January 15, 2025 • 39 mins
President Joe Biden delivered remarks from the Oval Office, outlining his achievements while serving as our 46th president. In this final address, Biden shared highlights his administration’s work in growing the jobs market, lowering prescription drug costs, and developing clean energy policies.
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Israel and Hamas agreed to a ceasefire which pauses fighting in Gaza and leads to a phased release of hostages and Palestinian prisoners. The deal begins Sunday and Hamas is expected to release 33 hostages during this first phase.
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Israel and Hamas agreed to a ceasefire which pauses fighting in Gaza and leads to a phased release of hostages and Palestinian prisoners. The deal begins Sunday and Hamas is expected to release 33 hostages during this first phase.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray w b Z Costin's
news Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So we have a couple of big stories going on tonight,
and you decide what you want to talk about. One
is the farewell address that President Biden just delivered from
behind the Resolute Desk at the White House in the
Oval Office. There's still a few days left in his administration. Left.
Have you given a grade? We had a couple of
grades last hour, one which was good, one which was bad.
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Or we can talk about the other big news of
the day, which might even be bigger news, and that
is the cease fire that is scheduled to last now
for six weeks, which will involve the release of some
Israeli hostages by Jimas and the release of some Hamas
prisoners Palestinian prisoners by Israel. We get to all of that,
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but let's start it off here. Let me go next
to Tammy is in Marlborough, Massachusetts. Tammy, you were next
on Nightside. Your choice? What what would you like to
talk about?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Dan, I just wanted to talk about Biden a little bit,
and so, I mean overall, I liked his speech. It
would give him a bee, but I did find it
a little frustrating to listen to him saying that we
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need to uphold these values when he has more power
to do that than we do. And I feel like
he sat back a lot too. And I feel like
everyone is afraid of the incoming administration, the ones that
don't like him, and and they're all too afraid and
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he's untouchable and I'm not sure why, and there's still
a lot of secrets going on here, but it's just
very frustrating emotionally to listen to that, to listen to
him say that when I feel like he needs he
needed to do more there. So I feel like he
failed to clamp down on him. And the misinformation to
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me is extremely damaging. I know more than one young
man who listens to TikTok constantly and listens to you
need to be ready for war. We're getting you ready
for war. They're brainwashing kids, and it drives me crazy
to hear these leave it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm not a TikTok guy, Help me out, who is okay?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, most young men and women are getting their news
from TikTok now, So to say that we don't need
to that, we don't need to clamp down on this misinformation.
This is why they're even in office now because of
the misinformation. So to me, okay, we don't need that
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
No, let me let me slow you down for a second. Okay,
let me tell you what I was trying to say,
and you can more than welcome to disagree with me. Okay.
Long before Facebook, long before Twitter, long before x long
before Instagram, TikTok and all the others. So you know
this galaxy program programs, we had newspapers, we had radio
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and television, and ideas were bounced back and forth, and
there was a lot of misinformation. But I think eventually,
in most cases more now the truth came out. Well,
there may be more information missmit information because there's more
information around, But I don't think yes to misinformation is
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to try to shut things down. Now. TikTok is a
different situation from my perspective.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
TikTok is I don't even know why they said they
wanted to close them down, but I don't think it
was because of the misinformation. No, no, no, no, probably
for another reason.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Right, TikTok is owned by a company, a Chinese company
which functions functions if no under the control, under the
influence of China because any company in China, and the argument,
and by the way, there was bipartisan support. They were both.
Donald Trump now apparently has flipped on that and is
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not in favor of shutting TikTok down. The Biden administration
has said, either shut it down or sell it to
a US company, And that's where the rub is right now.
And the concern was that China, with all of the
technical abilities that now exist that didn't exist ten years
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ago or thirty years ago or fifty years ago, is
able to call all sorts of information from TikTok uses,
many of whom are young kids, and that so that's
the concern with them in terms of the misinformation that
meta not just TikTok.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
It is because the TikTok reels are on YouTube, they're
on book, people are sharing them everywhere, and there's tons
of misinformation that is, you know, spewed and it's just
really brainwashing people, and no one the hell knows.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
What's what are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
My question to you, here's my question to you, Timmy,
what do you propose be done?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Well? The only thing I can think of is to
make sure that they're not saying things that are that
are negative over and over and being shared over and over.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
How I understand your hope and aspiration?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, I mean, if I have to be responsible for
the work that walks out of my door when I'm working,
why don't these people who who are putting it on
their platform, why aren't they responsible for making sure it's.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Who's going to lose all information? You? I don't know
what sort of work you do, but I'm sure you're
good at it, and I'm sure that when there is
a mistake that you make, and maybe you don't make
mistakes that your boss or your supervisor. Right, of course
we do, of course we do. But what I'm saying
is you work. You work for a private company. Yes, okay,
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so that company, in order to stay in business, wants
to make sure that it complies with rules and regulations
and and and builds people properly and all that. So,
so you report to the rules with.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
This information thing. But I don't know, I mean, this
is what.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Are you going to, Who's going to who's going to
shut these companies down? Who's going to control the companies?
Are you going to go in and send the military
in to take over the companies and say you're out
of business.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I mean, it's like, if you think about it, we
need to start talking about the fact that there are
a lot of lies. Why is our whole society, you know,
why are they building everything they think and feel onlines?
Why are they being brainwashed? This is like a thickness
that's happening now, It's like an addiction. We'll be tryphone
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in the tweet.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
We tried to We try to do that here. The
question what I'm trying to say is back in the
old days, I mean, like a hundred years ago, there
were competitive newspapers in these in America. There was no TikTok,
there was no matter, you know that. So you had
in New York City you probably had twenty newspapers. You
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had yellow journalism. You had in the eighteen hundreds in
this country, I mean horrific, horrific newspapers that we peddled
in the street. Now, I will admit to you that
the newspapers that were peddled in the eighteen hundreds and
in the nineteen twenties and the nineteen forties were not
as powerful and as far reaching as the electronic devices
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we have today. But we do not believe in the
government interfering with it information. If I get on the
radio tour night and I say, look, as far as
I'm concerned, the sun no longer rises in the east.
The sun rises in the west and it sets in
the east. People are going to call up and correct me,
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and you're gonna say, what are you talking about, Dan?
I mean, come on. Or if I want to say
a president Obama is now president of the No, he's
not anymore. He served two terms. We do this all
the time on Nightside. But I'm just saying I understand
the problem you're lamenting, trust me, But I don't know
the solution.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, I don't either. So anyone else there who has ideas.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Let's say, maybe someone to call, Hey, Tammy, I loved
your call. You challenging, and I really enjoyed it. And
I hope you continue to listen to Nightside. We try
to do that here all the time. We really do. Uh,
It's what I pride myself on it. And by the way,
also remember you always have to separate fact from opinion.
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If I say to you Joe Biden was the greatest
president in the history of the United States, that is
an opinion. If I say to you the sun rises
in the west. That's a fact that's wrong. Okay, So
just look at it like that, and I think we'll survive.
I'm an optimist, I really do. But as long as
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people like you continue to call this program and have
these conversations, do you know how many people you reached
in this conversation, how many people are now thinking as
a result of the issues you raised. That's what's what's
the magic of this program and what is the magic
of radio. There are people all over the country tonight
who heard what you had to say, Tammy. They never
met you, they're never going to meet you, but you
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made them think tonight, and you made me think tonight.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And I thank you, Oh, thank you for being there.
Thank you, Thanks much.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Talk soon, okay, Love, if you would like to make
a difference six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty, seven, nine, three, one, ten,
thirty the topics that he handed Joe Biden's farewell speech,
and also the remarkable achievement that Israel has accomplished in
the last sixteen months, going from being flat on its
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back tonight to potentially being able to help restore much
democracy and peace to the Middle East. My next caller
is amongst my best callers. Laurie. We'll be back with
her right after this short break.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ the News Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Let's check in with Laurie and Idaho. Laurie, welcome back,
Thank you so much for joining us tonight. What you
think of the president's farewell speech?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Well, you know, I heard the sound bites all day
and I decided my time this evening is probably better
spent in a long, warm shower. So that's what I did.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Probably good. He spock for nineteen minutes. There was no
earth chattering line or it wasn't like Dwight Eisenhower saying
beware of the industrial uh military complex or anything like
that that I could hear of.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I don't want to hear hers this history, like how
he's he did so much to be wonderful things for
four years when really I didn't need to hear that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So yeah, I got the whole with him. He never
mentioned the pullout from Afghanistan. That's one thing that was
never mentioned.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
He talked about.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah. Well, yeah, he did compliment the Vice president twice
and her her historical.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, he ruined her career might as well.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I don't. I keep saying every every time I still
see Jill Biden near near Vice President Harris, it's it's
kind of a chill goes down my spine.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, not warm.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And fuzzy woman, fuzzy. A lot of a lot of
news has come out. Michelle Obama to the surprise of no,
one is not going to attend the presidential inauguration of
Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, yeah, what they want?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I mean, yeah, no, absolutely, President Obama apparently will former
President Obama will. I think it's.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Gonna be in the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
What's that? Oh yeah, okay, Yeah. He seemed to enjoy
his conversations with President Trump. Uh, you know, President elect
Trump still also President Trump. The other day at the
Carter before the Carter funeral, they were very you know.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, he's still personable and charming when he wants to be.
I don't love his politics, but he's you know, it
could be worse.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's going to be interesting. I know that Donald Trump
and Millennia Trump will drive to the White House on
Monday morning and they'll have coffee or tea or whatever
they have inside the White House, And you'd love to
be a fly.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
On the wall.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I you bet there's nothing worth listening to. It's gonna
be all just lighthearted.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well yeah, and then and then they'll they'll ride down
down Pennsylvania or up Pennsylvania Avenue to the to the Capitol.
And I don't think President Biden will stick around for
the inauguration. I think that he and and no, no, no, no,
I don't think so. I think they will walk out
and you know, you know, they will do what they
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have to do, which is uh be there for for
the moments, and then once they go inside, they will
go their way. And President Trump and moment, Yeah, that
makes sense there. Uh. Were you surprised at the ceasefire
today in the Middle East?
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Well, yes, and no, I will first of all, let
me just say that I think everybody runs scared of
having to deal with Trump, and you know, it's just
for me, it's cautiously optimistic. I will believe it when
I see it. When you know, the first one of
the US hostages crosses back into our country. And it
sounds good, but you've got Nawa saying, well, I haven't
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agreed to everything yet, but if we can come.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
It down, so it has to go through his Military
Council and all that. They have their procedures to go through,
but it sounds to me. I spoke yesterday privately with
the new consul general here in Boston, and they were
cautiously optimistic. And we will probably have the new console
Israeli console general on with us sometime next week. When
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that's good.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
No, it's a very good step. I just am cautious.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah. Well, I'll tell you this, when you think about
all the things that the Israeli, I mean, the israel
was flat on its back on October seventh, and they
have somehow come back and destroyed Hespela, that have destroyed
the leadership of Hespela, the leadership of Hamas aside.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Because they didn't listen to the world telling them not to.
They said, darn you, this is our country. We're doing this.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yes, yes, And I learned today from somebody who's a
lot smarter than I am. When they got the head
of Hesbalah. Here's I'm telling this. I'm not telling my
source on it. But he was in a building in Beirut,
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five floors underground. Somehow, some way, the Israelis knew exactly
where he.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Was and exactly when he was going to be there.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
There were three Israeli planes, as I understand it, who
hit that building with a you know, a very big bomb,
three separate wow, three bombs within a period It was
coordinated within a period of eight seconds. So once the
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first one hit, the guy who was the head of wow. Yeah,
and when you at night, right, and you also think
about what they did with the uh, the the exploding
walkie talkies, and I love that, the exploding cell phones.
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And I'm told today they went with the exploding cell phone,
with the exploding cell phones first, because they knew that's
what the leadership had for communication. And they waited a
couple of days to do the walkie talkies because they
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knew that the walkie talkies would then, which were in
a warehouse, would be distributed once the cell phones were
taken out.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Brilliant, delightfully brilliant.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Yes, Yes, A whole lot of.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Respect for Nan and his idea for they were my man,
don't don't make that angry.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Tell you. I think Netanyahoo has been church Chilean here
in terms of what his leadership has meant to his country.
He's he is to Israel what Churchill was to England
at the height of the German Blitzkrieg, you know, bottom
of London, when when London, when London stood alone before
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we got involved. I'm talking nineteen forty, in nineteen forty now,
before we got involved.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
So amazing credit for all of that. I know he
has his detractors, but man, he's a strong leader.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Strong leader and did the right things. And at every
turn some in our country were trying to hold him back.
But he did it ons you know, to coin a
phrase from Frank Sinatra, he did it his way and
guess what it has worked out fabulously. Well. There were
hostages lost, no question, but once they were taken, it
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was that was out of his control and the exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
And there is always going to be collateral damage. But
do you have to do something at that point otherwise
you'd lose your nation?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
So no question, no question.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I get to give him a grade.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, oh yeah, I kind of get a sense of it,
but I want to make it official.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Go ahead, I'm just going to say, I give the
Biden administration and f with the understanding that he didn't
earn it all by himself.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yep, I think that's fair. Okay, the administration gets an
F It's as simple as that. Laurie, Thank you so much.
Always great to hear your voice. I love it.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Good night, You're welcome. We're coming right back. We're talking
about Israel, We're talking about a ceasefire. We're also talking
about the president's farewell speech tonight. Feel free to join
the conversation. Six one seven, two five four to ten
thirty or nine three one six one seven, nine three
one ten thirty. Those are the two magic numbers that
will get you through. You can tell the world what
you think. Simple as that. We'll be back on night Side.
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I have no guest scheduled. You're my guest tonight. You're
my very special cast, coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Let's get back to the calls. Who's been on the
Rachel and Quincy Rachel. You're next on Nightside.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Go right ahead, Hi, Dan, how are you?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Uh? Rachel?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm doing okay, Yeah, I got a lot going on,
but I'm I have no idea what TikTok is. I'm
sixty one years old, so I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, all it is. I can tell you what it is.
It's it's it's like it's similar to Facebook or to
or to Twitter or to x or whatever you want
to call it, and all all it is. It's it's electronic, uh,
and people get on there and they upload videos, U
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upload videos doing dumb things, sometimes doing humorous things other times.
And it's a company that is out of China that
is running it, and that scares the the government, and
both Republicans and Democrats want it to be sold by
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this Chinese company to an American company or they're gonna
shut it down. They I guess have the ability to
shut it down. So yeah, I mean, it's they're all
kind of the same Instagram. They're just the different different
methods to deliver information, correct information or incorrect information.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
But I actually kind of agree with, okay with you know,
like to shut it down.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Does obvious be.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
A reason why they want to shut it down?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Well, the reason why they believe is that the Chinese
government is gleaning information from America's young people about their
personal lives, and that you know, some are suggesting that
ten fifteen, twenty years from now, information about someone who
did something stupid at the age of fifteen, if they're
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in a position of authority somewhere. They could be black mail.
I mean, that's that's the theory as I understand it.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Okay, and I get it, and you know what I
get it. It's social media. Like I said, I'm sixty
one years old, not really confused, but confused. I'm like,
you don't know what's real, you do not know what's sake.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I just have.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
One thing to say. Yep, the new president coming in,
jess give him a chance to bring back what he
sort of did years ago. And if it doesn't work,
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then obviously it doesn't work, but he'll get a chance.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I think he's going to get more of a chance
this time did last time. To be really honest with you,
I think that the twenty sixteen election was an anomaly
in many respects, and I think there were a lot
of people I can remember they were. There were pretty
big demonstrations anti Trump demonstrations the day of the inauguration. Obviously,
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the January sixth riot back in twenty twenty one was
absolutely inappropriate, and hopefully that never happens again, you know,
I mean, let's give him a chance. Let's just as
we should have rooted for Joe Biden's success. Everybody should
roote for Donald Trump's success and hopefully that he turns
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out to be a better president than maybe some people expect.
That's all. We only have one president at a time,
whether you like him or not, whether you voted for
him or not.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You're right again. I agree with you that whole January thing. Whatever,
I completely agree with you. We're at the punch at,
you know, with our country. It's scary. It is absolutely scary.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'm scared. I'm not scared right now. I think that
the slate gets wiped clean. Let's see what happens with
his nominees. I think there was something happened today in
the Middle East, which is a good thing. The stock
market had a good day.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I'm a Trump sient. What I am is you know what.
I manage the company and I'm tough. I do not
care if you like me and if you don't, but
my company is successful, and.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You sound very trumpy and Rachel.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I know, thank you, Dan, but I'm on. I'm petrified,
and I know what.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
What are you petrified of? And why are you petrified?
I don't understand that your candidates, right, I.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Don't know, but I don't know if I ever told you,
but when they staid the whole immigrant whatever sing, somebody
try to break into my house during the day. And
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I was never one of the ones on the news
because I was so afraid. I wouldn't go to court.
I wouldn't do anything. But he had an arms whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, okay, well, Rachel, I don't want to have you
relived that on the air tonight. I can understand it's
something that you know. I once. I once had my
car broken into, many many, many many years ago. I
actually heard the car being broken into, looked out the
window from my condo in Boston, and I wanted to
if I had a gun, I think I would have
shot the guy. If I had I had a plant
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and I wanted to throw it down on him. Uh
And of course he ran away. There was a guy
there who had a getaway car. They were trying to
steal my car. It didn't work. I was able to
interrupt it. But you feel violated, Rachel. I gotta keep
rolling here. Let's be off to the.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I was I was home.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, no, I went, No, you don't. I don't want
to have you relived that in the UK again on
your house locks in your house, get a camera if
you have.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I know, I know, I know, But anyways, you know
how much I love you.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Right back at you, Rachel, I thank you very much,
and I thank you for your loyalty to this program.
And let's hope for the best. Let's you know, there's
a new uh, a new administration comes into power on Monday,
and let's hope that they do the best for the country.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Fair enough, yes, sir, and let it play out. Just
let it play out.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
All right? Thanks, Thanks Rachel, talk to you soon. Let
me go to John and Debt. John, you were next
to the night side. Welcome.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Hey, Dan.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I don't know where to start, but let's try what
Biden speaks there. The one word that always gets me
now with with Biden the Democrats is when they start
talking about democracy. And I think, if you're Biden, Harris Shumer, Obama,
you don't get to even the main street media. You
don't get to see somebody else's a threat to democracy
after what you guys in bold. So this is this
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election and the last two elections, because you guys have
done everything before go by democracy. So that that's the
most frustrating thing I hear and keep saying they want
to say Trump is a thread of democracy. It just
blows my mind that nobody's calling them out on it.
That you can't say that anymore. You screwed it up
and going with a TikTok thing. I don't know if
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this is a great analogy. Do you remember these newspapers,
The Star, National Inquirer. Sure you remember those?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
You remember I talked, I talked to every hour about
the yellow journalism of the nineteenth century and the early
twentieth century. I mean there were newspapers that were I mean,
he was wild.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
They I don't know if it's the dumbing town of America.
I think people were more suspicious about what they were
about their news where they got here from Now it's
it's scary that a lot of the younger generation not
just sound like an old man. They get their news
from TikTok or or maybe not TikTok but social media.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Someone else, someone else said that if that's the only
thing you're watching all day, that's what you think about.
But guess what people have to grow up? If I
would hope that the vest men. Look, we just ran
an election. There were what one hundred and fifty one
hundred and sixty million Americans who participated and voted. I
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think that's a good thing, you.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
Know, as long as that's the other as long as
we have the fact. And that's that's most frustrating the
media because I was looked at the media to be
our watchdogs, and when we don't get all the facts
because you're buying the media is buy us on both sides.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It's just so hard we say, hold on for a second,
Wait a second. Do you look You sound to me
like a guy that watches Fox. Probably right, Oh, I'll.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Actually I watch on networks because I always believe there's
two sides.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Story good, great, that's well, that's perfect. That's exactly what
everybody should do. But what I'm saying is you probably
are most comfortable with the Fox. And you know, look,
I think I think Fox presents a point of view.
There's a lot of facts that they present. There's also
you have to be able to say, Okay, that's a viewpoint,
that's a set of facts. CNN does the same thing.
MSNBC is I think wildly out there, ABC, NBC and CBS.
(29:13):
I think they're going to toe the line a little
bit more. I mean, I think that that Trump was
right that some of the debate fact checking was unfair.
Certainly the ABC debate with David Muir and Lindsey Davis.
I think that he was corrected five times and a
couple of times the fact checkers were wrong. You know, look,
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let's I just want people to be a little more optimistic.
And this the transition here. How would you compare the
transition in this presidency to four years ago? Which one
would you Which one are you happier about?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Well? This is this one, yes, and so so.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Therefore, the Democrats were in power, they didn't rig the election.
I know that they were allegations, but if they were
ever going to have the power to rig the election,
you would think that they would read the election when
they were in power. The election went off, it's done,
and Donald Trump will be president to come Monday at
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noontime the pipe.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Though, I think Democrats did try to rig the election.
I think the administration, the Biden administration was that bad.
There was nothing. When you have media covering up for parties,
that's trying to rig the election. No, it doesn't mean now,
I'll say this. In twenty twenty, Biden got more votes
to Trump no doubt about that. The question is what
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was that based on? And I think you know, and
I know you're gott to wrap it up, but when
you talk about TikTok and stuff, I don't know if
this is possible no matter what the social media platform is.
Maybe you need to discline. What isn't it like some
law of the newspapers have to follow something one thirty
eight where you know about you know, publishing fake information.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
No, no, no, no, newspapers have. Newspapers have complete protection
the First Amendment. Now, can they be sued by if
they libel someone? Yes, but they no one's going to
be out there exercising prior restraint and saying, oh, you
can't publish that. No, no, no, no, no. That's what's
great about the First Amendment. If they screw up, they
pay some money. Look at George Stephanopolis and ABC just
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had to pay Donald Trump a whole bunch of money
because Stephanopolis insisted on saying that Trump had committed rape
when he had not.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
And he's still on the air.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Well that's a whole different story. Now, Don Lemon isn't anymore,
is he. Let's see, let's see who survives. So you have.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Maybe what they need to do is put like whether
it's TikTok x so twitter, whatever you want to call it.
These days, they need to put a disclaimer on hit
me videos and uh information not uh fact or proven
or something.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I would worry about it. I wouldn't worry about it.
I think that that we have so many sources of
Look what you're doing tonight. What I've had four outstanding
calls here, Tammy, Tammy, Laurie, Rachel and you had had
two good calls last hour, Paul and Joe. I just
I really believe what I'm doing is important, or I
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wouldn't be doing it, trust me, Okay, And I hope
wish more people would listen to this show and listen
to different viewpoints and come away with their own conclusions.
I am not going to tell you that the sky
is falling when the sky isn't falling. It's as simple
as that. John. I hate to do this, but you've
been a great caller. Please continue to call this program.
I need quality phone calls. Thank you, Thank ye, that
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great one. We'll take a break, coming right back. Who's
up next? We got Miller and Lawrence and I bet
he's a first time caller, coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World
Nightside Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Next up Miller from Lawrence Miller. I don't ever recall
someone named Miller calling on the program. How are you tonight?
Speaker 8 (33:00):
God knowing that.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
First time? Are you are your first time calling? Mill?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Or?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yes, I ad the round of a ball and welcome,
Welcome the nights. I go right ahead, looking forward to
hearing what you have to say.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I shouldn't have bought as much in pay share.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
I think you said it twice?
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Did Uh?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, there's uh another Well another caller made that very
point last hour, and I understand what you're saying, and
that's okay, No, that's that's The phrase fair share is
always kind of interesting to me. It's like, who determines
how much as a fair share? I mean, obviously it's
a political question, but it's one thing to say, well
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you should pay What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (33:48):
That's a thing.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, yeah, it's a totally different thing, but but what
is it? It's easy to say, well, you know, I'm
paying my fair share, but you're not paying your fish share.
How do you know what I'm paying you know that
sort of thing.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
I mean, I know the hun was indicted because he
didn't pay his first fear.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
He had a friend he had.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Right, but he had a friend then a friend who
out of the goodness of his heart, paid off his
one point four million dollars. I wonder if that had
any relationship to the fact that Hunter was the son
of the President of the United States. We might have maybe,
I don't know. And then then his dad pardoned him
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the dad partnered. I mean, there's there's people sitting on
it in jails in this country every day of the week.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
And as someone who worked on behalf of an individual
who was framed by the FBI and actually won millions
of dollars about twenty years ago, do you I don't
know that that that Joe Schmoe committee the same crime
as Hunter Biden never would have got a pardon from
Joe Biden. I kind of think not.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Let me tell you real quick, how about today his
lawyer's basement in Palisades Park that burnt down and his
home there were two hundred paintings by Hunter, your kid's
lawyer's basement in Palisades Park. They are claiming Hunter and Hey,
over two hundred paintings stored. They're worth millions.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Oh absolutely, Oh my goodness, how about that. That's all
got a break? Maybe maybe they were remembering qualities?
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Oh man, absolutely what yeah?
Speaker 8 (35:45):
I mean talk about the Biden Biden crime family. They're
good man, they don't miss some opportunity.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Well yeah, that's that's yeah. Even even out of the
horror of that that infruno comes some good news. So
there is there is a god after all. Miller, I
love your show, I love your cogments. Thank you so much.
Please continue to call the program. I liked it. Thank you. Night,
(36:14):
good night. Let me go to Joe and Cambridge. Joe,
want to get you in here before the news go
right ahead, joke.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Hi Dan, great topics tonight as usual. So first of all,
is there is there a grade lower than an F minus?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Well you can, you can invent one, but if you could,
you could give a gentleman's F minus.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Well, listen, if there is one out there, multiply that
time's infinity. That's what I give Joe Biden. I can't wait.
January twentieth can't come fast enough. You know, there's no
redeeming quality whatsoever that that I can think of for
that man and that last caller I think put a
fine point on it. The Biden crime family. I hope
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to some day they're investigated and and a lot of
this you know, their their their you know, crimes come
out and you know, and so on.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
But yeah, and I think that there might be some
more pardons coming out for members of And again the
reason that they will come out is because the threat
that that perceived threat that Donald Trump was going to
go after them. I think that would be a huge
mistake if Trump goes after anybody. I hope that his
his his his administration, his time in office is work,
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work for the good of the American people. Show and
what type of president he could be?
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Go ahead, Yeah, and I think sorry, yeah, and I
think he will.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
I think he will in my opinion. And again in
my opinion, I think, you know, Biden will go down
as the worst president in history. And I'm not the
only one saying that, but again that's my opinion. So again,
I don't think is the worst.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
He's not. He's not gonna be a He's not Harry Truman.
Let me put it like that.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
You far from but as far as it now, who
in the whole today's announcements. Hats off credit to Israel
on that. I agree with you one hundred percent. Uh,
I agreed one hundred percent with everything they did that
entire eighteen months since they were originally attacked. Kudos to
them again, going back to the Biden administration and the
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Democrats criticizing him all that time when they were initially
going in and they're more you know, their their support
for Hamas more than it was for Israel. And kudos
to President Trump who's stood by Israel. And I think
that in addition to Nyetnaho and into Israel, I do
believe that that President elect Trump does deserve some credit
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because amazing how all of a sudden now these negotiations,
there's all these breakthroughs, you know, a week before he's
due to come into office, don't I don't find that
coincidental at all?
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Agree? And I think example, because if Hamas had said, hey,
you know, then then what do you do? I mean
if you get into office. I mean I think that
it was a it was a bit of a gamble
for him to stake out that position. He was out
on a limb. Joe, I hate to do this year
but my producers in my ear, you made great points,
and you did it quickly. I got a run. We
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will talk many times, many times sometime next time. Thanks Joe.
Thanks you're on the line, stay there if you're not.
Six one, seven, two, five four ten thirty six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. We got a lot to
talk about, and we got two hours left to do it.
Let's have at it, coming back after after the ten
o'clock news here on night Side
It's Night Side with Dan Ray w b Z Costin's
news Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So we have a couple of big stories going on tonight,
and you decide what you want to talk about. One
is the farewell address that President Biden just delivered from
behind the Resolute Desk at the White House in the
Oval Office. There's still a few days left in his administration. Left.
Have you given a grade? We had a couple of
grades last hour, one which was good, one which was bad.
(00:27):
Or we can talk about the other big news of
the day, which might even be bigger news, and that
is the cease fire that is scheduled to last now
for six weeks, which will involve the release of some
Israeli hostages by Jimas and the release of some Hamas
prisoners Palestinian prisoners by Israel. We get to all of that,
(00:52):
but let's start it off here. Let me go next
to Tammy is in Marlborough, Massachusetts. Tammy, you were next
on Nightside. Your choice? What what would you like to
talk about?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Dan, I just wanted to talk about Biden a little bit,
and so, I mean overall, I liked his speech. It
would give him a bee, but I did find it
a little frustrating to listen to him saying that we
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need to uphold these values when he has more power
to do that than we do. And I feel like
he sat back a lot too. And I feel like
everyone is afraid of the incoming administration, the ones that
don't like him, and and they're all too afraid and
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he's untouchable and I'm not sure why, and there's still
a lot of secrets going on here, but it's just
very frustrating emotionally to listen to that, to listen to
him say that when I feel like he needs he
needed to do more there. So I feel like he
failed to clamp down on him. And the misinformation to
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me is extremely damaging. I know more than one young
man who listens to TikTok constantly and listens to you
need to be ready for war. We're getting you ready
for war. They're brainwashing kids, and it drives me crazy
to hear these leave it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm not a TikTok guy, Help me out, who is okay?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Well, most young men and women are getting their news
from TikTok now, So to say that we don't need
to that, we don't need to clamp down on this misinformation.
This is why they're even in office now because of
the misinformation. So to me, okay, we don't need that
is crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
No, let me let me slow you down for a second. Okay,
let me tell you what I was trying to say,
and you can more than welcome to disagree with me. Okay.
Long before Facebook, long before Twitter, long before x long
before Instagram, TikTok and all the others. So you know
this galaxy program programs, we had newspapers, we had radio
(03:14):
and television, and ideas were bounced back and forth, and
there was a lot of misinformation. But I think eventually,
in most cases more now the truth came out. Well,
there may be more information missmit information because there's more
information around, But I don't think yes to misinformation is
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to try to shut things down. Now. TikTok is a
different situation from my perspective.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
TikTok is I don't even know why they said they
wanted to close them down, but I don't think it
was because of the misinformation. No, no, no, no, probably
for another reason.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Right, TikTok is owned by a company, a Chinese company
which functions functions if no under the control, under the
influence of China because any company in China, and the argument,
and by the way, there was bipartisan support. They were both.
Donald Trump now apparently has flipped on that and is
(04:15):
not in favor of shutting TikTok down. The Biden administration
has said, either shut it down or sell it to
a US company, And that's where the rub is right now.
And the concern was that China, with all of the
technical abilities that now exist that didn't exist ten years
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ago or thirty years ago or fifty years ago, is
able to call all sorts of information from TikTok uses,
many of whom are young kids, and that so that's
the concern with them in terms of the misinformation that
meta not just TikTok.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
It is because the TikTok reels are on YouTube, they're
on book, people are sharing them everywhere, and there's tons
of misinformation that is, you know, spewed and it's just
really brainwashing people, and no one the hell knows.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
What's what are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
My question to you, here's my question to you, Timmy,
what do you propose be done?
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Well? The only thing I can think of is to
make sure that they're not saying things that are that
are negative over and over and being shared over and over.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
How I understand your hope and aspiration?
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Well, I mean, if I have to be responsible for
the work that walks out of my door when I'm working,
why don't these people who who are putting it on
their platform, why aren't they responsible for making sure it's.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Who's going to lose all information? You? I don't know
what sort of work you do, but I'm sure you're
good at it, and I'm sure that when there is
a mistake that you make, and maybe you don't make
mistakes that your boss or your supervisor. Right, of course
we do, of course we do. But what I'm saying
is you work. You work for a private company. Yes, okay,
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so that company, in order to stay in business, wants
to make sure that it complies with rules and regulations
and and and builds people properly and all that. So,
so you report to the rules with.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
This information thing. But I don't know, I mean, this
is what.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Are you going to, Who's going to who's going to
shut these companies down? Who's going to control the companies?
Are you going to go in and send the military
in to take over the companies and say you're out
of business.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
I mean, it's like, if you think about it, we
need to start talking about the fact that there are
a lot of lies. Why is our whole society, you know,
why are they building everything they think and feel onlines?
Why are they being brainwashed? This is like a thickness
that's happening now, It's like an addiction. We'll be tryphone
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in the tweet.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
We tried to We try to do that here. The
question what I'm trying to say is back in the
old days, I mean, like a hundred years ago, there
were competitive newspapers in these in America. There was no TikTok,
there was no matter, you know that. So you had
in New York City you probably had twenty newspapers. You
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had yellow journalism. You had in the eighteen hundreds in
this country, I mean horrific, horrific newspapers that we peddled
in the street. Now, I will admit to you that
the newspapers that were peddled in the eighteen hundreds and
in the nineteen twenties and the nineteen forties were not
as powerful and as far reaching as the electronic devices
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we have today. But we do not believe in the
government interfering with it information. If I get on the
radio tour night and I say, look, as far as
I'm concerned, the sun no longer rises in the east.
The sun rises in the west and it sets in
the east. People are going to call up and correct me,
(08:15):
and you're gonna say, what are you talking about, Dan?
I mean, come on. Or if I want to say
a president Obama is now president of the No, he's
not anymore. He served two terms. We do this all
the time on Nightside. But I'm just saying I understand
the problem you're lamenting, trust me, But I don't know
the solution.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, I don't either. So anyone else there who has ideas.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Let's say, maybe someone to call, Hey, Tammy, I loved
your call. You challenging, and I really enjoyed it. And
I hope you continue to listen to Nightside. We try
to do that here all the time. We really do. Uh,
It's what I pride myself on it. And by the way,
also remember you always have to separate fact from opinion.
(09:03):
If I say to you Joe Biden was the greatest
president in the history of the United States, that is
an opinion. If I say to you the sun rises
in the west. That's a fact that's wrong. Okay, So
just look at it like that, and I think we'll survive.
I'm an optimist, I really do. But as long as
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people like you continue to call this program and have
these conversations, do you know how many people you reached
in this conversation, how many people are now thinking as
a result of the issues you raised. That's what's what's
the magic of this program and what is the magic
of radio. There are people all over the country tonight
who heard what you had to say, Tammy. They never
met you, they're never going to meet you, but you
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made them think tonight, and you made me think tonight.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And I thank you, Oh, thank you for being there.
Thank you, Thanks much.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Talk soon, okay, Love, if you would like to make
a difference six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty, seven, nine, three, one, ten,
thirty the topics that he handed Joe Biden's farewell speech,
and also the remarkable achievement that Israel has accomplished in
the last sixteen months, going from being flat on its
(10:14):
back tonight to potentially being able to help restore much
democracy and peace to the Middle East. My next caller
is amongst my best callers. Laurie. We'll be back with
her right after this short break.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ the News Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Let's check in with Laurie and Idaho. Laurie, welcome back,
Thank you so much for joining us tonight. What you
think of the president's farewell speech?
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Well, you know, I heard the sound bites all day
and I decided my time this evening is probably better
spent in a long, warm shower. So that's what I did.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Probably good. He spock for nineteen minutes. There was no
earth chattering line or it wasn't like Dwight Eisenhower saying
beware of the industrial uh military complex or anything like
that that I could hear of.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I don't want to hear hers this history, like how
he's he did so much to be wonderful things for
four years when really I didn't need to hear that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So yeah, I got the whole with him. He never
mentioned the pullout from Afghanistan. That's one thing that was
never mentioned.
Speaker 6 (11:32):
He talked about.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah. Well, yeah, he did compliment the Vice president twice
and her her historical.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Well, he ruined her career might as well.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I don't. I keep saying every every time I still
see Jill Biden near near Vice President Harris, it's it's
kind of a chill goes down my spine.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Yeah, not warm.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
And fuzzy woman, fuzzy. A lot of a lot of
news has come out. Michelle Obama to the surprise of no,
one is not going to attend the presidential inauguration of
Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Yeah, yeah, what they want?
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I mean, yeah, no, absolutely, President Obama apparently will former
President Obama will. I think it's.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Gonna be in the spotlight.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
What's that? Oh yeah, okay, Yeah. He seemed to enjoy
his conversations with President Trump. Uh, you know, President elect
Trump still also President Trump. The other day at the
Carter before the Carter funeral, they were very you know.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Yeah, he's still personable and charming when he wants to be.
I don't love his politics, but he's you know, it
could be worse.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
It's going to be interesting. I know that Donald Trump
and Millennia Trump will drive to the White House on
Monday morning and they'll have coffee or tea or whatever
they have inside the White House, And you'd love to
be a fly.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
On the wall.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Wouldn't you.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I you bet there's nothing worth listening to. It's gonna
be all just lighthearted.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well yeah, and then and then they'll they'll ride down
down Pennsylvania or up Pennsylvania Avenue to the to the Capitol.
And I don't think President Biden will stick around for
the inauguration. I think that he and and no, no, no, no,
I don't think so. I think they will walk out
and you know, you know, they will do what they
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have to do, which is uh be there for for
the moments, and then once they go inside, they will
go their way. And President Trump and moment, Yeah, that
makes sense there. Uh. Were you surprised at the ceasefire
today in the Middle East?
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Well, yes, and no, I will first of all, let
me just say that I think everybody runs scared of
having to deal with Trump, and you know, it's just
for me, it's cautiously optimistic. I will believe it when
I see it. When you know, the first one of
the US hostages crosses back into our country. And it
sounds good, but you've got Nawa saying, well, I haven't
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agreed to everything yet, but if we can come.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
It down, so it has to go through his Military
Council and all that. They have their procedures to go through,
but it sounds to me. I spoke yesterday privately with
the new consul general here in Boston, and they were
cautiously optimistic. And we will probably have the new console
Israeli console general on with us sometime next week. When
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that's good.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
No, it's a very good step. I just am cautious.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Yeah. Well, I'll tell you this, when you think about
all the things that the Israeli, I mean, the israel
was flat on its back on October seventh, and they
have somehow come back and destroyed Hespela, that have destroyed
the leadership of Hespela, the leadership of Hamas aside.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Because they didn't listen to the world telling them not to.
They said, darn you, this is our country. We're doing this.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yes, yes, And I learned today from somebody who's a
lot smarter than I am. When they got the head
of Hesbalah. Here's I'm telling this. I'm not telling my
source on it. But he was in a building in Beirut,
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five floors underground. Somehow, some way, the Israelis knew exactly
where he.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Was and exactly when he was going to be there.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
There were three Israeli planes, as I understand it, who
hit that building with a you know, a very big bomb,
three separate wow, three bombs within a period It was
coordinated within a period of eight seconds. So once the
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first one hit, the guy who was the head of wow. Yeah,
and when you at night, right, and you also think
about what they did with the uh, the the exploding
walkie talkies, and I love that, the exploding cell phones.
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And I'm told today they went with the exploding cell phone,
with the exploding cell phones first, because they knew that's
what the leadership had for communication. And they waited a
couple of days to do the walkie talkies because they
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knew that the walkie talkies would then, which were in
a warehouse, would be distributed once the cell phones were
taken out.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Brilliant, delightfully brilliant.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
Yes, Yes, A whole lot of.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
Respect for Nan and his idea for they were my man,
don't don't make that angry.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Tell you. I think Netanyahoo has been church Chilean here
in terms of what his leadership has meant to his country.
He's he is to Israel what Churchill was to England
at the height of the German Blitzkrieg, you know, bottom
of London, when when London, when London stood alone before
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we got involved. I'm talking nineteen forty, in nineteen forty now,
before we got involved.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
So amazing credit for all of that. I know he
has his detractors, but man, he's a strong leader.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Strong leader and did the right things. And at every
turn some in our country were trying to hold him back.
But he did it ons you know, to coin a
phrase from Frank Sinatra, he did it his way and
guess what it has worked out fabulously. Well. There were
hostages lost, no question, but once they were taken, it
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was that was out of his control and the exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
And there is always going to be collateral damage. But
do you have to do something at that point otherwise
you'd lose your nation?
Speaker 2 (18:12):
So no question, no question.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I get to give him a grade.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Yeah, oh yeah, I kind of get a sense of it,
but I want to make it official.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Go ahead, I'm just going to say, I give the
Biden administration and f with the understanding that he didn't
earn it all by himself.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yep, I think that's fair. Okay, the administration gets an
F It's as simple as that. Laurie, Thank you so much.
Always great to hear your voice. I love it.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Good night, You're welcome. We're coming right back. We're talking
about Israel, We're talking about a ceasefire. We're also talking
about the president's farewell speech tonight. Feel free to join
the conversation. Six one seven, two five four to ten
thirty or nine three one six one seven, nine three
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Speaker 1 (19:09):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Let's get back to the calls. Who's been on the
Rachel and Quincy Rachel. You're next on Nightside.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Go right ahead, Hi, Dan, how are you?
Speaker 2 (19:27):
Uh? Rachel?
Speaker 3 (19:30):
I'm doing okay, Yeah, I got a lot going on,
but I'm I have no idea what TikTok is. I'm
sixty one years old, so I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Yeah, all it is. I can tell you what it is.
It's it's it's like it's similar to Facebook or to
or to Twitter or to x or whatever you want
to call it, and all all it is. It's it's electronic, uh,
and people get on there and they upload videos, U
(20:09):
upload videos doing dumb things, sometimes doing humorous things other times.
And it's a company that is out of China that
is running it, and that scares the the government, and
both Republicans and Democrats want it to be sold by
(20:31):
this Chinese company to an American company or they're gonna
shut it down. They I guess have the ability to
shut it down. So yeah, I mean, it's they're all
kind of the same Instagram. They're just the different different
methods to deliver information, correct information or incorrect information.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
But I actually kind of agree with, okay with you know,
like to shut it down.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
Does obvious be.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
A reason why they want to shut it down?
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Well, the reason why they believe is that the Chinese
government is gleaning information from America's young people about their
personal lives, and that you know, some are suggesting that
ten fifteen, twenty years from now, information about someone who
did something stupid at the age of fifteen, if they're
(21:32):
in a position of authority somewhere. They could be black mail.
I mean, that's that's the theory as I understand it.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Okay, and I get it, and you know what I
get it. It's social media. Like I said, I'm sixty
one years old, not really confused, but confused. I'm like,
you don't know what's real, you do not know what's sake.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
I just have.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
One thing to say. Yep, the new president coming in,
jess give him a chance to bring back what he
sort of did years ago. And if it doesn't work,
(22:22):
then obviously it doesn't work, but he'll get a chance.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I think he's going to get more of a chance
this time did last time. To be really honest with you,
I think that the twenty sixteen election was an anomaly
in many respects, and I think there were a lot
of people I can remember they were. There were pretty
big demonstrations anti Trump demonstrations the day of the inauguration. Obviously,
(22:48):
the January sixth riot back in twenty twenty one was
absolutely inappropriate, and hopefully that never happens again, you know,
I mean, let's give him a chance. Let's just as
we should have rooted for Joe Biden's success. Everybody should
roote for Donald Trump's success and hopefully that he turns
(23:09):
out to be a better president than maybe some people expect.
That's all. We only have one president at a time,
whether you like him or not, whether you voted for
him or not.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You're right again. I agree with you that whole January thing. Whatever,
I completely agree with you. We're at the punch at,
you know, with our country. It's scary. It is absolutely scary.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'm scared. I'm not scared right now. I think that
the slate gets wiped clean. Let's see what happens with
his nominees. I think there was something happened today in
the Middle East, which is a good thing. The stock
market had a good day.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I'm a Trump sient. What I am is you know what.
I manage the company and I'm tough. I do not
care if you like me and if you don't, but
my company is successful, and.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
You sound very trumpy and Rachel.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I know, thank you, Dan, but I'm on. I'm petrified,
and I know what.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
What are you petrified of? And why are you petrified?
I don't understand that your candidates, right, I.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Don't know, but I don't know if I ever told you,
but when they staid the whole immigrant whatever sing, somebody
try to break into my house during the day. And
(24:56):
I was never one of the ones on the news
because I was so afraid. I wouldn't go to court.
I wouldn't do anything. But he had an arms whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Yeah, okay, well, Rachel, I don't want to have you
relived that on the air tonight. I can understand it's
something that you know. I once. I once had my
car broken into, many many, many many years ago. I
actually heard the car being broken into, looked out the
window from my condo in Boston, and I wanted to
if I had a gun, I think I would have
shot the guy. If I had I had a plant
(25:32):
and I wanted to throw it down on him. Uh
And of course he ran away. There was a guy
there who had a getaway car. They were trying to
steal my car. It didn't work. I was able to
interrupt it. But you feel violated, Rachel. I gotta keep
rolling here. Let's be off to the.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
I was I was home.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Yeah, no, I went, No, you don't. I don't want
to have you relived that in the UK again on
your house locks in your house, get a camera if
you have.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I know, I know, I know, But anyways, you know
how much I love you.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Dan.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Right back at you, Rachel, I thank you very much,
and I thank you for your loyalty to this program.
And let's hope for the best. Let's you know, there's
a new uh, a new administration comes into power on Monday,
and let's hope that they do the best for the country.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Fair enough, yes, sir, and let it play out. Just
let it play out.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
All right? Thanks, Thanks Rachel, talk to you soon. Let
me go to John and Debt. John, you were next
to the night side. Welcome.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Hey, Dan.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
I don't know where to start, but let's try what
Biden speaks there. The one word that always gets me
now with with Biden the Democrats is when they start
talking about democracy. And I think, if you're Biden, Harris Shumer, Obama,
you don't get to even the main street media. You
don't get to see somebody else's a threat to democracy
after what you guys in bold. So this is this
(26:57):
election and the last two elections, because you guys have
done everything before go by democracy. So that that's the
most frustrating thing I hear and keep saying they want
to say Trump is a thread of democracy. It just
blows my mind that nobody's calling them out on it.
That you can't say that anymore. You screwed it up
and going with a TikTok thing. I don't know if
(27:20):
this is a great analogy. Do you remember these newspapers,
The Star, National Inquirer. Sure you remember those?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
You remember I talked, I talked to every hour about
the yellow journalism of the nineteenth century and the early
twentieth century. I mean there were newspapers that were I mean,
he was wild.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
They I don't know if it's the dumbing town of America.
I think people were more suspicious about what they were
about their news where they got here from Now it's
it's scary that a lot of the younger generation not
just sound like an old man. They get their news
from TikTok or or maybe not TikTok but social media.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Someone else, someone else said that if that's the only
thing you're watching all day, that's what you think about.
But guess what people have to grow up? If I
would hope that the vest men. Look, we just ran
an election. There were what one hundred and fifty one
hundred and sixty million Americans who participated and voted. I
(28:18):
think that's a good thing, you.
Speaker 6 (28:20):
Know, as long as that's the other as long as
we have the fact. And that's that's most frustrating the
media because I was looked at the media to be
our watchdogs, and when we don't get all the facts
because you're buying the media is buy us on both sides.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It's just so hard we say, hold on for a second,
Wait a second. Do you look You sound to me
like a guy that watches Fox. Probably right, Oh, I'll.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Actually I watch on networks because I always believe there's
two sides.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Story good, great, that's well, that's perfect. That's exactly what
everybody should do. But what I'm saying is you probably
are most comfortable with the Fox. And you know, look,
I think I think Fox presents a point of view.
There's a lot of facts that they present. There's also
you have to be able to say, Okay, that's a viewpoint,
that's a set of facts. CNN does the same thing.
MSNBC is I think wildly out there, ABC, NBC and CBS.
(29:13):
I think they're going to toe the line a little
bit more. I mean, I think that that Trump was
right that some of the debate fact checking was unfair.
Certainly the ABC debate with David Muir and Lindsey Davis.
I think that he was corrected five times and a
couple of times the fact checkers were wrong. You know, look,
(29:34):
let's I just want people to be a little more optimistic.
And this the transition here. How would you compare the
transition in this presidency to four years ago? Which one
would you Which one are you happier about?
Speaker 6 (29:51):
Well? This is this one, yes, and so so.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
Therefore, the Democrats were in power, they didn't rig the election.
I know that they were allegations, but if they were
ever going to have the power to rig the election,
you would think that they would read the election when
they were in power. The election went off, it's done,
and Donald Trump will be president to come Monday at
(30:16):
noontime the pipe.
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Though, I think Democrats did try to rig the election.
I think the administration, the Biden administration was that bad.
There was nothing. When you have media covering up for parties,
that's trying to rig the election. No, it doesn't mean now,
I'll say this. In twenty twenty, Biden got more votes
to Trump no doubt about that. The question is what
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was that based on? And I think you know, and
I know you're gott to wrap it up, but when
you talk about TikTok and stuff, I don't know if
this is possible no matter what the social media platform is.
Maybe you need to discline. What isn't it like some
law of the newspapers have to follow something one thirty
eight where you know about you know, publishing fake information.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
No, no, no, no, newspapers have. Newspapers have complete protection
the First Amendment. Now, can they be sued by if
they libel someone? Yes, but they no one's going to
be out there exercising prior restraint and saying, oh, you
can't publish that. No, no, no, no, no. That's what's
great about the First Amendment. If they screw up, they
pay some money. Look at George Stephanopolis and ABC just
(31:23):
had to pay Donald Trump a whole bunch of money
because Stephanopolis insisted on saying that Trump had committed rape
when he had not.
Speaker 6 (31:31):
And he's still on the air.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Well that's a whole different story. Now, Don Lemon isn't anymore,
is he. Let's see, let's see who survives. So you have.
Speaker 6 (31:41):
Maybe what they need to do is put like whether
it's TikTok x so twitter, whatever you want to call it.
These days, they need to put a disclaimer on hit
me videos and uh information not uh fact or proven
or something.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I would worry about it. I wouldn't worry about it.
I think that that we have so many sources of
Look what you're doing tonight. What I've had four outstanding
calls here, Tammy, Tammy, Laurie, Rachel and you had had
two good calls last hour, Paul and Joe. I just
I really believe what I'm doing is important, or I
(32:14):
wouldn't be doing it, trust me, Okay, And I hope
wish more people would listen to this show and listen
to different viewpoints and come away with their own conclusions.
I am not going to tell you that the sky
is falling when the sky isn't falling. It's as simple
as that. John. I hate to do this, but you've
been a great caller. Please continue to call this program.
I need quality phone calls. Thank you, Thank ye, that
(32:37):
great one. We'll take a break, coming right back. Who's
up next? We got Miller and Lawrence and I bet
he's a first time caller, coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the window World
Nightside Studios. I'm WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Next up Miller from Lawrence Miller. I don't ever recall
someone named Miller calling on the program. How are you tonight?
Speaker 8 (33:00):
God knowing that.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
First time? Are you are your first time calling? Mill?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Or?
Speaker 4 (33:05):
No?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yes, I ad the round of a ball and welcome,
Welcome the nights. I go right ahead, looking forward to
hearing what you have to say.
Speaker 6 (33:15):
I shouldn't have bought as much in pay share.
Speaker 8 (33:18):
I think you said it twice?
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Did Uh?
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, there's uh another Well another caller made that very
point last hour, and I understand what you're saying, and
that's okay, No, that's that's The phrase fair share is
always kind of interesting to me. It's like, who determines
how much as a fair share? I mean, obviously it's
a political question, but it's one thing to say, well
(33:46):
you should pay What does that mean?
Speaker 6 (33:48):
That's a thing.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, yeah, it's a totally different thing, but but what
is it? It's easy to say, well, you know, I'm
paying my fair share, but you're not paying your fish share.
How do you know what I'm paying you know that
sort of thing.
Speaker 8 (34:01):
I mean, I know the hun was indicted because he
didn't pay his first fear.
Speaker 6 (34:09):
He had a friend he had.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Right, but he had a friend then a friend who
out of the goodness of his heart, paid off his
one point four million dollars. I wonder if that had
any relationship to the fact that Hunter was the son
of the President of the United States. We might have maybe,
I don't know. And then then his dad pardoned him
(34:36):
the dad partnered. I mean, there's there's people sitting on
it in jails in this country every day of the week.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
And as someone who worked on behalf of an individual
who was framed by the FBI and actually won millions
of dollars about twenty years ago, do you I don't
know that that that Joe Schmoe committee the same crime
as Hunter Biden never would have got a pardon from
Joe Biden. I kind of think not.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Let me tell you real quick, how about today his
lawyer's basement in Palisades Park that burnt down and his
home there were two hundred paintings by Hunter, your kid's
lawyer's basement in Palisades Park. They are claiming Hunter and Hey,
over two hundred paintings stored. They're worth millions.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Oh absolutely, Oh my goodness, how about that. That's all
got a break? Maybe maybe they were remembering qualities?
Speaker 6 (35:42):
Oh man, absolutely what yeah?
Speaker 8 (35:45):
I mean talk about the Biden Biden crime family. They're
good man, they don't miss some opportunity.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Well yeah, that's that's yeah. Even even out of the
horror of that that infruno comes some good news. So
there is there is a god after all. Miller, I
love your show, I love your cogments. Thank you so much.
Please continue to call the program. I liked it. Thank you. Night,
(36:14):
good night. Let me go to Joe and Cambridge. Joe,
want to get you in here before the news go
right ahead, joke.
Speaker 5 (36:19):
Hi Dan, great topics tonight as usual. So first of all,
is there is there a grade lower than an F minus?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Well you can, you can invent one, but if you could,
you could give a gentleman's F minus.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Well, listen, if there is one out there, multiply that
time's infinity. That's what I give Joe Biden. I can't wait.
January twentieth can't come fast enough. You know, there's no
redeeming quality whatsoever that that I can think of for
that man and that last caller I think put a
fine point on it. The Biden crime family. I hope
(37:00):
to some day they're investigated and and a lot of
this you know, their their their you know, crimes come
out and you know, and so on.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
But yeah, and I think that there might be some
more pardons coming out for members of And again the
reason that they will come out is because the threat
that that perceived threat that Donald Trump was going to
go after them. I think that would be a huge
mistake if Trump goes after anybody. I hope that his
his his his administration, his time in office is work,
(37:32):
work for the good of the American people. Show and
what type of president he could be?
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Go ahead, Yeah, and I think sorry, yeah, and I
think he will.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
I think he will in my opinion. And again in
my opinion, I think, you know, Biden will go down
as the worst president in history. And I'm not the
only one saying that, but again that's my opinion. So again,
I don't think is the worst.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
He's not. He's not gonna be a He's not Harry Truman.
Let me put it like that.
Speaker 5 (37:55):
You far from but as far as it now, who
in the whole today's announcements. Hats off credit to Israel
on that. I agree with you one hundred percent. Uh,
I agreed one hundred percent with everything they did that
entire eighteen months since they were originally attacked. Kudos to
them again, going back to the Biden administration and the
(38:18):
Democrats criticizing him all that time when they were initially
going in and they're more you know, their their support
for Hamas more than it was for Israel. And kudos
to President Trump who's stood by Israel. And I think
that in addition to Nyetnaho and into Israel, I do
believe that that President elect Trump does deserve some credit
(38:40):
because amazing how all of a sudden now these negotiations,
there's all these breakthroughs, you know, a week before he's
due to come into office, don't I don't find that
coincidental at all?
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Agree? And I think example, because if Hamas had said, hey,
you know, then then what do you do? I mean
if you get into office. I mean I think that
it was a it was a bit of a gamble
for him to stake out that position. He was out
on a limb. Joe, I hate to do this year
but my producers in my ear, you made great points,
and you did it quickly. I got a run. We
(39:10):
will talk many times, many times sometime next time. Thanks Joe.
Thanks you're on the line, stay there if you're not.
Six one, seven, two, five four ten thirty six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. We got a lot to
talk about, and we got two hours left to do it.
Let's have at it, coming back after after the ten
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