March 13, 2025 • 39 mins
The Republican controlled U.S. House passed a continuing resolution to temporarily fund the federal government. The U.S. Senate has until Friday at midnight to pass the federal spending bill or risk a potential government shutdown that would begin Saturday. How will the Senate vote? Are we heading for a government shutdown? Dan discussed what’s at stake and breaks it down.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice eyes, Dan Ray, untelling you Mazy Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Before we get back to the callers, and I'm going
to open up another topic. I'll take a quick comment
from anyone who's on the line about Boycott's but then
we're going to talk about the potential of a government
shutdown about twenty four hours from now that is appearing
less likely, thankfully. We'll talk about that. But for those
of you in the Boston area who have expressed an interest,
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we're going to do a night side brunch on Saturday,
excuse me, on Sunday, April twenty seventh. This will be
at eleven o'clock at a great restaurant in Westwood called
Nioli an e Roli. It's an Italian restaurant on Route
one A in Westwood, two eighty two Washington Street. There's
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a great parking, easy accessible, free parking behind the restaurant,
free on street parking, no meters or to worry about.
Even though it is a Sunday, I have to make
a reservation and say you want to sit in my
section at the restaurant, Dan Ray, The Winnaker Band will
be there, which is just fabulous news. They are a
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great band. Uh and I'm looking forward to seeing Bill
Winnoker and Bo Winnaker and they have they have an
incredible female singer. They have a pianist who works with
them as well. And this is at eleven o'clock on Sunday,
April twenty seventh. Now, if you I'm going to tell
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you right now, this is no joke. It is very
close to a sellout. We only open this up a
couple of days ago and it is close to a sellout.
So if you call, you need to call. If not
now tonight, the first thing in the morning. And again
I'm not joking with you. They don't know what has happened,
but we it's it's almost a sellout. Seven eight one
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three seven five two four. That's seven eight one three,
seven five two five nine four. I've been asked by
listeners for a couple of years, is there an event
we could have where nightside listeners could go and enjoy
themselves and meet other nightside listeners. Marita, the producer of
the program, will be there. I will be there. I
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hope you'll be there. They have a great menu. Bill
Winaker tells me this the food is fabulous, and I
believe it is. They have a brunch menu. They also
have a breakfast menu and a lunch menu, so you
can order brunch or you can just order something simple
for breakfast or order something simple for lunch. If this
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sells out, and I believe it's going to sell out
in the next day, okay, So that's why you need
to make reservations. Does it cost you anything to make reservations?
Please don't make them if you don't intend to come,
but they very well may double up on it. We
may have one lunch at eleven, one brunch at eleven,
and one brunch at twelve thirty. So we're trying to
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figure out and accommodate how many people want to go.
So if you have any questions, you can call me,
call Rob. We have all the information. The number is
seven eight one three seven five two five nine four
Niroli's Restaurant in Westwood on Route one eight. Parking behind
the restaurant and on the street. It's supposedly a great
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It is a great restaurant from everything that I have heard,
And when you make a reservation, make sure because there
will be other people in the restaurant other than us.
We've only been given a certain amount of space. So
we will will fill that space once. We might fill
it twice. But if you want to be there at eleven,
you got to call. I would say no later than
tomorrow seven eight, one, three, seven, five, two, five, nine four.
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And I'm not trying to force you to call. I
want I want you to be there, but I only
want you to be there if you if you want
to be there. And again, all you doing is just
paying for breakfast, whatever you have, breakfast, brunch or whatever.
There's no admission. The entertainment is included. It's going to
be great. Okay. Now, before we get back to a
call or two, if they want to talk about Boycott's,
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that's fine. I want to talk about the potential government shutdown.
This is a story you're going to see evolve in
the next day or so. Some of you probably know
a lot about it. Right now. The government has to
raise the debt ceiling. Because we have thirty seven trillion
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dollars in federal debt. It gets pretty complicated. What they
do is they pass a limited continuing resolution. The Republicans
in the House have passed it by the thinnest of March,
and there was one Democrat who voted for it and
one Republican who voted against it, and I think the
vote was two seventeen to two eighteen. It was razor thin,
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just the long party lines. Now it goes to the Senate.
The President will sign it if it gets out of
the Senate. The Senate has this filibuster where you need
sixty votes. Even though the Republicans have fifty three and
the Democrats only have forty seven, the Republicans need seven
Democratic votes to break the filibuster. If the filibuster continues,
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then the government basically shuts down tomorrow night at midnight.
That's what's going on. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Late today, late today, it is being reported that Democrats
the majority, the minority leader, Chuck Schumer of New York,
has told NPR that shutting down the government would give
musk Endozed carte blanche to do what he wants. However,
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but Schumer has said that at this point he is
prepared to break the filibuster and to make sure that
the government continues. Earlier today, a Democratic Senator from Texas,
John Cordon, said they'll cave who accused Democrats and hypocrisy
for criticizing Musks federal layoffs while potentially forcing government workers
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out of a job with the shutdown. Now, in the past,
the Democrats have always maneuvered the governor. The Republicans, i
should say, to be in the position where they would
be blamed for the shutdown. Well, Schumer is now saying
that while the continuing Resolution bill and continuing the government
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funding through September thirtieth is very bad, Schumer is now
saying the potential for a shutdown has consequences for America
that are much much worse. So Schumer has decided now
he needs to get enough Democrats to get to seventy.
So how concerned are you about a government shutdown? It's
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still I mean, until the votes are cast, it's still possible.
So I'd like to talk about that. And is that
something that you understand. Apparently there would be only some
aspects of the government that would be shut down, not everything.
I mean, the Army would still be there, the military,
but there would be offices closed. This is separate apart
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from what Elon Musk is doing. And if there's a
government shutdown, that's going to royal the stock market even
more if there is not, that might allow the stock
market to come back a little bit. So there's a
lot going on. Six seven two, five, four ten thirty,
six one seven, nine three one, ten thirty. I would
like to talk about your concerns about this. Obviously, things
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are in a state of a lot of confusion as
to what's going on in Washington. Let's try to sort
it out. Join the conversation. Are you worried we have
the stock market as a background to a potential government
shut down. The House has passed the continuing Resolution, so
the work is done there. The House has gone home.
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They have left it in the Senate to deal with.
The Senate only has fifty three Republicans. To break a filibuster,
they need seven Democratic votes. I'm beginning to think they
will get them because of what Schumer said late today.
Back on Nightside, I got some lines at six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty, and I got some lines at six one, seven,
nine three, ten thirty. We'll be back more phone calls
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right after this on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
All right, let's go to the phones. We have our friend,
one of our David's in San Francisco. Never show which
David we're gonna get. David, you are next on Nightside.
Go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Well, this has got to be the smart one. I
guess you're familiar with Elon Musk trying to cut off
the telephone service for the Social Security.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I know that they're looking to do some things. Again,
I'm not sure if it's Elon Musk specifically, but what
they're trying to do I believe. Well, why did you
explain it? And then I'll try to comment on it?
Go ahead, Dave, Go ahead, David. I'll give you a chance.
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Well, to give the listeners a little background, it's been
almost one hundred and fifty years since the telephone was invented. Watson,
come here quickly. I need you.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
That was.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Eighteen seventy six. You Dan used the telephone as a
major part of your show. The telephone is hugely it
is very efficient. Now Doge, the last letter E in
Doge is efficiency.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
That's great.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I would why would Doge call telephones to the Social
Security Administration inefficient?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
At this point, David, believe it or not, I absolutely,
I'm going to surprise you and tell you I agree
with you. Here's the in my opinion, the problem and
where we might have a disagreement. Uh, I am very frustrated,
and I suspect you probably share my frustration because I
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oftentimes are calling some company, whether it's a newspaper, because
my newspaper wasn't delivered last Monday. You've had those experiences,
and most often you get someone overseas who is not
fluent fluent in English. Okay, so that's what's called offshoring.
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You're familiar with.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
That, right, Okay, good's the problem? Man?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna respond, We're gonna have David,
We're gonna have a conversation, or one of us is
gonna end up in the water. And I'm betting it's
on you. Just listen to what I'm trying to say,
because you're going to find me in more agreement with
you than you realize. So I am appalled at the
number of companies that do not allow us to talk
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to a human being. If I want to call the
Boston Globe to tell them that my newspaper has not
been delivered, I end up talking to someone in Tucson, Arizona,
And the Globe at least has people in this country
who I talk to. If I want to talk to
an insurance company, I'm often dealing with someone in the Philippines.
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I'm dealing with people in the Dominican Republic who are
wonderful people, David, But that defeats the purpose. Now, I
think what I'm not going to defend Musk on this
because I think it is a mistake. They are of
the conclude of the belief that everybody is computer literate.
Your computer literate. I'm computer literate, but on some things,
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I want to be able to talk to a human being.
And I I think if they eliminate any telephone access,
they are making a huge mistake. They If they cut
down and make it a little more difficult for people
to get to a person and encourage people who are
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computer literate to accomplish some simple tasks through a website,
there might be some efficiency in that. But on a whole,
on the issue as a whole, I'm in agreement with you.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, Now, the one thing that I needed to correct
you on is the Social Security does not out offshore
our social security numbers to some foreign country. I didn't
say they did.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I didn't say that just for clarification. I said that
some of the companies that I have dealt with. I
deal with an insurance company, which I no longer deal
with because I can't deal with them. I dealt yesterday
with an electrical company that provides my electrical supply here
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in Massachusetts. I changed my company yesterday from one to another.
And yeah, no, Social Security does not. You're correct on that,
but go ahead. I stopped. I wanted to. I think
you were stunned that you and I are in some
centual agreement here. There would be a mistake to eliminate
phone access for people who do not have computers or
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people who are not comfortable on computers. I can accomplish
much more on a phone conversation with someone than I
can by trying to email them back and forth. Go
right ahead, David, Well.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
The bigger picture is there are plenty of people out
in the middle of the out in the prairies, let's say,
who don't have great Internet service, they weren't trained on computers,
they don't trust computers. And now that Elon has got
our social Security numbers been in the Friday night five
weeks ago is when Elon Musk sneaked into the Treasury
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and he's had our data forever or for.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You're changing the conversation on me at this point.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I'm trying to if somebody wanted to get in touch
with Social Security, do they want to fool with a
computer or do they want to deal with somebody a
human over a telephone.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
A lot of people want.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
To trap us Elon Musk wants to talk us into
one computer.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That I'm having what I'm trying to say to you,
and I was trying to agree with you that there
are a lot of people at this point who might
be I don't know how old you are, but who
might be younger than you and me, who prefer to
deal on the computer, and some people don't like to
deal on the telephone. But there are a lot of
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people who would prefer the telephone. And I think both
options should be available. That's the point that I'm agreeing
with you on. I don't I think it should be
completely telephone or completely computers. I prefer to see a
telephone option for people who are more comfortable on telephones
and a computer option for people on anything. But I
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don't want someone waiting for five hours to get through
on the telephone. I want to make sure that there
are enough people live people who can handle the level
of phone calls, because over time, I think you would agree, David,
that more and more people are going to default to
computers and away from telephones, which I think is that's
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not me.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I don't probably not you.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I don't agree with you because I think that once
Elon Musk got our Social Security numbers, they don't Most
people don't want to use the computer to interact with
the Social Security because they don't trust Elon Musk and
the idea that we're being trapped into using computers that
he now has control of. I find that horrible, and
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I consider Elon Musk a trader, and for Donald Trump
to keep a trader on the books.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Let's let's let's impiach him. How did that work out
the first few times, David.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Well, he got through the it got through the House.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But the coward leader he got reelected because of people
like you, David. David, Donald Trump. You are the greatest
gift to Donald Trump that he has people listening to
you tonight. They're saying I'm gonna vote for Trump again
because they think your nuts, David. That's what they think.
What do you think, Elon Musk? This whole is walking
around with your with your social Security number. I protect
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my social Security number. I gotta have some faith that
the government is going to protect my social Security number.
Do you think Musk is saying to Trump, let's get
David in San Francisco's SO Security number. You know, they say,
if they're really after you, you're not paranoid, David. I got
news for you. They're not really after you. I think your.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Parent, dude.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
They've already admitted that Elon Musk has got our social
security numbers.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm sure he's got your SO
Security number, David, and I'm sure that he's now investigating you,
that he's going deeply into your background. That's the only
reason that Musk, in my opinion, has gotten into this situation.
You know as well as I do, that the Tesla
stock has plummeted in the last couple of weeks. It's
gone from like four hundred to two sixty. But Elon
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Musk is prepared to lose billions of dollars as long
as he can get David in San Francisco's Social Security number.
I have no idea what he's going to do with it,
but David. If I were you, I would worry. I
would worry.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Well, if you want to call me a fool, I
would say.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
That I.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Called you totally paranoid. Paranoid David would are you wearing
your swim trunks? Rob David? I tried, I really tried. Tonight,
we'll be back right after the newsnight.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
We will probably talk about the Karen Read trial tomorrow
and night. I just heard Dan Watkins report and I'm
looking here very quickly at it. It just cleared the
wires here about forty minutes ago. The Boston Global article
has lost her bid. Trying to see which judge it
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was that threw this out, I I haven't been able
to read this US A veteran US District Court Judge F.
Dennis Salor the fourth disagreed on both points. This quote
sees no basic to clude the judge's decision to clear
mistrial was incorrect her improper. I disagree with that decision.
I disagree with the decisions of the State Supreme Court. Uh,
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and we'll talk about that tomorrow night. But again, there
are plenty of legal decisions that I disagree with in
this country. He says, further Sailor Road, it would be
an intrusion for federal court to direct the state court
to conduct avoider of former jurors and would implicate substantial
concerns of federalism and comedy. That's a stretch, judge. Okay,
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back to the call as we go. Uh, we got
a lot going on tonight, Patrick in DC. Hey, Patrick,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I just couldn't resist, you know, since you were talking
about my hometown once again and a government shutdown. And yes,
I am concerned about it. And I'll tell you why
I'm concerned about it, because it adds to the misery index.
Remember the misery index.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yes, oh, yes, that was what Ronald Reagan. That's what
Ronald Reagan talked about life under Jimmy Carter. High inflation.
Uh oh yeah, the misery index. Absolutely, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
This shows me is that the Senate thing that they
like to be the Senate and they like to use
their Senate speak, and they have their they could have
their eyes on that Sunday talk shows, you know with
the breasted chatterboxers. And if they go ahead and allow
it to shut down. Now it's just going into the
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weekend midnight or Friday, you know, so they can, you know,
get on their Sunday talk shows with the shutdown, when
when they know they're going to open it back up
come Monday or Tuesday. That's what concerns me that they're not.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I don't worry about it. No, I'll tell you wouldn't
worry about Here's why. Let me let me put your
mind at ease. Believe it, believe it or not. This
is the first time in many years that I can
remember that there has been no congressional recess this late
in the year, meaning they were sworn in in early January.
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They were there through the inauguration, they have been there
through all the hair rings dealing with the cabinet selections.
And the House went home yesterday, as I understand it,
for the first time, uh since since early early January.
The Senate now is left in Washington alone. The senators,
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they they will they all the all the bookers on
the Sunday morning talk shows, the Sunday talk shows will
have their pick of the litter because because there were
no House members in town, they've all skidaddled. Okay, so
all these Senate guys and gals can stick around. They
can be on any show they want, Okay on Sunday,
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and I think that Schumer's comments tonight to NPR that
he's going to vote UH to uh to end the filibuster.
He's going to join the fifty three Republicans. Fetterman is
already that will get the the requisite number of votes
so that the philibuster will be broken, and that the
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Senate will vote tomorrow to approve the continuing Resolution that
the House has already passed, and they'll have it on
the President's desk tomorrow night. This is actually a win
for Donald Trump because he was going to say if
the government shut down, it's the Senate's fault and they
did not want to take the heat.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Well, I guess that my vision is at ease, but
it's kind of partially right because they're going to be
sticking around and write the Sunday talk shows will have
the pick of the letter. Because I'll tell.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You this, if I'm wrong, I expect you to call
me Monday and say, Dan, you misled me. I want
you to put your head on your pillow tonight in
Washington or near Washington, wherever your pillow is, and I
want you to sleep soundly tonight. And I hope I
hope that I hope that our friend David in San Francisco.
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We go coast to coast, we're by coastal here. I
hope that my friend is out of the water and
toweling off somewhere in San Francisco right now, because that
was a cool thing for me to do, to put
him into the water. I was actually trying to agree
with him, and he wouldn't even allow me to agree
with him.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Hey, give me fifty thousand watts in nine minutes, you know, Hey,
I could sell a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I understand that. I will tell you this though. We
now found out tonight through David that the whole reason
Elon Musk is doing this is so he can get
David so security number. I never.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
They call it, they call it doge right d og.
And you know how the.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Department of you have to have an acronym to Department
of Governmental Efficiency. And by the way, the points David
made tonight I agreed with, and it befuddled him that
we could agree on something.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
You're not going to win with San Francisco, my friend.
You're not going to win with San Francisco. I always says, Doge,
excuse me, this might go but there is the there
is the element that though the sentamon the cinnamon hygiene procedure,
and I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You got to kill that one. Thank you, Patrick, God
bless you say three hour fathers and two Hail Mary's
and we'll talk again. Okay, thanks, thank you, have a
great night. Where we're gonna go next. I got Mac
in Florida. Matt, how are you tonight?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Well, I'm doing great, doing great. Dan, flight's good, life's
good for the working gack. You know, people have a
job and pavia attaxes. It's great. It's a great time.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
By the way, I don't I'm not going to beat
up on David here, but did you understand that I
was actually trying to agree with David tonight for the
first time.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I can. I mean, yeah, you were trying to help
them out, but I mean cans billions of dollars. He
doesn't care. He doesn't need anyone's money. Like, he's not
worried about your money, my money. He's genuinely trying to
stop waste. Like I don't know why, man, that's so
complicated for people like, I know, I haven't a lot
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of liberal friends back in Massachusetts, and like they're angry
at this guy for like saving money. It makes no sense.
It's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, it makes a lot of sense. No, it makes
a lot of sense, Matt in this in my belief
because a lot of these folks have kind of ridden
the gravy train for years. I mean the amount of money.
We're thirty seven trillion in the hole. I mean if
you own thirty cent, if you owed thirty seven trillion
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to the bookies, you'd be sleeping with the fishes, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Oh my god. And it's it's so funny because my
for for years, my friend would all he went for tough. Okay,
for a year, he would make fun of me for
working for corporations. He'd be like, oh, they can fire
you anytime you want. The second Trump gets elected, he's
freaking out. He's telling me, oh, he's gonna cut all
the jobs at universities and research departments and blah blah blah.
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And I go, oh, well, it's good now you feel
some of that threat. You know, there's a lot of
people who work I mean working for universities different than
working for the government, but not really, you know, I
mean it is, but it isn't. And it's like, yeah,
it's not. There's no such thing as as as a
guarantee in life. And it's like these people finally realize,
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I mean, your time is up. Sorry, but that's how
it works.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, and again life has been good at universities, and
the universities kind of messed up in the sense that
and even today there's a if I can find this
from from maybe I can't, uh look for there was
a statement from about three hundred members of the Harvard
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faculty and and they're all upset about this guy being deported, uh,
the guy that raised a lot of problems at Columbia
who's not a US citizen. And they are jumping into
the you know, into the line of fire defending this guy.
And I'm thinking to myself, they've learned nothing. These very
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smart faculty people at Harvard. You know, there's there's this
level of anti Semitism which.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Just won't go away, won't go away, and they're going
to try to elevate this guy to become I don't know,
the next the next Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
In our country or something like that.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
It's the amount of money they have. People don't even realize.
It's like like they I mean, look at Harvard for example,
they own half a cambridge. They don't they don't pay taxes.
They have so many endowment they have billions and billions
and endowment and it's like, how about you use some
of that money, you know, divest some of it a
little in like like the money's there, and Uh, it's
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just I mean, it's just nuts. People get just get
so angry. It's like and the best part, I don't
know if you realize Trump says they were saying tonight,
if he cuts enough, he's his goal with this is
to try to cut taxes for anyone who makes less
than one hundred and fifty thousand. How have you followed
up on this?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, he's also he's also said no taxes on tips,
no taxes on social security. Uh, if he's able to
save some money.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I can who's against and who's against getting rid of waste?
It's outrageous, Like why would you be against that?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well, if you are on the gravy train, and by
getting rid of waste, the gravy train was going to stop.
I mean, there's I've read reports and I haven't been
able to nail the reports down that there was a
charity that Stay Abrams in Georgia was running which received
two billion dollars from the Biden administration. That's a lot
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of money. I mean, you know, maybe somebody don't think
that's not a lot of money. I want to know
at first if it's true. There's so much stuff being
thrown at us, it's difficult to figure out what is true.
When Trump was talking the other night at the State
of the Union or not the State of the Unity,
the joint addressed to Congress, and he was talking about
how all of these old people are on Social Security
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lists and all of that. You know, don't try to
spin me that that means five thousand people over the
age of one hundred and forty is still getting Social
Security checks. I don't think that's the truth. I think
that there was some sort of a coding error which
showed the inefficiency at at Social Security and that needs
to be tightened up. But so the Trump people should not.
(29:52):
I've done stories. I've done shows that the Trump people
are sometimes out over the keys, but sometimes they're right
and they're reaching people like you, who are who never
would have supported Donald Trump when I first got to
know you. You're a Bernie Sanders guy, you know that.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
But yeah, I mean, I mean, he's not a bought
and soul politician. And again, David, Elon Musk is a
concern about you. He's got billions at all. He doesn't
need your money.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So I think David's concerned that Elon's gonna, you know,
walk in the door somebody or something and send him
to every education camp. That's that's what I think David's
thinking out there. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I'm looking forward to your show tomorrow about Karen Reid.
You should do all four or four hours about Karen Reid.
I can't wait to listen. Thanks Jim.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, we'll do some of it tomorrow, that's for sure. Again,
she's going to go back to trial. And I think
that this is I think it is outrageous. I think,
and again I'm not, I have no idea what happened.
I don't know. I mean, I have not.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
We all know what happened. But that's okay, Well I don't,
I don't. I'm not dying. You gotta say that. You
got to say that.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
But no, go to say that I'm going to tell
you the truth. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Because everyone knows what happened fair enough.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well I'm then I guess you've become a sky in
the world.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
No, you're not. You're very smart. You'll know, you'll know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
One la, good night. Take a quick break here. I
got a couple of lines at six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty and I got one at six one, seven,
nine thirty. Fill him up. Let's finish strong. Coming back
on night Side.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
By the way, this is the Harvard faculty group, the
Harvard Faculty and Staff for Justice in Palestine. It's a
diverse and inclusive organization of over three hundred Harvard faculty
and staff committed to Palestinian liberation. One of Hell that
means a local chapter of thetional Faculty and Staff of
Justice in Palestine. The arrest of Mahoun mah Mood Khalil
(32:05):
for his peaceful advocacy against genocide and the cancelation of
federal research funding GET Columbia and other universities across the
country constitutes significant blows to academic freedom and American civil liberties. Uh,
this guy didn't have a lot more than peaceful advocacy.
Let's go to Dot in Medford. Dot has more brains
(32:28):
than than some of these faculty members at Harvard. Hey, Dot,
how are you?
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Hey? All I want to know is are you gonna
let us know if David washes up on Alpatrez tonight?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
We have people in San Francisco trying to make sure
that he gets out of the water safely and gets
it gets gets into a location that Elon muskant get
to him.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Oh what a what a piece of work he is?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
He was just trying to I was simply trying to
agree with you. Were I frustrated him tonight on that
I don't think when you you know, DoD, Let me
just say this, I don't know how good you are
at a computer. But if you have a question about security, right,
I don't think so, and I respect that. I want
to have the option of if it's a complicated story,
(33:18):
to speak to a human person at so security, and
I want you to have that as well. He wouldn't
He not wanted me? Yeah, he wanted to be convinced
that whatever.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Unbelievable. I couldn't believe what I was listening to.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
One of my favorite callers I.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Called about Tuma. But first I want to say how
astatic I am at the finding on the Read trial today.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Okay, I'm going to disagree with you on that one.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
I know you are, I know you are, but I'm
a static But I can't believe Shuma. I can't believe Schumer.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Well, I think Schuman is doing the right thing. I
think that Schuma has been positioned where if the Democrats
don't allow a vote in the Senate, President Trump is
going to say the Democrats were blocked the vote in
the Senate, and that's forced to shut the government down. Right,
So Schumer is doing the right thing politically.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
I think the right thing for Trump, but not for himself.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well, well, the alternative is, when you think about it,
is if he stands and says, we will not give
you the seven votes that you need to get a vote,
and we're gonna We're gonna continue the filibuster. The government
shut down, shuts down. President Trump can point at Schumann
and say that's the guy that shut the government down.
Normally it's the reverse. The Democrats appointing you. The Republicans
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say those are the guys that shut the government down,
and the Republicans will run that play a couple of times,
not to their benefit.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I know.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Well, it's gonna be very interesting to see what happens
with the vote Tomorrow's.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Well, if Schumer says that he's going to vote along
with Fetterman, uh, I think there'll be enough Democratic senators
who are going to follow Schumer. But we'll see. Call
me tomorrow, you know. Okay, all right, all right, thanks doc,
good night, have a great night. Let me go to
let me go next to I lean in a cambridge,
(35:20):
I lean you next do nights. I welcome.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
Hi, Hi, Hi, I'm fine. I'm but on the possibility
of government shutdown, I am I have to applaud uh
Trump for going right to walk trying to clean up.
(35:48):
Uh what's a lot of uh crazy stuff that's been
going on, like social Security payments to people who've been
dead for over one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Or yeah, well he's implied that, but they haven't shown
me any evidence of that. And I think that that
it's I think it's what they call a coding era.
I'm convinced of that that people's names were not cleaned
off the Social Security roles. My understanding, and I've had
it confirmed a couple of ways that when someone passes away,
(36:27):
I believe that there's an obligation on the funeral home
to notify Social Security that that individual is no longer
with us. So I don't think when the President in
that speech to Congress was talking about, you know, thirty
thousand people being listed on SO Security rolls over the
one hundred the age of one hundred and twenty or whatever,
(36:47):
he might be right. They might be on the rolls,
but I think that they that they lost their birth
dates or something and they put them all in having
been born in eighteen seventy five or something. I think
that we will find out that is this some fraud
and Social Security? Yes, but nothing like the President has implied.
Speaker 8 (37:06):
Okay, well, I think what he's trying to do is
to save us money.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
He's obviously.
Speaker 8 (37:14):
There are people who are getting paid and aren't doing
any work.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's what you and I think that's I think that's true.
They're trying to find out if people are they are
they performing a service for the government. Let's find out.
Let's give them a chance, know a lot of people
have talked about it. No one has done anything about it.
At least he's trying to do something about it.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
Well, I get it, Yeah, I got Okay, I hate
to do this.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I got one more call. Thank you so much for calling.
I want to give one person just a minute.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
Here, okay, Okay, we'll up.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
We can talk tomorrow night during the eleven everybody gets
a haul passed tomorrow night at eleven. Okay, thanks, all.
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Right, I'll try.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, I might do an open line tomorrow night. Thanks that.
We talk to you later. Okay. We have seen you
in the twenties. Thanks Steven Rocked and Steve, I got
about a minute for you. You go right ahead. You
called late, but I'll get you and go ahead, Steve.
Speaker 9 (38:08):
Hey, Dan, I really appreciate it. Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yes, I can hear your fine, I get about a minute.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Go ahead, yep.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
I really appreciate it. Long time listener, first time Kaula.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
And all right, I.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
Appreciate what you're doing because you always tell us truth.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Shoot from the hip.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
I love it, Dan, keep it up, and I think
I think we're going in the right direction. Everyone has
to have patients and uh, some of the stuff that's
coming out is mind blowing. We all have to pay atention.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
No, it is, and I gotta tell you, I tell
the truth. Is I see it. I'm not saying I'm
one hundred percent wrong. I mean I am not. Look
I make mistakes, but I'll give you my best, honest answer.
That's all I'm trying to do. And all I want
to know is we thank you, Thank you, thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I appreciate right back at you, Steve. Call again. I
look forward to your second call. Thanks for the first
time call. I really do appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
Say good Dan, good.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Night, have a great one. Good night. All right, We're
done for the night. Rob, great job, busy night, Marita,
great job. We got through it. We will talk about
Karen Reie tomorrow night. I'll tell you my honest feeling
on Its simple as that, and I will be on
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Before we get back to the callers, and I'm going
to open up another topic. I'll take a quick comment
from anyone who's on the line about Boycott's but then
we're going to talk about the potential of a government
shutdown about twenty four hours from now that is appearing
less likely, thankfully. We'll talk about that. But for those
of you in the Boston area who have expressed an interest,
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Even though it is a Sunday, I have to make
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them as well. And this is at eleven o'clock on Sunday,
April twenty seventh. Now, if you I'm going to tell
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you right now, this is no joke. It is very
close to a sellout. We only open this up a
couple of days ago and it is close to a sellout.
So if you call, you need to call. If not
now tonight, the first thing in the morning. And again
I'm not joking with you. They don't know what has happened,
but we it's it's almost a sellout. Seven eight one
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believe it is. They have a brunch menu. They also
have a breakfast menu and a lunch menu, so you
can order brunch or you can just order something simple
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in the next day, okay, So that's why you need
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Please don't make them if you don't intend to come,
but they very well may double up on it. We
may have one lunch at eleven, one brunch at eleven,
and one brunch at twelve thirty. So we're trying to
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figure out and accommodate how many people want to go.
So if you have any questions, you can call me,
call Rob. We have all the information. The number is
seven eight one three seven five two five nine four
Niroli's Restaurant in Westwood on Route one eight. Parking behind
the restaurant and on the street. It's supposedly a great
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It is a great restaurant from everything that I have heard,
And when you make a reservation, make sure because there
will be other people in the restaurant other than us.
We've only been given a certain amount of space. So
we will will fill that space once. We might fill
it twice. But if you want to be there at eleven,
you got to call. I would say no later than
tomorrow seven eight, one, three, seven, five, two, five, nine four.
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And I'm not trying to force you to call. I
want I want you to be there, but I only
want you to be there if you if you want
to be there. And again, all you doing is just
paying for breakfast, whatever you have, breakfast, brunch or whatever.
There's no admission. The entertainment is included. It's going to
be great. Okay. Now, before we get back to a
call or two, if they want to talk about Boycott's,
(04:13):
that's fine. I want to talk about the potential government shutdown.
This is a story you're going to see evolve in
the next day or so. Some of you probably know
a lot about it. Right now. The government has to
raise the debt ceiling. Because we have thirty seven trillion
(04:33):
dollars in federal debt. It gets pretty complicated. What they
do is they pass a limited continuing resolution. The Republicans
in the House have passed it by the thinnest of March,
and there was one Democrat who voted for it and
one Republican who voted against it, and I think the
vote was two seventeen to two eighteen. It was razor thin,
(04:53):
just the long party lines. Now it goes to the Senate.
The President will sign it if it gets out of
the Senate. The Senate has this filibuster where you need
sixty votes. Even though the Republicans have fifty three and
the Democrats only have forty seven, the Republicans need seven
Democratic votes to break the filibuster. If the filibuster continues,
(05:18):
then the government basically shuts down tomorrow night at midnight.
That's what's going on. It's as simple as that.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Late today, late today, it is being reported that Democrats
the majority, the minority leader, Chuck Schumer of New York,
has told NPR that shutting down the government would give
musk Endozed carte blanche to do what he wants. However,
(05:47):
but Schumer has said that at this point he is
prepared to break the filibuster and to make sure that
the government continues. Earlier today, a Democratic Senator from Texas,
John Cordon, said they'll cave who accused Democrats and hypocrisy
for criticizing Musks federal layoffs while potentially forcing government workers
(06:11):
out of a job with the shutdown. Now, in the past,
the Democrats have always maneuvered the governor. The Republicans, i
should say, to be in the position where they would
be blamed for the shutdown. Well, Schumer is now saying
that while the continuing Resolution bill and continuing the government
(06:33):
funding through September thirtieth is very bad, Schumer is now
saying the potential for a shutdown has consequences for America
that are much much worse. So Schumer has decided now
he needs to get enough Democrats to get to seventy.
So how concerned are you about a government shutdown? It's
(06:55):
still I mean, until the votes are cast, it's still possible.
So I'd like to talk about that. And is that
something that you understand. Apparently there would be only some
aspects of the government that would be shut down, not everything.
I mean, the Army would still be there, the military,
but there would be offices closed. This is separate apart
(07:18):
from what Elon Musk is doing. And if there's a
government shutdown, that's going to royal the stock market even
more if there is not, that might allow the stock
market to come back a little bit. So there's a
lot going on. Six seven two, five, four ten thirty,
six one seven, nine three one, ten thirty. I would
like to talk about your concerns about this. Obviously, things
(07:42):
are in a state of a lot of confusion as
to what's going on in Washington. Let's try to sort
it out. Join the conversation. Are you worried we have
the stock market as a background to a potential government
shut down. The House has passed the continuing Resolution, so
the work is done there. The House has gone home.
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They have left it in the Senate to deal with.
The Senate only has fifty three Republicans. To break a filibuster,
they need seven Democratic votes. I'm beginning to think they
will get them because of what Schumer said late today.
Back on Nightside, I got some lines at six one, seven, two, five,
four ten thirty, and I got some lines at six one, seven,
nine three, ten thirty. We'll be back more phone calls
(08:27):
right after this on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
All right, let's go to the phones. We have our friend,
one of our David's in San Francisco. Never show which
David we're gonna get. David, you are next on Nightside.
Go right ahead.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Well, this has got to be the smart one. I
guess you're familiar with Elon Musk trying to cut off
the telephone service for the Social Security.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I know that they're looking to do some things. Again,
I'm not sure if it's Elon Musk specifically, but what
they're trying to do I believe. Well, why did you
explain it? And then I'll try to comment on it?
Go ahead, Dave, Go ahead, David. I'll give you a chance.
Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
Well, to give the listeners a little background, it's been
almost one hundred and fifty years since the telephone was invented. Watson,
come here quickly. I need you.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
That was.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Eighteen seventy six. You Dan used the telephone as a
major part of your show. The telephone is hugely it
is very efficient. Now Doge, the last letter E in
Doge is efficiency.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
That's great.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I would why would Doge call telephones to the Social
Security Administration inefficient?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
At this point, David, believe it or not, I absolutely,
I'm going to surprise you and tell you I agree
with you. Here's the in my opinion, the problem and
where we might have a disagreement. Uh, I am very frustrated,
and I suspect you probably share my frustration because I
(10:20):
oftentimes are calling some company, whether it's a newspaper, because
my newspaper wasn't delivered last Monday. You've had those experiences,
and most often you get someone overseas who is not
fluent fluent in English. Okay, so that's what's called offshoring.
(10:40):
You're familiar with.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
That, right, Okay, good's the problem? Man?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna respond, We're gonna have David,
We're gonna have a conversation, or one of us is
gonna end up in the water. And I'm betting it's
on you. Just listen to what I'm trying to say,
because you're going to find me in more agreement with
you than you realize. So I am appalled at the
number of companies that do not allow us to talk
(11:09):
to a human being. If I want to call the
Boston Globe to tell them that my newspaper has not
been delivered, I end up talking to someone in Tucson, Arizona,
And the Globe at least has people in this country
who I talk to. If I want to talk to
an insurance company, I'm often dealing with someone in the Philippines.
(11:33):
I'm dealing with people in the Dominican Republic who are
wonderful people, David, But that defeats the purpose. Now, I
think what I'm not going to defend Musk on this
because I think it is a mistake. They are of
the conclude of the belief that everybody is computer literate.
Your computer literate. I'm computer literate, but on some things,
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I want to be able to talk to a human being.
And I I think if they eliminate any telephone access,
they are making a huge mistake. They If they cut
down and make it a little more difficult for people
to get to a person and encourage people who are
(12:19):
computer literate to accomplish some simple tasks through a website,
there might be some efficiency in that. But on a whole,
on the issue as a whole, I'm in agreement with you.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, Now, the one thing that I needed to correct
you on is the Social Security does not out offshore
our social security numbers to some foreign country. I didn't
say they did.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
I didn't say that just for clarification. I said that
some of the companies that I have dealt with. I
deal with an insurance company, which I no longer deal
with because I can't deal with them. I dealt yesterday
with an electrical company that provides my electrical supply here
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in Massachusetts. I changed my company yesterday from one to another.
And yeah, no, Social Security does not. You're correct on that,
but go ahead. I stopped. I wanted to. I think
you were stunned that you and I are in some
centual agreement here. There would be a mistake to eliminate
phone access for people who do not have computers or
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people who are not comfortable on computers. I can accomplish
much more on a phone conversation with someone than I
can by trying to email them back and forth. Go
right ahead, David, Well.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
The bigger picture is there are plenty of people out
in the middle of the out in the prairies, let's say,
who don't have great Internet service, they weren't trained on computers,
they don't trust computers. And now that Elon has got
our social Security numbers been in the Friday night five
weeks ago is when Elon Musk sneaked into the Treasury
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and he's had our data forever or for.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
You're changing the conversation on me at this point.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I'm trying to if somebody wanted to get in touch
with Social Security, do they want to fool with a
computer or do they want to deal with somebody a
human over a telephone.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
A lot of people want.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
To trap us Elon Musk wants to talk us into
one computer.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
That I'm having what I'm trying to say to you,
and I was trying to agree with you that there
are a lot of people at this point who might
be I don't know how old you are, but who
might be younger than you and me, who prefer to
deal on the computer, and some people don't like to
deal on the telephone. But there are a lot of
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people who would prefer the telephone. And I think both
options should be available. That's the point that I'm agreeing
with you on. I don't I think it should be
completely telephone or completely computers. I prefer to see a
telephone option for people who are more comfortable on telephones
and a computer option for people on anything. But I
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don't want someone waiting for five hours to get through
on the telephone. I want to make sure that there
are enough people live people who can handle the level
of phone calls, because over time, I think you would agree, David,
that more and more people are going to default to
computers and away from telephones, which I think is that's
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not me.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I don't probably not you.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
I don't agree with you because I think that once
Elon Musk got our Social Security numbers, they don't Most
people don't want to use the computer to interact with
the Social Security because they don't trust Elon Musk and
the idea that we're being trapped into using computers that
he now has control of. I find that horrible, and
(16:02):
I consider Elon Musk a trader, and for Donald Trump
to keep a trader on the books.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Let's let's let's impiach him. How did that work out
the first few times, David.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Well, he got through the it got through the House.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But the coward leader he got reelected because of people
like you, David. David, Donald Trump. You are the greatest
gift to Donald Trump that he has people listening to
you tonight. They're saying I'm gonna vote for Trump again
because they think your nuts, David. That's what they think.
What do you think, Elon Musk? This whole is walking
around with your with your social Security number. I protect
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my social Security number. I gotta have some faith that
the government is going to protect my social Security number.
Do you think Musk is saying to Trump, let's get
David in San Francisco's SO Security number. You know, they say,
if they're really after you, you're not paranoid, David. I got
news for you. They're not really after you. I think your.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Parent, dude.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
They've already admitted that Elon Musk has got our social
security numbers.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I'm sure, I'm sure. I'm sure he's got your SO
Security number, David, and I'm sure that he's now investigating you,
that he's going deeply into your background. That's the only
reason that Musk, in my opinion, has gotten into this situation.
You know as well as I do, that the Tesla
stock has plummeted in the last couple of weeks. It's
gone from like four hundred to two sixty. But Elon
(17:29):
Musk is prepared to lose billions of dollars as long
as he can get David in San Francisco's Social Security number.
I have no idea what he's going to do with it,
but David. If I were you, I would worry. I
would worry.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Well, if you want to call me a fool, I
would say.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
That I.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Called you totally paranoid. Paranoid David would are you wearing
your swim trunks? Rob David? I tried, I really tried. Tonight,
we'll be back right after the newsnight.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
We will probably talk about the Karen Read trial tomorrow
and night. I just heard Dan Watkins report and I'm
looking here very quickly at it. It just cleared the
wires here about forty minutes ago. The Boston Global article
has lost her bid. Trying to see which judge it
(18:37):
was that threw this out, I I haven't been able
to read this US A veteran US District Court Judge F.
Dennis Salor the fourth disagreed on both points. This quote
sees no basic to clude the judge's decision to clear
mistrial was incorrect her improper. I disagree with that decision.
I disagree with the decisions of the State Supreme Court. Uh,
(19:00):
and we'll talk about that tomorrow night. But again, there
are plenty of legal decisions that I disagree with in
this country. He says, further Sailor Road, it would be
an intrusion for federal court to direct the state court
to conduct avoider of former jurors and would implicate substantial
concerns of federalism and comedy. That's a stretch, judge. Okay,
(19:22):
back to the call as we go. Uh, we got
a lot going on tonight, Patrick in DC. Hey, Patrick,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I just couldn't resist, you know, since you were talking
about my hometown once again and a government shutdown. And yes,
I am concerned about it. And I'll tell you why
I'm concerned about it, because it adds to the misery index.
Remember the misery index.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Yes, oh, yes, that was what Ronald Reagan. That's what
Ronald Reagan talked about life under Jimmy Carter. High inflation.
Uh oh yeah, the misery index. Absolutely, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
This shows me is that the Senate thing that they
like to be the Senate and they like to use
their Senate speak, and they have their they could have
their eyes on that Sunday talk shows, you know with
the breasted chatterboxers. And if they go ahead and allow
it to shut down. Now it's just going into the
(20:22):
weekend midnight or Friday, you know, so they can, you know,
get on their Sunday talk shows with the shutdown, when
when they know they're going to open it back up
come Monday or Tuesday. That's what concerns me that they're not.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
I don't worry about it. No, I'll tell you wouldn't
worry about Here's why. Let me let me put your
mind at ease. Believe it, believe it or not. This
is the first time in many years that I can
remember that there has been no congressional recess this late
in the year, meaning they were sworn in in early January.
(20:56):
They were there through the inauguration, they have been there
through all the hair rings dealing with the cabinet selections.
And the House went home yesterday, as I understand it,
for the first time, uh since since early early January.
The Senate now is left in Washington alone. The senators,
(21:17):
they they will they all the all the bookers on
the Sunday morning talk shows, the Sunday talk shows will
have their pick of the litter because because there were
no House members in town, they've all skidaddled. Okay, so
all these Senate guys and gals can stick around. They
can be on any show they want, Okay on Sunday,
(21:41):
and I think that Schumer's comments tonight to NPR that
he's going to vote UH to uh to end the filibuster.
He's going to join the fifty three Republicans. Fetterman is
already that will get the the requisite number of votes
so that the philibuster will be broken, and that the
(22:01):
Senate will vote tomorrow to approve the continuing Resolution that
the House has already passed, and they'll have it on
the President's desk tomorrow night. This is actually a win
for Donald Trump because he was going to say if
the government shut down, it's the Senate's fault and they
did not want to take the heat.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Well, I guess that my vision is at ease, but
it's kind of partially right because they're going to be
sticking around and write the Sunday talk shows will have
the pick of the letter. Because I'll tell.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
You this, if I'm wrong, I expect you to call
me Monday and say, Dan, you misled me. I want
you to put your head on your pillow tonight in
Washington or near Washington, wherever your pillow is, and I
want you to sleep soundly tonight. And I hope I
hope that I hope that our friend David in San Francisco.
(22:53):
We go coast to coast, we're by coastal here. I
hope that my friend is out of the water and
toweling off somewhere in San Francisco right now, because that
was a cool thing for me to do, to put
him into the water. I was actually trying to agree
with him, and he wouldn't even allow me to agree
with him.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Hey, give me fifty thousand watts in nine minutes, you know, Hey,
I could sell a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
I understand that. I will tell you this though. We
now found out tonight through David that the whole reason
Elon Musk is doing this is so he can get
David so security number. I never.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
They call it, they call it doge right d og.
And you know how the.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
Department of you have to have an acronym to Department
of Governmental Efficiency. And by the way, the points David
made tonight I agreed with, and it befuddled him that
we could agree on something.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
You're not going to win with San Francisco, my friend.
You're not going to win with San Francisco. I always says, Doge,
excuse me, this might go but there is the there
is the element that though the sentamon the cinnamon hygiene procedure,
and I'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
You got to kill that one. Thank you, Patrick, God
bless you say three hour fathers and two Hail Mary's
and we'll talk again. Okay, thanks, thank you, have a
great night. Where we're gonna go next. I got Mac
in Florida. Matt, how are you tonight?
Speaker 5 (24:33):
Well, I'm doing great, doing great. Dan, flight's good, life's
good for the working gack. You know, people have a
job and pavia attaxes. It's great. It's a great time.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
By the way, I don't I'm not going to beat
up on David here, but did you understand that I
was actually trying to agree with David tonight for the
first time.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
I can. I mean, yeah, you were trying to help
them out, but I mean cans billions of dollars. He
doesn't care. He doesn't need anyone's money. Like, he's not
worried about your money, my money. He's genuinely trying to
stop waste. Like I don't know why, man, that's so
complicated for people like, I know, I haven't a lot
(25:16):
of liberal friends back in Massachusetts, and like they're angry
at this guy for like saving money. It makes no sense.
It's it's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Well, it makes a lot of sense. No, it makes
a lot of sense, Matt in this in my belief
because a lot of these folks have kind of ridden
the gravy train for years. I mean the amount of money.
We're thirty seven trillion in the hole. I mean if
you own thirty cent, if you owed thirty seven trillion
(25:46):
to the bookies, you'd be sleeping with the fishes, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
Oh my god. And it's it's so funny because my
for for years, my friend would all he went for tough. Okay,
for a year, he would make fun of me for
working for corporations. He'd be like, oh, they can fire
you anytime you want. The second Trump gets elected, he's
freaking out. He's telling me, oh, he's gonna cut all
the jobs at universities and research departments and blah blah blah.
(26:15):
And I go, oh, well, it's good now you feel
some of that threat. You know, there's a lot of
people who work I mean working for universities different than
working for the government, but not really, you know, I
mean it is, but it isn't. And it's like, yeah,
it's not. There's no such thing as as as a
guarantee in life. And it's like these people finally realize,
(26:38):
I mean, your time is up. Sorry, but that's how
it works.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Yeah, and again life has been good at universities, and
the universities kind of messed up in the sense that
and even today there's a if I can find this
from from maybe I can't, uh look for there was
a statement from about three hundred members of the Harvard
(27:05):
faculty and and they're all upset about this guy being deported, uh,
the guy that raised a lot of problems at Columbia
who's not a US citizen. And they are jumping into
the you know, into the line of fire defending this guy.
And I'm thinking to myself, they've learned nothing. These very
(27:26):
smart faculty people at Harvard. You know, there's there's this
level of anti Semitism which.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
Just won't go away, won't go away, and they're going
to try to elevate this guy to become I don't know,
the next the next Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
In our country or something like that.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
It's the amount of money they have. People don't even realize.
It's like like they I mean, look at Harvard for example,
they own half a cambridge. They don't they don't pay taxes.
They have so many endowment they have billions and billions
and endowment and it's like, how about you use some
of that money, you know, divest some of it a
little in like like the money's there, and Uh, it's
(28:08):
just I mean, it's just nuts. People get just get
so angry. It's like and the best part, I don't
know if you realize Trump says they were saying tonight,
if he cuts enough, he's his goal with this is
to try to cut taxes for anyone who makes less
than one hundred and fifty thousand. How have you followed
up on this?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Well, he's also he's also said no taxes on tips,
no taxes on social security. Uh, if he's able to
save some money.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
I can who's against and who's against getting rid of waste?
It's outrageous, Like why would you be against that?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Well, if you are on the gravy train, and by
getting rid of waste, the gravy train was going to stop.
I mean, there's I've read reports and I haven't been
able to nail the reports down that there was a
charity that Stay Abrams in Georgia was running which received
two billion dollars from the Biden administration. That's a lot
(29:09):
of money. I mean, you know, maybe somebody don't think
that's not a lot of money. I want to know
at first if it's true. There's so much stuff being
thrown at us, it's difficult to figure out what is true.
When Trump was talking the other night at the State
of the Union or not the State of the Unity,
the joint addressed to Congress, and he was talking about
how all of these old people are on Social Security
(29:31):
lists and all of that. You know, don't try to
spin me that that means five thousand people over the
age of one hundred and forty is still getting Social
Security checks. I don't think that's the truth. I think
that there was some sort of a coding error which
showed the inefficiency at at Social Security and that needs
to be tightened up. But so the Trump people should not.
(29:52):
I've done stories. I've done shows that the Trump people
are sometimes out over the keys, but sometimes they're right
and they're reaching people like you, who are who never
would have supported Donald Trump when I first got to
know you. You're a Bernie Sanders guy, you know that.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
But yeah, I mean, I mean, he's not a bought
and soul politician. And again, David, Elon Musk is a
concern about you. He's got billions at all. He doesn't
need your money.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
So I think David's concerned that Elon's gonna, you know,
walk in the door somebody or something and send him
to every education camp. That's that's what I think David's
thinking out there. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I'm looking forward to your show tomorrow about Karen Reid.
You should do all four or four hours about Karen Reid.
I can't wait to listen. Thanks Jim.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Well, we'll do some of it tomorrow, that's for sure. Again,
she's going to go back to trial. And I think
that this is I think it is outrageous. I think,
and again I'm not, I have no idea what happened.
I don't know. I mean, I have not.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
We all know what happened. But that's okay, Well I don't,
I don't. I'm not dying. You gotta say that. You
got to say that.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
But no, go to say that I'm going to tell
you the truth. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Because everyone knows what happened fair enough.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Well I'm then I guess you've become a sky in
the world.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
No, you're not. You're very smart. You'll know, you'll know
what happened.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
One la, good night. Take a quick break here. I
got a couple of lines at six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty and I got one at six one, seven,
nine thirty. Fill him up. Let's finish strong. Coming back
on night Side.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Now, back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
By the way, this is the Harvard faculty group, the
Harvard Faculty and Staff for Justice in Palestine. It's a
diverse and inclusive organization of over three hundred Harvard faculty
and staff committed to Palestinian liberation. One of Hell that
means a local chapter of thetional Faculty and Staff of
Justice in Palestine. The arrest of Mahoun mah Mood Khalil
(32:05):
for his peaceful advocacy against genocide and the cancelation of
federal research funding GET Columbia and other universities across the
country constitutes significant blows to academic freedom and American civil liberties. Uh,
this guy didn't have a lot more than peaceful advocacy.
Let's go to Dot in Medford. Dot has more brains
(32:28):
than than some of these faculty members at Harvard. Hey, Dot,
how are you?
Speaker 7 (32:32):
Hey? All I want to know is are you gonna
let us know if David washes up on Alpatrez tonight?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
We have people in San Francisco trying to make sure
that he gets out of the water safely and gets
it gets gets into a location that Elon muskant get
to him.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Oh what a what a piece of work he is?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
He was just trying to I was simply trying to
agree with you. Were I frustrated him tonight on that
I don't think when you you know, DoD, Let me
just say this, I don't know how good you are
at a computer. But if you have a question about security, right,
I don't think so, and I respect that. I want
to have the option of if it's a complicated story,
(33:18):
to speak to a human person at so security, and
I want you to have that as well. He wouldn't
He not wanted me? Yeah, he wanted to be convinced
that whatever.
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Unbelievable. I couldn't believe what I was listening to.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
One of my favorite callers I.
Speaker 7 (33:38):
Called about Tuma. But first I want to say how
astatic I am at the finding on the Read trial today.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Okay, I'm going to disagree with you on that one.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
I know you are, I know you are, but I'm
a static But I can't believe Shuma. I can't believe Schumer.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Well, I think Schuman is doing the right thing. I
think that Schuma has been positioned where if the Democrats
don't allow a vote in the Senate, President Trump is
going to say the Democrats were blocked the vote in
the Senate, and that's forced to shut the government down. Right,
So Schumer is doing the right thing politically.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
I think the right thing for Trump, but not for himself.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Well, well, the alternative is, when you think about it,
is if he stands and says, we will not give
you the seven votes that you need to get a vote,
and we're gonna We're gonna continue the filibuster. The government
shut down, shuts down. President Trump can point at Schumann
and say that's the guy that shut the government down.
Normally it's the reverse. The Democrats appointing you. The Republicans
(34:46):
say those are the guys that shut the government down,
and the Republicans will run that play a couple of times,
not to their benefit.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
I know.
Speaker 7 (34:53):
Well, it's gonna be very interesting to see what happens
with the vote Tomorrow's.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Well, if Schumer says that he's going to vote along
with Fetterman, uh, I think there'll be enough Democratic senators
who are going to follow Schumer. But we'll see. Call
me tomorrow, you know. Okay, all right, all right, thanks doc,
good night, have a great night. Let me go to
let me go next to I lean in a cambridge,
(35:20):
I lean you next do nights. I welcome.
Speaker 8 (35:23):
Hi, Hi, Hi, I'm fine. I'm but on the possibility
of government shutdown, I am I have to applaud uh
Trump for going right to walk trying to clean up.
(35:48):
Uh what's a lot of uh crazy stuff that's been
going on, like social Security payments to people who've been
dead for over one hundred years.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Or yeah, well he's implied that, but they haven't shown
me any evidence of that. And I think that that
it's I think it's what they call a coding era.
I'm convinced of that that people's names were not cleaned
off the Social Security roles. My understanding, and I've had
it confirmed a couple of ways that when someone passes away,
(36:27):
I believe that there's an obligation on the funeral home
to notify Social Security that that individual is no longer
with us. So I don't think when the President in
that speech to Congress was talking about, you know, thirty
thousand people being listed on SO Security rolls over the
one hundred the age of one hundred and twenty or whatever,
(36:47):
he might be right. They might be on the rolls,
but I think that they that they lost their birth
dates or something and they put them all in having
been born in eighteen seventy five or something. I think
that we will find out that is this some fraud
and Social Security? Yes, but nothing like the President has implied.
Speaker 8 (37:06):
Okay, well, I think what he's trying to do is
to save us money.
Speaker 9 (37:12):
He's obviously.
Speaker 8 (37:14):
There are people who are getting paid and aren't doing
any work.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
That's what you and I think that's I think that's true.
They're trying to find out if people are they are
they performing a service for the government. Let's find out.
Let's give them a chance, know a lot of people
have talked about it. No one has done anything about it.
At least he's trying to do something about it.
Speaker 9 (37:38):
Well, I get it, Yeah, I got Okay, I hate
to do this.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
I got one more call. Thank you so much for calling.
I want to give one person just a minute.
Speaker 9 (37:45):
Here, okay, Okay, we'll up.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
We can talk tomorrow night during the eleven everybody gets
a haul passed tomorrow night at eleven. Okay, thanks, all.
Speaker 8 (37:54):
Right, I'll try.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, I might do an open line tomorrow night. Thanks that.
We talk to you later. Okay. We have seen you
in the twenties. Thanks Steven Rocked and Steve, I got
about a minute for you. You go right ahead. You
called late, but I'll get you and go ahead, Steve.
Speaker 9 (38:08):
Hey, Dan, I really appreciate it. Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Yes, I can hear your fine, I get about a minute.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
Go ahead, yep.
Speaker 9 (38:14):
I really appreciate it. Long time listener, first time Kaula.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
And all right, I.
Speaker 9 (38:22):
Appreciate what you're doing because you always tell us truth.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Shoot from the hip.
Speaker 9 (38:25):
I love it, Dan, keep it up, and I think
I think we're going in the right direction. Everyone has
to have patients and uh, some of the stuff that's
coming out is mind blowing. We all have to pay atention.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
No, it is, and I gotta tell you, I tell
the truth. Is I see it. I'm not saying I'm
one hundred percent wrong. I mean I am not. Look
I make mistakes, but I'll give you my best, honest answer.
That's all I'm trying to do. And all I want
to know is we thank you, Thank you, thanks so much.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (38:59):
I appreciate right back at you, Steve. Call again. I
look forward to your second call. Thanks for the first
time call. I really do appreciate it.
Speaker 9 (39:06):
Say good Dan, good.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
Night, have a great one. Good night. All right, We're
done for the night. Rob, great job, busy night, Marita,
great job. We got through it. We will talk about
Karen Reie tomorrow night. I'll tell you my honest feeling
on Its simple as that, and I will be on
Nights Out with Dan Ray on Facebook and we'll give
you the latest information on our brunch on April twenty
(39:30):
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