January 27, 2025 • 42 mins
Over the weekend, the U.S. and Colombia had a spat over U.S. deportation flights of Colombian migrants. President Trump threatened a 25 percent tariff on all goods imported from Colombia after the country’s president turned away two U.S. military aircraft full of detained Colombian migrants. Colombian President Gustavo Petro took aim with the way the migrants were treated, claiming the Trump Admin. treated the migrants “like criminals.” Petro also threatened to increase Colombian tariffs on U.S. goods by 25% before a deal was reached.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's a nice eze.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Un Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
All right, we're talking about what has been going on
for the last few days in several American cities, and
that are the ICE raids which have resulted in the deportation,
well the attempted deportation of several hundred people who have
been arrested and or detained. The Thrump administration continues to
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tell us that they are going after the worst of
the folks who are here illegally, those who have been
convicted of crimes, serious crimes, not things like jaywalking. And
I am very critical, frankly, of the information that has
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come out now. I've I check every day to try
to get as much information as possible. It's pretty clear
to me that ICE has made a tactical decision that
they will leak out information, specifically to media outlets that
are favorable to their activities. I think they owe a
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responsibility to the American public as a whole to every
day announce as publicly as possible and as transparently as
possible what raids were conducted in what cities and what
the results were up to and including the names of
those people who are being deported and the crimes for
which they had been convicted in or charged period. I
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think it's in their interest to get it out because
you have the folks who are representing the immigrant community
and defending and criticizing any raids of the community, basically
using the people in that community who may be are
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here for the right reasons even though they here illegally.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
They're talking about they're gonna raid schools, They're gonna raid.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Hospitals, and that just plays to the concerns that America
has with what might be construed as over reaction.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I don't know anyone who was opposed well, maybe self people,
but I do still don't know anyone who's opposed to
getting criminals out of this country who are here illegally.
I mean, why would you be opposed to that? Do
we not have enough criminals in America as it is?
We have enough homegrown criminals. Okay, I'm not worried about
people who are here as much. I'm worried about the
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criminals I'm not necessarily here. Worried about someone who's working
under the table. Now should they stay here? I want
to know more about those people. Okay, but they're if
they're doing what they are saying they're doing, and I
believe they are. Get the information out. Let's go to
the phones.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
We're gonna to go to Elvis in Middleton, Massachusetts. Elvis,
you are next on nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
What's up, Dan, It's Telvis.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
You know we had the same We had the same
problem before. Rob, you got it. You got to now
spell Pelvis now, Rob.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
We're good, Yeah, we're good. But anyways, No, I just
I just want to give a little bit of a
quick insight. I know it could be it could be
a lot length here, but I'll just give it to
you real quick. I have a I had a whole
bunch of the you know, some of these migrants working
for me. I have a large scale landscape company north
of Boston. I had a lot of them over here legally.
Who are really disgusted by what the Biden administration has done.
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Because these these guys have been with me since two
thousand and two, two thousand and three. They used to
have to be here I legally ten years. They have
to pay their way to get legal citizenship. Okay. Now,
under the administration, they issued a ti N number tax identification,
which is a Social Security number essentially for migrants coming
over here, if they worked legal and paid a little
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bit of tax and stayed out of trouble, they were
guaranteed citizenship one year. That was their voting rights and
the citizenship. Now the problem with the stronghold and what
the cartel has on a lot of these people are
and I'm also a partner in some restaurant businesses, but
you know, some of these people are over here scared
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to death because the cartel has a stronghold on the
families back home. These people are here carrying out They're
carrying out a certain criteria whatever the cartel wants. Some
of these people are very innocent looking and acting, but
they are doing a lot of nefarious things quietly behind
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the scenes. One of the guys that worked for me
for two years was brought up. He got caught at
North Store Mall by an Ice agent back in February.
He was deported back in two thousand and nine for
child rape and prostitution, and then he came back over
here three years later. We hired him. He was putting
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in sixty hours a week laying brick for us. Nicest
guy in the world on the surface. We had no
idea what the background was. So the problem is some
of these guys don't always look awe.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
How did they find how did they found he was here?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
He got deported in ice agent recognized him. They recognized
him up but up at the sorry, the cheesecake factory.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
It just when when did that happen?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
If he was.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Here and that happened, that happened last he was here
in two thousand and nine. Right, he was deported under
under whatever he was convicted of or whatever. Here he
was deported in two thousand and eleven. I believe he
came back over here two years later under a different alias.
In twenty thirteen, we hired him myself and two other
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large companies. He lays a ton of brick, puts in
sixty hours a week at thirty dollars an hour. He
killed it. He's been around my kids, you know, he's
been around everybody. We had no idea until last February,
where someone recognized him, put them through the database, and
that was it. I mean, this was a guy goes
to church every Sunday, he plays the game the correct way.
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He had two sisters who work for a local fast
food restaurant. They all look the part like they're doing
the right thing. But the problem is a lot of
them have either a stronghold. The church has a lot
to do with this. The Church has a huge umbrella
over a lot of these people, and they're the ones
putting up the most fight right now to keep a
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lot of them here. But that particular instance was sickening
because he's been around my Kase. Yeah, I mean I
was buying him launch, you know, every Friday, free launch,
whatever it was. I mean, it seemed like the nicest
guy in the world. The problem is there's some nefarious
things that don't always look like on the surface. So
my point is you and I can't walk into Canada
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with our hands open and get free everything. Were the
only country who allows it, and there has to be
a real vetting process intact and not something absolutely as
you know. So that's all.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Would let me just ask you this. I've been trying
to argue this hour.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I'm in favor of what Trump is doing, but I'm
very upset that we're not getting more specific information. This
should be a clearinghouse at ice in which they should say, okay,
today they were arrested at seven hundred people fifteen You
know three hundred people were detained. The breakdown is that
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in the following cities, arrest remained. In Los Angeles fifteen arrests,
San Francisco twelve arrests.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Whatever I think, I think you're right, it should be
more transparent. And I don't agree with as much as
I don't agree with anchor babies, which is, you know,
my guys who came over here immediately when they were
scared back. Now I want to say, like two thousand whatever,
they come over, they immediately have three kids here so
they can stay and they have their citizenship. I don't
agree with anchor babies, but I also don't agree with
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ICE agents showing up It's a different topic, but showing
up at the at the bus stations and taking children
because their parents put them in that situation. It's it's
it's not a good look for the rest of the
children who are either on the bus or at the
bus stop watching another.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
You're talking about local school buses that ain't okay, And
when that happens, we'll deal with it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Oh, they're they're they're they're reporting. They're reporting that though,
is what I'm saying. So if that, if that is
happening anywhere, whether it's schools and other kids involved, saying
that's crazy me on this, I have.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Not seen that reported. I have seen newspaper stories that
people don't read. Fear in the community, those people in
the community who are fearful that young children.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
And then you have some dumb.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And they're telling them about Anderson funds them and all them.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yes, well well no.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Then you have some administrators, as some assistant superintendent who
issues a statement under no circumstances will ICE officers.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Be allowed to come in here and take elementary school students.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, that's not happening, So they're preemptively doing that.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yeah, yes, It's like it's like saying, we're fearful that
the ICE officers are going to mistake the illegal aliens
for aliens who are here peacefully from other planets, and
that they have no authority to apprehend Martians or people
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who have come here peacefully from Mars.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I mean, is it's made up out of home.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
But the workers who have a real reason, like I say,
either a work visa or a real dedication to being here,
are absolutely offended by what is going on right now
by their you know, just people walking in and doing
what they want.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And I'm glad you made that point.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Pelvis is always I appreciate your call. Thank you much.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
All right, all right, let's.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Keep it rolling, everybody.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Six one seven, two four ten thirty one line there,
six one seven nine. I am going to try to
pick up the pace here. I apologize something. The calls
have been good, but I'm letting them go too long,
and I want to hear from some of my female callers.
Most of these guys are saying, yeah, they're they're with
me in this. I want to see transparency, and I
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want to see it sooner rather than later. Back on
night Side after this.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Let's keep rolling. They're going to go to Matt. Matt,
you were next one nights. I welcome.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Well, if Matt isn't already, we're gonna put them on
hold and we'll come back to Matt in the meantime.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
We'll go to Jim. Jim you were next on nights.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I go ahead, Jim, Dan any thanks you take my call.
I'll be brief. Uh, thank you, you're welcome. So I'll
just admit that one of the really good things that
I get. I listened to a lot of talk radio.
Uh is I listen like a thief to if there's
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a scholar on a subject or an attorney who's specializes
in a field of section of law. So they could
publish all day long with what they want to publish,
and it wouldn't have any meaning to me because I
don't know the law. I don't know any it's very vague.
It's kind of unexplored and vague. So I'm kind of
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looking to you to kind of I think you've tried
cases in federal court before, so I know you're you're
kind of a legal scholar. So I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Would consider myself a legal scholar. I have not tried
cases in federal quod. I'm a member of the bar
here in Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Uh, And I've.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
More cases in federal court than than than most lawyers
have tried cases in federal court. That's not the point.
The point is, what's your question? I'll be happy to
answer it for you. Well, I don't.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I don't even know enough about it to ask if
uh an intelligent question? These are the.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Nobody because these people.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Give me a Jim Jim let me explain something to
you which might help for you.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Okay, let me give you a little tutorial.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Okay, I don't I'm not trying to suggest that I'm
the smartest guy in the world.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
But what I'm telling you is this.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
If people come into this country illegally, and their illegal
presence here is compounded by the fact that they have
committed crimes in a in the in America, including including
uh serious crimes like the guy that killed h. Lincoln
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Riley the young woman and in Georgia, they can be
tried and convicted here just like a US citizen, and
they also, upon the completion of this sentence, can be
automatically deported. People who are here illegally can be automatically
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deported if if, if somehow.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Can they can they be deported prior to the completion
that can? It can? Part of the can their punishment
be to be deported? Is that and serve their sense
in a form? I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It depends.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
How do we know what they're doing? You ask the questions, says,
where how do we know whether they're doing?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Want the answer or if you just want to talk,
I'll listen to you. Go ahead, go ahead, talk. I'll listen.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
There's other people in the Massachusetts area that should be
calling in about this stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
There.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
There's lots of law schools and students there. They should
be calling in to talk about this. Instead they clam up.
So come on, we don't know how how do you
how do you know if they're doing the right thing
if we don't know what the law on it is.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
So, Jim, Jim, you're not listening to me. Okay, come
on listening to me.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I've explained to you that if someone is here illegally, okay,
and they come to the attention of the authorities, they
are eminently deportable. Okay, eminently deportable. If someone comes here
and works under the table for twenty years and no
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one finds out about it, they're not going to get deported.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
If someone comes here and there is a program that
one of our callers just mentioned a few years ago
which was in place which allowed people who could prove
they had worked here for ten years legally, that they
had worked here i should say, and had a taxpayer
identification number, uh, and that they had paid their taxes
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and all of that, they could almost then get on
a road to being here legally.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
But when you're talking about someone who's here illegally and
they commit a.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Crime to port him, to port him or try him first,
make them serve their time here. There's a story that
one of the Boston newspaper's going to have tomorrow. A
guy killed his wife. He played in Boston in Massachusetts
in two thousand and five. He pled guilty to murder
in the second degree. Okay, I played guilty. He was
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paroled recently, and thank god Ice got him, and he's
going to be deported now if they happen to catch him.
If he comes back into the country, he's automatically deportable.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I can.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
All of these cases are complicated, but I can answer
any one of them for you, Jim, if you want.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Well, okay, well, I really don't know even, like I said,
I don't know enough about it to even ask an
intelligent question. But in certain we're depending on people who
do know about the law to kind of tell us
what should or shouldn't happen in this or it may
be dependent on a judge or a jury. Do they
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have a right to a jury trial? You know, do
they even get a trial? I mean, can they just
be I mean, it seems like they're not getting a
fair hearing if I don't know if they're even entitled
to that. Are they entitled to a fair hearing?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
They are entitled while they are physically present in the
United States. If they commit a crime in the United States,
they are entitled to the same, the same benefits.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I guess you would claim.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
They can go to vote, they can do process, they
can invoke a Fifth Amendment, they can get a lawyer
in all of that, so they do they There have
been court cases which extend due process to people by
the mere physical presence here fact of whether they're a
citizen or an illegal Okay, but all of these cases
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have different twist and turn. Sometimes there's a difference to
someone who was here illegally as opposed to someone who
was here legally and their visa has expired. So you
just got to listen all the different cases.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
So it sounds to me like, at a bare minimum,
all these guys that they're just loading on the planes,
these guys have already out run out of rope. Yes,
or if not, if they make a mistake of deporting
one of them and they and they really shouldn't have
been deported, then That's a big problem, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
If they make the mistake of deporting someone who's an
American citizen, Yeah, that's a huge mistake. But if they
if they.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Deport someone because they're here illegally, I don't consider that
a problem at all.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Well, it's not about I'm not asking what you you know.
We can't go by what you know. If you went
by what everybody personal preference, who knows what would happen.
I'm asking a matter of law. Let's say they've been
charged with the crime, and they're they're they've had a hearing,
they will release on their own recognizance, and they're waiting
a trial. Uh and and but but Ice picks them
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up and just deports them.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
They don't they don't know. If they're waiting a trial,
they're not going to be deported. But if they're, if they.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Are, really, are you sure.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a
full answer. The problem with you, Jim, is you ask
questions you don't listen to answers. So let's assume the
person has been charged with, I don't know, drinking in public, okay,
uh and and they are illegal, I don't think there's
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anything which would prevent this country from saying, and this
administration from saying, Look, they're here legally.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
We don't care. We're not going to spend the.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Time on convicting him on a on a drunk driving
or drinking in public charge. Put him on a plane
and get rid of him. You treat that person differently
than someone who is murdered or rape someone. You don't
want to say to someone.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I thought you said they're entitled the due process.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yes they are, and the due process is you're here illegally.
We've proven you're here illegally. We're not going to keep
you here and feed you and put you uh and
you you do not have the same level of due
process as a citizen. We're deporting you. We will dismiss
the charges of drunk of your drinking in public, your
minor offense. Those charges are dismissed, and we're deporting you.
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We've gone eight minutes. Jim and I wish that we
had listened to each other a little bit more, but
I got to run.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Okay, man By, let me go quickly. Let's see it.
Matt is there. Matt. We tried to get to you
before you're there.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
No, Yeah, yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I'm doing? But I got about two Matt Jason.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I'm close to the yeah, no worries.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
I agree with you. Look, you know we have people
in this country. We have drugs pouring in and whether
it could be coming from China via through Mexico, or
it's going to be the importation of illegals that are
coming in and bringing imports, anybody who's here illegally has to.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
Be held with that right liability.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
They take twenty years here and doing good work, or
twenty years here and getting paths and around the loopholes,
they're here illegally. That's what it is, and if they've
broken the law, they have to go. The only part
I'll disagree with you on slightly then, is that you know,
and I am not a lawyer, but is that under
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federal law, you know, rules of law, it's much easier
to redact no cameras in federal court, no cameras in
federal prisons. They can read that much easier federal law
and federal courts and hide what the what Ice is
doing and those numbers on a much larger degree. I'm
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not saying I agree that it should be the case.
But I'm saying that that's the systematic and continue to
approach and go to the show.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Will.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
First of all, none of these people are going to
do None of these people will being deported, are going
into federal court to litigate, many of them have detainer
orders on them. Many of them have been arrested, They're
being put on planes to leave the country. It's got
nothing to do with cameras in federal court. What I'm
saying is that the Trump administration would be smart to
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basically every day give an accounting or the day after
and saying we functioned yesterday in eleven American cities. These
are the cities where our agents were yesterday. We arrested
this number, we detained this number in it. Amongst them
were eleven people who have been charged with or convicted
of murder, eleven people, twelve people charged.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
With convicted of rape.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Give the American people an understanding of what's going on,
where it's going on, and who's being affected.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
That's called transparency.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
I agree, I just don't see it happen. I agree,
but I just don't see it happening that transparency.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, but if.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
You're transparent, if the Trump administration is stupid enough not
to be. They will eventually pay a price in the
court of public opinion because the American people are supporting
what they're doing right now. As a matter of fact,
I saw a pull out of the New York Times,
which I have in front of me here, Matt, which
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essentially said that do you support or oppose each of
the following deporting immigrants who are here illegally and have
criminal records? Support eighty seven percent.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Oppose it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Why anyone would oppose deporting immigrants who are here illegally
and have criminal records. The vast majority of the people's.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
What No, No, they're part of the urbany, you know,
majority from.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Maybe fair enough? All right, I got around. I wish
you'd been a short on time. You got three minutes.
I came back to you. I don't know where you
were the first time. But when you do call in,
make sure you're hanging on the phone, because you never
know when you're gonna call your number.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, yeah, yeah, take you back to.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Talk to you soon. Here comes the news at the
bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
It's night Side with.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Okay, the only line's opened, six one, seven, Dave, you
were next on nights.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Yeah, n I I'm just I'm surprised at all the
attention and the concern about how this is being done.
But when Biden was letting them invade our country, my
poor governor had to ship them to every stupid blue
state in the country and get rid of them all
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and get them out in Texas and not a peep
in the media.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, I think that. Look, I agree with you, Dave.
I think you know, I actually thought that Abbott did
the right thing because the the wave of illegals that
came across the border, which is so great, it was
you know, it was fine for us here in Massachusetts
because it didn't affect us. But as soon as the
Santas flew those immigrants, those migrants into Martha's Vineyard, first
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of all state in Marthin's Vineyard, I think it was
thirty six hours. We've talked about this before, you know. Yeah,
they bust him off the island. They put him on
that boat, that that ferry back to the mainland.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Within thirty They gave.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Him like a sweatshirt, a hat, and a sandwich and
said you'd be very welcome here. But we just have
no room for you. It was ridiculous. It was ridiculous.
Oh it was. It was virtue signaling, the epitome of
virtue signaling. People like that, And I think that Abbot
Abbot made If Abbot had not done that, you know,
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I don't think that that people like Eric Adams would
have would have been discomforted. So yeah, I agree with you.
The media wasn't going to do it, and I think
Abbott did it out of desperation. I don't blame him.
Speaker 9 (25:44):
Yeah, I mean if he let the ball stay and
he would have made life miserable for US Texas too.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean true, of course, as well as the
expense that you've occurred. We've spent two billion dollars here
in Massachusetts on housing migrants who have come up, and
that's causing. Now our governor, Governor mar Healey is saying
we are not a sanctuary state.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Word had ever spread down to Texas, but that's true.
She's now on record and she's saying that that that
our that she's willing to cooperate with ICE on the
removal of violent criminals, you know, immigrants who have committed crimes.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
Also, these people that haven't committed crimes, they're taking jobs
away from Americans and they're working under the table and
the work.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I think the administration is smart enough to start with
the real bad armbrace.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
And I wish I wish that they would publicize more
fully what they're doing.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
So that there's a couple of businesses in Ohio manufacturing
places and we're just very happy to see those hats
come so they can work for nothing instead of having
to pay union wages.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
No, I agree with that. I understand that.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
We We talked to a fellow earlier today who was saying,
how that that a lot of the migrants who came
here uh and tried to do it legally.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Are upset with the.
Speaker 9 (27:27):
I've talked a lot in Texas. Yeah, there's a lot
of I believe that Hispanic here there here that way legally,
you know, and they're totally miffed at UH and there
for Trump. And you see how Ted Cruz won Texas
and uh Trump won Texas. I mean it would a blowout.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
And of course those the media was saying that those
states were going to be very close. Do you remember
the pollster in Iowa, who had Harris winning by I
think eight points two days before the election. Now, I
think that was an absolute phony bowl. And I guess
she's resigned, uh from the Des Moines register and will
(28:11):
no longer function as upholster. This is this was abominable
stuff that went on absolutely. Hey David, I got a
bunch of calls. I gotta keep rolling here. Enjoyed, enjoyed
our conversation.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I thank you, Okay, thank you there in good night
you too.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
My friend one line at six months, seven two five, four,
ten thirty and got one at six one, seven, nine
three ten thirty. Let me get I don't want to wait,
make people way too long here. Let me go to
Phil fill in Boston. Hey, Phil, next on night Side.
Speaker 10 (28:38):
Yeah, I don't I hope this is related that little twist.
Do you remember the Elijah Gonzalez Cuban young man and.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Alien Gonzalez.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Gonzalez he was a twelve year old kid who would
think he was He might have been younger, he might
have been tenor or nine or ten, but he was
a little boy. He was brought here by his mom,
who escaped from Cuba.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
She drowned at sea.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
She died trying to add him to freedom, and Castro
insisted that he'd be brought back. And I remember it
was April of two thousand. April of two thousand, I
was at Logan Airport getting on a plane to go
to Montreal, and I watched the agents, the federal agents.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
With guns drawn, gun is drawn.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
And the look of terror on that kid's face. He
had been taken in by relatives in Florida, and they
went in and they rested him, rested, wr not arrested,
but rested him from that family. And then he was
sent back to Cuba and now he is a loyal member.
I think of the Castro government as an adult historic
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civil engineer.
Speaker 10 (30:02):
But they're making that was getting a lot of publicity.
You know, I don't see anybody. I don't want to
get into pall of this involved. But no one said
anything about that. But first of all, thank you for
knowing all this stuff. But it's with the fourteenth Amendment,
and I don't know if I want to talk about it,
I don't want it's about it. But it wasn't not
for free slaves, so they couldn't be thrown out of
the country. And I guess in fact they weren't citizens.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I'm guessing, well, they were not citizens until the Emancipation Proclamation. Okay,
And there is you know, there's dispute as to I
don't think that. I don't I think that when you know,
we have historically allowed birthright citizenship now for about one
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hundred and fifty or so years or more. Uh And
And I think the Trump administration has an uphill battle,
but I think they're trying to They're trying to make
a case of it, and I think that's they want
to get the issue to the US Supreme Court. We'll
have to say how well it works out. I mean,
the problem is that when the fourteenth Amendment was passed,
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we didn't have airplanes that could fly pregnant women from
China here by the weekend they're about to deliver. And
that's what's been going on. So I don't know. And
I also want to know the legislative history. What happens
oftentimes in Supreme Court cases is not only do you
have to read the statute that passed, but you have
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to go back and actually read the debate that was
on the floor of the House or Senate at a time.
It's called the legislative history, and sometimes you can find
in legislative history someone saying that, look, this is the
benefit the children of people who were brought here against
their will, goodwill. I'm not an expert on that particular
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aspect of the fourteenth Amendment, but I think it's an
uphill battle for the trumpet minute stration.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
But he's following through on what his pledgures are.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
This system is being I take an advantage of it,
and I don't. I'll quickly on years ago, I talked
to this guy and he said he was on the
cruise ship and he met her woman with her work
there and she said to her him as her the
husband and the wife. He said, because you were you know,
I'll try to become a citizen. You think you can
sign this document saying that you will support me when
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I came in and the guy signed it. So she
was and she wasn't illegal, but this guy signed a
document and she eventually got a prood to become a
citizen because of this guy. Another guy told me it's
called kangaroo or what they call it jumping citizenship, where
they can just they can have one person become a
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citizen and then they have their cousins come over their uncles.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Called it's called immigrants. It's called immigrant chain chain.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Right right, immigration. Yeah. Anyways, Like again, we got to
tighten up. We got to tighten up. We got to
know who was coming in the country.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
We want people to we want people to come here legally,
but we want them.
Speaker 10 (33:05):
To call here whatever. I will lucky to be. I
understand that. But you know, listen, where are we gonna go.
You can go back, you can go to Island. You're
a citizen of Island. I believe I got nowhere to go.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I don't like the tax rate over there. It's a
it's a pretty it's a tough tax rate. Hey, Phil,
thank you much, man. I appreciate your calling.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You have a great one.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Good night, all right, take a quick break. I got
Paul in Southey coming up and Dave in Montreal.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Folks joined the conversation, and we were very short of
women callers tonight, which surprises me on this but that's okay. Uh,
some nights we have a preponderance of one or the other.
I'll throw the numbers out if you want to try
to give it, give it a shot. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,
thirty six one, seven, nine thirty coming back on night Side.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Okay, let's get them all in.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Paul in South Boston next to the Nice I go ahead, Paul,
you are on the air, Go right.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
Ahead, Hi, Dan, Nice to talk to you again.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Absolutely, Paul's what you're taking.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
All of this.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I'll be real quick, so I know you have some
of the calls you want to get in.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
But anyway, I just wanted to say that they all
have to go, even the ones that are not criminals.
This has been four years of talk. I live in
public housing, Dan, and people are taken away from resources
from people like me, and that's not right.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
It's not fair.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
I followed you for the last several years that you
were doing stories on illegal immigration here and it's discussed
and they're still coming. I've seen it today on YouTube.
A young lady with a new book like a year
old baby in her I'm and another one with a
seven year old and they're cutting to trying to get
to bar wire and the Marines had to push them,
you know, send them back. How can you risk hurting
(34:52):
a little infant baby? But you can't let everybody in,
Dan do it the right way, like you say, and
that's how we want do it the right way. I
have no problem with immigrants. I have a problem with
the legal immigrant, but I also blame the government to
allow it to happen.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Well, not this administration at this point. So let's write
it with Biden.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, let's give him a chance. Let's give him a chance,
and let's let's encourage the Trump administration to be transparent.
He just signed an executive order ordering everything about the
assassinations of JFK, RF and MLK. I say, hats off
to that. He's the first president who has done that,
(35:39):
the only president who's done that. Let's treat the the
deportation of these ego immigrants with the same amount of.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Transparency and one more them.
Speaker 11 (35:50):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Do you think the media is going to try to
destroy Trump to continue on this thing down the road eventually?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I think the media has no clue, uh, particularly in
national media. I listened to some of the Sunday interview
talk shows. It's like their outrage, Well, how could this happen?
How could that happen? Yeah, wake up, they live in
they live in in in in gated communities. They're not
impacted by this. Uh and all they all they do
(36:19):
is virtue signal. That's all.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
Thank you Dan, Thanks Paul.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Appreciate it. Thought you soon. David, Montreal, Dave, welcome to Nightside.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 7 (36:28):
And I'm good.
Speaker 11 (36:29):
Thanks. I just wanted to say, as you know, I'm
in Montreal and we border are kind of the borders,
the US border, sure, USC and also we so we're
like a suburb of the United States, but we're you know,
everybody knows we're some of the British colony. And if
you guys were feeling no, no, but if you guys
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are feeling the impact of the immigrants, we would be
feeling it too. Where with in terms of crime, prostitution,
et cetera. The immigration situation has been going on for
one hundred years. It's so this thing about all of
a sudden, the immigration and they're coming to taking jobs,
they're killing people. Bernard Kirk, you're the police commissioner of
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New York. Had a nanny, I remember, and she was illegal.
And there's so many others out there that have nineties
and people working for them. You can't get rid of
everybody there's some good people in that miss mix. We're
just trying to get away from a bad situation, and
they have no.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
I don't know how much you listening to my show,
but no one is disputing that they are not good,
decent people in the mix. But there's there's three sets
of people here, Dave one. Immigrants who have come here
legally and are going through the process legally. I'm with
them all the way.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Then you have people who have come here illegally and
who are trying to function properly, but still come here
legally illegally. I got a problem with that because I
don't want them to be in front of people who
are waiting around the world to do the right thing.
And then we have illegals who have come here and
committed horrific crimes, including drug smuggling, murder, rape. I want them.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I want them out of here yesterday.
Speaker 11 (38:19):
And I agree with you one hundred percent. But the
second example you gave are those are the people that
are most It sounds like those are the ones that
are here because those are the ones that are in
all over. I should say that they're trying to make
an impact and change their lives. If it was the
third Like you said, these people who were in here
doing crime, etc. Every major city would be inundated with
(38:42):
huge crime from these guys. We're not talking.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
About major cities in America are inundated with crime. Go
to New York.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Go to New York and ride the subway, but don't
stand too close to the edge of the subway or
someone's going to push you in front of a moving train.
To go to Chicago and walk around on the South
Side some night and and good luck not getting shot.
Come on, Chicago is a free fire zone. It's more
dangerous to live in Chicago than to be on the
ground in the Middle East. As a US military personnel.
Speaker 11 (39:17):
I agree, but that's because they allowed it to get
out of hand for years and years and nobody did
it that nobody did anything. Those social programs generation it
becomes generation programs.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
What do you mean, no social progress? We get social programs.
Something ying Yang down here?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Man?
Speaker 11 (39:32):
No, yes, what not? It's places like Chicago. It's a
lot of nonprofit. The government should have went in their
feet first and took over and put in some heavy
lip social programs in certain areas where they have something.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
The only people were more social programs than us are
the Canadians.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Dave and I don't know. It's tell that great. Let
me give you let me Dave like one more, Dave, Dave,
do me a favor. Have you called before? And a yeah?
Never called before?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Well, first of all, a round the applause from my
studio audience.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I got one other call I got to take. I
want you to call back more often, more frequently. We're
gonna have some great conversations, you and me. I mean
that honestly. Okay, okay, but.
Speaker 11 (40:21):
I love your soul, bro, because I listened to a
lot of the radio and you're the only one that's
out there. Who's who's you know, you're playing fields pretty
level doing That's that what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I'm with you, and you will help me keep it
more level.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Thank you, my friend. We will talk to you.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Okay, thanks all right, but thanks.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
A good one. Albert and Dorchester. Albert, we're very tight
on time. I'm not sure how much time we have left.
Maybe Rob will tell me, maybe he won't. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Then? How you doing today?
Speaker 4 (40:53):
How much time? Rob? One minute? Okay, go ahead, Albert?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Then I just wanna I just wanna say I wish
I had more time. Then I agree with you about Trisparency,
which I don't think it's gonna happen. I actually email
you with the copy of the Act of ninety six.
I'm sure you're yes, have.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
It in front of me as a matter of fact,
and I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
We'll talk about that tomorrow night, and if you want
to call back tomorrow night, I'm going to read that
as well as the Cornell Law Review article that is
that's associated with it.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, I would, I would definitely. I'll definitely listen. I
listen to you every day. I will definitely call tomorrow
if you do talk about it because I wish I
had more time. Tarie. Yes, yeah, he's a problem.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Here's the problem, Albert. I'm flat out of time. Literally literally,
I'm going to read this article. Let's talk tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Okay, I will definitely call you lost, Thank you much.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
All right, We're done for the night.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
I want to thank Rob, I want to thank Maria
to want to thank all the callers. I'll be on
Facebook on Nightside with Dan Range just a couple of minutes.
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Un Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
All right, we're talking about what has been going on
for the last few days in several American cities, and
that are the ICE raids which have resulted in the deportation,
well the attempted deportation of several hundred people who have
been arrested and or detained. The Thrump administration continues to
(00:29):
tell us that they are going after the worst of
the folks who are here illegally, those who have been
convicted of crimes, serious crimes, not things like jaywalking. And
I am very critical, frankly, of the information that has
(00:51):
come out now. I've I check every day to try
to get as much information as possible. It's pretty clear
to me that ICE has made a tactical decision that
they will leak out information, specifically to media outlets that
are favorable to their activities. I think they owe a
(01:14):
responsibility to the American public as a whole to every
day announce as publicly as possible and as transparently as
possible what raids were conducted in what cities and what
the results were up to and including the names of
those people who are being deported and the crimes for
which they had been convicted in or charged period. I
(01:39):
think it's in their interest to get it out because
you have the folks who are representing the immigrant community
and defending and criticizing any raids of the community, basically
using the people in that community who may be are
(02:00):
here for the right reasons even though they here illegally.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
They're talking about they're gonna raid schools, They're gonna raid.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Hospitals, and that just plays to the concerns that America
has with what might be construed as over reaction.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I don't know anyone who was opposed well, maybe self people,
but I do still don't know anyone who's opposed to
getting criminals out of this country who are here illegally.
I mean, why would you be opposed to that? Do
we not have enough criminals in America as it is?
We have enough homegrown criminals. Okay, I'm not worried about
people who are here as much. I'm worried about the
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criminals I'm not necessarily here. Worried about someone who's working
under the table. Now should they stay here? I want
to know more about those people. Okay, but they're if
they're doing what they are saying they're doing, and I
believe they are. Get the information out. Let's go to
the phones.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
We're gonna to go to Elvis in Middleton, Massachusetts. Elvis,
you are next on nightside. Welcome.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
What's up, Dan, It's Telvis.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
You know we had the same We had the same
problem before. Rob, you got it. You got to now
spell Pelvis now, Rob.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
We're good, Yeah, we're good. But anyways, No, I just
I just want to give a little bit of a
quick insight. I know it could be it could be
a lot length here, but I'll just give it to
you real quick. I have a I had a whole
bunch of the you know, some of these migrants working
for me. I have a large scale landscape company north
of Boston. I had a lot of them over here legally.
Who are really disgusted by what the Biden administration has done.
(03:38):
Because these these guys have been with me since two
thousand and two, two thousand and three. They used to
have to be here I legally ten years. They have
to pay their way to get legal citizenship. Okay. Now,
under the administration, they issued a ti N number tax identification,
which is a Social Security number essentially for migrants coming
over here, if they worked legal and paid a little
(04:01):
bit of tax and stayed out of trouble, they were
guaranteed citizenship one year. That was their voting rights and
the citizenship. Now the problem with the stronghold and what
the cartel has on a lot of these people are
and I'm also a partner in some restaurant businesses, but
you know, some of these people are over here scared
(04:21):
to death because the cartel has a stronghold on the
families back home. These people are here carrying out They're
carrying out a certain criteria whatever the cartel wants. Some
of these people are very innocent looking and acting, but
they are doing a lot of nefarious things quietly behind
(04:42):
the scenes. One of the guys that worked for me
for two years was brought up. He got caught at
North Store Mall by an Ice agent back in February.
He was deported back in two thousand and nine for
child rape and prostitution, and then he came back over
here three years later. We hired him. He was putting
(05:03):
in sixty hours a week laying brick for us. Nicest
guy in the world on the surface. We had no
idea what the background was. So the problem is some
of these guys don't always look awe.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
How did they find how did they found he was here?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
He got deported in ice agent recognized him. They recognized
him up but up at the sorry, the cheesecake factory.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
It just when when did that happen?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
If he was.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Here and that happened, that happened last he was here
in two thousand and nine. Right, he was deported under
under whatever he was convicted of or whatever. Here he
was deported in two thousand and eleven. I believe he
came back over here two years later under a different alias.
In twenty thirteen, we hired him myself and two other
(05:52):
large companies. He lays a ton of brick, puts in
sixty hours a week at thirty dollars an hour. He
killed it. He's been around my kids, you know, he's
been around everybody. We had no idea until last February,
where someone recognized him, put them through the database, and
that was it. I mean, this was a guy goes
to church every Sunday, he plays the game the correct way.
(06:13):
He had two sisters who work for a local fast
food restaurant. They all look the part like they're doing
the right thing. But the problem is a lot of
them have either a stronghold. The church has a lot
to do with this. The Church has a huge umbrella
over a lot of these people, and they're the ones
putting up the most fight right now to keep a
(06:35):
lot of them here. But that particular instance was sickening
because he's been around my Kase. Yeah, I mean I
was buying him launch, you know, every Friday, free launch,
whatever it was. I mean, it seemed like the nicest
guy in the world. The problem is there's some nefarious
things that don't always look like on the surface. So
my point is you and I can't walk into Canada
(06:55):
with our hands open and get free everything. Were the
only country who allows it, and there has to be
a real vetting process intact and not something absolutely as
you know. So that's all.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Would let me just ask you this. I've been trying
to argue this hour.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
I'm in favor of what Trump is doing, but I'm
very upset that we're not getting more specific information. This
should be a clearinghouse at ice in which they should say, okay,
today they were arrested at seven hundred people fifteen You
know three hundred people were detained. The breakdown is that
(07:38):
in the following cities, arrest remained. In Los Angeles fifteen arrests,
San Francisco twelve arrests.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Whatever I think, I think you're right, it should be
more transparent. And I don't agree with as much as
I don't agree with anchor babies, which is, you know,
my guys who came over here immediately when they were
scared back. Now I want to say, like two thousand whatever,
they come over, they immediately have three kids here so
they can stay and they have their citizenship. I don't
agree with anchor babies, but I also don't agree with
(08:05):
ICE agents showing up It's a different topic, but showing
up at the at the bus stations and taking children
because their parents put them in that situation. It's it's
it's not a good look for the rest of the
children who are either on the bus or at the
bus stop watching another.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
You're talking about local school buses that ain't okay, And
when that happens, we'll deal with it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Oh, they're they're they're they're reporting. They're reporting that though,
is what I'm saying. So if that, if that is
happening anywhere, whether it's schools and other kids involved, saying
that's crazy me on this, I have.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Not seen that reported. I have seen newspaper stories that
people don't read. Fear in the community, those people in
the community who are fearful that young children.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
And then you have some dumb.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And they're telling them about Anderson funds them and all them.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Yes, well well no.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Then you have some administrators, as some assistant superintendent who
issues a statement under no circumstances will ICE officers.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Be allowed to come in here and take elementary school students.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, that's not happening, So they're preemptively doing that.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
Yeah, yes, It's like it's like saying, we're fearful that
the ICE officers are going to mistake the illegal aliens
for aliens who are here peacefully from other planets, and
that they have no authority to apprehend Martians or people
(09:40):
who have come here peacefully from Mars.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I mean, is it's made up out of home.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
But the workers who have a real reason, like I say,
either a work visa or a real dedication to being here,
are absolutely offended by what is going on right now
by their you know, just people walking in and doing
what they want.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And I'm glad you made that point.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Pelvis is always I appreciate your call. Thank you much.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
All right, all right, let's.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Keep it rolling, everybody.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Six one seven, two four ten thirty one line there,
six one seven nine. I am going to try to
pick up the pace here. I apologize something. The calls
have been good, but I'm letting them go too long,
and I want to hear from some of my female callers.
Most of these guys are saying, yeah, they're they're with
me in this. I want to see transparency, and I
(10:29):
want to see it sooner rather than later. Back on
night Side after this.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Let's keep rolling. They're going to go to Matt. Matt,
you were next one nights. I welcome.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Well, if Matt isn't already, we're gonna put them on
hold and we'll come back to Matt in the meantime.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
We'll go to Jim. Jim you were next on nights.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
I go ahead, Jim, Dan any thanks you take my call.
I'll be brief. Uh, thank you, you're welcome. So I'll
just admit that one of the really good things that
I get. I listened to a lot of talk radio.
Uh is I listen like a thief to if there's
(11:17):
a scholar on a subject or an attorney who's specializes
in a field of section of law. So they could
publish all day long with what they want to publish,
and it wouldn't have any meaning to me because I
don't know the law. I don't know any it's very vague.
It's kind of unexplored and vague. So I'm kind of
(11:40):
looking to you to kind of I think you've tried
cases in federal court before, so I know you're you're
kind of a legal scholar. So I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Would consider myself a legal scholar. I have not tried
cases in federal quod. I'm a member of the bar
here in Massachusetts.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Uh, And I've.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
More cases in federal court than than than most lawyers
have tried cases in federal court. That's not the point.
The point is, what's your question? I'll be happy to
answer it for you. Well, I don't.
Speaker 6 (12:11):
I don't even know enough about it to ask if
uh an intelligent question? These are the.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Nobody because these people.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Give me a Jim Jim let me explain something to
you which might help for you.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Okay, let me give you a little tutorial.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Okay, I don't I'm not trying to suggest that I'm
the smartest guy in the world.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
But what I'm telling you is this.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
If people come into this country illegally, and their illegal
presence here is compounded by the fact that they have
committed crimes in a in the in America, including including
uh serious crimes like the guy that killed h. Lincoln
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Riley the young woman and in Georgia, they can be
tried and convicted here just like a US citizen, and
they also, upon the completion of this sentence, can be
automatically deported. People who are here illegally can be automatically
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deported if if, if somehow.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
Can they can they be deported prior to the completion
that can? It can? Part of the can their punishment
be to be deported? Is that and serve their sense
in a form? I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
It depends.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
How do we know what they're doing? You ask the questions, says,
where how do we know whether they're doing?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Want the answer or if you just want to talk,
I'll listen to you. Go ahead, go ahead, talk. I'll listen.
Speaker 6 (13:45):
There's other people in the Massachusetts area that should be
calling in about this stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
There.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
There's lots of law schools and students there. They should
be calling in to talk about this. Instead they clam up.
So come on, we don't know how how do you
how do you know if they're doing the right thing
if we don't know what the law on it is.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
So, Jim, Jim, you're not listening to me. Okay, come
on listening to me.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I've explained to you that if someone is here illegally, okay,
and they come to the attention of the authorities, they
are eminently deportable. Okay, eminently deportable. If someone comes here
and works under the table for twenty years and no
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one finds out about it, they're not going to get deported.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
If someone comes here and there is a program that
one of our callers just mentioned a few years ago
which was in place which allowed people who could prove
they had worked here for ten years legally, that they
had worked here i should say, and had a taxpayer
identification number, uh, and that they had paid their taxes
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and all of that, they could almost then get on
a road to being here legally.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
But when you're talking about someone who's here illegally and
they commit a.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Crime to port him, to port him or try him first,
make them serve their time here. There's a story that
one of the Boston newspaper's going to have tomorrow. A
guy killed his wife. He played in Boston in Massachusetts
in two thousand and five. He pled guilty to murder
in the second degree. Okay, I played guilty. He was
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paroled recently, and thank god Ice got him, and he's
going to be deported now if they happen to catch him.
If he comes back into the country, he's automatically deportable.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I can.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
All of these cases are complicated, but I can answer
any one of them for you, Jim, if you want.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Well, okay, well, I really don't know even, like I said,
I don't know enough about it to even ask an
intelligent question. But in certain we're depending on people who
do know about the law to kind of tell us
what should or shouldn't happen in this or it may
be dependent on a judge or a jury. Do they
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have a right to a jury trial? You know, do
they even get a trial? I mean, can they just
be I mean, it seems like they're not getting a
fair hearing if I don't know if they're even entitled
to that. Are they entitled to a fair hearing?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
They are entitled while they are physically present in the
United States. If they commit a crime in the United States,
they are entitled to the same, the same benefits.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
I guess you would claim.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
They can go to vote, they can do process, they
can invoke a Fifth Amendment, they can get a lawyer
in all of that, so they do they There have
been court cases which extend due process to people by
the mere physical presence here fact of whether they're a
citizen or an illegal Okay, but all of these cases
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have different twist and turn. Sometimes there's a difference to
someone who was here illegally as opposed to someone who
was here legally and their visa has expired. So you
just got to listen all the different cases.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
So it sounds to me like, at a bare minimum,
all these guys that they're just loading on the planes,
these guys have already out run out of rope. Yes,
or if not, if they make a mistake of deporting
one of them and they and they really shouldn't have
been deported, then That's a big problem, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
If they make the mistake of deporting someone who's an
American citizen, Yeah, that's a huge mistake. But if they
if they.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Deport someone because they're here illegally, I don't consider that
a problem at all.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
Well, it's not about I'm not asking what you you know.
We can't go by what you know. If you went
by what everybody personal preference, who knows what would happen.
I'm asking a matter of law. Let's say they've been
charged with the crime, and they're they're they've had a hearing,
they will release on their own recognizance, and they're waiting
a trial. Uh and and but but Ice picks them
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up and just deports them.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
They don't they don't know. If they're waiting a trial,
they're not going to be deported. But if they're, if they.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
Are, really, are you sure.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Well, I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna give you a
full answer. The problem with you, Jim, is you ask
questions you don't listen to answers. So let's assume the
person has been charged with, I don't know, drinking in public, okay,
uh and and they are illegal, I don't think there's
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anything which would prevent this country from saying, and this
administration from saying, Look, they're here legally.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
We don't care. We're not going to spend the.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Time on convicting him on a on a drunk driving
or drinking in public charge. Put him on a plane
and get rid of him. You treat that person differently
than someone who is murdered or rape someone. You don't
want to say to someone.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
I thought you said they're entitled the due process.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Yes they are, and the due process is you're here illegally.
We've proven you're here illegally. We're not going to keep
you here and feed you and put you uh and
you you do not have the same level of due
process as a citizen. We're deporting you. We will dismiss
the charges of drunk of your drinking in public, your
minor offense. Those charges are dismissed, and we're deporting you.
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We've gone eight minutes. Jim and I wish that we
had listened to each other a little bit more, but
I got to run.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Okay, man By, let me go quickly. Let's see it.
Matt is there. Matt. We tried to get to you
before you're there.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
No, Yeah, yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 9 (19:54):
How you doing?
Speaker 4 (19:56):
I'm doing? But I got about two Matt Jason.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I'm close to the yeah, no worries.
Speaker 8 (20:04):
I agree with you. Look, you know we have people
in this country. We have drugs pouring in and whether
it could be coming from China via through Mexico, or
it's going to be the importation of illegals that are
coming in and bringing imports, anybody who's here illegally has to.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
Be held with that right liability.
Speaker 8 (20:27):
They take twenty years here and doing good work, or
twenty years here and getting paths and around the loopholes,
they're here illegally. That's what it is, and if they've
broken the law, they have to go. The only part
I'll disagree with you on slightly then, is that you know,
and I am not a lawyer, but is that under
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federal law, you know, rules of law, it's much easier
to redact no cameras in federal court, no cameras in
federal prisons. They can read that much easier federal law
and federal courts and hide what the what Ice is
doing and those numbers on a much larger degree. I'm
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not saying I agree that it should be the case.
But I'm saying that that's the systematic and continue to
approach and go to the show.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Will.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
First of all, none of these people are going to
do None of these people will being deported, are going
into federal court to litigate, many of them have detainer
orders on them. Many of them have been arrested, They're
being put on planes to leave the country. It's got
nothing to do with cameras in federal court. What I'm
saying is that the Trump administration would be smart to
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basically every day give an accounting or the day after
and saying we functioned yesterday in eleven American cities. These
are the cities where our agents were yesterday. We arrested
this number, we detained this number in it. Amongst them
were eleven people who have been charged with or convicted
of murder, eleven people, twelve people charged.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
With convicted of rape.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
Give the American people an understanding of what's going on,
where it's going on, and who's being affected.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
That's called transparency.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
I agree, I just don't see it happen. I agree,
but I just don't see it happening that transparency.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, but if.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
You're transparent, if the Trump administration is stupid enough not
to be. They will eventually pay a price in the
court of public opinion because the American people are supporting
what they're doing right now. As a matter of fact,
I saw a pull out of the New York Times,
which I have in front of me here, Matt, which
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essentially said that do you support or oppose each of
the following deporting immigrants who are here illegally and have
criminal records? Support eighty seven percent.
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Oppose it.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Why anyone would oppose deporting immigrants who are here illegally
and have criminal records. The vast majority of the people's.
Speaker 8 (23:13):
What No, No, they're part of the urbany, you know,
majority from.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Maybe fair enough? All right, I got around. I wish
you'd been a short on time. You got three minutes.
I came back to you. I don't know where you
were the first time. But when you do call in,
make sure you're hanging on the phone, because you never
know when you're gonna call your number.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay, yeah, yeah, take you back to.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Talk to you soon. Here comes the news at the
bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
It's night Side with.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Okay, the only line's opened, six one, seven, Dave, you
were next on nights.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I go right ahead.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Yeah, n I I'm just I'm surprised at all the
attention and the concern about how this is being done.
But when Biden was letting them invade our country, my
poor governor had to ship them to every stupid blue
state in the country and get rid of them all
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and get them out in Texas and not a peep
in the media.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
Well, I think that. Look, I agree with you, Dave.
I think you know, I actually thought that Abbott did
the right thing because the the wave of illegals that
came across the border, which is so great, it was
you know, it was fine for us here in Massachusetts
because it didn't affect us. But as soon as the
Santas flew those immigrants, those migrants into Martha's Vineyard, first
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of all state in Marthin's Vineyard, I think it was
thirty six hours. We've talked about this before, you know. Yeah,
they bust him off the island. They put him on
that boat, that that ferry back to the mainland.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Within thirty They gave.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Him like a sweatshirt, a hat, and a sandwich and
said you'd be very welcome here. But we just have
no room for you. It was ridiculous. It was ridiculous.
Oh it was. It was virtue signaling, the epitome of
virtue signaling. People like that, And I think that Abbot
Abbot made If Abbot had not done that, you know,
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I don't think that that people like Eric Adams would
have would have been discomforted. So yeah, I agree with you.
The media wasn't going to do it, and I think
Abbott did it out of desperation. I don't blame him.
Speaker 9 (25:44):
Yeah, I mean if he let the ball stay and
he would have made life miserable for US Texas too.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, I mean true, of course, as well as the
expense that you've occurred. We've spent two billion dollars here
in Massachusetts on housing migrants who have come up, and
that's causing. Now our governor, Governor mar Healey is saying
we are not a sanctuary state.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
Oh wow.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Word had ever spread down to Texas, but that's true.
She's now on record and she's saying that that that
our that she's willing to cooperate with ICE on the
removal of violent criminals, you know, immigrants who have committed crimes.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
Also, these people that haven't committed crimes, they're taking jobs
away from Americans and they're working under the table and
the work.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
I think the administration is smart enough to start with
the real bad armbrace.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
And I wish I wish that they would publicize more
fully what they're doing.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
So that there's a couple of businesses in Ohio manufacturing
places and we're just very happy to see those hats
come so they can work for nothing instead of having
to pay union wages.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
No, I agree with that. I understand that.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
We We talked to a fellow earlier today who was saying,
how that that a lot of the migrants who came
here uh and tried to do it legally.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Are upset with the.
Speaker 9 (27:27):
I've talked a lot in Texas. Yeah, there's a lot
of I believe that Hispanic here there here that way legally,
you know, and they're totally miffed at UH and there
for Trump. And you see how Ted Cruz won Texas
and uh Trump won Texas. I mean it would a blowout.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
And of course those the media was saying that those
states were going to be very close. Do you remember
the pollster in Iowa, who had Harris winning by I
think eight points two days before the election. Now, I
think that was an absolute phony bowl. And I guess
she's resigned, uh from the Des Moines register and will
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no longer function as upholster. This is this was abominable
stuff that went on absolutely. Hey David, I got a
bunch of calls. I gotta keep rolling here. Enjoyed, enjoyed
our conversation.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I thank you, Okay, thank you there in good night
you too.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
My friend one line at six months, seven two five, four,
ten thirty and got one at six one, seven, nine
three ten thirty. Let me get I don't want to wait,
make people way too long here. Let me go to
Phil fill in Boston. Hey, Phil, next on night Side.
Speaker 10 (28:38):
Yeah, I don't I hope this is related that little twist.
Do you remember the Elijah Gonzalez Cuban young man and.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
Alien Gonzalez.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
Gonzalez he was a twelve year old kid who would
think he was He might have been younger, he might
have been tenor or nine or ten, but he was
a little boy. He was brought here by his mom,
who escaped from Cuba.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
She drowned at sea.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
She died trying to add him to freedom, and Castro
insisted that he'd be brought back. And I remember it
was April of two thousand. April of two thousand, I
was at Logan Airport getting on a plane to go
to Montreal, and I watched the agents, the federal agents.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
With guns drawn, gun is drawn.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
And the look of terror on that kid's face. He
had been taken in by relatives in Florida, and they
went in and they rested him, rested, wr not arrested,
but rested him from that family. And then he was
sent back to Cuba and now he is a loyal member.
I think of the Castro government as an adult historic
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civil engineer.
Speaker 10 (30:02):
But they're making that was getting a lot of publicity.
You know, I don't see anybody. I don't want to
get into pall of this involved. But no one said
anything about that. But first of all, thank you for
knowing all this stuff. But it's with the fourteenth Amendment,
and I don't know if I want to talk about it,
I don't want it's about it. But it wasn't not
for free slaves, so they couldn't be thrown out of
the country. And I guess in fact they weren't citizens.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I'm guessing, well, they were not citizens until the Emancipation Proclamation. Okay,
And there is you know, there's dispute as to I
don't think that. I don't I think that when you know,
we have historically allowed birthright citizenship now for about one
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hundred and fifty or so years or more. Uh And
And I think the Trump administration has an uphill battle,
but I think they're trying to They're trying to make
a case of it, and I think that's they want
to get the issue to the US Supreme Court. We'll
have to say how well it works out. I mean,
the problem is that when the fourteenth Amendment was passed,
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we didn't have airplanes that could fly pregnant women from
China here by the weekend they're about to deliver. And
that's what's been going on. So I don't know. And
I also want to know the legislative history. What happens
oftentimes in Supreme Court cases is not only do you
have to read the statute that passed, but you have
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to go back and actually read the debate that was
on the floor of the House or Senate at a time.
It's called the legislative history, and sometimes you can find
in legislative history someone saying that, look, this is the
benefit the children of people who were brought here against
their will, goodwill. I'm not an expert on that particular
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aspect of the fourteenth Amendment, but I think it's an
uphill battle for the trumpet minute stration.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
But he's following through on what his pledgures are.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
This system is being I take an advantage of it,
and I don't. I'll quickly on years ago, I talked
to this guy and he said he was on the
cruise ship and he met her woman with her work
there and she said to her him as her the
husband and the wife. He said, because you were you know,
I'll try to become a citizen. You think you can
sign this document saying that you will support me when
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I came in and the guy signed it. So she
was and she wasn't illegal, but this guy signed a
document and she eventually got a prood to become a
citizen because of this guy. Another guy told me it's
called kangaroo or what they call it jumping citizenship, where
they can just they can have one person become a
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citizen and then they have their cousins come over their uncles.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Called it's called immigrants. It's called immigrant chain chain.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Right right, immigration. Yeah. Anyways, Like again, we got to
tighten up. We got to tighten up. We got to
know who was coming in the country.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
We want people to we want people to come here legally,
but we want them.
Speaker 10 (33:05):
To call here whatever. I will lucky to be. I
understand that. But you know, listen, where are we gonna go.
You can go back, you can go to Island. You're
a citizen of Island. I believe I got nowhere to go.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I don't like the tax rate over there. It's a
it's a pretty it's a tough tax rate. Hey, Phil,
thank you much, man. I appreciate your calling.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
You have a great one.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Good night, all right, take a quick break. I got
Paul in Southey coming up and Dave in Montreal.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (33:30):
Folks joined the conversation, and we were very short of
women callers tonight, which surprises me on this but that's okay. Uh,
some nights we have a preponderance of one or the other.
I'll throw the numbers out if you want to try
to give it, give it a shot. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten,
thirty six one, seven, nine thirty coming back on night Side.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 4 (33:59):
Okay, let's get them all in.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Paul in South Boston next to the Nice I go ahead, Paul,
you are on the air, Go right.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
Ahead, Hi, Dan, Nice to talk to you again.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Absolutely, Paul's what you're taking.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
All of this.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I'll be real quick, so I know you have some
of the calls you want to get in.
Speaker 7 (34:12):
But anyway, I just wanted to say that they all
have to go, even the ones that are not criminals.
This has been four years of talk. I live in
public housing, Dan, and people are taken away from resources
from people like me, and that's not right.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
It's not fair.
Speaker 7 (34:28):
I followed you for the last several years that you
were doing stories on illegal immigration here and it's discussed
and they're still coming. I've seen it today on YouTube.
A young lady with a new book like a year
old baby in her I'm and another one with a
seven year old and they're cutting to trying to get
to bar wire and the Marines had to push them,
you know, send them back. How can you risk hurting
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a little infant baby? But you can't let everybody in,
Dan do it the right way, like you say, and
that's how we want do it the right way. I
have no problem with immigrants. I have a problem with
the legal immigrant, but I also blame the government to
allow it to happen.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Well, not this administration at this point. So let's write
it with Biden.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
Yeah, let's give him a chance. Let's give him a chance,
and let's let's encourage the Trump administration to be transparent.
He just signed an executive order ordering everything about the
assassinations of JFK, RF and MLK. I say, hats off
to that. He's the first president who has done that,
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the only president who's done that. Let's treat the the
deportation of these ego immigrants with the same amount of.
Speaker 7 (35:46):
Transparency and one more them.
Speaker 11 (35:50):
Dan.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
Do you think the media is going to try to
destroy Trump to continue on this thing down the road eventually?
Speaker 3 (35:57):
I think the media has no clue, uh, particularly in
national media. I listened to some of the Sunday interview
talk shows. It's like their outrage, Well, how could this happen?
How could that happen? Yeah, wake up, they live in
they live in in in in gated communities. They're not
impacted by this. Uh and all they all they do
(36:19):
is virtue signal. That's all.
Speaker 7 (36:21):
Thank you Dan, Thanks Paul.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Appreciate it. Thought you soon. David, Montreal, Dave, welcome to Nightside.
How are you, sir?
Speaker 7 (36:28):
And I'm good.
Speaker 11 (36:29):
Thanks. I just wanted to say, as you know, I'm
in Montreal and we border are kind of the borders,
the US border, sure, USC and also we so we're
like a suburb of the United States, but we're you know,
everybody knows we're some of the British colony. And if
you guys were feeling no, no, but if you guys
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are feeling the impact of the immigrants, we would be
feeling it too. Where with in terms of crime, prostitution,
et cetera. The immigration situation has been going on for
one hundred years. It's so this thing about all of
a sudden, the immigration and they're coming to taking jobs,
they're killing people. Bernard Kirk, you're the police commissioner of
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New York. Had a nanny, I remember, and she was illegal.
And there's so many others out there that have nineties
and people working for them. You can't get rid of
everybody there's some good people in that miss mix. We're
just trying to get away from a bad situation, and
they have no.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
I don't know how much you listening to my show,
but no one is disputing that they are not good,
decent people in the mix. But there's there's three sets
of people here, Dave one. Immigrants who have come here
legally and are going through the process legally. I'm with
them all the way.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Then you have people who have come here illegally and
who are trying to function properly, but still come here
legally illegally. I got a problem with that because I
don't want them to be in front of people who
are waiting around the world to do the right thing.
And then we have illegals who have come here and
committed horrific crimes, including drug smuggling, murder, rape. I want them.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
I want them out of here yesterday.
Speaker 11 (38:19):
And I agree with you one hundred percent. But the
second example you gave are those are the people that
are most It sounds like those are the ones that
are here because those are the ones that are in
all over. I should say that they're trying to make
an impact and change their lives. If it was the
third Like you said, these people who were in here
doing crime, etc. Every major city would be inundated with
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huge crime from these guys. We're not talking.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
About major cities in America are inundated with crime. Go
to New York.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Go to New York and ride the subway, but don't
stand too close to the edge of the subway or
someone's going to push you in front of a moving train.
To go to Chicago and walk around on the South
Side some night and and good luck not getting shot.
Come on, Chicago is a free fire zone. It's more
dangerous to live in Chicago than to be on the
ground in the Middle East. As a US military personnel.
Speaker 11 (39:17):
I agree, but that's because they allowed it to get
out of hand for years and years and nobody did
it that nobody did anything. Those social programs generation it
becomes generation programs.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
What do you mean, no social progress? We get social programs.
Something ying Yang down here?
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Man?
Speaker 11 (39:32):
No, yes, what not? It's places like Chicago. It's a
lot of nonprofit. The government should have went in their
feet first and took over and put in some heavy
lip social programs in certain areas where they have something.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
The only people were more social programs than us are
the Canadians.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Dave and I don't know. It's tell that great. Let
me give you let me Dave like one more, Dave, Dave,
do me a favor. Have you called before? And a yeah?
Never called before?
Speaker 3 (40:03):
Well, first of all, a round the applause from my
studio audience.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
I got one other call I got to take. I
want you to call back more often, more frequently. We're
gonna have some great conversations, you and me. I mean
that honestly. Okay, okay, but.
Speaker 11 (40:21):
I love your soul, bro, because I listened to a
lot of the radio and you're the only one that's
out there. Who's who's you know, you're playing fields pretty
level doing That's that what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
I'm with you, and you will help me keep it
more level.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
Thank you, my friend. We will talk to you.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Okay, thanks all right, but thanks.
Speaker 3 (40:40):
A good one. Albert and Dorchester. Albert, we're very tight
on time. I'm not sure how much time we have left.
Maybe Rob will tell me, maybe he won't. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (40:50):
Hey?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Then? How you doing today?
Speaker 4 (40:53):
How much time? Rob? One minute? Okay, go ahead, Albert?
Speaker 1 (40:56):
Then I just wanna I just wanna say I wish
I had more time. Then I agree with you about Trisparency,
which I don't think it's gonna happen. I actually email
you with the copy of the Act of ninety six.
I'm sure you're yes, have.
Speaker 4 (41:11):
It in front of me as a matter of fact,
and I appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
We'll talk about that tomorrow night, and if you want
to call back tomorrow night, I'm going to read that
as well as the Cornell Law Review article that is
that's associated with it.
Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, I would, I would definitely. I'll definitely listen. I
listen to you every day. I will definitely call tomorrow
if you do talk about it because I wish I
had more time. Tarie. Yes, yeah, he's a problem.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Here's the problem, Albert. I'm flat out of time. Literally literally,
I'm going to read this article. Let's talk tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Okay, I will definitely call you lost, Thank you much.
Speaker 4 (41:47):
All right, We're done for the night.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
I want to thank Rob, I want to thank Maria
to want to thank all the callers. I'll be on
Facebook on Nightside with Dan Range just a couple of minutes.
All dogs, all cats, all pets go to Heaven. That's
why pel Charlie raids WI past fifteen years ago in February.
That's why your pets are who have passed. They loved you,
You love them. I do believe you'll see them again.
Stegain in the more night, everybody
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