May 13, 2025 • 40 mins
The Qatari royal family is preparing to give the Trump Administration a Boeing 747-8 jumbo jet, to be used as Air Force One in Trump's second term before being donated to his presidential library. Some are taking aim with that, including some Trump supporters. Do you take aim with the gifted Boeing 747 jet?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm deell you easy
Boston's new video.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, it is thank for miss Dan Watkins. It's
I got eleven o eight. I hope I'm pretty close
on that one. We're talking about Donald Trump's airplane. Uh yeah,
he he says that he might accept an airplane. Nothing's
finally yet, But I just think it's a fascinating issue
and a fascinating topic. It's also an issue in which
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there seems to be a split amongst his supporters. So
which makes me think that a couple of our callers
in the first hour of the ten o'clock hour, who
suggested that this deal might not come to fruition, might
be right. In the meantime, let's get back to the calls.
We got one line available at six, one, seven, nine thirty.
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Gotta go to Jerry in Michigan. Hey, Jerry in Michigan,
Welcome back to Nightside. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'm all right, Dan, I got a little bit of
a different spin on that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Excellent.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I don't know if that's an air bus or uh
Boeing plane. I think was Obama or Biden had already
ordered like replacements for Air Force one and I think
Trump canceled that order in his first term. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
No, I don't think so. I think that I think
that the replacements.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Had been ordered the the the Air Force, the Air
Force ones that currently are in use, and apparently both
of them have periodic need to get in the shop
and get taken care of date back to President Reagan,
so they're inaccessive.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I was pretty sure they one of the presidents had
some on order and somebody canceled them because I.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Think that, and I'm going to stay to be corrected,
and I'm going to look it up if if, and
correct myself if necessary. But mine standing is that Donald
Trump had issued some orders for these planes, and then
along came COVID, and I think that the planes. In
a matter of fact, let me see if I can
find this information and we can share it right here.
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I think that the planes, the replacement Air Force ones,
the new Air Force ones are still on are not
expected to be delivered until twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah. Yeah, anyways, Really, what I wanted to bring up
was is that they just can't buy one plane there.
I believe they've got to have three, so they don't
deal with one. They've got three out there on the tarmac,
and when whoever's coming out to go, it's what's behind
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door number one or number two or number three? They don't.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, let me if I can, Jerry, I've just found
that this is in the Washington Post, and I think
I think I'm correct, but I'd like to read it
to you. During Trump's first term, which would have been
between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty one, Boeing agreed to
a fixed price three point nine billion dollar contract to
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deliver two modified Boeing seven forty seven airliners that would
take on the Air Force one Moniker when the president
is on board. But delivery for the first of the
two jets is not expected until at least twenty and
twenty seven, and Boeing has incurred billions of dollars in
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cost overruns that it has had to absorb that. I
don't understand why why we would have to pay three
point nine billion dollars for two planes.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, they're very special planes. Years and years ago, I'm
I'm going to be seventy five on my next birthday, Okay,
But back when I was in college, I used to
work with the father of one of the mechanics that
was on the on the team, the mechanic team for
the Air Force one down there, and he knew that
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there was three of them, and they never knew which
one one they were going to take for security reasons,
you know, just in case somebody tried to pull a
fast one.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But as a matter of fact, let me just reading
from this article in the Washington Post. It says the
contract for the new Air Force one jets signed with
Boeing during the first Trump administration included a number of
requirements that were quote gold plated, the former senior defense
official said, noting significant requirements for electrical power, refrigeration units,
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and in flight medical capabilities. The program also calls for
a four engine designed to increase redundancy if there are
mechanical failures. I guess that's why we cost about two
billion dollars apiece.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, I remember hearing that that they were going to
have extra extra engines on them rather than the two,
like the seven thirty sevens and fifty sevens and seven
eighty whatever they are. I've lost tract of all their numbers,
but they usually hanging one engine on each wing. But
I'd heard that they were going to go to a
four engines. By the way, I know this is way off,
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But I wrote a book a couple of years ago,
and one of my chapters in my book was my
experience in flying I left Milwaukee. I used to fly
to Milwaukee to Detroit in my own plane, and on
one trip back home, I lost my engine eleven thousand
feet right over the middle of Lake Michigan. And I'm
still here.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
So you lost Is it a single engine plane?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I got eleven thousand feet. What did you do? Just
try to get it over? What you do?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah? Oh yeah, I glided in. I found I slowed up.
I usually cruise about one hundred and seventy. If i'd
slow up to about one hundred and thirty, that gave
me my least amount of fall out of the air.
That's a there's a chart in the in the manual,
and I used to keep those charts on the ceiling
of my plane and just in case I needed them.
And I had it there. But I had thirty three
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minutes with God and and we made it into Mischigan.
So but wow, yeah, that's on the west side of
Michigan there, east side of the lake. But I worked
Chicago and Cleveland and Lansing and two centers and then
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then two other airports. They all wanted me to declare
an emergency, and I said no because it doesn't change
a thing.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Good for you, Jerry. I'm glad you made it because
if you had, you wouldn't have called tonight.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Hey, thank you so much, Jerry. Appreciate your time. Appreciate
you you you being such a loyal listener out there
and call more often. Okay, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, I had I just I had a personal tragedy
here the first of January. I haven't been able to call.
I would have been on some some more of your calls,
but I've had a very very rough early start of
the year here, and I'm just getting myself straightened out.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Okay, well, long be able to be more.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, I hope that you know. I'm not going to
ask you what your wife?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
My wife? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
How long were you married? A long time?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Forty six forty six years?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, that's a hell of a run.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, yep, yep. And I'm still having in trouble, but
I'm getting out over it. So thank you for being
there yourself as well.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, we're there with here every Monday through Friday night
from me till midnight.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Okay, I've been listening to you for years.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Thanks Jerry, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for
a good.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
One ever, good evening. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Take a quick break. One line six one seven thirty
one line six months if nine three one the only
line of six months EFN nine three one ten thirty.
The other one filled pretty quickly. Coming right back on
night side.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Back we go, we got full lines. Let's keep rolling here.
This has been a great topic. Let me go to Rick. Bill, Rick, Rick,
you were next on nice side.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Go ahead, Thank you. I would like Jerry to be
my pilot. And when the next time I take a plane.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I'll tell you talk about a guy who had ice
water in his veins. I would have been screaming and yelling,
where's the parachutes?
Speaker 6 (08:36):
That's even higher than Sully was in the jumbo jet.
But but that that's amazing. What an amazing guy. Holy crap,
he's calm, he's calm and cool. So uh yeah. A
few calls ago, I think it was Bill was talking
about Afghanistan, totally true. What happened. The Biden administration dropped
the ball terribly. Yeah, but I don't think that has
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anything to do with katak H as far as I know.
And I'm just thinking it's one thing. If there was
a famous Katari painter, one of the paint Trump's you know, portrait,
and it could cost most people, most rich people would
have to pay one hundred thousand dollars, and he's gonna
do it for free, and it's like, all right, whatever, okay,
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but this is a this is a four hundred thousand
dollars vehicle.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Four hundred billion brought a million.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
That's what I'm meant to say. That's what I'm meant
to say. Yeah, that's this is I mean, if Trump's
just messing with people and it's really just trying to
get people going, fine, maybe Mike is right, maybe there's
a plane that's already coming. But uh but yeah, he
shouldn't accept it. It doesn't do him any favors for
his credibility. It's just it's two I mean, where's the favors,
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where's the who knows if it's if it's not bugged
like you were saying, I don't know, but it's it
just doesn't sit well with me, and I'm glad that
did Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
Did you said Lindsey Graham, Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, several several Republicans which would be in this situation. Graham,
who is as biggest supporter of Donald Trump as anyone,
he made some comments as did what Graham said. Air
Force one is a symbol of America when it landsa flies,
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it is American America flying and landing. And I want
to make sure that this whole thing is kosher. Time
will tell. Now he's sort of on the fence, but
you would think that Lindsey Graham would have said, oh,
we're with the president totally on this one, and he's
not ted. Cruz was also raised concerns. Senator Ran paula
Kentucky said no. He said, uh. He said, whether it's
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improper or not, I don't think it's worth it. That
was Rayan Paul's comment. Lisa Murkowski is also pretty sceptical,
pretty skeptical. So yeah, and here's one that's interesting. I
don't know if you know who Laura Loomer is. She's
a Republican congresswoman from Colorado. She's pretty far right wing
activist kind of. She's a She's a big Trump supporter.
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She says, I love President Trump and take a bullet
from but I have to call a spade a spade.
We cannot accept a four hundred million dollar gift from
Gee Hottis and suits Loomer ROTOECKX. I'm so disappointed.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Are they g Are Qatarians? I think? I know?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
No, Do I think that that No? Do I think
that that there are people in any of those governments
who have sympathies, certainly, but I would hope that we
could uh talk some sense into those countries, you know,
the UAE and UH and Qatar and Cutter uh and
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say look, you know, uh, you know you got to
get rid of these people in your governments. Many of
the Well, I think that Katar and the UAE are
now signatories to the Abraham Accords, which indicate that they
will h interact and deal with the State of Israel,
which is a big step for some of those Arab
countries to make. So yeah, but look, all of them
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have potential. Look, we found out with Saudi Arabia fifteen
of the nineteen hijackers, the nine eleven people with Saudi
and yeah, so yeah, it's it's there's a lot of
smoke and mirrors there. You don't know who you're you're
actually dealing with is and so yeah, got to be careful,
got to be careful.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
I think I think he ought to just maybe he's
just playing with people. But no, he's talking about putting
in the hole and being able to he's making that
golf reference and yeah, being able to walk at the ball.
That's ridiculous. You know, we're talking about bad comparison.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
This is.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I don't think he should be involved with it. And
he had to listen to Lindsey and that uh, this
one who said to take a bullet. She's smart. There
are cruis that's smart. Just don't do it. Don't be
a fool. It really reduces the guy that I voted for.
It reduces the Republican you know agenda.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's a total distraction, total distraction, all right, unnecessary unforced
error to keep the sports betafore going.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Thanks, thanks, yeah, exactly, you have a good night.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Thank you you too. Let's keep rolling here. Where we're
going to go next to Jim, Hey Jim in Missouri,
Hey Jim, next on nightsag right ahead.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Dan Hi thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
How are you right back at you? How are you
doing tonight?
Speaker 8 (13:37):
Unhappy?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Good?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So?
Speaker 8 (13:41):
Well, three things. Okay. First of all, somebody somebody else
said already one of the things that I was going
to say, which is that there are several air Force ones.
Now exactly how many there are? I don't think anything, right,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think I think it's too But someone said three.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
So that's someone maybe knows. Okay, there's more than one.
So first of all, that's the first thing. They'd have
to donate more than one of them. So okay. First
of all, the second thing is has this ever been
approved before? If it has, how many times does Congress
have to approve something before? You know, if it's never
been approved before, Okay, well then then probably it's not
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going to happen. But the third thing is, and this,
this is one thing I want to say for sure.
If what I would say to Donald Trump is wrung
what you've brung, don't get new stuff because new stuff
has a habit of breaking down. And there's one thing
you don't want to break down. It's your airplane. Right,
So take the next call.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Fair enough, Thanks Jim, appreciate it. Bye, short, sweet to
the point like that. Let me go next two that
line of number three. I have no idea who that
is Rob. So in the meantime, let me go to
Chris down to the Cape, Chris and the Cape next
on nightside, Chris, go right ahead, Yeah, Hi, Hi Chris there,
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I am definitely here. I hope you're there as well.
Go right ahead. You're in the air.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yes? I can, Chris. Actually we're having a conversation right
now on the air.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Ahead. Yeah, very briefly, going back to Greek mythology, beware
of Greek sparing gifts. And that was the Trojan Horse
story by Kuhn. And that's all I have to say.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So beware of Katari's bearing gifts. Okay, correct, fair enough?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Watch how could that Trojan horse?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
All right, Chris appreciate it, Thank you very much. To
the point, thank you, six one seven thirty. Those lines
are full. There were two lines open at six one
seven nine. Let me go to David in San Francisco. David,
let's let's try to stay on track. Right ahead, David, Oh, I.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
Was gonna mirror that previous color Trojan Horse? How could
Trump be so dumb as to accept the trojan horse.
But he did accept a pack of limousines from from
fat Tony Salerno when he built his casinos, and those
were probably wire tapped so that he could make use
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of blackmail, uh, tied to his casino.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So yeah, you're.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Kind of you're kind of again going going off in
a direction that I know nothing about, and I have
no idea who Tony Salerno is. Uh. And so if
you like to stay back on what we're talking about tonight,
that's great. If not, well we'll bid you do.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
Well. It's the guy is pretty damn dumb if you
imagine that he would accept a gift that could be
wire tapped, could be sabotaged, and it clearly is a
conflict of interest with the with the Constitution, he's not
supposed to accept emoluments from anybody, much less a kingdom.
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And for Trump to pretend in fact, I heard another
show this morning saying that he has a real estate
deal with Qatar going right now, and the four hundred
million would come to about ten percent of that, So
it would be a ten percent kickback for his real
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estate deal in Qatar.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I think we've just gone off the rail. So if
you have the plank, Rob, I appreciate it. We're going
to big David to night. Thank you, David. Let's keep
rolling here, love David. But I'll tell you we just
cleared a lot of calls. Bob and Rainham. Hey Bob,
welcome back. How are you, Hey, Dan?
Speaker 10 (17:43):
How's it going.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'm doing great. Any luck on that thing we talked
about off there, I hope.
Speaker 10 (17:50):
Not too much. Pretty much what you kind of said,
probably what happened. I think I should have struck while
the iron was hot. But anyway, okay, you go back
and we can talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
So there's no way President Trump should accept that aircraft.
But two things. First of all, Boeing should be embarrassed
to tears for where they are with this.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, talk about a little late here talking about whoa.
Speaker 10 (18:27):
Yeah, they should have a press conference tomorrow saying mister President,
you know this thing will be moved to the front
of the line and you'll have it whatever by a
reasonable time, not by whenever. It is two thousand.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Twenty seven. That contract I believe was executed in twenty
seventeen for three point nine billion dollars boy, Yeah, I'm
going to get my my Boeing stock. I'm not going
to be buying any Boeing stock, that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Right.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
And then the second thing, to save face, I think
if he wanted to, you know, do something for the
American people with I believe they're you know, a large
oil producing country, say hey, I can't accept that playing
thanks but no thanks, But how about let's make a
deal and fill up my oil reserves that the previous
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administration emptied on me. I'll tell you this, maybe do
something in that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, you know, Bob, with the price of oil now
around sixty three sixty four dollars, this is probably the
time that he should be refilling the oil reserves. I
have no idea where US oil reserves are now, but
if they need to be refilled, this isn't a bad time.
Speaker 10 (19:47):
Well, I think he wanted to do it. And when
when they were when it was like thirty bucks a barrel,
and they wouldn't let him do it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Bob, it hasn't been thirty in a while.
Speaker 10 (19:58):
Well, I think it was for a period of time
during his administration.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yes, oh yes, yeah, but that's that's now eight years ago. Yeah,
absolutely right, But.
Speaker 10 (20:10):
He wanted to fill it then, and uh, you know,
the Democratic Congress wouldn't allow him to do it for
some reason from what I remember. But anyway, I think
I think that would be a good resolved for it
and show that again he really is for the American
people and not for himself. I mean, you know this,
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this supposedly would save us money if they gave it
to us as a gift. But it just isn't right.
It doesn't The appearance is horrible. You can't and again
and again Boeing should just jump right to the should
have a press conference tomorrow and tell him we'll have
this fire by the end of the year or something.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Okay, by the way, the last numbers I'm looking at
here crude oil and natural gas reserves. Uh, at the
last numbers I have from twenty twenty two, and we're
in much better shape. We have seven hundred trillion cubic
feet of natural gas and we have fifty billion barrels
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of crude oil as of the end of twenty twenty two.
That is up from twenty ten, substantially. Substantially. In twenty
ten we only had twenty billion barrels of oil. We
now have sixty Well, as of twenty twenty two, we
had sixty billion barrels of oil, and likewise, natural gas
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reserve have increased dramatically since twenty ten, actually about triple,
so we're in pretty good shape in that regard. There
was a dip during the Biden administration, but it looks
as if that dip was filled pretty quickly.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's actually good news. I haven't seen those numbers in
a while, but I was able to pop all up
real quickly. Bod keep in touch, keep in touch.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Okay, I thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Okay, you gotta take quick break bottom of the eye
with the only line open. Now we got two at
six point seven thirty had a variety of viewpoints. Feel
free to express whatever you think about this one. It's
it's been an amazing conversation, and I'm delighted with all
of the viewpoints we've we've heard, and by the way,
it hasn't necessarily well. I think Trump's supporters are strongly
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split on this. Trump critics remain critical of President Trump
on this in most other matters. Back on night Side
right after this.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
It's Night Side with.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
A lot of calls let's keep rolling. You're going to
go to Eric in Methuin. Hey Eric, welcome back. How
are you tonight?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Good evening, Dan. I'm kind of shocked that I turned
into this issue. I'm retired from the Navy now, and
I've flown and served in every single one of those
countries in the midst except for Iran of course, and
I've lived in Bahrain over there. And there's a couple
of things. A I'd much rather have Mid East countries
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offering stuff to us than not offering.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Stuff to us.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Let's look at that point there there are we're going
to give the Statue of Liberty back. I mean we
took that as a gift. I mean it was that
a trojan horse, sue I'd much rather have. I'd much
rather have Arab countries having a positive attitude towards us
and saying here, we're going to give you something, you know,
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and I just look at it. You can't really replace
it Air Force one with something that's not built from scratch,
because as starting off from the Navy's an aircraft mechanic,
as an enlisted guy, I those planes are built with
a lot of shielding and everything, and a lot of
systems that are built for if we go to war
type of scenarios. So to rework a plane that's gifted
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to us into a plane that's got the systems that
Air Force one has on it would cost more than
just building an air Force one from scratch.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Number two.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Air Force one is not even that old that the
airplanes that are based out of Andrews right now, those
seven forty sevens aren't.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Really that old.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
I mean we have.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah, well yeah, that's when they were built, and they
actually had to be rebuilt because the original Air Force
one seven forty sevens built in the eighties did not
have all the shielding and everything for electromagic pulse and
all that sort of stuff that happens, so they had
to rebuild those airplanes. But we have V fifty two's
that are seventy years old that people are still flying
right now in the Air Force on the front line.
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So the planes aren't that old. But no, I will definitely,
you know, we have to stop stereotyping. I mean, it
was okay to take gifts from other countries, but just
because they're Arab countries, there's lots of good people in
those countries that have a lot of respect for America
and want to be friends with them America and prefer
to be friends of America. We have bases, I have
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flown into all those countries and landed, and aircraft need
a lot of support and helped just like ships do,
and our navy ships and naval aircraft that land in
those countries need a lot of support from from the
local population, from workers and everything else. And they're their force,
and they do their work with a smile on their face,
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even in the middle of July when it's one hundred
and twenty five degrees out.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
And I'm just curious, how safe do you feel as
a member of the US military when you're on a
US military air base in some of those countries which
you know, I always go back to nine to eleven
and fifteen of the nineteen hijackers with Saudi.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Right, And I've been in Saudi Arabia when when I
went over for Iraqi Freedom, the first base we landed
at was Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia. As
far as being you know, and I know the Kobe
Towers happened. I knew somebody an F fifteen PI that
was killed in the nineteen ninety six attack at that base.
But as far as safe, I mean, our large, probably
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the largest air base in the world is over there.
I think it's cutter and and we you know, we
have bases in every one of those countries, and we
hire local population to help out working at those bases.
And I feel very safe at those bases.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
And I mean that's good because I've never been to
those countries in the Middle East. I have been overseas
and a whole bunch of different areas, but never been there.
So do you when you're in those countries, do you
go off base? And is it a different feel when
you're off base, when you're in a city or you know,
somewhere that's do you not on a US military base?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yes, I mean they still have diplomatic areas where more
things are allowed than not in the diplomatic areas out
in the cities like in Manama City and stuff, and
in Dubai and Abu Dhabi as well. But those cities
are becoming more and more Asternized and more liberal as
far as their culture and what they allow. So they
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look to the West quite a bit because they you know,
they know the oil thing is I mean, we don't
get the oil that we We don't rely on them
for oil like we did at one point.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
So they know they.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Need banking and financing. You're not going to go over
there with your funds and put it in their banks.
If they're a radical religious government, right, you know, they
want you banking in their banks. And like Bahrain, Bahrain
and Cutter have both turned into big They want to
be like Switzerland. They want you to feel safe about
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using their banks. You know, banking has become one of
their biggest one of the biggest industries has become banking
because they know the oil thing over and out, so
they want you to feel safe about investing over there.
You know, they've got big golf courses, they've got resorts,
they've got they've got star hotels.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I believe that that Trump is building for a big
golf course, eighteen home golf course, you know, big golf
course where they'll have you know, PGA tournaments. I'm sure
in guitar Cutter.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
You know what amazes me is we don't have enough
water in California all the time, but somehow the Mid
East you can take the longest shower and the big
hotels that are really nice. I've stayed in, have like
five shower heads in the showers and there's endless water
because they have those desalination plants. Why, I don't know
why we can't do that here, but the's off subject.
But anyways, my thing is what you know, if a
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Mid East country wants to do something for us and
gift us something, they're just trying to be like France
was at one point. They're just trying to be friendly.
They're just making a gesture and say, you know, even
if we say no, thanks, it's cheaper for us to
build a plant from scratch. Say you know what, thanks
a lot for trying to give us a gift. I
just say thank you, Eric, Eric.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Frust of all, thank you for your service. Sounds like
it's been quite an adventure for you.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
It was a ride of a lifetime. I'm sixty five countries.
I have skied on a volcano and in so many
weird places.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Including.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Including Dubai, you know, in indoors and in Japan, and
I've hiked in weird places. And yeah, it was a
ride of a lifetime. I've stance retired. I retired three
years ago. Dan, Yes, and I.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Put in sounds like you put in twenty four years.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Actually, yeah, twenty four years. And it was it was
he it was one hecker ARide. I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And I write a book. I write a book.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I have more people to tell me that, and you know,
but it was great and I got I just got
married last September to a great ballet dancer. And life's
never went better.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You get it all. Congratulations on everything, and thank you
on everything, and keep calling the show. You're a great
call I appreciate it. Eric, Thank you much.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
All right, I have a great night.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Dan, thank you too.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
All right, good night. Wow, that's so good. That was interesting.
All right, let me get real quickly. Here got Matt
and Brighton. Gonna get you in Matt before the break, right.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Ahead, all right, hey you there, let's go.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
We gotta go.
Speaker 12 (30:16):
All right, yeah, no, no, no, absolute gratitude to the service
of the last caller.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
That's much respect.
Speaker 12 (30:26):
I will on the views he expressed, however, I will,
you know, disagree. I think guitar or cutter. You know,
it's called over in the West during the world. It's
not our friend. It's definitely not Israel's friend. They are
not part of NATO. They are part of the non
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military or the non alliance part of NATO. Although so
they say they're America's friend through that. But taking a
gift of a thirteen year old plane four hundred million dollars,
Trump can give it to the Library of Congress, you know,
aft before he leaves and probably find a loophole. I
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don't know how genuine the offer is. And that's where
my line, would you know, lay they have a They
do have a big base over there, absolutely that he's true,
and there are a lot of Americans who are over there.
Guitar also pays an absolutely huge amount of money for
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citizens to stay there. They're a partial monarchy, so their
government is not a defacto based on religion, and it
doesn't have My point is I wouldn't completely trust their intentions.
So fair enough, but Donald don't do it all.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Right, And again you're a supporter, so I mean it's.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I think it's interesting everything that I I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That, but I think those look, there are peat in
the audience, like my friend David in San Francisco, who
anything that Donald Trump does will be criticized. I mean
that Donald Trump, you know, you come up with a
proverbial cure for cancer. David would have a problem with it,
and I understand that he doesn't like Donald Trump, but
you take everything that David says with the grain of salt.
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But I'm surprised. I shouldn't say I'm surprised. I think
that there's been a lot of people who tend to
be either Trump supporters or supportive of many of his initiatives,
who tonight have said no on this, which is very
interesting to me. It's been an interesting couple of hours.
Speaker 10 (32:38):
Really has why should he take it?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Why should take it?
Speaker 12 (32:41):
What are they doing for us?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Believe I.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Appreciated Boddy, talk to you soon. Have a great one. Okay,
I got I got enough callers to get through here,
but I'm I got a couple of open lines six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six month seven nine, three, one, ten thirty
if you want last on this. Should Donald Trump take
that plane from Cutter? I think the majority of my
folks are saying no. Eric probably was the strongest in
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support of it. But we've we've had a really good
discussion for two hours in this. I'm gratified and I
think everyone who has called, and if you haven't, you
got the numbers coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's night Side with.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Boston's news Radio, gratified by a lot of different voices
tonight as well. Love my regular callers, but I love
new callings. I we're going to Dave in New Jersey. Dave,
You're next Nightside Welcome.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (33:38):
Otherwise there's the original day from Maryland.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
How you being Dan?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I remember Dave from Maryland. Have you moved or you drive?
Speaker 13 (33:47):
I'm actually I took a ride here all the way
up to Manhattan. So now I'm on my way back home.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
From Maryland to Manhattan. Just on joy ride.
Speaker 13 (33:59):
D seeds in New York for a substantial amount of money.
But anyway, that wasn't a joy ride.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
But you're working, you're working ahead of.
Speaker 13 (34:10):
Yeah, no, I'm on the way home anyway. Seriously, it's illegal, unconstitutional,
very selfish, very narcissistic. I think if Cutter or guitar
or whatever you want to call them would cut a
check to the United States of America for four hundred
billion dollars and they would put it towards this air
traffic control debacle, that would be way more efficient than
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what accepting a wanta be air Force one. If Trump,
if he had any sense that all, he'd be in
Europe right now talking to our allies to fix to
fix the mess that's going on in Ukraine and to
end that war. To go over there and hang out
well as rich buddies, to me is just sick. And
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that's what I heard you're talking about. David from San Francisco.
I'm probably like him. I just think this whole thing
is a huge bars.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (35:04):
Well, let me just say this, if you if you
knew David, you would know that he he's very predictable, Okay,
and so on this situation.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And by the way, there's a possibility, just to give
your heads up, that there may be a presidential side
trip later this week to Turkey. There's some speculation about
that that there may be something in the wind in
terms of Ukraine. But again I'm just telling you that
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there's nothing confirmed on that. What he's doing in the
Middle East is important because if he can get these
these Arab countries to respect and understand that the enemies
of Israel are also at the end of the day,
their enemies. I mean, the the Hooties have been iron
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rockets in Saudi Arabia and the Hoodies are supported by Iran.
So it's a very complicated situation over there, and we
need to try to get as many people in our
camp and supportive of Israel in the Middle East and
isolate Iran even more.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
So.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
There's a lot going on here, and I take everything
you said as being being well thought out, but I
also want to make sure that we got the context
of what's going on, and he's just not over there
for this per se.
Speaker 13 (36:35):
Well, it certainly for the most part, seems like it.
And there's all, you know, a lot of greed involved,
and again, you know, look at all the problems we
have here right now. I think I understand what you're
saying with Israel and our Erab so called friends. But remember,
I believe this prince was also involved in killing Koshogi
(36:59):
was his name from the Wuestion.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I I don't think there's any question about that. I
think you're correct on that, absolutely.
Speaker 13 (37:07):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
But then at some point, and I understand the point
you're making, at some point do we declare war on
Saudi Arabia. I'm more concerned about Saudi Arabia. Arabia fifteen
of the nineteen hijackers with Saudi, and we still don't
know the truth about nine to eleven, do we No,
(37:31):
So I'm just saying you're making good points. I'm supporting
some of your points. But at the same time, whatever
beef the Saudi government had with Kashow, you're not going
to bring him back to life. I think you got
to look at the big picture.
Speaker 13 (37:49):
Yeah, and the big picture is that autocrats rule the
world and we need to stop that.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Fair enough, fair enough, Okay, gave you a final word.
I gotta get John in New York in here as well.
Drive carefully, safe trip home.
Speaker 13 (37:59):
Okay, Thanks Dave, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Thank you, come back soon. Let me go to John
in New York. John, you get a rabbit for us tonight,
Go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Yes, Hi, I'm gonna make a cluick.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
Good evening, Dan. And I want to say I'm a
supporter of Donald Trump, and I think he should not
accept it.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
That's a big no.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Well, there's a there are a lot of people who
are regular callers to this program who I know are
favorably inclined toward President Trump, and they support you on that,
and a lot of prominent Republicans in Congress, Rain Paul
ted Cruz, the Lindsey Graham, John Toon, the Majority Leader,
(38:45):
have also made critical comments, as well as Congresswoman Loomer
from Colorado, who is his biggest supporter of Donald Trump
as there is in the House of Representative. She says.
She says no as well, So you're a good You're
in good company.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Here.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Tell me why you say.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
No, because it's a suspicious thing in my mind, and
I don't trust.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It, you know, Okay, you got it?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
And I think, you know, I.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
Think when he thinks it through, I think he'll be
small enough to realize don't get involved with anything like this.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well, I think he might be right, and I think
that might be we might see the beginning of that discernment,
if you will, by the reaction of people tonight, John,
I thank you so much. I got you in late.
I promise I'll give you more time next time. And
thank you for being sixtinct.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
Yeah, and one quick thing, did you know he owned
an airline years ago? The Trump Show?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Did he own? Did I know?
Speaker 7 (39:47):
He owned one an airline? It was called the Trump Shuttle.
He bought it from me an airline.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and that went belly up too all.
I got to run, John, Thank you much. Appreciate everyone.
To Rob Brooks, great job. Nice to have you back.
We'll see you tomorrow night. I'll be on Facebook night
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, it is thank for miss Dan Watkins. It's
I got eleven o eight. I hope I'm pretty close
on that one. We're talking about Donald Trump's airplane. Uh yeah,
he he says that he might accept an airplane. Nothing's
finally yet, But I just think it's a fascinating issue
and a fascinating topic. It's also an issue in which
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there seems to be a split amongst his supporters. So
which makes me think that a couple of our callers
in the first hour of the ten o'clock hour, who
suggested that this deal might not come to fruition, might
be right. In the meantime, let's get back to the calls.
We got one line available at six, one, seven, nine thirty.
(00:49):
Gotta go to Jerry in Michigan. Hey, Jerry in Michigan,
Welcome back to Nightside. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I'm all right, Dan, I got a little bit of
a different spin on that.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Excellent.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I don't know if that's an air bus or uh
Boeing plane. I think was Obama or Biden had already
ordered like replacements for Air Force one and I think
Trump canceled that order in his first term. I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
No, I don't think so. I think that I think
that the replacements.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Had been ordered the the the Air Force, the Air
Force ones that currently are in use, and apparently both
of them have periodic need to get in the shop
and get taken care of date back to President Reagan,
so they're inaccessive.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I was pretty sure they one of the presidents had
some on order and somebody canceled them because I.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Think that, and I'm going to stay to be corrected,
and I'm going to look it up if if, and
correct myself if necessary. But mine standing is that Donald
Trump had issued some orders for these planes, and then
along came COVID, and I think that the planes. In
a matter of fact, let me see if I can
find this information and we can share it right here.
(02:14):
I think that the planes, the replacement Air Force ones,
the new Air Force ones are still on are not
expected to be delivered until twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yeah. Yeah, anyways, Really, what I wanted to bring up
was is that they just can't buy one plane there.
I believe they've got to have three, so they don't
deal with one. They've got three out there on the tarmac,
and when whoever's coming out to go, it's what's behind
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door number one or number two or number three? They don't.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Okay, let me if I can, Jerry, I've just found
that this is in the Washington Post, and I think
I think I'm correct, but I'd like to read it
to you. During Trump's first term, which would have been
between twenty seventeen and twenty twenty one, Boeing agreed to
a fixed price three point nine billion dollar contract to
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deliver two modified Boeing seven forty seven airliners that would
take on the Air Force one Moniker when the president
is on board. But delivery for the first of the
two jets is not expected until at least twenty and
twenty seven, and Boeing has incurred billions of dollars in
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cost overruns that it has had to absorb that. I
don't understand why why we would have to pay three
point nine billion dollars for two planes.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah, they're very special planes. Years and years ago, I'm
I'm going to be seventy five on my next birthday, Okay,
But back when I was in college, I used to
work with the father of one of the mechanics that
was on the on the team, the mechanic team for
the Air Force one down there, and he knew that
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there was three of them, and they never knew which
one one they were going to take for security reasons,
you know, just in case somebody tried to pull a
fast one.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But as a matter of fact, let me just reading
from this article in the Washington Post. It says the
contract for the new Air Force one jets signed with
Boeing during the first Trump administration included a number of
requirements that were quote gold plated, the former senior defense
official said, noting significant requirements for electrical power, refrigeration units,
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and in flight medical capabilities. The program also calls for
a four engine designed to increase redundancy if there are
mechanical failures. I guess that's why we cost about two
billion dollars apiece.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, I remember hearing that that they were going to
have extra extra engines on them rather than the two,
like the seven thirty sevens and fifty sevens and seven
eighty whatever they are. I've lost tract of all their numbers,
but they usually hanging one engine on each wing. But
I'd heard that they were going to go to a
four engines. By the way, I know this is way off,
(05:27):
But I wrote a book a couple of years ago,
and one of my chapters in my book was my
experience in flying I left Milwaukee. I used to fly
to Milwaukee to Detroit in my own plane, and on
one trip back home, I lost my engine eleven thousand
feet right over the middle of Lake Michigan. And I'm
still here.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
So you lost Is it a single engine plane?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I got eleven thousand feet. What did you do? Just
try to get it over? What you do?
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah? Oh yeah, I glided in. I found I slowed up.
I usually cruise about one hundred and seventy. If i'd
slow up to about one hundred and thirty, that gave
me my least amount of fall out of the air.
That's a there's a chart in the in the manual,
and I used to keep those charts on the ceiling
of my plane and just in case I needed them.
And I had it there. But I had thirty three
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minutes with God and and we made it into Mischigan.
So but wow, yeah, that's on the west side of
Michigan there, east side of the lake. But I worked
Chicago and Cleveland and Lansing and two centers and then
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then two other airports. They all wanted me to declare
an emergency, and I said no because it doesn't change
a thing.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Good for you, Jerry. I'm glad you made it because
if you had, you wouldn't have called tonight.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Hey, thank you so much, Jerry. Appreciate your time. Appreciate
you you you being such a loyal listener out there
and call more often. Okay, thank you very much.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Well, I had I just I had a personal tragedy
here the first of January. I haven't been able to call.
I would have been on some some more of your calls,
but I've had a very very rough early start of
the year here, and I'm just getting myself straightened out.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Okay, well, long be able to be more.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, I hope that you know. I'm not going to
ask you what your wife?
Speaker 3 (07:29):
My wife? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
How long were you married? A long time?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Forty six forty six years?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay, that's a hell of a run.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, yep, yep. And I'm still having in trouble, but
I'm getting out over it. So thank you for being
there yourself as well.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Well, we're there with here every Monday through Friday night
from me till midnight.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Okay, I've been listening to you for years.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Thanks Jerry, I appreciate it very much. Thank you for
a good.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
One ever, good evening. Thanks.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Take a quick break. One line six one seven thirty
one line six months if nine three one the only
line of six months EFN nine three one ten thirty.
The other one filled pretty quickly. Coming right back on
night side.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Back we go, we got full lines. Let's keep rolling here.
This has been a great topic. Let me go to Rick. Bill, Rick, Rick,
you were next on nice side.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
Go ahead, Thank you. I would like Jerry to be
my pilot. And when the next time I take a plane.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I'll tell you talk about a guy who had ice
water in his veins. I would have been screaming and yelling,
where's the parachutes?
Speaker 6 (08:36):
That's even higher than Sully was in the jumbo jet.
But but that that's amazing. What an amazing guy. Holy crap,
he's calm, he's calm and cool. So uh yeah. A
few calls ago, I think it was Bill was talking
about Afghanistan, totally true. What happened. The Biden administration dropped
the ball terribly. Yeah, but I don't think that has
(08:57):
anything to do with katak H as far as I know.
And I'm just thinking it's one thing. If there was
a famous Katari painter, one of the paint Trump's you know, portrait,
and it could cost most people, most rich people would
have to pay one hundred thousand dollars, and he's gonna
do it for free, and it's like, all right, whatever, okay,
(09:18):
but this is a this is a four hundred thousand
dollars vehicle.
Speaker 7 (09:23):
Four hundred billion brought a million.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
That's what I'm meant to say. That's what I'm meant
to say. Yeah, that's this is I mean, if Trump's
just messing with people and it's really just trying to
get people going, fine, maybe Mike is right, maybe there's
a plane that's already coming. But uh but yeah, he
shouldn't accept it. It doesn't do him any favors for
his credibility. It's just it's two I mean, where's the favors,
(09:49):
where's the who knows if it's if it's not bugged
like you were saying, I don't know, but it's it
just doesn't sit well with me, and I'm glad that
did Lindsey Graham.
Speaker 8 (10:00):
Did you said Lindsey Graham, Oh.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, several several Republicans which would be in this situation. Graham,
who is as biggest supporter of Donald Trump as anyone,
he made some comments as did what Graham said. Air
Force one is a symbol of America when it landsa flies,
(10:23):
it is American America flying and landing. And I want
to make sure that this whole thing is kosher. Time
will tell. Now he's sort of on the fence, but
you would think that Lindsey Graham would have said, oh,
we're with the president totally on this one, and he's
not ted. Cruz was also raised concerns. Senator Ran paula
Kentucky said no. He said, uh. He said, whether it's
(10:45):
improper or not, I don't think it's worth it. That
was Rayan Paul's comment. Lisa Murkowski is also pretty sceptical,
pretty skeptical. So yeah, and here's one that's interesting. I
don't know if you know who Laura Loomer is. She's
a Republican congresswoman from Colorado. She's pretty far right wing
activist kind of. She's a She's a big Trump supporter.
(11:08):
She says, I love President Trump and take a bullet
from but I have to call a spade a spade.
We cannot accept a four hundred million dollar gift from
Gee Hottis and suits Loomer ROTOECKX. I'm so disappointed.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Are they g Are Qatarians? I think? I know?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
No, Do I think that that No? Do I think
that that there are people in any of those governments
who have sympathies, certainly, but I would hope that we
could uh talk some sense into those countries, you know,
the UAE and UH and Qatar and Cutter uh and
(11:47):
say look, you know, uh, you know you got to
get rid of these people in your governments. Many of
the Well, I think that Katar and the UAE are
now signatories to the Abraham Accords, which indicate that they
will h interact and deal with the State of Israel,
which is a big step for some of those Arab
countries to make. So yeah, but look, all of them
(12:11):
have potential. Look, we found out with Saudi Arabia fifteen
of the nineteen hijackers, the nine eleven people with Saudi
and yeah, so yeah, it's it's there's a lot of
smoke and mirrors there. You don't know who you're you're
actually dealing with is and so yeah, got to be careful,
got to be careful.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
I think I think he ought to just maybe he's
just playing with people. But no, he's talking about putting
in the hole and being able to he's making that
golf reference and yeah, being able to walk at the ball.
That's ridiculous. You know, we're talking about bad comparison.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
This is.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
I don't think he should be involved with it. And
he had to listen to Lindsey and that uh, this
one who said to take a bullet. She's smart. There
are cruis that's smart. Just don't do it. Don't be
a fool. It really reduces the guy that I voted for.
It reduces the Republican you know agenda.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
It's a total distraction, total distraction, all right, unnecessary unforced
error to keep the sports betafore going.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Thanks, thanks, yeah, exactly, you have a good night.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Thank you you too. Let's keep rolling here. Where we're
going to go next to Jim, Hey Jim in Missouri,
Hey Jim, next on nightsag right ahead.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
Dan Hi thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
How are you right back at you? How are you
doing tonight?
Speaker 8 (13:37):
Unhappy?
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Good?
Speaker 1 (13:39):
So?
Speaker 8 (13:41):
Well, three things. Okay. First of all, somebody somebody else
said already one of the things that I was going
to say, which is that there are several air Force ones.
Now exactly how many there are? I don't think anything, right,
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I think I think it's too But someone said three.
Speaker 8 (14:01):
So that's someone maybe knows. Okay, there's more than one.
So first of all, that's the first thing. They'd have
to donate more than one of them. So okay. First
of all, the second thing is has this ever been
approved before? If it has, how many times does Congress
have to approve something before? You know, if it's never
been approved before, Okay, well then then probably it's not
(14:22):
going to happen. But the third thing is, and this,
this is one thing I want to say for sure.
If what I would say to Donald Trump is wrung
what you've brung, don't get new stuff because new stuff
has a habit of breaking down. And there's one thing
you don't want to break down. It's your airplane. Right,
So take the next call.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Fair enough, Thanks Jim, appreciate it. Bye, short, sweet to
the point like that. Let me go next two that
line of number three. I have no idea who that
is Rob. So in the meantime, let me go to
Chris down to the Cape, Chris and the Cape next
on nightside, Chris, go right ahead, Yeah, Hi, Hi Chris there,
(15:02):
I am definitely here. I hope you're there as well.
Go right ahead. You're in the air.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Yes? I can, Chris. Actually we're having a conversation right
now on the air.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Ahead. Yeah, very briefly, going back to Greek mythology, beware
of Greek sparing gifts. And that was the Trojan Horse
story by Kuhn. And that's all I have to say.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
So beware of Katari's bearing gifts. Okay, correct, fair enough?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Watch how could that Trojan horse?
Speaker 2 (15:31):
All right, Chris appreciate it, Thank you very much. To
the point, thank you, six one seven thirty. Those lines
are full. There were two lines open at six one
seven nine. Let me go to David in San Francisco. David,
let's let's try to stay on track. Right ahead, David, Oh, I.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
Was gonna mirror that previous color Trojan Horse? How could
Trump be so dumb as to accept the trojan horse.
But he did accept a pack of limousines from from
fat Tony Salerno when he built his casinos, and those
were probably wire tapped so that he could make use
(16:13):
of blackmail, uh, tied to his casino.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So yeah, you're.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Kind of you're kind of again going going off in
a direction that I know nothing about, and I have
no idea who Tony Salerno is. Uh. And so if
you like to stay back on what we're talking about tonight,
that's great. If not, well we'll bid you do.
Speaker 9 (16:36):
Well. It's the guy is pretty damn dumb if you
imagine that he would accept a gift that could be
wire tapped, could be sabotaged, and it clearly is a
conflict of interest with the with the Constitution, he's not
supposed to accept emoluments from anybody, much less a kingdom.
(17:01):
And for Trump to pretend in fact, I heard another
show this morning saying that he has a real estate
deal with Qatar going right now, and the four hundred
million would come to about ten percent of that, So
it would be a ten percent kickback for his real
(17:21):
estate deal in Qatar.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I think we've just gone off the rail. So if
you have the plank, Rob, I appreciate it. We're going
to big David to night. Thank you, David. Let's keep
rolling here, love David. But I'll tell you we just
cleared a lot of calls. Bob and Rainham. Hey Bob,
welcome back. How are you, Hey, Dan?
Speaker 10 (17:43):
How's it going.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I'm doing great. Any luck on that thing we talked
about off there, I hope.
Speaker 10 (17:50):
Not too much. Pretty much what you kind of said,
probably what happened. I think I should have struck while
the iron was hot. But anyway, okay, you go back
and we can talk about it.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Go right ahead.
Speaker 10 (18:05):
Thanks.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (18:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (18:07):
So there's no way President Trump should accept that aircraft.
But two things. First of all, Boeing should be embarrassed
to tears for where they are with this.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Yeah, talk about a little late here talking about whoa.
Speaker 10 (18:27):
Yeah, they should have a press conference tomorrow saying mister President,
you know this thing will be moved to the front
of the line and you'll have it whatever by a
reasonable time, not by whenever. It is two thousand.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Twenty seven. That contract I believe was executed in twenty
seventeen for three point nine billion dollars boy, Yeah, I'm
going to get my my Boeing stock. I'm not going
to be buying any Boeing stock, that's for sure.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
Right.
Speaker 10 (19:05):
And then the second thing, to save face, I think
if he wanted to, you know, do something for the
American people with I believe they're you know, a large
oil producing country, say hey, I can't accept that playing
thanks but no thanks, But how about let's make a
deal and fill up my oil reserves that the previous
(19:26):
administration emptied on me. I'll tell you this, maybe do
something in that.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah, you know, Bob, with the price of oil now
around sixty three sixty four dollars, this is probably the
time that he should be refilling the oil reserves. I
have no idea where US oil reserves are now, but
if they need to be refilled, this isn't a bad time.
Speaker 10 (19:47):
Well, I think he wanted to do it. And when
when they were when it was like thirty bucks a barrel,
and they wouldn't let him do it.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Bob, it hasn't been thirty in a while.
Speaker 10 (19:58):
Well, I think it was for a period of time
during his administration.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yes, oh yes, yeah, but that's that's now eight years ago. Yeah,
absolutely right, But.
Speaker 10 (20:10):
He wanted to fill it then, and uh, you know,
the Democratic Congress wouldn't allow him to do it for
some reason from what I remember. But anyway, I think
I think that would be a good resolved for it
and show that again he really is for the American
people and not for himself. I mean, you know this,
(20:30):
this supposedly would save us money if they gave it
to us as a gift. But it just isn't right.
It doesn't The appearance is horrible. You can't and again
and again Boeing should just jump right to the should
have a press conference tomorrow and tell him we'll have
this fire by the end of the year or something.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Okay, by the way, the last numbers I'm looking at
here crude oil and natural gas reserves. Uh, at the
last numbers I have from twenty twenty two, and we're
in much better shape. We have seven hundred trillion cubic
feet of natural gas and we have fifty billion barrels
(21:12):
of crude oil as of the end of twenty twenty two.
That is up from twenty ten, substantially. Substantially. In twenty
ten we only had twenty billion barrels of oil. We
now have sixty Well, as of twenty twenty two, we
had sixty billion barrels of oil, and likewise, natural gas
(21:37):
reserve have increased dramatically since twenty ten, actually about triple,
so we're in pretty good shape in that regard. There
was a dip during the Biden administration, but it looks
as if that dip was filled pretty quickly.
Speaker 10 (21:51):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
That's actually good news. I haven't seen those numbers in
a while, but I was able to pop all up
real quickly. Bod keep in touch, keep in touch.
Speaker 7 (21:58):
Okay, I thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Okay, you gotta take quick break bottom of the eye
with the only line open. Now we got two at
six point seven thirty had a variety of viewpoints. Feel
free to express whatever you think about this one. It's
it's been an amazing conversation, and I'm delighted with all
of the viewpoints we've we've heard, and by the way,
it hasn't necessarily well. I think Trump's supporters are strongly
(22:26):
split on this. Trump critics remain critical of President Trump
on this in most other matters. Back on night Side
right after this.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
It's Night Side with.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
A lot of calls let's keep rolling. You're going to
go to Eric in Methuin. Hey Eric, welcome back. How
are you tonight?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Good evening, Dan. I'm kind of shocked that I turned
into this issue. I'm retired from the Navy now, and
I've flown and served in every single one of those
countries in the midst except for Iran of course, and
I've lived in Bahrain over there. And there's a couple
of things. A I'd much rather have Mid East countries
(23:11):
offering stuff to us than not offering.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Stuff to us.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Let's look at that point there there are we're going
to give the Statue of Liberty back. I mean we
took that as a gift. I mean it was that
a trojan horse, sue I'd much rather have. I'd much
rather have Arab countries having a positive attitude towards us
and saying here, we're going to give you something, you know,
(23:35):
and I just look at it. You can't really replace
it Air Force one with something that's not built from scratch,
because as starting off from the Navy's an aircraft mechanic,
as an enlisted guy, I those planes are built with
a lot of shielding and everything, and a lot of
systems that are built for if we go to war
type of scenarios. So to rework a plane that's gifted
(23:58):
to us into a plane that's got the systems that
Air Force one has on it would cost more than
just building an air Force one from scratch.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Number two.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Air Force one is not even that old that the
airplanes that are based out of Andrews right now, those
seven forty sevens aren't.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Really that old.
Speaker 6 (24:16):
I mean we have.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah, well yeah, that's when they were built, and they
actually had to be rebuilt because the original Air Force
one seven forty sevens built in the eighties did not
have all the shielding and everything for electromagic pulse and
all that sort of stuff that happens, so they had
to rebuild those airplanes. But we have V fifty two's
that are seventy years old that people are still flying
right now in the Air Force on the front line.
(24:42):
So the planes aren't that old. But no, I will definitely,
you know, we have to stop stereotyping. I mean, it
was okay to take gifts from other countries, but just
because they're Arab countries, there's lots of good people in
those countries that have a lot of respect for America
and want to be friends with them America and prefer
to be friends of America. We have bases, I have
(25:04):
flown into all those countries and landed, and aircraft need
a lot of support and helped just like ships do,
and our navy ships and naval aircraft that land in
those countries need a lot of support from from the
local population, from workers and everything else. And they're their force,
and they do their work with a smile on their face,
(25:25):
even in the middle of July when it's one hundred
and twenty five degrees out.
Speaker 11 (25:29):
And I'm just curious, how safe do you feel as
a member of the US military when you're on a
US military air base in some of those countries which
you know, I always go back to nine to eleven
and fifteen of the nineteen hijackers with Saudi.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
Right, And I've been in Saudi Arabia when when I
went over for Iraqi Freedom, the first base we landed
at was Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia. As
far as being you know, and I know the Kobe
Towers happened. I knew somebody an F fifteen PI that
was killed in the nineteen ninety six attack at that base.
But as far as safe, I mean, our large, probably
(26:08):
the largest air base in the world is over there.
I think it's cutter and and we you know, we
have bases in every one of those countries, and we
hire local population to help out working at those bases.
And I feel very safe at those bases.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
And I mean that's good because I've never been to
those countries in the Middle East. I have been overseas
and a whole bunch of different areas, but never been there.
So do you when you're in those countries, do you
go off base? And is it a different feel when
you're off base, when you're in a city or you know,
somewhere that's do you not on a US military base?
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Yes, I mean they still have diplomatic areas where more
things are allowed than not in the diplomatic areas out
in the cities like in Manama City and stuff, and
in Dubai and Abu Dhabi as well. But those cities
are becoming more and more Asternized and more liberal as
far as their culture and what they allow. So they
(27:08):
look to the West quite a bit because they you know,
they know the oil thing is I mean, we don't
get the oil that we We don't rely on them
for oil like we did at one point.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
So they know they.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
Need banking and financing. You're not going to go over
there with your funds and put it in their banks.
If they're a radical religious government, right, you know, they
want you banking in their banks. And like Bahrain, Bahrain
and Cutter have both turned into big They want to
be like Switzerland. They want you to feel safe about
(27:40):
using their banks. You know, banking has become one of
their biggest one of the biggest industries has become banking
because they know the oil thing over and out, so
they want you to feel safe about investing over there.
You know, they've got big golf courses, they've got resorts,
they've got they've got star hotels.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
I believe that that Trump is building for a big
golf course, eighteen home golf course, you know, big golf
course where they'll have you know, PGA tournaments. I'm sure
in guitar Cutter.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
You know what amazes me is we don't have enough
water in California all the time, but somehow the Mid
East you can take the longest shower and the big
hotels that are really nice. I've stayed in, have like
five shower heads in the showers and there's endless water
because they have those desalination plants. Why, I don't know
why we can't do that here, but the's off subject.
But anyways, my thing is what you know, if a
(28:33):
Mid East country wants to do something for us and
gift us something, they're just trying to be like France
was at one point. They're just trying to be friendly.
They're just making a gesture and say, you know, even
if we say no, thanks, it's cheaper for us to
build a plant from scratch. Say you know what, thanks
a lot for trying to give us a gift. I
just say thank you, Eric, Eric.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Frust of all, thank you for your service. Sounds like
it's been quite an adventure for you.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
It was a ride of a lifetime. I'm sixty five countries.
I have skied on a volcano and in so many
weird places.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Including.
Speaker 5 (29:08):
Including Dubai, you know, in indoors and in Japan, and
I've hiked in weird places. And yeah, it was a
ride of a lifetime. I've stance retired. I retired three
years ago. Dan, Yes, and I.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Put in sounds like you put in twenty four years.
Speaker 5 (29:26):
Actually, yeah, twenty four years. And it was it was
he it was one hecker ARide. I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And I write a book. I write a book.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
I have more people to tell me that, and you know,
but it was great and I got I just got
married last September to a great ballet dancer. And life's
never went better.
Speaker 8 (29:47):
I gotta tell you.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You get it all. Congratulations on everything, and thank you
on everything, and keep calling the show. You're a great
call I appreciate it. Eric, Thank you much.
Speaker 5 (29:56):
All right, I have a great night.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Dan, thank you too.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
All right, good night. Wow, that's so good. That was interesting.
All right, let me get real quickly. Here got Matt
and Brighton. Gonna get you in Matt before the break, right.
Speaker 6 (30:08):
Ahead, all right, hey you there, let's go.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
We gotta go.
Speaker 12 (30:16):
All right, yeah, no, no, no, absolute gratitude to the service
of the last caller.
Speaker 6 (30:22):
That's much respect.
Speaker 12 (30:26):
I will on the views he expressed, however, I will,
you know, disagree. I think guitar or cutter. You know,
it's called over in the West during the world. It's
not our friend. It's definitely not Israel's friend. They are
not part of NATO. They are part of the non
(30:46):
military or the non alliance part of NATO. Although so
they say they're America's friend through that. But taking a
gift of a thirteen year old plane four hundred million dollars,
Trump can give it to the Library of Congress, you know,
aft before he leaves and probably find a loophole. I
(31:07):
don't know how genuine the offer is. And that's where
my line, would you know, lay they have a They
do have a big base over there, absolutely that he's true,
and there are a lot of Americans who are over there.
Guitar also pays an absolutely huge amount of money for
(31:27):
citizens to stay there. They're a partial monarchy, so their
government is not a defacto based on religion, and it
doesn't have My point is I wouldn't completely trust their intentions.
So fair enough, but Donald don't do it all.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Right, And again you're a supporter, so I mean it's.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
I think it's interesting everything that I I don't understand.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
That, but I think those look, there are peat in
the audience, like my friend David in San Francisco, who
anything that Donald Trump does will be criticized. I mean
that Donald Trump, you know, you come up with a
proverbial cure for cancer. David would have a problem with it,
and I understand that he doesn't like Donald Trump, but
you take everything that David says with the grain of salt.
(32:19):
But I'm surprised. I shouldn't say I'm surprised. I think
that there's been a lot of people who tend to
be either Trump supporters or supportive of many of his initiatives,
who tonight have said no on this, which is very
interesting to me. It's been an interesting couple of hours.
Speaker 10 (32:38):
Really has why should he take it?
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Why should take it?
Speaker 12 (32:41):
What are they doing for us?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Believe I.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Appreciated Boddy, talk to you soon. Have a great one. Okay,
I got I got enough callers to get through here,
but I'm I got a couple of open lines six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six month seven nine, three, one, ten thirty
if you want last on this. Should Donald Trump take
that plane from Cutter? I think the majority of my
folks are saying no. Eric probably was the strongest in
(33:10):
support of it. But we've we've had a really good
discussion for two hours in this. I'm gratified and I
think everyone who has called, and if you haven't, you
got the numbers coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
It's night Side with.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
Boston's news Radio, gratified by a lot of different voices
tonight as well. Love my regular callers, but I love
new callings. I we're going to Dave in New Jersey. Dave,
You're next Nightside Welcome.
Speaker 5 (33:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (33:38):
Otherwise there's the original day from Maryland.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
How you being Dan?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I remember Dave from Maryland. Have you moved or you drive?
Speaker 13 (33:47):
I'm actually I took a ride here all the way
up to Manhattan. So now I'm on my way back home.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
From Maryland to Manhattan. Just on joy ride.
Speaker 13 (33:59):
D seeds in New York for a substantial amount of money.
But anyway, that wasn't a joy ride.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
But you're working, you're working ahead of.
Speaker 13 (34:10):
Yeah, no, I'm on the way home anyway. Seriously, it's illegal, unconstitutional,
very selfish, very narcissistic. I think if Cutter or guitar
or whatever you want to call them would cut a
check to the United States of America for four hundred
billion dollars and they would put it towards this air
traffic control debacle, that would be way more efficient than
(34:34):
what accepting a wanta be air Force one. If Trump,
if he had any sense that all, he'd be in
Europe right now talking to our allies to fix to
fix the mess that's going on in Ukraine and to
end that war. To go over there and hang out
well as rich buddies, to me is just sick. And
(34:55):
that's what I heard you're talking about. David from San Francisco.
I'm probably like him. I just think this whole thing
is a huge bars.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (35:04):
Well, let me just say this, if you if you
knew David, you would know that he he's very predictable, Okay,
and so on this situation.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
And by the way, there's a possibility, just to give
your heads up, that there may be a presidential side
trip later this week to Turkey. There's some speculation about
that that there may be something in the wind in
terms of Ukraine. But again I'm just telling you that
(35:36):
there's nothing confirmed on that. What he's doing in the
Middle East is important because if he can get these
these Arab countries to respect and understand that the enemies
of Israel are also at the end of the day,
their enemies. I mean, the the Hooties have been iron
(36:00):
rockets in Saudi Arabia and the Hoodies are supported by Iran.
So it's a very complicated situation over there, and we
need to try to get as many people in our
camp and supportive of Israel in the Middle East and
isolate Iran even more.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
So.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
There's a lot going on here, and I take everything
you said as being being well thought out, but I
also want to make sure that we got the context
of what's going on, and he's just not over there
for this per se.
Speaker 13 (36:35):
Well, it certainly for the most part, seems like it.
And there's all, you know, a lot of greed involved,
and again, you know, look at all the problems we
have here right now. I think I understand what you're
saying with Israel and our Erab so called friends. But remember,
I believe this prince was also involved in killing Koshogi
(36:59):
was his name from the Wuestion.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I I don't think there's any question about that. I
think you're correct on that, absolutely.
Speaker 13 (37:07):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
But then at some point, and I understand the point
you're making, at some point do we declare war on
Saudi Arabia. I'm more concerned about Saudi Arabia. Arabia fifteen
of the nineteen hijackers with Saudi, and we still don't
know the truth about nine to eleven, do we No,
(37:31):
So I'm just saying you're making good points. I'm supporting
some of your points. But at the same time, whatever
beef the Saudi government had with Kashow, you're not going
to bring him back to life. I think you got
to look at the big picture.
Speaker 13 (37:49):
Yeah, and the big picture is that autocrats rule the
world and we need to stop that.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Fair enough, fair enough, Okay, gave you a final word.
I gotta get John in New York in here as well.
Drive carefully, safe trip home.
Speaker 13 (37:59):
Okay, Thanks Dave, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Thank you, come back soon. Let me go to John
in New York. John, you get a rabbit for us tonight,
Go right ahead.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
Yes, Hi, I'm gonna make a cluick.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
Good evening, Dan. And I want to say I'm a
supporter of Donald Trump, and I think he should not
accept it.
Speaker 6 (38:17):
That's a big no.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Well, there's a there are a lot of people who
are regular callers to this program who I know are
favorably inclined toward President Trump, and they support you on that,
and a lot of prominent Republicans in Congress, Rain Paul
ted Cruz, the Lindsey Graham, John Toon, the Majority Leader,
(38:45):
have also made critical comments, as well as Congresswoman Loomer
from Colorado, who is his biggest supporter of Donald Trump
as there is in the House of Representative. She says.
She says no as well, So you're a good You're
in good company.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Here.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Tell me why you say.
Speaker 7 (39:02):
No, because it's a suspicious thing in my mind, and
I don't trust.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It, you know, Okay, you got it?
Speaker 1 (39:13):
And I think, you know, I.
Speaker 7 (39:14):
Think when he thinks it through, I think he'll be
small enough to realize don't get involved with anything like this.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Well, I think he might be right, and I think
that might be we might see the beginning of that discernment,
if you will, by the reaction of people tonight, John,
I thank you so much. I got you in late.
I promise I'll give you more time next time. And
thank you for being sixtinct.
Speaker 7 (39:40):
Yeah, and one quick thing, did you know he owned
an airline years ago? The Trump Show?
Speaker 2 (39:45):
Did he own? Did I know?
Speaker 7 (39:47):
He owned one an airline? It was called the Trump Shuttle.
He bought it from me an airline.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and that went belly up too all.
I got to run, John, Thank you much. Appreciate everyone.
To Rob Brooks, great job. Nice to have you back.
We'll see you tomorrow night. I'll be on Facebook night
Side with Dan Ray in just a couple of minutes.
All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven. That's
why Pal Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago in February,
(40:12):
that's where all your pets are who were passed. They
loved you and you love them. You'll see them again.
I do believe you'll see them again. See you in
tomorrow night. At nights I'd see on Facebook in a
couple of minutes. Rob, thank you, Maria, thank you to
all the callers, new and old alike. Thank you very much.
See tomorrow night.
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