June 5, 2025 • 38 mins
This week, President Trump reinstated a U.S. travel ban barring citizens of 12 countries from entering the U.S. Trump says the move was necessary to protect the country against “foreign terrorists” and other security threats. The countries included in this ban are Afghanistan, Myanmar, Chad, the Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and Yemen. The ban will take effect starting next Monday at 12AM.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan ray I WBZ.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
So we're talking about three Donald Trump related issues. One
is his order that Harvard no longer accept international students. Now,
that's gonna end up in courts. It's already ended up
in quarts. There was an amended filing today, okay. And
then we have the new Trump Travel Band, and he
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does on the travel band related to what happened in Boulder, Colorado. Rob,
I'm gonna have you play cut number three, Donald Trump
announcing the travel Band, Cut three, please, Rob, gonna have issues, Okay,
we'll hold that if we're having issues, and we'll get
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to that later on. In the meantime, let's go to
Dean and Randolph. And the other issue is the the
bromance between Elon Musk and President Trump. Seems to be over. Dean,
we're having issues. I hope we're not having issues with you.
Go out ahead, Dean.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, I know this is twice in one week, because
we did have a conversation on Tuesday, I think. But
then the pure and I I agree with you with
the travel band obviously because a lot of those countries, uh,
I don't like us, and we've been have problems and
like you said, I ran uh and some Afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
In Afghanistan, you've got Somalia in there.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Right in a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And a lot of those people don't realize Libya Libya. Yeah,
they forgot about the the marathon bombing. Those individuals went
to school here, they were going to school. Yeah, and
and and this is where they were planning what happened
in Bula, Colorado.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
In all of those cases, these people come here, they
take seats in our classrooms. They they in many cases
end up in Section eight housing. They get on food stamps.
There's all of these organizations who showed them how to.
I mean, there's no organization for me, there was. There's
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no organization I can walk down to and say, hey,
can you help me out here or whatever? Yeah, there
are organizations that will meet these people where they live. Uh,
do you have food stamps? No? I don't have food.
Let me get you some food stamps. Okay. What about
clothing vouchers? Do you have clothing? No? I don't you
have some clothes? That would be great? What about some TVs?
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Do you have a new TV? No, we can get
you a new team. And it's like and the bombers,
the bombers. They went to school here, they lived here,
they were on first stamps, and they took everything from here.
And the only thing they did for us was killed
some people at the marathon and injury.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
We supported est Mike. I hate to say the state
is opportunity. They come up here. I'm in that, you know,
I think you know what I do for work, but
I see that every day they come up here. They
come over the border. Hey, we gotta get the Massachusetts
of New York because they give everything for free. Well,
it's great.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
The people who are coming here are not stupid, particularly
the bad people who are not here. I'm not Stewart.
They're going to go hang around in Alabama and Mississippi,
which are not favorably inclined. They're coming up north. They're
coming to Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
They go ninety five north AND's go to Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Then it is caught. And you just saw the news
this cast some Chinese socials with a fungus trying to
poison our crops.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, that that was beautiful and that fungus which actually was.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
That?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I mean, well, I'll.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Tell you what I can tell you about that, because
I watched it very carefully tonight, and I've heard about it.
They had this this fungus which if it ever got
into our crops were poisoned the crops, but also could
kill Americans if the if the was undetected in the crops.
This is serious. How would people want the companies, all
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these Chinese companies that are buying land and vacant land
next to a military bases. I think, right, a lot
of land spend spend the winter in North or South
Dakota and enjoy across country skiing. I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
To go back to Harvard. What Trump's trying to do,
I understand he may be going to an extreme, but
I can see a different way that he's trying to
be protected because Jewish students have the right to be
safe on a campus, and it's obligation of these universities
to have that responsibility. I mean, it's a lot of
hate hours. We just saw that in Colorado and a
couple of two weeks ago they were killed, and it
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just goes on and on. So I could see a
travel band, I can see a checking You have to
have that now because a lot of people dislike us,
but they want to come here to go to school.
They want to come here, Like you said, they love
the benefits. They love coming here to California, Austin, or
New York. They love it. I mean, where's it end?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, well, it generally ends with a problem. And as
they say, there's a whole bunch of countries here. Who Again,
I'm sure there are a lot of good people in
those countries and a lot of suffering in those countries.
But but I don't know that I want people from
Iran right now coming to the United in America. And
the reason is that the only people who are led
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out of Iran are going to be people that the
government will allow to get out of Iran. Iran is
not an inchy place to get out of, Okay, It's
surrounded by a mountainous terrain. Same way with Libya. I
just think that that, you know, let's let's just comment
down for six months, let's see what happens. Okay. So
I'm on the travel being, I'm fine on the being
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on students. I don't think that's his role. I do
think there's a role of the CIA and the FBI
and local law enforcement. I think we need to be
more aggressive on that. Our friends on the on the left,
they want to tie the hands of law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Uh and which I don't understand. Well, I mean yeah,
I mean they did, like Mayor what was talking about
the mask on the ice. Well, they're trying to hunt
these people down and find where they live in their families.
So they're showing a security issue of safety of these people.
They're being docked just like it's secret police. Like she's
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calling them secret police, like you're back in nineteen thirty
and Nazi Germany.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well that's the language that Leo Foley called her out on,
and she has every right to call because to it's
it's like it's a good call. It's like the people. Yeah,
I'm very impressed by the US attorney, the new US attorney,
Leofole and this whole again the language that the left uses. Remember,
you know, when when Trump was running, it was going
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to be Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. You know, there's things
Trump's going to do that I'm going to disagree with.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But uh, of course we are, I mean sides.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And yeah, and I've already I've criticized the arrest of
the tough student. Good, but I want to see cooperation
from local police departments. Who have information as to who's
in the ground to increase the chances of one getting
the bad guys and bad women out of the country quickly.
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And I'm not really interested in giving them the same
level of due process that American citizens have.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
No, I'm not, okay, I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Simple as that. And I know that there's already lawyers
working to keep this guy's family in the country.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I don't have a lot of sympathy for I don't
have sympathy for them, the family.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Okay, because they it's unfortunate, and but you know, guess
what if I'd love to give them a little bit
of a little bit of due process, but with them,
due process is going to go a long way. A
little bit of due process will go a long way before, right.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But with a lot of evil. And then people are
just I don't have the tolerance for due process. You
hate us that much, you have no business being Eisier
here anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, no, I hear you. I totally hear you. People
around keep calling the show. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Okay, thanks, thank you very much. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Take a very quick break. George and Fitzburg is next,
Christian and Peabty, Tom and Dorchester and I get room
for you. Here's what you gotta do. Six one seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty. That line just filled. Six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. That line is still open.
Back on night Side after.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
This, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Back to the phones. Were go going to go to
George and Fitchburgh. George, second time up tonight, go right ahead, George.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
S Hi, Yeah, I'm enjoying the warm mother.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, it's don't worry which We'll be back next to Sember.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
The conversation is very uh show. It's a steady and studied.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I think I appreciate both those those observations. What's your
take on all of this, George, I.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Think it's most unfair of the president to be actually
to use another word that they use in Ganglan, extorting
people to behave the way they want, even though it's
contrary to what we establish as constitutional and Bill of
Wright's issues.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, I think he's I think he's over the top
here out over his skeys, whatever you want to call it.
I think I tend to agree with you, and I
think that he's wasting a lot of capital. I've read
the correspondence between the White House and Harvard, and Harvard
wrote a pretty conciliatory letter. And by way of background,
one of the attorneys is Robert Hurr, who's a for Harvard,
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who's a pretty conservative Republican. He actually was the guy
who to put was Joe Biden. In October twenty three,
wrote and wrote the report that said that Biden was
in trouble and didn't seem to understand exactly what he
was talking about. So, yeah, I think sometimes you got
to take a victory and uh and accept a victory
as opposed to continuing just to hammer hammer with a sledgehammer.
(10:19):
I don't get it. I really don't understand it. If
he had said, well, you know, Dan, if he had said,
we're going to be in all these students coming in
from from communists China because we just found out that
someone was trying to bring in this, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
There was a problem. The excit from Afghanistan was was
not control and it led to the death of a
lot of American soldier women and men at that point
us by a bomb throwne and by the Taliban. And
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now the Taliban had all the rights to Shall we
say all the women are back to nothing?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah? How does that? How does that all, George? How
does that relate to what we're talking about tonight? How
does that relate to Donald Trump?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yeah? I know, well, let's just go back on him.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It goes back on Donald Trump. I see. Okay, that
was during the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the decisions that
were made leading up to it were made by the
Biden administration. That was in August of twenty three, as
I'm sure you recall.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Other than that, the president is very, very vengeful and
anybody who opposes him.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
All right, I think I think I tend to agree
with him that, George, I got a role here. We
went somehow from the students who were bringing in, you know,
poisonous materials to infect our crops to what happened in
Kabul in August of twenty twenty three. I'm just trying
to make connection.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Okay, So thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Have a nice feeling.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Talk again. We'll talk again. Let me go next to
Christian in Pebty, Massachusetts. Christian, you're next on nightsig go
right ahead.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Hey, Dan, I haven't talked to you a while. Listening
by Luie uh to bring up with a clement sense
to this, I'm thinking we're all listening to the same
thing around and round and now America round. We are
in a position where you have to pay attention as
one saying the case by case yes, but you also
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have to be oh man, how doesn't worked. I was
putting this way. You can't have Harvard Ununiversity not be diverse.
But at the same time, anybody who's going to be
a student there, yes, they should be checked out. They
should be background checked through everything, including their families. And
somebody like Colorado where a family member will do something
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and announced I've never done I've never told any It
was just me well that you were sacrificing your family
because of what you wanted to do, and that means
they don't get the due process because you already sacrificed
your family because of what you did.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah. I don't know if that analysis holds up legally,
but I'm not necessarily in disagreement with you in the
moments of anger that we all feel in light of
what happened in in Colorado, no question about that.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
But back to Harvard, which is the main focus here.
Harbor's Harvard will get through this. And Donald, as you say,
Miss President Trump, I may not agree with him, but
if you have opposing views and you need to set
boundaries within yourself. Of at this point, I've successfully made
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the message across I don't want to destroy the entity
for an American institution. So at some point you that
common sense kind of starts to become aware of his being.
I don't know if it will, but you would hope
the people around him can say, well, we're the top
of the country where your cabinet. Can you look at
what you're doing and there might be a better avenue
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instead of wasting so much time and energy on that
laser being.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Got fair enough, fair enough, And there's a lot of
other issues, including tarifs and including immigration, borders, back bank
including Ukraine and Russia, including more in peace in the
Middle East, including whether Iran is apparently is very close
to getting a nuclear weapon. A lot of stuff on
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his place. They can't have it, Yeah, but what do
you do about it? That's the question.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Well, that's why all this energy needs to be refocused
to some other things that need to pay more attention to.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I mean, one of the things that that George Bush
was rightfully criticized for in two thousand and after nine
to eleven, there were warning signs and there was there
was lack of communication between FBI, CIA and those guys
from the country a long time learning how to fly
airplanes and not wanting to learn how to take off
or land. They just wanted to know how to steer
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the plane when they were up in the air. And
there was a an FBI agent in Minnesota who sniffed
that out and she couldn't get her information up the
chain of command of the FBI that maybe nine to
eleven could have been stopped.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Now one last point to Massachusetts. I really think that
you can't be having the police departments of the state
being opposed to what's going on for the process of
removing people that are not of good nature, lack of
kind of words. They have people on the radar screen
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and they can say, look, there's a record here, there's
a qualling here, this is the one not the eighteen
year old kids was going to school and has no clue.
So if you have an interaction between the forces, then
they can be more accurate with what they're picking up
and it'll be more towards the real goal of those
with the bad thought to be here.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But I also think that our state officials are not
so inclined, and our state officials from the governor on
down has said to for example, the state police don't
cooperate with the Feds. And there's this this court decision
from twenty seventeen called the lun decision, which to me
is a very confusing decision which a lot of people
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rely upon. And they're people here who don't want anyone
out of here. Okay, that's the problem. You have some
people who are the Trump people who want to throw
everybody out, including the eighteen year old kid. And maybe
we get to the eighteen year old kid at some
point and you give them a hearing and you find
out what his goals are. Right now, let's focus on
the bad people. Let's get the bad people out of here,
(16:56):
and let's expedite that process. Okay, you give them an
immigration hearing maybe, or you give him a quick hearing
in federal court. Uh, but you you're not going to
give him ten years and twenty appeals they get a more.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Nope, don't get those.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's too much. Yeah. Absolutely, we're in the same page. Christian,
appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Calling really do very night.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Thank you, and I'm still listening.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Please keep listening and keep calling. I need your voice.
Thank you have a great name. Go take quick break here.
We're coming up on that. We just hit ten thirty.
As a matter of fact, I believe you. We're coming
right up on ten thirty. That means the news is here.
The only line that's opened was the one that Christian
just vacated six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty
and it just filled. So we are. We're rocking and
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rolling here. Stay with us, all points of view, welcome,
coming back on night Side. You're on n.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I'm telling you Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Back to the phones we go. We're gonna go next.
Tom is in Dorchester, Tom, next, do on nice saga.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Right ahead, Dan, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I'm doing warm enough for you tonight over there at Dorchester.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, yeah, Dahn. With all due respect to you, Yep.
We have the most brilliant human being in the world
as president of the United States. Now, I want to
talk about the bromance you were talking about. This guy
is so brilliant. He took he took talking.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
About are we talking about Trump or Musk.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, talking this to the bromance. I thought, you want
to talk about that too.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
But you're telling me this guy's brilliant and we're gonna
talk about the bromance. I went on the which side
of the bromance you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, I'm talking about the whole situation. What Trump did?
Let me explain what Trump did. He took he took
Elon into the back room and he said to Elon,
you know, if the Democrats were in power, did blow
the deficit right out of control? And he said, yeah,
I know that. And he said, Eon, how do you
like having your cats burnt? And he said no, how
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do you like being called the Nazi? And he said, oh,
that's terrible, he said. He said, I'll tell you what
I'm gonna do. You're gonna go out and say this
this thing is, this new budget is an abomination and
you don't agree with it at all. And the Democrats,
who are the stupidest party in the day, I alwash,
that'd be declassified as a party. It's a communist party.
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It's a fastiest party.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Of tom You know, again, always welcome to express your opinions,
But I'm gonna I'm going to dispute you when it
gets beyond opinion and you make a statement like that,
But go ahead, So he tells me, he tells Elon
going out there and say this is a disgusting abomination.
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I got it, so far, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
This is Bruce comes back and he says he doesn't
agree with Trump at all, and he's mad at Trump.
And I was watching the Democrats tonight. Oh, we'll gladly
take him back into the boat after they called him
a Nazi for the passion four or five months.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay, so give me the strategy, tom, I'm on the
edge of my chair here as.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
To the.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Democrats. Will will stop burning his kas and he'll stop
causing call him a nasty if he disagrees with Trump?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
All right? Oh, I got it. Okay, So I just
got one question, right, got one question?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I follow you. I understand the strategy now that you've
explained it to me. Why then if it was kind
of you know, these two guys working in the back
room together and you know, Swung telling the other guy
what to say and how to say it. Okay, now,
Musk tonight, release the statements that says the reason that
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the Epstein suicide. Information is not being released is because
Trump was involved with Epstein on you know some of
that whatever they call those Lolita I expressed planes. Now,
if if this was like discuss between them, why would
Elon say something? You know, that's pretty harmful. If it's
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true that.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
The brilliant Donald Trump will throw that out there, he'll say,
you know, I'd say that, and the Democrats will love you.
And when they released me the papers, they might find
out he visited the island and with all the other
celebrities and politicians and he said, this is this is
just craziness going on here. He threw him out of
his he was down in Marilago. He threw him out
(21:33):
because he's he was getting cozy to one of the
young girls at Marilago.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
He threw him out.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
So, uh.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Again, if he's that brilliant, I don't know why he
would have been on the plane to Lolita Island. But
we'll save that for another night.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I don't think he wanted I don't think he wants
that all. They're going to find out he didn't go
it all, but in case they did, he he might.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm glad to know that shaken in either Donald President
Trump or in Elon Musk and I appreciate your analysis.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Thank you very much. Yeah, you very well.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Thank you. Have a great night. Okay, all right, good night.
There we go. We're just getting all sorts of analysis.
Let me go to Joe and Lyn. Joe, you're next
on nice sego right ahead, Joe.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Good evening, Dan, thanks for taking my call. I have
mixed feelings. I understand how Harvey feels. He went to Harvard,
but Harvard shouldn't even be allowing that to happen.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh sorry, And he went to Harvard Law School, but
he went to Princeville.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, Harvard Law School.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
They shouldn't even be doing that to the Jewish students.
And I am for the travel band especially. I'm forgetting
taking our land back from the Chinese at around military basis.
These people shouldn't be doing this. And if you don't
like this country, I agree with you on some things.
No hearing just gets them out of this country.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
We have to be careful.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
But too many people are doing this. And I'm sort
of a little bit of an isolationist. Like my friend
in Brighton, this is going too far. Look at these
kids that brought this stuff in. They would have ruined
our crops. They need to be deported.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That if if that stuff had gotten into the crops
and we were not and we didn't burn the crops, uh,
and that got into the food chain, you'd have some
dead Americans. That's pretty nasty stuff. And that's why if
he's in.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
You know that those Chinese are sneaky people, Well, we can't.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Trust I think the leadership of the CCP is sneaky. Okay,
we don't have to label one point four billion people
or whatever the colored part.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
We needed to get them out of here, I think,
and go straight in this country out. But I have
mixed feelings in Hart Harvard shouldn't be doing that, and
I can see why Trump wants to stop their funding
until he gets all of this out and make sure
that they promise this will never happen again. It's supposed
to be an Ivy League school in these schools, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I didn't realize, but it is an Ivy League school.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
I think it is. Isn't it is Harvard?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
It is?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yes, it is?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because I
would have forgotten that. Joe. I appreciate that, appreciate.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
That okay, thank you very much, much very much.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, a lot of good information here in case you
missed it, Dorian and Chelsea. Dorian, you're next on nightside. Dorian,
right ahead, Hi Dan, Hi Doreen.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I agree with you about the there goes my fruit
and vegetables that I depend on. That's terrible when I
heard that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, I hopefully your fruit and vegetables are going to
be okay.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I hope. So you know why I don't trust no
one anymore. You know, I'm going to say this, dear,
you mentioned this. This started way before. At nine to eleven,
I went by the hotel those those animals stayed at,
and I was shocked. In Maine, they stayed in Maine
when they bombed all those buildings.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yes, I well some of them still, some of them
stayed up in Maine and some of them stayed, believe
it or not, at what used to be the it
was then. I think it became a day's in on
Soldier's Field Road right next to well.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah, well I know the ones that I went by
the sleazy hotel in Maine where they stayed. I was modified.
I thought they stayed in the high class in Port
when they didn't. I went by that hotel. It was
a shack. Yeah, all right, because my sister lives in
Maine with her husband, and I'm going to tell you something.
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I don't want to get into a nine to eleven
because it's all dying and over with.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
But they'll never.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Forget what they did to our people, you get it.
I am disgusted with the government. You don't know who
to trust, who to talk to. I'm sorry, Dan, I'm
going Austere radio. I'm sorry. My stomach is in notts
over this whole situation.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Let me try to calm you down a little bit,
Doreen for a second here. I don't want you to
stoch so no. Yeah, we're talking tonight about Donald Trump
trying to prevent Harvard from accepting foreign students.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
I agree, no exchange students, Okay, I made the car.
No more exchanged students in this country. These are the
ones that going back stating the troublem. I'm sorry, okay.
Why am I taking it out on the Jews? Why
are they taking it on the Jewish people?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, I mean, unfortunately, there's there's a very sad history
of anti Semitism around the world.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
No, I know, I know, Dan has to be stopped,
no question, I know. Dan.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
So you're okay with the travel band that the president.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Wants to Oh yes, oh, yes, yes you do have.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
It sounds to me like sounds to be like you
have some faith in Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Is what I'm here, and you say, well, this, this shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
This should have been done.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Way before Donald Trump was president.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
We can't change that now though, Doreen, Right.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
No, we can't. No, we can't.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
The damage is done, Dan, The damage is done a
long time ago.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well has been done. The question is how do you
prevent further damage from occurring? That's I think what I should.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well, if I had a.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Pearl Harbor was a harbor.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yes, I know about Pearl I'm yes, I don't, but.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
But that I don't think we're going to have a
repeat of Pearl Harbor. But there are other other targets
in this country that we need to harden. Uh. There
are nuclear power plants that could be hit. There are
there are there are you know, electrical facilities, there are oils.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yes, we have to think we have to be smarter
than the bad guys, Doreen, And we can. That's what
happened in the past, but I think as a society
we have to prevent and think about what could happen
in the future. That's I just don't want you to
get discouraged, that's all. And I don't want to have
an u stomach.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
No, Dan, you're absolutely right, you are correct.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
All right, will you my history, keep calling the show
and keep listening to the radio, and I'm always here
to talk. I will, I will have a great night.
All right, good night, Go take quick break. Now, all
of a sudden, we've got a couple open lines, so
let's jump on board six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
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I got who's up next? Oh, I got Liz in
East Boston. I got Will in Long Island. And if
you want to call, I might be able to get
you in before eleven, and if not, we'll carry over
into eleven. I think this is an important conversation, and
I think we got to get President Trump to focus
on what's important. And I don't think his focus and
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his attention on Harvard is particularly helpful. Now I'm much
more supportive of his travel Band, although I will admit
the travel Band may in the short term prevent some
people coming to this country who should be welcomed here.
Not everyone in Libya is a bad person. Not everyone
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in Iran is a bad person. But those countries they
know who the people are in their countries, who they
will allow to travel internationally. And I want nothing to
do with anyone that Iran will let come towards us.
Back on Nightside after this, You're.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
On Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
All right, let's get rolling. You're going to go to
Liz and East Boston. Hey, Liz, welcome back. How are
you tonight?
Speaker 9 (29:47):
I'm fine, Thank you. I want to say that I
agree with the Travel Band. I'm free with Harvard not
accepting international students anymore. I mean, just think about it,
like your kid works really hard, he's an American and
his seat at Harvard goes to someone that's not from
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this country.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
That's a factor. I understand the concern about that. Yes
I do.
Speaker 10 (30:17):
And you know, didn't didn't do a lot?
Speaker 7 (30:18):
You go to Harvard?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Did what in lot? No?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Salman on you shure.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
No, did not go to Harvard. I'm sure if he
had gone to Harvard, he had family members in the
Boston area who were flown out of this country the
day after the bombings, when when no Americans were getting
access to airplanes, which is again a very curious aspect
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of the whole interesting. Yeah, yeah, so I'm very much
aware of that, to be honest with you, And uh.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
Yeah, that's I'd just like to say something about that
that kid that was you know, arrested by ice and etcetera.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
I mean, he's been here for ten years.
Speaker 10 (31:05):
His parents have been here illegally for ten years. They
still don't speak English. I mean, what's this boy's plan?
Is he going to continue to live here illegally or
does he have a plan to become United States? I mean,
my understanding, grandparents did it, My great grandparents did it,
and it was hard but not easy.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
But there's a way.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Okay, my understanding. I try to answer your question. My
understanding is that he made bail tonight. He was given
I think it was two thousand dollars bond, which was
up two hundred dollars in cash. H and his lawyers
say that they he's going to request asylum. I think
it's interesting that the father was on television. I don't
think he's turned himself in yet. I think he was
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the person that the the ICE agents were looking for.
So we'll see how this plays out. It should be fun.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Yeah, the dash driving around like the maniac one hundred
miles per hour.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, there were some reports of that. And and again
the father came here a long time, came here a
long time ago. He's still illegal. H And but again
I think it was a mistake to pick up. The
amount of publicity that that that ICE has or has
been devoted to the eighteen year old kid far out
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weighs the good that ICE did in picking up some
bad people fourteen and sixty one bad people.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
That's well, that's a liberal media.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
They just want to you know, they take this one
case and they blow it up instead of talking about
all the murderers and rapists and women beaters.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
You know that he's wrong with this kid, I mean,
I mean, I think it's terrible.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
But you know what you hear, illegally make a plan you.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
Want to live here?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah. Well I think that he now is going to
file for SA for asylum. I don't know where he's from,
don't know what will happen.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
To that from Brazil.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Okay, Yeah, that's your correct. I should have known that. Yeah,
And again I don't know coming from Brazil, if he
would qualify for asylum. It's not as if you could
just say give me asylum and all of a sudden
that makes you a citizen. So, Liz.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
And another thing is, you know he's on that volleyball team.
What if my son missed on the volleyball he was
the one who are illegal aliens. It's another thing.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yep.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
They kid a triumph for sports and they don't make
it and someone like him makes it.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
All right? All right, thank you, Liz, appreciate your call.
Keep calling the program. Let me go to Will down
in Long Island.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Will.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
We're up against it a little bit, but I don't
want to have you hang it through the news. Go
right ahead, Will.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Well then you know, I know you had some sellar
like you said, sellar analysis before the break there for
a second. But we can have a little bit of
analysis here. See. I think the key to what Trump
is doing and a lot of these aspects, okay, but
mostly with immigration. This is his Andrew Jackson moment. The
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civil war that's being fought in this country right now
is between the branches of government, separate but equal branches.
And one branch in particular as well overstepped its bounds.
Really since Marbray versus Madison, the whole idea of judicial review,
that whole illusion, okay, is really dependent on the president's
(34:28):
willingness to oblige a court order. Some of these lower
courts and what they're doing. He just needs to outright
defy them, and he can certainly do that if Home
is on board.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Okay, certainly, Well, at that point you're buying another impeachment
for seeding and maybe.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Right, but that's maybe, okay, hold on, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
In that regard, you also get an impeachment removal.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Right maybe. And that's exactly what separate but equal meant,
because the whole idea of this judicial review, that the
Supreme Court and any court actually is the end all
be all of the interpretation of the Constitution is not true.
It's exactly why Corey Booker, in something we haven't talked
about yet and I've been meaning to talk to about,
(35:23):
introduced legislation last week to turn the control of the
marshal over the judicial branch. And then they and the
media tried the coin of phrase it in a way
that it's for the protection of the justices.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
No, it's not.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
It's a way for you to grant powers again to
the judicial branch which were not intended by our founding fathers. Okay,
the real separate, but the real separate but equal way
to do that is they have their opinion. The executive
branch can enforce or decide not to enforce, like you know,
like remember Marshall made his order, now let's see him
(36:01):
enforce it. And then our legislative branch has the option
to impeach and remove, which will not happen under certain circumstances,
especially with these lower courts, because we have a Republican
Congress right now, right, so I doubt he's going to
get removed for that. More importantly, it made Soda Mayor
say something last week or two weeks ago that was
(36:21):
very important.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Well, this, uh, this breach is.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
For precedents, okay, which is going to wind up bring
into the Supreme Court. Not I'll gladly take the loss
in the lower court to bring to the Supreme Court.
This ability for some judge in California to you know,
make a ruling that you know, sweeps across the entire
nation and affects the entire nation. Okay, that should not
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be the case.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Is that issue is going to get to the Supreme Court,
and which is more this June. But I can't see
it not getting next to it next October or maybe
maybe if it's really critical, sometime this summer. Normally the
court leaves in the end of June, doesn't go back
to October first. You know, they're off July or August,
(37:09):
in September. This might be a different summer for the
US Supreme Court, is what you're saying. And I disagree
with you, right.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
And if Trump is gonna die on a hill, right,
I mean, first off, you could only have this term supposedly, right.
I always said stupid things, but we know how that is, right.
So if there's a hill to die on, this is it? Okay?
Because this is going to bring back the power to
the executive branch that it is supposed to have. Okay, And.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Look, Will Will Will Will. I'm up to the against
the eleventh. I'll hold you over for a couple of
minutes if you want on the other side of the eleven.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Okay, yeah, but I want a conversation.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I think you've made your point. I want a conversation
between you and me after eleven. Fair enough, Okay, we'll
be back right after the eleven if there are lines open.
You know the numbers. Let's keep it going.
It's Night Side with Dan ray I WBZ.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
So we're talking about three Donald Trump related issues. One
is his order that Harvard no longer accept international students. Now,
that's gonna end up in courts. It's already ended up
in quarts. There was an amended filing today, okay. And
then we have the new Trump Travel Band, and he
(00:32):
does on the travel band related to what happened in Boulder, Colorado. Rob,
I'm gonna have you play cut number three, Donald Trump
announcing the travel Band, Cut three, please, Rob, gonna have issues, Okay,
we'll hold that if we're having issues, and we'll get
(00:52):
to that later on. In the meantime, let's go to
Dean and Randolph. And the other issue is the the
bromance between Elon Musk and President Trump. Seems to be over. Dean,
we're having issues. I hope we're not having issues with you.
Go out ahead, Dean.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, I know this is twice in one week, because
we did have a conversation on Tuesday, I think. But
then the pure and I I agree with you with
the travel band obviously because a lot of those countries, uh,
I don't like us, and we've been have problems and
like you said, I ran uh and some Afghanistan.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
In Afghanistan, you've got Somalia in there.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Right in a lot.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
And a lot of those people don't realize Libya Libya. Yeah,
they forgot about the the marathon bombing. Those individuals went
to school here, they were going to school. Yeah, and
and and this is where they were planning what happened
in Bula, Colorado.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
In all of those cases, these people come here, they
take seats in our classrooms. They they in many cases
end up in Section eight housing. They get on food stamps.
There's all of these organizations who showed them how to.
I mean, there's no organization for me, there was. There's
(02:18):
no organization I can walk down to and say, hey,
can you help me out here or whatever? Yeah, there
are organizations that will meet these people where they live. Uh,
do you have food stamps? No? I don't have food.
Let me get you some food stamps. Okay. What about
clothing vouchers? Do you have clothing? No? I don't you
have some clothes? That would be great? What about some TVs?
(02:40):
Do you have a new TV? No, we can get
you a new team. And it's like and the bombers,
the bombers. They went to school here, they lived here,
they were on first stamps, and they took everything from here.
And the only thing they did for us was killed
some people at the marathon and injury.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
We supported est Mike. I hate to say the state
is opportunity. They come up here. I'm in that, you know,
I think you know what I do for work, but
I see that every day they come up here. They
come over the border. Hey, we gotta get the Massachusetts
of New York because they give everything for free. Well,
it's great.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
The people who are coming here are not stupid, particularly
the bad people who are not here. I'm not Stewart.
They're going to go hang around in Alabama and Mississippi,
which are not favorably inclined. They're coming up north. They're
coming to Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
They go ninety five north AND's go to Massachusetts.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Then it is caught. And you just saw the news
this cast some Chinese socials with a fungus trying to
poison our crops.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yeah, that that was beautiful and that fungus which actually was.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
That?
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I mean, well, I'll.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Tell you what I can tell you about that, because
I watched it very carefully tonight, and I've heard about it.
They had this this fungus which if it ever got
into our crops were poisoned the crops, but also could
kill Americans if the if the was undetected in the crops.
This is serious. How would people want the companies, all
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these Chinese companies that are buying land and vacant land
next to a military bases. I think, right, a lot
of land spend spend the winter in North or South
Dakota and enjoy across country skiing. I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
To go back to Harvard. What Trump's trying to do,
I understand he may be going to an extreme, but
I can see a different way that he's trying to
be protected because Jewish students have the right to be
safe on a campus, and it's obligation of these universities
to have that responsibility. I mean, it's a lot of
hate hours. We just saw that in Colorado and a
couple of two weeks ago they were killed, and it
(04:44):
just goes on and on. So I could see a
travel band, I can see a checking You have to
have that now because a lot of people dislike us,
but they want to come here to go to school.
They want to come here, Like you said, they love
the benefits. They love coming here to California, Austin, or
New York. They love it. I mean, where's it end?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, well, it generally ends with a problem. And as
they say, there's a whole bunch of countries here. Who Again,
I'm sure there are a lot of good people in
those countries and a lot of suffering in those countries.
But but I don't know that I want people from
Iran right now coming to the United in America. And
the reason is that the only people who are led
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out of Iran are going to be people that the
government will allow to get out of Iran. Iran is
not an inchy place to get out of, Okay, It's
surrounded by a mountainous terrain. Same way with Libya. I
just think that that, you know, let's let's just comment
down for six months, let's see what happens. Okay. So
I'm on the travel being, I'm fine on the being
(05:47):
on students. I don't think that's his role. I do
think there's a role of the CIA and the FBI
and local law enforcement. I think we need to be
more aggressive on that. Our friends on the on the left,
they want to tie the hands of law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Uh and which I don't understand. Well, I mean yeah,
I mean they did, like Mayor what was talking about
the mask on the ice. Well, they're trying to hunt
these people down and find where they live in their families.
So they're showing a security issue of safety of these people.
They're being docked just like it's secret police. Like she's
(06:24):
calling them secret police, like you're back in nineteen thirty
and Nazi Germany.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well that's the language that Leo Foley called her out on,
and she has every right to call because to it's
it's like it's a good call. It's like the people. Yeah,
I'm very impressed by the US attorney, the new US attorney,
Leofole and this whole again the language that the left uses. Remember,
you know, when when Trump was running, it was going
(06:49):
to be Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, Hitler. You know, there's things
Trump's going to do that I'm going to disagree with.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
But uh, of course we are, I mean sides.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
And yeah, and I've already I've criticized the arrest of
the tough student. Good, but I want to see cooperation
from local police departments. Who have information as to who's
in the ground to increase the chances of one getting
the bad guys and bad women out of the country quickly.
(07:20):
And I'm not really interested in giving them the same
level of due process that American citizens have.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
No, I'm not, okay, I agree.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Simple as that. And I know that there's already lawyers
working to keep this guy's family in the country.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I don't have a lot of sympathy for I don't
have sympathy for them, the family.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Okay, because they it's unfortunate, and but you know, guess
what if I'd love to give them a little bit
of a little bit of due process, but with them,
due process is going to go a long way. A
little bit of due process will go a long way before, right.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But with a lot of evil. And then people are
just I don't have the tolerance for due process. You
hate us that much, you have no business being Eisier
here anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah, no, I hear you. I totally hear you. People
around keep calling the show. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Okay, thanks, thank you very much. Thank you.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Take a very quick break. George and Fitzburg is next,
Christian and Peabty, Tom and Dorchester and I get room
for you. Here's what you gotta do. Six one seven, two, five,
four to ten thirty. That line just filled. Six one seven,
nine three one ten thirty. That line is still open.
Back on night Side after.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
This, It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Back to the phones. Were go going to go to
George and Fitchburgh. George, second time up tonight, go right ahead, George.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
S Hi, Yeah, I'm enjoying the warm mother.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
No, it's don't worry which We'll be back next to Sember.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
The conversation is very uh show. It's a steady and studied.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, thank you.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
I appreciate.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I think I appreciate both those those observations. What's your
take on all of this, George, I.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Think it's most unfair of the president to be actually
to use another word that they use in Ganglan, extorting
people to behave the way they want, even though it's
contrary to what we establish as constitutional and Bill of
Wright's issues.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, I think he's I think he's over the top
here out over his skeys, whatever you want to call it.
I think I tend to agree with you, and I
think that he's wasting a lot of capital. I've read
the correspondence between the White House and Harvard, and Harvard
wrote a pretty conciliatory letter. And by way of background,
one of the attorneys is Robert Hurr, who's a for Harvard,
(09:56):
who's a pretty conservative Republican. He actually was the guy
who to put was Joe Biden. In October twenty three,
wrote and wrote the report that said that Biden was
in trouble and didn't seem to understand exactly what he
was talking about. So, yeah, I think sometimes you got
to take a victory and uh and accept a victory
as opposed to continuing just to hammer hammer with a sledgehammer.
(10:19):
I don't get it. I really don't understand it. If
he had said, well, you know, Dan, if he had said,
we're going to be in all these students coming in
from from communists China because we just found out that
someone was trying to bring in this, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
There was a problem. The excit from Afghanistan was was
not control and it led to the death of a
lot of American soldier women and men at that point
us by a bomb throwne and by the Taliban. And
(10:58):
now the Taliban had all the rights to Shall we
say all the women are back to nothing?
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah? How does that? How does that all, George? How
does that relate to what we're talking about tonight? How
does that relate to Donald Trump?
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Yeah? I know, well, let's just go back on him.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It goes back on Donald Trump. I see. Okay, that
was during the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the decisions that
were made leading up to it were made by the
Biden administration. That was in August of twenty three, as
I'm sure you recall.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Other than that, the president is very, very vengeful and
anybody who opposes him.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
All right, I think I think I tend to agree
with him that, George, I got a role here. We
went somehow from the students who were bringing in, you know,
poisonous materials to infect our crops to what happened in
Kabul in August of twenty twenty three. I'm just trying
to make connection.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
Okay, So thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (12:02):
Have a nice feeling.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Talk again. We'll talk again. Let me go next to
Christian in Pebty, Massachusetts. Christian, you're next on nightsig go
right ahead.
Speaker 7 (12:11):
Hey, Dan, I haven't talked to you a while. Listening
by Luie uh to bring up with a clement sense
to this, I'm thinking we're all listening to the same
thing around and round and now America round. We are
in a position where you have to pay attention as
one saying the case by case yes, but you also
(12:33):
have to be oh man, how doesn't worked. I was
putting this way. You can't have Harvard Ununiversity not be diverse.
But at the same time, anybody who's going to be
a student there, yes, they should be checked out. They
should be background checked through everything, including their families. And
somebody like Colorado where a family member will do something
(12:57):
and announced I've never done I've never told any It
was just me well that you were sacrificing your family
because of what you wanted to do, and that means
they don't get the due process because you already sacrificed
your family because of what you did.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah. I don't know if that analysis holds up legally,
but I'm not necessarily in disagreement with you in the
moments of anger that we all feel in light of
what happened in in Colorado, no question about that.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
But back to Harvard, which is the main focus here.
Harbor's Harvard will get through this. And Donald, as you say,
Miss President Trump, I may not agree with him, but
if you have opposing views and you need to set
boundaries within yourself. Of at this point, I've successfully made
(13:53):
the message across I don't want to destroy the entity
for an American institution. So at some point you that
common sense kind of starts to become aware of his being.
I don't know if it will, but you would hope
the people around him can say, well, we're the top
of the country where your cabinet. Can you look at
what you're doing and there might be a better avenue
(14:14):
instead of wasting so much time and energy on that
laser being.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Got fair enough, fair enough, And there's a lot of
other issues, including tarifs and including immigration, borders, back bank
including Ukraine and Russia, including more in peace in the
Middle East, including whether Iran is apparently is very close
to getting a nuclear weapon. A lot of stuff on
(14:40):
his place. They can't have it, Yeah, but what do
you do about it? That's the question.
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Well, that's why all this energy needs to be refocused
to some other things that need to pay more attention to.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I mean, one of the things that that George Bush
was rightfully criticized for in two thousand and after nine
to eleven, there were warning signs and there was there
was lack of communication between FBI, CIA and those guys
from the country a long time learning how to fly
airplanes and not wanting to learn how to take off
or land. They just wanted to know how to steer
(15:15):
the plane when they were up in the air. And
there was a an FBI agent in Minnesota who sniffed
that out and she couldn't get her information up the
chain of command of the FBI that maybe nine to
eleven could have been stopped.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Now one last point to Massachusetts. I really think that
you can't be having the police departments of the state
being opposed to what's going on for the process of
removing people that are not of good nature, lack of
kind of words. They have people on the radar screen
(15:50):
and they can say, look, there's a record here, there's
a qualling here, this is the one not the eighteen
year old kids was going to school and has no clue.
So if you have an interaction between the forces, then
they can be more accurate with what they're picking up
and it'll be more towards the real goal of those
with the bad thought to be here.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
But I also think that our state officials are not
so inclined, and our state officials from the governor on
down has said to for example, the state police don't
cooperate with the Feds. And there's this this court decision
from twenty seventeen called the lun decision, which to me
is a very confusing decision which a lot of people
(16:34):
rely upon. And they're people here who don't want anyone
out of here. Okay, that's the problem. You have some
people who are the Trump people who want to throw
everybody out, including the eighteen year old kid. And maybe
we get to the eighteen year old kid at some
point and you give them a hearing and you find
out what his goals are. Right now, let's focus on
the bad people. Let's get the bad people out of here,
(16:56):
and let's expedite that process. Okay, you give them an
immigration hearing maybe, or you give him a quick hearing
in federal court. Uh, but you you're not going to
give him ten years and twenty appeals they get a more.
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Nope, don't get those.
Speaker 2 (17:14):
That's too much. Yeah. Absolutely, we're in the same page. Christian,
appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Calling really do very night.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Thank you, and I'm still listening.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Please keep listening and keep calling. I need your voice.
Thank you have a great name. Go take quick break here.
We're coming up on that. We just hit ten thirty.
As a matter of fact, I believe you. We're coming
right up on ten thirty. That means the news is here.
The only line that's opened was the one that Christian
just vacated six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty
and it just filled. So we are. We're rocking and
(17:42):
rolling here. Stay with us, all points of view, welcome,
coming back on night Side. You're on n.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I'm telling you Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Back to the phones we go. We're gonna go next.
Tom is in Dorchester, Tom, next, do on nice saga.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Right ahead, Dan, how you doing.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I'm doing warm enough for you tonight over there at Dorchester.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, yeah, Dahn. With all due respect to you, Yep.
We have the most brilliant human being in the world
as president of the United States. Now, I want to
talk about the bromance you were talking about. This guy
is so brilliant. He took he took talking.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
About are we talking about Trump or Musk.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, talking this to the bromance. I thought, you want
to talk about that too.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
But you're telling me this guy's brilliant and we're gonna
talk about the bromance. I went on the which side
of the bromance you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, I'm talking about the whole situation. What Trump did?
Let me explain what Trump did. He took he took
Elon into the back room and he said to Elon,
you know, if the Democrats were in power, did blow
the deficit right out of control? And he said, yeah,
I know that. And he said, Eon, how do you
like having your cats burnt? And he said no, how
(18:58):
do you like being called the Nazi? And he said, oh,
that's terrible, he said. He said, I'll tell you what
I'm gonna do. You're gonna go out and say this
this thing is, this new budget is an abomination and
you don't agree with it at all. And the Democrats,
who are the stupidest party in the day, I alwash,
that'd be declassified as a party. It's a communist party.
(19:22):
It's a fastiest party.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Of tom You know, again, always welcome to express your opinions,
But I'm gonna I'm going to dispute you when it
gets beyond opinion and you make a statement like that,
But go ahead, So he tells me, he tells Elon
going out there and say this is a disgusting abomination.
(19:45):
I got it, so far, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
This is Bruce comes back and he says he doesn't
agree with Trump at all, and he's mad at Trump.
And I was watching the Democrats tonight. Oh, we'll gladly
take him back into the boat after they called him
a Nazi for the passion four or five months.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Okay, so give me the strategy, tom, I'm on the
edge of my chair here as.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
To the.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Democrats. Will will stop burning his kas and he'll stop
causing call him a nasty if he disagrees with Trump?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
All right? Oh, I got it. Okay, So I just
got one question, right, got one question?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Right?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I follow you. I understand the strategy now that you've
explained it to me. Why then if it was kind
of you know, these two guys working in the back
room together and you know, Swung telling the other guy
what to say and how to say it. Okay, now,
Musk tonight, release the statements that says the reason that
(20:45):
the Epstein suicide. Information is not being released is because
Trump was involved with Epstein on you know some of
that whatever they call those Lolita I expressed planes. Now,
if if this was like discuss between them, why would
Elon say something? You know, that's pretty harmful. If it's
(21:10):
true that.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
The brilliant Donald Trump will throw that out there, he'll say,
you know, I'd say that, and the Democrats will love you.
And when they released me the papers, they might find
out he visited the island and with all the other
celebrities and politicians and he said, this is this is
just craziness going on here. He threw him out of
his he was down in Marilago. He threw him out
(21:33):
because he's he was getting cozy to one of the
young girls at Marilago.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
He threw him out.
Speaker 6 (21:39):
So, uh.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Again, if he's that brilliant, I don't know why he
would have been on the plane to Lolita Island. But
we'll save that for another night.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I don't think he wanted I don't think he wants
that all. They're going to find out he didn't go
it all, but in case they did, he he might.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
I'm glad to know that shaken in either Donald President
Trump or in Elon Musk and I appreciate your analysis.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Thank you very much. Yeah, you very well.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Thank you. Have a great night. Okay, all right, good night.
There we go. We're just getting all sorts of analysis.
Let me go to Joe and Lyn. Joe, you're next
on nice sego right ahead, Joe.
Speaker 8 (22:16):
Good evening, Dan, thanks for taking my call. I have
mixed feelings. I understand how Harvey feels. He went to Harvard,
but Harvard shouldn't even be allowing that to happen.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Oh sorry, And he went to Harvard Law School, but
he went to Princeville.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Yeah, Harvard Law School.
Speaker 8 (22:31):
They shouldn't even be doing that to the Jewish students.
And I am for the travel band especially. I'm forgetting
taking our land back from the Chinese at around military basis.
These people shouldn't be doing this. And if you don't
like this country, I agree with you on some things.
No hearing just gets them out of this country.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
We have to be careful.
Speaker 8 (22:51):
But too many people are doing this. And I'm sort
of a little bit of an isolationist. Like my friend
in Brighton, this is going too far. Look at these
kids that brought this stuff in. They would have ruined
our crops. They need to be deported.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
That if if that stuff had gotten into the crops
and we were not and we didn't burn the crops, uh,
and that got into the food chain, you'd have some
dead Americans. That's pretty nasty stuff. And that's why if
he's in.
Speaker 8 (23:21):
You know that those Chinese are sneaky people, Well, we can't.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Trust I think the leadership of the CCP is sneaky. Okay,
we don't have to label one point four billion people
or whatever the colored part.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
We needed to get them out of here, I think,
and go straight in this country out. But I have
mixed feelings in Hart Harvard shouldn't be doing that, and
I can see why Trump wants to stop their funding
until he gets all of this out and make sure
that they promise this will never happen again. It's supposed
to be an Ivy League school in these schools, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I didn't realize, but it is an Ivy League school.
Speaker 8 (23:58):
I think it is. Isn't it is Harvard?
Speaker 4 (24:01):
It is?
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Yes, it is?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up because I
would have forgotten that. Joe. I appreciate that, appreciate.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
That okay, thank you very much, much very much.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, a lot of good information here in case you
missed it, Dorian and Chelsea. Dorian, you're next on nightside. Dorian,
right ahead, Hi Dan, Hi Doreen.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I agree with you about the there goes my fruit
and vegetables that I depend on. That's terrible when I
heard that.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Well, I hopefully your fruit and vegetables are going to
be okay.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I hope. So you know why I don't trust no
one anymore. You know, I'm going to say this, dear,
you mentioned this. This started way before. At nine to eleven,
I went by the hotel those those animals stayed at,
and I was shocked. In Maine, they stayed in Maine
when they bombed all those buildings.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Yes, I well some of them still, some of them
stayed up in Maine and some of them stayed, believe
it or not, at what used to be the it
was then. I think it became a day's in on
Soldier's Field Road right next to well.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Yeah, well I know the ones that I went by
the sleazy hotel in Maine where they stayed. I was modified.
I thought they stayed in the high class in Port
when they didn't. I went by that hotel. It was
a shack. Yeah, all right, because my sister lives in
Maine with her husband, and I'm going to tell you something.
(25:34):
I don't want to get into a nine to eleven
because it's all dying and over with.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
But they'll never.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Forget what they did to our people, you get it.
I am disgusted with the government. You don't know who
to trust, who to talk to. I'm sorry, Dan, I'm
going Austere radio. I'm sorry. My stomach is in notts
over this whole situation.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Let me try to calm you down a little bit,
Doreen for a second here. I don't want you to
stoch so no. Yeah, we're talking tonight about Donald Trump
trying to prevent Harvard from accepting foreign students.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
I agree, no exchange students, Okay, I made the car.
No more exchanged students in this country. These are the
ones that going back stating the troublem. I'm sorry, okay.
Why am I taking it out on the Jews? Why
are they taking it on the Jewish people?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Well, I mean, unfortunately, there's there's a very sad history
of anti Semitism around the world.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
No, I know, I know, Dan has to be stopped,
no question, I know. Dan.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
So you're okay with the travel band that the president.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Wants to Oh yes, oh, yes, yes you do have.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
It sounds to me like sounds to be like you
have some faith in Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
Is what I'm here, and you say, well, this, this shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
This should have been done.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Way before Donald Trump was president.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
We can't change that now though, Doreen, Right.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
No, we can't. No, we can't.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
The damage is done, Dan, The damage is done a
long time ago.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Well has been done. The question is how do you
prevent further damage from occurring? That's I think what I should.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
Well, if I had a.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Pearl Harbor was a harbor.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yes, I know about Pearl I'm yes, I don't, but.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
But that I don't think we're going to have a
repeat of Pearl Harbor. But there are other other targets
in this country that we need to harden. Uh. There
are nuclear power plants that could be hit. There are
there are there are you know, electrical facilities, there are oils.
Speaker 4 (27:53):
No.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yes, we have to think we have to be smarter
than the bad guys, Doreen, And we can. That's what
happened in the past, but I think as a society
we have to prevent and think about what could happen
in the future. That's I just don't want you to
get discouraged, that's all. And I don't want to have
an u stomach.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
No, Dan, you're absolutely right, you are correct.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
All right, will you my history, keep calling the show
and keep listening to the radio, and I'm always here
to talk. I will, I will have a great night.
All right, good night, Go take quick break. Now, all
of a sudden, we've got a couple open lines, so
let's jump on board six one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty.
(28:36):
I got who's up next? Oh, I got Liz in
East Boston. I got Will in Long Island. And if
you want to call, I might be able to get
you in before eleven, and if not, we'll carry over
into eleven. I think this is an important conversation, and
I think we got to get President Trump to focus
on what's important. And I don't think his focus and
(28:58):
his attention on Harvard is particularly helpful. Now I'm much
more supportive of his travel Band, although I will admit
the travel Band may in the short term prevent some
people coming to this country who should be welcomed here.
Not everyone in Libya is a bad person. Not everyone
(29:18):
in Iran is a bad person. But those countries they
know who the people are in their countries, who they
will allow to travel internationally. And I want nothing to
do with anyone that Iran will let come towards us.
Back on Nightside after this, You're.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
On Nightside with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
All right, let's get rolling. You're going to go to
Liz and East Boston. Hey, Liz, welcome back. How are
you tonight?
Speaker 9 (29:47):
I'm fine, Thank you. I want to say that I
agree with the Travel Band. I'm free with Harvard not
accepting international students anymore. I mean, just think about it,
like your kid works really hard, he's an American and
his seat at Harvard goes to someone that's not from
(30:08):
this country.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
That's a factor. I understand the concern about that. Yes
I do.
Speaker 10 (30:17):
And you know, didn't didn't do a lot?
Speaker 7 (30:18):
You go to Harvard?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Did what in lot? No?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
Salman on you shure.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
No, did not go to Harvard. I'm sure if he
had gone to Harvard, he had family members in the
Boston area who were flown out of this country the
day after the bombings, when when no Americans were getting
access to airplanes, which is again a very curious aspect
(30:46):
of the whole interesting. Yeah, yeah, so I'm very much
aware of that, to be honest with you, And uh.
Speaker 10 (30:54):
Yeah, that's I'd just like to say something about that
that kid that was you know, arrested by ice and etcetera.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
I mean, he's been here for ten years.
Speaker 10 (31:05):
His parents have been here illegally for ten years. They
still don't speak English. I mean, what's this boy's plan?
Is he going to continue to live here illegally or
does he have a plan to become United States? I mean,
my understanding, grandparents did it, My great grandparents did it,
and it was hard but not easy.
Speaker 9 (31:27):
But there's a way.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Okay, my understanding. I try to answer your question. My
understanding is that he made bail tonight. He was given
I think it was two thousand dollars bond, which was
up two hundred dollars in cash. H and his lawyers
say that they he's going to request asylum. I think
it's interesting that the father was on television. I don't
think he's turned himself in yet. I think he was
(31:53):
the person that the the ICE agents were looking for.
So we'll see how this plays out. It should be fun.
Speaker 9 (32:01):
Yeah, the dash driving around like the maniac one hundred
miles per hour.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah, there were some reports of that. And and again
the father came here a long time, came here a
long time ago. He's still illegal. H And but again
I think it was a mistake to pick up. The
amount of publicity that that that ICE has or has
been devoted to the eighteen year old kid far out
(32:26):
weighs the good that ICE did in picking up some
bad people fourteen and sixty one bad people.
Speaker 7 (32:34):
That's well, that's a liberal media.
Speaker 9 (32:38):
They just want to you know, they take this one
case and they blow it up instead of talking about
all the murderers and rapists and women beaters.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
You know that he's wrong with this kid, I mean,
I mean, I think it's terrible.
Speaker 9 (32:52):
But you know what you hear, illegally make a plan you.
Speaker 10 (32:55):
Want to live here?
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah. Well I think that he now is going to
file for SA for asylum. I don't know where he's from,
don't know what will happen.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
To that from Brazil.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Okay, Yeah, that's your correct. I should have known that. Yeah,
And again I don't know coming from Brazil, if he
would qualify for asylum. It's not as if you could
just say give me asylum and all of a sudden
that makes you a citizen. So, Liz.
Speaker 9 (33:20):
And another thing is, you know he's on that volleyball team.
What if my son missed on the volleyball he was
the one who are illegal aliens. It's another thing.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yep.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
They kid a triumph for sports and they don't make
it and someone like him makes it.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
All right? All right, thank you, Liz, appreciate your call.
Keep calling the program. Let me go to Will down
in Long Island.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Will.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
We're up against it a little bit, but I don't
want to have you hang it through the news. Go
right ahead, Will.
Speaker 6 (33:47):
Well then you know, I know you had some sellar
like you said, sellar analysis before the break there for
a second. But we can have a little bit of
analysis here. See. I think the key to what Trump
is doing and a lot of these aspects, okay, but
mostly with immigration. This is his Andrew Jackson moment. The
(34:07):
civil war that's being fought in this country right now
is between the branches of government, separate but equal branches.
And one branch in particular as well overstepped its bounds.
Really since Marbray versus Madison, the whole idea of judicial review,
that whole illusion, okay, is really dependent on the president's
(34:28):
willingness to oblige a court order. Some of these lower
courts and what they're doing. He just needs to outright
defy them, and he can certainly do that if Home
is on board.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Okay, certainly, Well, at that point you're buying another impeachment
for seeding and maybe.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
Right, but that's maybe, okay, hold on, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
In that regard, you also get an impeachment removal.
Speaker 6 (35:01):
Right maybe. And that's exactly what separate but equal meant,
because the whole idea of this judicial review, that the
Supreme Court and any court actually is the end all
be all of the interpretation of the Constitution is not true.
It's exactly why Corey Booker, in something we haven't talked
about yet and I've been meaning to talk to about,
(35:23):
introduced legislation last week to turn the control of the
marshal over the judicial branch. And then they and the
media tried the coin of phrase it in a way
that it's for the protection of the justices.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
No, it's not.
Speaker 6 (35:39):
It's a way for you to grant powers again to
the judicial branch which were not intended by our founding fathers. Okay,
the real separate, but the real separate but equal way
to do that is they have their opinion. The executive
branch can enforce or decide not to enforce, like you know,
like remember Marshall made his order, now let's see him
(36:01):
enforce it. And then our legislative branch has the option
to impeach and remove, which will not happen under certain circumstances,
especially with these lower courts, because we have a Republican
Congress right now, right, so I doubt he's going to
get removed for that. More importantly, it made Soda Mayor
say something last week or two weeks ago that was
(36:21):
very important.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Well, this, uh, this breach is.
Speaker 6 (36:25):
For precedents, okay, which is going to wind up bring
into the Supreme Court. Not I'll gladly take the loss
in the lower court to bring to the Supreme Court.
This ability for some judge in California to you know,
make a ruling that you know, sweeps across the entire
nation and affects the entire nation. Okay, that should not
(36:46):
be the case.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Is that issue is going to get to the Supreme Court,
and which is more this June. But I can't see
it not getting next to it next October or maybe
maybe if it's really critical, sometime this summer. Normally the
court leaves in the end of June, doesn't go back
to October first. You know, they're off July or August,
(37:09):
in September. This might be a different summer for the
US Supreme Court, is what you're saying. And I disagree
with you, right.
Speaker 6 (37:17):
And if Trump is gonna die on a hill, right,
I mean, first off, you could only have this term supposedly, right.
I always said stupid things, but we know how that is, right.
So if there's a hill to die on, this is it? Okay?
Because this is going to bring back the power to
the executive branch that it is supposed to have. Okay, And.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Look, Will Will Will Will. I'm up to the against
the eleventh. I'll hold you over for a couple of
minutes if you want on the other side of the eleven.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Okay, yeah, but I want a conversation.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I think you've made your point. I want a conversation
between you and me after eleven. Fair enough, Okay, we'll
be back right after the eleven if there are lines open.
You know the numbers. Let's keep it going.
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