February 6, 2025 • 39 mins
President Trump made some controversial statements this week about the Gaza Strip. Trump seemingly suggested that the U.S. would take over the Gaza Strip and rebuild it, displacing Palestinians. Is Trump getting out over his skis? Is it wise to get more heavily involved with the Israel-Hamas war?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's night with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Easy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, I'm back for the first time since last Friday,
last Friday night, and there's been a lot that's been
going on in Washington, that's for sure. The President is
issuing executive orders in various comments that our court activities.
(00:29):
It is a whirlwind of activity, and to try to
address all of the issues that President Trump has begun
to address is really almost impossible to I mean, it's
just a whirlwind of activity. And I thought that one
of the areas that we could focus on tonight, and
(00:50):
I hope we can focus is the controversy that sort
of stirred up over the weekend, or I should say, well,
it was away Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who was
welcome to the White House, and Netanya, who was obviously
a fan of Donald Trump. I think it's pretty clear
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from his body language that Netanyah, who is more comfortable
with Donald Trump than he ever was with Joe Biden.
And the President was in a press conference with Prime
Minister Yahouh, and I believe that he kind of freelanced this.
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There's some suggestion that many of his staffers were taken
aback that President Trump seemed to suggest that the United
States would take over the Gaza Strip and rebuild it. Uh.
And that initially the plan that the President seemed to propose,
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and I think I'm interpreting him correctly, I'm not trying
to him incorrectly, was that we would take over the
Gaza Strip, the millions of Palestinians who lived there would
be resettled in another Arab country, whether it would be
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Egypt or Jordan, although Egypt and Jordan has not shown
any willingness to do that to date. And that the
President referred to it as the riviera of what was
the phrase. I think he used the rivierra of the
Middle East. Now, the Gaza Strip is on the Mediterranean Ocean,
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but it it was mind boggling. This was the president
in the news conference. Let me start off with cut
twenty six, rob Okay, cut twenty six. This is the
President during a news conference with Prime Minister Netanya who
talking about Gaza.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The US will take over the Gaza Strip and we
will do a job with it too. We'll own it
and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded
bombs and other weapons.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
On the site.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings,
level it out, create an economic development that will supply
unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
The people of the area, a real job to something different.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Just can't go back.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
If you go back, it's going to end up the
same way it has for one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So that was I think the statement that he made
now the Secretary of State, former Senator of Marco Rubio,
seemed to endorse the project without a whole lot of reservation.
This is cut number twenty three. This is the new
Secretary of State, former Cenator Marco Rubio, Cut twenty three.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Robed Goza has been severely damaged. If you look at
the aerial image, you see what's happening. The billions of
dollars are going to be required for reconstruction or enormous
some areas have been rendered unlivable now and for the
foreseeable future. And so what the President Trump announced yesterday
is the offer the willingness of the United States to
become responsible for the reconstruction of that area. And while
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you are rebuilding, while you're clearing debris. By the way,
there are unexploded munitions there are all kinds of hamas
weaponry still buried underground. For people to be able to
live in a place safety, all of that has to
be removed. It's an enormous undertaking, and the only thing
President Trump has done, very generously, in my view, is
offer the United States willingness to step in clear the debris,
clean the place up from all the destruction that's on
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the ground, clean it up of all these unexploded munitions,
and in the meantime, the people living there will not
be able, the people who call it home will not
be able to live there while you have crews coming
in and removing debris, while you have munitions being removed,
et cetera. That's the offer that he's made.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Okay, so, Secretary of State on the same page as
the President, maybe it wasn't that spontaneous. I think it
was spontaneous, to be really honest with you. The President understands,
I guess that Egypt and Jordan are not inclined to
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participate in this, but he well, again, I want him
to speak for himself. Cut twenty nine b Rob talking
about Egypt and Jordan.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Despite them saying no. I have a feeling that the
King in Jordan and that the General president, but that
the General and Egypt will open their hearts and will
give us the kind of land that we need to
get this done and people can live in harmony and
a peace.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Thank you all very much. Before he left, he said, however,
it cut twenty nine. See this is where he used
the term riviera of the Middle East. Cut twenty nine,
Zer Rub.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
We have an opportunity to do something that could be phenomenal.
And I don't want to be cute, I don't want
to be a wise guy, but the riviera of the
Middle East. This could be something that could be so bad.
This could be so magnificent.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Now at the news conference, there's one SoundBite here from
net Yahoo which seemed, well, he just talked about what
a great friend of Egypt President Trump, or a great
friend of Israel, excuse me, President Trump has been. And
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I don't know that he endorsed this idea, but I
suspect he might have been as surprised if anyone that
it was raised. This is cutting number thirty. Rub.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
I've said this before, I'll say it again. You are
the greatest friend Israel has ever had in the White House.
And that's why the people of Israel have such enormous
respect for you. In your first term, you recognize Jerusalem
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is Israel's capital, you moved the American embassy there. You
recognize Israel's sovereignty over the Golan Heights. You withdrew from
the disastrous Iran nuclear deal. I remember we spoke about it.
You said, this is the worst deal I've ever seen.
I'm elected, I'm walking out of it. That's exactly what
you did, and I think it speaks loudly for just
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common sense, just looking at things and seeing them as
they are.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Okay, so I'm going to open up phone lines, and
I'm curious. I think this is a bridge too far.
I'm very pro Israel. I think that we have to
make sure that if and when, and by the way,
the Gaza Strip at this point is truly unlivable. I
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mean you've looked. I think Rubio was right. You looked
at the aerial photographs. I mean it has been leveled.
It has been leveled. I don't know how it will
ever be rebuilt, but I suspect over time it will
be what the Palestinians do. In the meantime, I don't
know how anyone can live there. There must be no electricity,
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there must be no running water, there must be no
facilities of any sort of hospitals. It looks to me
like pure devastation. I would assume that Israel would be
thrilled if two of the other Arab nations are more
than two, but certainly Egypt and Jordan being the nearest,
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I think, the most contiguous. They if they were to
accept the Palestinians, if the Palestinians return to Gaza, how
do you control Hamas? I mean, that's the problem. The
problem is not the Palestinians. The problem is Hamas, and
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we can never again allow an October seventh to occur.
But if they continue, if Hamas continues to rule that area,
and Hamas insists they want more October sevenths, this is
Donald Trump thinking way outside the box. But I don't
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know that it's I don't think it is. Even Republicans
in the Senate had issues and problems with it. So
I just want to open it up. I mean, is
this Obviously Donald Trump elected as a disruptor, no question,
and he is disrupting. And it's an idea that if it,
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I mean, if it, if you could wave a magic wander.
You could take the Palestinians. There's almost like the Halffield
of McCoy's and say, okay, you're going to move at
different sides of the mountain. That would be wonderful. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty, six one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty.
Back on Night's side. Your phone calls right after this.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
All right, so Donald Trump here is is throwing ideas
out fast and furious, and I'm not sure that this one.
There must be a method behind the madness. But I
think that he's he's way out over his skis in
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this one. But some of you might disagree. Let's see
six one, seven, two, ten thirty or six month, seven
nine thirty. We go to David and Jamaica plane. Hey, David, welcome,
How are you tonight?
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Very well? I'm very well, you know, And I've been
thinking about this for a while, and I think Donald
Trump has to take it one step further and we
need a three state what is it? A two state?
What do they call it? A two state? A two
state solution. I think Trump is pushing for the three
state solution. You've got the peaceful palaestin Ins, you've got
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the peaceful Israelis, and then you've got animal kingdom. You
pay them all ten thousand, you carrate a killing field,
fence it off, and you give them all the money,
and they go in and you load it with weapons. Still,
why not you got David?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think, David, you're I know, look, I know sarcasm
when I hear it, it's funny, but it's it's it's
a tragic situation there, and I don't think it's something
that we can really make light off. To be honest
with you, you have Hamas that attacked innocent men and
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women and children and literally slaughtered people. Israel had to
respond Israel Israel is in a situation with the proximity
of Hamas and which were elected. Hamas was elected by
the Palestinians, but Hamas has never had subsequent elections. I
would like to think that rational Palestinians would want nothing
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to do with Hamas. I mean, how can you how
can you live in the same neighborhood and be like,
if you're fighting your your next door neighbor every day,
at some point one of you got to be smart
and moved. So I don't know.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
I think I think that you just said, you just said,
I'd like to think there are rational Palestinians, which which
they have to they are I've met. I mean, I work,
I work in a place where all everybody, with everybody
is every culture is loved at first and hate, you
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know what I mean. It's like Hayn's learned at home.
You know what I mean. Racism is part at home
and all that you're born love it. I believe that
you're born love itte.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Sure, yeah, you know it's nature versus nurture. I understand
the argument, but it just so.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
How do you separate the hate and the good people
of Palestine? I mean, I think, to be perfectly honest,
when they were when they what did you see when
they when they when they were giving back the hostages
and the Hamas guys were all dressed in black with
their black masks, and they had gotten to it with
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all the fans, and they loved it. They yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And I also and I also think that they paraded
the hostages. I'm sure they paraded the hostages and made
the hostages, upon threat of reprisal, to wave and look
happy like they were thrilled. I might have been thrilled
to getting out, to be getting out out of there,
but they weren't through for four hundred and sixty five
days or whatever the number was. The captivity that they endured,
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God knows what those young men and women and older
men and women were subjected to it at the.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Hands of the major and Dan. I know that I
was flipping my personal statements with the three state solutions,
But how do you how do you how do you
solve something going on for a thousand years? Wow?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think that Israel
did a pretty good job of taking out simultaneously Iranian Hespo,
Lah and hamas leadership.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And obviously there was the additional lucky strike extra of
Asad leaving.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
They got they got the US Olympic people from the sixties,
all of them. Seventy two, Yeah, from seventy two, none
of those guys. But again, I pray, I pray for
the Middle East. I mean, it's Trump, maybe way out
over his skis, and maybe he brought somewhat of peace
(15:11):
to the Middle If that's the last spot in the world, well,
I don't know enough about but that that spot could
be well, yeah, look, you.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Know, people can can go back to biblical times and
talk about the enmity that existed. And we have one
friend in the region, one friend that we can count on,
and that is Israel, and we have to support Israel.
And I think that maybe what Trump was trying to do,
I'd like to think in a rational moment, was trying
to shake things up and saying, hey, let's see if
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we can separate these two groups. And maybe he threw
it out there and just run it up the flag
Poland who who would salute it? I mean, I don't
I don't know. I mean, he's an unconditional precedent. He's
proved that the first seventeen or eighteen to.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Go ahead, it's been, it's been. But I love your
a little in a rational moment for Trump, so that
that kind of signifies a lot. But hey, let you
got to give the guy a chance with with with
what we've seen, I mean, uh uh, transgender puppet shows
in Burma, I mean, with yourself all right, But yeah,
(16:20):
thank you for the time, God bless you. I I
hope peace peace in the Middle East in my lifetime.
I would I would, I would, I would go to
I would go to the wherever it is happy man.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, Well, I would just say to you that the
Abraham Accords there were there was a lot of progress
made during the Trump administration, even while it was under
you know, threats of impeachment and UH and and all
of that. The Abram Abraham Accords was something that the
Trump administration should look back upon with rod and if
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they can extend those and if they can get Saudi Arabia,
Saudi Arabia is the big dog, UH in the neighbor.
If they can get Saudi Arabia to sign on to
the Abraham Accords, now we may have some you know,
some real possibilities.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
I don't Abraham Accords. I don't know. This particularly would
take too long to explain. But they were well, they
were well intentioned and well meaned. I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Well, what happened was that the Trump administration, and I
believe Jared Kushna was involved in that as well, had
worked with some of the smaller Middle Eastern countries, the
Arab countries, and they signed the Abraham Accords in Washington.
It would have been I believe in September of twenty twenty.
But that sort of was lost in the in all
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the COVID stuff and in the impeachments. But that is
a base upon which this administration may be able to build. Obviously,
the Israelis have done an amazing job in the last
year and a half, for the last what is it
sixteen months in a eminating leader Hesala leadership, Humas leadership.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You know Iranian?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You know the guy that they killed in in in Lebanon.
He was five five stories underground and they hit him.
They hit that facility from three separate planes within a
matter of eight seconds. It's an extraordinary story. They and
the whole idea about the the beepers that were exploding
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and then the walkie talkies. I mean it, it was brilliant.
And that's what I think. That's what you have to do.
You have to identify who's good who's bad, and you
got to root for the good guys. And I think
that that that the Israelis are the good guys. I'm
pretty clear on how I feel about that.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Okay, there's Talistonian Tealasanans and are beautiful loving.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Race, absolutely absolutely and they Yeah, I mean that doesn't
mean that during World War Two every German was a Nazi,
but the Nazis controlled the population in Germany, and I
think Hamas for fifteen years now or more has controlled
the Palestinian population, and Hamas culminating obviously with that horrific
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October seventh attack. Anyway, David, thanks.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You're welcome to go take quick break at is ten
thirty one. Your thoughts, I mean, could this potentially lead
to Sometimes it is said that it's darkest before the dawn.
I mean, maybe there's the potential here of a dawn
in the Middle East. Netnya who certainly has survived politically
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and militarily, Israel is in better condition today. Militarily, Iran
is on its heels. I have no idea what the
new leadership of Siria will be, but there's a possibility
that they might be sane, they might be rational. Uh.
The only lines open right now is six months, seven
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nine three. This is serious stuff. And I know that
there are a lot of people who inherently don't like
Donald Trump, which is fine. And when I heard this,
my initial reaction and my reaction is still that's a
little bit out over his skis, but it does shake
it up a little bit. Just to talk about it.
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Should we have troops in in Gaza? No, we don't
need troops in Gaza. We're talking about cutting the government,
the cost of government here. How can we turn around
and take what would be trillions of dollars to rebuild Gaza.
I don't think that's conceivable. I have no idea. That's
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why I invite you to join the conversation. The only
lines are six months, seven, nine thirty.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Back after this, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray.
I'm WAZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
We're talking about Donald Trump's suggestion that somehow, some way,
the United States could rebuild Gaza. He talked about this
during his press conference with Benjamin Yaho the other day.
Not Yahoo has has I think endorsed the idea generally.
But I'm getting your response to it. We'll keep rolling here,
(21:26):
Gonna go to Matt next. Matt, appreciate your calling in.
Next on Nightside, your thoughts on the President's proposal. I
think he's a little over his skis.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
Agree to disagree, Well, he's out over his.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
He's out there, Dan, And let me congratulate you on
your on your show. But you know, on a serious,
no serious topic, I'll say that you know, recognition to
you for another time.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Look, this is a difficult topic.
Speaker 9 (21:59):
There's a situation where Gazza has been leveled, okay, and
Gazza was in a situation where they are run by
a militant group. That militant group is not going to
go away, and that militant group is going to going
to say so, now, how it's spun the US getting
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involved in rebuilding or taking ownership. Yet that's a far out,
a little bit like what what what's the end? Where
where's the sustenance of that process? Jordan does not want
to take them, Saudi says it's a non starter. Quote Yemen,
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They're not going to take them. No other countries around
there want to have them, nor does Egypt, and that's
a big problem. So they need to be relocated for
humanitarian purposes. My heart, even though I'm a very big
Zionist and support Israel and Israel the Senate themselves, you
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can't live in the conditions that causes in right now,
and they need to be relocated unless they want to
be adamant and stay there. I mean, and I think
my answer is kind of that. You know, if there's
US need to go in and take and kick?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
How do you how do you relocate I have no idea.
Is that two million, three million, four million people? How
do you do that? Well?
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I think it's one point I think it's one point five.
How do you relocate them? I don't think all two
million are going to want to stay. There's going to
be people. I think it's going to be probably fifteen
thousand to one hundred thousand who are going to not
want to leave. They'll live in those conditions, and how
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do you relocate those people? That is where Trump's what
she said is not that far off skis, but why
the US is directly getting involved. I don't know it's
going to need to be because somebody's going to me
to finance this. The US already has an enormous that
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we can't handle things in our own country. And ultimately,
the tragedy here is that there are somebody who comes
from a you know, it's rarely citizens, and you know,
a heritage and you know who have lived there.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
You know there's such.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
Good Palestinians who work hard and people in Gazas who
were caught up by come off. And fifty percent of
these people are under eighteen. And that's the tragedy of
this in my mind. Yet, sixty percent of the people
in a survey of US about a thousand people in
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Daza did support the ongoing come Os violence toward Israel
after October seventh.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
How much did you say they did they do polls?
Speaker 9 (25:08):
You said, yes, there were poles. I can't put them
on the phone with you. I can't quote it back.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Okay, but you quoted it. You quoted the number. What
was the number of zero six sixty sixty.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
Fort Comos And that's where you have to worry then,
because you know, let's just say it does get rebuilt,
goed to be a you know, a decade long, you
know situation, and if not longer, it's gonna be funded.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
But then you get.
Speaker 9 (25:43):
Militant groups that are going to pop back up potentially stronger.
You know, this is going on in the West Bank
right now, and it was only silenced because the West
Bank and Gaza are two different militant groups within.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So I don't know, okay. So you were not optimistic
that we will ever have some sort of a piece,
truly piece in the Middle East.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
I'm not optimistic at all. I'll just say, when nobody's
innocent but two days after the piece deal and people
go and they're any food center eating and there's on
behalf of kam offs people who are stabbing people in
open food center, which happened two days after twice, just declaring, ghod,
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how can you meddle with that? How can you go
against that? It's always going well?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Arguably No, arguably, Then maybe you look at the Trump
situation to say it's something that has to it has
to be done. As as challenging as it is. I guess,
I don't know, it could take you in a different, uh,
in a totally different direction. Matt. Let me keep rolling.
You see what other folks have to say. I appreciate
your perspective, Thank you very much. Let me go to
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Frank in Boston. Frank, your thoughts on the President Trump's
I don't know. I certainly can't call it a plan.
I'll call it his musings.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
He is turning on every promise that he promised the
American people. He said he wasn't gonna get us involved
in outside wards and he said he's gonna keep us
at home. He said he's gonna do something with the economy.
He just wanted to take two different countries, our best
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best trading partner, and he wanted to raise everything that
they sell to us, and we would have to end
up paying the price. And nothing. Eggs are going up,
Gas is starting to go up. Everything he promises not
coming to fruition, and you guys are supporting him saying
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that we should, that we should own gather and we
should send troops over there.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I didn't say that, Frank, I don't know if you
listen to me, but I never said that.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Ruby Rubio said it. The Defense Department, the defense arm
of the Israeli government, just came out the other earlier today.
I think and sit and agreed with it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well, let me take one of the Let me take
one of Let me take one of the points that
you raised, which is an interesting point, and let me
get your response to it. So President Trump threatened tariffs
of against Mexico and Canada, right right, right, correct, It's
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on pause for a month, but apparently both countries said
they would increase the number of their military on their
borders to try to intercept drug smugglers into the country.
I mean, right now, we do have a problem really
emanates in China with fentanyl coming into this country. And
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killing young people. You sound like a young guy, so
I'm sure you're you're hip to this thing. Well, you
sound a lot younger, Frank, take that as a compliment, okay.
But his his stated concern, whether you accept it or not,
is the number of drugs coming in the country. So
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if by threatening tariffs against Mexico and Canada, he's got
them both to bolster the number of UH military their
military that is on their border to intercept the flow
of fentanyl into the country, is that a bad thing?
Speaker 8 (29:44):
No? But from where I understand, the deal that he
supposedly got was already in the works the bil administration.
You already coming up with something like that. Not only that,
the administration came up with the Night Supporter, a plan
by the Conservatives to tighten the border, and presidence he
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said no to it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But wait a second, hold on, you mixed it a
couple of things. Frank. Let me just ask you a question, okay,
and then I'll listen to your answer. The Biden administration
had four years in which we saw people pouring over
the border every day, we saw.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Drugs and were coming down.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
They came down. In the last couple of months, there
have been seventy thousand people, and the Biden administration they
came down after Trump had won the election. On November fifth,
the number of fentanyl deaths in this country sixty seventy thousand,
mostly young people. Not people my age or your age,
but mostly young people try this stuff. They don't even
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know what they're trying, and they're dead. The Bide administration
had four years they said the borders were secure. They weren't.
They weren't secure, and somehow by Trump, by threatening tariffs,
said okay, you know, Canada and Mexico said okay, we'll
put some troops to the border. I don't think that's
a bad.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Thing, but I just I just I just said.
Speaker 11 (31:15):
I just mentioned that these plans or these deals were
already in the world fire fire the administration, and they
were coming online, and he didn't really too long because
it was already there.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I mean, if they weren't already there, if he had,
if he had to be okay, the Biden administration in
four years, let me ask you whether that were the troops.
Here's my question. Were the Mexican troops and the Canadian
troops deployed to the border before Trump became president or
after he became president.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
From where I'm here, who were going to be there anyway? Okay,
the deal was set already.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Okay, the other first person who has told me that
I will accept. I'm trying to accept what you tell me.
But go ahead.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
We're talking about it the other night on the news shows.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I can only speak to Biden administration had four years.
For four years, the borders were open. The Mexicans never
had troops that were serious about stopping the floor of
mental and fentanyl. The Canadians were more serious, but there
were more. There was more fentanyl coming over the border
when Biden left office than when he came into office.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
But Sir, during the Trump administration, in this four years,
he wasn't to do anything either.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I think if you look back at the numbers, Frank,
if you go back and look at the numbers of people,
it's difficult to quantify how much fentanyl came over the border.
The only thing you could look at I guess at
the number of deaths that came that that occurred. But
if you look at the numbers of people that came
over the borders, I guarantee you there were more people
that came over the borders during the Biden administration than
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the first Trump administration. Frank, we've gone about seven minutes here.
I always appreciate your calls, whether we agree or disagree,
but I got a break here, So I I hate
to do this to you because I I don't want
to feel you that you get short change. I appreciate
your calls.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Cant what he said he was gonna do, he's not
He's not doing what he said he was gonna do.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Well, there's a lot of things that he said he
was gonna do. He signed the executive orders, Frank, and
I don't have the time to list all of those
right now.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
But and now all go put us in the poorhouse,
and all of them put us. It may be in
some type of dispute overseas.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
We'll see, we'll see. I want you to continue to
be a listener, continue to be a call, and we'll
continue our conversations. Thanks, Ryll, A good one. Good night
back on Nightside right after this, now.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Back to Dan Ray Window World night Side Studios on
WBZ the News Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Okay, let's keep going here. We're going to try to
get a couple in before the break, and we'll continue
the conversation on the other side of we go to
Tom and Lee and Tom next on Nisiger right ahead.
Speaker 12 (34:13):
I'm daying. Oh my god, that last caller. Good God,
enough of that, But anyway, you're back. Good for US
four thousands broadcasts, outstanding, outstanding.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Appreciate, fourth collar than nightside programs. Yeah, going back to
two thousand and seven.
Speaker 12 (34:29):
Okay, a couple of things Rubio I could. I was
never too keen on him, but I'm kind of warming
up to him.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Okay.
Speaker 12 (34:37):
Two, the guys are one hundred and forty square miles.
It's unlivable. Two point one million Palestinians. Where they're going
to go? Egypt doesn't want him. Jordan's not going to
take anymore. The Jordanians fought a war against the Palestinians
in like nineteen seventy. It only lasted four days. That
Jordanians made short workout of it. They don't want anymore.
(34:59):
Fast forward five six months ago elections in Jordan. The
Palestinian Party is now the largest party in the Jordanian Parliament.
It's the I J F CHI I forget the acronym,
but it's the Palestinians. I don't know where they're going
to go. I know the I know the problems. I
don't have any solutions. We keep talking about Hamasque with
(35:19):
the Palestinians and Hezbola in Lebanon. The key is Iran.
I know the problem. I don't have the solution. Go ahead, No,
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Uh, the key is Iran. But I'm hoping. I'm hoping
that maybe, uh, there's a breakthrough, uh and that something
good's going to happen. I wish I knew. I wish
I knew, and I just think, uh, I think Trump
is out over his skeys. I think he was freelancing
(35:51):
at that. All the reports suggested that his staff were
kind of taking aim back by it, although Rubio kind
of fell in line. I don't know what he was doing.
I really don't, honest with you.
Speaker 12 (36:01):
You know what it was. It was Dan, That was
Trump being Trump. He throws whatever he can throw against
the wall. That sticks, It sticks, if it doesn't, it doesn't.
And as you say, he's he's over his head, he's
over match here. You just I don't know. Again, I
know the problems. I don't have the solutions. It's two
point one million Palestinians where they're going to go.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Nobody will you set it up nicely. Let's see what
people have to say. See if people react to what
you have to say.
Speaker 12 (36:27):
All right, I'll see you.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Thank you, Thank you. Tom, appreciate your call. Thank you much.
Let me get one more in here before the break.
I'm going to go to Mark in Lexington. Mark you
and next on nice I got a couple of minutes
for you. Go right ahead.
Speaker 10 (36:42):
Jeez, thank you. I appreciate it. Jan Donald Trump, President Trump.
All he did was pumped to be a mister of
the pot. He knows we're never gonna build the river there.
He knows it's gonna change and gout. But you're just
trying to show people. Then might be an alternative. But
(37:06):
you know what, though, I do construction, I've got it
all over the world. Philippines Filipidos are imported to do
work in the Middle East. Nobody will hire the Palestinians.
I am not a racist. It's just what it is.
I've seen it. It's the Palestinians cause problems. They have
(37:28):
an agenda that's not accepted by mobile.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Can Can we at least draw a distinction between the
Palestinians and Hamas? Uh?
Speaker 10 (37:38):
Exactly? There's more good Palestinians, I hope, than the Hamas members.
I'm sorry I misspoke. You are correct, you don't mistake.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I was just I was just clarifying it. The difference
is the mass has weapons. You know, THETA may not
have a Second Amendment over there, but the guys with
the guns are ruling.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
And they keep track of who votes which way. It's
like the general population is intimidated if they don't vote
the right way. And Donald Trump knows none of this
will ever happen. He's stirring the pot. But you know, admit,
if nobody in your neighborhood wants to I hate to generalize,
(38:21):
what are they doing wrong? Meanwhile everyone blames what a
weasonally wrong.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
We'll look in.
Speaker 10 (38:28):
The mirror to I mean, give a little bit of
tense for how many years help us help you? It
is my thought.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
All right, let's see if people. I got you in
before the wire, I got the eleven o'clock news coming
at me. Mark, always appreciate your participation. I'm interested to
find out the different places you've work. Called back some
other time because it sounds to me like you had
an interesting career.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
It's been a lot of fun, did I take care
of God bless.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Thanks, Thanks Mark, talk to you soon. Here comes the eleven.
The only line open is six one seven two five.
We just filled. We got full lines. We'll keep dialing
after after the news here and we'll get you. I promise.
We've got some time. We got a one hour left
here on night side.
It's night with Dan Ray. I'm telling you Easy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, I'm back for the first time since last Friday,
last Friday night, and there's been a lot that's been
going on in Washington, that's for sure. The President is
issuing executive orders in various comments that our court activities.
(00:29):
It is a whirlwind of activity, and to try to
address all of the issues that President Trump has begun
to address is really almost impossible to I mean, it's
just a whirlwind of activity. And I thought that one
of the areas that we could focus on tonight, and
(00:50):
I hope we can focus is the controversy that sort
of stirred up over the weekend, or I should say, well,
it was away Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who was
welcome to the White House, and Netanya, who was obviously
a fan of Donald Trump. I think it's pretty clear
(01:12):
from his body language that Netanyah, who is more comfortable
with Donald Trump than he ever was with Joe Biden.
And the President was in a press conference with Prime
Minister Yahouh, and I believe that he kind of freelanced this.
(01:33):
There's some suggestion that many of his staffers were taken
aback that President Trump seemed to suggest that the United
States would take over the Gaza Strip and rebuild it. Uh.
And that initially the plan that the President seemed to propose,
(01:56):
and I think I'm interpreting him correctly, I'm not trying
to him incorrectly, was that we would take over the
Gaza Strip, the millions of Palestinians who lived there would
be resettled in another Arab country, whether it would be
(02:17):
Egypt or Jordan, although Egypt and Jordan has not shown
any willingness to do that to date. And that the
President referred to it as the riviera of what was
the phrase. I think he used the rivierra of the
Middle East. Now, the Gaza Strip is on the Mediterranean Ocean,
(02:41):
but it it was mind boggling. This was the president
in the news conference. Let me start off with cut
twenty six, rob Okay, cut twenty six. This is the
President during a news conference with Prime Minister Netanya who
talking about Gaza.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The US will take over the Gaza Strip and we
will do a job with it too. We'll own it
and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded
bombs and other weapons.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
On the site.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings,
level it out, create an economic development that will supply
unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
The people of the area, a real job to something different.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Just can't go back.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
If you go back, it's going to end up the
same way it has for one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So that was I think the statement that he made
now the Secretary of State, former Senator of Marco Rubio,
seemed to endorse the project without a whole lot of reservation.
This is cut number twenty three. This is the new
Secretary of State, former Cenator Marco Rubio, Cut twenty three.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Robed Goza has been severely damaged. If you look at
the aerial image, you see what's happening. The billions of
dollars are going to be required for reconstruction or enormous
some areas have been rendered unlivable now and for the
foreseeable future. And so what the President Trump announced yesterday
is the offer the willingness of the United States to
become responsible for the reconstruction of that area. And while
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you are rebuilding, while you're clearing debris. By the way,
there are unexploded munitions there are all kinds of hamas
weaponry still buried underground. For people to be able to
live in a place safety, all of that has to
be removed. It's an enormous undertaking, and the only thing
President Trump has done, very generously, in my view, is
offer the United States willingness to step in clear the debris,
clean the place up from all the destruction that's on
(04:41):
the ground, clean it up of all these unexploded munitions,
and in the meantime, the people living there will not
be able, the people who call it home will not
be able to live there while you have crews coming
in and removing debris, while you have munitions being removed,
et cetera. That's the offer that he's made.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Okay, so, Secretary of State on the same page as
the President, maybe it wasn't that spontaneous. I think it
was spontaneous, to be really honest with you. The President understands,
I guess that Egypt and Jordan are not inclined to
(05:22):
participate in this, but he well, again, I want him
to speak for himself. Cut twenty nine b Rob talking
about Egypt and Jordan.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Despite them saying no. I have a feeling that the
King in Jordan and that the General president, but that
the General and Egypt will open their hearts and will
give us the kind of land that we need to
get this done and people can live in harmony and
a peace.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Thank you all very much. Before he left, he said, however,
it cut twenty nine. See this is where he used
the term riviera of the Middle East. Cut twenty nine,
Zer Rub.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
We have an opportunity to do something that could be phenomenal.
And I don't want to be cute, I don't want
to be a wise guy, but the riviera of the
Middle East. This could be something that could be so bad.
This could be so magnificent.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Now at the news conference, there's one SoundBite here from
net Yahoo which seemed, well, he just talked about what
a great friend of Egypt President Trump, or a great
friend of Israel, excuse me, President Trump has been. And
(06:44):
I don't know that he endorsed this idea, but I
suspect he might have been as surprised if anyone that
it was raised. This is cutting number thirty. Rub.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
I've said this before, I'll say it again. You are
the greatest friend Israel has ever had in the White House.
And that's why the people of Israel have such enormous
respect for you. In your first term, you recognize Jerusalem
(07:19):
is Israel's capital, you moved the American embassy there. You
recognize Israel's sovereignty over the Golan Heights. You withdrew from
the disastrous Iran nuclear deal. I remember we spoke about it.
You said, this is the worst deal I've ever seen.
I'm elected, I'm walking out of it. That's exactly what
you did, and I think it speaks loudly for just
(07:44):
common sense, just looking at things and seeing them as
they are.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Okay, so I'm going to open up phone lines, and
I'm curious. I think this is a bridge too far.
I'm very pro Israel. I think that we have to
make sure that if and when, and by the way,
the Gaza Strip at this point is truly unlivable. I
(08:12):
mean you've looked. I think Rubio was right. You looked
at the aerial photographs. I mean it has been leveled.
It has been leveled. I don't know how it will
ever be rebuilt, but I suspect over time it will
be what the Palestinians do. In the meantime, I don't
know how anyone can live there. There must be no electricity,
(08:34):
there must be no running water, there must be no
facilities of any sort of hospitals. It looks to me
like pure devastation. I would assume that Israel would be
thrilled if two of the other Arab nations are more
than two, but certainly Egypt and Jordan being the nearest,
(08:56):
I think, the most contiguous. They if they were to
accept the Palestinians, if the Palestinians return to Gaza, how
do you control Hamas? I mean, that's the problem. The
problem is not the Palestinians. The problem is Hamas, and
(09:18):
we can never again allow an October seventh to occur.
But if they continue, if Hamas continues to rule that area,
and Hamas insists they want more October sevenths, this is
Donald Trump thinking way outside the box. But I don't
(09:40):
know that it's I don't think it is. Even Republicans
in the Senate had issues and problems with it. So
I just want to open it up. I mean, is
this Obviously Donald Trump elected as a disruptor, no question,
and he is disrupting. And it's an idea that if it,
(10:04):
I mean, if it, if you could wave a magic wander.
You could take the Palestinians. There's almost like the Halffield
of McCoy's and say, okay, you're going to move at
different sides of the mountain. That would be wonderful. Six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty, six one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty.
Back on Night's side. Your phone calls right after this.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
All right, so Donald Trump here is is throwing ideas
out fast and furious, and I'm not sure that this one.
There must be a method behind the madness. But I
think that he's he's way out over his skis in
(10:56):
this one. But some of you might disagree. Let's see
six one, seven, two, ten thirty or six month, seven
nine thirty. We go to David and Jamaica plane. Hey, David, welcome,
How are you tonight?
Speaker 7 (11:08):
Very well? I'm very well, you know, And I've been
thinking about this for a while, and I think Donald
Trump has to take it one step further and we
need a three state what is it? A two state?
What do they call it? A two state? A two
state solution. I think Trump is pushing for the three
state solution. You've got the peaceful palaestin Ins, you've got
(11:30):
the peaceful Israelis, and then you've got animal kingdom. You
pay them all ten thousand, you carrate a killing field,
fence it off, and you give them all the money,
and they go in and you load it with weapons. Still,
why not you got David?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
I think, David, you're I know, look, I know sarcasm
when I hear it, it's funny, but it's it's it's
a tragic situation there, and I don't think it's something
that we can really make light off. To be honest
with you, you have Hamas that attacked innocent men and
(12:05):
women and children and literally slaughtered people. Israel had to
respond Israel Israel is in a situation with the proximity
of Hamas and which were elected. Hamas was elected by
the Palestinians, but Hamas has never had subsequent elections. I
would like to think that rational Palestinians would want nothing
(12:27):
to do with Hamas. I mean, how can you how
can you live in the same neighborhood and be like,
if you're fighting your your next door neighbor every day,
at some point one of you got to be smart
and moved. So I don't know.
Speaker 7 (12:40):
I think I think that you just said, you just said,
I'd like to think there are rational Palestinians, which which
they have to they are I've met. I mean, I work,
I work in a place where all everybody, with everybody
is every culture is loved at first and hate, you
(13:01):
know what I mean. It's like Hayn's learned at home.
You know what I mean. Racism is part at home
and all that you're born love it. I believe that
you're born love itte.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Sure, yeah, you know it's nature versus nurture. I understand
the argument, but it just so.
Speaker 7 (13:20):
How do you separate the hate and the good people
of Palestine? I mean, I think, to be perfectly honest,
when they were when they what did you see when
they when they when they were giving back the hostages
and the Hamas guys were all dressed in black with
their black masks, and they had gotten to it with
(13:42):
all the fans, and they loved it. They yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
And I also and I also think that they paraded
the hostages. I'm sure they paraded the hostages and made
the hostages, upon threat of reprisal, to wave and look
happy like they were thrilled. I might have been thrilled
to getting out, to be getting out out of there,
but they weren't through for four hundred and sixty five
days or whatever the number was. The captivity that they endured,
(14:06):
God knows what those young men and women and older
men and women were subjected to it at the.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
Hands of the major and Dan. I know that I
was flipping my personal statements with the three state solutions,
But how do you how do you how do you
solve something going on for a thousand years? Wow?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think that Israel
did a pretty good job of taking out simultaneously Iranian Hespo,
Lah and hamas leadership.
Speaker 8 (14:42):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
And obviously there was the additional lucky strike extra of
Asad leaving.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
They got they got the US Olympic people from the sixties,
all of them. Seventy two, Yeah, from seventy two, none
of those guys. But again, I pray, I pray for
the Middle East. I mean, it's Trump, maybe way out
over his skis, and maybe he brought somewhat of peace
(15:11):
to the Middle If that's the last spot in the world, well,
I don't know enough about but that that spot could
be well, yeah, look, you.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Know, people can can go back to biblical times and
talk about the enmity that existed. And we have one
friend in the region, one friend that we can count on,
and that is Israel, and we have to support Israel.
And I think that maybe what Trump was trying to do,
I'd like to think in a rational moment, was trying
to shake things up and saying, hey, let's see if
(15:43):
we can separate these two groups. And maybe he threw
it out there and just run it up the flag
Poland who who would salute it? I mean, I don't
I don't know. I mean, he's an unconditional precedent. He's
proved that the first seventeen or eighteen to.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Go ahead, it's been, it's been. But I love your
a little in a rational moment for Trump, so that
that kind of signifies a lot. But hey, let you
got to give the guy a chance with with with
what we've seen, I mean, uh uh, transgender puppet shows
in Burma, I mean, with yourself all right, But yeah,
(16:20):
thank you for the time, God bless you. I I
hope peace peace in the Middle East in my lifetime.
I would I would, I would, I would go to
I would go to the wherever it is happy man.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yeah, Well, I would just say to you that the
Abraham Accords there were there was a lot of progress
made during the Trump administration, even while it was under
you know, threats of impeachment and UH and and all
of that. The Abram Abraham Accords was something that the
Trump administration should look back upon with rod and if
(16:54):
they can extend those and if they can get Saudi Arabia,
Saudi Arabia is the big dog, UH in the neighbor.
If they can get Saudi Arabia to sign on to
the Abraham Accords, now we may have some you know,
some real possibilities.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
I don't Abraham Accords. I don't know. This particularly would
take too long to explain. But they were well, they
were well intentioned and well meaned. I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Well, what happened was that the Trump administration, and I
believe Jared Kushna was involved in that as well, had
worked with some of the smaller Middle Eastern countries, the
Arab countries, and they signed the Abraham Accords in Washington.
It would have been I believe in September of twenty twenty.
But that sort of was lost in the in all
(17:41):
the COVID stuff and in the impeachments. But that is
a base upon which this administration may be able to build. Obviously,
the Israelis have done an amazing job in the last
year and a half, for the last what is it
sixteen months in a eminating leader Hesala leadership, Humas leadership.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
You know Iranian?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
You know the guy that they killed in in in Lebanon.
He was five five stories underground and they hit him.
They hit that facility from three separate planes within a
matter of eight seconds. It's an extraordinary story. They and
the whole idea about the the beepers that were exploding
(18:30):
and then the walkie talkies. I mean it, it was brilliant.
And that's what I think. That's what you have to do.
You have to identify who's good who's bad, and you
got to root for the good guys. And I think
that that that the Israelis are the good guys. I'm
pretty clear on how I feel about that.
Speaker 7 (18:47):
Okay, there's Talistonian Tealasanans and are beautiful loving.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Race, absolutely absolutely and they Yeah, I mean that doesn't
mean that during World War Two every German was a Nazi,
but the Nazis controlled the population in Germany, and I
think Hamas for fifteen years now or more has controlled
the Palestinian population, and Hamas culminating obviously with that horrific
(19:14):
October seventh attack. Anyway, David, thanks.
Speaker 7 (19:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
You're welcome to go take quick break at is ten
thirty one. Your thoughts, I mean, could this potentially lead
to Sometimes it is said that it's darkest before the dawn.
I mean, maybe there's the potential here of a dawn
in the Middle East. Netnya who certainly has survived politically
(19:44):
and militarily, Israel is in better condition today. Militarily, Iran
is on its heels. I have no idea what the
new leadership of Siria will be, but there's a possibility
that they might be sane, they might be rational. Uh.
The only lines open right now is six months, seven
(20:05):
nine three. This is serious stuff. And I know that
there are a lot of people who inherently don't like
Donald Trump, which is fine. And when I heard this,
my initial reaction and my reaction is still that's a
little bit out over his skis, but it does shake
it up a little bit. Just to talk about it.
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Should we have troops in in Gaza? No, we don't
need troops in Gaza. We're talking about cutting the government,
the cost of government here. How can we turn around
and take what would be trillions of dollars to rebuild Gaza.
I don't think that's conceivable. I have no idea. That's
(20:47):
why I invite you to join the conversation. The only
lines are six months, seven, nine thirty.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Back after this, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray.
I'm WAZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
We're talking about Donald Trump's suggestion that somehow, some way,
the United States could rebuild Gaza. He talked about this
during his press conference with Benjamin Yaho the other day.
Not Yahoo has has I think endorsed the idea generally.
But I'm getting your response to it. We'll keep rolling here,
(21:26):
Gonna go to Matt next. Matt, appreciate your calling in.
Next on Nightside, your thoughts on the President's proposal. I
think he's a little over his skis.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
Agree to disagree, Well, he's out over his.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
He's out there, Dan, And let me congratulate you on
your on your show. But you know, on a serious,
no serious topic, I'll say that you know, recognition to
you for another time.
Speaker 7 (21:54):
Look, this is a difficult topic.
Speaker 9 (21:59):
There's a situation where Gazza has been leveled, okay, and
Gazza was in a situation where they are run by
a militant group. That militant group is not going to
go away, and that militant group is going to going
to say so, now, how it's spun the US getting
(22:20):
involved in rebuilding or taking ownership. Yet that's a far out,
a little bit like what what what's the end? Where
where's the sustenance of that process? Jordan does not want
to take them, Saudi says it's a non starter. Quote Yemen,
(22:41):
They're not going to take them. No other countries around
there want to have them, nor does Egypt, and that's
a big problem. So they need to be relocated for
humanitarian purposes. My heart, even though I'm a very big
Zionist and support Israel and Israel the Senate themselves, you
(23:06):
can't live in the conditions that causes in right now,
and they need to be relocated unless they want to
be adamant and stay there. I mean, and I think
my answer is kind of that. You know, if there's
US need to go in and take and kick?
Speaker 2 (23:23):
How do you how do you relocate I have no idea.
Is that two million, three million, four million people? How
do you do that? Well?
Speaker 9 (23:31):
I think it's one point I think it's one point five.
How do you relocate them? I don't think all two
million are going to want to stay. There's going to
be people. I think it's going to be probably fifteen
thousand to one hundred thousand who are going to not
want to leave. They'll live in those conditions, and how
(23:52):
do you relocate those people? That is where Trump's what
she said is not that far off skis, but why
the US is directly getting involved. I don't know it's
going to need to be because somebody's going to me
to finance this. The US already has an enormous that
(24:15):
we can't handle things in our own country. And ultimately,
the tragedy here is that there are somebody who comes
from a you know, it's rarely citizens, and you know,
a heritage and you know who have lived there.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
You know there's such.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
Good Palestinians who work hard and people in Gazas who
were caught up by come off. And fifty percent of
these people are under eighteen. And that's the tragedy of
this in my mind. Yet, sixty percent of the people
in a survey of US about a thousand people in
(24:56):
Daza did support the ongoing come Os violence toward Israel
after October seventh.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
How much did you say they did they do polls?
Speaker 9 (25:08):
You said, yes, there were poles. I can't put them
on the phone with you. I can't quote it back.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Okay, but you quoted it. You quoted the number. What
was the number of zero six sixty sixty.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
Fort Comos And that's where you have to worry then,
because you know, let's just say it does get rebuilt,
goed to be a you know, a decade long, you
know situation, and if not longer, it's gonna be funded.
Speaker 7 (25:40):
But then you get.
Speaker 9 (25:43):
Militant groups that are going to pop back up potentially stronger.
You know, this is going on in the West Bank
right now, and it was only silenced because the West
Bank and Gaza are two different militant groups within.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
So I don't know, okay. So you were not optimistic
that we will ever have some sort of a piece,
truly piece in the Middle East.
Speaker 9 (26:12):
I'm not optimistic at all. I'll just say, when nobody's
innocent but two days after the piece deal and people
go and they're any food center eating and there's on
behalf of kam offs people who are stabbing people in
open food center, which happened two days after twice, just declaring, ghod,
(26:35):
how can you meddle with that? How can you go
against that? It's always going well?
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Arguably No, arguably, Then maybe you look at the Trump
situation to say it's something that has to it has
to be done. As as challenging as it is. I guess,
I don't know, it could take you in a different, uh,
in a totally different direction. Matt. Let me keep rolling.
You see what other folks have to say. I appreciate
your perspective, Thank you very much. Let me go to
(27:02):
Frank in Boston. Frank, your thoughts on the President Trump's
I don't know. I certainly can't call it a plan.
I'll call it his musings.
Speaker 8 (27:13):
He is turning on every promise that he promised the
American people. He said he wasn't gonna get us involved
in outside wards and he said he's gonna keep us
at home. He said he's gonna do something with the economy.
He just wanted to take two different countries, our best
(27:33):
best trading partner, and he wanted to raise everything that
they sell to us, and we would have to end
up paying the price. And nothing. Eggs are going up,
Gas is starting to go up. Everything he promises not
coming to fruition, and you guys are supporting him saying
(27:54):
that we should, that we should own gather and we
should send troops over there.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
I didn't say that, Frank, I don't know if you
listen to me, but I never said that.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
Ruby Rubio said it. The Defense Department, the defense arm
of the Israeli government, just came out the other earlier today.
I think and sit and agreed with it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Well, let me take one of the Let me take
one of Let me take one of the points that
you raised, which is an interesting point, and let me
get your response to it. So President Trump threatened tariffs
of against Mexico and Canada, right right, right, correct, It's
(28:43):
on pause for a month, but apparently both countries said
they would increase the number of their military on their
borders to try to intercept drug smugglers into the country.
I mean, right now, we do have a problem really
emanates in China with fentanyl coming into this country. And
(29:04):
killing young people. You sound like a young guy, so
I'm sure you're you're hip to this thing. Well, you
sound a lot younger, Frank, take that as a compliment, okay.
But his his stated concern, whether you accept it or not,
is the number of drugs coming in the country. So
(29:24):
if by threatening tariffs against Mexico and Canada, he's got
them both to bolster the number of UH military their
military that is on their border to intercept the flow
of fentanyl into the country, is that a bad thing?
Speaker 8 (29:44):
No? But from where I understand, the deal that he
supposedly got was already in the works the bil administration.
You already coming up with something like that. Not only that,
the administration came up with the Night Supporter, a plan
by the Conservatives to tighten the border, and presidence he
(30:06):
said no to it.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But wait a second, hold on, you mixed it a
couple of things. Frank. Let me just ask you a question, okay,
and then I'll listen to your answer. The Biden administration
had four years in which we saw people pouring over
the border every day, we saw.
Speaker 8 (30:24):
Drugs and were coming down.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
They came down. In the last couple of months, there
have been seventy thousand people, and the Biden administration they
came down after Trump had won the election. On November fifth,
the number of fentanyl deaths in this country sixty seventy thousand,
mostly young people. Not people my age or your age,
but mostly young people try this stuff. They don't even
(30:51):
know what they're trying, and they're dead. The Bide administration
had four years they said the borders were secure. They weren't.
They weren't secure, and somehow by Trump, by threatening tariffs,
said okay, you know, Canada and Mexico said okay, we'll
put some troops to the border. I don't think that's
a bad.
Speaker 8 (31:10):
Thing, but I just I just I just said.
Speaker 11 (31:15):
I just mentioned that these plans or these deals were
already in the world fire fire the administration, and they
were coming online, and he didn't really too long because
it was already there.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I mean, if they weren't already there, if he had,
if he had to be okay, the Biden administration in
four years, let me ask you whether that were the troops.
Here's my question. Were the Mexican troops and the Canadian
troops deployed to the border before Trump became president or
after he became president.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
From where I'm here, who were going to be there anyway? Okay,
the deal was set already.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Okay, the other first person who has told me that
I will accept. I'm trying to accept what you tell me.
But go ahead.
Speaker 8 (32:07):
We're talking about it the other night on the news shows.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
I can only speak to Biden administration had four years.
For four years, the borders were open. The Mexicans never
had troops that were serious about stopping the floor of
mental and fentanyl. The Canadians were more serious, but there
were more. There was more fentanyl coming over the border
when Biden left office than when he came into office.
Speaker 8 (32:36):
But Sir, during the Trump administration, in this four years,
he wasn't to do anything either.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I think if you look back at the numbers, Frank,
if you go back and look at the numbers of people,
it's difficult to quantify how much fentanyl came over the border.
The only thing you could look at I guess at
the number of deaths that came that that occurred. But
if you look at the numbers of people that came
over the borders, I guarantee you there were more people
that came over the borders during the Biden administration than
(33:07):
the first Trump administration. Frank, we've gone about seven minutes here.
I always appreciate your calls, whether we agree or disagree,
but I got a break here, So I I hate
to do this to you because I I don't want
to feel you that you get short change. I appreciate
your calls.
Speaker 8 (33:23):
Cant what he said he was gonna do, he's not
He's not doing what he said he was gonna do.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Well, there's a lot of things that he said he
was gonna do. He signed the executive orders, Frank, and
I don't have the time to list all of those
right now.
Speaker 8 (33:37):
But and now all go put us in the poorhouse,
and all of them put us. It may be in
some type of dispute overseas.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
We'll see, we'll see. I want you to continue to
be a listener, continue to be a call, and we'll
continue our conversations. Thanks, Ryll, A good one. Good night
back on Nightside right after this, now.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Back to Dan Ray Window World night Side Studios on
WBZ the News Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Okay, let's keep going here. We're going to try to
get a couple in before the break, and we'll continue
the conversation on the other side of we go to
Tom and Lee and Tom next on Nisiger right ahead.
Speaker 12 (34:13):
I'm daying. Oh my god, that last caller. Good God,
enough of that, But anyway, you're back. Good for US
four thousands broadcasts, outstanding, outstanding.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Appreciate, fourth collar than nightside programs. Yeah, going back to
two thousand and seven.
Speaker 12 (34:29):
Okay, a couple of things Rubio I could. I was
never too keen on him, but I'm kind of warming
up to him.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Okay.
Speaker 12 (34:37):
Two, the guys are one hundred and forty square miles.
It's unlivable. Two point one million Palestinians. Where they're going
to go? Egypt doesn't want him. Jordan's not going to
take anymore. The Jordanians fought a war against the Palestinians
in like nineteen seventy. It only lasted four days. That
Jordanians made short workout of it. They don't want anymore.
(34:59):
Fast forward five six months ago elections in Jordan. The
Palestinian Party is now the largest party in the Jordanian Parliament.
It's the I J F CHI I forget the acronym,
but it's the Palestinians. I don't know where they're going
to go. I know the I know the problems. I
don't have any solutions. We keep talking about Hamasque with
(35:19):
the Palestinians and Hezbola in Lebanon. The key is Iran.
I know the problem. I don't have the solution. Go ahead, No,
I'm with you.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Uh, the key is Iran. But I'm hoping. I'm hoping
that maybe, uh, there's a breakthrough, uh and that something
good's going to happen. I wish I knew. I wish
I knew, and I just think, uh, I think Trump
is out over his skeys. I think he was freelancing
(35:51):
at that. All the reports suggested that his staff were
kind of taking aim back by it, although Rubio kind
of fell in line. I don't know what he was doing.
I really don't, honest with you.
Speaker 12 (36:01):
You know what it was. It was Dan, That was
Trump being Trump. He throws whatever he can throw against
the wall. That sticks, It sticks, if it doesn't, it doesn't.
And as you say, he's he's over his head, he's
over match here. You just I don't know. Again, I
know the problems. I don't have the solutions. It's two
point one million Palestinians where they're going to go.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Nobody will you set it up nicely. Let's see what
people have to say. See if people react to what
you have to say.
Speaker 12 (36:27):
All right, I'll see you.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Thank you, Thank you. Tom, appreciate your call. Thank you much.
Let me get one more in here before the break.
I'm going to go to Mark in Lexington. Mark you
and next on nice I got a couple of minutes
for you. Go right ahead.
Speaker 10 (36:42):
Jeez, thank you. I appreciate it. Jan Donald Trump, President Trump.
All he did was pumped to be a mister of
the pot. He knows we're never gonna build the river there.
He knows it's gonna change and gout. But you're just
trying to show people. Then might be an alternative. But
(37:06):
you know what, though, I do construction, I've got it
all over the world. Philippines Filipidos are imported to do
work in the Middle East. Nobody will hire the Palestinians.
I am not a racist. It's just what it is.
I've seen it. It's the Palestinians cause problems. They have
(37:28):
an agenda that's not accepted by mobile.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Can Can we at least draw a distinction between the
Palestinians and Hamas? Uh?
Speaker 10 (37:38):
Exactly? There's more good Palestinians, I hope, than the Hamas members.
I'm sorry I misspoke. You are correct, you don't mistake.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I was just I was just clarifying it. The difference
is the mass has weapons. You know, THETA may not
have a Second Amendment over there, but the guys with
the guns are ruling.
Speaker 10 (37:59):
And they keep track of who votes which way. It's
like the general population is intimidated if they don't vote
the right way. And Donald Trump knows none of this
will ever happen. He's stirring the pot. But you know, admit,
if nobody in your neighborhood wants to I hate to generalize,
(38:21):
what are they doing wrong? Meanwhile everyone blames what a
weasonally wrong.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
We'll look in.
Speaker 10 (38:28):
The mirror to I mean, give a little bit of
tense for how many years help us help you? It
is my thought.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
All right, let's see if people. I got you in
before the wire, I got the eleven o'clock news coming
at me. Mark, always appreciate your participation. I'm interested to
find out the different places you've work. Called back some
other time because it sounds to me like you had
an interesting career.
Speaker 10 (38:56):
It's been a lot of fun, did I take care
of God bless.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Thanks, Thanks Mark, talk to you soon. Here comes the eleven.
The only line open is six one seven two five.
We just filled. We got full lines. We'll keep dialing
after after the news here and we'll get you. I promise.
We've got some time. We got a one hour left
here on night side.
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