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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's night Side, Dan Ray. I'm bas Boston News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thank you very much. Erry Small. I am Dan Ray,
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We will talk later on tonight, beginning at nine o'clock
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it last night, however, when we talked with the representative
of Triple A, and we'll get to that. Also, we're
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Trump and Harvard University. Lots on the line, and now
as a third person in the ring, we had the
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probably until midnight, depending upon what you'd like to do.
But first off, we are going to go to tonight's
on Night Side News Update, and we are going to
start off this evening with Lisa Krassner. She's the executive
director of the Conquered Museum, and I suspect Lisa's going
to be pretty busy up at the Concord Museum between
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now and between now and about a week from now.
How are you this evening?
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Thank you so much, Dan for having me doing great.
We are firing in all cylinders here and Conquered.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
It's a busy time, so excited.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yes, how long have you been the executive director? Of
the Concord Museum. I mean, I hope you haven't been
just thrown into this job like the middle of last week.
How long you've been up there.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh, I've been the director of the Conquered Museum for
two and a half years. I've worked in museums now
for twenty six years. So I'm ready for the crowds.
And we like to think of this as you know,
once in a generation opportunity. Every fifty years, you get
to really kind of commemorate and celebrate this moment.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So yeah, most people think of most people think of
generations in the context of a couple of decades, but
this is truly this might be once at about two
and a half generations in reality here so exactly. But
we were just ranked the number one best small town
museum by US today, which is perfect timing as a
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matter of fact. And you are going to have a
free community day, I guess, on the big day itself,
April nineteenth. So let's chat about that a little bit
because I'm sure people are going to want to know
about it. It's going to be a lot of activity
up in your area. The nineteenth, we remind people is Saturday.
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It's not the day of the Boston Marathon, although that
is technically Patriots Day, but it is the night of
the eighteenth and the day of the nineteenth, which celebrates
things like Paul Revere's ride in the Battle of Lexington
and conquered. So tell us what's going to be going
on at the museum.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Sure, we will be celebrating Patriots Day with Freed Mischional
Day will be open from nine to five. We'll have
all of our galleries open where people can see over
two hundred revolutionary war objects firsthand. I witness objects including
the famous uh polar veer lantern that was the signal
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lantern for the midnight ride. And we also have a
new special exhibition open called Whose Revolution that really speaks
to what it was like to live through revolution and
center the story around women and children and the indigenous
community that was here and conquered, as well as freedom
and slave black. So I'm telling a much more inclusive story.
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So Freed mission all day.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, then, aren't forgotten in all of this? Oh no, no, no,
but the man played a kind of a key role
in this. These events in those couple of days.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So are April nineteen seventeen, seventy five galleries all on
our second floor, where there's, like I said, a couple
of hundred of revolutionary war objects, tells the story of
the minute Men in great detail from all the towns
that gathered and conquered and battled through the battle through
the battle road. We'll also that day be welcoming the
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Bilbrica Colonial minute Man, so we'll have a very family
friendly encampment of revolutionary living history encampment all day. So
they'll be out there drilling with muskets and cooking over
an open fire pit and demonstrating colonial crafts, all to
be doing leatherwork and broom making and making metal castings
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of musketballs and things like that. So it'll be a
fun days really.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
That to me is probably one of the most interesting
aspects of the day that I've read up on this
day of activity. Is that the sort of day where
those again they're portrayers, they're.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
People, renactors, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Identities, Okay, are they accessible to people to you know,
like other museums where they can be talked with And
I'm not sure if they stay in there in their
eighteenth century mode. They certainly would be in their eighteenth
century Garb tell us about that, will people have a
chance to interact with them, and will they interact as
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you know Joe Smith from twenty twenty five, who's or
will they take on roles of individuals from that era.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Well, they definitely try to capture the spirit of the era,
but they are there to be educators and to share
living history, and they very much want to interact and
be in conversation with visitors. So absolutely, I think they
try to be very accessible and open, and the idea
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is to learn about what life was like in colonial times.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
So if you go there, either as an individual or
with a couple, or a family or an extended family,
you'll really have some great opportunities to interact with history
from two hundred and fifty years ago. That sounds to
me like an amazing day.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Cool family activities and crafts for the day. Also going
into school vacation week from April twenty first of the
twenty seven, so after Saturday, we'll have a wonderful week
of school of educational programs for families, and then we're
gonna sort of the day will proceed. We'll have a
wonderful forum that evening with Doris Karns Goodwin, the you know,
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really such a significant historian in our culture. And she'll
be in conversation with Rosy Rios, the chair of America
to fifty. So we'll have a forum that evening that'll
be live streams and we'll have a concert afterwards out
on our lawn. So very full day, very full day.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Let's we've talked about it, We've given people a good
sense of it. How what if we do this? What
is the best way people can get to your website
in sometime tomorrow or Friday, sit down and plan their
interaction with you folks on Friday or Saturday. What's the website?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
The website is Conquered Museum dot org, so definitely check
out our website. We have a visit page. We also
have a to fiftieth page as well, full of activities
for the day and then also getting out here. We
encourage people to take public transportation if they could take
the train, and then they'll also be parking in areas
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around Conquered and then shuttle buses taking people into town
because the center of town will be pedestrian only in bicycles,
so there'll be no cars in the center of town.
So we encourage people to check out our website Conquered
Museum dot org, but also the Conquered Town website too
has more information in terms of maps and parking as well.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
The only thing that I can say is thank goodness
that the Minutemen on the night of the battle head
horses and not bicycles through a lot of pons, and
I hope there's some horses there too. Thanks so much, Lisa.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
So much.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
We look forward to celebration and a wonderful weekend. I
really I'm envious of everyone who's going to have an
opportunity to get out there. This is as close as
I'm going to come to it. But just enjoy the
heck out of the weekend because it'll be another fifty
years before you, or perhaps the successor we'll oversee the
three hundredth anniversary. Congratulations, Lisa, appreciate it so thank.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
You so very much. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
All Right, we get back on to talk about an
award winning documentary entitled Unspoken, Would You Hide Me? It's
the story of seven Jewish siblings who survived the Holocaust
with the help of German strangers. So this is going
to be an emotional conversation, right after the break. My
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Speaker 1 (10:52):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm WBZ, Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Would like to welcome Marcie Bracken She is the co
founder of Pink Cheer Storytellers Magazine, but she's here to
talk about a film called Unbroken, Would You Hide Me? So,
first of all, Marcy, let's create and establish what is
the relationship between the magazine that you co founded, Pink
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Chair Storytellers Magazine and this what looks to me like
an incredible film, Unbroken, Would You Hide Me? A Holocaust documentary?
Can you what's the relationship between the two?
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Yeah? Well, first, thank you so much for having me on.
I appreciate it. Pink Chair Storytellers Magazine is a collection
of women's stories, so all told by the women themselves,
first person. And back in twenty twenty two, we had
a conversation with Beth Lane, who is the filmmaker, production
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and director originator of the film Unbroken, and she was
originally just in production, she was filming, she was doing
her research, and we're super excited that we've been able
to come full circle with her and now the film
is ready, it's out, it's being screened across the country
at all different film festivals, award winning, and we're excited
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that through us and Pink care Storyteller's Magazine were able
to bring it here to Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Let's talk about the film. It is entitled Unbroken, Would
You Hide Me? It's a Holocaust documentary. As I understand
the story of seven Jewish siblings who somehow survived the
Holocaust and with the help I guess of what we're
called at the time, righteous gentiles German strangers, they were
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able to escape. They survived the Holocaust. Tell us about
tell us a little bit about the film, and also,
I know, so it's going to be available. I think
I have a if I'm not mistaken, I have some
information as to where it's going to be shown. But you,
why don't you just tell us about it? First of all?
Speaker 5 (13:09):
Okay, Yeah, So Beth Lane grew up. Her mother was adopted,
and that was also that was something that was known
through time. As Beth's mother aged, I guess she had
a family member who passed away, and that family member
was very open about their history, their past, and their story.
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And when that family member passed away, her mother decided
that she was ready to go back to Germany, where
she was born and where she was raised and revisit
her story. So Beth's family took a large family vacation.
They all got together. They all went to Germany and
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they went back to the small town and as part
of their tour, they arranged to meet the town historian,
and that town was historian actually decided to surprise them
and connected that family with the grandson of the schmidt
couple who had hidden these seven children. So it was
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this really powerful moment. So the grandson of the Schmidtz
was there and met the family, a lot of tears,
a lot of emotion, and it suddenly brought the world
to a much smaller place.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
What was the year of the reunion? What was the
year of the reunion?
Speaker 5 (14:39):
The reunion was in I believe twenty and.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Fifteen, Okay, so everyone at that point had I believed
had grown old because if they were children, you know
in Germany, you know when Hitler was in power, Yeah,
probably were well into the seventies or beyond when they
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went back.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Am I correct this absolutely?
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Absolutely? So forty plus years later, this reunion happens. They
all go back and it's a powerful moment and the children,
the seven children, what had happened was is their mother
was taken from them and brought to Auschwitz, and the
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seven children were told to stay together, which they did
this couple, the Schmidts, went into town apparently, put all
seven children in the back of their truck, drove them
out to a suburban town, suburban farm area, and hid
them in the laundry room for two years.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It almost sounds like that, you know, in some ways.
Obviously not the same, but very similar to the experience
that Anne Frank had, you know before, before she was discovered.
I was a television reporter and reported from Auschwitz in
nineteen eighty six, so I have a pretty good understanding
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of what they went through. It looks to me as
if it's one brother and six sisters from the So
it's amazing, and they stayed together. How did they get
out of Germany? Or did they waited out until the
war ended?
Speaker 5 (16:35):
So they eventually got out of Germany with their father,
who they were still in contact with in some way.
Their father instructed them to claim themselves as orphans, which
was very difficult for them because they had been told
to always stick together. Sure, but when they declared themselves orphans,
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they were then brought to the United States, into the
Chicago area, and all seven ended up being adopted out
to different families, but they were separated and It wasn't
until this film came about that Beth was able to
bring the remaining siblings back together to be reunited.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Well, what an amazing story. So they came to the
United States and I guess grew up here. Were they
able to maintain contact with one another? Or did they
just go They did not say they separate ways?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, okay, well they went through ways.
Speaker 5 (17:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
This is such a beautiful film. It's good. It's going
to be shown in Boston at the Pate or other
in Hingham at Patriots Cinema on April twenty ninth, And
I'm just checking my calendar to make sure April twenty
ninth is a Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (17:54):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Is that the only showing here in greater Boston? Now?
Speaker 5 (18:00):
Yes, that is the only showing in the Boston area
right now. Beth has really granted us the honor of
coming back to the Boston area to work with Pinkhare
Storyteller's Magazine, to come full circle with us and do
this viewing special for us. Well, I personally, let.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Me ask you this, if if there are other theaters
that would be interested in showing the film, how could
they contact you? Because I'm sure you could. You could
potentially expedite that, Marcy, how could My guest is Marcy Bracken,
the co founder of Pink Cheer Storytellers magazine. Is there
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a website that you could direct people to if you
know they they were owned the theater and they wanted
to show this, you know film.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Absolutely, so we are. Our website is Pink Chair Storytellers
dot com. Very simple. My email dress is Marcie which
is m A Rci at Pink Chair storytellers dot com.
And also the Weber Family Arts Foundation that is the
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organization that's helping Beth get this film out, helping her
to have made the film. But what's going to be
special about this viewing is that Beth will be there
on site at the movie and we will be doing
a question and answer with her, okay after the viewing
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of the movie.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
The April twenty ninth at the Hingham Theater. So yeah,
that's the one place that you know you can go
and see this wonderful story, a horrible set of circumstances,
but a heartwarming story of seven siblings somehow stay together
across some space and time. Just on believe, Marcy, I
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appreciate your time tonight. You're a wonderful guest.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
You're welcome. Marcy Bracken talking about the new film Unspoken,
Would you hide me when we get back? Going to
talk about something a little more upbeat. I guess it's
a thirteenth annual Down Home up Here Blues Grass Festival,
Bluegrass Festival. I'm gonna be talking with Maxfield Anderson, who's
a musician. Get you all the details for that right
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after the news at the bottom of the hour on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Want to welcome Maxfield Anderson, who is a musician. He's
performing at the thirteenth annual Down Home up Here Bluegrass
and Old Time Festival on Patriots Day weekend. That is
a long title for an event. Maxwell, Welcome to Massachusetts.
(20:54):
I'm assuming you're not native to the area. Maybe I'm
wrong on that. Where you're from Maxfield?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Maxfield, Hey, it's it's great to be here. Thank you
all for having me on. I am I've been living
in Boston for the last decade or so. I actually
grew up in Oklahoma, So yeah, not native to the.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Area, and you haven't got rid of the U all
reference whereabouts in Oklahoma.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
I grew up in Tulsa.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
I know Tulsa pretty well. Yeah. I had a great
friend of mine who was born in a little town
outside of Tulsa called Big Cabin, Oklahoma.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
I have I have been there.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:27):
If you're in Alta, you got to go to the
Bob Dylan Archives and the Woody Guthrie Archives. They're right
next door to one another downtown.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
That is in what that's in Tulsa? Or is that
in Big Cabin.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
That's in Tulsa.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
That's in Tulsa. And also Chelsea. We have Chelsea here
in Massachusetts, but you've got a Chelsea in Oklahoma, the
Chelsea Dragons, if I'm not mistaken. Buddy of mine played
played baseball down there and when went onto the major leagues.
But we'll save that for another time. Let's talk music.
Let's talk music. So we got this thirteenth annual downholl
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Home up here Bluegrass Old Time Festival, and this is
gonna be over at Club Passieme in Cambridge. Is that
it a little different from Oklahoma? Over in Cambridge?
Speaker 6 (22:11):
It is a little different. Yeah, Still, you know, still
getting that twangy music. Still here in the fiddles play.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:18):
The Down Home up Here Festival is a it's a
really wonderful thing. Passing does it every single year. It's
always that, you know, usually the third weekend in April,
and it's a it's a great chance for people to
hear the amazing live, local bluegrass and old time music
that we have in Boston. You know, a lot of
folks don't immediately think of Boston as a hub of
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American roots music, of bluegrass an old time, but there's
so much of that music here, you know, a big
part thanks to to Berkeley and their American Roots music program,
but also places like Passing that you know, give the
younger artists a platform to hone their craft and to
gain fans and to have really cool local festivals to play.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Now, Maxfield, you go by Max and Maxfield.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
Well, professionally I go by Maxfield, but you can call
me whatever you're comfortable with. Well, Max, what are your
friends on the internet?
Speaker 2 (23:13):
What do your friends call you? Max or Maxfield?
Speaker 6 (23:17):
It just depends.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
It depends they don't call you, it depends they call
you Max Maxfield. Come on, no, okay, Well I'm gonna
call you max. Okay, kid, that's quicker if you don't
mind that. Great. So you're live it up here for
ten years. Uh, and you're making a livelihood up here
as a guy from Tulsa, Oklahoma. Uh as a musician.
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I assume am I correct on that? Yes? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:42):
Yes, So everything I do is music related. I'm a
sound engineer at passing, I teach as I perform excellent.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Well, you know we have a reputation up here in
Massachusetts of not being the friendliest people in the world.
I'm sure you've probably heard about that. I hope you've
been welcomed with open arms. Is that true? You guys
are all right, We're okay, all right, Okay, No.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
No, I I I love it up here. I've been
here for ten years. You know I would have I
would have left sooner if you guys were mean.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
So, no, you wouldn't. You wouldn't have stayed if we
were mean. I'm with you on that. So what's your what?
What is? What do you? What's the instrument or instruments
that that that you play?
Speaker 6 (24:23):
Yeah, so I am a I'm a multi instrumentalist. My
main instrument is the mandolin. For any listeners who don't
know what the mandolin is or are new to roots music.
The mandolin is basically a tiny guitar and it has
the same strings as a violin or a fiddle, and
you play it like a guitar.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Is that an instrument that arrived here from Spain?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
You know?
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I believe Italy is where they originated in Spain?
Speaker 2 (24:51):
You know they're both throwing countries in Europe, contail one
from the other.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Match totally, totally, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
But wou tell you that that Wasn't you know that
that's an instrument out of Europe? Okay, Spain, Italy? That's great?
What else? What other instrument do you play?
Speaker 1 (25:08):
So?
Speaker 6 (25:09):
I played guitar, banjo, and fiddle, and I'll be playing
I think all four of those. Yeah, I'll be playing
all four of those on Sunday. Wow, that's not at
the same time, of course, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
I get that. I get that. Yeah, I don'tally get that.
I like your sense of humor. It's kind of similar
to mine. So, uh, this is an annual event, thirteenth annual.
You've been involved in some of these, I assume of
the thirteenth. This is not your first rodeo right, I
have been.
Speaker 6 (25:37):
I think the first one I did was in twenty eighteen.
I was playing with a bluegrass band called Pretty Sarah.
I did it during the pandemic. That was it. That
was an interesting year. Live everybody live streaming from home.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
You know.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
They kept it going. They just they renamed it down
Home at Home.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yep, Okay, that's good, that's right.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
And every year.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Is it just one night max or is it every
night of the weekend?
Speaker 6 (26:09):
So it is Saturday and Sunday night from I believe
like four to eleven pm both nights. You've got music,
a new band every hour. And then Monday. Actually, this
is something they started a couple of years ago. They
open up the club. It's not a traditional show like
you're used to seeing at club passing. They move all
the tables to the side and they have folk leading
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jam sessions. So if you play bluegrass, or if you
play old time music, or if you just want to
come out and listen, the club is kind of like
an open jam space on Monday to cap the festival
off excellent.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I'm looking at the schedule here. It looks like April nineteenth,
which I believe is Saturday. If my calendar is correct,
and it probably is. The first show starts at one o'clock.
That's great. Yeah, three finger Banjo Workshop.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
And yeah, so the first two shows that you see
on that calendar there, the one thirty and the one
and two thirty slots, those are both workshops. So shows
will start at four. But before that we've got Dunger Workshop,
Fiddle doughbro and it's like another banjo workshop.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, the claw hymn of banjo workshop. I think of
a clawhammer as a tool. But that's okay, whatever you play.
And so both days, the nineteenth and the twentieth, the
show's four to ten. The nickets look pretty pretty reasonable here,
I mean really reasonable. And then on Monday you got
to show Monday Jams from seven to nine thirty. So
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it's a whole bunch of I could read all of
these names, and I'm sure you know, you know all
of them are played with all of them, but some
of the groups all she wrote Berkeley twenty first century
String Band, Chris Stry, Dumpster Debbie. I'd like to hear
Dumpster Debbie. That's a great name. Evan Murphy, great band,
Liz List Hound and Handler, Joanna Whack Lucy Nelligan, Maxfield
(28:01):
and Friends. That's gonna be you Makesfield and Friends and Enemies.
That's good.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Yeah, you get to decide yourself and you can vote
at the end. Okay, he's a friend who's the enemy?
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Okay? Uh, Mika, Joan and Lily and Chase, Noah Fowler,
Cecilia and the Talking Hearts, as well as Trevor Trevan Nelson.
Are those all local bands? By the way, I'm sure
you know all of them. Are they all local people?
Are you bringing them in from different places?
Speaker 6 (28:29):
I believe that just about everybody on here is local
or at least regional. I think Joanna maybe lives in
New York, Noah maybe lives in Pennsylvania or Nashville. But
otherwise everybody, everybody's from around here. Greg List, who's playing
at six pm on Saturday, is a He is the
Berkeley banjo professor. You actually might have seen him if
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you watch show The Last of Us as Dan Crooked
still was just on the last episode and this week,
and you can catch him at passing and.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
I see the dumpster Debbie, who has the best name
of everybody, Dumpster Debbie. At nine o'clock on Saturday, Maxfield,
we'll get back to formalities now. I enjoyed this conversation.
Thank you so much. Always nice to meet someone from
northeast Oklahoma. And I probably won't be there over this
week and it's got a few other things to do,
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but I'm looking forward to seeing your player over at club.
I have been to Club Passing before and so I'm
sure i'll be back at some point. Thanks Max, appreciate
your time. Okay, if folks give us a website where
they can get information, we always going to do a
website here. What's the best way.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Absolutely so.
Speaker 6 (29:36):
The website is passing dot org. That's passim dot org.
And for those of you out there who can't make
it or maybe you're not local, Club Passing live streams
every single show that they do. So if you want
to catch the festival or any other show and you're
not in town, you can live stream all those shows
on your computer.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
So loves that. Yeah, sounds great. Thank you, Max. I
appreciate it very We'll talk again, I hope sometimes. Thank
you so much. And again I'm a little belated here,
but welcome to Boston. Welcome to Boston and Cambridge. Okay,
thanks Mackill.
Speaker 6 (30:09):
I feel very welcome. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
All right, okay, will we get back. We're going to
talk about the cicadas. No, that is not a blues band.
They stop by about once every seventeen years and they
make quite a racket. We will explain. The buzz is
back coming back here on night Side in just a
minute or two. Stay there, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
This one will be fun, everybody. The cicadas are coming
back to Massachusetts. Here's what we know, and we're brewed
fourteen will emerge. I have no idea what BREWD fourteen is,
but I'll tell you who will know what it is.
It's Natasha Wright, the technical director and etymologist at Brahmin
Termite and Test Elimination. Natasha, welcome to Night Side. I
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need to know everything about these cicadas. I know a
little bit about them, but.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
You will tell you what I know.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Oh yeah, I'm sure we could. It would take two hours.
Sounds to me like probably. Yeah. Tell us these little
devils only come around what once every seventeen years or something.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
So there's seven species of what we call periodical cicadas.
They have very long life cycles. There's a thirteen year
and seventeen years. It depends on what species. So we
are blessed this year, so to have a seventeen year
brood coming out. It's called brood fourteen. There are fifteen
total that are recognized, and it reaches into Massachusetts just
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a little bit, so if you're in western Cape Cod
you might get to see them this year.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Okay, So let's first of all, you know a lot
about this. What do you mean when you say brood fourteen?
That sounds to me like the name of a pope
from the Middle Ages. Could you imagine this pope Brood
the fourteenth?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Yes, absolutely, So how do.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
You get brood fourteen? I guess none of us can
become a member of brood fourteen.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Right, not unless we're a periodical cicada, I guess yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Okay, So a.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Brood is like a large grouping. It can extend multiple states,
and they all are They all develop at the same time,
and they all emerge at the same time. So I
don't know how they do it. They clearly have some
kind of awesome biological clock. That's seventeen years later pretty
much in the same months on the same day. Most
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of them are emerging together. That so they're synchronized emergence.
That is really what makes a brood. And there's fifteen
different broods that emerge at different times and within different territories.
Does that kind of makes sense?
Speaker 2 (32:49):
It does. So this this brood was hatched seventeen years ago, correct,
r Okay, and it's been undergrod living off I guess
roots of plants and trees. Yeah, they have.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
They have like little beak like mouthparts and they stab
into the roots of plants and they suck the juices
out of them. And they exist in this immature stage
for seventeen years, sucking on juices, just waiting for the
right moment.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Okay, now did below earth? How far are they below?
Are they like a mile below, a mile? Hundred yards? Oh?
Speaker 4 (33:33):
No, a couple couple inches, maybe a couple of feet.
It really depends on I guess what year of that development.
But they're not very deep. Soil is pretty average.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
So in theory, you could, in theory try to dig
them up, right, you could? Could?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
You could?
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I don't know if anybody has, but you could.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, well, I give a strange mind. That's why I
would think of something like that. So anyway, so these
little little critters, can I call them critters technically? Is
that an atmology? It's critters, okay, gritters that they have antennae.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
By the way, they do, right, they do they do?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Okay, I've seen them before, And they kind of like
these buggy eyes right.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yes, they're they're kind of chunky, they're black. They have
red demonic looking eyes, but they're not dangerous to humans.
And they kind of have these neat orange accents on
the wings.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, and they're not the most they're not as say,
beautiful as a butterfly.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
No, the front of their face almost looks like a
cargrill if you look at it.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Yeah, okay, maybe a cargrill that had been in an accident.
But anyway, so somehow, some way they emerge. And how
long once they emerge. Now they've been in the making
here for seventeen years. That's a heck of a gestation
period they emerge, and how long they make a lot
of noise. The males make a lot of noise, typical males.
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You know, empty barrel makes the greatest noise. Okay, they
may a lot of noise. The ladies cicadas don't make
a lot of noise, and they munch and crunch and
and and they hang around. How long are they above
ground before they pass on?
Speaker 4 (35:14):
About a month or a month and a half, So
really not that long. You spent most of your time
as a juvenile, come out, make a bunch of racket
mate lay eggs die very quickly.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Yeah, And so when they die, they don't have like
funeral services, so the other little cicadas put them in graves.
They're just dead on the ground. And one of the
things that I understand, it's pretty dangerous for particularly you know, pets,
particularly dogs to go out and think that they're found
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a buffet on the ground, you know, four to.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Six years necessarily dangerous. I guess that's maybe just gross, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Right right, But I'm saying if you my understanding is
that that can cause quite a problem with dog with
canine digestive systems without getting yeah, well expert here, So
I've done I've done a little bit of work and
that kind of caught my eye. So I just want
to mention to people that have all.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Of the s articles that you could cook them.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Well, there is some there are some weird people out
there who will cook anything. Trust me on that.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Okay, I'm told that they taste like chicken. Now that
I'm not sure. I've tried everything.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Been somewhere when someone you'll be at a restaurant and
they'll have rattle snak and they'll say, oh, why don't
you try it? And you're gonna you and I would,
probably being of above average intelligence, would say I'm not
interested in any rattle sneak. And someone saying it tastes
like chicken. Everything tastes like chicken, They try to because
they want you to try it, you know. Anyway, I'm
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joking with it. I'm just just having some fun. So
this group won't be any their successors, their progeny will
not be around for another seventeen years, and they'll come out,
as you said, around the same time, late May early June,
like clockwork.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Like clockwork, usually it's when the soil reaches sixty four
degrees fahrenheit. It's a very particular temperature, which means the
above ground temperatures are somewhere between seventy and eighty degrees
fahrenheit for that soil to reach that temperature, followed by
a nice rain, and that's when they come.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
Out every year. There's in different parts of the country
they will material I assume this is not the only
place that you said that they're endemic to a bunch
of areas, right, correct.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Brood fourteen is actually going to be emerging in twelve states.
They're not all going to have heavy emergents, but twelve states,
so each brood can be through many many states these things.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
It's amazing you scientists that figured this thing out. But
are there the dudes in other areas of the country?
Number one? And what about other parts of the hemisphere
or the world. Are these endemic only to the United States?
Speaker 4 (38:15):
I believe Magisicata, which is the big genus of these things,
is mainly North American. There's other groups and other parts
of the world that have different cycles. I think I
read about a four year and an eight year But
for the most part, cicadas have very long developmental cycles.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Yeah, seventeen years, as it would do it for me.
I don't want to see them any more often than
seventeen years, to be early honest with you. I've seen
videos on these and when you see the videos that documentaries,
they can be pretty frightening. That's all about I know
they're there. They're there. Are they invasive into people's homes
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or will they always just stay outside?
Speaker 4 (38:57):
I've not known them to be a problem inside. I
suppose that there's a million outside. Is there a possibility
if you leave your door open one could get inside?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
Right?
Speaker 4 (39:04):
But otherwise it's not.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Like a horror movie, is what you're telling.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
I think people imagine it being like a cicade apocalypse
or something, but it's it's not going to be that bad.
It's going to last about a month. You can deal
with a hundred decibel screaming of males trying to lure females.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well, I think I read. I actually did my homework
on this, which you know because I'm interested in it.
I guess one hundred decibels is like a hair dryer, right,
So we're not talking about you're going to have to
close your windows and put on ear muffs and huddle
in the basement. I mean you'll hear them.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
I the decibels too. I reader one hundred to one
hundred and twenty decibels. It's about a fire alarm, so
it can be a round of fire alarms, so if
you're close to them, obviously the further away, the less intense.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
It is, hopefully hopefully well. Look, I appreciate this, Natasha.
That's really great. And if anybody wants to get in
touch with you, how can they get in touch with
with you? For more information.
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Braman Pest dot com. You can contact us by email
or phone and I can answer any questions you have.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Brayman br A m A n. Pest all one word
dot com. Natasha, thank you very much. I enjoyed the
conversation and I love your sense of humor. It's a
little understated, but it's very nice. Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
You're very welcome. All right, that takes care of the
eight o'clock hour. We have three hours left to go.
And on the other side, have you tried to get
an appointment at the Massachusetts Registery of Motive Vehicles or
I assume at any Registry of Motive Vehicles or Department
of Motive Vehicles, whatever it's called in your community. The deadline,
the real deadline, This is the real deadline for the
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real ID is really coming and it's coming at you quickly,
and I'll explain it all answer questions I have. I
have all the answers to all your questions. And this
is serious. Believe me, it is serious, and I'll explain
right after to the nine o'clock news