January 8, 2025 • 40 mins
In this hour, Dan asked our Canadian listeners to check in and give us an update on the political situation of our neighbors to the North. Justin Trudeau is stepping down, do our listeners think this is a good thing?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice Eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
All right, thanks very much. We heading into the fourth
and final hour here on a Wednesday night, and god,
was it cold today. It's unbelievable. Hey, here's what I
would like to talk about this hour. And whenever I
do this, I'm kind of rolling the dice a little bit,
and if it doesn't work, I'm going to go on
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to something else. I'm gonna be really honest with you. Okay,
but I was I follow from afar Canadian politics. I'm
not an expert in Canadian politics. I know that Prime
Minister Trudeau has been up there now for about seven
or eight years, the son Justin Trudeau, the son of
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Pierre Trudeau, the head of the Liberal Party in Canada,
and he has has said that he is going to
resign or has reasons as the head of his party,
which is the equivalent of the Democratic Party in Canada,
and that there will be an election. And I had
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a couple of texts with friends of mine up in
Canada who was suggesting that it's perhaps going to follow
as night follows day, that the power in Canada will
swing back to the Conservative Party. Now, the Conservative Party
is not exactly the Republican Party, Liberal Party, not exactly
the Democrat, but they're analogous. And certainly it's ironic that
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Pierre Trudeau not Pierre Trudeau, justin Trudeau has decided to
step aside because his whole numbers have tanked, have tanked
at the same time, he had to go down to
Mari Lago, or he didn't have to, but he went
down to Mary Lago to pay homage to Donald Trump.
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After the election in November didn't quite work for him.
Trump kept the president elect, kept calling him governor as
if he was the governor of the fifty first state.
So what I'm hoping for is some of you who
are listening in Canada tonight, and I know there are
many listeners at nightside in Canada tonight, well pick up
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the phone and give us a call. Six one seven
two five four ten thirty or six one seven ninety
three one ten thirty. Give us a call and tell
us what the political temperature is in Canada. And we
know what the weather temperature is. It's cold everywhere. I'm
sure that anyone who's listening to me tonight, if you
step outside, it's going to be somewhere around ten degrees
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either ten degrees for real or ten degrees windshow factor.
But I'd love to know what the political temperature is
in Canada now. Apparently parliament has been suspended in Canada
until March, and that's interesting because I guess that is
the period of time that the Liberal Party in Canada
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will have that a period of time to pick their
new leader, and then there will be an election schedule.
I guess the election has to be scheduled no later
than next October, and whether or not Canada will follow
what has happened in America and elect a conservative prime minister,
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kind of like a Brian Mulrooney. I don't know how
many of you remember Brian mulroney, but he was prime
minister when Reagan was president, when George Bush was president,
and he was very effective prime minister. But like anything else,
their time in office winds down and the economy goes
in one direction or the other and it's time for
a change. We do the same thing in this country.
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We move back and forth between democratic and Republican presidents,
and they move back and forth between liberal which is
the equivalent of Democrats, or a conservative, which is the
equivalent of Republicans. They call them liberals and conservatives. That's
probably what we should do in this country as well,
but nonetheless that's the way it works up there. So
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I'd love to know what your thought is about the
decision of the Prime Minister of Canada, who for a
while was a darling in Canada. Then he ran into
problems a couple of years ago with the truck remember
the big truckers strike up there. He has I think
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been pretty arrogant as prime minister. He, as I say,
came from a political family, probably felt all along that
he was destined that his destiny was to be a
prime minister, and he did become a prime minister for
seven years, had a fairly good relationship with Joe Biden,
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and maybe he saw the writing on the wall. So
I'm going to to open up the phone lines, and
I hope that as many of you who might be
listening in Canada tonight, and believe me, some of you
I know by name. I'm not going to call you out,
but I'd love to know. Maybe you can give us
some information, you can teach us a little bit. My
belief is that the timetable, if you will, is the
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Liberal Party has until some time in March to pick
a new leader, and then when Parliament returns in March, reassembles,
goes back in the session. Whatever phrase you use. In Canada,
Parliament will set an election date. And your election is
different than ours. We vote by states, and we have
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the electoral college, a popular vote in the various states.
Everybody I think now understands the US the election of
a president popular vote is important, but the most important
vote is the electoral college vote up there. It's a
parliamentary democracy, as I understand it, and so you have
I don't even know how many members of parliament there.
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I could look it up and maybe someone up there
can tell me. Uh. And the majority then forms the government,
and sometimes you have minor parties, just as that as
happens in countries like England and France and Israel and Germany. Uh.
And sometimes a party does not have the strict majority. Uh,
and they need to work deals with minor parties. And
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it's a little more complicated in Canada than it is
in the US, I think, although one could argue we're
pretty complicated to So the numbers yeah, six one seven, two, five,
four ten, thirty six one seven, nine, three one ten, thirty.
If you are American and you want to comment on
Trudeau's decision to leave not only again as as the
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Prime minister eventually, but as the leader of his party
right now. I'm not telling you not to call, but
I would love to hear from as many Canadians listeners
as possible. And if you guys don't want to talk
about this subject, if it's beyond the capacity or the
interest of my audience, then we'll move on to something else.
Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven,
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nine three one ten thirty. This is a bit of
a challenge. Let's have at it. We'll take a break,
coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
All right, well, we haven't that what you would call
overwhelming reaction to my proposal that we talk about the
implications of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's resignation as Liberal
Party leader. However, we have my friend Daryl from New Brunswick, Canada,
my most loyal Canadian listener. Come on, you folks up
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there in Canada, let's hear from you. We you were
not the fifty first state yet maybe you never will be.
I suspect you won't be, but we'd love to learn
a little bit more about your politics up there. Hey, Daryl,
appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
How are you any Dan? I haven't been able to
get reception, so I had to actually call in because
they might be jamming it right. No, But happy New Year.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Happy new you. You mean you have a tough time
getting us recently.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Uh, well, we've had a few storms up here, as
you guys bet as well, and uh so that could be.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Part of the week. Just yeah, Joe, we've just had
really cold weather. I mean we we we had a
little bit of a snowstorm before Christmas and and and
it got real cold and the ground was covered with
snow and then we had some rain in the fifties
and everything melted away. But since the weekend, it's been
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cold down here. I mean it is, we're we're kind
of in an ice box right now.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And I suspect that it's around minus twenty six celsius
here and I can't. Okay, then you a hormometer, Well
you know you could.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Just read tell me minus twenty six celsius. That means
you're down around what we would call zero fahrenheit, right
because you're you're, you're.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You're zero thirty two is zero.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, right, so.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Your mind us. But if you have any local government
people running for elections saying they filled all the potholes,
they've done it when it actually freezes.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Oh good, well yeah, so uh snow, well you do.
You have snow on the ground, A lot of snow
on the ground.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
We got a little bit, but it's more ice because
of everything froze, so all the potholes are filled. Right. Wow. Wow,
it's the comedy of it as well.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Right, I got you, I got you. So, uh tell
us about Justin Trudeau and what's going to happen when
you finally get around to having an election.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We have been asking uh Justin to uh step back
for quite a while and uh because in my opinion,
I've met a bunch of other prime ministers prior to
that in the military part of our duties, right, and
with that, he has had no responsibility, uh to take
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upon himself.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Never he never served in the Canadian military.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
No, No, he his father was well to do. And
you know, just like other people, you know, once they
have certain people in their family, they can live off
the name possibly, but we're not going to do a
bashing on in Trudeau. But he is not a leader, right,
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who are the Conservatives?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I mean, did the Conservatives have a front runner Pierre Poliev?
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And he is actually from the West.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And I've spent time in the West as well for
quite a number of years, and he has everything more
in sequence.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
When you said the West, are you talking about Ottawa?
Are you talking about Calgary, because that's a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Uh, No, Alberta, Manitoba, Oh, you name it.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
That is the West. Okay, that's uh. We been here
in New England, as you might know, Daryl, We here
in New England, think of uh oh, places like New
Jersey is west, you know, anything outside of New England
only kidding?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So no, they the furthest I've been up is towards Alaska.
So but uh that was when I was working on
the drawing rings. Right.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Wow, that's that's interesting. How old the guy is he?
How is he he's he's Trudeau's age or older?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Uh? Well, Trudeau is about I think he's around fifty.
I think I'm not sure. Okay, he just doesn't have
his own plane, so that's probably why he didn't resign,
right so because he still wants to.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Jump around here and there, right so so do so
as the as the as the prime minister of Canada,
he's got the equivalent of Air Force one. He's got it.
He's got it. Okay, fine, yeah, well, look, as I
understand that, what was I understand that, And as I say,
I want to hear what would you tell me? I
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know you were joking a little bit there is that
he has resigned as the head of the party. But
someone's got to be prime minister and he can't resign
as prime minister until you get a new prime minister. Right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, no, he could have. He could have given it
to the deputy, just like you guys have the VP
okay and the House and all that stuff, right, But
he elected to keep himself on as the guy in
charge until they re elect somebody else. But when you
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mentioned about he progued government until twenty four March. The
reason he did that is the House will sit when
that comes back to on the twenty fifth, and because
we still have to pass our budget. Yeah, otherwise the
government would have no ability to spend.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
So okay, so let me we have we're in the
same situation, by the way, with our debt ceiling. But
that's another story. So let me ask you this. They
come back in March, do they have to have a
vote of no confidence or the fact that he has
resigned as the Liberal leader, does that avoid that? And
do they just they'll announce an election date.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
What that does is there is going to be an
election date because all three what we have is multiple
parties and so what we have is the Quebec Law.
We have the NDP New Democratic Party and the Conservatives
and the Green Party, but they really are non existent.
So all these people collectively are going to actually vote
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in no confidence, vote against Liberals for the continuance of
putting things in disrepair.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So they will. So what I'm trying to understand, Darryl,
and help me out because my question is probably not
as good as they should be, and I appreciate I'm
you calling in. They will have to have a no
confidence vote, which then will formally challenge him as prime
minister or challenge basically call for a new election of
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a prime minister. When do you think they will set
the election date. I think they have to do it
at least by October, as I understand it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It'll probably be immediate. What will happen is because what
I'm getting at is here we have the ability just
like Britain where if you have one party to support
another with a multiple parties yep, and if you have
enough vote then you can actually keep the government going.
And that's what the NDP has been doing right right.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So now a government with some of the money, we
get that. That's a lot that happens in a lot
of the parliamentary democracies. Absolutely, we understand that.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, So what's going to happen is they're going to
call ano no confidence vote and therefore at least the
money will be able to be spent to pass to
run the country. But after that, the Governor General will
call the election because the no confidence vote will actually
say that the people do not have confidence in the practice.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And totally get that, totally. So let me ask you,
in your opinion, when will Canada elect a new prime minister?
Will give me a rough idea of the date of
the election.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
As we're going on to start in March twenty fifth,
that's when they because they'll have what thirty one thirty
five days to go from there, because what they're doing
with parroguing government stalling.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I got that. No, you've already explained. What they're doing
is they're given what they're going to trying to.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Give them the Liberal What they're doing is they're given
the Liberals the ability to elect a new leader.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
No, I get that. I've already explained that, Darryl. Please
listen to my question and help me out. So March
twenty fifth comes the no confidence vote. How long we
always have elections every four years? Okay, it's I can
tell you the date of the next election in twenty
twenty eight. All I gotta do is look at the
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calendar and find the first Tuesday after the first Monday. Okay.
So my question to you is when do you think
the election will actually be held. It won't be held
on March twenty sixth, because there's going to be a campaign.
How long do you think Just give me a date,
give me an idea.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
What is your thought or look in spring it's normally
it's within thirty one to thirty five days or whatever. Okay,
So may may may, yeah, correct.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Okay for enough, all right, Daryl, I appreciate you taking
the time to call you the one Canadian listener who
was called I'm totally disappointed that most of the other
Canadian listeners do not want to share the point of
viewing it. But I appreciate your friendship and I appreciate
your calling. Thank you, Darrel, appreciate it much. Well.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
The other Canadian listeners might be still shaking their heads
and hearing led Zeppelin, right.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I don't know. I would hope that they'll listen if
I would hope that they'll listen in to Night's Side.
So you're telling me you haven't been able to listen
to my show recently.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Uh, well no, I actually had it up until you
switched over to the Justin Trill thing and then the
signal went.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
So you're listening on the radio or you listening on
the app.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm just listening on my mak Makita construction radio if
there's a plug there.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Good enough, fair enough, Okay, Well, I there's no reason
that you should have lost us. But I thank you
for joining us. Thanks, thanks, Darrel. Appreciate the call. Have
a good one. Helped me out more than I can
I can I can say thanks, all right, thanks Daryl,
have a good one. All right. We're going to go
to a newscaster in about two minutes. And I'm going
to tell you real quickly if if those of you,
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if if our signal is not getting into Canada tonight,
I'm really upset. But if you're up there listening tonight
in Canada, I would hope that you would help educate
us here in America as to what's likely going to
happen in Canada. We do know, and Daryl has helped us,
and he has helped us explain and understand that there
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will be no confidence vote in Trudeau. He'll go through
that embarrassment and that will set the stage for an election,
which Daryl said would be somewhere in the vicinity of
thirty one to thirty five days, which would mean sometime
in May. It's going to be fascinating to think that
Canada will follow the US. I mean, Canada is a
very different form of government than the United States. It
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is a very it's a socialist government. You have a
lot of the medical programs up there Cradle Grave, you
have high taxation, you have a lot of benefits, medical benefits.
But also in Canada, you can't just you can't get
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to see a doctor quickly. And that's part of the problem,
uh that I guess you do have the ability if
you want to pay exorbitant sums in Canada to have
your own private doctor. But if you're going to rely
upon the government health services, you know you'll get you'll
get treated eventually. And I guess if you have an
emergency and go to a mergency room, but if you're
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looking to have some form of elective surgery or some
surgery that can be being can be put off, it
could take a few weeks, maybe even a few months.
So not a perfect system, very expensive system, but that's
that's kind of what is built into the Canadian form
of government. So taking a break, if you want to
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talk about this great dial now forever hold your peace.
Six one seven, two, five four ten thirty six one
seven nine three one ten thirty and triple eight nine
two nine, ten thirty. I don't even know if the
triple eight number makes it easier for my Canadian listeners.
If if no one wants to talk about Justin Trudeau,
we will move on to something Mills. But right now
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I'm going to move on to the news. My name's
Dan Ray. This is Nightside. Don't fail me now, coming
back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
All Right, tomorrow night at nine o'clock, we will have
Harvey Silverglate with us. Harvey, great thinker, great lawyer, a
founder of the Foundation Fire and we're going to talk
with Harvey. We talked last week about the guy down
in New Orleans was obviously radicalized by some of the
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ISIS web isist websites, and whether those icist websites are
on the dark web or regularly out there. I was
raising the question of how do we basically take these
people who are exposing themselves to this and should they
get a visit from the FBI? So someone said, well,
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what do you think Harvey's going to think about it?
And I said, let's go ahead and let's invite Harvey on.
So Harvey will be on tomorrow night. Also, as a
quick note of personal privilege, I just want to note
the passing of a friend of mine over the weekend.
I'm not going to go into details, but a good
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friend of mine from Charlestown, Richie Craven, who I had
the pleasure of for a period of time playing hockey
with him at Boston State College, who's a really good defenseman.
He actually after he graduated from Boston State College, played
a fifth year of college hockey, went up to play hockey.
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And McGill loved the Bruins, loved his family, loved his teammates,
and he was a real good friend who ran into
some medical troubles.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And the medical troubles overtook him. And the reminder, if
you're in Charlestown, and if you if you're in Charlestown,
you know who Richie Craven was. He will be waked
tomorrow at the car Funeral Home and then his life
will be celebrated in funeral mass on Friday. UH. Really
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good guy, someone who loved life, lived it to the fullest.
I and kept in touch. You know, one of those
friends from college who you kept, who you keep in
touch with. Uh. And we would have breakfast occasionally, and
Richie always had. He was a bundle of energy, just
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an absolute bundle of energy. And to think that he's
no longer with us is to me frightening and it's
sobering because none of us get out of this place alive.
And I just wanted as a small tribute, I mentioned
his name tonight. He was a loyal listener of this program.
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He and I agreed on both are our love of
the Bruins and our love of politics. He could talk
politics with the best of them, and somebody who was
well read, well rounded, and competed in hockey. I was
talking with a mutual friend of ours tonight, long after
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most of us have put our skates away. Richwood was
in senior leagues until he probably hit the half century
mark at least. So again, Richie Craven, rest in peace.
You deserve it. Your family has been very supportive of
you the last couple of years, and I know it
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hasn't been easy for you, and it won't be easy
for all of your friends to say goodbye to you
in the next couple of days. But know this, you'll
be remembered by a lot of people in the next
few days and well into the time that we have left.
Richie Craven of Charlestown, Boston State College Defenseman. All right,
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we got a couple of our callers from from Canada,
so I'm appreciative of that. It's good to know that
Penelope has joined us from Ottawa, where of course Parliament sits.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Hi, Penelope, how are you good evening?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I can't sleep, so I may as well call in.
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I've talked to you before, if I if I recall.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
No, you haven't, but really we should have called before
when you first I called.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Thank you very much. Tell us, you know, for a
Canadian perspective, what should we as Americans know about what's
going to happen up in Canada in the next few months.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Okay, so I'm cheating a bit. I found a BBC
site and they're telling me the numbers. Apparently we have
three hundred and thirty eight members of Parliament that's in
the House.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
And thank you very much for cheating. Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yeah, So when the No Continent's motion has brought, the
Liberals will need the backing of a majority of them
and their seventeen seats short of that, and so far
the NDP has backed them and given them enough to
keep going over the hall lately, but the NDP leader
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has said that he's going to vote against the Liberal
Party when that No Continent's vote happens. So parliament will
be will fold. When will there be an election? I
say it will be in June. They never have a
elections in July and August because they don't want to
interrupt people with their summer holidays.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Summer holidays have to be very important. That's a very
interesting point. We of course don't have elections, although we
do have some primaries. They used to have presidential primaries
as late as sometimes in June. But but you're right,
we don't have important elections in July or August as well. Okay,
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that's good information. Tell me, tell me more.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
So the way it works up here is that the
leader of the party with the most vote, with the
most writings that they win, becomes the Prime Minister of Canada.
And that's the way it goes. We don't have any
electoral college or anything like.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
You have no popular vote. Basically, it's like our congress.
Your parliament is our congress.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yes, and then we have we have a Senate, which
is appointed by the government in charge. So Trudeau has
been appointing a number of people, including a lawyer from
the town that I practice in and chief now a
senator in Ottawa and it's a lifetime appointment. Ken Dryden,
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the hockey player, was made a senator at one point
as well.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
So now is that an honorific or is that an
actual position? That has responsibilities and obligations.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Well, they have responsibilities. They can initiate bills. You can
have bills that are that are put forward from either
the House of Commons or from the Senate. And if
they're from the Comments it's C dash and there's a
number attached to each bill that comes forward, and if
it's from the Senate, it's an S dash. And and
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so the way that Pierre Paaldiev is the leader of
the Progressive Conservative figure that one out.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah, a little bit of an ore on there, Penelope.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, So he's the leader of the Progressive Conservative Party
and if the election was held tomorrow, he would have
a clear majority, meaning that he would not have to
band together with another minor party to get enough seats
to hold sway in anything that he wanted to push through.
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And so we tend to follow you guys, whatever the
it's global. Everything is moving now more towards the right. Yes,
and yeah, so we're going back that direction. And I'd
like to follow the old thing. If you don't vote
liberally in your twenties, you're heartless, and if you don't
vote conservative in your forties or brainless.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yes, I believe that that was once attributed to Winston Churchill.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I don't know, but it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Let me ask you this, and I love talking to
another barrister, a member of the bar. Yeah, you Canada.
Actually your head of state is the King of England.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
That's the honorary, honorific head of state is the King. Now, yes,
and with the King, are you still.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Are you still a commonwealth?
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yes, we're part of the British Commonwealth.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Okay, good enough, Okay, So not likely that you're going
to become the city. Not likely you're going to become
the fifty first day.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
No, God bless them. I had ancestors that came to
New England in the sixteen hundreds and fought in the
Revolutionary War and then eventually made their way up here.
And here we are, and here I'll stay.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
All right, Well, Penelope, I loved your call. Thank you
for listening to Night's side. I don't know how often
we have you the pleasure of your company, but please
call again that it was a very fun. I just
want to add one thing, and I want to make
sure that it makes sense to you for Americans who
might not understand how a parliamentary democracy formulates. If you
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compare it to our you know what, you would have
considered to be sort of like the House of Commons,
our Congress. If we had our elections similar to you,
as a parliamentary democracy, our prime minister would be Mike Johnson,
the Speaker of the House, because he would have the
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majority number of votes, assuming that all the Republicans would
support him, which is maybe a question, but that is
kind of the way it would go. There would be
no Donald Trump, there would be no jd. Vance having
run a national election. Mike Johnson would become the prime minister,
therefore the actual head of government at this point.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, okay, yeah, no, we don't have a specific We
can't vote specifically for the prime minister. The politician. Trudeau's
a politician that has a riding in the Montreal area
and the people in his Montreal I mean, it could
happen that as leader of the Liberal Party, he would
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he would be pushed to the prime minister role and
still lose his seat, and then that would be a
big quandary. But if he wasn't voted in his own
in his own riding, has that.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Happened, has that happened before? Or no?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I don't think so I don't think so think.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You know my favorite Canadian prime minister has been in
my lifetime.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Brian mulrooney.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
He was good. He's the first first person I ever
voted for because I turned eighteen just around that time
and I was living in Alberta at that time as well,
and it was very, very conservative leaning and they just
absolutely hated Trudeau Senior.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, I remember, I do remember then. LP. Thank you
so much. I loved your call. You're a breath of
fresh air from the far North. And please continue to
listen and keep calling.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Okay, I will take care and thanks. Maybe you can sleep.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Now, I hope you can't. Okay, Thanks very much. You've
done this a great service. Thank you. I have Greg
and Ontario coming up, Tim and Wilburn and Jim in
Kansas City. I think Jim was with us earlier this week,
So Jim hanging in there. We'll get to you, I hope.
But we're going to go next to Greg and Ontario
right after this break.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Let's go to Greg and Ontario. Greg, thanks very much
for calling in tell us something about Canadian politics that
we need to understand.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Hi, Dan, pleasure to talk to you. I just want
to start off saying I am a lifelong bought some
Bruins fan. Okay, I'm invested in Boston.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Thank you very much. How'd you become a Bruins fan?
What'd you do? Grow up watching Bobby orr Or?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Actually you hit it on the head. When I was
about eight years old back in nineteen sixty eight, I
lived across from Detroit Windsor. My dad brought me to
our first hockey game at the Old Olympia in Detroit
to watch the Wings. Yeah, and I was like eight,
I was starting to play hockey. Yeah. And then and
I seen Bobby or play, Yeah, a rookie.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
So you weren't rooting for Gordie how Ted Lindsay, Alex Delvecchio,
Terry Sawchuk or any of the Red Wings.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah no, yeah, they were all great players as well
as you know obviously. Yeah, no, I was. I'm dying
the wool Bruins fan man. And actually I'm glad i am,
because I'll tell you what, living in Canada being a
Bruins fan right now is glorious. Because I'm surrounded by
Toronto Mapley fans. You could imagine when I walk in
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the room with a hat with Boston logo on it.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah. Well, the Maple Leafs. The Maple Leafs played pretty
well the other night. I thought Matthews had a great
goal at the end there where he was literally sprawling
on the ice and somehow he put it. He put
it into the empty net, almost like a pool shot.
Did you see that goal?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
I did see that. Yes, I did see that.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
He's a good, strong player.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Yeah, he's a great player. Like I think, well, between
him and McDavid for the best two players in the league.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Marty is not bad with the Leafs either, by the way,
as I'm sure you know.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh, so many great players, right.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, McDavid had fun here in Boston last night. The
Oilers shut out the Bruins for nothing, and he had
he at least had one goal. I'm not sure if
he had any assists. So Greg, let's talk a little.
By the way, are you first time caller? Have you
called before?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
We first time caller? I I just started picking your
station up maybe a couple of weeks ago, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well we're here. We talked football earlier this week. So
we occasionally venture into the sporting round, but we're not
a sports show per se. We mostly do politics carent events.
So Penelope did a really good job running down, uh,
your your elections that are upcoming. So let me push
the push the envelope a little bit with you. What's
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gonna happen? Normally, Uh, Canada and the US tend to
kind of vote the same way. I may I remember
when Malrooney was was your prime minister was during Bush
and Reagan's time. Uh, And obviously Trudeau has has has been,
you know, prime minister with with Biden's time. But I
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also think Trudeau kind of became your Barack Obama, if
you know, if what I'm saying, young leader, and after
he was elected, after after Obama left office, what do
you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Well, thankfully he stepped down. He's resigned Trudeau as you
as you know, and yeah, so he's finished. He had
nobody in this country, very few people you talk to
in this country right now will have anything good to
say about Justin Trudeau. Paulie holds about a twenty point
lead right now on him, and that's not going to change.
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So PAULI has like penelopees that you did a great
job on explaining everything that. Yeah, yeah, and he's going
to win. I think he's going to do a majority.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
So yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
In this country right now, for the last but almost
ten years under Trudeau. I'm sixty five, so I've seen
a lot of prime ministers come and go. He's to
me the biggest embarrassment to this country. He's done more
harm to the fabric of the society in this country
than any prime minister, hands down, which is a shame.
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He doesn't listen. He's a bit of a dict We
we joke around here a lot. Well it's not even
a joke anymore. We say that the one be little
dictator because that's how we feel about this man. He
treats us like children, speaks to us like children. So
he's finished and he had it coming. So I don't
feel anything more so empathy for for Justin Trude, who
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at all.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Well, maybe maybe we can get Bobby or to run
for I think you'd win. Bobby, by the way, is
that great? Have you ever met him?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Or No?
Speaker 5 (37:31):
I have not?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
No great guy. Next time I see him, I'll tell
him you said hello, Okay, I promise you he's a
great guy. Hi, Greg, I hope you'll continue to listen.
I got a couple more folks who want to sneak
in here, but thank you.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
If I could just say one quick thing, sure, yeah, okay,
I know you. You mentioned healthcare in this country, and
I just want to say, I just want to say quickly,
do not ever allow America to go down the social
healthcare path. People who are any Canadian that says we
have good healthcare has no idea matter of fact, Dan,
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I've had to go to Detroit, Michigan three times and
spend money out of my pocket to get timely healthcare.
And I need some orthopedic surgery done. I'm going to
Germany to get it done because I've been waiting in
this country for three years and not me alone, thousands
and thousands of Canadians. It is an absolute disaster. Don't
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go down this path.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Okay, Greg. I agree with you totally. You are going
to love my show the more you listen to my show.
Trust me.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Okay, absolutely, Dan.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Thanks Greg, and look forward to talking again. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Yeah. Thanks great talking to you.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Great to talk to you. Let me go to Tim
and Wilburn. Tim next on nights.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
I go ahead, Hi Dan, Tim, I'm drinking my on
of my night side cup again. Anyhow, the reason I called,
I don't know much about the topic, but I want
to give you my condolence about this. Ricky Craven guy,
Richie Craven.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, great guy, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Anyhow, Tom, I set a prayer for him, and.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Tomorrow I'll let him know that through mental telepathy.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Okay, all right, tell him Tim McMahon is praying for him.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
All right, Thanks, Tim, appreciate your time, Appreciate your call
and your your sentiments. Thanks so much. Okay, Well, my friend,
good night, Jim Ai Kansas City. Jim, going to get
you in here. Only got about thirty seconds for you, buddy.
I know you've been waiting, and I know you've been patient,
and I apologize for that.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Go right ahead, Jim, Jim, Hey damn yeah yeah. So okay. Well,
I listened to Canadian radio a little bit, and it
sounds to me like if it was until Trump took over,
it was going the same exact way that it has
been going for quite a while, which leads me to
continue to believe that they don't really have a democracy.
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So with the other thing. The thing I kind of
don't like what was going on is it seems like
Trump in a sneaky way. It is continuing right on
with this whole transcontinental Global Union saying where they want to.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Make Beautyboddy talking about it a lot, Jim. I promise
you we'll talk about this later this week or next week.
And I'm really going to give an opportunity to chat.
But I'm I'm flat out a time. I gave the
Canadians a chance tonight.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Okay, all right, dog and cats a thanks.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Good night. All right, we're done for the night. I
want to thank everyone that did call, particularly Darryl, Penelope
and Greg. I want to thank Rob. I want to
thank Marita. I want to thank all of you who listened.
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
All right, thanks very much. We heading into the fourth
and final hour here on a Wednesday night, and god,
was it cold today. It's unbelievable. Hey, here's what I
would like to talk about this hour. And whenever I
do this, I'm kind of rolling the dice a little bit,
and if it doesn't work, I'm going to go on
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to something else. I'm gonna be really honest with you. Okay,
but I was I follow from afar Canadian politics. I'm
not an expert in Canadian politics. I know that Prime
Minister Trudeau has been up there now for about seven
or eight years, the son Justin Trudeau, the son of
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Pierre Trudeau, the head of the Liberal Party in Canada,
and he has has said that he is going to
resign or has reasons as the head of his party,
which is the equivalent of the Democratic Party in Canada,
and that there will be an election. And I had
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a couple of texts with friends of mine up in
Canada who was suggesting that it's perhaps going to follow
as night follows day, that the power in Canada will
swing back to the Conservative Party. Now, the Conservative Party
is not exactly the Republican Party, Liberal Party, not exactly
the Democrat, but they're analogous. And certainly it's ironic that
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Pierre Trudeau not Pierre Trudeau, justin Trudeau has decided to
step aside because his whole numbers have tanked, have tanked
at the same time, he had to go down to
Mari Lago, or he didn't have to, but he went
down to Mary Lago to pay homage to Donald Trump.
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After the election in November didn't quite work for him.
Trump kept the president elect, kept calling him governor as
if he was the governor of the fifty first state.
So what I'm hoping for is some of you who
are listening in Canada tonight, and I know there are
many listeners at nightside in Canada tonight, well pick up
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the phone and give us a call. Six one seven
two five four ten thirty or six one seven ninety
three one ten thirty. Give us a call and tell
us what the political temperature is in Canada. And we
know what the weather temperature is. It's cold everywhere. I'm
sure that anyone who's listening to me tonight, if you
step outside, it's going to be somewhere around ten degrees
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either ten degrees for real or ten degrees windshow factor.
But I'd love to know what the political temperature is
in Canada now. Apparently parliament has been suspended in Canada
until March, and that's interesting because I guess that is
the period of time that the Liberal Party in Canada
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will have that a period of time to pick their
new leader, and then there will be an election schedule.
I guess the election has to be scheduled no later
than next October, and whether or not Canada will follow
what has happened in America and elect a conservative prime minister,
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kind of like a Brian Mulrooney. I don't know how
many of you remember Brian mulroney, but he was prime
minister when Reagan was president, when George Bush was president,
and he was very effective prime minister. But like anything else,
their time in office winds down and the economy goes
in one direction or the other and it's time for
a change. We do the same thing in this country.
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We move back and forth between democratic and Republican presidents,
and they move back and forth between liberal which is
the equivalent of Democrats, or a conservative, which is the
equivalent of Republicans. They call them liberals and conservatives. That's
probably what we should do in this country as well,
but nonetheless that's the way it works up there. So
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I'd love to know what your thought is about the
decision of the Prime Minister of Canada, who for a
while was a darling in Canada. Then he ran into
problems a couple of years ago with the truck remember
the big truckers strike up there. He has I think
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been pretty arrogant as prime minister. He, as I say,
came from a political family, probably felt all along that
he was destined that his destiny was to be a
prime minister, and he did become a prime minister for
seven years, had a fairly good relationship with Joe Biden,
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and maybe he saw the writing on the wall. So
I'm going to to open up the phone lines, and
I hope that as many of you who might be
listening in Canada tonight, and believe me, some of you
I know by name. I'm not going to call you out,
but I'd love to know. Maybe you can give us
some information, you can teach us a little bit. My
belief is that the timetable, if you will, is the
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Liberal Party has until some time in March to pick
a new leader, and then when Parliament returns in March, reassembles,
goes back in the session. Whatever phrase you use. In Canada,
Parliament will set an election date. And your election is
different than ours. We vote by states, and we have
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the electoral college, a popular vote in the various states.
Everybody I think now understands the US the election of
a president popular vote is important, but the most important
vote is the electoral college vote up there. It's a
parliamentary democracy, as I understand it, and so you have
I don't even know how many members of parliament there.
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I could look it up and maybe someone up there
can tell me. Uh. And the majority then forms the government,
and sometimes you have minor parties, just as that as
happens in countries like England and France and Israel and Germany. Uh.
And sometimes a party does not have the strict majority. Uh,
and they need to work deals with minor parties. And
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it's a little more complicated in Canada than it is
in the US, I think, although one could argue we're
pretty complicated to So the numbers yeah, six one seven, two, five,
four ten, thirty six one seven, nine, three one ten, thirty.
If you are American and you want to comment on
Trudeau's decision to leave not only again as as the
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Prime minister eventually, but as the leader of his party
right now. I'm not telling you not to call, but
I would love to hear from as many Canadians listeners
as possible. And if you guys don't want to talk
about this subject, if it's beyond the capacity or the
interest of my audience, then we'll move on to something else.
Six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty six one seven,
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nine three one ten thirty. This is a bit of
a challenge. Let's have at it. We'll take a break,
coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
All right, well, we haven't that what you would call
overwhelming reaction to my proposal that we talk about the
implications of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's resignation as Liberal
Party leader. However, we have my friend Daryl from New Brunswick, Canada,
my most loyal Canadian listener. Come on, you folks up
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there in Canada, let's hear from you. We you were
not the fifty first state yet maybe you never will be.
I suspect you won't be, but we'd love to learn
a little bit more about your politics up there. Hey, Daryl,
appreciate you calling in.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
How are you any Dan? I haven't been able to
get reception, so I had to actually call in because
they might be jamming it right. No, But happy New Year.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Happy new you. You mean you have a tough time
getting us recently.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Uh, well, we've had a few storms up here, as
you guys bet as well, and uh so that could be.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Part of the week. Just yeah, Joe, we've just had
really cold weather. I mean we we we had a
little bit of a snowstorm before Christmas and and and
it got real cold and the ground was covered with
snow and then we had some rain in the fifties
and everything melted away. But since the weekend, it's been
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cold down here. I mean it is, we're we're kind
of in an ice box right now.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And I suspect that it's around minus twenty six celsius
here and I can't. Okay, then you a hormometer, Well
you know you could.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Just read tell me minus twenty six celsius. That means
you're down around what we would call zero fahrenheit, right
because you're you're, you're.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You're zero thirty two is zero.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, right, so.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Your mind us. But if you have any local government
people running for elections saying they filled all the potholes,
they've done it when it actually freezes.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Oh good, well yeah, so uh snow, well you do.
You have snow on the ground, A lot of snow
on the ground.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
We got a little bit, but it's more ice because
of everything froze, so all the potholes are filled. Right. Wow. Wow,
it's the comedy of it as well.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Right, I got you, I got you. So, uh tell
us about Justin Trudeau and what's going to happen when
you finally get around to having an election.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
We have been asking uh Justin to uh step back
for quite a while and uh because in my opinion,
I've met a bunch of other prime ministers prior to
that in the military part of our duties, right, and
with that, he has had no responsibility, uh to take
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upon himself.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Never he never served in the Canadian military.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
No, No, he his father was well to do. And
you know, just like other people, you know, once they
have certain people in their family, they can live off
the name possibly, but we're not going to do a
bashing on in Trudeau. But he is not a leader, right,
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who are the Conservatives?
Speaker 3 (10:36):
I mean, did the Conservatives have a front runner Pierre Poliev?
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And he is actually from the West.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And I've spent time in the West as well for
quite a number of years, and he has everything more
in sequence.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
When you said the West, are you talking about Ottawa?
Are you talking about Calgary, because that's a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Uh, No, Alberta, Manitoba, Oh, you name it.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
That is the West. Okay, that's uh. We been here
in New England, as you might know, Daryl, We here
in New England, think of uh oh, places like New
Jersey is west, you know, anything outside of New England
only kidding?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
So no, they the furthest I've been up is towards Alaska.
So but uh that was when I was working on
the drawing rings. Right.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Wow, that's that's interesting. How old the guy is he?
How is he he's he's Trudeau's age or older?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Uh? Well, Trudeau is about I think he's around fifty.
I think I'm not sure. Okay, he just doesn't have
his own plane, so that's probably why he didn't resign,
right so because he still wants to.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Jump around here and there, right so so do so
as the as the as the prime minister of Canada,
he's got the equivalent of Air Force one. He's got it.
He's got it. Okay, fine, yeah, well, look, as I
understand that, what was I understand that, And as I say,
I want to hear what would you tell me? I
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know you were joking a little bit there is that
he has resigned as the head of the party. But
someone's got to be prime minister and he can't resign
as prime minister until you get a new prime minister. Right.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Well, no, he could have. He could have given it
to the deputy, just like you guys have the VP
okay and the House and all that stuff, right, But
he elected to keep himself on as the guy in
charge until they re elect somebody else. But when you
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mentioned about he progued government until twenty four March. The
reason he did that is the House will sit when
that comes back to on the twenty fifth, and because
we still have to pass our budget. Yeah, otherwise the
government would have no ability to spend.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
So okay, so let me we have we're in the
same situation, by the way, with our debt ceiling. But
that's another story. So let me ask you this. They
come back in March, do they have to have a
vote of no confidence or the fact that he has
resigned as the Liberal leader, does that avoid that? And
do they just they'll announce an election date.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
What that does is there is going to be an
election date because all three what we have is multiple
parties and so what we have is the Quebec Law.
We have the NDP New Democratic Party and the Conservatives
and the Green Party, but they really are non existent.
So all these people collectively are going to actually vote
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in no confidence, vote against Liberals for the continuance of
putting things in disrepair.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So they will. So what I'm trying to understand, Darryl,
and help me out because my question is probably not
as good as they should be, and I appreciate I'm
you calling in. They will have to have a no
confidence vote, which then will formally challenge him as prime
minister or challenge basically call for a new election of
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a prime minister. When do you think they will set
the election date. I think they have to do it
at least by October, as I understand it.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
It'll probably be immediate. What will happen is because what
I'm getting at is here we have the ability just
like Britain where if you have one party to support
another with a multiple parties yep, and if you have
enough vote then you can actually keep the government going.
And that's what the NDP has been doing right right.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
So now a government with some of the money, we
get that. That's a lot that happens in a lot
of the parliamentary democracies. Absolutely, we understand that.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah, So what's going to happen is they're going to
call ano no confidence vote and therefore at least the
money will be able to be spent to pass to
run the country. But after that, the Governor General will
call the election because the no confidence vote will actually
say that the people do not have confidence in the practice.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And totally get that, totally. So let me ask you,
in your opinion, when will Canada elect a new prime minister?
Will give me a rough idea of the date of
the election.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
As we're going on to start in March twenty fifth,
that's when they because they'll have what thirty one thirty
five days to go from there, because what they're doing
with parroguing government stalling.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I got that. No, you've already explained. What they're doing
is they're given what they're going to trying to.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Give them the Liberal What they're doing is they're given
the Liberals the ability to elect a new leader.
Speaker 3 (15:55):
No, I get that. I've already explained that, Darryl. Please
listen to my question and help me out. So March
twenty fifth comes the no confidence vote. How long we
always have elections every four years? Okay, it's I can
tell you the date of the next election in twenty
twenty eight. All I gotta do is look at the
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calendar and find the first Tuesday after the first Monday. Okay.
So my question to you is when do you think
the election will actually be held. It won't be held
on March twenty sixth, because there's going to be a campaign.
How long do you think Just give me a date,
give me an idea.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
What is your thought or look in spring it's normally
it's within thirty one to thirty five days or whatever. Okay,
So may may may, yeah, correct.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Okay for enough, all right, Daryl, I appreciate you taking
the time to call you the one Canadian listener who
was called I'm totally disappointed that most of the other
Canadian listeners do not want to share the point of
viewing it. But I appreciate your friendship and I appreciate
your calling. Thank you, Darrel, appreciate it much. Well.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
The other Canadian listeners might be still shaking their heads
and hearing led Zeppelin, right.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I don't know. I would hope that they'll listen if
I would hope that they'll listen in to Night's Side.
So you're telling me you haven't been able to listen
to my show recently.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Uh, well no, I actually had it up until you
switched over to the Justin Trill thing and then the
signal went.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
So you're listening on the radio or you listening on
the app.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm just listening on my mak Makita construction radio if
there's a plug there.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Good enough, fair enough, Okay, Well, I there's no reason
that you should have lost us. But I thank you
for joining us. Thanks, thanks, Darrel. Appreciate the call. Have
a good one. Helped me out more than I can
I can I can say thanks, all right, thanks Daryl,
have a good one. All right. We're going to go
to a newscaster in about two minutes. And I'm going
to tell you real quickly if if those of you,
(17:57):
if if our signal is not getting into Canada tonight,
I'm really upset. But if you're up there listening tonight
in Canada, I would hope that you would help educate
us here in America as to what's likely going to
happen in Canada. We do know, and Daryl has helped us,
and he has helped us explain and understand that there
(18:20):
will be no confidence vote in Trudeau. He'll go through
that embarrassment and that will set the stage for an election,
which Daryl said would be somewhere in the vicinity of
thirty one to thirty five days, which would mean sometime
in May. It's going to be fascinating to think that
Canada will follow the US. I mean, Canada is a
very different form of government than the United States. It
(18:44):
is a very it's a socialist government. You have a
lot of the medical programs up there Cradle Grave, you
have high taxation, you have a lot of benefits, medical benefits.
But also in Canada, you can't just you can't get
(19:04):
to see a doctor quickly. And that's part of the problem,
uh that I guess you do have the ability if
you want to pay exorbitant sums in Canada to have
your own private doctor. But if you're going to rely
upon the government health services, you know you'll get you'll
get treated eventually. And I guess if you have an
emergency and go to a mergency room, but if you're
(19:26):
looking to have some form of elective surgery or some
surgery that can be being can be put off, it
could take a few weeks, maybe even a few months.
So not a perfect system, very expensive system, but that's
that's kind of what is built into the Canadian form
of government. So taking a break, if you want to
(19:47):
talk about this great dial now forever hold your peace.
Six one seven, two, five four ten thirty six one
seven nine three one ten thirty and triple eight nine
two nine, ten thirty. I don't even know if the
triple eight number makes it easier for my Canadian listeners.
If if no one wants to talk about Justin Trudeau,
we will move on to something Mills. But right now
(20:09):
I'm going to move on to the news. My name's
Dan Ray. This is Nightside. Don't fail me now, coming
back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on w Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
All Right, tomorrow night at nine o'clock, we will have
Harvey Silverglate with us. Harvey, great thinker, great lawyer, a
founder of the Foundation Fire and we're going to talk
with Harvey. We talked last week about the guy down
in New Orleans was obviously radicalized by some of the
(20:50):
ISIS web isist websites, and whether those icist websites are
on the dark web or regularly out there. I was
raising the question of how do we basically take these
people who are exposing themselves to this and should they
get a visit from the FBI? So someone said, well,
(21:14):
what do you think Harvey's going to think about it?
And I said, let's go ahead and let's invite Harvey on.
So Harvey will be on tomorrow night. Also, as a
quick note of personal privilege, I just want to note
the passing of a friend of mine over the weekend.
I'm not going to go into details, but a good
(21:36):
friend of mine from Charlestown, Richie Craven, who I had
the pleasure of for a period of time playing hockey
with him at Boston State College, who's a really good defenseman.
He actually after he graduated from Boston State College, played
a fifth year of college hockey, went up to play hockey.
(21:58):
And McGill loved the Bruins, loved his family, loved his teammates,
and he was a real good friend who ran into
some medical troubles.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
And the medical troubles overtook him. And the reminder, if
you're in Charlestown, and if you if you're in Charlestown,
you know who Richie Craven was. He will be waked
tomorrow at the car Funeral Home and then his life
will be celebrated in funeral mass on Friday. UH. Really
(22:36):
good guy, someone who loved life, lived it to the fullest.
I and kept in touch. You know, one of those
friends from college who you kept, who you keep in
touch with. Uh. And we would have breakfast occasionally, and
Richie always had. He was a bundle of energy, just
(22:58):
an absolute bundle of energy. And to think that he's
no longer with us is to me frightening and it's
sobering because none of us get out of this place alive.
And I just wanted as a small tribute, I mentioned
his name tonight. He was a loyal listener of this program.
(23:19):
He and I agreed on both are our love of
the Bruins and our love of politics. He could talk
politics with the best of them, and somebody who was
well read, well rounded, and competed in hockey. I was
talking with a mutual friend of ours tonight, long after
(23:39):
most of us have put our skates away. Richwood was
in senior leagues until he probably hit the half century
mark at least. So again, Richie Craven, rest in peace.
You deserve it. Your family has been very supportive of
you the last couple of years, and I know it
(24:01):
hasn't been easy for you, and it won't be easy
for all of your friends to say goodbye to you
in the next couple of days. But know this, you'll
be remembered by a lot of people in the next
few days and well into the time that we have left.
Richie Craven of Charlestown, Boston State College Defenseman. All right,
(24:23):
we got a couple of our callers from from Canada,
so I'm appreciative of that. It's good to know that
Penelope has joined us from Ottawa, where of course Parliament sits.
Speaker 6 (24:37):
Hi, Penelope, how are you good evening?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I can't sleep, so I may as well call in.
I'm pretty good.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I've talked to you before, if I if I recall.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
No, you haven't, but really we should have called before
when you first I called.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Thank you very much. Tell us, you know, for a
Canadian perspective, what should we as Americans know about what's
going to happen up in Canada in the next few months.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Okay, so I'm cheating a bit. I found a BBC
site and they're telling me the numbers. Apparently we have
three hundred and thirty eight members of Parliament that's in
the House.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
And thank you very much for cheating. Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yeah, So when the No Continent's motion has brought, the
Liberals will need the backing of a majority of them
and their seventeen seats short of that, and so far
the NDP has backed them and given them enough to
keep going over the hall lately, but the NDP leader
(25:45):
has said that he's going to vote against the Liberal
Party when that No Continent's vote happens. So parliament will
be will fold. When will there be an election? I
say it will be in June. They never have a
elections in July and August because they don't want to
interrupt people with their summer holidays.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Summer holidays have to be very important. That's a very
interesting point. We of course don't have elections, although we
do have some primaries. They used to have presidential primaries
as late as sometimes in June. But but you're right,
we don't have important elections in July or August as well. Okay,
(26:26):
that's good information. Tell me, tell me more.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
So the way it works up here is that the
leader of the party with the most vote, with the
most writings that they win, becomes the Prime Minister of Canada.
And that's the way it goes. We don't have any
electoral college or anything like.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
You have no popular vote. Basically, it's like our congress.
Your parliament is our congress.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yes, and then we have we have a Senate, which
is appointed by the government in charge. So Trudeau has
been appointing a number of people, including a lawyer from
the town that I practice in and chief now a
senator in Ottawa and it's a lifetime appointment. Ken Dryden,
(27:19):
the hockey player, was made a senator at one point
as well.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
So now is that an honorific or is that an
actual position? That has responsibilities and obligations.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Well, they have responsibilities. They can initiate bills. You can
have bills that are that are put forward from either
the House of Commons or from the Senate. And if
they're from the Comments it's C dash and there's a
number attached to each bill that comes forward, and if
it's from the Senate, it's an S dash. And and
(27:49):
so the way that Pierre Paaldiev is the leader of
the Progressive Conservative figure that one out.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Yeah, a little bit of an ore on there, Penelope.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, So he's the leader of the Progressive Conservative Party
and if the election was held tomorrow, he would have
a clear majority, meaning that he would not have to
band together with another minor party to get enough seats
to hold sway in anything that he wanted to push through.
(28:22):
And so we tend to follow you guys, whatever the
it's global. Everything is moving now more towards the right. Yes,
and yeah, so we're going back that direction. And I'd
like to follow the old thing. If you don't vote
liberally in your twenties, you're heartless, and if you don't
vote conservative in your forties or brainless.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yes, I believe that that was once attributed to Winston Churchill.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
I don't know, but it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Let me ask you this, and I love talking to
another barrister, a member of the bar. Yeah, you Canada.
Actually your head of state is the King of England.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
That's the honorary, honorific head of state is the King. Now, yes,
and with the King, are you still.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Are you still a commonwealth?
Speaker 6 (29:23):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yes, we're part of the British Commonwealth.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Okay, good enough, Okay, So not likely that you're going
to become the city. Not likely you're going to become
the fifty first day.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
No, God bless them. I had ancestors that came to
New England in the sixteen hundreds and fought in the
Revolutionary War and then eventually made their way up here.
And here we are, and here I'll stay.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
All right, Well, Penelope, I loved your call. Thank you
for listening to Night's side. I don't know how often
we have you the pleasure of your company, but please
call again that it was a very fun. I just
want to add one thing, and I want to make
sure that it makes sense to you for Americans who
might not understand how a parliamentary democracy formulates. If you
(30:10):
compare it to our you know what, you would have
considered to be sort of like the House of Commons,
our Congress. If we had our elections similar to you,
as a parliamentary democracy, our prime minister would be Mike Johnson,
the Speaker of the House, because he would have the
(30:31):
majority number of votes, assuming that all the Republicans would
support him, which is maybe a question, but that is
kind of the way it would go. There would be
no Donald Trump, there would be no jd. Vance having
run a national election. Mike Johnson would become the prime minister,
therefore the actual head of government at this point.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Yeah, okay, yeah, no, we don't have a specific We
can't vote specifically for the prime minister. The politician. Trudeau's
a politician that has a riding in the Montreal area
and the people in his Montreal I mean, it could
happen that as leader of the Liberal Party, he would
(31:15):
he would be pushed to the prime minister role and
still lose his seat, and then that would be a
big quandary. But if he wasn't voted in his own
in his own riding, has that.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Happened, has that happened before? Or no?
Speaker 4 (31:29):
I don't think so I don't think so think.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You know my favorite Canadian prime minister has been in
my lifetime.
Speaker 6 (31:35):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Brian mulrooney.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
He was good. He's the first first person I ever
voted for because I turned eighteen just around that time
and I was living in Alberta at that time as well,
and it was very, very conservative leaning and they just
absolutely hated Trudeau Senior.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah, I remember, I do remember then. LP. Thank you
so much. I loved your call. You're a breath of
fresh air from the far North. And please continue to
listen and keep calling.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Okay, I will take care and thanks. Maybe you can sleep.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Now, I hope you can't. Okay, Thanks very much. You've
done this a great service. Thank you. I have Greg
and Ontario coming up, Tim and Wilburn and Jim in
Kansas City. I think Jim was with us earlier this week,
So Jim hanging in there. We'll get to you, I hope.
But we're going to go next to Greg and Ontario
right after this break.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Let's go to Greg and Ontario. Greg, thanks very much
for calling in tell us something about Canadian politics that
we need to understand.
Speaker 5 (32:46):
Hi, Dan, pleasure to talk to you. I just want
to start off saying I am a lifelong bought some
Bruins fan. Okay, I'm invested in Boston.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
Thank you very much. How'd you become a Bruins fan?
What'd you do? Grow up watching Bobby orr Or?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Actually you hit it on the head. When I was
about eight years old back in nineteen sixty eight, I
lived across from Detroit Windsor. My dad brought me to
our first hockey game at the Old Olympia in Detroit
to watch the Wings. Yeah, and I was like eight,
I was starting to play hockey. Yeah. And then and
I seen Bobby or play, Yeah, a rookie.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
So you weren't rooting for Gordie how Ted Lindsay, Alex Delvecchio,
Terry Sawchuk or any of the Red Wings.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Yeah no, yeah, they were all great players as well
as you know obviously. Yeah, no, I was. I'm dying
the wool Bruins fan man. And actually I'm glad i am,
because I'll tell you what, living in Canada being a
Bruins fan right now is glorious. Because I'm surrounded by
Toronto Mapley fans. You could imagine when I walk in
(33:57):
the room with a hat with Boston logo on it.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yeah. Well, the Maple Leafs. The Maple Leafs played pretty
well the other night. I thought Matthews had a great
goal at the end there where he was literally sprawling
on the ice and somehow he put it. He put
it into the empty net, almost like a pool shot.
Did you see that goal?
Speaker 5 (34:16):
I did see that. Yes, I did see that.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
He's a good, strong player.
Speaker 5 (34:20):
Yeah, he's a great player. Like I think, well, between
him and McDavid for the best two players in the league.
Speaker 3 (34:29):
Marty is not bad with the Leafs either, by the way,
as I'm sure you know.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah, oh yeah, oh, so many great players, right.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, McDavid had fun here in Boston last night. The
Oilers shut out the Bruins for nothing, and he had
he at least had one goal. I'm not sure if
he had any assists. So Greg, let's talk a little.
By the way, are you first time caller? Have you
called before?
Speaker 5 (34:50):
We first time caller? I I just started picking your
station up maybe a couple of weeks ago, and yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well we're here. We talked football earlier this week. So
we occasionally venture into the sporting round, but we're not
a sports show per se. We mostly do politics carent events.
So Penelope did a really good job running down, uh,
your your elections that are upcoming. So let me push
the push the envelope a little bit with you. What's
(35:23):
gonna happen? Normally, Uh, Canada and the US tend to
kind of vote the same way. I may I remember
when Malrooney was was your prime minister was during Bush
and Reagan's time. Uh, And obviously Trudeau has has has been,
you know, prime minister with with Biden's time. But I
(35:45):
also think Trudeau kind of became your Barack Obama, if
you know, if what I'm saying, young leader, and after
he was elected, after after Obama left office, what do
you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 5 (36:00):
Well, thankfully he stepped down. He's resigned Trudeau as you
as you know, and yeah, so he's finished. He had
nobody in this country, very few people you talk to
in this country right now will have anything good to
say about Justin Trudeau. Paulie holds about a twenty point
lead right now on him, and that's not going to change.
(36:21):
So PAULI has like penelopees that you did a great
job on explaining everything that. Yeah, yeah, and he's going
to win. I think he's going to do a majority.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
So yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
In this country right now, for the last but almost
ten years under Trudeau. I'm sixty five, so I've seen
a lot of prime ministers come and go. He's to
me the biggest embarrassment to this country. He's done more
harm to the fabric of the society in this country
than any prime minister, hands down, which is a shame.
(36:57):
He doesn't listen. He's a bit of a dict We
we joke around here a lot. Well it's not even
a joke anymore. We say that the one be little
dictator because that's how we feel about this man. He
treats us like children, speaks to us like children. So
he's finished and he had it coming. So I don't
feel anything more so empathy for for Justin Trude, who
(37:20):
at all.
Speaker 3 (37:21):
Well, maybe maybe we can get Bobby or to run
for I think you'd win. Bobby, by the way, is
that great? Have you ever met him?
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Or No?
Speaker 5 (37:31):
I have not?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
No great guy. Next time I see him, I'll tell
him you said hello, Okay, I promise you he's a
great guy. Hi, Greg, I hope you'll continue to listen.
I got a couple more folks who want to sneak
in here, but thank you.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
If I could just say one quick thing, sure, yeah, okay,
I know you. You mentioned healthcare in this country, and
I just want to say, I just want to say quickly,
do not ever allow America to go down the social
healthcare path. People who are any Canadian that says we
have good healthcare has no idea matter of fact, Dan,
(38:05):
I've had to go to Detroit, Michigan three times and
spend money out of my pocket to get timely healthcare.
And I need some orthopedic surgery done. I'm going to
Germany to get it done because I've been waiting in
this country for three years and not me alone, thousands
and thousands of Canadians. It is an absolute disaster. Don't
(38:29):
go down this path.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
Okay, Greg. I agree with you totally. You are going
to love my show the more you listen to my show.
Trust me.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
Okay, absolutely, Dan.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
Thanks Greg, and look forward to talking again. Thank you
so much.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Yeah. Thanks great talking to you.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Great to talk to you. Let me go to Tim
and Wilburn. Tim next on nights.
Speaker 6 (38:46):
I go ahead, Hi Dan, Tim, I'm drinking my on
of my night side cup again. Anyhow, the reason I called,
I don't know much about the topic, but I want
to give you my condolence about this. Ricky Craven guy,
Richie Craven.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, great guy, Thank you.
Speaker 6 (39:02):
Anyhow, Tom, I set a prayer for him, and.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Tomorrow I'll let him know that through mental telepathy.
Speaker 6 (39:12):
Okay, all right, tell him Tim McMahon is praying for him.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
All right, Thanks, Tim, appreciate your time, Appreciate your call
and your your sentiments. Thanks so much. Okay, Well, my friend,
good night, Jim Ai Kansas City. Jim, going to get
you in here. Only got about thirty seconds for you, buddy.
I know you've been waiting, and I know you've been patient,
and I apologize for that.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Go right ahead, Jim, Jim, Hey damn yeah yeah. So okay. Well,
I listened to Canadian radio a little bit, and it
sounds to me like if it was until Trump took over,
it was going the same exact way that it has
been going for quite a while, which leads me to
continue to believe that they don't really have a democracy.
(39:53):
So with the other thing. The thing I kind of
don't like what was going on is it seems like
Trump in a sneaky way. It is continuing right on
with this whole transcontinental Global Union saying where they want to.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Make Beautyboddy talking about it a lot, Jim. I promise
you we'll talk about this later this week or next week.
And I'm really going to give an opportunity to chat.
But I'm I'm flat out a time. I gave the
Canadians a chance tonight.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Okay, all right, dog and cats a thanks.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Good night. All right, we're done for the night. I
want to thank everyone that did call, particularly Darryl, Penelope
and Greg. I want to thank Rob. I want to
thank Marita. I want to thank all of you who listened.
My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside. Our dogs, all cats,
Oh pets go to heaven. That's why Pal Charlie rays
Will passed fifteen years ago in February. That's all your
pets are who have passed. They loved you and you
(40:47):
love them. I do believe you'll see them again. Hope
to see geinnymorrow night. On Night Side, I will do
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