don't realize that I'm involved with an organization called
Find my Parent and this is going on all the time.
There is a Hague Convention that many countries find and
it controls international child abduction and custody issues. Saudi Arabia
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has not sign that still not and you really have
no I mean, you can't fight it. You cannot fight it.
When you're in that country, they'll just throw you in
jail and kill you. I mean, it just happens like that.
You'll disappear and nobody'll be able to find you and
that'll be the end of you. So I wasn't about to.
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I will never step one in that country again.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
And how long how long were you were you married
to this guy?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Well, let's see, like probably nine years, nine years? And
I did I waited to have children. You know, we
kept having these issues and I kept thing, should I shouldn't,
should I shouldn't? And then I did and then I
had two children and that was really you know, had
I not had the children, had they not been kidnapped.
I could have told this story a long time ago,
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my hair raising marriage to a Saudie, But once my
children were kidnapped, there was no way I was going
to make waves and make it worse.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
You've been able to re establish I guess through a
stroke of luck. You found out you were living in
New Jersey. But you found out that your son was
going to prep school here in New England.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
And yes, can you imagine? Yes, no, my son, Kareem
was in Culver Military Academy. It's a boarding school in Indiana.
I think Indiana, I don't think. I think that was
probably chosen because it was so kind of off the grid.
But I do know a lot of people whose kids
went there. But I didn't know this, and I until
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someone called me mysteriously in my office and told me,
your son is in the United States playing polo at
boarding school. And I looked up all the boarding schools
that had polo, and then I found a listen. Then
I gave it to a private investigator and they found
him and he was a graduating senior at that time.
And I could have driven, I could have jumped in
my car and run to Indiana that day, but I thought,
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wait a minute, waitmen, this is a military school. Who
knows what's happening, who knows if he'll even't accept to
see me? I thought, okay, let me wait. They found
he was going to go to Boston in the fall.
He was living in Fenway Park. He rented an apartment,
and I thought, that's a much better way to approach him.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Not in Fenway Park, but living and living in living
in what we call the Fenway area.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah, yeah, well Peterborough, Peterborough.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Peterborough Street. Sure, that's that's very close to the ballpark.
So you went unannounced, knocked on the door, and he asked,
who are you?
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Who told you?
Speaker 4 (40:37):
That's right? He was so shocked, he was really shocked.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
You have a good relationship with him. Is he still
in the States or has he gone back?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
No, he's gone back. He runs his family company. And
I can't say that I blame him. He's doing very
well and he's, you know, he's happy with his life.
My daughter, the younger one of the two, she lived
in the United States. Now, she actually came here and
she went to Wellesley of her own volition because her
mom had gone.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
There, I guess.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
And they accepted her. Actually, when she was sending in
her application, she told me, and I wrote a letter
to Wellesley and I don't know if it affected her admissions,
but I begged them. I said, this is my daughter.
I was a student at Wellesley and she's kidnapped. I
haven't seen her since she was two years old. I
hope you accept her. And they did accept her, and
she did graduate from Wellesley and I saw her at
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least once a month for the whole entire time that
she was a student there. So that was aing.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
And she's resettled or settled in the US and not
likely to go back to Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
I hope not likely. No, she's very happy here. Yes,
So it's a happy ending. Only the middle part is sad.
The first part was exciting, shocking, daring. The second part
was tragic. For fourteen years I was I didn't even know.
I couldn't even think.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I was what year did you reunite with you? So
if I could ask, I'm just trying to put it on.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
It was the year after nine to eleven, so what
would that be.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Two thousand, two thousand and.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Two to two thousand and one. It was September nine,
to eleven have happened a year ago, right now? Whatever
nine eleven was, yeah, and nine eleven nine.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Eleven two, Well, nine to eleven was nine eleven two
thousand and one because it was the first year in
the Bush administration, so you would have united in September
of two thousand and two. But you're still in contact.
Are you still in contact with good?
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (42:35):
What What is what is the caution? What is the
cautionary the caution that you would give to other young
American women who are thinking about doing what you did,
falling in love with someone from a country that whose
culture is so significantly different than ours?
Speaker 5 (42:54):
What?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
What?
Speaker 4 (42:54):
What?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
What would be your your message?
Speaker 4 (42:58):
My message is my method is probably don't do it.
But I'm not going to be that harsh. It's a
very difficult thing to do. It's very difficult in so
many ways. You have to give up so much of
what your expectations are and what you might have dreamt
for yourself. It's difficult with raising children, there's so many
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different approaches to it. Their way, our way, and especially
with the girls in some of these repressive countries.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
I would have had to fight.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
I mean, even if I had raised them. It never ends.
They don't want they don't want them to. You know,
a Muslim girl cannot marry anything but a Muslim man.
She could never be If my daughter married a Christian
man right now, she could never go back to Saudi Arabia.
They could cut her head off if she wants to.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That's what I don't understand. I see so many young
so called progressives in the streets demonstrating against Israel, and
uh uh And I'm a huge supporter of Israel, the
one beacon of hope in the Middle East that is
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actually in the twenty first century. So I hope people
buy your book and read your book and learn whatever
lessons Jetta Bride j E. D. D A. H. Bride.
It's available everywhere. Patricia. So nice to talk with you.
You sound like an awfully wonderful woman. Uh And I
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wish you all the best of success in life and
with this book. And I maybe somebody that can be
back and we could we could take some phone calls
from my listeners. We do our second one. Okay, I'll
have my producer get back in touch with you. Okay.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I love I love talking to people answering questions. It
really It really clears a lot of things. People have
a lot of those great options.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Patricia Author My Pleasure, author of Jedabride. Congratulations and having
the courage in the backbone to accomplish what you've accomplished.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
You're more than welcome. What a story. When we get
back right after the nine o'clock news, we're going to
talk about the concept of congestion pricing. Ladies and gentlemen,
It is coming to a downtown area near you. And
why do you hear? I think one of the dumbest
governors in America, Kathy Hokeel, talk about congestion pricing. It's unbelievable.
(45:27):
Stay with us.
It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm busy Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks so much, Nicole. Hope you have a great weekend.
As we wender away towards Saturday, we'll get you to
about eleven fifty eight and you can handle it the
rest of the two minutes. The rest of the way.
My name's Dan Ray, the host of Nightside, heard every
Monday through Friday night. In some form of fashion, as
they say what I'm off, generally Morgan White sits in
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of work the last week and a half here on Nightside,
and I appreciate that. But I'm here be here all
of next week. So just stick with us, and we'll
try to give you interesting and entertaining and informative programs,
simple as that. That's sort of the formula of success.
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Rob Brooks is back in the control room in his
normal position, and Marita is also back. She helped produce
the program today, or produce the program today. And we
have a couple of topics coming up later on tonight
then I think we'll interest you. One is the arrival
of congestion pricing. If you're heading to New York, it's
going to cost in a car, it's going to cost
you more money beginning Sunday, depending upon where you might
(01:12):
drive in the Big Apple, we'll talk about a new
law in Florida which is intended to protect firefighters, police
officers and first responders as they respond to people in
need of assistance. And later on, but ask him your
New Year's resolutions are they still intact? Well, it was
good to see the stock market having a comeback today.
I'd like to see the Red Sox and maybe the
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Bruins and certainly the Patriots have a comeback like the
stock market had today. But it's always up and down
at the stock market and in sports. And here with
his twenty twenty five Boston sports predictions, Boston Globe sports
reporter Chad Finn. Chad, I read your article and you're
(01:54):
out in the limit a couple but it's an interesting piece.
How are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
I'm good, Dan, great talking to you. I fully expect
my crystal ball to be as faulty as ever this
twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well, let's uh, there's one here that you know again.
I like sports. Sports are not my daily work. I
don't make my living covering Sports, But I'd like to
see them give Jarrod Mayo a second opportunity here. I
think he got delt to bad a bad hand. But
you think he's done.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I do, But I've been really wish you washing on that.
Two weeks ago I wrote that he should keep his job,
and then it went so badly against the Chargers last Saturday,
including putting rookie quarterback Drake Mayo is really the one
hopeful thing on their offense in a bad situation where
he had taken a couple of hits to the head.
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They had him out there up down thirty points late
in the game, and that kind of felt like a
little bit of a tipping point with me to you know,
to whether or not may ultimately Mayo ultimately keeps his job.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, that's so, this is not what you wish. These
are your predictions, what you believe will happen. Just to
make it very clear. Okay, Well, maybe you could be both,
or maybe it could be both. I guess I hope
they give him a second chance, that's all. He's a
pretty nice guy, and I think you get dealta bad hand. Okay,
the Celtics are going to repeat. I'm not so sure
about that. They've looked a little shaky in December they did.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, and they're running into a tough part of the
schedule right now with a bunch of West Coast games.
Full disclosure, I wrote that section while they were beating
the Toronto Raptors by fifty four points, So.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, that was very might have been a little bit.
What was the over on that? What was the over
on the Toronto Raptors game? Thirty points four?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Oh no, no, no, I know it was fifty four,
And I thought it was interesting that I guess four
of the six fifty plus wins have come under coach Missoula.
Interestingly in the last yeah, a few years.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, that's one of the differences between this year and
last year. Was last year they crushed some teams. I
think they've set a league record for thirty point victories.
I believe they were ten, and they've had a few
this year. That Toronto game was won. But they haven't
been quite the same team this year. They haven't had
their best six players together for more than six games
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because christeps Porzingis has been hurt. But I have total
faith in this team that once it comes to playoff
time and the stakes are the highest that they'll play
their best. They I think they're in that you know
that trust last year with the way they handled themselves
in the postseason, ultimately winning the championship.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
No. Absolutely, So you're predicting the Brewers won't make the playoffs.
They only have forty four points at the halfway mark,
eighty eight. Probably won't do it, but I think their
goaltending should get them there. Maybe they won't too well.
But why do you think you're saying Pastor and Acts
only gonna won't won't reach thirty goals. I've tried to
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look up how many he has right now. Was he
got about fifteen?
Speaker 3 (05:11):
I think it was thirteen when I wrote that. I
don't know I think what he's said since, but yeah,
he said thirty at least thirty every year of his career,
going back to believe twenty sixteen, other than the COVID
year where everything was abbreviated, he hasn't quite been right.
And I think part of the issue of this team
is that they've got guys playing just sort of a
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level up from where they need what they really are.
A guy who's a third liner is playing in the
second line. Second liner is on the first line, and
Jeremy Swaven the goalie, came into camp lay because of
his contract situation, took him over the time to find
his stride. And I think they get overtaken by the
Lightning once the Lightning has played as many games as
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the Bruins and Bruns will be looking at a wild card.
It's about fifty to fifty where they get one in probability.
And I just don't think they're that good. I don't
think this is a great team.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, the reason I think they might make the playoffs
is they had that Western Canadian trip out of the way,
so they don't have to go back to Winnipeg. They
don't go back to Calgary, even Vancouver. I think they
caught Vancouver on an off night, so we'll say, okay,
of course the Red Sox. We saved the best for last.
I love the line about predict Craig Breslow will someday
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answer a question without the question of requiring tooth of
services and a copy of the Baseball Analytics for Dummies
to comprehend the answer. These yalely guys, these these these
the Yale guys, they they have some big words, don't.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
They They do, and US sportswriter guys don't know a
lot espersonally. Now, you'd never know talking to Kirk Breslo
that he pitched more than ten ten seasons in the
major leagues because he doesn't sound like a guy's ever
been in a clubhouse. He's just incredibly smart, but and articulate,
but in a jiargony kind of way that sometimes gets
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in the way of his the messages intending coming out
the way that he wants. And if he could be
a little more plain spoken, I think it would serve
him well, and maybe maybe the fan base enough simple
sports writers would would understand his thinking a little better.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Two things I like. I like the signing of Bueller,
the guy from the Dodgers. And I also think that
Richard fitz showed me a lot in his four starts
last September. I don't he did. I don't know if. Yeah,
I mean, I think he could be a sleeper, as
you know in the four or.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Five Yeah, I mean, you can't make a better impression
than he did down the stretch last year. And the
one thing that we know is going to be better
about this team as a starting pitching where there were
so many questions going into last year, some guys emerged.
Tanner hawku barely made the starting rotation out of spring training,
ended up being the best starting pitch. Now they've got Bueler,
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They've got Garrett Crochet, who's just he's fantastic to watch.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Durability has been a question in his career and he
doesn't have a long track record, but he's a spectacular
pitcher and he's going to be their ace if if
he's healthy. So there, they're in a better spot there
with the rotation than they've been in quite a while,
and that's to me, signifies progress. They still need some
help on this team, but it's not been a lost
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off season like so many have in recent years.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Well, you'd like to see them sign Bragman, and my
question is what do you do with him? Put him
at second base? What do you do with Grissom?
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, I mean Grissom. I like him. I think they
have questions about whether he's strong enough and whether he's
going to be a durable player. But he's very young
still and they give up Chris Sale to get him,
so they thought highly of him. They've Christian Campbell, who's
their number two prospect, a terrific young hitter, but I
think gets there this year. That was one of my
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pretty he's a Rookie of the Year candidates. But I
Bregman fits in a few ways. I think you can
play them at third base and DH Devers more Devors.
It's been a real detriment defensively at third base the
last few years. Bregman's a leader out. Corr really likes
him from their time together in Houston, and he's a
good defensive player and no matter where you play him,
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and this team has been a bad defensive team for
too long now. So he's a declining hitter in it
in a way, but he's still a productive one and
he's got a lot of other stuff going for him.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Well, Chad Finn, You've got a lot of stuff going
for you. We've covered the waterfront here and we'll have
to do an update. Well we'll do We'll do a
few updates during the year, but we'll see, we'll see
what happens. And I love the piece and I love
when to come on the show. You had a lot
of fun to talk with and I love love talking sports.
I know just enough about each of these professional sports
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teams to be able to have a conversation with guys
like you, and I really enjoy talking to you. Chad.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Thank you so much for coming on any time. Dan,
so it's always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
We'll talk soon, all right, Chad Finn the Boston Globe
his twenty twenty five predictions. Great piece. I hope you
get a chance to read it. We come back, we're
going to talk about an event that is coming up tomorrow,
which is a polar plunge, and it will be a
polar if they break the ice. Now this one is
rally for Nelly. We will explain. We're going to talk
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with Dan Nelly who lost his mom to als, and
they're going to try to raise some money tomorrow. And
if you'd like to be brave and say you took
the polar punge, we'll get all the information for you
coming up right after the break.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Delighted to be joined by Dan Nallly. Dan lost his
mom to als in twenty twenty two. Kathy Nally was
diagnosed with this horrific condition. Back in October of twenty twenty,
Dan Nally joins us because we're going to talk about
an event. It's tomorrow morning, so it's kind of a
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little short notice, but we noticed it. And Dan Nally,
first of all, welcome to Night's side.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Oh, thank you so much for having me on, Dan,
I really appreciate it our pleasure.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
This is the fourth annual rally for Neale and it
will be held on January fourth. Is January fourth? Was
that your mom's birthday?
Speaker 5 (11:27):
It was? Yeah, so definitely a very special special day
for us for multiple reasons, celebrating her birthday and just
the legacy that she left for us in Balley.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Thisvesnon. Try to make sure your mom's name was Kathy.
Tell us a little bit about your mom.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, Mom's name was Kathy. She was the absolute best.
Could not have asked for a better mother grown up
And as you mentioned, she was diagnosed unexpectedly as it
is for everyone with als, back in twenty twenty, and
in the two years that she was baling that disease,
she never complained. She just you know, kept her head
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up and said, what can I do to try to
raise awareness to make sure that other people don't have
to go through this themselves? And she was just always
that positive, bright spirit and impact so many lives that
she met, so many lives that she hasn't met, and
just you know, we're trying to carry on that legacy
of her.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
So the legacy continues tomorrow morning from well, the event
is from ten to two. It starts at Carson Beach
in South Boston, so everybody knows what Carson Carson Beach
is and I guess the Plunges is at eleven o'clock,
but the event begins at ten with registration and all
of that. Tell us about what people need to do.
(12:49):
Obviously it's a little late to have people try to
check it out, but you got a website. Give us
the website and tell us what folks can do to
support the cause, whether they're going to be able to
attend or not.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Yeah, whether or not you're able to attend. We have
a website with all the details. Give butter like a
stick of butter, dot com, flash rally, the number four
and nally which has all the details. But as you said,
if you want an extra cold bath to start your
day tomorrow, we'll be there bright and early ten ham
registration at Carson Beach. We'll be running into the water
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at eleven am. We'll be running out even faster at
probably eleven you know one, and then we have reception
over at Amoris in South Boston.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
After that, everybody be able to warm up at a reception,
that that is for sure. So this is the fourth year.
Has it always been held at Carson Carson Beach?
Speaker 5 (13:43):
It has been. Yeah. We grew up just outside of Boston.
My sister and I lived in South Boston for a
while and so had gone down to that beach for
you know, many years, and it just seemed like the
perfect spot to hold this, you know, with the whole
Boston style in the background there. Get to say, that's
always meant a lot to us, and yeah, I couldn't
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think of a better place to hold it.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
So how is it easily accessible? I've gone to some
of these events when I was younger, and you know,
whether they're road races or again polar plunges, which are great.
Is there anything that people need to know who want
to get there, because if they've never been to Carson Beach,
I mean it's it's pretty easily accessible off of the
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Expressway and also off of Morrissey Boulevard, but parking pretty easy.
I know there's parking along the beach front there. Give
us a sense of what people might run into tomorrow.
Just just paint the picture for Since this is the
fourth I'm assuming that accessibility is pretty good.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
Accessibility is usually very very good. As you said, it's
just off the highway, you've got parking right there. The
one year where accessibility was a bit of the problem
was actually our first year, when it snowed about a
foot the day before, and so we had the shovels
out right and early that morning getting everything prepared. Still
went off without a hitch. The feat were a bit
colder going into the water that was catched there, but
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no knock on woods. Should be very easy to find
parking and make it down to the beach tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
And the funds that are raised people can donate. Is
is there a minimum that people are encouraged to contribute
a lot of the road races now, particularly a marathon,
if you're lucky enough to get a number for the
marathon and you want join one of the charitable teams
there there's an obligation in some reason, you know, because
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those those are valuable numbers. And marathons, what are people
expected to raise or is there an expectation does it matter?
I mean, I know that you're looking to raise forty
thousand dollars this year and you're well on your way
to that figure.
Speaker 5 (15:53):
Yeah, no minimum at all. I mean, whatever anyone can contribute,
we always appreciate it. And unlike the marathon, is a
much shorter run down to the water and back, so
hopefully makes a little bit easier on people.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
There's no heartbreak hill or anything like that. That's fine,
no heartbreak kill.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
I gotta say, come back up from the water. It
feels like heartbreak hill. Yeah, it's not much of an incline,
but it certainly feels like it.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Okay. And then at the am Rine's event afterwards, which
is also a big, a big part of the day,
there's lunch, there's cocktails. I think you got an auction
over there as well. So you're really hoping to have
a really full day celebrating in mom's life and also
contributing to the fight against als.
Speaker 5 (16:39):
Right exactly, silent auction, raffle and just people all getting together.
And I think that's the biggest thing. Again, this is
an event to certainly raise funds for ALF at the
same time, It is a celebration of our mom and
just one incredible person she was, and even more so
tomorrow on her birthday. So we'll have a ki out there,
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we'll have a card. It's going to be a great day,
and we're hoping to raise a ton of money in
the process.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm going to ask a tear jerker question, Now, what
how old wuld have your mom been? How old would
your mom be tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
If you'd be Yeah, this would have been her sixty
fifth birthday.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yeah, that's an awful young age to lose your mom.
Sixty five is not like what it used to be
many years ago. And she certainly raised a great sun.
That's what Sue. By the way, the contributions that you
raise are going to go to support a couple of
other great organizations. Tell tell us about that, because I
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want people to understand that this money is going to
help some great a great cause.
Speaker 5 (17:46):
Absolutely, thank thanks for asking that. All the funds that
we raise are going to be split between two incredible
charities that both focus on als. The first is the
Peter Frady's Family Foundation, which just had their own plunge
last week and and raised a ton of money there
and they were so supportive of my mom right out
of the gates, providing her funds to make sure that
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she could stay in the Boston area she fought this disease.
And then Compassionate Care Als based out of Falmouth, another
terrific organization that really is is nationwide in terms of
providing resources to people battling als and sam as the
phrase Family Foundation. They were there from the start to
support my mom and and made those last two years,
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as you know, as fruitful as possible for all of us.
And you know, we're just hoping that other people can
continue to benefit from those two incredible charities.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
By the way, you folks have raised an incredible amount
of money in the you know, in the last three years.
I didn't want to embarrass you, but you guys have
raised three hundred and forty thousand dollars. So that is
a very serious fundraiser and one that that you have
uplish amazing things so far. The other thing we say,
(19:02):
I got to ask you about if you go to
the website which is give butter dot com slash rally,
the number four nolly n a l y, very very
rhythmic there. Everybody, a lot of folks are wearing some
pretty fun uniforms or costumes. I guess would be the
(19:23):
weather with the way to describe it, what's the background
doing the costumes? Tell us about that.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Well, the first year, my mom had just this incredible
curly blonde hair, and so we thought it was a
nice little tribute to that as a surprise for her,
we'd all show up with these curly blonde wigs on.
And so you're a bunch of yeah, a bunch of
frosty frows going into the wire that first year, and
then it kind of spirals from that where people are like, Okay,
you know, instead of Foster fro whatef, I did this
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costumer that costume, And we've seen more creativity year for year.
There's a competition for the Golden Plunger Award very co toward.
It's not quite the Stanley Cup, but it's maybe just
a notch below it that goes up to the best
Best Dress Costume. So we'll be awarding that again tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
That's great, Dannally, thanks so much again. Let's give that
website one more time. You go right ahead on behalf
of you mo. What's the website that people can go
to and contribute or go to and get information and
physically be in Carson Beach tomorrow morning between ten and twelve.
What's the website.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
The website again is www dot give butter dot com,
slash rally the number four and Nally and A L
L Y. Thank you again so much. Dan. I can't
begin to say how much we appreciate.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
This my pleasure. I can't begin to tell you how
much I appreciate you carrying on your legacy and raising
funds to find somehow a way to beat back this disease.
It is the cruelest disease that I can imagine amongst
a lot of cruel diseases. So again, congratulations, and I
hope that some of our listeners will we'll go and
make a donation. Thanks so much, Dan, appreciate it very much.
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Here your mom, I'm just looking down and smiling, particularly tomorrow. Okay,
thanks again, Thank you. You're welcome. All right, here comes
the news at the bottom of the hour, And when
we get back on the other side, we're going to
talk to a gentleman about failing your way to success.
May sound a little oxymoronic, but it's not failing your
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way to success with Jim Sweeney coming up right after
the news right here on wbz's Night Side. This is
Boston WBZ, Boston's news Radio. My name's Dan Ray.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
It's nights Side with Dan Ray on w Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Delighted to be joined by Jim Sweeney. Jim is an
entrepreneur who is founded, amongst of the things, fourteen healthcare companies,
including care Mark. But he has a book out, Creative
Insecurity is but it's uh. It's called Leaning to the
Unknown and Unleash your Inner misfit Secrets to Failing your
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way to Success Jim, as I said that in the
preview before the newscast, almost sounds a little oxymoronic, failing
your way to success, as some people say that military
intelligence and all of that. But it's entitled Creative Insecurity.
Tell us a little bit about yourself as an entrepreneur,
and tell us what lessons you learned along what I
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guess was occasionally a bumpy road.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
Well, thank you for having me on. I'm happy to
ad just that issue and others as well. So I
think that you know, most people think about failure as
being in one extreme and success of being the other extreme.
And we want to fail to succeed rather, and my
view is that they're intertwined inexcurricably. You can kind of
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blink your fingers together in your hand, and you continue
to fail as you become successful. Your listeners are probably
familiar with the product WD forty. What's happened to be
the San Diego Company and I'm from San Diego. They
got the name w D forty. They're now in one
hundred and sixty seven countries with four hundred and ten
(23:17):
million dollars in revenue because they tried forty times to
get the formula right. That's how they get about the
name w D forty. They failed thirty nine times.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'll tell you this, WD four mirror success, Jim. I'll
tell you many one who has ever used WD forty.
It will do everything. I mean, I think the only
thing that doesn't do is make people's hair grow. It's
if you got a problem at home, spray a little
w D forty on it. Most of the time it
fixes it. So that's that is a great example. You know,
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Jim's funny when you talk about, for example, I don't
if you're a baseball fan or not, you from San Diego,
is that what you're telling me.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Yeah, I am okay, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
You got pretty good basebe about day the padres and
they've failed a lot. But you know, if you're a
major League baseball player and you get to bat three
times and you strike out the first two times and
you get a single the third time, and you're hitting
three thirty three, if you keep that up for your career,
three thirty three put you in the Hall of Fame.
So you have to periodically fail. Tell us about a
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couple of your failures, maybe your most spectacular failure, and
then we can talk about some of your successes in
the book.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
Well, my most objecular failure was the care Mark, which
I started and it went extremely well, and I took
a public and it went extremely well. The start split
a couple of times, and it was trading at about
thirty thirty sellers to share. Metcair called me and said,
you know you're doing home Parentual Electrician, which were reimbursing.
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Then you're also doing info electric and we decided that
that's like feeding people, so we're going to stop. We're
not going to pay for that. So and one day
my stock went from thirty to three as a result,
of that, and I had I realized that I'm not
a I'm not a hero on Wall Street. I'm also
not a bum. And so when I when the stock
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went down to three, I had to work for eight
quarters to get it up to forty five dollars this year.
So that's the example of you know, failing your way
to success.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Well once again. You know when when someone knocks on
your door and says, the worst thing to hear is
I'm from the governments, that I'm here to help you.
And there was an example of what the government came
in and they were not there to help you. That
that is for sure.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Well, I could spend an hour talking about healthcare, because
help share is the five trillion dollars to your business decimated.
We had, we lose about we had, we waited about
a trillion, but that five trillion dollar business ranks the
last in terms of developed companies and countries in terms
of outcomes. So I could go on for hours about
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healthcare and what's along with that, more importantly, how to
fix it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Well, if you come up and fix it, you know,
one of the things that we're having problems with here
in the Boston area or in New England is just
to find a personal care physician is very, very difficult.
There's a shortage of personal care physicians.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
And well, one of the things the other problem there.
The other problem with that is that they're now promoting
your practitioners and position assistance to where they're now writing
prescriptions without any oversight from positions. There's a consequence. The
rate at which people are dying from medication erors is
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beyond anything you could possibly imagine.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Well, that's a great point, the most you'll ever go.
The thing that I'm also concerned about, and I've I've
done this story a couple of times, is that we
have law schools. I'm a lawyer as well as a broadcaster,
and it's easy to go to law school there's law
schools everywhere. It's very difficult to get into medical schools.
And there are a lot of young Americans who are
(27:08):
eminently qualified to become doctors, you know, you know, personal
care physicians who have to go offshore to a lot
of these medical schools in the Caribbean. And I just
don't understand why we can't open more doors. But that's
a story for another time. Let's talk about your book, Okay,
(27:28):
how long has it been out? Tell me about the
book and how's it doing.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
The book came out on December tenth, so it's just
been out a very short period of time. The most
important thing about the book. I didn't do the book
to make a nickel. I did the book because I
want to help influence people and what they can do
to get out of their own way to be successful.
That's the underpinning of the book. And I've been blessed
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with the fact that I've already had dozens of people
who say my life has changed as the guilt of
this book. And so to me, if I could affect
one person's life, I would say the book was successful,
and what we will see how successful it becomes. But
most importantly, how many people can make a difference in
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their life because of something to think the book. That's
my main objective. I say in the book that being
first is more important than being right. The reality is
you can only be first once, then you could be
right later, and you're never right when you start. You're
going to constantly pivot to get it to where it's right.
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I have something called the innovator's trifecta, which is a
triangle at the base of that triangle is humility. On
one other side of the triangle is vision, and on
the other is what I learned from the Navy fields,
which is the no quickening, which is you'll die before
you quit. If you're able to take that innovator's perfecta
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and apply it to a you're doing, I believe that
will greatly improve your ability be successful, while at the
same time asking yourself continuing the question of one am
I missing? One of I missing, and U versus a
great undoer. The whole bedrock of all of this is humility,
not hu verus. And to hire people who are better
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than you are, who wants your job. I do what
I call it pre mortemis. I think I am doned
that tournal. Maybe I didn't. But a pre mortem is
you interview so many you want to hire. At the
end of the interview, you predict why they will fail.
That's a pre mortem. And you don't do that because say, oh,
I told you so, that's why you failed, and so
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you can make sure that you help them avoid that
from being a failure, at the same time having them
write their own job description, so you break the job
around the person instead of mold it instead of trying
to mold a person to the job. My job is,
I have a one line job description. My job is
the CEO of a company is to make sure if
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you're more excited on Monday morning than you are on
Friday night, and that means you have the passion and
the excitement and you want to change the world and
make it a better place.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
All great, great points. Look, you also have I noticed
on your website you have something called the Contrarians Checklist,
and you offer this to people. They can get this
framework to evaluate your big ideas. So if they go
to your website, they can find the book. The website
(30:39):
is the name of the book, Creative Insecurity dot com.
That's a great easy website to remember. They can order
a copy. I assume it's available Amazon and all the
regular places. But again they should go down to the
bottom and says get this framework to evaluate your big ideas,
the Contrarians Checklist. I'm a bit of a contrarian myself,
(31:02):
by the way, So I'm going to try to get
the Contrarians Checklist and you send that out to people
for free. They just have to give you an email
address and their first name, and you'll send this to
them for free, as I understand it. Correct, that's correct.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Yes, The Innovative checklist is a guideline that I believe
will help you and others examine what their idea and
go through the checklist, and it will help you address
all of the issues that I believe you need to
take your business to make it a success. I don't
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mean to be statypical when I tell you this, Robert.
Of the fifteen companies that I've started, I haven't had
one fail. I've never had a down rounds in financing
because I under promise and over deliver. And these are
all things that are a part of the Contrarians checklist
that I believe can help people like you and me
who are contrarians who want to be old a company
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and want to build a business, can go for that
checklist and greatly improve their odds of success.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, that's great, really nice to talk with you. Know.
One of the things that I like to stay I
like to avoid people. I know, if you've heard the
phrase often mistaken, never in doubt. I like to be
the opposite of that. I doubt, yeah, right, but I
like to be the opposite of that. And if you
say to me, is the sun going to rise tomorrow
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in the east. I will tell you the sun is
highly likely to rive, but he can never be one
hundred percent sure about anything because it might just not
rise in the east tomorrow morning, although it has a
very good track record. So again I think a little
insecurity in the way you think and the way you
approach ideas is valuable, even on something as certain as
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the sun rising in the east. Jim Sweeney, I really
appreciate it. Anybuddy of mine who used to play for
the Padres who was a Sweeney, Mark Sweeney, great baseball
player for many years with the San Diego Padres. So
you've got a great last name, that's for sure. Thanks Jim.
Great to talk with you. Good night, good night time.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
And I really appreciate enjoyed talking with you as well.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Rob.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Thanks, Thanks very much. Dan. Rob's my producer. But that's
okay again, we all make mistakes, Thanks Jim. We come back.
But to talk with a woman who has a really
tough cautionary tale, Patricia Bonus. She has written a book
called Jetta Bride. Way do you hear this story coming up? Particularly? Well,
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it's a frightening story. I will explain it right after
the break here on night Side.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
All right, welcome back. The next guest that we're going
to talk to tells a story. He has written a book.
Her name is Patricia Bonus. I hope I'm pronouncing it correctly.
Is a bonus of Bonnis, Patricia, it's Bonus Bonus. Okay, Well, welcome,
welcome to Night's Side. You're a wealthy college graduate and
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spent obviously a lot of time in Boston, and you
fell in love with a gentleman from a far away country,
Saudi Arabia, and you have a tale to tell in
this book, which is an incredible story, and it's also
an incredible cautionary tale. It's gonna we cannot cover it
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in the few minutes that we have, but if you can't,
just outline for us. This is a wild tale of
a world win romance with the son of a wealthy
Saudi family and how you were separated from your children
for over fourteen years after he kidnapped your children. It's frightening.
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It's frightening what you went through. So just tell us,
give us a little sense of the story, if you'd
be so kind.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Oh, thank you, Dan, thank you for giving me this
opportunity to speak about Jeddah Bride my book. Yes, I
was at Wellesley and he was at Boston University School
of Management, and we met. And at the time, in
the late seventies early eighties, there was a huge I
don't know if there still is now, but there was
a huge international crowd of students from every country. Boston
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and it probably still is now was a magnet for
all of these international students, and so we really, you know,
it was great fun and everything was so exciting, and
I fell in love and he wanted to marry me,
and I did, and so I went to Saudi Arabia
(35:44):
in like nineteen eighty as his wife. And it was
quite horrifying to you know. It was nothing I really expected,
no matter how much you would describe it. It was
like stepping into the Bible, like two thousand years ago,
and it was extraordinary. Things happened to me when I
was there that were terrifying. I witnessed things with my
(36:06):
own eyes that were terrifying. I heard stories that were
even more terrifying from other ladies that lived there and
other people they.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Well, there were I don't know if there's still going on,
but there were public executions at that time.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
And I witness won myself when I was just walking
from my car to a store and I turned around.
I heard all these people screaming, and I looked and
there was a lady getting stoned, and they actually killed
her in front of me.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Right. And when they say stoned in Saudi Arabia, they're
not talking about marijuana. They're talking about stony. Literally, no, no,
I'm serious. Look, I want you to know, Patricia, I
might have crossed paths with you. I'm probably from that
I'm from that same generation. I was at Boston University
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law school back in the nineteen seventies and.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
They probably there at the same time.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And there were many of the clubs that you probably frequented,
were clubs that you go to Jason's on Clarendon Street
back in the day. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, you know so,
I mean those were all the hotspots around Boston. So
this guy, he went so far not only to try
to control you in a different culture, but then you
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were able to get your two children out of there,
but he kidnapped them here in America and our law
enforcement and our state department, they really weren't able to
help you.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
No, they weren't. And you know it's still that way.
People don't realize that I'm involved with an organization called
Find my Parent and this is going on all the time.
There is a Hague Convention that many countries find and
it controls international child abduction and custody issues. Saudi Arabia
(37:59):
has not sign that still not and you really have
no I mean, you can't fight it. You cannot fight it.
When you're in that country, they'll just throw you in
jail and kill you. I mean, it just happens like that.
You'll disappear and nobody'll be able to find you and
that'll be the end of you. So I wasn't about to.
(38:20):
I will never step one in that country again.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
And how long how long were you were you married
to this guy?
Speaker 4 (38:29):
Well, let's see, like probably nine years, nine years? And
I did I waited to have children. You know, we
kept having these issues and I kept thing, should I shouldn't,
should I shouldn't? And then I did and then I
had two children and that was really you know, had
I not had the children, had they not been kidnapped.
I could have told this story a long time ago,
(38:51):
my hair raising marriage to a Saudie, But once my
children were kidnapped, there was no way I was going
to make waves and make it worse.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
You've been able to re establish I guess through a
stroke of luck. You found out you were living in
New Jersey. But you found out that your son was
going to prep school here in New England.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
And yes, can you imagine? Yes, no, my son, Kareem
was in Culver Military Academy. It's a boarding school in Indiana.
I think Indiana, I don't think. I think that was
probably chosen because it was so kind of off the grid.
But I do know a lot of people whose kids
went there. But I didn't know this, and I until
(39:34):
someone called me mysteriously in my office and told me,
your son is in the United States playing polo at
boarding school. And I looked up all the boarding schools
that had polo, and then I found a listen. Then
I gave it to a private investigator and they found
him and he was a graduating senior at that time.
And I could have driven, I could have jumped in
my car and run to Indiana that day, but I thought,
(39:57):
wait a minute, waitmen, this is a military school. Who
knows what's happening, who knows if he'll even't accept to
see me? I thought, okay, let me wait. They found
he was going to go to Boston in the fall.
He was living in Fenway Park. He rented an apartment,
and I thought, that's a much better way to approach him.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
Not in Fenway Park, but living and living in living
in what we call the Fenway area.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah, yeah, well Peterborough, Peterborough.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Peterborough Street. Sure, that's that's very close to the ballpark.
So you went unannounced, knocked on the door, and he asked,
who are you?
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Who told you?
Speaker 4 (40:37):
That's right? He was so shocked, he was really shocked.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
You have a good relationship with him. Is he still
in the States or has he gone back?
Speaker 4 (40:48):
No, he's gone back. He runs his family company. And
I can't say that I blame him. He's doing very
well and he's, you know, he's happy with his life.
My daughter, the younger one of the two, she lived
in the United States. Now, she actually came here and
she went to Wellesley of her own volition because her
mom had gone.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
There, I guess.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
And they accepted her. Actually, when she was sending in
her application, she told me, and I wrote a letter
to Wellesley and I don't know if it affected her admissions,
but I begged them. I said, this is my daughter.
I was a student at Wellesley and she's kidnapped. I
haven't seen her since she was two years old. I
hope you accept her. And they did accept her, and
she did graduate from Wellesley and I saw her at
(41:29):
least once a month for the whole entire time that
she was a student there. So that was aing.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
And she's resettled or settled in the US and not
likely to go back to Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 4 (41:39):
I hope not likely. No, she's very happy here. Yes,
So it's a happy ending. Only the middle part is sad.
The first part was exciting, shocking, daring. The second part
was tragic. For fourteen years I was I didn't even know.
I couldn't even think.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
I was what year did you reunite with you? So
if I could ask, I'm just trying to put it on.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
It was the year after nine to eleven, so what
would that be.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Two thousand, two thousand and.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Two to two thousand and one. It was September nine,
to eleven have happened a year ago, right now? Whatever
nine eleven was, yeah, and nine eleven nine.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Eleven two, Well, nine to eleven was nine eleven two
thousand and one because it was the first year in
the Bush administration, so you would have united in September
of two thousand and two. But you're still in contact.
Are you still in contact with good?
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Absolutely?
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Absolutely?
Speaker 2 (42:35):
What What is what is the caution? What is the
cautionary the caution that you would give to other young
American women who are thinking about doing what you did,
falling in love with someone from a country that whose
culture is so significantly different than ours?
Speaker 5 (42:54):
What?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
What?
Speaker 4 (42:54):
What?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
What would be your your message?
Speaker 4 (42:58):
My message is my method is probably don't do it.
But I'm not going to be that harsh. It's a
very difficult thing to do. It's very difficult in so
many ways. You have to give up so much of
what your expectations are and what you might have dreamt
for yourself. It's difficult with raising children, there's so many
(43:20):
different approaches to it. Their way, our way, and especially
with the girls in some of these repressive countries.
Speaker 5 (43:27):
I would have had to fight.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
I mean, even if I had raised them. It never ends.
They don't want they don't want them to. You know,
a Muslim girl cannot marry anything but a Muslim man.
She could never be If my daughter married a Christian
man right now, she could never go back to Saudi Arabia.
They could cut her head off if she wants to.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
That's what I don't understand. I see so many young
so called progressives in the streets demonstrating against Israel, and
uh uh And I'm a huge supporter of Israel, the
one beacon of hope in the Middle East that is
(44:10):
actually in the twenty first century. So I hope people
buy your book and read your book and learn whatever
lessons Jetta Bride j E. D. D A. H. Bride.
It's available everywhere. Patricia. So nice to talk with you.
You sound like an awfully wonderful woman. Uh And I
(44:31):
wish you all the best of success in life and
with this book. And I maybe somebody that can be
back and we could we could take some phone calls
from my listeners. We do our second one. Okay, I'll
have my producer get back in touch with you. Okay.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
I love I love talking to people answering questions. It
really It really clears a lot of things. People have
a lot of those great options.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Patricia Author My Pleasure, author of Jedabride. Congratulations and having
the courage in the backbone to accomplish what you've accomplished.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
You're more than welcome. What a story. When we get
back right after the nine o'clock news, we're going to
talk about the concept of congestion pricing. Ladies and gentlemen,
It is coming to a downtown area near you. And
why do you hear? I think one of the dumbest
governors in America, Kathy Hokeel, talk about congestion pricing. It's unbelievable.
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