February 5, 2025 • 40 mins
Gary Tanguay Fills In On NightSide with Dan Rea
Wednesday began mayoral candidate Josh Kraft’s first official day of campaigning. It appears that one of the biggest issues set to take center stage during this race is the topic of housing. Kraft already produced a slogan: “More housing. More opportunity.” We discussed how Boston’s mayoral race is already heating up!
*Josh Kraft will join Dan Rea on NightSide, Thursday February 6th at 9PM to discuss his campaign. *
This week a group of Nichols College students traveled to New Orleans to work at the Super Bowl! The students are part of a partnership between Nichols College and the NFL Super Bowl Host Committees, giving them hands-on experience in one of the world’s biggest sporting events. Nichols College Professor Dr. Christopher Streeter chatted with Gary about this unique experience!
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
Wednesday began mayoral candidate Josh Kraft’s first official day of campaigning. It appears that one of the biggest issues set to take center stage during this race is the topic of housing. Kraft already produced a slogan: “More housing. More opportunity.” We discussed how Boston’s mayoral race is already heating up!
*Josh Kraft will join Dan Rea on NightSide, Thursday February 6th at 9PM to discuss his campaign. *
This week a group of Nichols College students traveled to New Orleans to work at the Super Bowl! The students are part of a partnership between Nichols College and the NFL Super Bowl Host Committees, giving them hands-on experience in one of the world’s biggest sporting events. Nichols College Professor Dr. Christopher Streeter chatted with Gary about this unique experience!
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WVS, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good News, good news, good news, good news.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Dance back tomorrow night, Big Show Tomorrow night with the
Big Dog returning in the house. Josh Kraft the smartest
of the Craft brothers. Don't tell Jonathan and Danny. I
said that, okay, but they might agree with it.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Josh Kraft will be on with Dan Ray tomorrow night
on Night Side.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Who is running against Michelle Woo And I'm very happy
to have Gail colleague cover city Hall for the Herald.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That is a gig. Gail, that is a gig. I
mean covering Boston City Hall. First of all, before we
get into this mayor race, you have to tell me
what that job is like.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I mean, it's great. See always something going on.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You got nothing else, You got no juice, you got nothing,
no crazy stories.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I mean you know.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I mean this which I have of City Hall is
just all of these Bostonian characters walking around making back
room deals, chomping on cigars.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
No, that's not it.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I mean that goes on. I don't think you have
enough time on the show to get into it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh believe me, I do, trust me, trust me, I've
been around long enough.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
But I find this race fascinating because, like I've said before,
I know the crafts.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I covered them in sports. I like them.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I like the family. I like what they've done for
the area. I like Josh Kraft. I like what he's
done for the area. I don't know Michelle Wou. She's
obviously very smart. I mean, that's the thing in a
day and age when we have a president who is well, look,
I mean, either you're with them or against them. There's
noe in the middle, but not necessarily known for his
(01:51):
education or his decorum. You have two people running for
the office of mayor that have pretty impressive resumes. I mean,
have we ever had this, I mean we're talking about
graduate degrees, we're talking about Harvard, We're talking about I mean, nbas.
Have we ever had candidates with this type of that
have been disintelligent?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I mean, from what I've seen so far, this is
getting off to a fiery start. Both candidates come out
and came out firing yesterday. They're unconscious at each other verbally.
So it'll be a good race.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think so too.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But again, the intellect I mean with these two, I
just generally when I look at Parlato, maybe it's just
my view of politicians where I go, Okay, this person's
not very smart. They just like to talk a lot.
These are very smart people, And I also don't think
there's a big difference between the two.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
So from what I gathered yesterday with Josh Craft's campaign speech,
a lot of what he's proposing are things that he
said the mayor who has failed at so I things
that he's proposing, like brant control. Those are policies that
she's tried to pass get passed in the past and
has run into a roadblock with the legislature. So similar
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seemed to be left leaning Democrats.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Well yeah, I mean, here's a guy in Josh who
donated money to Michelle Woo's campaign, I mean in the past.
So I mean, is there a difference between the two
or is it simply that Josh is saying the mayor
hasn't been able to They have the same agenda, but
the mayor hasn't been able to accomplish it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And he can.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
So I think that's what he focused on in his
speech when he was rolling out his agenda. Just a
lot of the areas that the mayor has failed to
get her policies passed. Yeah, so, I mean, I guess
time will tell whether there's major differences, but right now
it seems to be going where she hasn't get things done.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Now, one of the things that just said, as opposed
to being appointed, he wanted certain board members or select
people to be elected as opposed to being appoorted appointed?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Can you explain that?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Right? So? Right now, the Boston School Committee is an
appointed school committee by the mayor, and he is a
Josh Kraft is calling for a partially elected school committee.
So the mix of appointed and elected members, how.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Do you do partially?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Can you? And I don't get that, can't you? Isn't
it just one of the other? What do you say? Well,
there are five seats, and two are going to be
elected by the public, three are going to be appointed
by the mayor, right so.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
You would have certain members who are appointed, and then
you would have certain members who are up for election.
Right now, that's what he's proposing.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I don't get the point of that. To me, you
would do one or the other. And here's the other thing.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Maybe in Boston it would be different. But electing for
school committee? Do people leave it?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Do people even follow it? Would people even know who
they're voting for?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I mean that's the argument is that there you would
foster more engagement if you have school commnies up for election.
I mean, I would think that there's more engagement from
parents and on that level. But as far as the
larger community, I guess that would that would be seen
(05:27):
with a voter turnout with an election of it if
it turns out to be he's proposing a de selectioned mayor.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Do you think the fact that Josh is a billionaire,
I mean, it's his dad, it's the team. I mean,
we know Josh had worked at the Boys and Girls Club.
He is his mother's son, Missus Craft, who was very philanthropic.
Does that hurt him?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
He says that it won't. He says that he is
someone who's very involved with community with the Boys and
Girls Club. He's also board chair of the organization That's
Space in Rocks Barry that does community based work. And
he also played up his position with the New Midland
Patriots Foundation, which is his family's philanthropic arm. He also
(06:08):
had a line in his campaign launch that he likes
to say that he wasn't born on third base, that
he was born at home with his privileges. Well he
was yeah, money and his family yeah yeah. So I
think he's trying to try to take the focus away
from his family's wealth, and he's saying that he's somebody
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who's been involved with the community, although he does have
the privilege of being born into, you know, family where
his father's billionaire.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Look, I've had coffee with the guy. I've talked to
people who know him to me, and I don't have
a horse in the face. I don't live in Boston.
I'm not going to vote. Michelle Woo was obviously a
very smart woman and a very accomplished woman. I mean
she is you can't look look, and but I don't.
I also think it's tough to get things done when.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
The mayor of Boston.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I think it's tough to deliver on all your promises
once you get into the political office.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But this I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
You know, to me, if I'm running Josh's campaign, the
fact that he worked at the Boys and Girls Club
and just brought it to a whole new level, and
from what I've heard, when he's in meetings, brings so
much to so much to the table with his ideology,
in his in his strategies. I mean, this guy could
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have been playing polo in West Palm, you know, I
mean he doesn't. He doesn't have to be, you know,
working in soup kitchens and going around, you know, to
the homeless shelters and going into East Boston and building
up the Boys and Girls club and working in an
office with four or five other people. You know, he
doesn't have to do that. To me, that's a plus,
(07:45):
don't you think?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Well, I mean that's the way his campaign is is
is framing his his background is that he could have
joined if you watched his campaign video that came out
day before he made his campaign speech, that Josh Kraft
could have joined his family's business and instead of taking
(08:09):
the community based route. So they are they are making
that pitch for him.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, I mean, but again, does that mean he'd be
a better mayor than than Maywoul?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't know, you know, I I I who knows?
So let's talk.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So if so, what are the pros of Josh Kraft
in your opinion? And then we'll get to Maylwu.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
I mean, I would just repeat. What has came in
is saying so far is that he's saying that he's
someone who can get things done where the mayor hasn't.
He's saying that she is zero for three on her
three of her major campaign promises, and that he would
succeed where she failed with rent control, and that he's
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someone who's more connected to the community, and that he's
more willing to listen to people. And he's framed the
mayor as someone who's a leader who doesn't listen. So
I think that's I think those are the positives that
his campaign is pitching. But I mean, I would have
to keep following through his campaign. I don't really want
(09:15):
to say what you know, I don't really have a
thought on what I think his major positives are. Just
what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Correct, that's what he's saying. I understand you want to
remain objective.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I mean rent control and bosh, that's a tough I mean,
people want to move into the city and pay two
million dollars for like a thousand square feet in the
right area. I mean, rank control is a hard thing
to pass in the city with real estate being so high.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Correct, right, I mean it's it's something that has encountered
resistance from landlords who say that, you know, they're hit
with inflation and that this would further hurt them financially.
So it's something that the mayor has proposed and that
he's run into roadblocks in the legislature. Is what her
(10:03):
argument is, and she've repeated that today on one of
her podcast appearances, is that it's easier for her opponents
to make promises, but you know, there's a process that
you have to go through.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Okay, Gail Collier is our guest Boston here, Garrett, can
you stick around for one more segment now, I want
to talk about Mayri Wu in her campaign. Sure, Okay,
Gail joins us.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Next.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
We just talked about I think it's going to be
fascinating because they're already very.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Smart people people.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I think that when it comes to their ideology is
pretty much the same. Just one is saying that he
can do it better than her, and they're not afraid
to go after each other, which should be interesting. We
will continue the conversation next on WBC's Nightside.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Ed Welcome, back Gary Tangway for Dan roy tonight, and
Gael Collier is joined us cover City Hall for the
Boston Herald and maybe somedays she'll write a tell all book.
Oh if the walls of Boston City Hall could talk.
Josh Kraft running for mayor against Michelle Wou will join
Dan Ray on Nightside coming up Tomorrow night, Thursday, February
(11:18):
February sixth.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yes, we know that Gary tomorrow night right here on WBZ.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
That's at nine o'clock, so you can't miss it, and
you can also check it out on the iHeartRadio app.
Download it and if you can't listen to it live
at nine, just go to the iHeart app and you'll
be able to click it on.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And listen to it at your convenience. So that should
be very good.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
All right, let's talk about Meriwoo. So what has she
done well? What will they focus on as opposed to
obviously what the Craft campaign is.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Going to focus on is what she hasn't done well?
What will her her spiel be?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Well?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I think she would folks on, which is interesting because
this is where Josh Craft is seeing her as being vulnerable.
But I think she would focus on the strides that
she's made or that she says she's made with affordable housing,
building more housing, which is what he's saying, that she
(12:21):
has developed roadblocks to development. Yeah, so you have that
back and forth. I I mean, I would think that
she would focus on just what she's done with helping
reduce congestion in the city. She's focused on bike lines
(12:42):
and other area that he sees her as vulnerable, and
just efforts to make Boston more environmentally friendly with her
climate initiatives. So I would I would think that she
would focus on some of those things.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I have no problem with bike lanes. I have problems
with bikers.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It happened to me the other day.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I'm getting a living off topic, and if I have
a chance to talk to Joshua meyerwill I will tell
her this. It's okay to use a bike lane, but
when a cyclist are you a cyclist?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
By the way, I'm a virtual cyclist. They have an exercise, Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
So I understand, you sit there and you look at
the pretty screen, and you go through the mountains and
you know you're gonna be in you know, yeah, yeah,
you're hand in Hawaii one minute. British Columbia the next
I got you. So, but I'm driving down the road
the other day and I'm stopped. So I have a
cyclist that weaves in and out of the traffic and
then goes through a red light.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
That's illegal. You can't do it. Which is it? You
have your own lane? Are you gonna be a car
or not be a car?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
One or the other. It pisses me off. You have
the bike lane? Have the bike lanes worked, because to me,
I don't know if they have. I see a lot
of congestion. I see a lot of available auto real
estate that goes to a bike lane that I can
look at for a half hour and I never see
it used.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
So I mean, there's certainly something that has caused a
lot of debate among cyclists and non cyclists. So if
you're a cyclist, you love them. But if you're someone
who drives or is trying to get around in a
different way, you probably don't love them best.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
But the problem is Gale is we can't keep everybody happy.
I mean, you know, okay, next thing, you know, we're
gonna have a lane for skateboarders. Okay, let's have a
lane for skateboarders. Let's do that do we want to
do that, then we'll have a We already have sidewalks,
have a lane for skateboards.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The reality is is that.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
A bike is a vehicle, and uh, you should just
follow the ruts in the road, rules of the road
like you do an automobile. That's what they do. They
follow the rules of the road of the automobile and
as if they're a pedestrian and galic pisses me off.
I'm sorry I got off topic. So now getting back
to the topic at hand, the mayor's race. With what
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Josh is saying, and with the intellect, with the financial
backing that Josh Kraft has, he's still considered an underdog
by how much considerable underdog? Is he going to be
able to make it close?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I mean? I think that's what makes it interesting is
that he's someone who's considered to be a potentially formadal
opponent to the mayor. But it is Boston. No incumbent
mayor has lost since nineteen forty nine in Boston, and uh,
the mayor right now has considerable campaigns on She's over
one point seven million. She is someone who's considered to
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be popular as a progressive. So I think that, you know,
he certainly has a lot of resources, he has connections
to the community through his connection with the Boys and
Girls Club, and it'll I think it'll be interesting. I
can't say for sure, like what the percentage is that
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he is an underdog or how he will do, but
I think that he's someone who could preside to challenge
and if he didn't think that, I don't think he
would be running.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well, here's what I think.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
This is the way I look at it as again,
as a suburbanite from the outside looking in, I think
Joshua about the same age.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I think.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I also feel as if if he's going to run,
he's going to do it now, at this point in
time of his life, right, So I think that's the
driving force. Maybe Dan, I'm sure we'll ask him about that.
Why are you running now tomorrow night at nine right
here on WBC. I'm sure they'll do that then, So
you have I think that's what's driving the timing. I
don't think people are necessarily pissed off at Michelle wou
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that's the issue. I mean they are. I mean, she's
very likable. When I see her on the news, I
go I like her. I would like to be your friend.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
She seems to.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
And let's face you, when it comes down to electability,
it comes down a likable you know. I mean people
say they vote on the issues. They don't vote on
the issues.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
They vote on.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I like that person better. That's really good. That's how
people get elected. Right now, the country, the country likes
Trump better everything he says, he lies all the time.
It doesn't matter. People just like him better for whatever reason.
For some reason, he brings comfort to the country, and
that's why they elected him.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It's not going to be an issue thing.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So I think the challenge that Josh has is it's
not like people are like trying to ouse Michelle wou.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Right.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I mean, I yeah, it's definitely how you see it.
If you're a supporter, don't. I don't think you see
it that way. I would think I think that Josh
Kraft is running a campaign based on vulnerabilities that he
sees there. But I think certainly, you know, I was
at an event that the mayor was out the other day,
and she was very well received in a senior center
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in Dorchester that was located near where Craft made his
campaign's future earlier. The day. So she's she's definitely well
received in the community spaces from more than at her events.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I'm going to put you on the spot. I don't
know if you know this, but when it comes to
municipal races in Boston, what does the voter turnout like?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
It's it was low in the last race.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, that's the thing. People are so damn apathetic. Yeah,
I mean, maybe maybe this will fire them up because
obviously they're tossing I don't want to say tossing bombs
at each other, but I mean Michelle Mayor wu came out, man,
she did not hold back on Josh. She came out,
and there it's I would say it's a highly intellectual
(18:47):
boxing match. It's a highly intellectual verbal boxing matches. What
we have between those two.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Is there going to be a debate?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
There hasn't been one scheduled yet, but I would I
would think there was at least one debate in the least.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I mean, I'm telling you, if I'm any of the
local television stations, I want that debate because I mean,
what do you think that would be a pretty cool debate?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I mean, those what's that I'm sorry?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
What?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:14):
And I think what you're getting at is, judging from
the follies, stay throughout each other yesterday, probably be very
good debate.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It'd be fantastic because it would also be smart.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
You know, it would be it would be funny, it
would be there would be some sarcasm, but they're also
two smart people. I mean, it's just not like we've
seen in the presidential race tossing insults and making making
I almost swore there, but almost making stuff up. You know,
it would be a good debate. Well, listen, I really
appreciate you coming on, Gail. Good luck at the Harrows
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they had my friends over there. Good luck covering city Hall.
And maybe someday you'll write a tell all book on
what goes on behind the doors of city Hall and
we'll have you on to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Okay, great, Thanks for having Gail.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Take care.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Gail Collins joining us here for the Austin Harold talking
about the mayor race between Josh Craft and Mayor Michelle
wou And she hasn't officially announced it, but I think
she's got it right by the way she's been digging
at Josh. I. You know, Boston politics is always fun
when you take a look at the mayor's and the
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politicians that we've had in this city just from pure entertainment,
going back to Tip O'Neil.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Just you know, Bill Woller was a great speaker. I
mean just.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And even I know some people look at some of
the Boston politicians is.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Maybe not the most above board.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Individuals, but generally they're funny and they can talk, and
they can they can be very entertaining, and I think
we're going to have an entertaining race between these two.
All Right'm gonna switch gears working the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
How about this?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Some students from Nichols College are at the super Bowl working.
Now that's a course I want to take. We will
talk to their professor. Coming up next on night Side
on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It's Night Side on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Okay, welcome back, Gary and for Dana Knightside again tomorrow
night nine o'clock.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Josh Kraft running.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
From mayor against Mayor Michelle Woo will be joining Dan
Ray in a camp miss interview right here on WBZ
and just Heart Dan talking about it. If you miss
it at nine, just go to the iHeart ad go
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Nightside on Demand, Rob helping me out. I just punched
Knightside of pops up by Nightside on Demand and you
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can listen to that interview, so they'll have that tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Okay. Joining us right now from New Orleans is.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
A Nickel College professor, Christopher Steele, and he's got a
group of students that have gone down to the Super
Bowl to work as part of the NFL host committee.
Professor Streeter, I said Steele. I meant, Streeter, Chris, how
are you welcome to Night's Side?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Doing great? Thanks so much for having right.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, how's it going down there?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
It's so far, so good. Where we've made it safely.
We're we're settled into our what we term is our
super Bowl mansion that we've rented, and we're in the
trenches here with the NFL and our first night.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
All right, first night, we'll see how many kids break curfew.
Talk to me tomorrow and bedcheck. Anyways, I've been to
nine Super Bowls. Not bragging, even though it does sound
like I'm bragging. I'm good. I don't need to go
to another one. I'm good.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It's a zoo, it is Mayhem, and you know, By.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
The time I got like to the eighth or night,
I was like, oh my god, this is just I
got to get out of here. What is it like
for the kids? And tell us about this program and
how this came about.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, I don't think you couldn't You couldn't have said
it any better. It's mayhem, it's it's it's chaos. But
you know, it's a celebration of sport and it's a
elevation of sport in America. And uh, you know, we
live in a country where we're able to to run
these events, and uh, the Louisiana State Police and the
local law enforcement have done a great job. Given the
(23:13):
New Year's Eve, h New Year's tragedy, they've done a
wonderful job of really making the place feel safe and secure.
And there's a there's a huge presence and lots of
checkpoints and barriers and uh so yeah, you know it
is it is a controlled chaos. But uh but uh,
you know, a horrific thing to be a part of,
(23:33):
in particularly obviously for our students.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, so what do you want these students to learn?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And what is there major like sports management or travel
and leisure recreation. What do they need to get out
of this and what exactly are they doing for jobs?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Uh, yeah, all great questions. They're all sport management majors
at in our Sport Management and department at Nichols. You know,
the big picture is to really to inspire them, to
show them that this industry we call sport, there's so
many options, there's there's so many possibilities for them. And
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really the idea for me big pictures for them to
walk away just feeling inspired and excited about their potential
for future in sport and to work in the industry.
To a three credit class, so they're earning some credits. They're
being paid by the NFL at the same time, so
they're earning a few bucks. We'll work about fifty hours
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for the NFL this week, wow, and the week leading
up to the super Bowl. Right now, for example, we're
working what's called the Super Bowl Experience, which is a
huge fan festival here in downtown New Orleans, and we
do a variety of jobs. We run all of the
activation events for the fans, and there's autograph booths and
signings and a variety of jobs that they assign us
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when we arrive for each of our shifts and ultimately,
you know, the short term is to put theory into practice.
So in the classroom before we travel, we study the
economics of the Super Bowl, sponsorship, advertisements, pride of Country,
the emergence of the halftime show, a variety of things
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super Bowl related and sport related in our country. And
the idea here is to put it into practice a
little bit for them and we, Nicholas, we call that
experiential learning.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Well, I agree one hundred percent with it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I todd On Emerson over the past year, and whenever
I had an opportunity to bring in speakers or to
promote hands on learning.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
That's the only way you can do it. You can
only do so much out of a book.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I mean, I was able even to take some students
into a production truck, you know, of an NBA game
because some of them wanted to be directors. So I said,
all right, well let's get to it. Let's go in
and see what you need to do. Because theory is great,
but you need to be able to put that theory
in action. And the people that I have met that
work in sports management or sports marketing and what I'm
going to basically in the sports arena, which is really
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entertainment now. I mean, Chris, it has become so huge,
so massive, there's so much money in sports that it's
also when when it comes to the media, the NFL
has its own media arm. You know, before it was
always like, well the Globe and the Herald, they go
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cover the Patriots and that's it. That's not the case anymore.
I mean, the NFL is just this trillion dollar industry,
and especially with social media and with the way we communicate,
there are now more opportunities for people to get involved
in sports management than ever before.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I would write, I mean the numbers must back that
up absolutely.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Social media has has certainly grown exponentially in the last
twenty years, and there's a variety of opportunities for students.
And that's their world, that's the world that they've grown
up in, and so it's second nature to them. And
the idea is to channel that knowledge and channel that
energy into a more sport focused direction. Joke that you know,
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God used to own Sundays, but now the NFL does,
and the other's there. My argument might be that the
NFL owns all seventies of the week now in our country,
and but you know, there's a tremendous opportunities for students,
and it's my job to expose them to some of
those wonderful opportunities.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, i'll tell you the NFL right now, I think
blows away the Olympics, and at one point in time
it was all about the Olympics. I think internationally, it's soccer.
It's the World Cup, and it's the Super Bowl. That's it.
Those are the two big kahunas. I keep hearing that
soccer is still number one, or European football. I don't
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know if you haven't any numbers on that, but that
seems to be the case.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Well, it's certainly the world's most popular sport outside of America.
It's the global reach of the sport of soccer is significant.
NASCAR is actually the number one rated spectator sport in
terms of actual fan attendance. But I think in terms
of popularity and branding, the NFL has done such a
magnificent job of branding their league so that it's visible
(28:10):
year round. I mean, they have events that run literally
year round that fans tune into. So even in the offseason,
we have the Draft and the Pro Bowl and the
different awards ceremonies and the Hall of Fame inductions, and
it's a twelve month out of the year branding machine
and they've they've mastered it and continue to master it.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Nickel College professor Chris Steelers with us, Doctor Chris Steele,
Chris Streeter, god Man tangle, you're having a bad night. Anyways,
We're going to continue to talk to Chris from New Orleans.
Get some more thoughts on how it feels he feels
about the Big Game, the impact, the gambling, the economics,
and should the Super Bowl just be held in New
Orleans every year. That's all coming up on wbz's Night Side.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ Indio.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
From Nichols College, doctor Chris Streeter is with us talking
about what I think is a terrific program where he
has taken his students down of the Super Bowl and
they get hands on experience, boots on the ground working
with the NFL, experience working with the NFL as a business,
not being there in fans. And one of the things
Chris is that I can tell your students is that
(29:23):
when you work in sports, it's not a job, it's
a career.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's something you love.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
You don't look at the clock, you don't punch the clock,
and when you start out you don't make any money,
but you do it because you absolutely love it. And
that's why I think it's terrific with what you're doing.
So now let's get into some of the details down
there on what's happening and just your thoughts on the
economics of the super Bowl. What does has it continued
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to increase what a super Bowl can do for a city,
has it had any negative impact at all? Or does
it just continue to have a city Moorlands just make
more and more money.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, great questions. I don't I think the positive certainly
far outweigh the negatives. There is a myth that the
super Bowl generates hundreds of millions of dollars for host cities,
and there is some truth to that, but you know,
the flip side of that is a lot of that
money leaves. So if you talk to an economist, they're
going to say that hundreds of million dollars probably is inaccurate,
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although that's typically what what gets reported. Now, there is
obviously some economic benefits to the area with the influx
of people, but again Conversely, money that's being spent here
during the super Bowl week may be displaced because that
money may have been spent elsewhere, or the money that
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is spent here goes back to corporate headquarters somewhere in
another part of the country, and so it doesn't end
up staying here in New Orleans anyway. But the benefits
far outweigh the negatives. This is New Orleans eleventh time
hosting the super Bowl, and so clearly they see value
in it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Should New Orleans host the Super Bowl every year? Because
I think it should.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
It's a pretty cool city. We had an opportunity here
today to drive through the French Quarter and to see
it during the day because we arrived pretty much in
darkness last night. And it's it's another planet. It's in
a good way. It's you know, and they do it.
They do a really good job. There is there is
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something to be said about Southern hospitality.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
People here. That's what they do. Very friendly.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I mean, because they they want to. They basically host
a Super Bowl three hundred and sixty five days a year.
They are set up to do it. They do it
better than anybody else. Now I have been to God,
I've lost track I was in Indianapolis, I was in
Houston twice. Jacksonville what a disaster. I don't know if
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you remember when they had the Super Bowl bull in Jacksonville.
But in order for the Jags to improve their stadium,
which is a talk about putting perfume on a pig, right,
they send us to Jacksonville and they said we're going
to bring in They didn't have enough hotels. They did
not have enough hotels. I mean, if you're telling me
you could put a Super Bowl in Jacksonville, why not
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put it in Springfield for Christ's sake?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Or Providence. That's what you're talking about. And Providence is
a great city.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I'm not gonna at all, but that's the type of
size you're seeing jackson Plus, the food in Providence is phenomenal.
The food in Jacksonville sucked. I was literally with my
camera crew and the restaurant ran out of food. They
ran out of food in Jacksonville. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
An how certainly, Yeah, the infrastructure certainly is an important component.
You know, we have a sport event management class in
our program and here at Nichols, and we spend a
lot of time talking about the logistics of how to
run an event, and the event itself. The actual sport
is almost secondary because if the infrastructure for the event
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isn't in place, as you mentioned, it has the potential
to be disastrous.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Oh, the game is secondary because the game just runs itself. Well,
you know when the game starts. I mean, that's what
people that's what people who have worked all week just collapse.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Now, Indy wasn't bad, the Indy, but but they didn't
have enough restaurants. The facility in Indy was phenomenal. I
mean the fieldhouse they had there. That was an unbelievable stadium.
That was a great place. That was that that was tremendous.
Atlanta Atlanta was and Atlanta wasn't great, but it should be.
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It just should be in New Orleans. Vi yea Detroit.
Thank god I didn't have to go to Detroit. That's
the last place I wanted to go. I'll tell you
that right now.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
When we've run the program four times, We've done Miami
two years ago, we were in Phoenix. Last year we
brought students to Vegas, and of course this year in
New Orleans. The Phoenix and Vegas trips were both really
well run. The challenge with Phoenix is the fan festivals
were in downtown Phoenix, and then of course the stadium
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events are in Glendale, fifteen miles away, and so logistically
that was a little bit of a challenge last year
in Vegas for our students, everything was in one place.
The entire campus of the super Bowl, the whole sports gape,
the area surrounding Allegiant Stadium was all part of Vegas.
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But interestingly enough, it almost didn't feel last year that
the Super Bowl was anything special in Vegas because it
was like, it's just another event, but it's another bright
light among many, and so that was an interesting dynamic
to our experience last year.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, Phoenix, when you're when you're in Vegas, you have
a lot of competition.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Even you like if you have heavyweight fights there, you
know you're competing with Adele who's in residency down the
street or whoever at that particular time. But Vegas, like
New Orleans, is probably set up for it. I forgot.
I was in Phoenix for a couple of them, and
it was a pain in the ass. I listen to me,
I'm decently being a whiny media member. Having a lot
(35:19):
of activities in Phoenix and having me to go out
to the facility fifty miles away as a real pain
in the neck. But I'll tell you what, that stadium
in Phoenix in Glendale was amazing, I mean amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Sure, yeah, sure, State Farm it is amazing. And Allegiance
last year was amazing. And we'll be at the Superdome
tomorrow for some training and some work over there, and
so we're the students and I are really looking forward
to that.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
How does gambling enter into your curriculum?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
You know, I, personally, as a sport management college for
I don't touch a whole lot on it. I I
just I'm not convinced on the value of it. I
am not convinced on the benefit for it in our society,
and so I don't spend a lot of time talking
about it in our curriculum. Inevitably, I will probably expand
(36:19):
on it in future semesters, but right now, we we
gloss over it. We talk a little bit about it
in our discussion about fan engagement, in our discussion about economics. Uh,
it obviously and inevitably comes up and as part of
those discussions. But I just I'm not. On a personal note,
(36:43):
I'm just not sure the value of the gambling industry,
and especially dealing with with young adults and college students,
and you know, a click of the button can get
them in big trouble these days, and and and and
so that's for me. It's it's touchy territory that I
don't dive in to a whole heck of a lot.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Well, I think your position is admirable, but as it's
here and there's nothing we can do about it, I
agree with everything you said. But my first day of
class at Everson, a young man who raised his hand
asked me if I thought a certain wide receiver would
have more than fifty eight yards and two touchdowns this
weekend because he was on DraftKings right first day of class. Okay,
(37:26):
and that's what I realized. It's here, and I brought
in some people from DraftKings. The one thing I could
tell you is that if you're in the media, you
need to know it. You need to know it. It's everywhere.
If you're in the media, you have to understand how
it works. You have to went because I had my
students go through I said, tell me in one day,
(37:49):
write down everything that you consume when it comes to sports,
and it was you know, podcasts and DraftKings. There's those
shipment I mean draft and they just consume it constantly.
One of the reasons, Like on a Sunday I said, okay,
I want you guys to have a diary.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
What did you do for football? Well, they watched their
favorite team.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
They watched the Patriots for one game, then they watched
the second game. Because they're putting money on it. I mean,
it's here. You're absolutely right. It's a slippery slope, dude.
It is a slippery slope, but it's here. And if
you're in the business, you have to understand it. That's
the problem. Like, that's the problem you're in is you
don't want to encourage it.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
But if you're going to be in the sports business, because.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
How the NFL, I mean everybody's in and everybody's in
on it.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, Ultimately, it is a business and DraftKings is a
company and the NFL is a company ultimately at the
end of the day, and it's about revenue generation and
you know, but it comes back to the idea of
entertainment that you mentioned earlier. You know, sport certainly is entertainment.
And the million dollar question is what is the balance
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between enjoying sport for sport and then being a loyal
fan just to be a loyal fan and versus I'm
a loyal fan if there's some money involved.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I'll tell you, Chris.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
That ended with fantasy because when I would sit there
and watch a game and then somebody would say, Oh,
my team's losing, ooh, but my fantasy guy is winning,
I was like, Okay, it's over Barmageddon. Listening to Jordan Orleans,
doctor Chris Streeter Christia was a camera guy. I worked
with a Channel fifty six one hundred years ago, so
I apologize.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
That's okay. He sounds terrific.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Oh the best, great guy, Doctor Chris Streeter Nichols College. Congratulations.
I hope you guys have a great time. You're on
the right track. Experience, experience, experience, and have a good time.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I appreciate it. Thank you. Okay.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
Good News, good news, good news, good news.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Dance back tomorrow night, Big Show Tomorrow night with the
Big Dog returning in the house. Josh Kraft the smartest
of the Craft brothers. Don't tell Jonathan and Danny. I
said that, okay, but they might agree with it.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Josh Kraft will be on with Dan Ray tomorrow night
on Night Side.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Who is running against Michelle Woo And I'm very happy
to have Gail colleague cover city Hall for the Herald.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Boy.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
That is a gig. Gail, that is a gig. I
mean covering Boston City Hall. First of all, before we
get into this mayor race, you have to tell me
what that job is like.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
I mean, it's great. See always something going on.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
You got nothing else, You got no juice, you got nothing,
no crazy stories.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I mean you know.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
I mean this which I have of City Hall is
just all of these Bostonian characters walking around making back
room deals, chomping on cigars.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
No, that's not it.
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I mean that goes on. I don't think you have
enough time on the show to get into it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh believe me, I do, trust me, trust me, I've
been around long enough.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I do.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
But I find this race fascinating because, like I've said before,
I know the crafts.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
I covered them in sports. I like them.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
I like the family. I like what they've done for
the area. I like Josh Kraft. I like what he's
done for the area. I don't know Michelle Wou. She's
obviously very smart. I mean, that's the thing in a
day and age when we have a president who is well, look,
I mean, either you're with them or against them. There's
noe in the middle, but not necessarily known for his
(01:51):
education or his decorum. You have two people running for
the office of mayor that have pretty impressive resumes. I mean,
have we ever had this, I mean we're talking about
graduate degrees, we're talking about Harvard, We're talking about I mean, nbas.
Have we ever had candidates with this type of that
have been disintelligent?
Speaker 5 (02:13):
I mean, from what I've seen so far, this is
getting off to a fiery start. Both candidates come out
and came out firing yesterday. They're unconscious at each other verbally.
So it'll be a good race.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think so too.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But again, the intellect I mean with these two, I
just generally when I look at Parlato, maybe it's just
my view of politicians where I go, Okay, this person's
not very smart. They just like to talk a lot.
These are very smart people, And I also don't think
there's a big difference between the two.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
So from what I gathered yesterday with Josh Craft's campaign speech,
a lot of what he's proposing are things that he
said the mayor who has failed at so I things
that he's proposing, like brant control. Those are policies that
she's tried to pass get passed in the past and
has run into a roadblock with the legislature. So similar
(03:09):
seemed to be left leaning Democrats.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Well yeah, I mean, here's a guy in Josh who
donated money to Michelle Woo's campaign, I mean in the past.
So I mean, is there a difference between the two
or is it simply that Josh is saying the mayor
hasn't been able to They have the same agenda, but
the mayor hasn't been able to accomplish it.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
And he can.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
So I think that's what he focused on in his
speech when he was rolling out his agenda. Just a
lot of the areas that the mayor has failed to
get her policies passed. Yeah, so, I mean, I guess
time will tell whether there's major differences, but right now
it seems to be going where she hasn't get things done.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Now, one of the things that just said, as opposed
to being appointed, he wanted certain board members or select
people to be elected as opposed to being appoorted appointed?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Can you explain that?
Speaker 5 (04:13):
Right? So? Right now, the Boston School Committee is an
appointed school committee by the mayor, and he is a
Josh Kraft is calling for a partially elected school committee.
So the mix of appointed and elected members, how.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Do you do partially?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Can you? And I don't get that, can't you? Isn't
it just one of the other? What do you say? Well,
there are five seats, and two are going to be
elected by the public, three are going to be appointed
by the mayor, right so.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
You would have certain members who are appointed, and then
you would have certain members who are up for election.
Right now, that's what he's proposing.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I don't get the point of that. To me, you
would do one or the other. And here's the other thing.
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Maybe in Boston it would be different. But electing for
school committee? Do people leave it?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
No?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Do people even follow it? Would people even know who
they're voting for?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
I mean that's the argument is that there you would
foster more engagement if you have school commnies up for election.
I mean, I would think that there's more engagement from
parents and on that level. But as far as the
larger community, I guess that would that would be seen
(05:27):
with a voter turnout with an election of it if
it turns out to be he's proposing a de selectioned mayor.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Do you think the fact that Josh is a billionaire,
I mean, it's his dad, it's the team. I mean,
we know Josh had worked at the Boys and Girls Club.
He is his mother's son, Missus Craft, who was very philanthropic.
Does that hurt him?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
So?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
He says that it won't. He says that he is
someone who's very involved with community with the Boys and
Girls Club. He's also board chair of the organization That's
Space in Rocks Barry that does community based work. And
he also played up his position with the New Midland
Patriots Foundation, which is his family's philanthropic arm. He also
(06:08):
had a line in his campaign launch that he likes
to say that he wasn't born on third base, that
he was born at home with his privileges. Well he
was yeah, money and his family yeah yeah. So I
think he's trying to try to take the focus away
from his family's wealth, and he's saying that he's somebody
(06:29):
who's been involved with the community, although he does have
the privilege of being born into, you know, family where
his father's billionaire.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Look, I've had coffee with the guy. I've talked to
people who know him to me, and I don't have
a horse in the face. I don't live in Boston.
I'm not going to vote. Michelle Woo was obviously a
very smart woman and a very accomplished woman. I mean
she is you can't look look, and but I don't.
I also think it's tough to get things done when.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
The mayor of Boston.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
I think it's tough to deliver on all your promises
once you get into the political office.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
But this I can tell you.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
You know, to me, if I'm running Josh's campaign, the
fact that he worked at the Boys and Girls Club
and just brought it to a whole new level, and
from what I've heard, when he's in meetings, brings so
much to so much to the table with his ideology,
in his in his strategies. I mean, this guy could
(07:23):
have been playing polo in West Palm, you know, I
mean he doesn't. He doesn't have to be, you know,
working in soup kitchens and going around, you know, to
the homeless shelters and going into East Boston and building
up the Boys and Girls club and working in an
office with four or five other people. You know, he
doesn't have to do that. To me, that's a plus,
(07:45):
don't you think?
Speaker 5 (07:48):
Well, I mean that's the way his campaign is is
is framing his his background is that he could have
joined if you watched his campaign video that came out
day before he made his campaign speech, that Josh Kraft
could have joined his family's business and instead of taking
(08:09):
the community based route. So they are they are making
that pitch for him.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, I mean, but again, does that mean he'd be
a better mayor than than Maywoul?
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I don't know, you know, I I I who knows?
So let's talk.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So if so, what are the pros of Josh Kraft
in your opinion? And then we'll get to Maylwu.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
I mean, I would just repeat. What has came in
is saying so far is that he's saying that he's
someone who can get things done where the mayor hasn't.
He's saying that she is zero for three on her
three of her major campaign promises, and that he would
succeed where she failed with rent control, and that he's
(08:55):
someone who's more connected to the community, and that he's
more willing to listen to people. And he's framed the
mayor as someone who's a leader who doesn't listen. So
I think that's I think those are the positives that
his campaign is pitching. But I mean, I would have
to keep following through his campaign. I don't really want
(09:15):
to say what you know, I don't really have a
thought on what I think his major positives are. Just
what he's saying.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Correct, that's what he's saying. I understand you want to
remain objective.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
I mean rent control and bosh, that's a tough I mean,
people want to move into the city and pay two
million dollars for like a thousand square feet in the
right area. I mean, rank control is a hard thing
to pass in the city with real estate being so high.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Correct, right, I mean it's it's something that has encountered
resistance from landlords who say that, you know, they're hit
with inflation and that this would further hurt them financially.
So it's something that the mayor has proposed and that
he's run into roadblocks in the legislature. Is what her
(10:03):
argument is, and she've repeated that today on one of
her podcast appearances, is that it's easier for her opponents
to make promises, but you know, there's a process that
you have to go through.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Okay, Gail Collier is our guest Boston here, Garrett, can
you stick around for one more segment now, I want
to talk about Mayri Wu in her campaign. Sure, Okay,
Gail joins us.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Next.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
We just talked about I think it's going to be
fascinating because they're already very.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Smart people people.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I think that when it comes to their ideology is
pretty much the same. Just one is saying that he
can do it better than her, and they're not afraid
to go after each other, which should be interesting. We
will continue the conversation next on WBC's Nightside.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Ed Welcome, back Gary Tangway for Dan roy tonight, and
Gael Collier is joined us cover City Hall for the
Boston Herald and maybe somedays she'll write a tell all book.
Oh if the walls of Boston City Hall could talk.
Josh Kraft running for mayor against Michelle Wou will join
Dan Ray on Nightside coming up Tomorrow night, Thursday, February
(11:18):
February sixth.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yes, we know that Gary tomorrow night right here on WBZ.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
That's at nine o'clock, so you can't miss it, and
you can also check it out on the iHeartRadio app.
Download it and if you can't listen to it live
at nine, just go to the iHeart app and you'll
be able to click it on.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
And listen to it at your convenience. So that should
be very good.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
All right, let's talk about Meriwoo. So what has she
done well? What will they focus on as opposed to
obviously what the Craft campaign is.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Going to focus on is what she hasn't done well?
What will her her spiel be?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Well?
Speaker 5 (11:59):
I think she would folks on, which is interesting because
this is where Josh Craft is seeing her as being vulnerable.
But I think she would focus on the strides that
she's made or that she says she's made with affordable housing,
building more housing, which is what he's saying, that she
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has developed roadblocks to development. Yeah, so you have that
back and forth. I I mean, I would think that
she would focus on just what she's done with helping
reduce congestion in the city. She's focused on bike lines
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and other area that he sees her as vulnerable, and
just efforts to make Boston more environmentally friendly with her
climate initiatives. So I would I would think that she
would focus on some of those things.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I have no problem with bike lanes. I have problems
with bikers.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
It happened to me the other day.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I'm getting a living off topic, and if I have
a chance to talk to Joshua meyerwill I will tell
her this. It's okay to use a bike lane, but
when a cyclist are you a cyclist?
Speaker 5 (13:18):
By the way, I'm a virtual cyclist. They have an exercise, Okay.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
So I understand, you sit there and you look at
the pretty screen, and you go through the mountains and
you know you're gonna be in you know, yeah, yeah,
you're hand in Hawaii one minute. British Columbia the next
I got you. So, but I'm driving down the road
the other day and I'm stopped. So I have a
cyclist that weaves in and out of the traffic and
then goes through a red light.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
That's illegal. You can't do it. Which is it? You
have your own lane? Are you gonna be a car
or not be a car?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
One or the other. It pisses me off. You have
the bike lane? Have the bike lanes worked, because to me,
I don't know if they have. I see a lot
of congestion. I see a lot of available auto real
estate that goes to a bike lane that I can
look at for a half hour and I never see
it used.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
So I mean, there's certainly something that has caused a
lot of debate among cyclists and non cyclists. So if
you're a cyclist, you love them. But if you're someone
who drives or is trying to get around in a
different way, you probably don't love them best.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
But the problem is Gale is we can't keep everybody happy.
I mean, you know, okay, next thing, you know, we're
gonna have a lane for skateboarders. Okay, let's have a
lane for skateboarders. Let's do that do we want to
do that, then we'll have a We already have sidewalks,
have a lane for skateboards.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
The reality is is that.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
A bike is a vehicle, and uh, you should just
follow the ruts in the road, rules of the road
like you do an automobile. That's what they do. They
follow the rules of the road of the automobile and
as if they're a pedestrian and galic pisses me off.
I'm sorry I got off topic. So now getting back
to the topic at hand, the mayor's race. With what
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Josh is saying, and with the intellect, with the financial
backing that Josh Kraft has, he's still considered an underdog
by how much considerable underdog? Is he going to be
able to make it close?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (15:24):
I mean? I think that's what makes it interesting is
that he's someone who's considered to be a potentially formadal
opponent to the mayor. But it is Boston. No incumbent
mayor has lost since nineteen forty nine in Boston, and uh,
the mayor right now has considerable campaigns on She's over
one point seven million. She is someone who's considered to
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be popular as a progressive. So I think that, you know,
he certainly has a lot of resources, he has connections
to the community through his connection with the Boys and
Girls Club, and it'll I think it'll be interesting. I
can't say for sure, like what the percentage is that
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he is an underdog or how he will do, but
I think that he's someone who could preside to challenge
and if he didn't think that, I don't think he
would be running.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Well, here's what I think.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
This is the way I look at it as again,
as a suburbanite from the outside looking in, I think
Joshua about the same age.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
I think.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
I also feel as if if he's going to run,
he's going to do it now, at this point in
time of his life, right, So I think that's the
driving force. Maybe Dan, I'm sure we'll ask him about that.
Why are you running now tomorrow night at nine right
here on WBC. I'm sure they'll do that then, So
you have I think that's what's driving the timing. I
don't think people are necessarily pissed off at Michelle wou
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that's the issue. I mean they are. I mean, she's
very likable. When I see her on the news, I
go I like her. I would like to be your friend.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
She seems to.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
And let's face you, when it comes down to electability,
it comes down a likable you know. I mean people
say they vote on the issues. They don't vote on
the issues.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
They vote on.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I like that person better. That's really good. That's how
people get elected. Right now, the country, the country likes
Trump better everything he says, he lies all the time.
It doesn't matter. People just like him better for whatever reason.
For some reason, he brings comfort to the country, and
that's why they elected him.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It's not going to be an issue thing.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
So I think the challenge that Josh has is it's
not like people are like trying to ouse Michelle wou.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Right.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
I mean, I yeah, it's definitely how you see it.
If you're a supporter, don't. I don't think you see
it that way. I would think I think that Josh
Kraft is running a campaign based on vulnerabilities that he
sees there. But I think certainly, you know, I was
at an event that the mayor was out the other day,
and she was very well received in a senior center
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in Dorchester that was located near where Craft made his
campaign's future earlier. The day. So she's she's definitely well
received in the community spaces from more than at her events.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
I'm going to put you on the spot. I don't
know if you know this, but when it comes to
municipal races in Boston, what does the voter turnout like?
Speaker 5 (18:22):
It's it was low in the last race.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Yeah, that's the thing. People are so damn apathetic. Yeah,
I mean, maybe maybe this will fire them up because
obviously they're tossing I don't want to say tossing bombs
at each other, but I mean Michelle Mayor wu came out, man,
she did not hold back on Josh. She came out,
and there it's I would say it's a highly intellectual
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boxing match. It's a highly intellectual verbal boxing matches. What
we have between those two.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Is there going to be a debate?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
There hasn't been one scheduled yet, but I would I
would think there was at least one debate in the least.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I mean, I'm telling you, if I'm any of the
local television stations, I want that debate because I mean,
what do you think that would be a pretty cool debate?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
I mean, those what's that I'm sorry?
Speaker 1 (19:13):
What?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:14):
And I think what you're getting at is, judging from
the follies, stay throughout each other yesterday, probably be very
good debate.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
It'd be fantastic because it would also be smart.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
You know, it would be it would be funny, it
would be there would be some sarcasm, but they're also
two smart people. I mean, it's just not like we've
seen in the presidential race tossing insults and making making
I almost swore there, but almost making stuff up. You know,
it would be a good debate. Well, listen, I really
appreciate you coming on, Gail. Good luck at the Harrows
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they had my friends over there. Good luck covering city Hall.
And maybe someday you'll write a tell all book on
what goes on behind the doors of city Hall and
we'll have you on to talk about it.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
Okay, great, Thanks for having Gail.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Take care.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Gail Collins joining us here for the Austin Harold talking
about the mayor race between Josh Craft and Mayor Michelle
wou And she hasn't officially announced it, but I think
she's got it right by the way she's been digging
at Josh. I. You know, Boston politics is always fun
when you take a look at the mayor's and the
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politicians that we've had in this city just from pure entertainment,
going back to Tip O'Neil.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Just you know, Bill Woller was a great speaker. I
mean just.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
And even I know some people look at some of
the Boston politicians is.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Maybe not the most above board.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Individuals, but generally they're funny and they can talk, and
they can they can be very entertaining, and I think
we're going to have an entertaining race between these two.
All Right'm gonna switch gears working the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
How about this?
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Some students from Nichols College are at the super Bowl working.
Now that's a course I want to take. We will
talk to their professor. Coming up next on night Side
on WBZ.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It's Night Side on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Okay, welcome back, Gary and for Dana Knightside again tomorrow
night nine o'clock.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Josh Kraft running.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
From mayor against Mayor Michelle Woo will be joining Dan
Ray in a camp miss interview right here on WBZ
and just Heart Dan talking about it. If you miss
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can listen to that interview, so they'll have that tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
Okay. Joining us right now from New Orleans is.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
A Nickel College professor, Christopher Steele, and he's got a
group of students that have gone down to the Super
Bowl to work as part of the NFL host committee.
Professor Streeter, I said Steele. I meant, Streeter, Chris, how
are you welcome to Night's Side?
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Doing great? Thanks so much for having right.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, how's it going down there?
Speaker 4 (22:06):
It's so far, so good. Where we've made it safely.
We're we're settled into our what we term is our
super Bowl mansion that we've rented, and we're in the
trenches here with the NFL and our first night.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
All right, first night, we'll see how many kids break curfew.
Talk to me tomorrow and bedcheck. Anyways, I've been to
nine Super Bowls. Not bragging, even though it does sound
like I'm bragging. I'm good. I don't need to go
to another one. I'm good.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
It's a zoo, it is Mayhem, and you know, By.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
The time I got like to the eighth or night,
I was like, oh my god, this is just I
got to get out of here. What is it like
for the kids? And tell us about this program and
how this came about.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, I don't think you couldn't You couldn't have said
it any better. It's mayhem, it's it's it's chaos. But
you know, it's a celebration of sport and it's a
elevation of sport in America. And uh, you know, we
live in a country where we're able to to run
these events, and uh, the Louisiana State Police and the
local law enforcement have done a great job. Given the
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New Year's Eve, h New Year's tragedy, they've done a
wonderful job of really making the place feel safe and secure.
And there's a there's a huge presence and lots of
checkpoints and barriers and uh so yeah, you know it
is it is a controlled chaos. But uh but uh,
you know, a horrific thing to be a part of,
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in particularly obviously for our students.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, so what do you want these students to learn?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And what is there major like sports management or travel
and leisure recreation. What do they need to get out
of this and what exactly are they doing for jobs?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Uh, yeah, all great questions. They're all sport management majors
at in our Sport Management and department at Nichols. You know,
the big picture is to really to inspire them, to
show them that this industry we call sport, there's so
many options, there's there's so many possibilities for them. And
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really the idea for me big pictures for them to
walk away just feeling inspired and excited about their potential
for future in sport and to work in the industry.
To a three credit class, so they're earning some credits. They're
being paid by the NFL at the same time, so
they're earning a few bucks. We'll work about fifty hours
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for the NFL this week, wow, and the week leading
up to the super Bowl. Right now, for example, we're
working what's called the Super Bowl Experience, which is a
huge fan festival here in downtown New Orleans, and we
do a variety of jobs. We run all of the
activation events for the fans, and there's autograph booths and
signings and a variety of jobs that they assign us
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when we arrive for each of our shifts and ultimately,
you know, the short term is to put theory into practice.
So in the classroom before we travel, we study the
economics of the Super Bowl, sponsorship, advertisements, pride of Country,
the emergence of the halftime show, a variety of things
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super Bowl related and sport related in our country. And
the idea here is to put it into practice a
little bit for them and we, Nicholas, we call that
experiential learning.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
Well, I agree one hundred percent with it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
I todd On Emerson over the past year, and whenever
I had an opportunity to bring in speakers or to
promote hands on learning.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
That's the only way you can do it. You can
only do so much out of a book.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
I mean, I was able even to take some students
into a production truck, you know, of an NBA game
because some of them wanted to be directors. So I said,
all right, well let's get to it. Let's go in
and see what you need to do. Because theory is great,
but you need to be able to put that theory
in action. And the people that I have met that
work in sports management or sports marketing and what I'm
going to basically in the sports arena, which is really
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entertainment now. I mean, Chris, it has become so huge,
so massive, there's so much money in sports that it's
also when when it comes to the media, the NFL
has its own media arm. You know, before it was
always like, well the Globe and the Herald, they go
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cover the Patriots and that's it. That's not the case anymore.
I mean, the NFL is just this trillion dollar industry,
and especially with social media and with the way we communicate,
there are now more opportunities for people to get involved
in sports management than ever before.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I would write, I mean the numbers must back that
up absolutely.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Social media has has certainly grown exponentially in the last
twenty years, and there's a variety of opportunities for students.
And that's their world, that's the world that they've grown
up in, and so it's second nature to them. And
the idea is to channel that knowledge and channel that
energy into a more sport focused direction. Joke that you know,
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God used to own Sundays, but now the NFL does,
and the other's there. My argument might be that the
NFL owns all seventies of the week now in our country,
and but you know, there's a tremendous opportunities for students,
and it's my job to expose them to some of
those wonderful opportunities.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Well, i'll tell you the NFL right now, I think
blows away the Olympics, and at one point in time
it was all about the Olympics. I think internationally, it's soccer.
It's the World Cup, and it's the Super Bowl. That's it.
Those are the two big kahunas. I keep hearing that
soccer is still number one, or European football. I don't
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know if you haven't any numbers on that, but that
seems to be the case.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
Well, it's certainly the world's most popular sport outside of America.
It's the global reach of the sport of soccer is significant.
NASCAR is actually the number one rated spectator sport in
terms of actual fan attendance. But I think in terms
of popularity and branding, the NFL has done such a
magnificent job of branding their league so that it's visible
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year round. I mean, they have events that run literally
year round that fans tune into. So even in the offseason,
we have the Draft and the Pro Bowl and the
different awards ceremonies and the Hall of Fame inductions, and
it's a twelve month out of the year branding machine
and they've they've mastered it and continue to master it.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Nickel College professor Chris Steelers with us, Doctor Chris Steele,
Chris Streeter, god Man tangle, you're having a bad night. Anyways,
We're going to continue to talk to Chris from New Orleans.
Get some more thoughts on how it feels he feels
about the Big Game, the impact, the gambling, the economics,
and should the Super Bowl just be held in New
Orleans every year. That's all coming up on wbz's Night Side.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
Now back to Dan ray Mine from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ Indio.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
From Nichols College, doctor Chris Streeter is with us talking
about what I think is a terrific program where he
has taken his students down of the Super Bowl and
they get hands on experience, boots on the ground working
with the NFL, experience working with the NFL as a business,
not being there in fans. And one of the things
Chris is that I can tell your students is that
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when you work in sports, it's not a job, it's
a career.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's something you love.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
You don't look at the clock, you don't punch the clock,
and when you start out you don't make any money,
but you do it because you absolutely love it. And
that's why I think it's terrific with what you're doing.
So now let's get into some of the details down
there on what's happening and just your thoughts on the
economics of the super Bowl. What does has it continued
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to increase what a super Bowl can do for a city,
has it had any negative impact at all? Or does
it just continue to have a city Moorlands just make
more and more money.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Yeah, great questions. I don't I think the positive certainly
far outweigh the negatives. There is a myth that the
super Bowl generates hundreds of millions of dollars for host cities,
and there is some truth to that, but you know,
the flip side of that is a lot of that
money leaves. So if you talk to an economist, they're
going to say that hundreds of million dollars probably is inaccurate,
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although that's typically what what gets reported. Now, there is
obviously some economic benefits to the area with the influx
of people, but again Conversely, money that's being spent here
during the super Bowl week may be displaced because that
money may have been spent elsewhere, or the money that
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is spent here goes back to corporate headquarters somewhere in
another part of the country, and so it doesn't end
up staying here in New Orleans anyway. But the benefits
far outweigh the negatives. This is New Orleans eleventh time
hosting the super Bowl, and so clearly they see value
in it.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Should New Orleans host the Super Bowl every year? Because
I think it should.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
It's a pretty cool city. We had an opportunity here
today to drive through the French Quarter and to see
it during the day because we arrived pretty much in
darkness last night. And it's it's another planet. It's in
a good way. It's you know, and they do it.
They do a really good job. There is there is
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something to be said about Southern hospitality.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
People here. That's what they do. Very friendly.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I mean, because they they want to. They basically host
a Super Bowl three hundred and sixty five days a year.
They are set up to do it. They do it
better than anybody else. Now I have been to God,
I've lost track I was in Indianapolis, I was in
Houston twice. Jacksonville what a disaster. I don't know if
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you remember when they had the Super Bowl bull in Jacksonville.
But in order for the Jags to improve their stadium,
which is a talk about putting perfume on a pig, right,
they send us to Jacksonville and they said we're going
to bring in They didn't have enough hotels. They did
not have enough hotels. I mean, if you're telling me
you could put a Super Bowl in Jacksonville, why not
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put it in Springfield for Christ's sake?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Or Providence. That's what you're talking about. And Providence is
a great city.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
I'm not gonna at all, but that's the type of
size you're seeing jackson Plus, the food in Providence is phenomenal.
The food in Jacksonville sucked. I was literally with my
camera crew and the restaurant ran out of food. They
ran out of food in Jacksonville. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
An how certainly, Yeah, the infrastructure certainly is an important component.
You know, we have a sport event management class in
our program and here at Nichols, and we spend a
lot of time talking about the logistics of how to
run an event, and the event itself. The actual sport
is almost secondary because if the infrastructure for the event
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isn't in place, as you mentioned, it has the potential
to be disastrous.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Oh, the game is secondary because the game just runs itself. Well,
you know when the game starts. I mean, that's what
people that's what people who have worked all week just collapse.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Now, Indy wasn't bad, the Indy, but but they didn't
have enough restaurants. The facility in Indy was phenomenal. I
mean the fieldhouse they had there. That was an unbelievable stadium.
That was a great place. That was that that was tremendous.
Atlanta Atlanta was and Atlanta wasn't great, but it should be.
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It just should be in New Orleans. Vi yea Detroit.
Thank god I didn't have to go to Detroit. That's
the last place I wanted to go. I'll tell you
that right now.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
When we've run the program four times, We've done Miami
two years ago, we were in Phoenix. Last year we
brought students to Vegas, and of course this year in
New Orleans. The Phoenix and Vegas trips were both really
well run. The challenge with Phoenix is the fan festivals
were in downtown Phoenix, and then of course the stadium
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events are in Glendale, fifteen miles away, and so logistically
that was a little bit of a challenge last year
in Vegas for our students, everything was in one place.
The entire campus of the super Bowl, the whole sports gape,
the area surrounding Allegiant Stadium was all part of Vegas.
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But interestingly enough, it almost didn't feel last year that
the Super Bowl was anything special in Vegas because it
was like, it's just another event, but it's another bright
light among many, and so that was an interesting dynamic
to our experience last year.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, Phoenix, when you're when you're in Vegas, you have
a lot of competition.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Yeah, you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Even you like if you have heavyweight fights there, you
know you're competing with Adele who's in residency down the
street or whoever at that particular time. But Vegas, like
New Orleans, is probably set up for it. I forgot.
I was in Phoenix for a couple of them, and
it was a pain in the ass. I listen to me,
I'm decently being a whiny media member. Having a lot
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of activities in Phoenix and having me to go out
to the facility fifty miles away as a real pain
in the neck. But I'll tell you what, that stadium
in Phoenix in Glendale was amazing, I mean amazing.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Sure, yeah, sure, State Farm it is amazing. And Allegiance
last year was amazing. And we'll be at the Superdome
tomorrow for some training and some work over there, and
so we're the students and I are really looking forward
to that.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
How does gambling enter into your curriculum?
Speaker 4 (35:54):
You know, I, personally, as a sport management college for
I don't touch a whole lot on it. I I
just I'm not convinced on the value of it. I
am not convinced on the benefit for it in our society,
and so I don't spend a lot of time talking
about it in our curriculum. Inevitably, I will probably expand
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on it in future semesters, but right now, we we
gloss over it. We talk a little bit about it
in our discussion about fan engagement, in our discussion about economics. Uh,
it obviously and inevitably comes up and as part of
those discussions. But I just I'm not. On a personal note,
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I'm just not sure the value of the gambling industry,
and especially dealing with with young adults and college students,
and you know, a click of the button can get
them in big trouble these days, and and and and
so that's for me. It's it's touchy territory that I
don't dive in to a whole heck of a lot.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Well, I think your position is admirable, but as it's
here and there's nothing we can do about it, I
agree with everything you said. But my first day of
class at Everson, a young man who raised his hand
asked me if I thought a certain wide receiver would
have more than fifty eight yards and two touchdowns this
weekend because he was on DraftKings right first day of class. Okay,
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and that's what I realized. It's here, and I brought
in some people from DraftKings. The one thing I could
tell you is that if you're in the media, you
need to know it. You need to know it. It's everywhere.
If you're in the media, you have to understand how
it works. You have to went because I had my
students go through I said, tell me in one day,
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write down everything that you consume when it comes to sports,
and it was you know, podcasts and DraftKings. There's those
shipment I mean draft and they just consume it constantly.
One of the reasons, Like on a Sunday I said, okay,
I want you guys to have a diary.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
What did you do for football? Well, they watched their
favorite team.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
They watched the Patriots for one game, then they watched
the second game. Because they're putting money on it. I mean,
it's here. You're absolutely right. It's a slippery slope, dude.
It is a slippery slope, but it's here. And if
you're in the business, you have to understand it. That's
the problem. Like, that's the problem you're in is you
don't want to encourage it.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
But if you're going to be in the sports business, because.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
How the NFL, I mean everybody's in and everybody's in
on it.
Speaker 4 (38:39):
Yeah, Ultimately, it is a business and DraftKings is a
company and the NFL is a company ultimately at the
end of the day, and it's about revenue generation and
you know, but it comes back to the idea of
entertainment that you mentioned earlier. You know, sport certainly is entertainment.
And the million dollar question is what is the balance
(38:59):
between enjoying sport for sport and then being a loyal
fan just to be a loyal fan and versus I'm
a loyal fan if there's some money involved.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
I'll tell you, Chris.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
That ended with fantasy because when I would sit there
and watch a game and then somebody would say, Oh,
my team's losing, ooh, but my fantasy guy is winning,
I was like, Okay, it's over Barmageddon. Listening to Jordan Orleans,
doctor Chris Streeter Christia was a camera guy. I worked
with a Channel fifty six one hundred years ago, so
I apologize.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
That's okay. He sounds terrific.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
Oh the best, great guy, Doctor Chris Streeter Nichols College. Congratulations.
I hope you guys have a great time. You're on
the right track. Experience, experience, experience, and have a good time.
Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I appreciate it. Thank you. Okay.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
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