February 20, 2025 • 38 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
New Additions to the Tanglewood 2025 Popular Artist Series Lineup! Our guest is Alex Speir, Director of Marketing and Audience Development at the Boston Symphony Orchestra.
Blackstone Heritage Corridor’s Trail Ambassadors to Guide Spring Hiking Series Through Region. Donna Williams - Blackstone Heritage Corridor Board Member joined Dan Rea.
The Peaceful Parenting (R)evolution: Changing the World by Changing How We Parent. A look at parenting styles & how they’ve changed, with author Kiva Schuler – Founder of the Jai Institute for Parenting.
Red Bull Heavy Metal Snowboarding Contest comes to Boston City Hall Plaza! Grace Warner – Red Bull Snowboarder checked in with Dan.
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
New Additions to the Tanglewood 2025 Popular Artist Series Lineup! Our guest is Alex Speir, Director of Marketing and Audience Development at the Boston Symphony Orchestra.
Blackstone Heritage Corridor’s Trail Ambassadors to Guide Spring Hiking Series Through Region. Donna Williams - Blackstone Heritage Corridor Board Member joined Dan Rea.
The Peaceful Parenting (R)evolution: Changing the World by Changing How We Parent. A look at parenting styles & how they’ve changed, with author Kiva Schuler – Founder of the Jai Institute for Parenting.
Red Bull Heavy Metal Snowboarding Contest comes to Boston City Hall Plaza! Grace Warner – Red Bull Snowboarder checked in with Dan.
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio and listen to NightSide with Dan Rea Weeknights From 8PM-12AM!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks Nicole. In spite of all of that, folks, I'm
here till midnight, and many of you will be as well.
My name is Dan Ray, host of Nightside, and we
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is back to you. Just feeling it's that holiday is
long in your rear view mirror. I bet it is.
Oh man, I know the feeling. I know the feeling. Okay,
we have four interesting guests coming up at the first
hour a little bit later on sight Boy, if you
live in Summerville, you better shovel your drive, your sidewalk
or you could be in big trouble. I'm gonna talk
(01:32):
about that at nine o'clock, and then we're going to
talk about baggage bin battles on airlines across the country.
I think it's nuts. Flying has become a problem. It's
not what it is to be. Let's put it like that,
and I think a lot of it has been contributed
by the airlines. We'll get to all of that. First off,
(01:53):
like to to introduce you to Alex Spear. Alex is
the director of Marketing and Audience Development at the Bosston
Symphony Orchestra. Alex, Welcome to Night Side. How are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh my gosh, thank you Dan so much for the
warm introduction. I'm doing great. I know it's cold out,
but i have visions of summer already in my mind
and I'm super happy to talk with you.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, cold, I think it was beautiful today. I mean
it was almost like summer like today, the wind would
die down. And who doesn't want to talk about Tanglewood
at any time of the year, And we're going to
talk tonight about Tanglewood, which is right around the corner
as far as I'm concerned, one of the great great
activities of the summer here in New England Tanglewood. The
(02:34):
twenty twenty five Popular Artist Series lineup. Tell us about
some of the great acts musical acts that we're going
to see out of Tanglewood this summer.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Alex Yeah, absolutely, I have to say the Popularist Series
is one of my favorite parts of the job. We
get to create this really cool lineup of folks from
the rock and the folk and jazz sectors are coming
together to this incredibly beautiful space to have a party basically.
(03:05):
So this year we've got some really cool stuff coming
up up front. In June, we have a Prairie Home
Companion that hasn't been at Tanglewood in about five years
or so, and we're super excited to welcome back this
like really cool comedy musical storytelling event with the host
Garrison Keeler. So this is something that I've heard from
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folks far and wide that they've come to Tanglewood to
see in the past. Now's the time to come see
it again. We're super excited to welcome Garrison and.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
A five year absence. Yeah, he's off in a fixture
in a lot of folks mind. Yeah, that's great. Where's
he ben? The question? He should be there every year.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
He's very I agree. You know, he was doing a
solo tour in New England last year and I went
up in the summer and I saw him in it
and it was one of the most fun things I've
seen in a long while. So we cannot contain our
excitement to welcoming back Une twenty first.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
He's June twenty or seven o'clock. And then you get
James Taylor for two nights of the Night before the
fourth and the night of the fourth.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's right, you know, James Taylor is the Tanglewood legend.
He has been with us for decades, coming on the
July fourth and the July third evenings. These are really
special concerts. You know, people come from fire and wide
to hear their favorite songs. You know, everybody's got a favorite.
Mine might be you know, Carolina on my mind, and
he just creates this really intimate evening even though there are,
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you know, thousands of people with you enjoying an incredible
living legend. And if you get to come on July fourth,
you get to see fireworks too, and that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
But I'm going to warn folks. The concert on the
fourth of July on your website says it's already sold out,
So if they're James Taylor fans, they better be thinking
about July third pretty quickly because that will probably sell
out pretty quickly. So it says sold out July.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, that's exactly right, We're currently sold out. I always
check the website. You never know what shows up, all right,
And then yeah, moving on after that July eighth, we're
really excited to welcome Baar Naked Ladies. They're doing a
tour with Sugar Ray and Fastball and so you know,
this is the perfect nineties two thousands nostalgia tour. There
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on top of their game, they're going to play the
greatest hits. It's gonna be a really fun party. You know.
I was just listening this week to one week and
every morning, and it's just it took me back right
to the moment. So I think it's gonna be a
really cool experience.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Here's my question. Okay, For first of all, July eighth
is my birthday, so that's always very special. I do
not share birthday. Were oh J. Simpson, he was July ninth,
I'm July eighth. But Beard Naked and eight Ladies I
could never figure. And I know a lot of sports
less about music. Where did they come up with that
(06:03):
idea beard naked ladies? They're not ladies and they're not
bare naked.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
That is a great question. I don't have the answer
for why they chose the name, but they they I mean,
you know, early nineties, late eighties. You want to choose
a name that gets you recognitions.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Good one. Yeah, a lot of people showed up to
the concert not not expecting what they got. But that's
that's neat. They're hearing it there and then later on
later we're on in the summer, you got Emmy Lou
Harris and Graham Nash tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, all right, So this is a really special concert
because they're both going to perform. They're each going to perform.
They're full sets, so they're going to do a first
half the second half where they're going to come on
stage independently and they're going to sing their greatest hits.
And Emmy Lou, Harris Graham Nash are some of the
best composers of their their day and probably even today.
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And you know, Graham Nash found of Crosby, Stills, Nash
and Young. You know, he's written some really legendary classics
and he has a good blend of this kind of
folk rock, social commentary. He's definitely a voice of the generation.
And so is Emmy Lou, who is going to just
kind of give us a night of storytelling magic.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
This is a great lineup, and you finish off sadly
on the night of August thirty first, which is always
a tough night because you're trying to hold on the summer.
The next day is September first, But you've got a
great artist on the thirty first of August.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
We absolutely do. Bonnie Ray is going to come back
to Tanglewood, and she is a legend. She is just
you know, slide guitar, soulful voice. She's going to sing,
you know, all the hits that you know and love.
She's literally a powerhouse and she brings the house down.
So I'd say keep your eyes open. We might be
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announcing other stuff in the future. Hint, hints, check our
website Tanglewood dot org. But it's going to be a great,
great season.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay, So look, you get tickets to Tanglewood dot org.
It's never too early to do it, you know. Make
sure the seats don't go allway. It's it is a
jewel of every summer in New England and I just, uh,
it warms me right now just to think about this.
(08:27):
I'm ready for summer. I'm ready for spring. Alex, your
great guest, you, your enthusiasm is contagious. Thank you so
much for joining us tonight, and the best of luck
with this summer and keep us posted on and they
have the guests you have. We always like to talk
about good summer evenings. I mean, we don't have as
many as we deserve here in New England, and they're
(08:47):
all great at Tanglewood.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Thanks so much, Thank you so much for having me.
I'll see you on the lune.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I hope so, I hope, so thanks Alex. All right,
waken back. We're going to talk about an other New
England tradition. Perhaps not as well known as Tanglewood, but
the black Stone Heritage card trail. I'm gonna be talking
with Donald Williams on the other side of this break.
My name's Dan Ray. This is WBZ. You are listening
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after this with another really interesting guest.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, last segment we talked about Tanglewood in the summer,
let's talk about the black Stone Heritage. Carter's in the spring.
They have a spring hiking series and with us as
Donna Williams, he's just board member of the Blackstone Heritage Karda.
Donald Wiideside.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Hello, Jan, I'm so glad to be here. Thanks so
much for having me.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Well, I'm glad you were here too. When I had
a little hesitation, I said, boy, I hope Donna is here.
So tell us I think everyone knows in New England
should know kind of the location of the Blackstone River.
It's down kind of in the southeast corner of the state,
maybe a little bit more towards the middle southeast corner
of the state. If you will locate us for us
(10:39):
and tell us about this great series you have these
trail Ambassadors. How long have you folks been doing.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
This, Well, we've had the Trail Ambassadors have been active
for well, they were active before COVID, and then it
kind of took a hiatus during COVID, although people were
certainly out and about a whole lot more in the
fresh air. But now since COVID they've done many, many
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of these hikes. They've just finished up the Winter series
and now we're doing the Spring series. But your correct
is to the location of the Blackstone River. But what
this all is part of is the Blackstone River Valley
National Heritage Corridor, which is a geographic area that encompasses
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twenty five communities, towns and cities from Worcester all the
way to Providence. And this area is nationally significant and
it's known as the birthplace of the American Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Sure, so, how many different how many different trails are
there to choose from these trails that are laid out?
Or are these trails that want of your ambassadors would
know and he would take people on a hike through
the woods? Explain that to us.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Well, there are twelve hikes planned with the Leader between
March eighth and June fourteenth. They're on Saturday or Sunday
once a week through those months, and they're on existing trails.
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Some of them are in state forests, some of them
are at farms conservation areas.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
How challenging it, I'm sure people out there saying, she,
I'd like to do this, But we're talking about up
and down hillsides? Are they do you have to have
special equipment or is it something that most folks can do?
How long are we talking about I'm just trying to
make sure that people take advantage of this if they're
if they are able to, that's.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
All right, varying levels of expertise. You never need equipment
you might want to bring your hiking poles, but often
it's it's flat. But it's always on trails that are
well marked and UH people can find out, well.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You're not really you're not talking when you when you
hear the word trails, you're not talking about you know,
going up a half a mile or whatever, you know,
and then having to come down and or over rocks
or anything there. It's it's fairly flat ground. And how
how long a couple of miles each or more?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well it firies. Some of them are four miles, some
are two. People can find out more about these UH
trail hikes on our website Blackstone Heritage Quarter dot org
and they can.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
All We'll give that a couple of times because that's important.
They also can do what.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
They can also RSDP on the website for these for
these trails, and they give a good description of each
of the trails and the degree of difficulty. None of
them are difficult.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But what's the cost associated with this? Is there a ticket?
And then I assume you you give a little bit
of a gratuity to your to your guide.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Well, no, no, this is all free and it's it's
these are the leaders are volunteers, uh Phil from Massachusetts
and Ernie in Rhode Island. They volunteer their time and
expertise because they love being out in the woods and
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exploring them with new folks and helping all of them
learn to love this area.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Any special I'm assuming that folks should at least wear
their most comfortable shoes. You don't want to be out
there on high heels, I assume. And is it smart
to have uh, you know, pants that are long pants,
and maybe even pants that are are you can tie
them up a little bit so you're not picking up
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ticks or something like that. I don't want to intimidate anyone,
but I just want to make sure that they show
up prepared.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Well, did you raise a good point. Yes, it's a
good idea to have long pants on. Maybe tuck your
pants into your socks, but good hiking shoes, long sleeves, hat, sunglasses, sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah. Okay, Well, I just think that you and I
might take that for granted, but someone might not. So
I assume, because they're different trails, you'll get directions as
to where you would park. I assume that there's a
meeting place for each of these these trails.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Heads correct, Yes, and that is on the website.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It's very specific.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, bet trails and where they start.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Usually they're loops. Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, sure, because when you're done, that's for sure. And
people can bring can they bring some refreshments with them
if they want to, you know, bring some water or
or ginger ale or something. I assume that's.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Allowed, absolutely, and it is recommended to bring bring water,
especially to keep yourselfs hydrated.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Okay, so let's do this. And by the way, all ages,
as long as people look at the website and make
sure whether they're you know, six or ninety six, I.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Assume yes, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Give us that website one more time so that people
can get to there as easily.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yep. Blackstone Heritage Corridor dot com. So the first one, yep, yep.
All onward and the first one.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Give us the date in the first one, I'm getting up.
I'm coming up on our newscast at the bottom of
the hour, which I got to cut away. So when
is the when's the first one start? How soon?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Saturday March eighth, that's a week from.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It's like a couple of weeks from now. That's great. Yeah, yeah,
Rainer Shine at this rainer, shine or snowstorm. I assume.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah. Well like football games, the football game goes on
whatever the weather, so I just want to make sure
that everybody dresses appropriately. Well. Donna, thank you very much
for all of the information. I know I pushed you
a little bit here to try to get as much
information in as possible, but I want to make sure
many of our listeners take advantage of this. It sounds
like a great opportunity, and it's it's not very expensive
(17:50):
at all. It's just going to make sure perfect all right,
Thanks again, Donna. Well, we'll maybe talk about this one
more time before uh maybe sometime in April. We can
catch up with you and give you a little bit
of plug for some of the some of the other
events and activities. Okay, you good guests, Thank you so.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Much, Thank you so much. Bite You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Coming back right after the news at the bottom of
the ar I'm right on time. It's eight thirty. We're
going to talk with a concept called peaceful parenting. Stay
with us on Night Side.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well, many of us during our lifetime we'll experiencing parenting
as parents all of us experiencing experienced parenting while we're children,
and with us is Kiva Schulch. She's an author and
founder of an institute for parenting. I want to pronounce
this correctly, Kiva. Is it the High Institute or Jay
(18:49):
Jay Jai Jai Institute for Parenting? And you talk about
peaceful parenting? I think I know what you mean by that,
but I'd like to hear your explanation of what is
peaceful parenting.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
It's funny. I started the Gaian Institute for Parenting in
two thousand and nine, and we've moved away from that
word a little bit because it can be misleading. Parenting
is not always peaceful. Children are certainly not always peaceful.
This idea that as parents we can work on our
own emotional intelligence, our communication strategies, and our leadership so
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that we are providing mentorship and guidance to children rather
than reacting to behavior or reacting to external pressure is
how I would define it.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
But I understand it's a tricky word.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah it is, and I know it's been around for
a while. It's called The Peaceful Parenting. Your book, I believe,
is called The Peaceful parenting revolution. We are in parentheses
or the peaceful parenting evolution, changing the world by changing
how we parent. A look at parenting styles and how
they've changed. I think all of us understand that kids
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today are brought up differently than when kids my age
in the fifties and sixties were brought up. Is it
better today in your in your opinion? And were going
in the right direction in terms of how we're rearing
children raising children?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
You know, I like to move away from ideas of
better or worse.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
It's different.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
We live in a completely different world.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
We grew up in a time where we didn't have
social media. There wasn't so many external influences, you know,
parenting our children, our parenting children in our absence. It's
a different world. You know, when we were kids being
raised to be compliant and follow the rules with kind of.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
The path to success.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
But kids today really need to be more collaborative, to
be risk takers, to be innovators. It's just a different
time and so that requires different skill sets in our
leadership as parents.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
So what are the skill sets that parents today, uh need?
I I am now a grandparent, and my son and
his wife have a son, and they're hopefully keeping our
fingers crossed on expecting a second and our daughter and
her husband have at this point not become parents yet.
(21:19):
But what what? What? What? Again? How does? How is
it changed? I mean when when I was growing up
and I had a you know, a parent and oftentimes
your dad was like the drill sergeant and and your
mom was the was the support. You know what I'm saying.
I mean, the more traditional parents of the nineteen fifties
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and sixties very different now response parent parental responsibilities are shared.
Life is complicated. What should people take away from our conversation?
Hopefully they're going to take away they're going to buy
and read the book. But in case they do, what
what What is the message that that that you want
to impart to them?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
I think that every family is unique, and every child
is unique, and it's important for us to consider what
the values are that matter within our family ecosystem and
how we are going to intentionally teach and model those
values to our children. I think generations of kids and parents,
you know, we always hear like the kids these days,
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and we're certainly hearing it now.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Kids are entitled. Kids aren't launching. There's a lot of
very real concerns around the mental health of children.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Kids aren't launching.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
What does that mean, you know, aren't going out into
the world and getting jobs. They're moving back in after college,
you know, don't seem to be moving into adulthood with
a sense of independence.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
What's a tough economy too. Kids today are being caught
in this economy, you know different. So I want to
make sure we're not blaming the kids on that one.
If it's this exactly economy that we have created for them,
and whether or not there's opportunities. Each generation, I guess
has the concerns and the problems. But in terms of
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the relationship between parent and child, how do you strike
that balance between being loving and supportive while not being indulgent.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I think that balance is exactly the right word. So
it is wholly possible to hold our children to high standards,
to have expectations, to set limits, to have boundaries, and
do that with compassion and empathy and guidance. You know,
a lot of us were raised in ways where it
was about taking us down a nature two and a
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lot of what we talk about at the Giant Institute
for Parenting and in my books, the peaceful parenting revolution
is scaffolding children up, building skills of communication, of how
to express emotions and feel them without letting them be
the thing that keeps you from doing hard things. I
think this generation of kids hasn't quite frankly, been exposed
(24:04):
and speaking generally to enough adversity and enough challenge, and
that's where maturity comes from. And so our work at
JAI is very parent centric because what we want to
support parents to do is to understand why they're afraid
of their kids having big feelings, or why they're afraid
that they might get hurt or fail or have disappointments.
(24:24):
That doesn't actually help in the long term.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, I've listened to psychiatrists who have said that the
best thing a parent can do is allow their child
to fail. Do you buy into that?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Absolutely? Listen, life is hard. You know, we're all going
to have failures. You know, fail more tends to be
my way of thinking about, certainly how I've grown businesses
over the years. And if you, you know, become an
eighteen year old child who's never failed or never been disappointed.
And obviously that's a little bit hyperbolic. It can be
(24:57):
very destabilizing when and you know, my kids are in
college now and I look at the parents boards. You know,
when a kid doesn't get into the sorority they want,
or they don't get the dorm they want, It's like,
I want to celebrate that with my child instead of
try to protect them from it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, yep, I remember. I remember my grandparents particularly well,
my paternal grandfather and both of my grandmothers. I didn't
know my my I didn't know my paternal grandfather very well,
but I knew my maternal grandfather and my maternal grandmother.
(25:35):
She had a basically saying whenever we walked in the house,
children should be seen and not heard. She was kind
of old school, just a lot of us that, yeah,
children should be seen and not heard. It was like, oh,
sit in the room and be quiet. I assume that's
no longer invokee. I hope.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I mean there's not a magical switch. And I think
that's really changed. You know, I think that by and large,
children are not treated that way, and especially here in Boston,
right like, children are very valued and we want to
engage them in conversation and include them in life and
have them have an achievement orientation, right, want them to
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you know, debate at the dinner table and things like that.
So I think that that, you know, that's probably not
thing that a lot of us were parented with that
were magically trying to shange. Well, this is amazing, incredible things.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Obviously, my maternal grandmother has passed on. So I go
back and I think I should be seen and not heard.
I was a reporter on television here in Boston for
thirty one years, so I was seen. But now I've
been heard as a talk show host for eighteen years.
So she got the first part right, but not the
second part. I'm glad.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I'm curious with things like that, like what age am
I allowed to be seen and heard?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Because they're like a switch at some point.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, right, right, Well, it's an admonition that obviously I
didn't comply with. Although when we were at the home
of my maternal grandparents, we were very well behaved. I
can remember they We enjoyed going there, don't get me wrong,
And the highlight for me, one of the things that
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I really enjoyed was and again this is not this
is grandparenting. I'm focusing on grandparenting. I guess a little
bit more than I should because we're now a grandparent.
I remember being playing checkers with my grandfather, my mom's dad,
and he would never let me win. And I was
eight or nine, and then I finally figured out how
to win in checkers. I never let him win again,
(27:49):
and think that.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
So much better than if you'd bt you win.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So how can folks get the book?
I'm sure that we have only scraped the surface, and
I have enjoyed the conversation and thank you for indulging
me to try to figure out my own upbringing. The
book is the piece I love.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Hearing your stories.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yeah, you can find the book on Amazon. The Peaceful
Parenting Revolution and the GAI Institute for Parenting is the
world's leading parent coach training organization and we're online at
GI Institute for Parenting dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Now can people go to the GI Institute for Parenting
and actually learn from you as to some of your theories.
Obviously they can buy the book, and we want them
to buy the book, but also attend either classes or
seminars or what however you would describe them.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Absolutely, we certify parenting coaches because the work that we
do is parent centric and you know, teaching old dogs
new tricks does take support and a judgment free container.
So that's what coaches do. But we have so many
resources there around yelling, emotional intelligence, empowered communication. So yeah,
there's lots of good stuff, whether it's becoming a certified
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parenting coach with us or getting some of those free
resources there on the site.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Oh that's great. Kiva Schuler, the author and founder of
the Jai Institute for Parenting. The book that is The
Peaceful Parenting Revolution, available everywhere, particularly probably most easily on Amazon. Kiva.
I've really enjoyed this conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Thank you very much, Diane.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Such an honor to be here with you. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
All right, we'll talk again. I hope maybe we'll do
this one more time sometime later on this year. Thanks again.
Coming up right after the break, we're going to be
talking with a Red Bull snowboarder. This is a courageous
young woman named Grace Warner. There's no way I would
even attempt to what she to do, what she's able
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to do. We'll be back on Night's side. She's with
the Red Bull Heavy Metal twenty twenty five tour. I'll explain.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Now. Back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
All right, we're wrapping up our eight o'clock hour here,
and our fourth and final guest tonight is Grace Warner.
She's a Red Bull snowboarder. I know what a Red
Bull snowboarder is, Grace Warner, But why don't you explain
it to my audience what you do which is something
(30:33):
I would never even attempt. How were you tonight? Hi?
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
So.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Yeah, I just snowboard on handrails around the street.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Well, okay, so I assume that during the winter time
you can snowboard on snow, right right, Okay, that's how
you learned to snowboard soon, Yes, but.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
What you're going to see on Saturday is definitely a
twist on the snowboarding that you're used to seeing.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yes, yeah, you know. I want to make sure that
everybody understands we've seen snowboardings now at Olympic sport.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Correct, correct?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Okay, WI your Olympic sport obviously, So you have taken
those skills, and your colleagues have taken those skills, and
you have applied them year round in whatever weather, and
you use handrails, and you're going to be I believe,
at Boston City Hall Plaza in the next few days.
(31:39):
Tell us about that.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Yes, So on Saturday, me and about fifty of my
very talented snowboard friends will be at the City Hall
and we're going to be showing off our skills on
the stair sets and surrounding zones of that area. And
it's going to be definitely a show that you're not
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gonna want to miss.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, I would say you'd be displaying your skills because
they are incredible. What do you do and what do
your colleagues do? Amazes me. I would never try it
at my age, and I certainly wouldn't have tried it
at your age. How did you become a snowboard and
(32:26):
we'll talk about the event that I'm just a little
This is coming up on February twenty second, which is
two days from now, so people need to need to
rearrange their calendar for this weekend. How did you be
Can I ask? You never supposed to ask anyone of
their age these days, but I'm assuming this is a
young person sport.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
I'm twenty four, okay, Well, I started snowboarding at four
years old.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I started snowboarding four years Did you grow up in
in New England or a a winter type part of
the country.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
I actually grew up in Detroit. We had like little,
teeny little hills with toe ropes on them, and that's
where I learned how to first carve on my snowboard,
which led to me getting into the park.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
My was my producer was talking in my ear at
one point. Where did you grow up? I'm just wondering
if you If you if you tell me you grew
up in Phoenix, Arizona, and you learned how to snowboard
without the benefits of snow, that's interesting. If you tell
me you grew up in Manitoba Winnipeg, I would understand
that better. Where where did you How'd you learn this
skill that early?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
I grew up near Detroit. Okay, Yeah, we have snow there,
but not not mountains, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I mean Detroit. Detroit is north of some parts of Canada.
Actually geographically, I'm sure you know that living in Detroit.
A lot of people perhaps don't realize that. So, so,
how have you turned this set of skills or the
set of skills that you have. How did you figure out, Hey,
I'm really good at this and I can go on tour.
(34:10):
You're a professional snowboarder, is what you are. I mean
that I assume that this is your livelihood right.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Right, It is my entire life. I think just growing
up on a really small hill made snowboarding straight down
the mountain and carving get really boring really fast. So
I transitioned into park riding, and since we didn't have
a lot of terrain for big jumps and things like that,
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it just led me to hitting rails and other features
in the park, and then that led me to wanting
to film in the street, similar to street skateboarding. If
you've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
That before, Oh yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
So how much of the year everybody knows the football season.
Everybody knows when the baseball season is. How what what
is your season? When do you start I've talked to
rodeo people, I've talked to different you know, people who
have you know, seasonal jobs. How long does your does
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your schedule, your annual schedule run? When do you guys
start out on the road doing this and when do
you wrap it up?
Speaker 6 (35:22):
So it kind of depends on what kind of snowboarder.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
You are.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Most of us just chase the snow wherever, Like you
can snowboard year round around the globe anywhere, because you
can chase winter throughout the whole year. But usually I'll
start like early November to end of March.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
But there's places to snowboard over the summer for sure,
so kind of year round. I'm always always on board.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah. No, I remember learning in school that in the
Southern Hemisphere winter was our summer and vice. So I
get that. What's the what is the professional life expectancy
of snowboarders? This fascinates me. I can tell you that
baseball players generally peaking about twenty eight or twenty nine
unlist of knuckleball pitchers, and they get pitch into their forties.
(36:17):
But you know, this is a young person's sport. I'm guessing.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Yes, I'm not gonna lie to you. This question is.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Scary to me.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Okay, we'll let that one go.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
I guess. So, I guess. Really, it's just however long
your body lasts for you know, I mean, and being
a professional in any sport is difficult once you start
getting older, but there's ways to make it last forever.
I mean, can you can snowboard up until I don't know,
however long, however long your body lasts.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, there's not much snowboarding going on, I think in
senior citizen centers, but we'll leave that alone. So it's
the Red Bull Heavy Metal Tour. It's at Boston City
Hall Plaza. It's this Saturday, February two, Washington's birthday, and
you guys are going to be putting on a huge
exhibition from two in the afternoon until five thirty. It
(37:14):
should yeah. Great. Have you been to Boston before, Grace,
I have.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
I went to the Celtics game last year. It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Okay, have you ridden the rails at City Hall Plaza before?
So is this some terran that you're familiar with previously
or do you see it for the first time on
Saturday and say, okay, let's let's give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Actually, they're building features for this event, so none of
us have ever ridden on them, so it'll be new
to all of us and really exciting.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Well, it's going to be exciting for you guys. It's
certainly going to be exciting. How big is the troop
you said it's about fifty of you that are going
to be there participating, Is that.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
The number around fifty? I think yes.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
All right, well, welcome to Boston ahead of time, and
I hope you get a chance to see a little
bit of the city. It's it's a great city, there's
no doubt about that. And uh, I think you'll find
a good crowd there cheering. You're on on Saturday, and
folks can get information. They can just I guess go
to red Bull dot com, slash us hyphen Events, red
(38:21):
Bull heavy Metal Boston sounds great. Grace, Thank you so much.
Appreciate detail all the time. Okay, thanks so talk again.
Thanks Grace, you too, you too, and stay safe. Okay.
Coming up on the other side of the nine o'clock
news is going to talk about shoveling snow or not
shoveling snow and the consequences thereof in the city of Summerville.
(38:46):
I think this is gonna be an interesting topic. Hope
you stay with us. Back on nightside right after the
nine o'clock news,
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZY, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks Nicole. In spite of all of that, folks, I'm
here till midnight, and many of you will be as well.
My name is Dan Ray, host of Nightside, and we
carry on. Just like the post office snow rain Tornados,
they deliver the mail most of the time. We deliver
Nightside to you five nights a week, four hours a night,
(00:30):
from eight until midnight, no matter what else is going
on around the world. Anyway, remember any of you who
want to watch a sporting event, all I have to
do is turn the audio down on the sporting event.
They will put the score up on the screen every
once in a while. If you are an observant fan,
you'll be able to tell what's going on in the game.
(00:50):
And you can listen to Nightside. You can multitask. My
name's Dan Ray, host of Nightside, heard every Monday through
Friday night. As I mentioned, from eight to midnight. Right
here in w Busy, Rob Brooks, faithful producer of this program,
is back in the control room. Rob was off for
the holiday on Monday, but Rob, I suspect now everything
(01:11):
is back to you. Just feeling it's that holiday is
long in your rear view mirror. I bet it is.
Oh man, I know the feeling. I know the feeling. Okay,
we have four interesting guests coming up at the first
hour a little bit later on sight Boy, if you
live in Summerville, you better shovel your drive, your sidewalk
or you could be in big trouble. I'm gonna talk
(01:32):
about that at nine o'clock, and then we're going to
talk about baggage bin battles on airlines across the country.
I think it's nuts. Flying has become a problem. It's
not what it is to be. Let's put it like that,
and I think a lot of it has been contributed
by the airlines. We'll get to all of that. First off,
(01:53):
like to to introduce you to Alex Spear. Alex is
the director of Marketing and Audience Development at the Bosston
Symphony Orchestra. Alex, Welcome to Night Side. How are you tonight?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Oh my gosh, thank you Dan so much for the
warm introduction. I'm doing great. I know it's cold out,
but i have visions of summer already in my mind
and I'm super happy to talk with you.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, cold, I think it was beautiful today. I mean
it was almost like summer like today, the wind would
die down. And who doesn't want to talk about Tanglewood
at any time of the year, And we're going to
talk tonight about Tanglewood, which is right around the corner
as far as I'm concerned, one of the great great
activities of the summer here in New England Tanglewood. The
(02:34):
twenty twenty five Popular Artist Series lineup. Tell us about
some of the great acts musical acts that we're going
to see out of Tanglewood this summer.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Alex Yeah, absolutely, I have to say the Popularist Series
is one of my favorite parts of the job. We
get to create this really cool lineup of folks from
the rock and the folk and jazz sectors are coming
together to this incredibly beautiful space to have a party basically.
(03:05):
So this year we've got some really cool stuff coming
up up front. In June, we have a Prairie Home
Companion that hasn't been at Tanglewood in about five years
or so, and we're super excited to welcome back this
like really cool comedy musical storytelling event with the host
Garrison Keeler. So this is something that I've heard from
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folks far and wide that they've come to Tanglewood to
see in the past. Now's the time to come see
it again. We're super excited to welcome Garrison and.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
A five year absence. Yeah, he's off in a fixture
in a lot of folks mind. Yeah, that's great. Where's
he ben? The question? He should be there every year.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
He's very I agree. You know, he was doing a
solo tour in New England last year and I went
up in the summer and I saw him in it
and it was one of the most fun things I've
seen in a long while. So we cannot contain our
excitement to welcoming back Une twenty first.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
He's June twenty or seven o'clock. And then you get
James Taylor for two nights of the Night before the
fourth and the night of the fourth.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
That's right, you know, James Taylor is the Tanglewood legend.
He has been with us for decades, coming on the
July fourth and the July third evenings. These are really
special concerts. You know, people come from fire and wide
to hear their favorite songs. You know, everybody's got a favorite.
Mine might be you know, Carolina on my mind, and
he just creates this really intimate evening even though there are,
(04:37):
you know, thousands of people with you enjoying an incredible
living legend. And if you get to come on July fourth,
you get to see fireworks too, and that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
But I'm going to warn folks. The concert on the
fourth of July on your website says it's already sold out,
So if they're James Taylor fans, they better be thinking
about July third pretty quickly because that will probably sell
out pretty quickly. So it says sold out July.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, that's exactly right, We're currently sold out. I always
check the website. You never know what shows up, all right,
And then yeah, moving on after that July eighth, we're
really excited to welcome Baar Naked Ladies. They're doing a
tour with Sugar Ray and Fastball and so you know,
this is the perfect nineties two thousands nostalgia tour. There
(05:26):
on top of their game, they're going to play the
greatest hits. It's gonna be a really fun party. You know.
I was just listening this week to one week and
every morning, and it's just it took me back right
to the moment. So I think it's gonna be a
really cool experience.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Here's my question. Okay, For first of all, July eighth
is my birthday, so that's always very special. I do
not share birthday. Were oh J. Simpson, he was July ninth,
I'm July eighth. But Beard Naked and eight Ladies I
could never figure. And I know a lot of sports
less about music. Where did they come up with that
(06:03):
idea beard naked ladies? They're not ladies and they're not
bare naked.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
That is a great question. I don't have the answer
for why they chose the name, but they they I mean,
you know, early nineties, late eighties. You want to choose
a name that gets you recognitions.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Good one. Yeah, a lot of people showed up to
the concert not not expecting what they got. But that's
that's neat. They're hearing it there and then later on
later we're on in the summer, you got Emmy Lou
Harris and Graham Nash tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, all right, So this is a really special concert
because they're both going to perform. They're each going to perform.
They're full sets, so they're going to do a first
half the second half where they're going to come on
stage independently and they're going to sing their greatest hits.
And Emmy Lou, Harris Graham Nash are some of the
best composers of their their day and probably even today.
(06:57):
And you know, Graham Nash found of Crosby, Stills, Nash
and Young. You know, he's written some really legendary classics
and he has a good blend of this kind of
folk rock, social commentary. He's definitely a voice of the generation.
And so is Emmy Lou, who is going to just
kind of give us a night of storytelling magic.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
This is a great lineup, and you finish off sadly
on the night of August thirty first, which is always
a tough night because you're trying to hold on the summer.
The next day is September first, But you've got a
great artist on the thirty first of August.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
We absolutely do. Bonnie Ray is going to come back
to Tanglewood, and she is a legend. She is just
you know, slide guitar, soulful voice. She's going to sing,
you know, all the hits that you know and love.
She's literally a powerhouse and she brings the house down.
So I'd say keep your eyes open. We might be
(07:58):
announcing other stuff in the future. Hint, hints, check our
website Tanglewood dot org. But it's going to be a great,
great season.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Okay, So look, you get tickets to Tanglewood dot org.
It's never too early to do it, you know. Make
sure the seats don't go allway. It's it is a
jewel of every summer in New England and I just, uh,
it warms me right now just to think about this.
(08:27):
I'm ready for summer. I'm ready for spring. Alex, your
great guest, you, your enthusiasm is contagious. Thank you so
much for joining us tonight, and the best of luck
with this summer and keep us posted on and they
have the guests you have. We always like to talk
about good summer evenings. I mean, we don't have as
many as we deserve here in New England, and they're
(08:47):
all great at Tanglewood.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Thanks so much, Thank you so much for having me.
I'll see you on the lune.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I hope so, I hope, so thanks Alex. All right,
waken back. We're going to talk about an other New
England tradition. Perhaps not as well known as Tanglewood, but
the black Stone Heritage card trail. I'm gonna be talking
with Donald Williams on the other side of this break.
My name's Dan Ray. This is WBZ. You are listening
to Nightside on ten thirty AM on on your AM dial.
(09:18):
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(09:39):
good show coming up Tonight's stay with us. Back right
after this with another really interesting guest.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, last segment we talked about Tanglewood in the summer,
let's talk about the black Stone Heritage. Carter's in the spring.
They have a spring hiking series and with us as
Donna Williams, he's just board member of the Blackstone Heritage Karda.
Donald Wiideside.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Hello, Jan, I'm so glad to be here. Thanks so
much for having me.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Well, I'm glad you were here too. When I had
a little hesitation, I said, boy, I hope Donna is here.
So tell us I think everyone knows in New England
should know kind of the location of the Blackstone River.
It's down kind of in the southeast corner of the state,
maybe a little bit more towards the middle southeast corner
of the state. If you will locate us for us
(10:39):
and tell us about this great series you have these
trail Ambassadors. How long have you folks been doing.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
This, Well, we've had the Trail Ambassadors have been active
for well, they were active before COVID, and then it
kind of took a hiatus during COVID, although people were
certainly out and about a whole lot more in the
fresh air. But now since COVID they've done many, many
(11:10):
of these hikes. They've just finished up the Winter series
and now we're doing the Spring series. But your correct
is to the location of the Blackstone River. But what
this all is part of is the Blackstone River Valley
National Heritage Corridor, which is a geographic area that encompasses
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twenty five communities, towns and cities from Worcester all the
way to Providence. And this area is nationally significant and
it's known as the birthplace of the American Industrial Revolution.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Sure, so, how many different how many different trails are
there to choose from these trails that are laid out?
Or are these trails that want of your ambassadors would
know and he would take people on a hike through
the woods? Explain that to us.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Well, there are twelve hikes planned with the Leader between
March eighth and June fourteenth. They're on Saturday or Sunday
once a week through those months, and they're on existing trails.
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Some of them are in state forests, some of them
are at farms conservation areas.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
How challenging it, I'm sure people out there saying, she,
I'd like to do this, But we're talking about up
and down hillsides? Are they do you have to have
special equipment or is it something that most folks can do?
How long are we talking about I'm just trying to
make sure that people take advantage of this if they're
if they are able to, that's.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
All right, varying levels of expertise. You never need equipment
you might want to bring your hiking poles, but often
it's it's flat. But it's always on trails that are
well marked and UH people can find out, well.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
You're not really you're not talking when you when you
hear the word trails, you're not talking about you know,
going up a half a mile or whatever, you know,
and then having to come down and or over rocks
or anything there. It's it's fairly flat ground. And how
how long a couple of miles each or more?
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Well it firies. Some of them are four miles, some
are two. People can find out more about these UH
trail hikes on our website Blackstone Heritage Quarter dot org
and they can.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
All We'll give that a couple of times because that's important.
They also can do what.
Speaker 4 (14:01):
They can also RSDP on the website for these for
these trails, and they give a good description of each
of the trails and the degree of difficulty. None of
them are difficult.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
But what's the cost associated with this? Is there a ticket?
And then I assume you you give a little bit
of a gratuity to your to your guide.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
Well, no, no, this is all free and it's it's
these are the leaders are volunteers, uh Phil from Massachusetts
and Ernie in Rhode Island. They volunteer their time and
expertise because they love being out in the woods and
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exploring them with new folks and helping all of them
learn to love this area.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Any special I'm assuming that folks should at least wear
their most comfortable shoes. You don't want to be out
there on high heels, I assume. And is it smart
to have uh, you know, pants that are long pants,
and maybe even pants that are are you can tie
them up a little bit so you're not picking up
(15:17):
ticks or something like that. I don't want to intimidate anyone,
but I just want to make sure that they show
up prepared.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Well, did you raise a good point. Yes, it's a
good idea to have long pants on. Maybe tuck your
pants into your socks, but good hiking shoes, long sleeves, hat, sunglasses, sunscreen.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah. Okay, Well, I just think that you and I
might take that for granted, but someone might not. So
I assume, because they're different trails, you'll get directions as
to where you would park. I assume that there's a
meeting place for each of these these trails.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Heads correct, Yes, and that is on the website.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
It's very specific.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, bet trails and where they start.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Usually they're loops. Yep.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yeah, sure, because when you're done, that's for sure. And
people can bring can they bring some refreshments with them
if they want to, you know, bring some water or
or ginger ale or something. I assume that's.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Allowed, absolutely, and it is recommended to bring bring water,
especially to keep yourselfs hydrated.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Okay, so let's do this. And by the way, all ages,
as long as people look at the website and make
sure whether they're you know, six or ninety six, I.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Assume yes, that's correct.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Give us that website one more time so that people
can get to there as easily.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yep. Blackstone Heritage Corridor dot com. So the first one, yep, yep.
All onward and the first one.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Give us the date in the first one, I'm getting up.
I'm coming up on our newscast at the bottom of
the hour, which I got to cut away. So when
is the when's the first one start? How soon?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Saturday March eighth, that's a week from.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
It's like a couple of weeks from now. That's great. Yeah, yeah,
Rainer Shine at this rainer, shine or snowstorm. I assume.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah. Well like football games, the football game goes on
whatever the weather, so I just want to make sure
that everybody dresses appropriately. Well. Donna, thank you very much
for all of the information. I know I pushed you
a little bit here to try to get as much
information in as possible, but I want to make sure
many of our listeners take advantage of this. It sounds
like a great opportunity, and it's it's not very expensive
(17:50):
at all. It's just going to make sure perfect all right,
Thanks again, Donna. Well, we'll maybe talk about this one
more time before uh maybe sometime in April. We can
catch up with you and give you a little bit
of plug for some of the some of the other
events and activities. Okay, you good guests, Thank you so.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
Much, Thank you so much. Bite You're welcome.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Coming back right after the news at the bottom of
the ar I'm right on time. It's eight thirty. We're
going to talk with a concept called peaceful parenting. Stay
with us on Night Side.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Well, many of us during our lifetime we'll experiencing parenting
as parents all of us experiencing experienced parenting while we're children,
and with us is Kiva Schulch. She's an author and
founder of an institute for parenting. I want to pronounce
this correctly, Kiva. Is it the High Institute or Jay
(18:49):
Jay Jai Jai Institute for Parenting? And you talk about
peaceful parenting? I think I know what you mean by that,
but I'd like to hear your explanation of what is
peaceful parenting.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
It's funny. I started the Gaian Institute for Parenting in
two thousand and nine, and we've moved away from that
word a little bit because it can be misleading. Parenting
is not always peaceful. Children are certainly not always peaceful.
This idea that as parents we can work on our
own emotional intelligence, our communication strategies, and our leadership so
(19:27):
that we are providing mentorship and guidance to children rather
than reacting to behavior or reacting to external pressure is
how I would define it.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
But I understand it's a tricky word.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Yeah it is, and I know it's been around for
a while. It's called The Peaceful Parenting. Your book, I believe,
is called The Peaceful parenting revolution. We are in parentheses
or the peaceful parenting evolution, changing the world by changing
how we parent. A look at parenting styles and how
they've changed. I think all of us understand that kids
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today are brought up differently than when kids my age
in the fifties and sixties were brought up. Is it
better today in your in your opinion? And were going
in the right direction in terms of how we're rearing
children raising children?
Speaker 5 (20:18):
You know, I like to move away from ideas of
better or worse.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
It's different.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
We live in a completely different world.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
You know.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
We grew up in a time where we didn't have
social media. There wasn't so many external influences, you know,
parenting our children, our parenting children in our absence. It's
a different world. You know, when we were kids being
raised to be compliant and follow the rules with kind of.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
The path to success.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
But kids today really need to be more collaborative, to
be risk takers, to be innovators. It's just a different
time and so that requires different skill sets in our
leadership as parents.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
So what are the skill sets that parents today, uh need?
I I am now a grandparent, and my son and
his wife have a son, and they're hopefully keeping our
fingers crossed on expecting a second and our daughter and
her husband have at this point not become parents yet.
(21:19):
But what what? What? What? Again? How does? How is
it changed? I mean when when I was growing up
and I had a you know, a parent and oftentimes
your dad was like the drill sergeant and and your
mom was the was the support. You know what I'm saying.
I mean, the more traditional parents of the nineteen fifties
(21:41):
and sixties very different now response parent parental responsibilities are shared.
Life is complicated. What should people take away from our conversation?
Hopefully they're going to take away they're going to buy
and read the book. But in case they do, what
what What is the message that that that you want
to impart to them?
Speaker 5 (22:01):
I think that every family is unique, and every child
is unique, and it's important for us to consider what
the values are that matter within our family ecosystem and
how we are going to intentionally teach and model those
values to our children. I think generations of kids and parents,
you know, we always hear like the kids these days,
(22:22):
and we're certainly hearing it now.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
Kids are entitled. Kids aren't launching. There's a lot of
very real concerns around the mental health of children.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Kids aren't launching.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
What does that mean, you know, aren't going out into
the world and getting jobs. They're moving back in after college,
you know, don't seem to be moving into adulthood with
a sense of independence.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
What's a tough economy too. Kids today are being caught
in this economy, you know different. So I want to
make sure we're not blaming the kids on that one.
If it's this exactly economy that we have created for them,
and whether or not there's opportunities. Each generation, I guess
has the concerns and the problems. But in terms of
(23:09):
the relationship between parent and child, how do you strike
that balance between being loving and supportive while not being indulgent.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I think that balance is exactly the right word. So
it is wholly possible to hold our children to high standards,
to have expectations, to set limits, to have boundaries, and
do that with compassion and empathy and guidance. You know,
a lot of us were raised in ways where it
was about taking us down a nature two and a
(23:42):
lot of what we talk about at the Giant Institute
for Parenting and in my books, the peaceful parenting revolution
is scaffolding children up, building skills of communication, of how
to express emotions and feel them without letting them be
the thing that keeps you from doing hard things. I
think this generation of kids hasn't quite frankly, been exposed
(24:04):
and speaking generally to enough adversity and enough challenge, and
that's where maturity comes from. And so our work at
JAI is very parent centric because what we want to
support parents to do is to understand why they're afraid
of their kids having big feelings, or why they're afraid
that they might get hurt or fail or have disappointments.
(24:24):
That doesn't actually help in the long term.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, I've listened to psychiatrists who have said that the
best thing a parent can do is allow their child
to fail. Do you buy into that?
Speaker 5 (24:36):
Absolutely? Listen, life is hard. You know, we're all going
to have failures. You know, fail more tends to be
my way of thinking about, certainly how I've grown businesses
over the years. And if you, you know, become an
eighteen year old child who's never failed or never been disappointed.
And obviously that's a little bit hyperbolic. It can be
(24:57):
very destabilizing when and you know, my kids are in
college now and I look at the parents boards. You know,
when a kid doesn't get into the sorority they want,
or they don't get the dorm they want, It's like,
I want to celebrate that with my child instead of
try to protect them from it.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Yeah, yep, I remember. I remember my grandparents particularly well,
my paternal grandfather and both of my grandmothers. I didn't
know my my I didn't know my paternal grandfather very well,
but I knew my maternal grandfather and my maternal grandmother.
(25:35):
She had a basically saying whenever we walked in the house,
children should be seen and not heard. She was kind
of old school, just a lot of us that, yeah,
children should be seen and not heard. It was like, oh,
sit in the room and be quiet. I assume that's
no longer invokee. I hope.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:57):
I mean there's not a magical switch. And I think
that's really changed. You know, I think that by and large,
children are not treated that way, and especially here in Boston,
right like, children are very valued and we want to
engage them in conversation and include them in life and
have them have an achievement orientation, right, want them to
(26:20):
you know, debate at the dinner table and things like that.
So I think that that, you know, that's probably not
thing that a lot of us were parented with that
were magically trying to shange. Well, this is amazing, incredible things.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Obviously, my maternal grandmother has passed on. So I go
back and I think I should be seen and not heard.
I was a reporter on television here in Boston for
thirty one years, so I was seen. But now I've
been heard as a talk show host for eighteen years.
So she got the first part right, but not the
second part. I'm glad.
Speaker 5 (26:55):
I'm curious with things like that, like what age am
I allowed to be seen and heard?
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Because they're like a switch at some point.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Yeah, right, right, Well, it's an admonition that obviously I
didn't comply with. Although when we were at the home
of my maternal grandparents, we were very well behaved. I
can remember they We enjoyed going there, don't get me wrong,
And the highlight for me, one of the things that
(27:23):
I really enjoyed was and again this is not this
is grandparenting. I'm focusing on grandparenting. I guess a little
bit more than I should because we're now a grandparent.
I remember being playing checkers with my grandfather, my mom's dad,
and he would never let me win. And I was
eight or nine, and then I finally figured out how
to win in checkers. I never let him win again,
(27:49):
and think that.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
So much better than if you'd bt you win.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So how can folks get the book?
I'm sure that we have only scraped the surface, and
I have enjoyed the conversation and thank you for indulging
me to try to figure out my own upbringing. The
book is the piece I love.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Hearing your stories.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Dan.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Yeah, you can find the book on Amazon. The Peaceful
Parenting Revolution and the GAI Institute for Parenting is the
world's leading parent coach training organization and we're online at
GI Institute for Parenting dot com.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Now can people go to the GI Institute for Parenting
and actually learn from you as to some of your theories.
Obviously they can buy the book, and we want them
to buy the book, but also attend either classes or
seminars or what however you would describe them.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
Absolutely, we certify parenting coaches because the work that we
do is parent centric and you know, teaching old dogs
new tricks does take support and a judgment free container.
So that's what coaches do. But we have so many
resources there around yelling, emotional intelligence, empowered communication. So yeah,
there's lots of good stuff, whether it's becoming a certified
(29:09):
parenting coach with us or getting some of those free
resources there on the site.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Oh that's great. Kiva Schuler, the author and founder of
the Jai Institute for Parenting. The book that is The
Peaceful Parenting Revolution, available everywhere, particularly probably most easily on Amazon. Kiva.
I've really enjoyed this conversation.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Thank you very much, Diane.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Such an honor to be here with you. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
All right, we'll talk again. I hope maybe we'll do
this one more time sometime later on this year. Thanks again.
Coming up right after the break, we're going to be
talking with a Red Bull snowboarder. This is a courageous
young woman named Grace Warner. There's no way I would
even attempt to what she to do, what she's able
(29:57):
to do. We'll be back on Night's side. She's with
the Red Bull Heavy Metal twenty twenty five tour. I'll explain.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Now. Back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
All right, we're wrapping up our eight o'clock hour here,
and our fourth and final guest tonight is Grace Warner.
She's a Red Bull snowboarder. I know what a Red
Bull snowboarder is, Grace Warner, But why don't you explain
it to my audience what you do which is something
(30:33):
I would never even attempt. How were you tonight? Hi?
Speaker 6 (30:38):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
So.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Yeah, I just snowboard on handrails around the street.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Well, okay, so I assume that during the winter time
you can snowboard on snow, right right, Okay, that's how
you learned to snowboard soon, Yes, but.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
What you're going to see on Saturday is definitely a
twist on the snowboarding that you're used to seeing.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yes, yeah, you know. I want to make sure that
everybody understands we've seen snowboardings now at Olympic sport.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
Correct, correct?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Okay, WI your Olympic sport obviously, So you have taken
those skills, and your colleagues have taken those skills, and
you have applied them year round in whatever weather, and
you use handrails, and you're going to be I believe,
at Boston City Hall Plaza in the next few days.
(31:39):
Tell us about that.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Yes, So on Saturday, me and about fifty of my
very talented snowboard friends will be at the City Hall
and we're going to be showing off our skills on
the stair sets and surrounding zones of that area. And
it's going to be definitely a show that you're not
(32:04):
gonna want to miss.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, I would say you'd be displaying your skills because
they are incredible. What do you do and what do
your colleagues do? Amazes me. I would never try it
at my age, and I certainly wouldn't have tried it
at your age. How did you become a snowboard and
(32:26):
we'll talk about the event that I'm just a little
This is coming up on February twenty second, which is
two days from now, so people need to need to
rearrange their calendar for this weekend. How did you be
Can I ask? You never supposed to ask anyone of
their age these days, but I'm assuming this is a
young person sport.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
I'm twenty four, okay, Well, I started snowboarding at four
years old.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
I started snowboarding four years Did you grow up in
in New England or a a winter type part of
the country.
Speaker 6 (33:03):
I actually grew up in Detroit. We had like little,
teeny little hills with toe ropes on them, and that's
where I learned how to first carve on my snowboard,
which led to me getting into the park.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
My was my producer was talking in my ear at
one point. Where did you grow up? I'm just wondering
if you If you if you tell me you grew
up in Phoenix, Arizona, and you learned how to snowboard
without the benefits of snow, that's interesting. If you tell
me you grew up in Manitoba Winnipeg, I would understand
that better. Where where did you How'd you learn this
skill that early?
Speaker 6 (33:38):
I grew up near Detroit. Okay, Yeah, we have snow there,
but not not mountains, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I mean Detroit. Detroit is north of some parts of Canada.
Actually geographically, I'm sure you know that living in Detroit.
A lot of people perhaps don't realize that. So, so,
how have you turned this set of skills or the
set of skills that you have. How did you figure out, Hey,
I'm really good at this and I can go on tour.
(34:10):
You're a professional snowboarder, is what you are. I mean
that I assume that this is your livelihood right.
Speaker 6 (34:18):
Right, It is my entire life. I think just growing
up on a really small hill made snowboarding straight down
the mountain and carving get really boring really fast. So
I transitioned into park riding, and since we didn't have
a lot of terrain for big jumps and things like that,
(34:39):
it just led me to hitting rails and other features
in the park, and then that led me to wanting
to film in the street, similar to street skateboarding. If
you've ever seen.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
That before, Oh yeah, sure.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
So how much of the year everybody knows the football season.
Everybody knows when the baseball season is. How what what
is your season? When do you start I've talked to
rodeo people, I've talked to different you know, people who
have you know, seasonal jobs. How long does your does
(35:15):
your schedule, your annual schedule run? When do you guys
start out on the road doing this and when do
you wrap it up?
Speaker 6 (35:22):
So it kind of depends on what kind of snowboarder.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
You are.
Speaker 6 (35:26):
Most of us just chase the snow wherever, Like you
can snowboard year round around the globe anywhere, because you
can chase winter throughout the whole year. But usually I'll
start like early November to end of March.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
But there's places to snowboard over the summer for sure,
so kind of year round. I'm always always on board.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah. No, I remember learning in school that in the
Southern Hemisphere winter was our summer and vice. So I
get that. What's the what is the professional life expectancy
of snowboarders? This fascinates me. I can tell you that
baseball players generally peaking about twenty eight or twenty nine
unlist of knuckleball pitchers, and they get pitch into their forties.
(36:17):
But you know, this is a young person's sport. I'm guessing.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Yes, I'm not gonna lie to you. This question is.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Scary to me.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Okay, we'll let that one go.
Speaker 6 (36:28):
I guess. So, I guess. Really, it's just however long
your body lasts for you know, I mean, and being
a professional in any sport is difficult once you start
getting older, but there's ways to make it last forever.
I mean, can you can snowboard up until I don't know,
however long, however long your body lasts.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, there's not much snowboarding going on, I think in
senior citizen centers, but we'll leave that alone. So it's
the Red Bull Heavy Metal Tour. It's at Boston City
Hall Plaza. It's this Saturday, February two, Washington's birthday, and
you guys are going to be putting on a huge
exhibition from two in the afternoon until five thirty. It
(37:14):
should yeah. Great. Have you been to Boston before, Grace,
I have.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
I went to the Celtics game last year. It was awesome.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
Okay, have you ridden the rails at City Hall Plaza before?
So is this some terran that you're familiar with previously
or do you see it for the first time on
Saturday and say, okay, let's let's give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (37:38):
Actually, they're building features for this event, so none of
us have ever ridden on them, so it'll be new
to all of us and really exciting.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Well, it's going to be exciting for you guys. It's
certainly going to be exciting. How big is the troop
you said it's about fifty of you that are going
to be there participating, Is that.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
The number around fifty? I think yes.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
All right, well, welcome to Boston ahead of time, and
I hope you get a chance to see a little
bit of the city. It's it's a great city, there's
no doubt about that. And uh, I think you'll find
a good crowd there cheering. You're on on Saturday, and
folks can get information. They can just I guess go
to red Bull dot com, slash us hyphen Events, red
(38:21):
Bull heavy Metal Boston sounds great. Grace, Thank you so much.
Appreciate detail all the time. Okay, thanks so talk again.
Thanks Grace, you too, you too, and stay safe. Okay.
Coming up on the other side of the nine o'clock
news is going to talk about shoveling snow or not
shoveling snow and the consequences thereof in the city of Summerville.
(38:46):
I think this is gonna be an interesting topic. Hope
you stay with us. Back on nightside right after the
nine o'clock news,
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