January 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Gary Tanguay Fills In On NightSide with Dan Rea
Actress Blake Lively filed a lawsuit against fellow actor Justin Baldoni for alleged sexual harassment on the set of “It Ends With Us.” Shortly after, Baldoni countersued Lively and husband Ryan Reynolds for defamation and extortion, claiming the couple “destroyed his reputation with false allegations of sexual harassment.” Entertainment reporter Cooper Lawrence joined Gary to discuss the ongoing feud!
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Actress Blake Lively filed a lawsuit against fellow actor Justin Baldoni for alleged sexual harassment on the set of “It Ends With Us.” Shortly after, Baldoni countersued Lively and husband Ryan Reynolds for defamation and extortion, claiming the couple “destroyed his reputation with false allegations of sexual harassment.” Entertainment reporter Cooper Lawrence joined Gary to discuss the ongoing feud!
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's n side with I w BSS radio. Stop stop
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stop stop. That is from it ends with us. Uh
what a film? What a movie with Blake Lively and
Justin Baldini and it's this whole situation is so disturbing
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because as far as a film goes, which compared to
the to the topic at hand here that you know,
the film is is secondary. Right now, I think it's
a terrific film. I think it's well done. I think
it's realistic. I think it has a great message at
the end. But with what has transpired and the ugliness
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that has been revealed in this is just so disturbing.
It's not surprising, but it's still disturbing. And joining me
right now is our good friend from New York City
and CBS entertainment reporter Cooper, Lawrence Cooper.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Of course, I'm always here for you, you know, especially when
you talking about my favorite topics.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, I know, and I am going to get to this,
but here's a big market Seese. Cooper was on the
set of this film, which we will get to. Can
you just update us right now as best you can
on where things stand because I think it's been getting
a little confusing on who started, what went, and where.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay, I will give you the very quick timeline to
understand what happened on set. Justin Beldoni and his I
guess directing partner is a production partner. Producing partner, Thank
you very much, were inappropriate with Blake Lively. She felt
very uncomfortable, and she had asked them for two things.
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She asked for independent producers so that she didn't have
to deal with them directly, and she asked for an
intimacy coach because she felt that some of the things
that he was doing on set were deliberately misogynistic and
deliberately targeting her. She felt she felt unsafe on that set,
so she asked on set privately. She didn't make news
(02:37):
about it, she didn't call a publicist. She literally just
said it to them and that was that. Then the
movie came out and it wasn't really getting great reviews,
and because they had a tumultuous relationship on set, they
didn't really do a lot of press together, and he
felt that somehow she was sabotaging the film, and he
claims that she was basically tanking the film. He then
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proactively said, well, she's going to ruin her reputation. He
hired his own PR firm to basically go after her,
and these texts that were revealed to New York Times
basically said it was his PR from talking to each
other saying that we're going to bury Blake Lively. So
as a result, she wasn't gonna saything this entire time,
but now that this came out, then she realized she
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had to sue him, so she did. Now he's countersued
for four hundred million dollars, which I don't know how
he thinks he's ever going to be worth that, but fine,
that's the number he chose. So he's countersuing Blake Lively,
Ryan Reynolds and Leslie Sloane, the person who is in
charge of their PR. And that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, thank you for setting that straight, because I've had
discussions with people, and as I remember it, he started
this publicly. Now that's not to say she didn't have
cause to come out and say so, because I believe
she did. Because Blake Lively has been in this business
for a long time. My daughter, a teenager, has discovered
(04:09):
gossip Girl on Netflix. It's on all the time. So
Blake Lively is a veteran actor, she knows the deal.
She has been on sets, she has seen a lot,
She's experienced a lot, and automatically I thought, okay, when
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she came out to defend herself, I said, there's something
got to be going on because she has never done this.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
There's no history of.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
He drew first blood. You're correct, that's.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right, which to me, which when you say, look, you
drew first like, I go, the guy was paranoid. So
I feel as I analyze this, Folks, again, I'm not
playing journalists here, I'm playing talk show hosts. I analyzed
this is he knew he did something wrong. He knew
he did something wrong, so he tried to get ahead
of it and it came back to bite him.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
In the ass.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Right, That's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Crazy Right now, let's talk about the things that happened
on set and see if there's any I'm going to
play devil's advocate, Folks. I believe Blake Lively. I'm on
her side. I'm doing this to make an argument. The
argument that he says he was trying to create an
atmosphere for the condition of the film, method acting and
so forth. I mean showing her pornography on his phone
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that has no business being on a set, but making
her uncomfortable, creating tension. Is there any substance to that.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I'm going to tell you one yes, because I was
on set and I was there for one of the
scenes where he kept trying to kiss her, but like,
really just go for it at a at a point
in the film that it would not really have made sense,
and you can see how uncomfortable she was. In fact,
while I was standing there on set, I was watching her,
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and I was thinking, you know, usually when two actors
are working together, they kind of, you know, back and forth,
chat figure something out. I know he was also the director,
so even more reason why they would chat. They had
nothing to do with each other. She was on her
phone talking to her I'm going to say, kids, I
was talking to people, maybe Taylor Swift, I don't know
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who she was talking to, but she was on her phone.
And as soon as they said action, she handed her
phone to an assistant and then got on set and
then did her thing. And you can see she was
very uncomfortable, and I was thinking, well, the story that
we had been told was that this film was supposed
to be done and in the can before the actor strike,
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but because the strike happened, it delayed their shooting. So
now they're shooting months later. They're getting it done. And
she wanted to be with Ryan, she wanted to be
with her kids. She didn't want to be on set.
Maybe that's why, Maybe that's why this whole thing is
weird and uncomfortab. Maybe she just didn't really want to
work right now, wants to be with her kids. And
I thought it was odd. But then there was the
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scene where he was trying to kiss her, and you
can see as people, not as actors. There was something
going on that just looked she looked uncomfortable, and I
had no idea. Thought, maybe they don't get who knows.
I can speculate all I want to. I did not
know what was happening, but I just knew something odd
was happening. And I remember going home and telling my boyfriend, like,
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this was a weird day on set. It was not
like a normal day I would normally have. And then
the whole story came out. Oh, yes that's what we
were seeing. Now it all makes sense. But you know actors,
especially famous actors, when they are on set and there's
all these people around them and they know they're being watched,
they're on their best behavior. So if there is something off,
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it's very evident because they behave in a way that
is definitely different. And that's what was going on that day.
And now it makes perfect sense that at that point,
it was towards the end of the shooting schedule, they
were almost done, and when they got done with the scene,
she turned him and said, can I go now, which
I thought was very interesting. I'd never usually asked, oh,
(08:14):
are we done? Okay, cool, we're cut, Okay, I see
you later. It's never can we Can I go now?
And I remember thinking, wow, that's that's very unusual. And
I don't know why she said that, because she was
just so you know, she was lovely to everybody. She
was so sweet and so kind, So I wasn't thinking, well,
she's just you know, the B word, that's where it
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must be. No, she was absolutely lovely, but with him,
she wasn't. And I didn't know whether it was part
of the scene, if it was method acting, but now
I know it was because he was making her uncomfortable.
And he created a hostile work environment, and she was
quiet about it. She didn't say anything to anybody. But
you're right. Once the film was done and she went
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off off, you know, in her world and did Lady
Deadpool had had more things to do beyond that. I
think he tried to get ahead of it because he
was afraid that she was going to tank him in Hollywood,
and sure enough, you know, his agent dropped him. They
have the same agent. If I was the agent, who
would you keep Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds some guy
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that no one knows who he is.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, it's not even close. But I remember the TV
series Castle with Nathan Fillion, and.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I forgot them more. Yeah, I forgot the way.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'd loved She was terrific actor, but I forgot the
woman's name who played But they did not get along.
They could not stand each other on set, but they
made it work on the show.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
So there are examples.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, we could go back to All in the Family,
you know, where Jean Stable did and Carol O'Connor did
not get along, But it wasn't like this.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
They just didn't see eye to eye.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
So there are instances where you could be on the
set where the leading man in and the leading lady
just don't get along, but when they say action, they
do their job.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
You and I could sit here and spend an hour
coming up with examples of people who famously hated each other,
but yet we're professional and did their jobs, and as viewers,
we would never know that there was no relationship there.
This is different. This is a hostile work environment that
he created and really didn't do anything to make it
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okay for her because the fact that even towards the
end of the shooting schedule that she was still feeling
uncomfortable like that. It just I have to tell you
my feeling about him on set. Somebody else said to
me while we were there, He's really a bully, isn't he?
And I hadn't observed him long enough. But this is
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somebody that had been on set longer than I had.
They were there for a couple of weeks, and they
said he's a bully is the word they used. So
I just took their word for I was like, well,
maybe that's why you left. I had no idea. But
now that the story has unfolded, you know, it's kind
of the end of usual suspects where you're like, what's
going on? Then suddenly you look around the room and go,
oh oh oh, it all makes.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Sense right right, and you drop them up where we're
at and you drop them all geting crashes on the floor,
and you go. Of course, Cooper Lawrence is our guest
CBS Entertainment reporter. We got a lot more to uncovered
regarding it ends with us right here on WBC's Nightside.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Back after this, now back to Dan ray Mine from
the Window World night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Man stop, please stop, please stop stop.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Look at me, look at me, look at me, look.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You look at me, Look at I love you baby,
look at me, please please.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That is from this is us. The audio is creepier
than the video.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, it really is it really.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I just was. I'm listening to this, I go, it's
worse a horror film, Oh my god, which I mean,
unfortunately for Blake Lively it was.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
But always we're talking about the situation between Blake Lively
and jessin Boldona here when Cooper Lawrence joining a CBS
Entertainment reporter, and I mean he's just a think you know,
the guys that think, and but when you listen to
that or you watch that scene. Her acting ability to
put all of this aside and deliver that performance is amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
She's a professional, She's doing her job. I mean, people
don't know that. You know, you and I really we
have a long history of fighting and suiting. But look
at us.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You never know, right yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, you kick
my ass.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
No, but that's true. No, no, no, but I mean
to just go that deep and then get it done.
And then they go cut and she goes jerk and
you know, leaves. But this is what the sick part
of this as we take a look at this Baldona character.
He writes a movie or co wrote a movie and
directs a movie about domestic violence, sexual assault, and then
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he commits it while he's making it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
How sick is that?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah? And the sickest part about it is that the
script had a lot of problems. So he had asked
Ryan Reynolds, who was a producer on the film, to
doctor the script. And all these text messages went back
and forth where Valdoni comes over and he's with Blake
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Lively and Ryan Reynolds and Kayla Swift happened to have
been there and they were just sort of going over
the script and discussing it together, and he sends this message,
Oh what that was just such a wonderful session. You guys,
are you really punched up the script? It's so perfect now.
And now he claims that he felt pressured to say
that because of their star power, which doesn't make any
(14:08):
sense because if you read the text, they come across
very genuine like in retrospect, you could say anything depending
on how you feel about somebody. But in the moment,
he was obviously very grateful because the script did have problems.
You know, it's based on a book, and you should
definitely read the book because it's better than the movie
in my opinion. But it's interesting that, you know, they
(14:29):
gave him a lot of creative control. And I think
sometimes in Hollywood. Here's an example of how the level
of narcissism is just off the charts in Hollywood. So
justin Baldoni, the news comes out today that he is
counter sewing her for four hundred million dollars. I would,
if I were him, put that out there and then
go home and just kind of hide from the paparazzi
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and just give it a minute. Not him he went to.
He was at LAX with his family because he knows
that's what the paparazzis are when you when you're very famous,
when you're that famous, you don't go to the IVY,
you don't go to LAX. You know how to avoid DMZ.
But not him. He couldn't wait to get on TMZ
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and he didn't say no comment. He was on camera
telling him all about how you know he's going to
survive this because of his family and they have such faith,
they have faith. It just all comes across like a play.
It doesn't come across genuine and I don't know that.
I think sometimes celebrity's narcissism gets in the way of reality.
And I think, to me that was a mistake.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
There's no doubt it does. But let's face it.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I mean, she's a star, and Blake Lively and Ryan
Reynolds have an incredible body of work and they're much
larger in the business than him. But where his sickness,
and I do believe is sick has cost him is
if he simply directed the film, was a professional and
put it out there. The film made three hundred fifty
(16:00):
one million dollars at the box office.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I don't know how much of that is attributed to
the controversy.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I'm not sure. What do you think.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I think a lot of it because the film, I think,
you know, it did really well. It's on Netflix now,
it's doing better on Netflix than it did you know,
anywhere else. Yeah, I think people are very interested to
see the chemistry between them. Can you tell a lot
of people did read the book and they were kind
of interested in seeing the book made into a movie.
But this has been going on since they started filming.
(16:34):
You know. Oh, they were seen on the street kissing.
They're filming the movie. Ah, this is so exciting. So
I think we've been following this story from the very beginning.
So whether the movie is good or not is kind
of irrelevant.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's well, if it doesn't happen, If this doesn't happen,
and the movie comes out, what do you think it does.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
If what doesn't happen, I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
If this controversy doesn't happen, If Balboni is a gentleman,
if they get along, everybody's great, they put out the movie,
what happens to the movie. How much money does it make?
Is it up for awards or does it simply just
go away.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, I think it would have bombed. I think it
would have absolutely bombed, just because nobody really knows who
he is. I mean, she has her following, what is that? Okay?
But I think you're right. I think a lot of
the success of the movie now is post all of
this information. And you know, I'm so cynical that there's
a side of me. I was like, was this the
plan all along? Do they secretly love each other? And
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this is the whole plan to get us to watch
this movie? Like that's how cynical I've become.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I said the same thing.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Of course, I go, is this a pr gimmick? I mean,
is he taking a bullet here to generate some buzz? Now?
I if you were to rate the movie in a
scale of one to ten, what would.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
You give it?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I mean, I thought she was terrific. I think the
script had some problems, maybe a six.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
See, I liked it. I liked it. I was going
to give it an eight. I liked it.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I liked the movie like because I thought, first of all,
it's a terrific message.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Secondly, I thought there was I thought it was realistic.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
In that you know, we it's always very easy, especially
for men you know or you know you talk about well,
I mean it was just a doctor in Boston, you know,
now two hundred cases of alleged sexual abuse, and we're like, god,
why do people stick around?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
How come people don't speak up? How come people don't
you know?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And this movie illustrated how hard it is, you know,
because you know where he comes across.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
He's very genuine. The guy has a history.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
He lost his brother as a result of his actions
when he was younger.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
He has that guilt.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
He's a doctor, he's an emergency you know, he's trying
to save patients. So you have this thing that, oh
my god, this guy is saving lives, right, and he's brilliant,
but he's haunted by his past. So at first you
think he's a very lovable character, and that obviously changes
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when he has these outbursts and he commits and he
hits her right where so.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And she doesn't run away, She sticks around and she says,
you know it was you know, he just got mad
once and.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
She justifies it. So I thought it was very realistic.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Then I'm giving him away the movie now, but you know,
she's you know, because she has a baby in the
marriage and she goes.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
You know, I stayed with.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
The baby he's out, which I thought was a very
realistic ending. So I thought the movie was well done,
to be honest with you, and that this guy, just
if he had done nothing, I thought, and just been
a normal human being, I.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Thought it would have worked out for him. But I
guess I'm in the minority. There, I am in the minority.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Well, you know, you get people that are really big
Colleen Hoover fans, She's the woman who wrote the book originally,
and they have such high expectations. But the problem is,
you know, a book is long, and if you if
you actually turned a book into a movie, the movie
would be six hours long. No one's going to sit
there for all that time. So you have to condense
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it and pick out the parts you think are going
to tell the story in the best way. So I
think there are these purists that are like, oh, I
wasn't that seen in the movie, or I thought that
was an important character. So I think a lot of
you get those critics as well, who are looking for
the same level of dialogue that was in the book.
So yeah, I agree with you, though I think I
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think the story this looks the story was really well written.
It's a it's a very interesting story, and listen well
acted considering what we actually know about them right now,
so right, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And it was in Boston, and I like seeing Boston.
See I like, you know, so I got sucked into it.
I mean, I admit, you know, I got something to it.
But I also think that books should be at least
six episodes in a series.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That's what I think. I think.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I think trying to do a movie off a book,
they change half the stuff anyways, half the time, the
endings change. I mean, but for some reason, as a
based on Ernest Hemingway's book, I mean, like, just show
the movie and then if you have a great novel
and a great book, you know, make it eight episodes
if you will, just like, oh, what was the Nicole
(21:28):
Kidman and Liev Schreiber on the on Martha's Vineyard.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Saw a perfect couple.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I liked it, you know, I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
YEP, I loved I don't know why they didn't get
more attention than Golden Globes. I thought they were both
terrific in it. I thought. I thought the story was unpredictable.
I loved every character, and I had no idea where
it was going. And you know, I watched so much
of this I'm always like, yeah, I see where this is. No,
it was. I'm really curious as to why it was
ignored by all the critics, why it didn't get any nomination.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I mean, Golden Globes of Tamura was big time with
the international.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Well, it always is. It's a foreign press.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
No, I understand that, but I think even with the
foreign press in the in the past, I would have
to look it up that they've been a little more
welcoming to the films within the United States.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It seemed to me they really favored the international product
this time, which it was well deserved. I mean, don't
get me wrong, but I think probably there was there
was a lot of competition on the international level.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You know this set.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
By the way, Jenny Slate Boston, we got to give
her a shout out her love Yeah, Boston.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Kids, good for her, terrific. Yeahs. So she's in if
you haven't seen it, ends with us, she is in it.
She plays the best friend. She's just terrific. She's just yeah, yeah,
she's very charming and you know, but I wonder she
knew what was going on inside the set. I don't.
I think I had heard she made some comments about it,
but I think to be smart, she and uh Hassan
(23:01):
Minaj that who is also they both stayed out of it.
They say, what are you gonna do with it?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
You know, I mean you can't, you know, what are
they gonna do? Look? Do you have time for a
little more conversation here?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I always do for you, always.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Because I want to get into TikTok a little bit too.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That that's coming up with Cooper Lawrence right here from
CBS Entertainment on WBZ. If you're on Night Side with
Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio, CBS Entertainment guru
Cooper Lawrence joining us here on WBC's Nightside. We've been
breaking down what's going on with ends it ends with us?
Before we move on, Cooper, what do you think happens?
How does this thing wrap up?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
If they're smart, they'll settle somebody. They'll settle it out
and we won't have to sit and watch them go
to court against each other. But the thing is you know,
Ryan Reynolds and and Blake Lively have the richer the
richer daddy, so I wouldn't go after them. I mean basically,
Justin Baldoni is punching up, and I think he doesn't
really understand what he's in for. So I think that
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he's going to either settle with them or walk away.
He's not going to win against them. There is no
way They're too powerful.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well he's done, right, Oh yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
He lost his agent. I don't think anybody would work
with him at this point because listen, he didn't go
after people that everybody hate, like Gwyneth Paltrow. You know,
he went after these two beloved, amazing people, Ryan Reynolds,
he's so beloved, and Blake Lively. So he does come
across like kind of an ogre in this thing, like
you know what, who doesn't love Blake Lively? So I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I agreed, So he was screwed no matter what. Yeah
to me, Like I said, look, he made the mistake
by being paranoid at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
But I think he's a narcissist and I think he
thinks that he is in the same rarefied air as
they are, and when he realized he wasn't. That's what
this is really all about. I think the level of
narcissism which is listened very common in that industry. But
I think he's he's really certifiable, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I don't know him absolutely right now. Absolutely, there's no
doubt about it. He absolutely is okay. By the way, obviously,
what's going on in Los Angeles is it's just awful.
It's just awful, terrible, Yeah, I mean, and it's throwing
the entertainment industry. People are putting on the brakes even
(25:30):
though it's weird. I talked to a a producer buddy
of mine. He says, believe it or not, dude, people
are still calling me from meetings and I'm like, wow,
that's amazing. How long What does it do to the industry?
I mean, how does this is a six months?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Is it a year? I mean, do you have any
idea whatever?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I have a Yeah. I have a friend who's a screenwriter,
and he and I had this conversation because he's in
he's in there, so I was kind of curious what
he thought. And he said, after the Sister strikes, you know,
after the writers build strike, and the actors strike, Hollywood
was really having a hard time recovering. He said, this
is really putting a nail in the coffin right now.
(26:09):
There's this is absolutely no way that they're going to
be able to continue, because it's not just the big
famous people whose houses burnt down, it's also you know,
the grips and the makeup artists and all those people
who lost everything who can't work there, who had to leave,
who have nothing. So even if you know the big
stars somehow find a way to rally, who's going to
(26:30):
hold a camera, who's going to hold the microphone, who's
going to edit? They just they've it's decimated the entire
industry right now and it's going to be a while
before it comes back. I have a couple of friends
in the industry who have literally left the country to
go do their work elsewhere because it's just it's just
been too much for them and they and it's cheaper
(26:51):
to live outside the country right now, it's certainly in
that area.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, I have the same situation that Australia had.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Win Fred who was a dual citizen here in Australia
when made TV TV shows in Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know, which is not a bad gig.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
But I'm glad you brought that up because when I've
been talking to friends as well, and I said, you know,
Hollywood is really it's it's a factory town. You have
Beverly Hills, we get it. You have the red carpet,
but like that's the one percent of the one percent.
But you and you also have working actors who you go, oh,
(27:25):
I remember that person. Ohthough I've seen that person that
you know that make a living, okay, but they're not
household names, and they have mortgages, just like the grips,
and just like the the the the the limo drivers
or the lighting people and the audio people in the
people don't understand that that it's a factory town in
(27:47):
that way.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So your point is well taken.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Well, I blame us. I think I think us, as
the news reporters, we focused, I mean you and I
I mean like collectively focused too much on celebrities. Which
celebrities lost their homes and playing their tiktoks and their instagrams,
you know, of them losing everything. And while that's really
terrible and really sad because especially for their children who've
(28:12):
lost everything, who don't have any skin in the game
other than they don't have any of their stuff anymore.
The perception for the rest of the country is, why
do I care If some multi millionaire lost their house,
they go, it's just one of their houses. They'll go
build another one. But the thing is that is a
tiny percentage. It's important to remember that the people that
lost everything are not either not in the industry, or
(28:36):
like you said, they're living paycheck to paycheck and they're
hoping to get work. So that's the majority of people there,
which is why we should donate and do whatever you
can do to help people, just the way they helped
us here in New York during nine to eleven or
the way, or during Hurricane Sandy, like you know, we
saw a lot of charity here, so I think giving
(28:59):
back now is the time time.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Absolutely, we need to remember that I'm not on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I assume you must be.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I am. Unfortunately, I hate it. I do it. Yeah,
you know, it's one of those things.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I mean, can I ask you a personal question here
on the radio? Sure, do you make any money off it?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I'm not on TikTok for money.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Okay, but no do you? But do you? I know
you're not.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
No, no, no, no, no no. I don't make money
off of any of my social media.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
For me. The thing is, there are influencers whose sole
purpose is to They're actually classes right now being given
at universities in this country that are high end universities
that are hard to get into, and their classes on
how to be an influencer, how to get those contracts,
(29:51):
how to turn what you're doing on social media into
a real business. That's very different than someone like me,
where I'm just on there to comment on entertainment, to
promote something that CBS News is doing. So it's a
it's a totally different animal for me. I don't make
any money off of any of my social media. That's
never the intention for me. But there are people that
(30:13):
that is really their soul. So someone's on there, Let's
say they're they're doing a cooking video. They're doing lots
of cooking videos, and they're doing very well. They have
two million viewers and their videos get you know, millions
and millions of hits. They have products that they're on
there promoting. They get paid by those companies to promote,
you know, Queisin art or whatever they're using, they're they're
(30:34):
going to be out the money. Those are the people
that are really going to suffer. And again not celebrities,
just some woman who you know is doing unboxing videos
with her kid. So I think it's they could go
over to YouTube, they can go elsewhere, which I think
a lot of people are doing right now. But there
are people that do make their living off of TikTok.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I read the average income as one hundred and thirty
one dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Know that that's true, I've read it. I've read that
it's much less than that. The people that make a
lot of money on TikTok. Most people make very little.
They average ten to twenty thousand dollars a year if
they're lucky to get something here and there.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
But that I don't think that makes a difference in
somebody's life.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Of course, Oh my gosh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah it does. Yeah, So where are you as far.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
As the fact that it's going away?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
You know, for me, you know, Vine went away, and
I thought that was great at the time. My Space
went away back then. You know, these these social media
sites come and go. You do get on the next
one and you move on and it's you know, I'm
sorry that you're making so much money on TikTok. Go
make money on whatever the next one is. I just
think if you if you have a brand to sell,
you can sell that brand anywhere. It doesn't have to
(31:49):
be TikTok. You can take your brand. In fact, most
of the influences were already saying to their followers, come
find me on Instagram, come find me on Snapchat. So
you know, it's only one more platform. And if it's problematic,
I think that should be a.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Concern, somebody else will step in.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Something else you'll step in, who hopefully will not be
trying to harvest data of your eleven and twelve year
olds who are on TikTok, even though they're not allowed.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
To be right right? Oh please, oh come on, forget
the age limits. Are you kidding me? I want to
know what you're watching? Do you have time for one
more segment?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
All right, thank you, Cooper, Cooper Lawrence is the best.
We're going to find out what she's watching. And that's
next year on WBZ.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Get back here with Cooper Lawrence our a buddy from
CBS News and CBS Entertainment.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
So what are you watching? What's hot out there?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Now? You got to prepare yourself for the Oscars, which
you're coming up March second, and it's only I feel
like the Oscars are only exciting if you've seen enough
of the movies.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
If you've seen nothing, then you've no interest in watching it.
So if you have Netflix, make sure you watch Amelia Perez.
That will absolutely get nominated for everything. The other big
film is going to be Nickel Boys. It's on everybody's list,
right So those are the two films that I recommend
the most. Right now. This weekend, we're watching season two
(33:24):
of Severn, which is on Apple TV Plus, and it's
that kind of crazy. If you haven't seen the first season,
you should probably start watching from the beginning so you
know what's going on. But it's kind of a wacky,
the well written show.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
We talked about it last night, and I'll tell you
what I told my buddy.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
We were talking last night about Seventh.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
The premise when you tell me that if I go
to work, I forget what happens at home, and when
I go home, I forget what happens at work. I'm
okay with that, you know. Initially, if I'm at home
and I'm not thinking of work, I'm great. And then
I'm at work and I don't have one of my
kids calling me bitching about something, I'm fantastic. I've tried
(34:08):
to get into it and I just can't get into it.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I can't. I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It's pretty out there. Yeah, it's pretty out there, but
the acting is quite good to me right now, the
best thing on television. If you don't have Peacock, it's
worth at least just grabbing it and watching it with commercials.
If you have not seen The Day of the Jackal,
that's what Eddie Redmain was nominated for.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I've heard it's really good. He's a great actor.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
My god, he's more than really good. This is this
is one of the best things I've seen on television
in a long long time. It is so well acted
and so well written. You'll recognize Charles Dance as well
from Game of Throne. There'll be a lot of actors
and he'll be like, oh, that's that guy from that thing.
So there's a lot of familiar faces. But more importantly,
it's a really well written story, and they do a
(34:53):
really good job of taking you through each episode so
that you it feels like you've watched a movie in sections.
It's really very i think, very brilliantly does well.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Peacock needs it.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, yeah, I know that they were making jokes about
it at the Golden Globes that it's you know, it's
hard to find some on Peacock, but frankly they're actually
doing good this they're doing pretty well right now. And
if you want to watch something kind of old but good,
there's another show on Peacock called Mister Mercedes that is
also quite good that I recommend. It's from twenty seventeen,
(35:25):
but again a lot of actors you'll recognize in it,
and it's a really interesting storyline.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
What's what's the premise for that?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
What's the premise of that? Is? It all starts out
with so all these people are queuing up too for
like a job fair, and you get to know some
of the people online, this woman with a baby, there's
a guy who tells his stop story and as they're
all standing there waiting, a guy in a clown mask
in a Mercedes comes and plows into them, and it's
(35:53):
a mass killing, and it's the story of them trying
to find this mister Mercedes. And as the years passed,
the cops, one of the main cops retires and it's
it's but he's not going to give up on it.
And it's got a lot of terrific actors in it.
Mary Louise Parker is in it. There's just a lot
(36:14):
of really terrific acting and it's just a really interesting story.
It becomes like it's a psychological thriller that again very
very well written. I don't know where I was in
twenty seventeen that I didn't know about it, but I'm
glad that Peacock has it now. I think it's like
three or four seasons of that.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
What did you see SNL fifty.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I'm not an SNL fan, but I love the movie.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
At the ninety minutes leading I thought they did a
great job with the movie, like The nine is leading
up to ESNL, I thought it was terrific.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I thought they did a good job.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, I saw some pieces of it. I saw some
of the interviews of it. I'm just you know, I
don't know why it never resonated with me, but it never.
It just never really did not. I don't know what
it is about it.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Well, here's the reality of SNL is that the legend
is better than the show, right because it's.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Hard to do.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I mean, to do ninety minutes of live television and
have everything hit is impossible. And then each cast, as
they change over, each cast has to get their groove.
You have to get used to it. I mean, everybody
loves Weekend Update and I do too. But when those
two guys started, you know, you know, Colin and Chi,
(37:25):
they sucked and they even talked about it. They did.
They go, Yeah, for the first year, we were terrible,
you know, yeah, and now they're great.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
So, yes, I've got a great, great groove.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, they've got a great Did you see The Diplomat?
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Of course? Yeah, that's so again. If you haven't seen
The Diplomat, that's they just released the the second season
of it.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I've watched the second season. It's awesome. Oh my god.
Did you see the final episode of the second season.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I did, Yeah, I watched the whole thing. Yeah, it's again.
It's Kerrie Russell, right, and she's she's not Felicity anymore.
All I mean, she is just so incredibly terrific, and
her character reminds me a little bit of her character
in The Americans right where she has that kind of
very savvy sophistication to her. But again very well written.
(38:15):
The storyline is really terrific, and you're following the characters
and they're all so well developed that you care about
everybody you're watching. I don't like when they just focus
on one or two characters and you have to just
everyone else is just kind of there to support them.
The Diplomat is different. I think everybody has their storyline
that goes on in it, and it really is about
(38:37):
Carrie Russell becoming you know, she's this diplomat and how
she kind of negotiates her way through the White House.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, it's a terrific show, and you're right, you care
about every character.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Final question before I let you go, what did you
think of Nicki at the Globes?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Terrific? One of the best hosts that they've had. I
thought she was edgy, but not too hedgy, as she
said she said, I decided was I'm going to roast
them or toast them? And she went with a toast,
which I think was smart because had she gone with roasting.
It would have been just a little too far for
the globes, you know, the way Rickie Gervaide did, which
I thought was terrific, but I think it was just
(39:13):
too much for regular audiences. I thought she was fought on,
she was clever, she was beautiful, she looked great. I
just thought she was the perfect toast. I see why
they signed her for twenty more years.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I want to be her friend, yeah, you know. I mean,
I'm not like being a pig male like, oh, she's
really hot, Yeah, she's attractive. I want to be your friend.
I mean, that's it, Like I want to I want
to be like her friend.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
And I think that's very likable, very likable.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Like I want to be your friend. Like And that's
why I think she should host it for the next
twenty years.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Cooper, they keep bringing That's why they keep bringing Conan
and Brian back to host the Oscars for the same reason.
He's so likable that even if you don't like the Oscars,
you're watching for Conan.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I love his podcast. He's so good now. I mean
I I think he's at his best with yeah, and he.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Just they just announced that he's winning the Mark Twain
Award this year, so I think he's I think this
is really his year. Whatever comeback is about to happen.
We are on the precipice of it for Conan.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Another Boston guy. All Right, Cooper, thank you very much.
You are our friend. I appreciate your time and enjoy
the Oscars.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Okay, Pat, we'll see Lady Cooper. Laurence CBS entertainment reporter.
She's fantastic joining us here on WBC. Coming up next,
Tanya a Fox. She covers the NFL. She's a podcaster,
and she's all over social media with great hot takes
on sports. She joins us from Los Angeles. Coming up
next on WBC's Night Side,
It's n side with I w BSS radio. Stop stop
stop stop it stop it stop stop stop stop stop
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stop stop. That is from it ends with us. Uh
what a film? What a movie with Blake Lively and
Justin Baldini and it's this whole situation is so disturbing
(00:52):
because as far as a film goes, which compared to
the to the topic at hand here that you know,
the film is is secondary. Right now, I think it's
a terrific film. I think it's well done. I think
it's realistic. I think it has a great message at
the end. But with what has transpired and the ugliness
(01:14):
that has been revealed in this is just so disturbing.
It's not surprising, but it's still disturbing. And joining me
right now is our good friend from New York City
and CBS entertainment reporter Cooper, Lawrence Cooper.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Of course, I'm always here for you, you know, especially when
you talking about my favorite topics.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Well, I know, and I am going to get to this,
but here's a big market Seese. Cooper was on the
set of this film, which we will get to. Can
you just update us right now as best you can
on where things stand because I think it's been getting
a little confusing on who started, what went, and where.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay, I will give you the very quick timeline to
understand what happened on set. Justin Beldoni and his I
guess directing partner is a production partner. Producing partner, Thank
you very much, were inappropriate with Blake Lively. She felt
very uncomfortable, and she had asked them for two things.
(02:14):
She asked for independent producers so that she didn't have
to deal with them directly, and she asked for an
intimacy coach because she felt that some of the things
that he was doing on set were deliberately misogynistic and
deliberately targeting her. She felt she felt unsafe on that set,
so she asked on set privately. She didn't make news
(02:37):
about it, she didn't call a publicist. She literally just
said it to them and that was that. Then the
movie came out and it wasn't really getting great reviews,
and because they had a tumultuous relationship on set, they
didn't really do a lot of press together, and he
felt that somehow she was sabotaging the film, and he
claims that she was basically tanking the film. He then
(03:05):
proactively said, well, she's going to ruin her reputation. He
hired his own PR firm to basically go after her,
and these texts that were revealed to New York Times
basically said it was his PR from talking to each
other saying that we're going to bury Blake Lively. So
as a result, she wasn't gonna saything this entire time,
but now that this came out, then she realized she
(03:27):
had to sue him, so she did. Now he's countersued
for four hundred million dollars, which I don't know how
he thinks he's ever going to be worth that, but fine,
that's the number he chose. So he's countersuing Blake Lively,
Ryan Reynolds and Leslie Sloane, the person who is in
charge of their PR. And that's where we're at right now.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
Well, thank you for setting that straight, because I've had
discussions with people, and as I remember it, he started
this publicly. Now that's not to say she didn't have
cause to come out and say so, because I believe
she did. Because Blake Lively has been in this business
for a long time. My daughter, a teenager, has discovered
(04:09):
gossip Girl on Netflix. It's on all the time. So
Blake Lively is a veteran actor, she knows the deal.
She has been on sets, she has seen a lot,
She's experienced a lot, and automatically I thought, okay, when
(04:29):
she came out to defend herself, I said, there's something
got to be going on because she has never done this.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
There's no history of.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
He drew first blood. You're correct, that's.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Right, which to me, which when you say, look, you
drew first like, I go, the guy was paranoid. So
I feel as I analyze this, Folks, again, I'm not
playing journalists here, I'm playing talk show hosts. I analyzed
this is he knew he did something wrong. He knew
he did something wrong, so he tried to get ahead
of it and it came back to bite him.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
In the ass.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Right, That's exactly what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Crazy Right now, let's talk about the things that happened
on set and see if there's any I'm going to
play devil's advocate, Folks. I believe Blake Lively. I'm on
her side. I'm doing this to make an argument. The
argument that he says he was trying to create an
atmosphere for the condition of the film, method acting and
so forth. I mean showing her pornography on his phone
(05:28):
that has no business being on a set, but making
her uncomfortable, creating tension. Is there any substance to that.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I'm going to tell you one yes, because I was
on set and I was there for one of the
scenes where he kept trying to kiss her, but like,
really just go for it at a at a point
in the film that it would not really have made sense,
and you can see how uncomfortable she was. In fact,
while I was standing there on set, I was watching her,
(06:01):
and I was thinking, you know, usually when two actors
are working together, they kind of, you know, back and forth,
chat figure something out. I know he was also the director,
so even more reason why they would chat. They had
nothing to do with each other. She was on her
phone talking to her I'm going to say, kids, I
was talking to people, maybe Taylor Swift, I don't know
(06:22):
who she was talking to, but she was on her phone.
And as soon as they said action, she handed her
phone to an assistant and then got on set and
then did her thing. And you can see she was
very uncomfortable, and I was thinking, well, the story that
we had been told was that this film was supposed
to be done and in the can before the actor strike,
(06:44):
but because the strike happened, it delayed their shooting. So
now they're shooting months later. They're getting it done. And
she wanted to be with Ryan, she wanted to be
with her kids. She didn't want to be on set.
Maybe that's why, Maybe that's why this whole thing is
weird and uncomfortab. Maybe she just didn't really want to
work right now, wants to be with her kids. And
I thought it was odd. But then there was the
(07:06):
scene where he was trying to kiss her, and you
can see as people, not as actors. There was something
going on that just looked she looked uncomfortable, and I
had no idea. Thought, maybe they don't get who knows.
I can speculate all I want to. I did not
know what was happening, but I just knew something odd
was happening. And I remember going home and telling my boyfriend, like,
(07:30):
this was a weird day on set. It was not
like a normal day I would normally have. And then
the whole story came out. Oh, yes that's what we
were seeing. Now it all makes sense. But you know actors,
especially famous actors, when they are on set and there's
all these people around them and they know they're being watched,
they're on their best behavior. So if there is something off,
(07:52):
it's very evident because they behave in a way that
is definitely different. And that's what was going on that day.
And now it makes perfect sense that at that point,
it was towards the end of the shooting schedule, they
were almost done, and when they got done with the scene,
she turned him and said, can I go now, which
I thought was very interesting. I'd never usually asked, oh,
(08:14):
are we done? Okay, cool, we're cut, Okay, I see
you later. It's never can we Can I go now?
And I remember thinking, wow, that's that's very unusual. And
I don't know why she said that, because she was
just so you know, she was lovely to everybody. She
was so sweet and so kind, So I wasn't thinking, well,
she's just you know, the B word, that's where it
(08:35):
must be. No, she was absolutely lovely, but with him,
she wasn't. And I didn't know whether it was part
of the scene, if it was method acting, but now
I know it was because he was making her uncomfortable.
And he created a hostile work environment, and she was
quiet about it. She didn't say anything to anybody. But
you're right. Once the film was done and she went
(08:57):
off off, you know, in her world and did Lady
Deadpool had had more things to do beyond that. I
think he tried to get ahead of it because he
was afraid that she was going to tank him in Hollywood,
and sure enough, you know, his agent dropped him. They
have the same agent. If I was the agent, who
would you keep Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds some guy
(09:17):
that no one knows who he is.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, it's not even close. But I remember the TV
series Castle with Nathan Fillion, and.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I forgot them more. Yeah, I forgot the way.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'd loved She was terrific actor, but I forgot the
woman's name who played But they did not get along.
They could not stand each other on set, but they
made it work on the show.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
So there are examples.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, we could go back to All in the Family,
you know, where Jean Stable did and Carol O'Connor did
not get along, But it wasn't like this.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
They just didn't see eye to eye.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
So there are instances where you could be on the
set where the leading man in and the leading lady
just don't get along, but when they say action, they
do their job.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
You and I could sit here and spend an hour
coming up with examples of people who famously hated each other,
but yet we're professional and did their jobs, and as viewers,
we would never know that there was no relationship there.
This is different. This is a hostile work environment that
he created and really didn't do anything to make it
(10:25):
okay for her because the fact that even towards the
end of the shooting schedule that she was still feeling
uncomfortable like that. It just I have to tell you
my feeling about him on set. Somebody else said to
me while we were there, He's really a bully, isn't he?
And I hadn't observed him long enough. But this is
(10:45):
somebody that had been on set longer than I had.
They were there for a couple of weeks, and they
said he's a bully is the word they used. So
I just took their word for I was like, well,
maybe that's why you left. I had no idea. But
now that the story has unfolded, you know, it's kind
of the end of usual suspects where you're like, what's
going on? Then suddenly you look around the room and go,
oh oh oh, it all makes.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Sense right right, and you drop them up where we're
at and you drop them all geting crashes on the floor,
and you go. Of course, Cooper Lawrence is our guest
CBS Entertainment reporter. We got a lot more to uncovered
regarding it ends with us right here on WBC's Nightside.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Back after this, now back to Dan ray Mine from
the Window World night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Man stop, please stop, please stop stop.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Look at me, look at me, look at me, look.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
You look at me, Look at I love you baby,
look at me, please please.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
That is from this is us. The audio is creepier
than the video.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, it really is it really.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I just was. I'm listening to this, I go, it's
worse a horror film, Oh my god, which I mean,
unfortunately for Blake Lively it was.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
But always we're talking about the situation between Blake Lively
and jessin Boldona here when Cooper Lawrence joining a CBS
Entertainment reporter, and I mean he's just a think you know,
the guys that think, and but when you listen to
that or you watch that scene. Her acting ability to
put all of this aside and deliver that performance is amazing.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
She's a professional, She's doing her job. I mean, people
don't know that. You know, you and I really we
have a long history of fighting and suiting. But look
at us.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
You never know, right yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, you kick
my ass.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
No, but that's true. No, no, no, but I mean
to just go that deep and then get it done.
And then they go cut and she goes jerk and
you know, leaves. But this is what the sick part
of this as we take a look at this Baldona character.
He writes a movie or co wrote a movie and
directs a movie about domestic violence, sexual assault, and then
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he commits it while he's making it.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
How sick is that?
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Yeah? And the sickest part about it is that the
script had a lot of problems. So he had asked
Ryan Reynolds, who was a producer on the film, to
doctor the script. And all these text messages went back
and forth where Valdoni comes over and he's with Blake
(13:45):
Lively and Ryan Reynolds and Kayla Swift happened to have
been there and they were just sort of going over
the script and discussing it together, and he sends this message,
Oh what that was just such a wonderful session. You guys,
are you really punched up the script? It's so perfect now.
And now he claims that he felt pressured to say
that because of their star power, which doesn't make any
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sense because if you read the text, they come across
very genuine like in retrospect, you could say anything depending
on how you feel about somebody. But in the moment,
he was obviously very grateful because the script did have problems.
You know, it's based on a book, and you should
definitely read the book because it's better than the movie
in my opinion. But it's interesting that, you know, they
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gave him a lot of creative control. And I think
sometimes in Hollywood. Here's an example of how the level
of narcissism is just off the charts in Hollywood. So
justin Baldoni, the news comes out today that he is
counter sewing her for four hundred million dollars. I would,
if I were him, put that out there and then
go home and just kind of hide from the paparazzi
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and just give it a minute. Not him he went to.
He was at LAX with his family because he knows
that's what the paparazzis are when you when you're very famous,
when you're that famous, you don't go to the IVY,
you don't go to LAX. You know how to avoid DMZ.
But not him. He couldn't wait to get on TMZ
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and he didn't say no comment. He was on camera
telling him all about how you know he's going to
survive this because of his family and they have such faith,
they have faith. It just all comes across like a play.
It doesn't come across genuine and I don't know that.
I think sometimes celebrity's narcissism gets in the way of reality.
And I think, to me that was a mistake.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
There's no doubt it does. But let's face it.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
I mean, she's a star, and Blake Lively and Ryan
Reynolds have an incredible body of work and they're much
larger in the business than him. But where his sickness,
and I do believe is sick has cost him is
if he simply directed the film, was a professional and
put it out there. The film made three hundred fifty
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one million dollars at the box office.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
I don't know how much of that is attributed to
the controversy.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
I'm not sure. What do you think.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
I think a lot of it because the film, I think,
you know, it did really well. It's on Netflix now,
it's doing better on Netflix than it did you know,
anywhere else. Yeah, I think people are very interested to
see the chemistry between them. Can you tell a lot
of people did read the book and they were kind
of interested in seeing the book made into a movie.
But this has been going on since they started filming.
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You know. Oh, they were seen on the street kissing.
They're filming the movie. Ah, this is so exciting. So
I think we've been following this story from the very beginning.
So whether the movie is good or not is kind
of irrelevant.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
It's well, if it doesn't happen, If this doesn't happen,
and the movie comes out, what do you think it does.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
If what doesn't happen, I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
If this controversy doesn't happen, If Balboni is a gentleman,
if they get along, everybody's great, they put out the movie,
what happens to the movie. How much money does it make?
Is it up for awards or does it simply just
go away.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, I think it would have bombed. I think it
would have absolutely bombed, just because nobody really knows who
he is. I mean, she has her following, what is that? Okay?
But I think you're right. I think a lot of
the success of the movie now is post all of
this information. And you know, I'm so cynical that there's
a side of me. I was like, was this the
plan all along? Do they secretly love each other? And
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this is the whole plan to get us to watch
this movie? Like that's how cynical I've become.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
I said the same thing.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Of course, I go, is this a pr gimmick? I mean,
is he taking a bullet here to generate some buzz? Now?
I if you were to rate the movie in a
scale of one to ten, what would.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
You give it?
Speaker 3 (17:55):
I mean, I thought she was terrific. I think the
script had some problems, maybe a six.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
See, I liked it. I liked it. I was going
to give it an eight. I liked it.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
I liked the movie like because I thought, first of all,
it's a terrific message.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Secondly, I thought there was I thought it was realistic.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
In that you know, we it's always very easy, especially
for men you know or you know you talk about well,
I mean it was just a doctor in Boston, you know,
now two hundred cases of alleged sexual abuse, and we're like, god,
why do people stick around?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
How come people don't speak up? How come people don't
you know?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
And this movie illustrated how hard it is, you know,
because you know where he comes across.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
He's very genuine. The guy has a history.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
He lost his brother as a result of his actions
when he was younger.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
He has that guilt.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
He's a doctor, he's an emergency you know, he's trying
to save patients. So you have this thing that, oh
my god, this guy is saving lives, right, and he's brilliant,
but he's haunted by his past. So at first you
think he's a very lovable character, and that obviously changes
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when he has these outbursts and he commits and he
hits her right where so.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And she doesn't run away, She sticks around and she says,
you know it was you know, he just got mad
once and.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
She justifies it. So I thought it was very realistic.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Then I'm giving him away the movie now, but you know,
she's you know, because she has a baby in the
marriage and she goes.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
You know, I stayed with.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
The baby he's out, which I thought was a very
realistic ending. So I thought the movie was well done,
to be honest with you, and that this guy, just
if he had done nothing, I thought, and just been
a normal human being, I.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Thought it would have worked out for him. But I
guess I'm in the minority. There, I am in the minority.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Well, you know, you get people that are really big
Colleen Hoover fans, She's the woman who wrote the book originally,
and they have such high expectations. But the problem is,
you know, a book is long, and if you if
you actually turned a book into a movie, the movie
would be six hours long. No one's going to sit
there for all that time. So you have to condense
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it and pick out the parts you think are going
to tell the story in the best way. So I
think there are these purists that are like, oh, I
wasn't that seen in the movie, or I thought that
was an important character. So I think a lot of
you get those critics as well, who are looking for
the same level of dialogue that was in the book.
So yeah, I agree with you, though I think I
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think the story this looks the story was really well written.
It's a it's a very interesting story, and listen well
acted considering what we actually know about them right now,
so right, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And it was in Boston, and I like seeing Boston.
See I like, you know, so I got sucked into it.
I mean, I admit, you know, I got something to it.
But I also think that books should be at least
six episodes in a series.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
That's what I think. I think.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
I think trying to do a movie off a book,
they change half the stuff anyways, half the time, the
endings change. I mean, but for some reason, as a
based on Ernest Hemingway's book, I mean, like, just show
the movie and then if you have a great novel
and a great book, you know, make it eight episodes
if you will, just like, oh, what was the Nicole
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Kidman and Liev Schreiber on the on Martha's Vineyard.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I don't know if you.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Saw a perfect couple.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
I liked it, you know, I thought it was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
YEP, I loved I don't know why they didn't get
more attention than Golden Globes. I thought they were both
terrific in it. I thought. I thought the story was unpredictable.
I loved every character, and I had no idea where
it was going. And you know, I watched so much
of this I'm always like, yeah, I see where this is. No,
it was. I'm really curious as to why it was
ignored by all the critics, why it didn't get any nomination.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I mean, Golden Globes of Tamura was big time with
the international.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Well, it always is. It's a foreign press.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
No, I understand that, but I think even with the
foreign press in the in the past, I would have
to look it up that they've been a little more
welcoming to the films within the United States.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
It seemed to me they really favored the international product
this time, which it was well deserved. I mean, don't
get me wrong, but I think probably there was there
was a lot of competition on the international level.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
You know this set.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
By the way, Jenny Slate Boston, we got to give
her a shout out her love Yeah, Boston.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Kids, good for her, terrific. Yeahs. So she's in if
you haven't seen it, ends with us, she is in it.
She plays the best friend. She's just terrific. She's just yeah, yeah,
she's very charming and you know, but I wonder she
knew what was going on inside the set. I don't.
I think I had heard she made some comments about it,
but I think to be smart, she and uh Hassan
(23:01):
Minaj that who is also they both stayed out of it.
They say, what are you gonna do with it?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
You know, I mean you can't, you know, what are
they gonna do? Look? Do you have time for a
little more conversation here?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I always do for you, always.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Because I want to get into TikTok a little bit too.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
That that's coming up with Cooper Lawrence right here from
CBS Entertainment on WBZ. If you're on Night Side with
Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio, CBS Entertainment guru
Cooper Lawrence joining us here on WBC's Nightside. We've been
breaking down what's going on with ends it ends with us?
Before we move on, Cooper, what do you think happens?
How does this thing wrap up?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
If they're smart, they'll settle somebody. They'll settle it out
and we won't have to sit and watch them go
to court against each other. But the thing is you know,
Ryan Reynolds and and Blake Lively have the richer the
richer daddy, so I wouldn't go after them. I mean basically,
Justin Baldoni is punching up, and I think he doesn't
really understand what he's in for. So I think that
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he's going to either settle with them or walk away.
He's not going to win against them. There is no
way They're too powerful.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well he's done, right, Oh yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
He lost his agent. I don't think anybody would work
with him at this point because listen, he didn't go
after people that everybody hate, like Gwyneth Paltrow. You know,
he went after these two beloved, amazing people, Ryan Reynolds,
he's so beloved, and Blake Lively. So he does come
across like kind of an ogre in this thing, like
you know what, who doesn't love Blake Lively? So I think, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
I agreed, So he was screwed no matter what. Yeah
to me, Like I said, look, he made the mistake
by being paranoid at the beginning.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
But I think he's a narcissist and I think he
thinks that he is in the same rarefied air as
they are, and when he realized he wasn't. That's what
this is really all about. I think the level of
narcissism which is listened very common in that industry. But
I think he's he's really certifiable, in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I don't know him absolutely right now. Absolutely, there's no
doubt about it. He absolutely is okay. By the way, obviously,
what's going on in Los Angeles is it's just awful.
It's just awful, terrible, Yeah, I mean, and it's throwing
the entertainment industry. People are putting on the brakes even
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though it's weird. I talked to a a producer buddy
of mine. He says, believe it or not, dude, people
are still calling me from meetings and I'm like, wow,
that's amazing. How long What does it do to the industry?
I mean, how does this is a six months?
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Is it a year? I mean, do you have any
idea whatever?
Speaker 3 (25:48):
I have a Yeah. I have a friend who's a screenwriter,
and he and I had this conversation because he's in
he's in there, so I was kind of curious what
he thought. And he said, after the Sister strikes, you know,
after the writers build strike, and the actors strike, Hollywood
was really having a hard time recovering. He said, this
is really putting a nail in the coffin right now.
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There's this is absolutely no way that they're going to
be able to continue, because it's not just the big
famous people whose houses burnt down, it's also you know,
the grips and the makeup artists and all those people
who lost everything who can't work there, who had to leave,
who have nothing. So even if you know the big
stars somehow find a way to rally, who's going to
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hold a camera, who's going to hold the microphone, who's
going to edit? They just they've it's decimated the entire
industry right now and it's going to be a while
before it comes back. I have a couple of friends
in the industry who have literally left the country to
go do their work elsewhere because it's just it's just
been too much for them and they and it's cheaper
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to live outside the country right now, it's certainly in
that area.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Yeah, I have the same situation that Australia had.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Win Fred who was a dual citizen here in Australia
when made TV TV shows in Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
You know, which is not a bad gig.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
But I'm glad you brought that up because when I've
been talking to friends as well, and I said, you know,
Hollywood is really it's it's a factory town. You have
Beverly Hills, we get it. You have the red carpet,
but like that's the one percent of the one percent.
But you and you also have working actors who you go, oh,
(27:25):
I remember that person. Ohthough I've seen that person that
you know that make a living, okay, but they're not
household names, and they have mortgages, just like the grips,
and just like the the the the the limo drivers
or the lighting people and the audio people in the
people don't understand that that it's a factory town in
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that way.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
So your point is well taken.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
Well, I blame us. I think I think us, as
the news reporters, we focused, I mean you and I
I mean like collectively focused too much on celebrities. Which
celebrities lost their homes and playing their tiktoks and their instagrams,
you know, of them losing everything. And while that's really
terrible and really sad because especially for their children who've
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lost everything, who don't have any skin in the game
other than they don't have any of their stuff anymore.
The perception for the rest of the country is, why
do I care If some multi millionaire lost their house,
they go, it's just one of their houses. They'll go
build another one. But the thing is that is a
tiny percentage. It's important to remember that the people that
lost everything are not either not in the industry, or
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like you said, they're living paycheck to paycheck and they're
hoping to get work. So that's the majority of people there,
which is why we should donate and do whatever you
can do to help people, just the way they helped
us here in New York during nine to eleven or
the way, or during Hurricane Sandy, like you know, we
saw a lot of charity here, so I think giving
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back now is the time time.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Absolutely, we need to remember that I'm not on TikTok.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I assume you must be.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
I am. Unfortunately, I hate it. I do it. Yeah,
you know, it's one of those things.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
I mean, can I ask you a personal question here
on the radio? Sure, do you make any money off it?
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I'm not on TikTok for money.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Okay, but no do you? But do you? I know
you're not.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
No, no, no, no, no no. I don't make money
off of any of my social media.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
No.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
For me. The thing is, there are influencers whose sole
purpose is to They're actually classes right now being given
at universities in this country that are high end universities
that are hard to get into, and their classes on
how to be an influencer, how to get those contracts,
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how to turn what you're doing on social media into
a real business. That's very different than someone like me,
where I'm just on there to comment on entertainment, to
promote something that CBS News is doing. So it's a
it's a totally different animal for me. I don't make
any money off of any of my social media. That's
never the intention for me. But there are people that
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that is really their soul. So someone's on there, Let's
say they're they're doing a cooking video. They're doing lots
of cooking videos, and they're doing very well. They have
two million viewers and their videos get you know, millions
and millions of hits. They have products that they're on
there promoting. They get paid by those companies to promote,
you know, Queisin art or whatever they're using, they're they're
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going to be out the money. Those are the people
that are really going to suffer. And again not celebrities,
just some woman who you know is doing unboxing videos
with her kid. So I think it's they could go
over to YouTube, they can go elsewhere, which I think
a lot of people are doing right now. But there
are people that do make their living off of TikTok.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I read the average income as one hundred and thirty
one dollars a year.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Know that that's true, I've read it. I've read that
it's much less than that. The people that make a
lot of money on TikTok. Most people make very little.
They average ten to twenty thousand dollars a year if
they're lucky to get something here and there.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
But that I don't think that makes a difference in
somebody's life.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Of course, Oh my gosh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah it does. Yeah, So where are you as far.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
As the fact that it's going away?
Speaker 3 (31:28):
You know, for me, you know, Vine went away, and
I thought that was great at the time. My Space
went away back then. You know, these these social media
sites come and go. You do get on the next
one and you move on and it's you know, I'm
sorry that you're making so much money on TikTok. Go
make money on whatever the next one is. I just
think if you if you have a brand to sell,
you can sell that brand anywhere. It doesn't have to
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be TikTok. You can take your brand. In fact, most
of the influences were already saying to their followers, come
find me on Instagram, come find me on Snapchat. So
you know, it's only one more platform. And if it's problematic,
I think that should be a.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Concern, somebody else will step in.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Something else you'll step in, who hopefully will not be
trying to harvest data of your eleven and twelve year
olds who are on TikTok, even though they're not allowed.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
To be right right? Oh please, oh come on, forget
the age limits. Are you kidding me? I want to
know what you're watching? Do you have time for one
more segment?
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
All right, thank you, Cooper, Cooper Lawrence is the best.
We're going to find out what she's watching. And that's
next year on WBZ.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Now back to Dan Ray Live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Get back here with Cooper Lawrence our a buddy from
CBS News and CBS Entertainment.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
So what are you watching? What's hot out there?
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Now? You got to prepare yourself for the Oscars, which
you're coming up March second, and it's only I feel
like the Oscars are only exciting if you've seen enough
of the movies.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
If you've seen nothing, then you've no interest in watching it.
So if you have Netflix, make sure you watch Amelia Perez.
That will absolutely get nominated for everything. The other big
film is going to be Nickel Boys. It's on everybody's list,
right So those are the two films that I recommend
the most. Right now. This weekend, we're watching season two
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of Severn, which is on Apple TV Plus, and it's
that kind of crazy. If you haven't seen the first season,
you should probably start watching from the beginning so you
know what's going on. But it's kind of a wacky,
the well written show.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
We talked about it last night, and I'll tell you
what I told my buddy.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
We were talking last night about Seventh.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
The premise when you tell me that if I go
to work, I forget what happens at home, and when
I go home, I forget what happens at work. I'm
okay with that, you know. Initially, if I'm at home
and I'm not thinking of work, I'm great. And then
I'm at work and I don't have one of my
kids calling me bitching about something, I'm fantastic. I've tried
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to get into it and I just can't get into it.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
I can't. I don't know why.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It's pretty out there. Yeah, it's pretty out there, but
the acting is quite good to me right now, the
best thing on television. If you don't have Peacock, it's
worth at least just grabbing it and watching it with commercials.
If you have not seen The Day of the Jackal,
that's what Eddie Redmain was nominated for.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I've heard it's really good. He's a great actor.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
My god, he's more than really good. This is this
is one of the best things I've seen on television
in a long long time. It is so well acted
and so well written. You'll recognize Charles Dance as well
from Game of Throne. There'll be a lot of actors
and he'll be like, oh, that's that guy from that thing.
So there's a lot of familiar faces. But more importantly,
it's a really well written story, and they do a
(34:53):
really good job of taking you through each episode so
that you it feels like you've watched a movie in sections.
It's really very i think, very brilliantly does well.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Peacock needs it.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
Yeah, yeah, I know that they were making jokes about
it at the Golden Globes that it's you know, it's
hard to find some on Peacock, but frankly they're actually
doing good this they're doing pretty well right now. And
if you want to watch something kind of old but good,
there's another show on Peacock called Mister Mercedes that is
also quite good that I recommend. It's from twenty seventeen,
(35:25):
but again a lot of actors you'll recognize in it,
and it's a really interesting storyline.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
What's what's the premise for that?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
What's the premise of that? Is? It all starts out
with so all these people are queuing up too for
like a job fair, and you get to know some
of the people online, this woman with a baby, there's
a guy who tells his stop story and as they're
all standing there waiting, a guy in a clown mask
in a Mercedes comes and plows into them, and it's
(35:53):
a mass killing, and it's the story of them trying
to find this mister Mercedes. And as the years passed,
the cops, one of the main cops retires and it's
it's but he's not going to give up on it.
And it's got a lot of terrific actors in it.
Mary Louise Parker is in it. There's just a lot
(36:14):
of really terrific acting and it's just a really interesting story.
It becomes like it's a psychological thriller that again very
very well written. I don't know where I was in
twenty seventeen that I didn't know about it, but I'm
glad that Peacock has it now. I think it's like
three or four seasons of that.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
What did you see SNL fifty.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
I'm not an SNL fan, but I love the movie.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
At the ninety minutes leading I thought they did a
great job with the movie, like The nine is leading
up to ESNL, I thought it was terrific.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
I thought they did a good job.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Yeah, I saw some pieces of it. I saw some
of the interviews of it. I'm just you know, I
don't know why it never resonated with me, but it never.
It just never really did not. I don't know what
it is about it.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Well, here's the reality of SNL is that the legend
is better than the show, right because it's.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Hard to do.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
I mean, to do ninety minutes of live television and
have everything hit is impossible. And then each cast, as
they change over, each cast has to get their groove.
You have to get used to it. I mean, everybody
loves Weekend Update and I do too. But when those
two guys started, you know, you know, Colin and Chi,
(37:25):
they sucked and they even talked about it. They did.
They go, Yeah, for the first year, we were terrible,
you know, yeah, and now they're great.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
So, yes, I've got a great, great groove.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, they've got a great Did you see The Diplomat?
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Of course? Yeah, that's so again. If you haven't seen
The Diplomat, that's they just released the the second season
of it.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I've watched the second season. It's awesome. Oh my god.
Did you see the final episode of the second season.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I did, Yeah, I watched the whole thing. Yeah, it's again.
It's Kerrie Russell, right, and she's she's not Felicity anymore.
All I mean, she is just so incredibly terrific, and
her character reminds me a little bit of her character
in The Americans right where she has that kind of
very savvy sophistication to her. But again very well written.
(38:15):
The storyline is really terrific, and you're following the characters
and they're all so well developed that you care about
everybody you're watching. I don't like when they just focus
on one or two characters and you have to just
everyone else is just kind of there to support them.
The Diplomat is different. I think everybody has their storyline
that goes on in it, and it really is about
(38:37):
Carrie Russell becoming you know, she's this diplomat and how
she kind of negotiates her way through the White House.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah, it's a terrific show, and you're right, you care
about every character.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Final question before I let you go, what did you
think of Nicki at the Globes?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Terrific? One of the best hosts that they've had. I
thought she was edgy, but not too hedgy, as she
said she said, I decided was I'm going to roast
them or toast them? And she went with a toast,
which I think was smart because had she gone with roasting.
It would have been just a little too far for
the globes, you know, the way Rickie Gervaide did, which
I thought was terrific, but I think it was just
(39:13):
too much for regular audiences. I thought she was fought on,
she was clever, she was beautiful, she looked great. I
just thought she was the perfect toast. I see why
they signed her for twenty more years.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
I want to be her friend, yeah, you know. I mean,
I'm not like being a pig male like, oh, she's
really hot, Yeah, she's attractive. I want to be your friend.
I mean, that's it, Like I want to I want
to be like her friend.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
And I think that's very likable, very likable.
Speaker 1 (39:41):
Like I want to be your friend. Like And that's
why I think she should host it for the next
twenty years.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Cooper, they keep bringing That's why they keep bringing Conan
and Brian back to host the Oscars for the same reason.
He's so likable that even if you don't like the Oscars,
you're watching for Conan.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
I love his podcast. He's so good now. I mean
I I think he's at his best with yeah, and he.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Just they just announced that he's winning the Mark Twain
Award this year, so I think he's I think this
is really his year. Whatever comeback is about to happen.
We are on the precipice of it for Conan.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
Another Boston guy. All Right, Cooper, thank you very much.
You are our friend. I appreciate your time and enjoy
the Oscars.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
Okay, Pat, we'll see Lady Cooper. Laurence CBS entertainment reporter.
She's fantastic joining us here on WBC. Coming up next,
Tanya a Fox. She covers the NFL. She's a podcaster,
and she's all over social media with great hot takes
on sports. She joins us from Los Angeles. Coming up
next on WBC's Night Side,
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