March 31, 2025 • 32 mins
There have been more cases emerging of Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents arresting and detaining students and working professionals who have had their Visas revoked over engagement in activities that are “counter to our national interest or our foreign policy” or in some cases with no explanation given at all. Do you think the arrests are a violation of these individuals’ civil liberties? Are these detainments and potential deportations worth spending valuable political capital on?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Night side with Dan Ray ONBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
So thanks to all the callers who joined us on
the SO scurity issue. And I'll tell you that tomorrow
I will have Jim Roosevelt on Boston Attorney and also
the grandson of Franklin Roosevelt. We'll talk about so scurity
tomorrow night. Now, I am very supportive of the Trump
administration's efforts to get gangland gang members and terrorist members
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of MS thirteen, members of the Venezuelan gang, who they've
now sent at least a couple of flights, one to
Al Salvador and at least a couple of flights back
to Venezuela. I am certainly interested in pulling criminals off
the streets of the country. And I know that there
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will be some friends of mine in the ACLU who
will disagree with me, and who will say that every
he has a trial, everybody should have due process. And
I think that if you have come here illegally and
you remember of a gang, or if you're someone who
has been convicted of a crime, get him out of
the country, make them serve their time, and then get
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them out of the country. However, I don't understand, and
maybe someone can explain it to me why the Trump
administration has decided to do some of these arrests in public.
There's one that has taken place here in Medford, Massachusetts,
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at Tufts. A woman who's here from Turkey as thirty
year old. She's some sort of a graduate student dealing
with it seems like a relatively non controversial situation. She
has apparently co edited or co written a piece that
was supportive of Hamas. I am appalled that anyone would
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support Hamas in any way, shape or form. However, she
had a visa, she was here legally, the visa was
terminated and she was arrested on the streets by about
five or six plane clothes ice officers. It's not a
good look. It is something that basically, I think becomes
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visually so disconcerting that even people who support like me,
the deportation of gang members, the trend di Agua Gang
MS thirteen and others are a little well, I wouldn't
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say upset, but I'm certainly somewhat quizzical. The other thing
is that I want to mention is that many of
these people who have been arrested taken into custody and
moved Louisiana. There's not much information other than she she
wrote a piece supporting Hamas. I mean, uh, there's no
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one who is more pro Israel as far as I know. Then,
I I don't see how you can be much more
pro Israel than I am. But if she's here legally
on a visa, uh and she decides to write a
pro hamas h editorial. Uh And if you want to
look at at whenever the visa expires and make it
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make a decision upon that. Those sort of actions administratively,
I'm okay with that, But I'm not okay with suspending,
terminating the visa and arresting them on the streets because
I think it's counterproductive and I think it gives ammunition
to the other side. Uh And and just because I
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agree with or I disagree with the the arrest of
the graduate student. There's a professor from Brown, a medical
professor who was sent back to Lebanon because she had
attended Alma's funeral. I want to know the specifics, Okay,
I don't want to If we're going to terminate visas
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which we extended, I want to know there has to
be a modicum of due process for that, and I
didn't see any modicum of due process. Now I know
somebody going to disagree, Bring it on. I think there's
a distinct difference between a member of a known terrorist
organization such as Trendi Agua or MS thirteen and someone
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who's here on a visa legally who has a different
point of view than I do have that I have
Onjmas or the government has on Hamas. Let me go
next to Undan in San Francisco. Hey, Dan, it's been
a while. Welcome back. How are you good?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Dan? Thanks very much for taking my call. And this
is gonna be one of those nights where you and
I agree completely about what's going on.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Okay, I agree with you that.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
The arrest of that particular student, Ramesa oz Turk in
Somerville was visually disconcerting, and I believe it is counterproductive,
and I do believe that it makes America look bad.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Do you let me ask you this, Do you agree
with me? I don't have a problem what they did
with Trent Ragua. And by the way, if in that
mass arrest there were any individuals who were picked up incorrectly,
I want them returned here. Okay, yes, you know, and
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I think that the that when you have a mass
arrest like that and a mass deportation, the potential for
mistake occurs. The fact that someone was a Venezuelan soccer
player doesn't necessarily mean they're not a member of trent
Do Agua, by the way, but if they are not
a member of trent to Agua or an active member,
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they should be allowed to return here. And I mean
they were talking about some guy who was a gay
barber or somewhere in California. He could still be a
member of trend to Agua. That doesn't But if the
person is living here, working as a barber or as
a soccer player or whatever, and they have no association
with the gang, bring him back.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And I agree with you on that too. And as
you mentioned, the student, missus Oster, was not a gang
member and she was not a terrorist. She's actually a
doctoral student and what she's studying is a child study
in human development at Tuff's University, and she's here on
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a full write scholarship, and she had a valid F
one student visa. And the the op ed that she
wrote in the newspaper for Tufts was written a year ago. Okay,
so now all of a sudden she's targeted. And I
also want to point out that in her op ed,
she did not support Hamas and she did not support terrorism.
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All she was saying she was talking about the university
divesting some of its endowment from Israeli companies, and she
talked about the Palestinians who are getting killed in the
war and gods of the Palestinian civilians.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeahs, I will disagree with that. That's the the b
d I I believe boycott divest uh the movement or
the BDS. Is it TI or b d I or BDS.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
That I.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Know is she didn't support Hamas and she didn't support terrorism.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And yes, I will do agree with her on the
idea of boycotting Israel. I'll disagree with her on anything
that you know, Palestinians being killed. I'm sad that there
were Palestinians being killed, but guess what, the Israelis have
to defend themselves. So I will debate her on all
of those topics. But at the same time, I come
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down to the final the place you are, and that
is that it is counterproductive when you have people like
that swopped up on the street. It is just not
a good look, that's all. That's that's where I'm coming from.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And it was filmed, right and just to let you know,
I mean, I think you know, but what the audience
to know that the people who arrested her were wearing
playing clothes, they were wearing masks. Most of they didn't
identify themselves to her, and they handcuffed.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, they did know they they I couldn't tell what.
Here's what I think happened. She was targeted, okay, And
I think that there were some cars that were parked
in this area of the school, whether it was on
the school campus or whether it was just off campus.
And I think there was someone in an apartment who
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noticed the cars and they put one and one together
and they had their video cam and and they happened
to have That's why it wasn't videotaped by the government.
It was videotaped by another person, probably a student. But
there was a point in time where you could see
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where they took their badges out, so she knew that
she was not being kidnapped, not that that was any
consolation in her, but there was an effort they showed.
I saw one of them show what look to me
like a badge. It wasn't like they were coming up
to her without showing any identification and they were taking
the badges. The badges were down inside their sweatshirts or
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whatever their their their outer clothing was, and then you
take the badge out and you hang it so it
can be seen. You know. So that's still at one
point that I wanted to disagree with you on.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Okay, okay, okay, But I don't know why they didn't
have uniforms on right. I mean, imagine if you were
surrounded by six people and they pull out something that
could be a badge, and maybe maybe not a badge.
They didn't look like law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well, if they were sitting in cars with you, they
were sitting, if they were sitting at cars, and if
they were sitting in the cars with uniforms, and their
goal was to apprehend this woman, or if their goal
was to apprehend a more dangerous person, sitting in cars
with uniform probably would be counter productive, don't you think, Well.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Let's look at her. She's a thirty year old woman
who's a PhD student.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
You know, I can't look I'm with you on that
at all.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
But I have. My point is that that she shouldn't
have been had her visa pulled, and if the visa
was there, she shouldn't have been was she still shouldn't
have been arrested. Whether they were in uniform. Look, ICE
agents are not the most popular group of people here
in in Medford, Massachusetts, as I'm sure you know, so
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you know they they probably were doing what they felt
that they had to do for their own safety as well.
In my opinion, I mean, there are people out there
who are now saying, there's a guy on TikTok today
saying when you see an ICE agent, shoot him.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
No, No, that's crazy talk.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Of course it's crazy talking. But if you're an ICE
agent and you're there to apprehend someone, and you've been
given an assignment, and you say do I have to
wear a uniform? If they say no, we want you
to go playing clothes, you will, I think that's that's
a criticism that's somewhat peripheral at the moment in terms
of the major point.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, I'll accept that, all right, Great, I do want
to say, if I may, is that really I mean,
it's making us look xenophobic, it's making us look authoritarian.
It's making us look hypocritical in terms of not respecting
freedom of speech and due process and the rule of law.
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And it's it's just antagonizing our allies around the world
when Trump really should be paying attention to getting prices down.
That's what he ran on, that's what he was elected on,
and it's it's not all of this uh, sweeping up
people and harassment.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But but you are okay with getting the terrorist out
of the country. I hope we're in agreement on that.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, yes, yeah, okay, but this is going too far.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I good enough. Okay, we're on the We're on the
same page. We're on the same page. Okay, thank you much,
thank you very much. Thanks, Okay, thanks San Francisco, one
of my great callers from San Francisco. Okay, thanks, thank you.
Bye bye, all right, bye bye. The bar is not
that high. We'll take a quick break if you'd like
to join the conversation. If you agree or disagree, feel free.
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Six one, seven, two, five four to ten thirty six
one seven, nine, three one ten thirty. This is one
you know. Look, I understand the goal and the fact
that there are people self deporting. That's a good thing.
As well in my opinion. Okay, but just as we
criticized the deportation of the Mexican the family, the mom
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and dad who were illegals, their ten year old daughter
dealing with brain cancer and she was stopped on the
way to a hospital and then they were deported. That's
not America. Come on, guys, let's uh. You know, I'm
as much of a lauren on a person as anyone,
But there's a few there's always an exception to some
of these rules, and some of the rules in this case,
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I think, just pulling visas because someone wrote something and
disagree with there's a big step between that and someone
who actually is an active terrorist. The guy in New
York may have a different situation because what he may
or may not have done in Colombia. But I've seen
no evidence that this Turkish woman did anything other than
write a piece for I guess a local newspaper or
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maybe the student newspaper. Back on nights Side, right after this,
It's Night Tide.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
With Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Back we Go, Bob is in California. Bob, appreciate your patience.
You were next on Night Side, Bob.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yes, Stan Good evening, Dan, I respectfully disagree with you
on this and the previous caller okay, tell us, well, yeah,
we okay, we are at war. We're at war with Hamas, Isbela,
and Iran, and they're expressed preppers, as you obviously know,
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is the annihilation of Israel. They don't want Israel to exist.
And when you have somebody in this country like that student,
she's pro terrorist, Okay, she was supporting Hamas, get her
out of here. Okay. If you're supporting Hamas, you are
anti Semitic, and you are pro terrorist, and you are
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obviously abilivious to what happened October seventh. You probably never
saw any films about the Holocaust. Okay, how dare her
come to this country national resources and then start writing
an editorial where you're supporting terrorism and of us. No,
there was a great move to get her out okay.
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And I love like with Columbia. Columbia fired their president
as you know, they suddenly put money ahead of their
so called principles. You know, they were an incubator. Columbia,
like a lot of these universities of hate. Okay. Now,
the argument that some people use, like the last caller,
is oh, free speech. No, hate speech does not fall
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under free speech.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well, I understand your point. The problem is this, I
might be sympathetic to the idea of moving people like
this out of the country. However, I think the way
in which you do things is important. And I just
think that the optics of this woman walking down the
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street alone and being confronted by six Ice agents again,
she did not look like a terrorist. I have not
read the article that she wrote. You may have, but
it would have to have really been more than just
simple simple empathy for that point of view. If she
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celebrated if in the article, I should probably have tried
to find the article, and maybe I will by this
time tomorrow find it. If she had celebrated what Hamas
did on October seventh, that's a different story. That's a
different story in my opinion. But she if she wrote
a relatively bland article, and maybe in the break I
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will try to give it a quick read here. And
I may have been remiss and not reading it. I
just I haven't seen this should have been if the
White House was certain, Bob, it would have been nice
if they said, after they arrested her, we have arrested
phil in her name. The reason we have arrested her
is her visa was revoked. The reason we revoked her
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visa was because on this date, in this news article
she wrote quote whatever she said. I would feel differently
about it depending upon what they came up with. But
the only response from the White House so far is
that that she wrote an article which was a supportive
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of Hamas. But I wish it was. I wish they
would lay it out. What do they mean by supportive?
Do you know what I'm trying, what I'm trying to say, or.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
No, I think you have a point. But again, I'm
going to go write back to what I said. I'm
okay with what they did. Okay, we'll send a message
if you're in this country and or thousands or students
that have come here to use our resources, if they
hate America, like clearly she does, is she's pro Hamas,
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then okay, go to the guys the strip, go over indeed,
with the Palestinians, go where you know, go over there. Okay,
don't come to this country and be writing hate speech.
Don't be doing that. And I'm totally okay with how
they removed her. Okay, but then I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But what I'm saying is if if she was writing
hate speech, I wish they had laid it out for me.
Uh and so I could see what the what the
hate speech was. I'm looking at an article here from
National Review, which is a conservative magazine. They write, the writer,
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who I do not know, says, while I can see
the legality of the administration's move against Ramasha Ousturk, I
reject this morality imprudence. You're a Turkish graduate student at
Tufts University named Remisa auster Co wrote an op ed
for the school's newspaper complaining about the administration's failure to
respect student government demands for the university's divest from Israel.
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Few seem to have read the piece. Rather than a
statement of anti Semitic ideology, it's a bland process complaint
about anti Semitic ideology, landed with Gratruda's quotes from James
Baldwin typically forget to put left wing juvenilia. In other words,
I'm going to read the article during the break here, Bob,
and I'll, you know, I will come back and and
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see what what what I might come up with here? Okay,
this this article was written, was published on March twenty six,
twenty twenty four. So let me see what I come
Let me see what I come up with.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Okay, Okay. Clearly she's anti Israel. Okay, she was criticizing,
you know, for the ties of Israel. She's anti Israel, Okay,
which means she's pro terrorist. She's pro hamas well.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I don't know. That might be for me a bridge
too far. I'm very pro Israel. Okay, But let me
let me read the article, and I can read it,
and I'll come back on the other side and I'll
have comment on it. Okay, I will. I've found it
and we will read it, I promise you. Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Sounds good. All right, Thanks, thank you, Dan, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Bob, good night, talk to you. So good. All right,
all right, let me take a quick break here, we'll
break a little early. I'm going to talk to John
and Bob, and if you want to join us, feel free.
Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, six, seven, nine,
three thirty. This article appeared in the Toughs Daily, which
is the student newspaper at Toughts. It was written co
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written by four individuals. It was published March twenty sixth
a year ago. Twenty and twenty four. I'll read it
and I'll have some comments when we get back, and
i'd love to get your reaction to what we're talking about.
We'll be back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Okay, as I promised, I've just read the op ad
written by these four individuals, including Rumeisha Ostork, the woman
who was arrested last week near either on or near
the Toughs University campus. The first paragraph I'm going to
read to you of the is all I want to
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focus on. This is only an op ed piece of three, four, five, six, seven,
eight paragraphs. It's not that long. On March fourth, the
Toughs Community Union sent it passed three out of four
resolutions demanding that the university acknowledged the Palestinian genocide, apologize
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for university President Saneil Kamara's statements to close its investments,
and divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel.
These resolutions are the product of meaningful debate by the Senate.
This is the tough University. It's not the United States Senate.
It's a bunch of students, okay, and represent some sincere
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effort to hold Israel accountable for clear violations of international law.
Now we're getting into an area that's problematic. Credible accusations
against Israel include accounts of deliberate starvation, I don't think
that's a pretty strong allegation, indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians,
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and plausible genocide. This is obviously a woman whose mind
is not in the right place. But there's a lot
of people on the left's minds or not in the
right place, and we can't kick them out of the
country for their minds not being the right place. I
wish my friend, I hope my friend Bob is listening.
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Credible accusations, first of all, credible by whom against Israel
include accounts of deliberate starvation, really indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians,
and plausible genocide. Well, we did have indiscriminate slaughter of
Israeli civilians that we know on October seventh. We did
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have plausible genocide allegations because I think the individuals who
went in and attacked the folks at the dance festival
and went into the Kobutz's area and killed older, old men,
old women as and infants. I think that was genocide.
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I think they went after them because they were Jewish.
I think that's pretty clear or Israeli. Israel then has
a right to defend themselves. This is stupid, editory, stupid
position taken by people who obviously may be antisemitic, certainly
are anti Israel. But I still don't think that once
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you give a visa to someone that you can rescind
the visa or revoke the visa because they've written a stupid,
tough daily editorial, in my opinion, and I don't think
that that's where the American people want the Trump administration
to focus, in my opinion, and I just think it's
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a bad look. So if you'd like to join the conversation,
you can agree or disagree. I've got a couple of
lines still open. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten
thirty or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Let me go next to Bob and Rain and Bob
you were next on Nightside. Hi, Bob, how are you.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Good?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Dan going great? If I'm not mistaken, you're you're a
pretty solid supporter of President Trump? Correct?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yeah, I would, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Okay, so I am I right or wrong on this
issue in your opinion. I want to hear what you say.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
So I guess I don't like the look of, you know,
actually doing it in broad daylight. But I have to
say just I think that we should be removing these
people just as they were allowed into the country at
two o'clock in the morning while we were sleeping. And
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I don't know if this is a particular case. But
while I don't think.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
She supposedly is a full bright scholar, I don't think
she's too bright anyway. But that's okay. That sort of
diminished the standards if she's a full bright scholar. This
article could have been written by a seventh grader. I mean,
it's there's nothing astonishing about this article. But go ahead.
I don't mean I did not well, I did mean
to interrupt. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Well, I think there might be more to it than
just that article. There you know these you know that
where you know that the Trump administration is looking at.
And also i'd like to say that you know how
quickly we forget uh nine to eleven uh, those folks
are simulated in the communities. They went to cookouts, they
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were in bowling leagues, I believe, and stuff like that,
and we know what happened there. And I don't believe
that the First Amendment applies to people on student visas.
And if they speak against our country or our allies
or whatever. And I think for any kind of you know,
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hate hate type message, they should be removed from the
country or Okay, I can.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Understand your position there. But having read the article, the
toughest part of the article, the one sentence that most
offends me as a supporter of Israel and as someone
who who insists on the survivor of Israel. Credible accusations
against Israel include acounts of deliberate starvation and indiscriminate slaughter
of Palestinine civilians and plausible Gemiside genocide. They they, they
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they sweet, They write with these these wide brushes and
they don't substantiate anything. And first of all, if there's
any any genocide that was involved, it was on October seventh,
the morning of October seventh, at the music festival, and
in the kibbutz.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Of course it was.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
But I just think that that that that the administration
before they pick someone up like this here, she's not
she's not should be the first group that that she's
that they're worried about. I would be worried about. Let's
get the terrorists out first, Let's get the criminals out second, uh,
and then we can start to worry about maybe some
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of the agitators within these these uh these campuses. Okay,
and the guy in in Colombia, he may have been
somebody who was a real leader of that demonstration. That's
different than somebody writing a juvenile op ed piece in
a college newspaper, in my opinion.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
But is that the only issue?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well, I assum it was the only issue because the
administration hasn't said. Look, we've also found out that she
was going to whatever fill in the blank, going to
Hamas meetings, sending money to Hamas, whatever they got on her.
What if you go to a rest her and you're
going to kick her out of the country, and you're
going to revoke her visa, which have already done. Give
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me some reasons, give me some reasons. Make your point.
It's not a good look. You said it, I've said it.
And so what happens is that undercuts the public support
for what the Trump administration is rightfully doing.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I agree with that fair enough.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
All right, Bob, appreciate your call very much. Thank you much.
Skip Rowling here got John in Boston. John, you might
wrap us for the night, Go ahead, John.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I just don't think it was a good look for
that woman to be supporting Hamas with that letter. Listening
to an intel expert, Deep Sarah Adams, she's well known,
uh knows about terrorism, and she says right now is
one thousand terrorists here in this country right now, and
they need facilitators and sympathizers to support them. That's how
they get around, that's how they're able to function in
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this country. And Hamas stopped at American hostage American hostages
in Israel who are captured, and Mamas is directly connected
to the Muslim Brotherhood, who was connected to Arafat, who
is connected to Otto Gazzini hit his favorite commando. And
it's like this woman is not you know, she's standing.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Up for Hamas.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
They are killers.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
In the article, by the way, the article that I've
just read in its entirety, because it's not that long,
never mentions Hamas.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Well. The thing is Dan, she's speaking out for the group.
And it's interesting that the FBI is seriously because they
talked about nothing. Look, well, the FBI showed up to
that seventy five year oud grandmother in Kingston, mass and
blackass ups to arrest her because she was in an
abortion play playing she wasn't blocking terrances, and no one
said a word. Very little was said about that. They
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had no problem showing up in black as SUVs to
arrest her and her sister spent a year and a
half in jail, and she was just recently pardoned by
President Trump and all of a sudden, this woman who's.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
No But let me ask you, if does it justify
the excesses of the Biden administration by matching them with
excesses by the Trump administration? Is that a good? Look?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah? I just don't think it's excessive in light of
Boston is a sanctuary city. We the nine to eleven
guys who are here, the Boston Marathon, bambers are here.
A city's been attacked. We're in a very dangerous time
right now, and we don't need people here being sympathetic
to groups that are they're terrorists or very to our country.
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We're our scheduls in grave danger.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Right But look, I understand that I understand that John.
I'm just saying is I would like to spend whatever
resources we have to spend if you want to go
after this woman who wrote an op ed piece in
the who probably was read by five thousand people max.
Five thousand and one, now that I've read it, it
just you're you're spending important political capital. Get the terrorists out,
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get the gang members out, get them, get the convicted
criminals out, Let the self deportation go. Then you can
focus on these other ones. In my opinion, as always,
I'm running out of time, so I gotta let you run.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I gotta let you money from all right, thanks much,
talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
All right, done for the night, Rob Brooks, great job,
I'm reade, a great job. To the calls. We have
some good calls tonight. We'll have We'll have them. Jim
Roosevelt on tomorrow night, will continue our social security conversation.
I'll end us always, all dogs, all cats, all pets
go to heaven. That's my pell. Charlie Ray, who passed
fifteen years ago in February, that's where all your pets
are who have passed. They loved you and you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. I'll see you
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in April, every one. In about two minutes, it will
be April. We're out of March almost in April. Have
a great Tuesday everyone, see tomorrow night. I'll see you
on Facebook in about two minutes
Night side with Dan Ray ONBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
So thanks to all the callers who joined us on
the SO scurity issue. And I'll tell you that tomorrow
I will have Jim Roosevelt on Boston Attorney and also
the grandson of Franklin Roosevelt. We'll talk about so scurity
tomorrow night. Now, I am very supportive of the Trump
administration's efforts to get gangland gang members and terrorist members
(00:33):
of MS thirteen, members of the Venezuelan gang, who they've
now sent at least a couple of flights, one to
Al Salvador and at least a couple of flights back
to Venezuela. I am certainly interested in pulling criminals off
the streets of the country. And I know that there
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will be some friends of mine in the ACLU who
will disagree with me, and who will say that every
he has a trial, everybody should have due process. And
I think that if you have come here illegally and
you remember of a gang, or if you're someone who
has been convicted of a crime, get him out of
the country, make them serve their time, and then get
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them out of the country. However, I don't understand, and
maybe someone can explain it to me why the Trump
administration has decided to do some of these arrests in public.
There's one that has taken place here in Medford, Massachusetts,
(01:39):
at Tufts. A woman who's here from Turkey as thirty
year old. She's some sort of a graduate student dealing
with it seems like a relatively non controversial situation. She
has apparently co edited or co written a piece that
was supportive of Hamas. I am appalled that anyone would
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support Hamas in any way, shape or form. However, she
had a visa, she was here legally, the visa was
terminated and she was arrested on the streets by about
five or six plane clothes ice officers. It's not a
good look. It is something that basically, I think becomes
(02:24):
visually so disconcerting that even people who support like me,
the deportation of gang members, the trend di Agua Gang
MS thirteen and others are a little well, I wouldn't
(02:46):
say upset, but I'm certainly somewhat quizzical. The other thing
is that I want to mention is that many of
these people who have been arrested taken into custody and
moved Louisiana. There's not much information other than she she
wrote a piece supporting Hamas. I mean, uh, there's no
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one who is more pro Israel as far as I know. Then,
I I don't see how you can be much more
pro Israel than I am. But if she's here legally
on a visa, uh and she decides to write a
pro hamas h editorial. Uh And if you want to
look at at whenever the visa expires and make it
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make a decision upon that. Those sort of actions administratively,
I'm okay with that, But I'm not okay with suspending,
terminating the visa and arresting them on the streets because
I think it's counterproductive and I think it gives ammunition
to the other side. Uh And and just because I
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agree with or I disagree with the the arrest of
the graduate student. There's a professor from Brown, a medical
professor who was sent back to Lebanon because she had
attended Alma's funeral. I want to know the specifics, Okay,
I don't want to If we're going to terminate visas
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which we extended, I want to know there has to
be a modicum of due process for that, and I
didn't see any modicum of due process. Now I know
somebody going to disagree, Bring it on. I think there's
a distinct difference between a member of a known terrorist
organization such as Trendi Agua or MS thirteen and someone
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who's here on a visa legally who has a different
point of view than I do have that I have
Onjmas or the government has on Hamas. Let me go
next to Undan in San Francisco. Hey, Dan, it's been
a while. Welcome back. How are you good?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Dan? Thanks very much for taking my call. And this
is gonna be one of those nights where you and
I agree completely about what's going on.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Okay, I agree with you that.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
The arrest of that particular student, Ramesa oz Turk in
Somerville was visually disconcerting, and I believe it is counterproductive,
and I do believe that it makes America look bad.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Do you let me ask you this, Do you agree
with me? I don't have a problem what they did
with Trent Ragua. And by the way, if in that
mass arrest there were any individuals who were picked up incorrectly,
I want them returned here. Okay, yes, you know, and
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I think that the that when you have a mass
arrest like that and a mass deportation, the potential for
mistake occurs. The fact that someone was a Venezuelan soccer
player doesn't necessarily mean they're not a member of trent
Do Agua, by the way, but if they are not
a member of trent to Agua or an active member,
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they should be allowed to return here. And I mean
they were talking about some guy who was a gay
barber or somewhere in California. He could still be a
member of trend to Agua. That doesn't But if the
person is living here, working as a barber or as
a soccer player or whatever, and they have no association
with the gang, bring him back.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And I agree with you on that too. And as
you mentioned, the student, missus Oster, was not a gang
member and she was not a terrorist. She's actually a
doctoral student and what she's studying is a child study
in human development at Tuff's University, and she's here on
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a full write scholarship, and she had a valid F
one student visa. And the the op ed that she
wrote in the newspaper for Tufts was written a year ago. Okay,
so now all of a sudden she's targeted. And I
also want to point out that in her op ed,
she did not support Hamas and she did not support terrorism.
(07:21):
All she was saying she was talking about the university
divesting some of its endowment from Israeli companies, and she
talked about the Palestinians who are getting killed in the
war and gods of the Palestinian civilians.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Yeahs, I will disagree with that. That's the the b
d I I believe boycott divest uh the movement or
the BDS. Is it TI or b d I or BDS.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
That I.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Know is she didn't support Hamas and she didn't support terrorism.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And yes, I will do agree with her on the
idea of boycotting Israel. I'll disagree with her on anything
that you know, Palestinians being killed. I'm sad that there
were Palestinians being killed, but guess what, the Israelis have
to defend themselves. So I will debate her on all
of those topics. But at the same time, I come
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down to the final the place you are, and that
is that it is counterproductive when you have people like
that swopped up on the street. It is just not
a good look, that's all. That's that's where I'm coming from.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
And it was filmed, right and just to let you know,
I mean, I think you know, but what the audience
to know that the people who arrested her were wearing
playing clothes, they were wearing masks. Most of they didn't
identify themselves to her, and they handcuffed.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Well, they did know they they I couldn't tell what.
Here's what I think happened. She was targeted, okay, And
I think that there were some cars that were parked
in this area of the school, whether it was on
the school campus or whether it was just off campus.
And I think there was someone in an apartment who
(09:09):
noticed the cars and they put one and one together
and they had their video cam and and they happened
to have That's why it wasn't videotaped by the government.
It was videotaped by another person, probably a student. But
there was a point in time where you could see
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where they took their badges out, so she knew that
she was not being kidnapped, not that that was any
consolation in her, but there was an effort they showed.
I saw one of them show what look to me
like a badge. It wasn't like they were coming up
to her without showing any identification and they were taking
the badges. The badges were down inside their sweatshirts or
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whatever their their their outer clothing was, and then you
take the badge out and you hang it so it
can be seen. You know. So that's still at one
point that I wanted to disagree with you on.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Okay, okay, okay, But I don't know why they didn't
have uniforms on right. I mean, imagine if you were
surrounded by six people and they pull out something that
could be a badge, and maybe maybe not a badge.
They didn't look like law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Well, if they were sitting in cars with you, they
were sitting, if they were sitting at cars, and if
they were sitting in the cars with uniforms, and their
goal was to apprehend this woman, or if their goal
was to apprehend a more dangerous person, sitting in cars
with uniform probably would be counter productive, don't you think, Well.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Let's look at her. She's a thirty year old woman
who's a PhD student.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
You know, I can't look I'm with you on that
at all.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
But I have. My point is that that she shouldn't
have been had her visa pulled, and if the visa
was there, she shouldn't have been was she still shouldn't
have been arrested. Whether they were in uniform. Look, ICE
agents are not the most popular group of people here
in in Medford, Massachusetts, as I'm sure you know, so
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you know they they probably were doing what they felt
that they had to do for their own safety as well.
In my opinion, I mean, there are people out there
who are now saying, there's a guy on TikTok today
saying when you see an ICE agent, shoot him.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
No, No, that's crazy talk.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Of course it's crazy talking. But if you're an ICE
agent and you're there to apprehend someone, and you've been
given an assignment, and you say do I have to
wear a uniform? If they say no, we want you
to go playing clothes, you will, I think that's that's
a criticism that's somewhat peripheral at the moment in terms
of the major point.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Yeah, I'll accept that, all right, Great, I do want
to say, if I may, is that really I mean,
it's making us look xenophobic, it's making us look authoritarian.
It's making us look hypocritical in terms of not respecting
freedom of speech and due process and the rule of law.
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And it's it's just antagonizing our allies around the world
when Trump really should be paying attention to getting prices down.
That's what he ran on, that's what he was elected on,
and it's it's not all of this uh, sweeping up
people and harassment.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
But but you are okay with getting the terrorist out
of the country. I hope we're in agreement on that.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Yeah, yes, yeah, okay, but this is going too far.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I good enough. Okay, we're on the We're on the
same page. We're on the same page. Okay, thank you much,
thank you very much. Thanks, Okay, thanks San Francisco, one
of my great callers from San Francisco. Okay, thanks, thank you.
Bye bye, all right, bye bye. The bar is not
that high. We'll take a quick break if you'd like
to join the conversation. If you agree or disagree, feel free.
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Six one, seven, two, five four to ten thirty six
one seven, nine, three one ten thirty. This is one
you know. Look, I understand the goal and the fact
that there are people self deporting. That's a good thing.
As well in my opinion. Okay, but just as we
criticized the deportation of the Mexican the family, the mom
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and dad who were illegals, their ten year old daughter
dealing with brain cancer and she was stopped on the
way to a hospital and then they were deported. That's
not America. Come on, guys, let's uh. You know, I'm
as much of a lauren on a person as anyone,
But there's a few there's always an exception to some
of these rules, and some of the rules in this case,
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I think, just pulling visas because someone wrote something and
disagree with there's a big step between that and someone
who actually is an active terrorist. The guy in New
York may have a different situation because what he may
or may not have done in Colombia. But I've seen
no evidence that this Turkish woman did anything other than
write a piece for I guess a local newspaper or
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maybe the student newspaper. Back on nights Side, right after this,
It's Night Tide.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
With Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Back we Go, Bob is in California. Bob, appreciate your patience.
You were next on Night Side, Bob.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yes, Stan Good evening, Dan, I respectfully disagree with you
on this and the previous caller okay, tell us, well, yeah,
we okay, we are at war. We're at war with Hamas, Isbela,
and Iran, and they're expressed preppers, as you obviously know,
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is the annihilation of Israel. They don't want Israel to exist.
And when you have somebody in this country like that student,
she's pro terrorist, Okay, she was supporting Hamas, get her
out of here. Okay. If you're supporting Hamas, you are
anti Semitic, and you are pro terrorist, and you are
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obviously abilivious to what happened October seventh. You probably never
saw any films about the Holocaust. Okay, how dare her
come to this country national resources and then start writing
an editorial where you're supporting terrorism and of us. No,
there was a great move to get her out okay.
(15:15):
And I love like with Columbia. Columbia fired their president
as you know, they suddenly put money ahead of their
so called principles. You know, they were an incubator. Columbia,
like a lot of these universities of hate. Okay. Now,
the argument that some people use, like the last caller,
is oh, free speech. No, hate speech does not fall
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under free speech.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Well, I understand your point. The problem is this, I
might be sympathetic to the idea of moving people like
this out of the country. However, I think the way
in which you do things is important. And I just
think that the optics of this woman walking down the
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street alone and being confronted by six Ice agents again,
she did not look like a terrorist. I have not
read the article that she wrote. You may have, but
it would have to have really been more than just
simple simple empathy for that point of view. If she
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celebrated if in the article, I should probably have tried
to find the article, and maybe I will by this
time tomorrow find it. If she had celebrated what Hamas
did on October seventh, that's a different story. That's a
different story in my opinion. But she if she wrote
a relatively bland article, and maybe in the break I
(16:52):
will try to give it a quick read here. And
I may have been remiss and not reading it. I
just I haven't seen this should have been if the
White House was certain, Bob, it would have been nice
if they said, after they arrested her, we have arrested
phil in her name. The reason we have arrested her
is her visa was revoked. The reason we revoked her
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visa was because on this date, in this news article
she wrote quote whatever she said. I would feel differently
about it depending upon what they came up with. But
the only response from the White House so far is
that that she wrote an article which was a supportive
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of Hamas. But I wish it was. I wish they
would lay it out. What do they mean by supportive?
Do you know what I'm trying, what I'm trying to say, or.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
No, I think you have a point. But again, I'm
going to go write back to what I said. I'm
okay with what they did. Okay, we'll send a message
if you're in this country and or thousands or students
that have come here to use our resources, if they
hate America, like clearly she does, is she's pro Hamas,
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then okay, go to the guys the strip, go over indeed,
with the Palestinians, go where you know, go over there. Okay,
don't come to this country and be writing hate speech.
Don't be doing that. And I'm totally okay with how
they removed her. Okay, but then I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
But what I'm saying is if if she was writing
hate speech, I wish they had laid it out for me.
Uh and so I could see what the what the
hate speech was. I'm looking at an article here from
National Review, which is a conservative magazine. They write, the writer,
(18:50):
who I do not know, says, while I can see
the legality of the administration's move against Ramasha Ousturk, I
reject this morality imprudence. You're a Turkish graduate student at
Tufts University named Remisa auster Co wrote an op ed
for the school's newspaper complaining about the administration's failure to
respect student government demands for the university's divest from Israel.
(19:14):
Few seem to have read the piece. Rather than a
statement of anti Semitic ideology, it's a bland process complaint
about anti Semitic ideology, landed with Gratruda's quotes from James
Baldwin typically forget to put left wing juvenilia. In other words,
I'm going to read the article during the break here, Bob,
and I'll, you know, I will come back and and
(19:40):
see what what what I might come up with here? Okay,
this this article was written, was published on March twenty six,
twenty twenty four. So let me see what I come
Let me see what I come up with.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Okay, Okay. Clearly she's anti Israel. Okay, she was criticizing,
you know, for the ties of Israel. She's anti Israel, Okay,
which means she's pro terrorist. She's pro hamas well.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I don't know. That might be for me a bridge
too far. I'm very pro Israel. Okay, But let me
let me read the article, and I can read it,
and I'll come back on the other side and I'll
have comment on it. Okay, I will. I've found it
and we will read it, I promise you. Okay.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
Sounds good. All right, Thanks, thank you, Dan, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Bob, good night, talk to you. So good. All right,
all right, let me take a quick break here, we'll
break a little early. I'm going to talk to John
and Bob, and if you want to join us, feel free.
Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty, six, seven, nine,
three thirty. This article appeared in the Toughs Daily, which
is the student newspaper at Toughts. It was written co
(20:52):
written by four individuals. It was published March twenty sixth
a year ago. Twenty and twenty four. I'll read it
and I'll have some comments when we get back, and
i'd love to get your reaction to what we're talking about.
We'll be back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Okay, as I promised, I've just read the op ad
written by these four individuals, including Rumeisha Ostork, the woman
who was arrested last week near either on or near
the Toughs University campus. The first paragraph I'm going to
read to you of the is all I want to
(21:32):
focus on. This is only an op ed piece of three, four, five, six, seven,
eight paragraphs. It's not that long. On March fourth, the
Toughs Community Union sent it passed three out of four
resolutions demanding that the university acknowledged the Palestinian genocide, apologize
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for university President Saneil Kamara's statements to close its investments,
and divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel.
These resolutions are the product of meaningful debate by the Senate.
This is the tough University. It's not the United States Senate.
It's a bunch of students, okay, and represent some sincere
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effort to hold Israel accountable for clear violations of international law.
Now we're getting into an area that's problematic. Credible accusations
against Israel include accounts of deliberate starvation, I don't think
that's a pretty strong allegation, indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians,
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and plausible genocide. This is obviously a woman whose mind
is not in the right place. But there's a lot
of people on the left's minds or not in the
right place, and we can't kick them out of the
country for their minds not being the right place. I
wish my friend, I hope my friend Bob is listening.
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Credible accusations, first of all, credible by whom against Israel
include accounts of deliberate starvation, really indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians,
and plausible genocide. Well, we did have indiscriminate slaughter of
Israeli civilians that we know on October seventh. We did
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have plausible genocide allegations because I think the individuals who
went in and attacked the folks at the dance festival
and went into the Kobutz's area and killed older, old men,
old women as and infants. I think that was genocide.
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I think they went after them because they were Jewish.
I think that's pretty clear or Israeli. Israel then has
a right to defend themselves. This is stupid, editory, stupid
position taken by people who obviously may be antisemitic, certainly
are anti Israel. But I still don't think that once
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you give a visa to someone that you can rescind
the visa or revoke the visa because they've written a stupid,
tough daily editorial, in my opinion, and I don't think
that that's where the American people want the Trump administration
to focus, in my opinion, and I just think it's
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a bad look. So if you'd like to join the conversation,
you can agree or disagree. I've got a couple of
lines still open. Six one, seven, two, five, four ten
thirty or six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Let me go next to Bob and Rain and Bob
you were next on Nightside. Hi, Bob, how are you.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Good?
Speaker 6 (24:52):
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Dan going great? If I'm not mistaken, you're you're a
pretty solid supporter of President Trump? Correct?
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Yeah, I would, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Okay, so I am I right or wrong on this
issue in your opinion. I want to hear what you say.
Speaker 6 (25:09):
So I guess I don't like the look of, you know,
actually doing it in broad daylight. But I have to
say just I think that we should be removing these
people just as they were allowed into the country at
two o'clock in the morning while we were sleeping. And
(25:31):
I don't know if this is a particular case. But
while I don't think.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
She supposedly is a full bright scholar, I don't think
she's too bright anyway. But that's okay. That sort of
diminished the standards if she's a full bright scholar. This
article could have been written by a seventh grader. I mean,
it's there's nothing astonishing about this article. But go ahead.
I don't mean I did not well, I did mean
to interrupt. Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
Well, I think there might be more to it than
just that article. There you know these you know that
where you know that the Trump administration is looking at.
And also i'd like to say that you know how
quickly we forget uh nine to eleven uh, those folks
are simulated in the communities. They went to cookouts, they
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were in bowling leagues, I believe, and stuff like that,
and we know what happened there. And I don't believe
that the First Amendment applies to people on student visas.
And if they speak against our country or our allies
or whatever. And I think for any kind of you know,
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hate hate type message, they should be removed from the
country or Okay, I can.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Understand your position there. But having read the article, the
toughest part of the article, the one sentence that most
offends me as a supporter of Israel and as someone
who who insists on the survivor of Israel. Credible accusations
against Israel include acounts of deliberate starvation and indiscriminate slaughter
of Palestinine civilians and plausible Gemiside genocide. They they, they
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they sweet, They write with these these wide brushes and
they don't substantiate anything. And first of all, if there's
any any genocide that was involved, it was on October seventh,
the morning of October seventh, at the music festival, and
in the kibbutz.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Of course it was.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
But I just think that that that that the administration
before they pick someone up like this here, she's not
she's not should be the first group that that she's
that they're worried about. I would be worried about. Let's
get the terrorists out first, Let's get the criminals out second, uh,
and then we can start to worry about maybe some
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of the agitators within these these uh these campuses. Okay,
and the guy in in Colombia, he may have been
somebody who was a real leader of that demonstration. That's
different than somebody writing a juvenile op ed piece in
a college newspaper, in my opinion.
Speaker 6 (28:11):
But is that the only issue?
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well, I assum it was the only issue because the
administration hasn't said. Look, we've also found out that she
was going to whatever fill in the blank, going to
Hamas meetings, sending money to Hamas, whatever they got on her.
What if you go to a rest her and you're
going to kick her out of the country, and you're
going to revoke her visa, which have already done. Give
(28:34):
me some reasons, give me some reasons. Make your point.
It's not a good look. You said it, I've said it.
And so what happens is that undercuts the public support
for what the Trump administration is rightfully doing.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
I agree with that fair enough.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
All right, Bob, appreciate your call very much. Thank you much.
Skip Rowling here got John in Boston. John, you might
wrap us for the night, Go ahead, John.
Speaker 5 (29:00):
I just don't think it was a good look for
that woman to be supporting Hamas with that letter. Listening
to an intel expert, Deep Sarah Adams, she's well known,
uh knows about terrorism, and she says right now is
one thousand terrorists here in this country right now, and
they need facilitators and sympathizers to support them. That's how
they get around, that's how they're able to function in
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this country. And Hamas stopped at American hostage American hostages
in Israel who are captured, and Mamas is directly connected
to the Muslim Brotherhood, who was connected to Arafat, who
is connected to Otto Gazzini hit his favorite commando. And
it's like this woman is not you know, she's standing.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
Up for Hamas.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
They are killers.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
In the article, by the way, the article that I've
just read in its entirety, because it's not that long,
never mentions Hamas.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Well. The thing is Dan, she's speaking out for the group.
And it's interesting that the FBI is seriously because they
talked about nothing. Look, well, the FBI showed up to
that seventy five year oud grandmother in Kingston, mass and
blackass ups to arrest her because she was in an
abortion play playing she wasn't blocking terrances, and no one
said a word. Very little was said about that. They
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had no problem showing up in black as SUVs to
arrest her and her sister spent a year and a
half in jail, and she was just recently pardoned by
President Trump and all of a sudden, this woman who's.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
No But let me ask you, if does it justify
the excesses of the Biden administration by matching them with
excesses by the Trump administration? Is that a good? Look?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Yeah? I just don't think it's excessive in light of
Boston is a sanctuary city. We the nine to eleven
guys who are here, the Boston Marathon, bambers are here.
A city's been attacked. We're in a very dangerous time
right now, and we don't need people here being sympathetic
to groups that are they're terrorists or very to our country.
(31:01):
We're our scheduls in grave danger.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Right But look, I understand that I understand that John.
I'm just saying is I would like to spend whatever
resources we have to spend if you want to go
after this woman who wrote an op ed piece in
the who probably was read by five thousand people max.
Five thousand and one, now that I've read it, it
just you're you're spending important political capital. Get the terrorists out,
(31:28):
get the gang members out, get them, get the convicted
criminals out, Let the self deportation go. Then you can
focus on these other ones. In my opinion, as always,
I'm running out of time, so I gotta let you run.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
I gotta let you money from all right, thanks much,
talk to you soon.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
All right, done for the night, Rob Brooks, great job,
I'm reade, a great job. To the calls. We have
some good calls tonight. We'll have We'll have them. Jim
Roosevelt on tomorrow night, will continue our social security conversation.
I'll end us always, all dogs, all cats, all pets
go to heaven. That's my pell. Charlie Ray, who passed
fifteen years ago in February, that's where all your pets
are who have passed. They loved you and you love them.
I do believe you'll see them again. I'll see you
(32:07):
in April, every one. In about two minutes, it will
be April. We're out of March almost in April. Have
a great Tuesday everyone, see tomorrow night. I'll see you
on Facebook in about two minutes
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