May 13, 2025 • 39 mins
The Qatari royal family is preparing to give the Trump Administration a Boeing 747-8 jumbo jet, to be used as Air Force One in Trump's second term before being donated to his presidential library. Some are taking aim with that, including some Trump supporters. Do you take aim with the gifted Boeing 747 jet?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Conston's new video.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, as so often happens, President Donald Trump finds himself
once again surrounded in a bit of a controversy. Uh,
this is kind of a big controversy. It involves a
four hundred million dollar airplane. That's a big plane. The
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government of Qatar has apparently decided that it would like
to gift to the United States. This a seven seven Now,
according to I want to make sure I get all
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of this correct here, Okay, I believe this is the
Washington Post. Yes, according to the Washington Post, the luxury
Jeff Jet was moved five weeks ago, so we're talking
about sometime in early April to San Antonio International Airport,
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The headline says, suggesting that preparations for improvements to the
plane might already be underway. On Monday of this week,
the President praised Cutter for offering his administration a free
luxury jet, but current in former US military, defense and
Secret Service officials said he'll likely have to waive existing
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security specifications to be able to use the plane. Yesterday,
he was asked about this at a signing who was
signing some executive orders and the question here, and Donald
Trump's been through a couple of impeachments, and there is
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a clause in the US constitutions called the Emolument's Clause,
which says that, you know, presidents and public officials cannot
accept gifts from foreign governments. But Trump's position is this
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is not a gift to him. And although there's probably
a lot of questions still to be answered here, the
back story is that there apparently are two air Force one. Now,
the Air Force one is never air Force one unless
the president is flying on the plane. So if the
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plane is flown from I don't know, point Aid from
Los Angeles to Washington and presidents it may be a
plane that could be air Force one, but the president's
presence on the plane is what signifies it as Air
Force one. There apparently are two planes that during his
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first administration he signed some contracts with Boeing to have
replacement planes, and those have fallen behind schedule, So I'm
sure he's frustrated. That's a little bit of the backstory.
And Cutter, which is very wealthy Middle Eastern country, which
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has been friendly to many of the overtures of the
Trump administration, including the Abraham accords in which Middle Eastern
countries would start to do business with Israel, which are wonderful,
wonderful agreements that might eventually actually lay the groundwork for
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actual peace in the Middle East, particularly if Saudi Arabi
would eventually get on board. So they you know from well,
this is what the president said. Let's listen to what
the president said about it. He was asked about it yesterday.
He is claiming it is not a gift to him,
It is a gift from the government of Cutter to
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the Department of Defense, and that the plane would eventually
be used by him in his capacity as president. This
is cut number one. Please, rob President, Why you say
to people who.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
View got luxury jet as suppose it'll get to you?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Why not leave it?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You're ABC fake news, right because only ABC, well a
few of you would, let me tell you, you should
be embarrassed to ask him that question. They're giving us
a free jet. I could say, no, no, no, don't
give us. I want to pay you a million or
four hundred million or whatever it is. Or I could
say thank you very much. You know, there was an
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old golfer named Sam Sneve. Did you ever hear in
one ad two tournament. Was a great golfer, and he
had a motto. When they gave you a putt, you
say thank you very much, You pick up your ball,
and you walk to the next hole.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
A lot of people are stupid.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
They say no, no, I insist start putting it, and
then they put it and they miss it and their
partner gets angry.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
You know what, Remember that Sam sneed.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
When they give you a putt, you pick it up,
and you walk to the next hall, and you say
thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And of course there was more to the answer. So
let's finish this off with cut one a.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Ruby working at this and say, have you ever been
given a gift worth millions of dollars in an OxyS?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Not a gift to me, It's a gift to the
Department of Defense. And you should know better because you've
been embarrassed enough, and so has your network.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Your network is a disaster. ABC is a disaster.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So I think we understand that there's a couple of
interpretations here. Now believe it or not. I should say
not believe it or not, but believe it because it's true.
Many allies of President Trump are uncomfortable with this set
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of circumstances. They are uncomfortable with accepting funds of this magnitude,
a gift of this magnitude, I should say, they are
uncomfortable with security concerns that could exist. I mean, do
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you want the president of the United States flying around
in a plane that you'd have to, I guess make
sure that there were no bugs on it. I don't
understand why. I can understand why it might. Apparently this
is a really a big time luxury jet. Okay, this
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is not a small jet by any stretch of the imagination.
So the question is that I ask you, I don't
I'd love to know if I would assume most critic
of Donald Trump would see this as echoes of past
controversies and just another moment in time where Donald Trump
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is walking too close to the line. But at the
same time, there are people who were allies of his
who have at least raised concerns about this. This is
an article out of the Boston Globe from earlier today.
Mega Allies criticized Trump's planning to accept four hundred million
dollar jet from cutter As Air Force one. They quote,
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amongst others, and some of these are clearly critics, and
some are not. Senate Majority leader of Chuck Schumer says
President Trump's pension for corruption and grift has risen to
a new label, a new level, with the news his
presidency is for sale. If you happen to have four
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hundred million dollars, that's Chuck Schumer. Meanwhile, as we just heard,
Trump told reporters that the aircraft would be eventually decommissioned
and placed in his future presidential library, and he said
he would not use it after leaving office. Air Force
one is a symbol of America. Republican Senator Lindsay Graham
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of South Carolina said, when it lands or flies, it
is America flying and landing. And I want to make
sure that this whole thing is kosher. Time will tell.
Ted Cruz raised concerns that accepting the free jet from
Cutter posed a significant espionage and surveillance problems. Senate Majority
Leader John Toon today told reporters there will be plenty
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of scrutiny on Trump's decision to accept the Boeing seven
forty seven jet from Cutter. I don't think there's anything
official out there. This is hypothetical, Tune said Tuesday. If
and when it's no longer hypothetical. I can ensure you
there'll be plenty of scrutiny of whatever that arrangement might
look like. And Senator Ran paula Kentucky, a vocal critic
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of Trump's tariff tariff policies, said he thought that Trump
planned to accept the luxury jet from Cutter was a mistake.
Whether it's improper or not, I don't think it's worth it.
Rie and Paul said on Tuesday anyway, Lisa Mkowski or
Alaska Republicans, says she has lots of questions about whether
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accepting the jet would violate the Constitutions and Molument's clause
that provision profitces prohibits US government officials from receiving gifts
from any king, prince, or foreign state without congressional approval.
So I think what President Trump should do is seek
congressional approval. As a matter of fact, even one of
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his most ardent supporters, Laura Lumer, who The Globe describes
as a right wing activist and Trump's supporter. She's from
Colorado member of the House, was also quick to criticize
the office, saying it would be such a stain on
the administration. Loomer is quoted as saying I love President Trump.
I would take a bullet for him, but I have
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to call a spade a spade. We cannot accept a
four hundred million dollar gift from jehardiest and suits. Loomer
wrote on x I'm so disappointed. So that's one final one.
Republican Senator Kevin Kramer, he's a conservative from North Dakota,
defended the gift but said the US government would need
to quote do the most thorough security sweep we've ever done.
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My sense is people want to support Donald Trump around
the world because he's engaged with them. Kramer said on Tuesday,
I don't know if that's a bad thing, as long
as there's no sort of quid pro quo attached to it,
or an expectation that you're going to get preferential treatment
of some sort six one, seven, two, five, four ten
thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Your thoughts,
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your thoughts? Should Donald Trump accept this gift? Accept this
gift from Cutter a four hundred million dollar jet. Join
the conversation. We'll be right back on night side. It's
you and me for the rest of the evening. Let's
get it going right after.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
This Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
By the way, the hits just keep on coming here.
The Red Sox just lost nine to eight in extra
intings in Detroit. They have gone up in the top
of the elevens. I think got up eight to six
on a two run homer by one of the Red Sox.
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And wow, the hits just keep coming here for Boston
sports teams. Let's get to the phones see what people
think on this one. I think it's an interesting issue.
It's it's almost as if Donald Trump is this juggler
and he's got fifty balls in the air and he's
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got to have fifty one. Let's go to John and Boston. Hey, John,
you were first this hour and Nightside. Love to know
if you're a Trump supporter generally and what you think
of this idea.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Well, Dan, I think it's interesting because the United States
accept the Statue of Liberty. I believe it's from France,
and that would probably cost a lot more than that
particular jet. Every year, Boston accepts a Christmas tree from
Halifax Nova Scotia.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, that's not a bad point.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
The company has no problem accepting gifts. I think it's
I believe it seems like it's a gift. So Biden
has allowed millions of people to come here legally cost
it billions of dollars in the United States, many deaths
of Americans by drug over doses and murders and rape.
So now I don't think the president should be used
for the President's air Force one, but maybe they could
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use the jet to bring the illegals that came here
from the Middle East back to the Middle East. That's
what I think they should use the jets for.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
All right, Well, that's that's an interesting take. Let me
ask you this. I'm assuming I'm gonna make the assumption
that the the offer of the plane is in good faith.
I mean, they're not uh sending it to do any mischief.
I mean to you know, you'd have to check it
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for security. I assume there's you know, who knows who
had possession of it at some point. What could be
implanted there? Why do you think President Trump seems to
always be willing to go through these these battles that
are a little irrelevant to what his purpose is, and
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that is to get the economy back on track and
get the border closed, and you know, you get the
big beautiful tax package, you get, get all all the
things done that he promised, and all of a sudden
this comes in as another distraction. Why why does do
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you think he's he's willing to engage in these distractions.
He seems to enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
But what do you mean by a battle? Why is
it a battle? There if a country offers a point,
and what's I don't see, what's the big deal someone
comes over to you at a restaurant, office you or
at appetizer. I mean, where's the battle that say? I'm
a little confused.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, well, one one, I'm not the president of the
United States, so the emolument's clause or things like that
doesn't impact me. All I'm just saying is that he's
got enough fights on his hands. And when you hear
did you did you hear all the conservative senators Ted
Cruz and Ran Paul and others raising concerns and issues.
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I mean, John toon, you know, I just did.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
It's pretty simple to just use it to bring it
legal aliens back to the countries they came from. I
don't know, It's just it's a it's a free gift
from a country. And I don't think Donald Trump should
be in his personal collection, but use it as a
free gift to the United States and bring the illegals
back then there.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I guess that would be one way to diffuse it,
but I'm not sure that that would necessarily diffuse it either.
But that's okay, John, You're thinking outside the box, and
I like that.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
What.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
I think the media is having a lot of fun
with it. It's in terms of nuclear war between India
and Pakistan, Dan and everything that's going on with Russia Ukraine.
The media is having a lot of fun with this.
I think the media is creating a distraction here. And
it's like with the issues we got going on with
the economy and people trying to afford houses here in Massachusetts,
it's almost a non issue. It's like, except the plane,
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don't have the president flying in it for his own
personal safety. I don't think it should be used that,
But use it to bring illegals back to their countries.
Speaker 8 (15:46):
They can get it from you.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I got you suggestion. Let's see what others have to say.
Fair enough, Thanks John, Thanks then as always appreciated. Six
one seven, two, five, four ten thirty one line there
one line at six one seven nine, Well John's thinking
outside the box. He's saying, accept it, but use it
for different purpose. Let me go to Christine and debt him. Christine,
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what do you think about this?
Speaker 9 (16:10):
I don't think you should accept it? I I I mean,
what do they want? What do they want in return?
That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking this is a broad
I I really do. I don't think he should.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Okay, well, I think that a lot of a lot
of the uh, the Democrats are saying, you know what,
this is a quid pro quo. Uh, They're gonna want
something down the line. At the same time, as much
as four hundred million dollars means to you know, people
like you and me, probably to the government of Cutter.
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It's not a big drop. That's not a it's a
it's a it's a big drop. But it's there's there's
a lot of drops in that bucket, you know what
I'm saying. It's not that's not the end of the world.
Maybe they're just looking for for for our continued friendship.
I mean that if I was the head.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Of Cutter, I don't trust that I did that. I
don't know, Dann, like you said, that plan could be
bounds or running that I would trust it.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Well, it could be worse than bugged. I mean, you
could always have a device in any plane. That Rob
was saying during the break that if there are big
screen TVs, you'd have to take those big screen TVs
apart piece by piece and make sure that there wasn't
something hidden in there. There could be. Yeah, they could
be activated remotely. I mean, I know that that sort
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of sounds like something from the movies. But hey, we've
all that, you know, so many things are possible. Let
me ask you the question, why do you think Donald Trump,
why would Donald Trump not say to them, look, thank
you very much. I so appreciate your offer. It shows
me what great friends you are to our country. Thank
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you for what you've done on the Abraham Accords. But
I'm not in a position that I can accept that
behalf of you know, as the president of the United States.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
And you know, because to me, Donald Trump is a dictator.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, so you think he would really like to have this,
uh and when his presidency ends or whatever, that he'd
like to make sure it's part Okay, fair enough, all right,
all right, Christine, I got your I got your point
of view in here. Loud and clearly. Thank you so
much as always appreciate your call.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
Thank you. Okay, good bye.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Talk to you and Christine. Have a great night. Good night. Okay,
only one line at six one, seven, two, four, ten thirty.
Let's keep it rolling. I think we're going to have
an interesting another ninety minutes to talk about this. Love
to get your point of view. Coming back on night
Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
All right. During the break, Rob was saying, and again,
I think it's a good point. I didn't want to
debate John, but statue liberty a little different than an airplane.
It was a gift from UH from France, which which
we appreciated. The tree that we get from what's at
Nova Scotia every year. It's it's just it's it's not
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planted and doesn't go to the government's backyard. It's planted
on the common for all to see, as of course,
is the Statue of Liberty. But that's oh, you know,
different points and again the idea here is to is
to get as many different points of view as possible.
Let's go to Joe and came or see what Joe says, Hey, Joe,
what's your thought on this. I'll be interested to see
where you come down.
Speaker 10 (19:34):
Honestly, Dan, I thank you for taking my call. I
don't I don't know what's problem with it.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I don't, okay, So let me when you say, when
you say you don't have a problem with it, so
you don't have a problem with the plane coming here.
It would have to be certainly a humongous, a huge
security suite, would have to be done on a lane
that came from outside the country. Okay, it would become
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Air Force one, and then according to the president, it
would it would be decommissioned at the end of his
term and then would become a centerpiece or a part
of his presidential library. And that's what he's saying would
happen to It's you're okay with that?
Speaker 10 (20:23):
I think, well, no, when you say that's what he said,
I think and I think he's saying a lot of
what he's saying to get under the you know Democrats
skins and a lot of these you know mainstream media
news agencies. I mean, so you think he's.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Trolling, He's I mean, I think he's trolling on Greenberg,
on Greenland and on Canada.
Speaker 10 (20:48):
I think serious here, Yeah, no, And I was listening
to a podcasts earlier when I was walking around, you know,
getting steps in the last week's podcast about Alcatraz. So
he was trolling them on them to a certain degree,
I think he is. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Thank you, by the way listening to the podcast. I
appreciate that that's a loyal listener.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Right ahead, I got.
Speaker 10 (21:09):
My steps in for two hours Boston, Cambridge and back,
and I was listened to all your podcast from last week.
So yeah, you're welcome. So yeah, I do think to
a degree now, you know, if you break it down,
you didn't really think about it.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Right.
Speaker 10 (21:24):
Worst case scenario, he accepts this gift, this gift, Now,
I do agree. I do agree that he should get
its sanctioned and get permission from Congress. This way, he's
he's off the hook. If they approve it, he's off
the hook and he doesn't have to worry about it.
So you know, if he doesn't end up using it,
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obviously has to go through the massive security sweeps. Worst
case scenario, he accepts it, he doesn't use it. I
do like your earlier caller, John that suggested alternative alternative uses.
I would go step beyond just shipping out all the
illegal or the violent criminals. But I mean, if you
think about the possibilities, it could be used for all
sorts of humanitarian you know purposes, you know, natural disasters
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here in the United States. It could be used for
worldwide global humanitarian needs, you know, to ship you know,
goods services, medical ship, you know, victims all around, five
them around. There's a number of things that could be used.
And either way he would come out looking, you know, incredible.
So I think it's a win win if it does
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go through. I think you should go through the proper channels.
But the fact that everybody's calling him a dictator again,
you know, they're all, you know, coming down on him,
and he accepting business. Let's say it, every president, every president,
for the most part, they all accept lavish gifts. I
saw the CNN report from twenty twenty three where they
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CNN kind of came down hard on the Bidens for
accepting what you get a twenty thousand dollars diamond from
India and he got a bunch of you know, several
you know, I know that at a total one hundred
and thirty two thousand dollars in gifts. I know it's
not four hundred million or billion whatever this thing costs.
But and ultimately did what did they do? They covered
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themselves and said they donated it to the archives. I
don't think you should put it a plane. I don't
think you should, you know, retire it and put it
in some climb of archives. If he does accept it
and it get sanctioned, there's a lot of good that
can be done with the use of that plane, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's interesting. By the way, the Globe tomorrow is going
to I sort of read part of the piece that
you'll see the Globe tomorrow. Trump's plan to accept a
luxury Katari plane is facing backlash from Magan Democrats alike.
And they quote Laura Luma, who never quoted positively before.
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I'm so disappointed, But it's the only time Laura Lula
will be hurt, saying it would be such a stain
of the administration anyway.
Speaker 10 (24:11):
Yeah, but again they keep saying, but they can't. But
I love how they keep spending this giving it to him.
It's being given to the government, you know, I mean, yeah,
he loves to play with the media and get them
all riled up, and you know, do the Sam Snead
comment and you know allude to you know, yeah, yeah,
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But in the end it is a gift to the
United States. All Right, I got you, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I've got you in there. Hey, Joe. For those of
us in the audience who do do not know this,
they can listen to our podcast at nightside Underman dot
com and thank you very much for getting your exercise in,
uh and getting your steps. Are you one of these
guys who tries to get the six thousand steps every day?
I think that's the figure that a lot.
Speaker 10 (24:58):
I got fifteen thousand in today over six miles. Good
I hold loop Boston, Cambridge back.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You know, well, you got the good weather coming forward
from now on, you got hopefully nothing but good weather.
Joke state, stay healthy, stay in shape. Great, great, Thank
thanks Dan, good night, Let's keep rolling. You're going to
go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill, love to know what
you think on this one. What do you think?
Speaker 10 (25:22):
Hey, I like what that last gentleman said.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Dan.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
I'm with him on that. He made a lot of sense.
Let me just make a couple of comments there. Uh,
has anybody heard anything in the news the last two
or three days about Garcia down in Al Salvador. It's
it's amazing how these legacy uh so called journalists.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, they kind of forgot about forgot about this gentleman,
the Maryland dad.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Yeah, the Maryland dad. Now when they found when when
they when they finally found out that the lady okay,
the wife uh has got pictures of her you know,
wounds and all that. Boy, they dropped that real quick.
And the other thing. The other thing is is uh
this aircraft that that uh and I think part of
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it is is that he's uh, he's just uh, you know,
trolling people. But listen, so so he's going to get
a free aircraft and we can he once we get it,
but he can we can use it any way we
want to. Uh, A brand new seven forty seven. I
looked it up today, a brand new seven forty seven
from Boning, Okay, cost about six hundred about six anywhere
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between six hundred and and eight hundred uh.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Uh was it?
Speaker 10 (26:41):
Let me say? Six hundred billion?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Billion? Yeah, I assure you have a couple of those.
Do you have a couple of those in your garage?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
No?
Speaker 10 (26:52):
No, but but uh so, But but anyways, so so
we we can get a free a free seven forty seven.
The one he's flying around in is about forty years old.
I guess this one here is only about four years old.
But so we can get that and we can use
it anyway we want to. Okay, that's that's Trump over
here on the right. Okay, now on the left hand side. Okay,
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we got Biden and his guys who left, Okay, who
just left about at least okay, at least ten billion
dollars worth of aircraft, most of them being brand new,
some of them brand new Blackhawks. Kyle was all kinds
of helicopters.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think it was much more than that. I saw
figures as high as eighty two billion dollars.
Speaker 10 (27:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable, Dan. But anyways, out
of that eighty billion, I'm saying about at least ten
billion of it was aircraft, and just left him and
left him to uh to the enemy. Okay over there
in the sands.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Well, the teleban that they didn't they don't have that
hopefully they don't know how to fly that stuff. But
you're right, and that was, of course, when they made
the mistake of of leaving Bagram Air Base. That stuff
should have been destroyed before we.
Speaker 10 (28:09):
Left boxes, yes, absolutely, But here here, here's Trump.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
And by the way, not one one upper level military officer,
to the best of my knowledge, and I stand corrected here,
there was not one military officer who was fired over
that debacle, which also, of course included the deaths of
thirteen US military.
Speaker 10 (28:34):
Service that those are the men and women who paid
for that blunder. But another thing is Dan right now, Okay,
I've seen more news on TV okay about Diddy, Puff Daddy,
Puff Diddy. Okay, Now.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I think I think it's I think Puff Daddy's a different,
different dude. I think I don't want to just did
just Diddy.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
Okay, Okay, I'm seeing all that stuff about him and
and and and here's the correlation. Okay, Okay, He's dragging
his poor girl through this hallways in Los Angeles at
a hotel. This happened years ago, that that video has
been out for a long time. And now the correlation
between that him beating up his girlfriend and okay, the
(29:20):
father from UHL from Maryland beating up his wife. Okay,
there's that correlation. American people, Why I'm buying this crap.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
All right, Bill, you pulled a lot of thoughts together.
A great call. Thank you much, all righty much stock
Soon we take a break, coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
All right, back to the phones we go. Let's keep
rolling here. We got a lot of folks calling in.
Let me go to Joe and Lynn. Joe, you were
next on Nightside.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Welcome, hey, Dan, Thank you for taking my call. I
was discussing with my friend in Brighton earlier today, and
I don't think he should take the plane. Those people
don't like him. I'm disappointed now. He shouldn't build his
own plane, retire that plane if they want to, but
don't take a plane from another country which doesn't like us.
I think that just causing a lot of problems. You
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don't know what bugs are hidden in any way. So
that's how I feel. What you feel.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Directed to the point. I think that what amazes me
is how many different controversies he wants to be swirling
around him. Most presidents like to sort of have fewer controversies.
He seems to.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
Yeah, he has a ton, he has a ton.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But he also seems to invite them. It's like one
just follows upon the other. I mean, he's dealing with
a lot of important issues. I mean, I don't look
at what he's doing on the border as a controversy.
It is controversial, but it's something that he said he
would do. That's one thing.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
But two, I'm glad doing that.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, yeah, and I am as well. Okay, but there
are other things. The idea of well we're going to
look at Greenland, we're going to look at Canada.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
I mean, that's crazy. Leave them alone.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, exactly, exactly unnecessary. It's almost like unforced errors in tennis. Joe.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
We agree on something, Dan Harvard. I kind of feel
he's in the right and that they should have no
prejudices towards any race or anything.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Of course they shouldn't have. But I also think that
he should be small enough to be able at some
point to say, Okay, I've turned them around on this,
and sometimes it's it's important to uh to accept the
victory or them around.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
My question, how do you turn them around?
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Dan?
Speaker 8 (31:42):
How do you turn those people?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Turned them around a lot. I think that the beginning
with the resignation of Claudine Gay I think that Harvard
has turned quite a bit, to be honest with you.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Well, I hope so, because he just took some more
money away from them today.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I heard he's very cross.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Thanks, thanks, thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Good night. Let me go next to Mary in Stoneham. Mary,
you are next on nightside. How are you?
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Oh, thank you very much. I have a couple of thoughts,
and oh, I'm older than dua and I should side
my retirement is something. He said, something like, you know,
this is the time to buy. That's nice, but already
I've gone from one hundred thousand that I worked very
high for fifty years to eighty thousand. I can't afford
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that because he doesn't have the experience of living.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
I guess your favorite.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I hope you're not selling Mary, hold it. No, I'm
not giving you financial advice, but I would suggest that
when the market took a big hit in April, resist
the urge to sell, because over the long term, Oh.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Card, I'm so glad you said that.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
No, i'mous, I'm serious.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
My grandson said exactly what you've said.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I mean, thank you, because because what happens is they're
the wise guys out there who look for the market dip.
They know that people are going to sell and then
they buy, you know, they buy low and yeah, no yet,
I will bet you this, Mary, I don't know when.
Do you know when do you get your referral? Do
you get a monthly statement?
Speaker 10 (33:20):
Yes? When do you see?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Right? But I will bet you that if you your
next monthly statement. Look, the market has come back since April,
since April second, and the market and so if there
might have been a period where you're one hundred thousand
dollars nest Egg had had reduced, But don't look at
it every day because.
Speaker 10 (33:44):
It's like I won't.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
Oh, I just wanted to say about Trump. Absolutely not.
I've worked for government all the way through. It was
a law not more than twenty five dollars. I looked
at the library and can and skid is the pace
Now you can get Justin's placement.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
Two.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
You do not accept more than twenty five dollars, right,
all right?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
As a gift?
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Yep, Absolutely one of those things. And wait a second,
he's getting that gas juggler oil or something to run wrong? Now,
my lord, you know it's bigger than anything. No, I
I just don't think it looks good even if he's
really room with that guy.
Speaker 10 (34:29):
We don't know that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
We did not know that.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
And thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Mary, thank you.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Okay, you have a good day and keep your show.
I turn it on and I've got a good story, lady,
and tell you about it. O T bye.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Thanks Mary, appreciate it very much.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
You love by.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I got to get at least one more in here.
Let me go next to Mike and Beverley. Mike here
next door nights.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I go ahead, Mike, Hey, Dan good, can hear anybody?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I can hear you, perfec, go right. I know you're
a big Trump guy. I'll be interested in what you
think about this.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
It's not going to happen. Then it's all the big
smoke screen. Trump's playing everyone's cords and so. Browling can
move because EP on the plane in the last term, okay,
and pulling is behind like two or three, probably four
years behind schedule as far as uh the their plane
things go. You know, that's all it's about. And people
(35:27):
are freaking out. And point of information, Dan, we have
paid that country. I heard the figures out a little
while ago on military land and some other numbers. I
can't in the exact number because I'm on the road.
But fire seeing that plane money. We've paid that money
on other things also, So that's the point of information.
Speaker 11 (35:48):
Okay, all right, But the other thing, Dan, listen, can
you focus on Masters issues please and stop the Trump stuff.
Masters has enough issues going on a Master, were the
two politicians taking illegal money the same mar Haley.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Gas on the ass on the on the sanctuary stopped.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Like you listened to the show a lot. I mean
during the night, Joe, during the nine o'clock hour tonight,
I hope you were listening. We talked about Boston City
Councilor Fernandez Anderson, who was indicted and has pled guilty
to federal crimes, to a federal crime, and she has
(36:29):
as yet not resigned her seat on the city council.
We had we had ed Flynn with us, who tomorrow
he had another councilor going to offer a resolution in
which they want that matter of discuss. So yeah, we
talked about that in the in the nine o'clock hour.
We've talked about all sorts of Massachusetts issues. But at
the same time, I can't ignore federal issues because my
(36:52):
audience is is larger than just Massachusetts and just New
England and most you know, again, you may want me
only to focus on mistakes that more healing makes, but
or mistakes that that Ed Markey makes. But I'm I
have to take a broader view here. I I you know, please,
(37:15):
I don't want to lose you as a listener.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
But at the same time, damn, because I'm getting tired
of it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Because well, if I got to lose you as a listener, Mike,
I'm going to lose you as a listener. But I'm
not going to spend every night talking about We deal
with a lot of issues on this program. It is
a white swath. We do twenty hours a week here
on Nightside, Mike.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
And yeah, I know, but.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
I can't work. I can't do it again, only work
later on later on.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Well why did I change what I'll do this, Mike,
is I will change my programming to accommodate you. So
what I will do is I will do all of
the Trump issues. What hours do you want me to
do those? What?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
What hours do you want at Josh Show? You've been
done a long time.
Speaker 11 (38:02):
I understand that.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
I just get you know, the whole sanctuary stuff is
really boiling me. And then I run out of it, Beday.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Do you know how many hours? Do you know how
many hours I have done on sanctuary stuff? Everything from
you know, for the Martha's Vineyard, Uh, situation where they
threw people off Martha's Vineyard. You've listened to my show
enough to understand where I feel.
Speaker 11 (38:24):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Yeah, I just don't understand that people in the state
on the situation. I mean, you know, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I got it. I got it, Mike, Thank you much.
Drive carefully, Okay, thanks very much. A right, Okay, we'll
take a quick break. I'm coming back with Jerry and
Jim and Rick. They will lead us off. Uh in
that well, gonna go Jerry, Rick and Jim leading off.
I have one line at six one, seven, five, four
to ten thirty, one line at six one, seven, nine, three,
(38:51):
one ten thirty. I get requests all the time, do
this story, do that story. Look, I have to do
what I think is best for my show in my
aut audience, and that's believe me. I have more people
making suggestions, which I appreciate, and many of those suggestions
we incorporate into the show. Anyway, feel free to join
(39:11):
the conversation back on nightside, right after this,
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Conston's new video.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Well, as so often happens, President Donald Trump finds himself
once again surrounded in a bit of a controversy. Uh,
this is kind of a big controversy. It involves a
four hundred million dollar airplane. That's a big plane. The
(00:28):
government of Qatar has apparently decided that it would like
to gift to the United States. This a seven seven Now,
according to I want to make sure I get all
(00:50):
of this correct here, Okay, I believe this is the
Washington Post. Yes, according to the Washington Post, the luxury
Jeff Jet was moved five weeks ago, so we're talking
about sometime in early April to San Antonio International Airport,
(01:10):
The headline says, suggesting that preparations for improvements to the
plane might already be underway. On Monday of this week,
the President praised Cutter for offering his administration a free
luxury jet, but current in former US military, defense and
Secret Service officials said he'll likely have to waive existing
(01:31):
security specifications to be able to use the plane. Yesterday,
he was asked about this at a signing who was
signing some executive orders and the question here, and Donald
Trump's been through a couple of impeachments, and there is
(01:54):
a clause in the US constitutions called the Emolument's Clause,
which says that, you know, presidents and public officials cannot
accept gifts from foreign governments. But Trump's position is this
(02:14):
is not a gift to him. And although there's probably
a lot of questions still to be answered here, the
back story is that there apparently are two air Force one. Now,
the Air Force one is never air Force one unless
the president is flying on the plane. So if the
(02:36):
plane is flown from I don't know, point Aid from
Los Angeles to Washington and presidents it may be a
plane that could be air Force one, but the president's
presence on the plane is what signifies it as Air
Force one. There apparently are two planes that during his
(02:56):
first administration he signed some contracts with Boeing to have
replacement planes, and those have fallen behind schedule, So I'm
sure he's frustrated. That's a little bit of the backstory.
And Cutter, which is very wealthy Middle Eastern country, which
(03:18):
has been friendly to many of the overtures of the
Trump administration, including the Abraham accords in which Middle Eastern
countries would start to do business with Israel, which are wonderful,
wonderful agreements that might eventually actually lay the groundwork for
(03:41):
actual peace in the Middle East, particularly if Saudi Arabi
would eventually get on board. So they you know from well,
this is what the president said. Let's listen to what
the president said about it. He was asked about it yesterday.
He is claiming it is not a gift to him,
It is a gift from the government of Cutter to
(04:01):
the Department of Defense, and that the plane would eventually
be used by him in his capacity as president. This
is cut number one. Please, rob President, Why you say
to people who.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
View got luxury jet as suppose it'll get to you?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Why not leave it?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You're ABC fake news, right because only ABC, well a
few of you would, let me tell you, you should
be embarrassed to ask him that question. They're giving us
a free jet. I could say, no, no, no, don't
give us. I want to pay you a million or
four hundred million or whatever it is. Or I could
say thank you very much. You know, there was an
(04:40):
old golfer named Sam Sneve. Did you ever hear in
one ad two tournament. Was a great golfer, and he
had a motto. When they gave you a putt, you
say thank you very much, You pick up your ball,
and you walk to the next hole.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
A lot of people are stupid.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
They say no, no, I insist start putting it, and
then they put it and they miss it and their
partner gets angry.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
You know what, Remember that Sam sneed.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
When they give you a putt, you pick it up,
and you walk to the next hall, and you say
thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And of course there was more to the answer. So
let's finish this off with cut one a.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Ruby working at this and say, have you ever been
given a gift worth millions of dollars in an OxyS?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Not a gift to me, It's a gift to the
Department of Defense. And you should know better because you've
been embarrassed enough, and so has your network.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Your network is a disaster. ABC is a disaster.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
So I think we understand that there's a couple of
interpretations here. Now believe it or not. I should say
not believe it or not, but believe it because it's true.
Many allies of President Trump are uncomfortable with this set
(05:58):
of circumstances. They are uncomfortable with accepting funds of this magnitude,
a gift of this magnitude, I should say, they are
uncomfortable with security concerns that could exist. I mean, do
(06:22):
you want the president of the United States flying around
in a plane that you'd have to, I guess make
sure that there were no bugs on it. I don't
understand why. I can understand why it might. Apparently this
is a really a big time luxury jet. Okay, this
(06:47):
is not a small jet by any stretch of the imagination.
So the question is that I ask you, I don't
I'd love to know if I would assume most critic
of Donald Trump would see this as echoes of past
controversies and just another moment in time where Donald Trump
(07:10):
is walking too close to the line. But at the
same time, there are people who were allies of his
who have at least raised concerns about this. This is
an article out of the Boston Globe from earlier today.
Mega Allies criticized Trump's planning to accept four hundred million
dollar jet from cutter As Air Force one. They quote,
(07:33):
amongst others, and some of these are clearly critics, and
some are not. Senate Majority leader of Chuck Schumer says
President Trump's pension for corruption and grift has risen to
a new label, a new level, with the news his
presidency is for sale. If you happen to have four
(07:56):
hundred million dollars, that's Chuck Schumer. Meanwhile, as we just heard,
Trump told reporters that the aircraft would be eventually decommissioned
and placed in his future presidential library, and he said
he would not use it after leaving office. Air Force
one is a symbol of America. Republican Senator Lindsay Graham
(08:18):
of South Carolina said, when it lands or flies, it
is America flying and landing. And I want to make
sure that this whole thing is kosher. Time will tell.
Ted Cruz raised concerns that accepting the free jet from
Cutter posed a significant espionage and surveillance problems. Senate Majority
Leader John Toon today told reporters there will be plenty
(08:40):
of scrutiny on Trump's decision to accept the Boeing seven
forty seven jet from Cutter. I don't think there's anything
official out there. This is hypothetical, Tune said Tuesday. If
and when it's no longer hypothetical. I can ensure you
there'll be plenty of scrutiny of whatever that arrangement might
look like. And Senator Ran paula Kentucky, a vocal critic
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of Trump's tariff tariff policies, said he thought that Trump
planned to accept the luxury jet from Cutter was a mistake.
Whether it's improper or not, I don't think it's worth it.
Rie and Paul said on Tuesday anyway, Lisa Mkowski or
Alaska Republicans, says she has lots of questions about whether
(09:23):
accepting the jet would violate the Constitutions and Molument's clause
that provision profitces prohibits US government officials from receiving gifts
from any king, prince, or foreign state without congressional approval.
So I think what President Trump should do is seek
congressional approval. As a matter of fact, even one of
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his most ardent supporters, Laura Lumer, who The Globe describes
as a right wing activist and Trump's supporter. She's from
Colorado member of the House, was also quick to criticize
the office, saying it would be such a stain on
the administration. Loomer is quoted as saying I love President Trump.
I would take a bullet for him, but I have
(10:05):
to call a spade a spade. We cannot accept a
four hundred million dollar gift from jehardiest and suits. Loomer
wrote on x I'm so disappointed. So that's one final one.
Republican Senator Kevin Kramer, he's a conservative from North Dakota,
defended the gift but said the US government would need
to quote do the most thorough security sweep we've ever done.
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My sense is people want to support Donald Trump around
the world because he's engaged with them. Kramer said on Tuesday,
I don't know if that's a bad thing, as long
as there's no sort of quid pro quo attached to it,
or an expectation that you're going to get preferential treatment
of some sort six one, seven, two, five, four ten
thirty six one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty. Your thoughts,
(10:55):
your thoughts? Should Donald Trump accept this gift? Accept this
gift from Cutter a four hundred million dollar jet. Join
the conversation. We'll be right back on night side. It's
you and me for the rest of the evening. Let's
get it going right after.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
This Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
By the way, the hits just keep on coming here.
The Red Sox just lost nine to eight in extra
intings in Detroit. They have gone up in the top
of the elevens. I think got up eight to six
on a two run homer by one of the Red Sox.
(11:46):
And wow, the hits just keep coming here for Boston
sports teams. Let's get to the phones see what people
think on this one. I think it's an interesting issue.
It's it's almost as if Donald Trump is this juggler
and he's got fifty balls in the air and he's
(12:07):
got to have fifty one. Let's go to John and Boston. Hey, John,
you were first this hour and Nightside. Love to know
if you're a Trump supporter generally and what you think
of this idea.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Well, Dan, I think it's interesting because the United States
accept the Statue of Liberty. I believe it's from France,
and that would probably cost a lot more than that
particular jet. Every year, Boston accepts a Christmas tree from
Halifax Nova Scotia.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, that's not a bad point.
Speaker 6 (12:35):
The company has no problem accepting gifts. I think it's
I believe it seems like it's a gift. So Biden
has allowed millions of people to come here legally cost
it billions of dollars in the United States, many deaths
of Americans by drug over doses and murders and rape.
So now I don't think the president should be used
for the President's air Force one, but maybe they could
(12:57):
use the jet to bring the illegals that came here
from the Middle East back to the Middle East. That's
what I think they should use the jets for.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
All right, Well, that's that's an interesting take. Let me
ask you this. I'm assuming I'm gonna make the assumption
that the the offer of the plane is in good faith.
I mean, they're not uh sending it to do any mischief.
I mean to you know, you'd have to check it
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for security. I assume there's you know, who knows who
had possession of it at some point. What could be
implanted there? Why do you think President Trump seems to
always be willing to go through these these battles that
are a little irrelevant to what his purpose is, and
(13:48):
that is to get the economy back on track and
get the border closed, and you know, you get the
big beautiful tax package, you get, get all all the
things done that he promised, and all of a sudden
this comes in as another distraction. Why why does do
(14:08):
you think he's he's willing to engage in these distractions.
He seems to enjoy it.
Speaker 6 (14:13):
But what do you mean by a battle? Why is
it a battle? There if a country offers a point,
and what's I don't see, what's the big deal someone
comes over to you at a restaurant, office you or
at appetizer. I mean, where's the battle that say? I'm
a little confused.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Well, well, one one, I'm not the president of the
United States, so the emolument's clause or things like that
doesn't impact me. All I'm just saying is that he's
got enough fights on his hands. And when you hear
did you did you hear all the conservative senators Ted
Cruz and Ran Paul and others raising concerns and issues.
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I mean, John toon, you know, I just did.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
It's pretty simple to just use it to bring it
legal aliens back to the countries they came from. I
don't know, It's just it's a it's a free gift
from a country. And I don't think Donald Trump should
be in his personal collection, but use it as a
free gift to the United States and bring the illegals
back then there.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I guess that would be one way to diffuse it,
but I'm not sure that that would necessarily diffuse it either.
But that's okay, John, You're thinking outside the box, and
I like that.
Speaker 7 (15:16):
What.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
I think the media is having a lot of fun
with it. It's in terms of nuclear war between India
and Pakistan, Dan and everything that's going on with Russia Ukraine.
The media is having a lot of fun with this.
I think the media is creating a distraction here. And
it's like with the issues we got going on with
the economy and people trying to afford houses here in Massachusetts,
it's almost a non issue. It's like, except the plane,
(15:39):
don't have the president flying in it for his own
personal safety. I don't think it should be used that,
But use it to bring illegals back to their countries.
Speaker 8 (15:46):
They can get it from you.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
I got you suggestion. Let's see what others have to say.
Fair enough, Thanks John, Thanks then as always appreciated. Six
one seven, two, five, four ten thirty one line there
one line at six one seven nine, Well John's thinking
outside the box. He's saying, accept it, but use it
for different purpose. Let me go to Christine and debt him. Christine,
(16:07):
what do you think about this?
Speaker 9 (16:10):
I don't think you should accept it? I I I mean,
what do they want? What do they want in return?
That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking this is a broad
I I really do. I don't think he should.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Okay, well, I think that a lot of a lot
of the uh, the Democrats are saying, you know what,
this is a quid pro quo. Uh, They're gonna want
something down the line. At the same time, as much
as four hundred million dollars means to you know, people
like you and me, probably to the government of Cutter.
(16:45):
It's not a big drop. That's not a it's a
it's a it's a big drop. But it's there's there's
a lot of drops in that bucket, you know what
I'm saying. It's not that's not the end of the world.
Maybe they're just looking for for for our continued friendship.
I mean that if I was the head.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
Of Cutter, I don't trust that I did that. I
don't know, Dann, like you said, that plan could be
bounds or running that I would trust it.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Well, it could be worse than bugged. I mean, you
could always have a device in any plane. That Rob
was saying during the break that if there are big
screen TVs, you'd have to take those big screen TVs
apart piece by piece and make sure that there wasn't
something hidden in there. There could be. Yeah, they could
be activated remotely. I mean, I know that that sort
(17:33):
of sounds like something from the movies. But hey, we've
all that, you know, so many things are possible. Let
me ask you the question, why do you think Donald Trump,
why would Donald Trump not say to them, look, thank
you very much. I so appreciate your offer. It shows
me what great friends you are to our country. Thank
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you for what you've done on the Abraham Accords. But
I'm not in a position that I can accept that
behalf of you know, as the president of the United States.
Speaker 9 (18:02):
And you know, because to me, Donald Trump is a dictator.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Okay, so you think he would really like to have this,
uh and when his presidency ends or whatever, that he'd
like to make sure it's part Okay, fair enough, all right,
all right, Christine, I got your I got your point
of view in here. Loud and clearly. Thank you so
much as always appreciate your call.
Speaker 9 (18:27):
Thank you. Okay, good bye.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Talk to you and Christine. Have a great night. Good night. Okay,
only one line at six one, seven, two, four, ten thirty.
Let's keep it rolling. I think we're going to have
an interesting another ninety minutes to talk about this. Love
to get your point of view. Coming back on night
Side right after this.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
All right. During the break, Rob was saying, and again,
I think it's a good point. I didn't want to
debate John, but statue liberty a little different than an airplane.
It was a gift from UH from France, which which
we appreciated. The tree that we get from what's at
Nova Scotia every year. It's it's just it's it's not
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planted and doesn't go to the government's backyard. It's planted
on the common for all to see, as of course,
is the Statue of Liberty. But that's oh, you know,
different points and again the idea here is to is
to get as many different points of view as possible.
Let's go to Joe and came or see what Joe says, Hey, Joe,
what's your thought on this. I'll be interested to see
where you come down.
Speaker 10 (19:34):
Honestly, Dan, I thank you for taking my call. I
don't I don't know what's problem with it.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
I don't, okay, So let me when you say, when
you say you don't have a problem with it, so
you don't have a problem with the plane coming here.
It would have to be certainly a humongous, a huge
security suite, would have to be done on a lane
that came from outside the country. Okay, it would become
(20:04):
Air Force one, and then according to the president, it
would it would be decommissioned at the end of his
term and then would become a centerpiece or a part
of his presidential library. And that's what he's saying would
happen to It's you're okay with that?
Speaker 10 (20:23):
I think, well, no, when you say that's what he said,
I think and I think he's saying a lot of
what he's saying to get under the you know Democrats
skins and a lot of these you know mainstream media
news agencies. I mean, so you think he's.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Trolling, He's I mean, I think he's trolling on Greenberg,
on Greenland and on Canada.
Speaker 10 (20:48):
I think serious here, Yeah, no, And I was listening
to a podcasts earlier when I was walking around, you know,
getting steps in the last week's podcast about Alcatraz. So
he was trolling them on them to a certain degree,
I think he is. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Thank you, by the way listening to the podcast. I
appreciate that that's a loyal listener.
Speaker 8 (21:07):
Right ahead, I got.
Speaker 10 (21:09):
My steps in for two hours Boston, Cambridge and back,
and I was listened to all your podcast from last week.
So yeah, you're welcome. So yeah, I do think to
a degree now, you know, if you break it down,
you didn't really think about it.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Right.
Speaker 10 (21:24):
Worst case scenario, he accepts this gift, this gift, Now,
I do agree. I do agree that he should get
its sanctioned and get permission from Congress. This way, he's
he's off the hook. If they approve it, he's off
the hook and he doesn't have to worry about it.
So you know, if he doesn't end up using it,
(21:47):
obviously has to go through the massive security sweeps. Worst
case scenario, he accepts it, he doesn't use it. I
do like your earlier caller, John that suggested alternative alternative uses.
I would go step beyond just shipping out all the
illegal or the violent criminals. But I mean, if you
think about the possibilities, it could be used for all
sorts of humanitarian you know purposes, you know, natural disasters
(22:11):
here in the United States. It could be used for
worldwide global humanitarian needs, you know, to ship you know,
goods services, medical ship, you know, victims all around, five
them around. There's a number of things that could be used.
And either way he would come out looking, you know, incredible.
So I think it's a win win if it does
(22:31):
go through. I think you should go through the proper channels.
But the fact that everybody's calling him a dictator again,
you know, they're all, you know, coming down on him,
and he accepting business. Let's say it, every president, every president,
for the most part, they all accept lavish gifts. I
saw the CNN report from twenty twenty three where they
(22:53):
CNN kind of came down hard on the Bidens for
accepting what you get a twenty thousand dollars diamond from
India and he got a bunch of you know, several
you know, I know that at a total one hundred
and thirty two thousand dollars in gifts. I know it's
not four hundred million or billion whatever this thing costs.
But and ultimately did what did they do? They covered
(23:14):
themselves and said they donated it to the archives. I
don't think you should put it a plane. I don't
think you should, you know, retire it and put it
in some climb of archives. If he does accept it
and it get sanctioned, there's a lot of good that
can be done with the use of that plane, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
It's interesting. By the way, the Globe tomorrow is going
to I sort of read part of the piece that
you'll see the Globe tomorrow. Trump's plan to accept a
luxury Katari plane is facing backlash from Magan Democrats alike.
And they quote Laura Luma, who never quoted positively before.
(23:57):
I'm so disappointed, But it's the only time Laura Lula
will be hurt, saying it would be such a stain
of the administration anyway.
Speaker 10 (24:11):
Yeah, but again they keep saying, but they can't. But
I love how they keep spending this giving it to him.
It's being given to the government, you know, I mean, yeah,
he loves to play with the media and get them
all riled up, and you know, do the Sam Snead
comment and you know allude to you know, yeah, yeah,
(24:31):
But in the end it is a gift to the
United States. All Right, I got you, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I've got you in there. Hey, Joe. For those of
us in the audience who do do not know this,
they can listen to our podcast at nightside Underman dot
com and thank you very much for getting your exercise in,
uh and getting your steps. Are you one of these
guys who tries to get the six thousand steps every day?
I think that's the figure that a lot.
Speaker 10 (24:58):
I got fifteen thousand in today over six miles. Good
I hold loop Boston, Cambridge back.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
You know, well, you got the good weather coming forward
from now on, you got hopefully nothing but good weather.
Joke state, stay healthy, stay in shape. Great, great, Thank
thanks Dan, good night, Let's keep rolling. You're going to
go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill, love to know what
you think on this one. What do you think?
Speaker 10 (25:22):
Hey, I like what that last gentleman said.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Dan.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
I'm with him on that. He made a lot of sense.
Let me just make a couple of comments there. Uh,
has anybody heard anything in the news the last two
or three days about Garcia down in Al Salvador. It's
it's amazing how these legacy uh so called journalists.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, they kind of forgot about forgot about this gentleman,
the Maryland dad.
Speaker 10 (25:49):
Yeah, the Maryland dad. Now when they found when when
they when they finally found out that the lady okay,
the wife uh has got pictures of her you know,
wounds and all that. Boy, they dropped that real quick.
And the other thing. The other thing is is uh
this aircraft that that uh and I think part of
(26:11):
it is is that he's uh, he's just uh, you know,
trolling people. But listen, so so he's going to get
a free aircraft and we can he once we get it,
but he can we can use it any way we
want to. Uh, A brand new seven forty seven. I
looked it up today, a brand new seven forty seven
from Boning, Okay, cost about six hundred about six anywhere
(26:36):
between six hundred and and eight hundred uh.
Speaker 8 (26:40):
Uh was it?
Speaker 10 (26:41):
Let me say? Six hundred billion?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Billion? Yeah, I assure you have a couple of those.
Do you have a couple of those in your garage?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
No?
Speaker 10 (26:52):
No, but but uh so, But but anyways, so so
we we can get a free a free seven forty seven.
The one he's flying around in is about forty years old.
I guess this one here is only about four years old.
But so we can get that and we can use
it anyway we want to. Okay, that's that's Trump over
here on the right. Okay, now on the left hand side. Okay,
(27:15):
we got Biden and his guys who left, Okay, who
just left about at least okay, at least ten billion
dollars worth of aircraft, most of them being brand new,
some of them brand new Blackhawks. Kyle was all kinds
of helicopters.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
I think it was much more than that. I saw
figures as high as eighty two billion dollars.
Speaker 10 (27:38):
Yeah, yeah, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable, Dan. But anyways, out
of that eighty billion, I'm saying about at least ten
billion of it was aircraft, and just left him and
left him to uh to the enemy. Okay over there
in the sands.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Well, the teleban that they didn't they don't have that
hopefully they don't know how to fly that stuff. But
you're right, and that was, of course, when they made
the mistake of of leaving Bagram Air Base. That stuff
should have been destroyed before we.
Speaker 10 (28:09):
Left boxes, yes, absolutely, But here here, here's Trump.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
And by the way, not one one upper level military officer,
to the best of my knowledge, and I stand corrected here,
there was not one military officer who was fired over
that debacle, which also, of course included the deaths of
thirteen US military.
Speaker 10 (28:34):
Service that those are the men and women who paid
for that blunder. But another thing is Dan right now, Okay,
I've seen more news on TV okay about Diddy, Puff Daddy,
Puff Diddy. Okay, Now.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
I think I think it's I think Puff Daddy's a different,
different dude. I think I don't want to just did
just Diddy.
Speaker 10 (29:00):
Okay, Okay, I'm seeing all that stuff about him and
and and and here's the correlation. Okay, Okay, He's dragging
his poor girl through this hallways in Los Angeles at
a hotel. This happened years ago, that that video has
been out for a long time. And now the correlation
between that him beating up his girlfriend and okay, the
(29:20):
father from UHL from Maryland beating up his wife. Okay,
there's that correlation. American people, Why I'm buying this crap.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
All right, Bill, you pulled a lot of thoughts together.
A great call. Thank you much, all righty much stock
Soon we take a break, coming right back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
It's Nightside with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
All right, back to the phones we go. Let's keep
rolling here. We got a lot of folks calling in.
Let me go to Joe and Lynn. Joe, you were
next on Nightside.
Speaker 8 (29:52):
Welcome, hey, Dan, Thank you for taking my call. I
was discussing with my friend in Brighton earlier today, and
I don't think he should take the plane. Those people
don't like him. I'm disappointed now. He shouldn't build his
own plane, retire that plane if they want to, but
don't take a plane from another country which doesn't like us.
I think that just causing a lot of problems. You
(30:16):
don't know what bugs are hidden in any way. So
that's how I feel. What you feel.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Directed to the point. I think that what amazes me
is how many different controversies he wants to be swirling
around him. Most presidents like to sort of have fewer controversies.
He seems to.
Speaker 8 (30:40):
Yeah, he has a ton, he has a ton.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
But he also seems to invite them. It's like one
just follows upon the other. I mean, he's dealing with
a lot of important issues. I mean, I don't look
at what he's doing on the border as a controversy.
It is controversial, but it's something that he said he
would do. That's one thing.
Speaker 8 (30:58):
But two, I'm glad doing that.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, yeah, and I am as well. Okay, but there
are other things. The idea of well we're going to
look at Greenland, we're going to look at Canada.
Speaker 8 (31:09):
I mean, that's crazy. Leave them alone.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Yeah, exactly, exactly unnecessary. It's almost like unforced errors in tennis. Joe.
Speaker 8 (31:17):
We agree on something, Dan Harvard. I kind of feel
he's in the right and that they should have no
prejudices towards any race or anything.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Of course they shouldn't have. But I also think that
he should be small enough to be able at some
point to say, Okay, I've turned them around on this,
and sometimes it's it's important to uh to accept the
victory or them around.
Speaker 8 (31:40):
My question, how do you turn them around?
Speaker 10 (31:41):
Dan?
Speaker 8 (31:42):
How do you turn those people?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Turned them around a lot. I think that the beginning
with the resignation of Claudine Gay I think that Harvard
has turned quite a bit, to be honest with you.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Well, I hope so, because he just took some more
money away from them today.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
I heard he's very cross.
Speaker 8 (32:00):
Thanks, thanks, thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Good night. Let me go next to Mary in Stoneham. Mary,
you are next on nightside. How are you?
Speaker 7 (32:08):
Oh, thank you very much. I have a couple of thoughts,
and oh, I'm older than dua and I should side
my retirement is something. He said, something like, you know,
this is the time to buy. That's nice, but already
I've gone from one hundred thousand that I worked very
high for fifty years to eighty thousand. I can't afford
(32:31):
that because he doesn't have the experience of living.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
I guess your favorite.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
I hope you're not selling Mary, hold it. No, I'm
not giving you financial advice, but I would suggest that
when the market took a big hit in April, resist
the urge to sell, because over the long term, Oh.
Speaker 7 (32:53):
Card, I'm so glad you said that.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
No, i'mous, I'm serious.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
My grandson said exactly what you've said.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I mean, thank you, because because what happens is they're
the wise guys out there who look for the market dip.
They know that people are going to sell and then
they buy, you know, they buy low and yeah, no yet,
I will bet you this, Mary, I don't know when.
Do you know when do you get your referral? Do
you get a monthly statement?
Speaker 10 (33:20):
Yes? When do you see?
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Right? But I will bet you that if you your
next monthly statement. Look, the market has come back since April,
since April second, and the market and so if there
might have been a period where you're one hundred thousand
dollars nest Egg had had reduced, But don't look at
it every day because.
Speaker 10 (33:44):
It's like I won't.
Speaker 7 (33:46):
Oh, I just wanted to say about Trump. Absolutely not.
I've worked for government all the way through. It was
a law not more than twenty five dollars. I looked
at the library and can and skid is the pace
Now you can get Justin's placement.
Speaker 8 (34:02):
Two.
Speaker 7 (34:03):
You do not accept more than twenty five dollars, right,
all right?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
As a gift?
Speaker 7 (34:08):
Yep, Absolutely one of those things. And wait a second,
he's getting that gas juggler oil or something to run wrong? Now,
my lord, you know it's bigger than anything. No, I
I just don't think it looks good even if he's
really room with that guy.
Speaker 10 (34:29):
We don't know that.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
We did not know that.
Speaker 7 (34:32):
And thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Mary, thank you.
Speaker 7 (34:36):
Okay, you have a good day and keep your show.
I turn it on and I've got a good story, lady,
and tell you about it. O T bye.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Thanks Mary, appreciate it very much.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
You love by.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
I got to get at least one more in here.
Let me go next to Mike and Beverley. Mike here
next door nights.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
I go ahead, Mike, Hey, Dan good, can hear anybody?
Speaker 2 (34:59):
I can hear you, perfec, go right. I know you're
a big Trump guy. I'll be interested in what you
think about this.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
It's not going to happen. Then it's all the big
smoke screen. Trump's playing everyone's cords and so. Browling can
move because EP on the plane in the last term, okay,
and pulling is behind like two or three, probably four
years behind schedule as far as uh the their plane
things go. You know, that's all it's about. And people
(35:27):
are freaking out. And point of information, Dan, we have
paid that country. I heard the figures out a little
while ago on military land and some other numbers. I
can't in the exact number because I'm on the road.
But fire seeing that plane money. We've paid that money
on other things also, So that's the point of information.
Speaker 11 (35:48):
Okay, all right, But the other thing, Dan, listen, can
you focus on Masters issues please and stop the Trump stuff.
Masters has enough issues going on a Master, were the
two politicians taking illegal money the same mar Haley.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Gas on the ass on the on the sanctuary stopped.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Like you listened to the show a lot. I mean
during the night, Joe, during the nine o'clock hour tonight,
I hope you were listening. We talked about Boston City
Councilor Fernandez Anderson, who was indicted and has pled guilty
to federal crimes, to a federal crime, and she has
(36:29):
as yet not resigned her seat on the city council.
We had we had ed Flynn with us, who tomorrow
he had another councilor going to offer a resolution in
which they want that matter of discuss. So yeah, we
talked about that in the in the nine o'clock hour.
We've talked about all sorts of Massachusetts issues. But at
the same time, I can't ignore federal issues because my
(36:52):
audience is is larger than just Massachusetts and just New
England and most you know, again, you may want me
only to focus on mistakes that more healing makes, but
or mistakes that that Ed Markey makes. But I'm I
have to take a broader view here. I I you know, please,
(37:15):
I don't want to lose you as a listener.
Speaker 5 (37:17):
But at the same time, damn, because I'm getting tired
of it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Because well, if I got to lose you as a listener, Mike,
I'm going to lose you as a listener. But I'm
not going to spend every night talking about We deal
with a lot of issues on this program. It is
a white swath. We do twenty hours a week here
on Nightside, Mike.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
And yeah, I know, but.
Speaker 5 (37:39):
I can't work. I can't do it again, only work
later on later on.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Well why did I change what I'll do this, Mike,
is I will change my programming to accommodate you. So
what I will do is I will do all of
the Trump issues. What hours do you want me to
do those? What?
Speaker 5 (37:56):
What hours do you want at Josh Show? You've been
done a long time.
Speaker 11 (38:02):
I understand that.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
I just get you know, the whole sanctuary stuff is
really boiling me. And then I run out of it, Beday.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Do you know how many hours? Do you know how
many hours I have done on sanctuary stuff? Everything from
you know, for the Martha's Vineyard, Uh, situation where they
threw people off Martha's Vineyard. You've listened to my show
enough to understand where I feel.
Speaker 11 (38:24):
I get it.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Yeah, I just don't understand that people in the state
on the situation. I mean, you know, I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
I got it. I got it, Mike, Thank you much.
Drive carefully, Okay, thanks very much. A right, Okay, we'll
take a quick break. I'm coming back with Jerry and
Jim and Rick. They will lead us off. Uh in
that well, gonna go Jerry, Rick and Jim leading off.
I have one line at six one, seven, five, four
to ten thirty, one line at six one, seven, nine, three,
(38:51):
one ten thirty. I get requests all the time, do
this story, do that story. Look, I have to do
what I think is best for my show in my
aut audience, and that's believe me. I have more people
making suggestions, which I appreciate, and many of those suggestions
we incorporate into the show. Anyway, feel free to join
(39:11):
the conversation back on nightside, right after this,
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