June 9, 2025 • 38 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories we thought you'd like to know more about!
In this episode we chatted with:
Sheriff Patrick McDermott who checked in with the first Norfolk County Recovery Fest benefiting the recovery community. ***THIS EVENT HAS BEEN POSTPONED DUE TO WEATHER.
Jerry Jamison – Author of "Vanishing Act: A Crashed Airliner, Faked Death, and Backroom Abortions." The real life story of con artist Robert Spears.
Enough talking about it: It’s time for the Red Sox to call up Roman Anthony. WBZ NewsRadio's Dan Watkins joined Dan Rea to discuss it!
Is one cup of coffee a day good for you? Yes, and 2-4 cups could be even better, scientist says. Sara Mahdavi - adjunct professor of nutritional sciences at the University of Toronto & lead study author.
Now you can leave feedback as you listen to WBZ NewsRadio on the NEW FREE iHeart Radio app! Just click on the microphone icon in the app, and be sure to set WBZ NewsRadio as your #1 preset!
In this episode we chatted with:
Sheriff Patrick McDermott who checked in with the first Norfolk County Recovery Fest benefiting the recovery community. ***THIS EVENT HAS BEEN POSTPONED DUE TO WEATHER.
Jerry Jamison – Author of "Vanishing Act: A Crashed Airliner, Faked Death, and Backroom Abortions." The real life story of con artist Robert Spears.
Enough talking about it: It’s time for the Red Sox to call up Roman Anthony. WBZ NewsRadio's Dan Watkins joined Dan Rea to discuss it!
Is one cup of coffee a day good for you? Yes, and 2-4 cups could be even better, scientist says. Sara Mahdavi - adjunct professor of nutritional sciences at the University of Toronto & lead study author.
Now you can leave feedback as you listen to WBZ NewsRadio on the NEW FREE iHeart Radio app! Just click on the microphone icon in the app, and be sure to set WBZ NewsRadio as your #1 preset!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice with Dan Ray. I'm going you easy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you very much, Madison. As we get as we
begin another week of Nightside, my name is before measured
Dan Ray with us here back in the control room.
I'm in the remote studio, back in the control room.
And Rob Brooks. Rob gutted his way in tonight. A
little bit of a little carp trouble, but nothing stops
(00:30):
Rob Brooks. He just keeps on. He's like the energizer Bunny.
So Rob, thank you for pushing through and getting there.
In a little bit of a shout out to a
couple of guys who hung around a little extra Luke
and Dan to make sure that everything was covered up.
That's teamwork, teamwork right here on WBZ. Okay, we have
four very interesting guests coming up tonight. We are also
(00:51):
going to talk later about the death of that little
five year old back in late April in Hyde Park.
Little boy got off a bus and the bus allegedly
hit him and took his life. And there's been very
little information available period, and we need to We will
(01:12):
talk with a First Amendment lawyer on this situation and
why why the information has not been forthcoming, my guest
is will be Attorney Rob Perscie and Bertshee and get
that pronunciation correctly. And then later on tonight I'm going
to talk about a judge in trouble, Shelley Joseph, the
(01:36):
judge who seems to be again in big troubles. Her
hearing began today. They could eventually remove her from the
bench and if we can get around to it. Those
la riots looked pretty nasty in Los Angeles, but we
have a couple of We have some optimistic stories, including
the arrival of Red Sox Outfield of Room and Anthony
(02:00):
Great author coming up about a vanishing act, a guy
who was somehow able to fake his own death. We'll
talk with Jerry Jamison on that. We'll talk about the
value of an extra two to four cups of coffee
a day. But first off, Sheriff Patrick McDermott of Norfolk
County and the first Norfolk County Recovery Fest benefiting the
(02:24):
recovery community will be held Saturday, June fourteenth, This Saturday
from eleven to three, Sheriff McDermott, I know that you
and the folks at the Norfolk County Sheriff's Office are
really into an effort not to have people spend time
in jail, but to get them onto the road of recovery.
(02:45):
And this is the first recovery fest.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Tell us about it, well, thanks Dan for having me
on and give me an opportunity to share with your
audience some of the great work that we're doing in
the Sheriff's Office and particularly with our partnership with our
friends throughout the recovery community. The four pillars the Sheriff's
Office are prevention, intervention, education, and hope. And as you
mentioned before, we do everything in our part to try
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to cut down on the amount of incarceration that goes on.
And certainly most of the folks that are coming through
the criminal justice system these days tragically have substance use
disorder issues, alcohol related issues, and mental health issues. And
so we have partnered up with over seventy vendors who
are in the recovery movement to put on this great day.
(03:33):
We're billing it as a day of music and hope
with a family friendly environment, and we're inviting the members
of the community, members not just the recovery community, but
the community at large, to come by and give some
support to this movement to make sure that people get
on the right track. And it really is a labor
of love and a calling for many of these recovery
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movement nonprofits, and specifically we're partnering up with the Way
of Life Foundation at Weymouth. There are partners for this
particular event, and with all the other vendors there, we
really want to make it a day of hope for people.
We've got a great lineup of music, We've got food
for those that want to come here, and for those
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that know about the brain Tree Public Safety Complex at
twenty fifteen Washington Street and Braintree, it is also the
home of our very popular ropes course and we're going
to be opening that up to the kids, maybe some
adults who experience the thrilling zip line that we have.
We'll also have a miniature golf opportunity and a competitive
(04:37):
cornhole tournament sponsored by the Massachusetts Young People in Recovery.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Wow. That's great, and I know that our good mutual
friend Steve Sweeney will be there sharing some stories and
some jokes and adding to the levity of what can
be a pretty serious day for a lot of people.
So it's a nice ballance. You got going.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It's great. And not many people know this about Steve's
any You know, most people see him as a movie star,
as a comedian. They see him at Giggle, they see
him at the comedy stuff. But Steve Sweeney is a
committed member of the recovery community and he gives back
so much more than he can possibly imagine. And he
works for me at the Norfolk Sheriff's Office. I know
(05:17):
he does some work in the Plymouth County Sheriff's Office
in recovery and so, but he does that. He brings
his comedy, he brings his his celebrity status to it.
And we also have though not only was Steve Sweeney there,
but there RMC of the day. Now, you and I
Dan probably don't know this gentleman, but a gentleman by
the name of Mathematics, and he's going to be in
charge of keeping the audience engaged from the stage throughout
(05:40):
the day. In Mathematics is quite a popular figure with
the younger crew.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh yeah, I know who Mathematics. I have all of
his records, you do. I got a whole bunch of
other people, I see. You have the Christian samp cham
Champagne and the condresholes the blow justin clancy. So is
this is as I understand it, This is open to
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the public.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Number one, It's first and foremost, it's free. That is,
it is open to the public with plenty of entertainment.
We are going to be feeding everybody. We'll have our
once again, we have our tactical picnic unit as we
call them, the Sheriff's Office, ready to serve up some
burgers and dogs for the population. And these are all
(06:26):
you know, none of this is it's free to the public.
But what we did is we partner it up with
some nonprofits so to offset the cost of this. So
this is being funded by tax payer money. This is
this is something that we're running through our nonprofit to
make sure that that folks have access to these recovery programs.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
That's great. So this is Saturday, June fourteenth, starts at
eleven in the morning, that's perfect timing. Lunch will be served,
it goes to the exactly afternoon. And you mentioned this
zip line, which which should be a lot of fun.
And you got this corn old tournament. Lots of stuff
going on here and this is all is it indoors
(07:05):
or partially in and partially out because in case it's
a Saturday in New England, which means it may very
well in all probability will rain this rain or shine
tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It hasn't been sunny on a Saturday since March and
unfortunately what it was.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I think I believe it hasn't been sunny in a
Saturday since about nineteen fifty seven. I believe ted we
might be correcting for the red sox.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You might be correct far back as.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I remember, Sheriff, which is about nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
We are forecasting though, that we're going to despite what
the weather forecasters are saying. We believe that, you know,
New England weather is very unpredictable, and even though on
the paper today it's saying that there's a chance of
showers on Saturday, this is a rain or shine event.
We do have a contingency plan that we do have
a big pavilion down there, that we have indoor tent
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set up and things of that nature, so we'll be
able to run this rain or shine. But we just
you know, at the end of the day, it's the
message of hope that we want to get out there
and we don't need sunshine to bring hope to this
recovery community and this recovery festival. It's the people that
are there. It's the joy that's being spread and the
success stories that we're going to have with people being
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able to overcome addiction issues, alcohol issues, and drug addiction.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, my understanding is that there will be there'll be
plenty of entertainment in the air that we can guarantee
that in terms of our own weather forecast with a
chance of laughs with Steve Sweeney, there's always a chance
of laughs and a lot of entertainment, that's for sure. Sheriff,
a great job you want of those committed sheriffs here
in Massachusetts, which I think really is concerned about the
(08:44):
inmates and as much as you are about public safety.
And my hat's off to you. Thank you so much
for joining us tonight.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Thank you so much. Dan appreciate it. And your audience
is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Thanks so much. We'll talk soon when we get back.
We have an author with a great book that my producer,
Marita McKinnon found. I am fascinated and I think you'll
be by our next guest. His name is Jerry Jamison,
and he's going to talk about a vanishing act essentially,
how I think a guy blew up a plane over
(09:15):
the Gulf of Mexico, caused a lot of deaths and
basically tried to disappear from the world. Way do you
hear this one? Coming up? A little bit later on,
we'll talk about the newly brought up. He's been brought
up to the big Club. Roman Anthony going to talk
with Dan Watkins, who's a news guy but also a
big sports guy, and we're going to talk about cups
of coffee. My name is Dan Ray. Again. If you
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Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Welcome back everyone. We interview a lot of authors during
this hour, but there's not been an author lately that
I have looked forward to interviewing more than Jerry Jamison.
Jerry Jamison, Welcome to Nightside. This is a fascinating book
that you have written. I must be honest. I haven't
read it, but I can't wait to read it. It's
(11:06):
entitled Vanishing Act, A crashed Airliner, fake death and back
room Abortions. Real life story of con artist Robert Spears. Uh,
this guy faked his own death successfully. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
It was really only the last chapter of an outrageous
life that led up to that. I mean, it's a
it's a story that that stretches the imagination, but it's
all true.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
It's unbelievably, unbelievablely true. Meaning this guy, how did he
end up? I assume this occurred in the late fifties,
when he had brought an airliner down, he convinced a
friend of his to fly on the plane, and he
(11:56):
kept the friends the friend's identification. What a what a
bad man this guy was.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
The word bad does not describe it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But this is family radio.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, it's true. Even more profound than that is the
fact that his friend was his very very best friend,
his close friend, best man in each other's wedding vacation
together for decades. Families were very very close. These were
(12:35):
two men that were as close as any two brothers
could possibly be. And yet he parlayed that trust and
to asking his close friend brother to just carry a
package on board a plane and take his plane ticket,
(12:56):
which in the nineteen fifties you could do. You could
hand over a plane ticket and said take my ticket,
and all I want you to do is take this
package on the plane.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But he also somehow had the guy's wallet in his identification.
When the guy got out of his car, what did
he pick his pocket?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
No, it was more calculated than that. He had flown
from Dallas to Tampa to meet with his buddy Al
Taylor to discuss potential business business opportunity that they were
going to be involved in together as partners. Al was
(13:35):
very excited about this opportunity and they met at the
Tampa International Airport just a couple of days before Thanksgiving
in nineteen fifty nine, and they were talking about this
business opportunity. The waitresses at the coffee shop remember him well.
They were laughing, they were having a great time. Other
diners remember these two guys as being so close and
(13:57):
so happy and right before so in this situation, Al
Taylor was going to drive his brand new car back
to Dallas and Doctor Spears was going to fly there.
They would meet together for the meetings. At the last minute.
According to records, Al Taylor just happened to mention that
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he had a really stiff neck because he'd been in
a car accident a few weeks earlier. And Doctor Spears
maintains that he said, you know what, I'm up for
a road trip. You give me your wallet, you give
me your registration, you give me your car keys and
your license. I'll drive over there. I'll drive through the night.
(14:44):
You take my plane ticket. It's only about a forty
minute plane flight and you'll be there in no time.
All I need you to do is deliver this package
to my wife, So don't lose the package.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Which, of course I assume held the bond that blew up.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
It was the time bomb. It was timed, he said it,
gave it to him, and twenty two minutes later the
plane was at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico,
never to be recovered because it actually went down so deep.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So this guy's was brilliant. So how did they Well,
they finally caught him. He materialized. And I don't want
to give away the ending. Okay, that's not the point.
The point is to get people to read the book,
and I want to read the book as well. But
when they finally did catch him, what did they do
with him? Meaning, in other words, did he spend the
rest of his life in prison? I hope.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Well, no justice was not served. This is an interesting thing.
Although he was named as the top ten most wanted
by the FBI. In fact, Jay Abdar Hoober at the
time called a specific press conference just basically to say,
we are after this guy. I mean, he took down
(15:57):
Everyone in that plane died, you know, crew and passengers,
and he although everybody was looking for him, when they
eventually found him, they could not pen this on him.
They just didn't feel like they had enough evidence, which incidentally,
I was able through the Freedom of Information Act to
(16:19):
get all the FBI files, just thousands of pages of interviews,
so I really got to the very source of it.
And they just felt like they couldn't charge him. So
what they did is they charged him. And this will
be very similar to the al Capone tax evasion story.
They charged him for transporting a stolen vehicle across state
lines for that car that he drove. Now that sent
(16:42):
him to Terminal Island in Long Beach for five years.
And in a very very cinematic scene when he walks
out of prison, the classic, you know, the big gates
open up and he walked, sat in his cheap suit.
He took two steps outside and he was arrested by
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the LAPD and sentenced to ten years in prison for abortion.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Wow. And I assume and hope that he has moved
on to his just rewards, whether you believe it in
afterlife or not.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, he is a long run.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yes, that's what I though.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
He was released on humanitarian grounds because he had cancer,
and he died in his bed of a heart attack
one year later.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Well, the thing that's horrible about that is that he
was given to humanitarian considerations, but he didn't give humanitarian
considerations of the people on that area.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
And yeah, the irony of it all is and through
the whole book Vanishing Act, it's written like a novel.
So your listeners understand it's written like a novel. It's
a page turner. I mean you yourself when you go
to read it, you'll be reading is I mean, you'll
turn those pages as quickly as you can because one
thing leads to another so quickly, and and it's just
(18:07):
a fast and hinks story because well, we are fascinating with.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
These sort of stories, Jerry, I mean when you think
about the guy that you know that that hijacked the
plane and a dB cooper who parachuted out of the
back of the plane. They never found him, they find
some of the money. That's the next story you should
be working on, because you did a great job on this.
And I think that a lot of people are going
to be interested in reading this book, uh and just
(18:33):
getting the backstory. How does someone like this become that
that inhuman, that inhuman that he not only you know,
send his friend to his death, but whoever, many people
are on that plane. And I'm sure there were people
going home for Thanksgiving to see family members that probably
were some kids, some older folks, some grandparents maybe, And
(18:56):
but oh god, what a what an evil evil SOB,
you know.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
You're exactly right, if you know, anytime there's a plane crash,
even today, right the next day of the newspaper, are
these heartbreaking, heartrending stories of you know, the personal lives
that were involved in the people that were going back.
You know, somebody was going to a wedding, people are
seeing grandchildren. I mean, all of these horrible stories enlisted
(19:21):
right among them in the newspapers is you know, acclaimed
obg y n doctor Robert Spears is among those.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
That are lost.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Incidentally, he never told his wife and children about this,
and they were in agony and torment that their you know,
husband and father was killed in this plane crash.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, well he was obviously trying to go create. Wow. Look, Jerry,
I've really enjoyed the interview Jerry Jamison. The book is
Vanishing Act a crashed airliner, faked death and backroom abortions.
Read the life story of con artist Robert Spears. The
subject of his book is the personification of evil, Jerry,
(20:05):
I assume it's available on Amazon and bookstores. Do you
want to send anybody, any of my listeners to a
specific website. Some of our authors will have a website
where they'll inscribe books that they will send out to
people who purchase them.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, anybody can contact me through my website Jerry Jamison
dot com, J A. M. I. S. O. N. Jerry
Jamison dot com. But the book itself is available any
place you want to get a book.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Well, that's great, best of luck with this. It's a
great story. Maybe a few months from now we'll have
you back and we can have you tell the whole story.
But I didn't want the whole story to be told tonight.
I've interviewed enough authors to know you kind of.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
The story is huge and fascinating, and I know your
listeners would love to hear. He is a con artist
like you, could not conceive the things that he did
in his lifetime of people that lined up to hand
him money.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I hope wherever he is now, he's being that justice
has finally found him. If you get my drift. Thanks Jerry,
appreciate your.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Time absolutely, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
All Right, Well, the Red Sox are down three to
one to Tampa Bay and Roman Anthony has made his debut.
We're going to be talking with WBZ news anchor, also
sports reporter, guy who probably loves baseball as much as
I do, Dan Watkins, about the debut the much anticipated
debut of Red Sox right fielder tonight, Roman Anthony, coming
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back right after the news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Night side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, we normally don't like the publicize what's going on
on other venues at this point, but there's a an
event going on at Fenway Park tonight that draws a
little bit more notice than a Monday night game against
the Tampa Bay Rays would ordinarily with us IS news anchor,
also sports reporter and sports fanatic good friend Dan Watkins, Dan,
(22:11):
what took them so long to call up Roman Anthony
from the miners. I mean, it's this team has been
struggling and they needed a jump start. I'm not sure
if he's going to provide that jump start, but boy,
he arrives amongst such great anticipation. He's being described as
the number one prospect in all the minor leagues.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Yeah, I mean, that is the million dollar question, right
what has taken them so long. There's several reports out
there Dan that you know, they've been really trying to
make sure that they have his service time under control
and without getting way you know, too much into the details,
and then the weeds here on this. Basically, they want
to make sure that he doesn't have a full year
of service time right now this year in twenty twenty five,
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so they can get an extra year before he hits
free agency when he's like twenty seven years old and
he's in the prime of his career. So it's really hard.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
My understanding is that that service time it used to be,
you know, he had to be up for the entire season,
so they could keep a guy down a few of
the dates in April. Nowadays they based it upon at
bats abs, So if you have an adequate number of
at bats, even though you might play three and a
half months, you can get you can get credit for
(23:22):
a year service time.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Yeah, there's that, and then there's also, if you want
to go even further into this, if he finishes in
the top two of the Rookie of the Year voting,
he's given a full year of service time. As well.
So there's a lot of different ways that the Red
Sox are playing the long game with this. But like
you kind of hinted at there before, this team desperately
needs a spark now. They had a great weekend in
the Bronx, taking two out of three from the Yankees,
which I don't think anybody really saw coming, especially with
(23:46):
the way Friday Night went. But this is a team
Dan that just this entire season, they've failed to build
on any momentum that they've been trying to generate here.
They haven't won three games in a row since the
end of April. They're trying to do that night.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
With all due respect to the two out of three
in the Bronx, which was great, don't get me wrong,
but they didn't face the best Yankee pitchers, at least
the best starters they avoided just through the luck of
the draw. You know, the rotations work around, And I
mean the guy that they that they beat on Saturday night, Yarborough,
(24:21):
used to be a spot starter and a long reliever
for Tampa.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Bay, right, They were very familiar with them.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, and and he doesn't throw hard enough to break
a painted glass from what I understand, Rodin Rodin last night.
I mean he looked unhittable for four innings and then
they lit him up.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
They did it.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Yeah, five home runs last night.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, but but it was it was the rest of
the hits as well. I mean, they dominated that game.
And even when the Yankees got it close and it
was back to it went from seven three to seven five,
they popped, you know, four more runs or something, so
they they looked like a different ball team in New York,
you know. And it'll be great to have Anthony back.
Have you seen Anthony play in person yet? Hit a
(25:05):
home run the other night. I guess it was just
short of five hundred feet it was. It was Babe
Ruthiean I guess four hundred ninety seven feet. Yeah. Yeah,
Not that I'm comparing him to Babe Roof. I want
to make clear of that.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
It sounds it sounds like you're saying the red seat
of Fenway's in trouble.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It might be if it could be lord to pull
the ball a little bit. That was direct to do
a center field.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Yeah, it was like a right center It was a shot.
I have not seen him in person yet. I'd been
meaning to get out to Worcester. I've heard great things
about the ballpark. I have not gotten out there yet,
but maybe I'll get over to Fenway here in the
next couple of weeks to see him. But this, this
kid is he is the most hyped Red Sox prospect
I since at least Xander broke Bogarts in twenty thirteen
when he came up at the end of the year.
(25:46):
I mean, you could probably go further than that, because,
as you mentioned, number one prospect in all of baseball
this year. I mean maybe since a guy like like
no More Garcia Para in the nineties. But Anthony has
been crushed.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Couple back even further do it say that he and
again a little bit of this might be geographically based,
but I think that he was the most anticipated Red
Sox rookie. You got to go back to Tony Kennilo
fourteen sixty four. I mean, because of course, you know,
Tony c was a Lynn guy, Lynn kid, you know,
(26:17):
went to Saint Mary's in Lynn and all of that,
and he was much anticipated and he delivered the hype.
I mean, he was I think the fastest. He killed
one hundred home runs, right, hundred home runs, So and
if it had not been for that that Aaron fastball
from the Oriole pitcher that night, his career might have
turned out quite differently. So let's hope that this guy stays.
(26:41):
He's only twenty one. Is it Florida kid? I think
I heard him. He grew up in Florida. Yep.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
He was the Florida's Gatorade Player of the Year as
a senior when he led his high school team to
back to back state titles and a national title too
in high school baseball. I guess according to ESPN, which
I was reading earlier tonight, he was drafted in twenty
twenty two. He is just skyrot through the miners. He
reached double A in his first full season in twenty
twenty three, dominated between double A and triple A last
(27:06):
year and then this year at Worcester. I mean, he
had basically just been waiting to get this call up
here this afternoon, and he was in two eighty eight
through fifty eight games. Is on base percentage is over
four to twenty, which is ridiculous. Ten home runs, twenty
nine RBIs, forty five runs scored and just fifty six
strikeouts and two hundred and sixty five played appearances while
drawing fifty one walks, so he could really be a
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breath of fresh air. And if he could live up
to the hype, or at least, you know, even come
up to like fifty percent of that hype, would be
a huge addition for the middle of this Red Sox
lineup that is completely different than it was on opening day,
mostly due to injuries, but also to Trevor Story having
a rough season as well. But when you look at
what they looked like on opening day, Dan with Alex
Bregman and Tristan Cassis and Story in the three four
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to five spots, those guys are all you know, two
of them are out of the lineup right now. Cossus
has done for the year. Bregman maybe we'll see him,
you know, sometime this summer, and then Story's been struggling.
They got him. I think he's back here and forth tonight.
But they need some pop in the middle of that lineup,
hoping that Anthony and the rest of the Big three
with Christian Campbell and Marcella Meyer can provide them that
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jolt that they desperately need here in the middle of
this lineup.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I guess Roman Anthony drove himself. I guess he was
only told sometime in mid afternoon.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Yeah, I was like three, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I don't know if they held him back, but his
equipment bag was on the team bus heading to Lehigh Valley,
and he drove his own car the mass Strudpike.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yep, no, you'll get the hill Marrabelli escort tonight.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
No, no, nothing, nothing from the airport. Didn't even get
close to the airport. But then there was a great
picture of Tommy mcgloughlin, who's the Red Sox equipment manager,
helping him carry this stuff in. And you just thought
to yourself, how hyped are you going to be if
you're a twenty one year old driving down the mass
Turnpike seeing Boston appear in the skyline and knowing that
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you're heading to Fenway Park and you're gonna be playing
in right field.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
It's whoa, Yeah, it's a great story. I mean, I'm
sure his head is still spinning. He made an error
tonight out in right field.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I understand that. Unfortunately yet well, he apparently did not
have his own glove with him. I think he had
to borrow someone's glove. Was it a fly ball? I
didn't see that.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
No, he was it was it was it was a
ground ball into the outfield. He was approaching and he
must have taken his eye off. It went right by him.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Oh yeah, well that happened. That happened. That happened to
the bray you a couple of weeks ago, same thing
and just under the glove. Yeah, and that that's a
mistake that that occasionally gets made. Hey, Dan Watkins, enjoyed
talking sports, enjoyed talking news with you, just enjoy talking
with him. My man, thank you for for pinch hitting
for me tonight. Anytime called you off the bench and
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you were there and you delivered anytime. Dan, Thanks Dan
Watkins at WBZ News and Sports. When we get back.
For those of you like me who are coffee drinkers,
we're gonna let you know the drinking a couple of
cough cop a couple of of cups of coffee a
day actually can be good for you. That's what they
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say now. Who knows what they'll say next year or
next week, but that's what they're saying now. We're going
to talk about that right after the break and looking
forward to this conversation as well. It's been a fun
Monday night. Here on Nightside, stay with us. We have
some serious topics once we get past the nine o'clock news.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray ONBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well, for you coffee drinkers, you're gonna like what you're
about to hear. I think. Joining us is Professor Sarah Madavi.
She's an adjunct professor of nutritional sciences at the University
of Toronto. Lead study in the author of this study,
which essentially says drinking two to four cups of coffee
a day actually improve your odds at healthy aging. I
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got a lot of questions, Professor Madavi, how are you
this evening, Welcome to Boston and welcome to New England
to Nightside. How are you?
Speaker 6 (31:04):
I'm doing well?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
How are you? I had my two cups of coffee today,
so I'm feeling great.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, I'm kind of a two cup guy in the morning.
And I gotta tell you, I never drank coffee until
I was probably and well I was in middle age.
I was not a coffee drinker. And then I was
working as a television reporter. I started working the morning
shift for eleven years and the only thing I could
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drink to stay awake in the morning was coffee. Everywhere
you turned, it was coffee. And I guess I'm kind
of a coffee junkie at this point. I like my
coffee and it's good for us now, didn't they used
to say it was bad for you, and now they're
saying it's good. How do we figure out who's right
who's wrong?
Speaker 6 (31:49):
You know what? It was such a good question. And
as I've listened to you and I think about midlife,
you know, there is a reason why there are so
many crises affiliated with midlife because there is just so
much pressure on everybody and our bodies are starting to
feel not like themselves as we were in our twenties.
So what we're finding here is kind of interesting now
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that the effect side, meaning like you know, the magnitude
of contribution is still small. But the fact that we
looked at these cohorts for you know, over thirty years,
and we had over fifty thousand individuals that we looked at,
you know, for this coffee consumption gives us you know, good,
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you know, a good feeling about our finding. But it
is still small, and I just want to, you know,
let you know, and the listeners that you know, some
of those really good habits are still going to be
your best bet in healthy aging. But if you don't
drink coffee, it doesn't agree with you. You don't have to start.
It's just one way to feel good if you do
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consume it. But you don't have to worry as much.
But certainly you know there is different you know, a
school oft when it comes to coffee. And the reason
for that is because this research is still emerging. So
even for us this is preliminary analyses. Although we're seeing
some positive associations, perhaps if we look at you know,
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interindividual differences, meaning that the differences between people and how
coffee is good for one person maybe not so much
for the other, we might find different results might actually
be better for some people I'm not so great for others.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
So let me ask you a related question. Okay, and
if this is not in your area of expertise, not
a problem. I for years and years and years have
used the artificial sweetener. I use splendor, and then someone
said to me, no, you should just use pure sugar cane.
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So I got some Domino pure sugarcane. Does that make
a huge difference whether you're using an artificial sweetener or
pure sugarcane, because the pure sugarcane doesn't quite give me
as much of a pleasant flavors as splendor. I'm not
doing an ad for splendor here, but was there any
sort of corollary, uh, you know, consideration that you gave
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to how you sweeten your coffee, whether you drink it
with cream, without cream, half and half or whatever, you
know what.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
It's a it's a great question you bring up, and
it's something that probably a lot of people think about.
The golden rule is really dependent on how much of
it you're consuming. So how many cups of coffee a
day would you say that you consume two?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Two?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
True?
Speaker 6 (34:32):
And then how much sugar do you say that you
put in there?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Four splin put in a total of four splendors, two
splendors or or two cubes, you know, two sugar cubes
per per caution.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Yeah, I think you'd be fine either way that amount
of you know, splendor, which is you know, kind of
like what we call a sugar alcohol or a regular
sugar or raw sugar. Any of those are fine because
they're not really large amounts to make the difference either way. Now,
if you were a kind of person who's consuming you know,
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maybe four or five cups, or you'd like your two
kIPS of coffee really sweet, then that would be a different,
different conversation. And then on top of that, if you
add that perhaps if you have the risk of diabetes,
or if you have diabetes, then I would certainly not
encourage you know, that individual to be consuming the regular
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sugar because that can really spike your blood blood sugars
and you know, cause some additional problems. But you were
sorry for health centifers. I think you're good either way.
And and uh, you know, if you enjoy one over
the other, I don't think you're going to find harm
or or really any any specific benefit either one.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I appreciate that. What about people? Is it better to
drink it black? If people can can deal with it
black and with nothing, no half and half, no cream
or anything like that, no no sugar, no no splendor,
is it better if you can drink it black?
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Yeah, that's a great question too. So I think we
have this thought that things that are good for us
must either feel bad or taste awful. But that doesn't
have to be there, right, you know. Often we actually
had a research paper that came out last year, and
we looked at edition of sugar as well as you know,
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milk or cream when we found and this now this
was specific to weight loss. So individuals who consumed coffee
with milk, cream or black they seemed to be able
to keep weight off easier. Now those who were consuming
it with sugar, they didn't gain or lose weight. It's
just that drinking the coffee that they were having was
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not giving them any benefits. Now, I don't know if
that's the case with healthy aging and the analysis that
we've done. We haven't looked at the addition of sugar NOLP,
but I would suspect it might be similar because I yeah,
by the virtue of you know, if you're drink lot,
like I said, you know, if you're drinking one or
two cups and you're not making the super sweet, it
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probably won't make a difference. But if you're starting to
look at three four cups or you really like it sweet,
then you know you're getting a lot of extra calories,
even if it comes from rassia or honey. You know,
those extra calories unless you're on the treadmill or you know,
exercising to burn those off, they will turn into express weight,
which most people don't want.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
You have been a great guest and I really appreciate
all the information you gave us, not only on your study,
but you know, ancillary education. Thank you so much, Professor
Sarah Sarah Maha Madavi. I've hoped got Madavi okay, Adjunct
Professor Nutritional Services at the University of Toronto, and thank
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you so much for your time time. This was great
and I think it helped a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Have a good night you too, professor, appreciate it all. Right.
When we get back, we're going to talk about getting
answers of a fatal block a bus crash that took
the life of a five year old boy here in
Hyde Park about six weeks ago. We're going to be
talking with an attorney who is involved with the New
(38:12):
England First Amendment Coalition. He wants more information and he
feels the public has a right to know. Coming back
on night Side,
It's nice with Dan Ray. I'm going you easy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you very much, Madison. As we get as we
begin another week of Nightside, my name is before measured
Dan Ray with us here back in the control room.
I'm in the remote studio, back in the control room.
And Rob Brooks. Rob gutted his way in tonight. A
little bit of a little carp trouble, but nothing stops
(00:30):
Rob Brooks. He just keeps on. He's like the energizer Bunny.
So Rob, thank you for pushing through and getting there.
In a little bit of a shout out to a
couple of guys who hung around a little extra Luke
and Dan to make sure that everything was covered up.
That's teamwork, teamwork right here on WBZ. Okay, we have
four very interesting guests coming up tonight. We are also
(00:51):
going to talk later about the death of that little
five year old back in late April in Hyde Park.
Little boy got off a bus and the bus allegedly
hit him and took his life. And there's been very
little information available period, and we need to We will
(01:12):
talk with a First Amendment lawyer on this situation and
why why the information has not been forthcoming, my guest
is will be Attorney Rob Perscie and Bertshee and get
that pronunciation correctly. And then later on tonight I'm going
to talk about a judge in trouble, Shelley Joseph, the
(01:36):
judge who seems to be again in big troubles. Her
hearing began today. They could eventually remove her from the
bench and if we can get around to it. Those
la riots looked pretty nasty in Los Angeles, but we
have a couple of We have some optimistic stories, including
the arrival of Red Sox Outfield of Room and Anthony
(02:00):
Great author coming up about a vanishing act, a guy
who was somehow able to fake his own death. We'll
talk with Jerry Jamison on that. We'll talk about the
value of an extra two to four cups of coffee
a day. But first off, Sheriff Patrick McDermott of Norfolk
County and the first Norfolk County Recovery Fest benefiting the
(02:24):
recovery community will be held Saturday, June fourteenth, This Saturday
from eleven to three, Sheriff McDermott, I know that you
and the folks at the Norfolk County Sheriff's Office are
really into an effort not to have people spend time
in jail, but to get them onto the road of recovery.
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And this is the first recovery fest.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Tell us about it, well, thanks Dan for having me
on and give me an opportunity to share with your
audience some of the great work that we're doing in
the Sheriff's Office and particularly with our partnership with our
friends throughout the recovery community. The four pillars the Sheriff's
Office are prevention, intervention, education, and hope. And as you
mentioned before, we do everything in our part to try
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to cut down on the amount of incarceration that goes on.
And certainly most of the folks that are coming through
the criminal justice system these days tragically have substance use
disorder issues, alcohol related issues, and mental health issues. And
so we have partnered up with over seventy vendors who
are in the recovery movement to put on this great day.
(03:33):
We're billing it as a day of music and hope
with a family friendly environment, and we're inviting the members
of the community, members not just the recovery community, but
the community at large, to come by and give some
support to this movement to make sure that people get
on the right track. And it really is a labor
of love and a calling for many of these recovery
(03:54):
movement nonprofits, and specifically we're partnering up with the Way
of Life Foundation at Weymouth. There are partners for this
particular event, and with all the other vendors there, we
really want to make it a day of hope for people.
We've got a great lineup of music, We've got food
for those that want to come here, and for those
(04:15):
that know about the brain Tree Public Safety Complex at
twenty fifteen Washington Street and Braintree, it is also the
home of our very popular ropes course and we're going
to be opening that up to the kids, maybe some
adults who experience the thrilling zip line that we have.
We'll also have a miniature golf opportunity and a competitive
(04:37):
cornhole tournament sponsored by the Massachusetts Young People in Recovery.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Wow. That's great, and I know that our good mutual
friend Steve Sweeney will be there sharing some stories and
some jokes and adding to the levity of what can
be a pretty serious day for a lot of people.
So it's a nice ballance. You got going.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
It's great. And not many people know this about Steve's
any You know, most people see him as a movie star,
as a comedian. They see him at Giggle, they see
him at the comedy stuff. But Steve Sweeney is a
committed member of the recovery community and he gives back
so much more than he can possibly imagine. And he
works for me at the Norfolk Sheriff's Office. I know
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he does some work in the Plymouth County Sheriff's Office
in recovery and so, but he does that. He brings
his comedy, he brings his his celebrity status to it.
And we also have though not only was Steve Sweeney there,
but there RMC of the day. Now, you and I
Dan probably don't know this gentleman, but a gentleman by
the name of Mathematics, and he's going to be in
charge of keeping the audience engaged from the stage throughout
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the day. In Mathematics is quite a popular figure with
the younger crew.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Oh yeah, I know who Mathematics. I have all of
his records, you do. I got a whole bunch of
other people, I see. You have the Christian samp cham
Champagne and the condresholes the blow justin clancy. So is
this is as I understand it, This is open to
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the public.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Number one, It's first and foremost, it's free. That is,
it is open to the public with plenty of entertainment.
We are going to be feeding everybody. We'll have our
once again, we have our tactical picnic unit as we
call them, the Sheriff's Office, ready to serve up some
burgers and dogs for the population. And these are all
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you know, none of this is it's free to the public.
But what we did is we partner it up with
some nonprofits so to offset the cost of this. So
this is being funded by tax payer money. This is
this is something that we're running through our nonprofit to
make sure that that folks have access to these recovery programs.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
That's great. So this is Saturday, June fourteenth, starts at
eleven in the morning, that's perfect timing. Lunch will be served,
it goes to the exactly afternoon. And you mentioned this
zip line, which which should be a lot of fun.
And you got this corn old tournament. Lots of stuff
going on here and this is all is it indoors
(07:05):
or partially in and partially out because in case it's
a Saturday in New England, which means it may very
well in all probability will rain this rain or shine
tell us about it.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
It hasn't been sunny on a Saturday since March and
unfortunately what it was.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
I think I believe it hasn't been sunny in a
Saturday since about nineteen fifty seven. I believe ted we
might be correcting for the red sox.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
You might be correct far back as.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
I remember, Sheriff, which is about nineteen fifty seven.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
We are forecasting though, that we're going to despite what
the weather forecasters are saying. We believe that, you know,
New England weather is very unpredictable, and even though on
the paper today it's saying that there's a chance of
showers on Saturday, this is a rain or shine event.
We do have a contingency plan that we do have
a big pavilion down there, that we have indoor tent
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set up and things of that nature, so we'll be
able to run this rain or shine. But we just
you know, at the end of the day, it's the
message of hope that we want to get out there
and we don't need sunshine to bring hope to this
recovery community and this recovery festival. It's the people that
are there. It's the joy that's being spread and the
success stories that we're going to have with people being
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able to overcome addiction issues, alcohol issues, and drug addiction.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, my understanding is that there will be there'll be
plenty of entertainment in the air that we can guarantee
that in terms of our own weather forecast with a
chance of laughs with Steve Sweeney, there's always a chance
of laughs and a lot of entertainment, that's for sure. Sheriff,
a great job you want of those committed sheriffs here
in Massachusetts, which I think really is concerned about the
(08:44):
inmates and as much as you are about public safety.
And my hat's off to you. Thank you so much
for joining us tonight.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Thank you so much. Dan appreciate it. And your audience
is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Thanks so much. We'll talk soon when we get back.
We have an author with a great book that my producer,
Marita McKinnon found. I am fascinated and I think you'll
be by our next guest. His name is Jerry Jamison,
and he's going to talk about a vanishing act essentially,
how I think a guy blew up a plane over
(09:15):
the Gulf of Mexico, caused a lot of deaths and
basically tried to disappear from the world. Way do you
hear this one? Coming up? A little bit later on,
we'll talk about the newly brought up. He's been brought
up to the big Club. Roman Anthony going to talk
with Dan Watkins, who's a news guy but also a
big sports guy, and we're going to talk about cups
of coffee. My name is Dan Ray. Again. If you
(09:37):
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A fingertip away back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
It's night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Welcome back everyone. We interview a lot of authors during
this hour, but there's not been an author lately that
I have looked forward to interviewing more than Jerry Jamison.
Jerry Jamison, Welcome to Nightside. This is a fascinating book
that you have written. I must be honest. I haven't
read it, but I can't wait to read it. It's
(11:06):
entitled Vanishing Act, A crashed Airliner, fake death and back
room Abortions. Real life story of con artist Robert Spears. Uh,
this guy faked his own death successfully. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
It was really only the last chapter of an outrageous
life that led up to that. I mean, it's a
it's a story that that stretches the imagination, but it's
all true.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
It's unbelievably, unbelievablely true. Meaning this guy, how did he
end up? I assume this occurred in the late fifties,
when he had brought an airliner down, he convinced a
friend of his to fly on the plane, and he
(11:56):
kept the friends the friend's identification. What a what a
bad man this guy was.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
The word bad does not describe it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
But this is family radio.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, it's true. Even more profound than that is the
fact that his friend was his very very best friend,
his close friend, best man in each other's wedding vacation
together for decades. Families were very very close. These were
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two men that were as close as any two brothers
could possibly be. And yet he parlayed that trust and
to asking his close friend brother to just carry a
package on board a plane and take his plane ticket,
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which in the nineteen fifties you could do. You could
hand over a plane ticket and said take my ticket,
and all I want you to do is take this
package on the plane.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
But he also somehow had the guy's wallet in his identification.
When the guy got out of his car, what did
he pick his pocket?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
No, it was more calculated than that. He had flown
from Dallas to Tampa to meet with his buddy Al
Taylor to discuss potential business business opportunity that they were
going to be involved in together as partners. Al was
(13:35):
very excited about this opportunity and they met at the
Tampa International Airport just a couple of days before Thanksgiving
in nineteen fifty nine, and they were talking about this
business opportunity. The waitresses at the coffee shop remember him well.
They were laughing, they were having a great time. Other
diners remember these two guys as being so close and
(13:57):
so happy and right before so in this situation, Al
Taylor was going to drive his brand new car back
to Dallas and Doctor Spears was going to fly there.
They would meet together for the meetings. At the last minute.
According to records, Al Taylor just happened to mention that
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he had a really stiff neck because he'd been in
a car accident a few weeks earlier. And Doctor Spears
maintains that he said, you know what, I'm up for
a road trip. You give me your wallet, you give
me your registration, you give me your car keys and
your license. I'll drive over there. I'll drive through the night.
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You take my plane ticket. It's only about a forty
minute plane flight and you'll be there in no time.
All I need you to do is deliver this package
to my wife, So don't lose the package.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Which, of course I assume held the bond that blew up.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
It was the time bomb. It was timed, he said it,
gave it to him, and twenty two minutes later the
plane was at the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico,
never to be recovered because it actually went down so deep.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So this guy's was brilliant. So how did they Well,
they finally caught him. He materialized. And I don't want
to give away the ending. Okay, that's not the point.
The point is to get people to read the book,
and I want to read the book as well. But
when they finally did catch him, what did they do
with him? Meaning, in other words, did he spend the
rest of his life in prison? I hope.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Well, no justice was not served. This is an interesting thing.
Although he was named as the top ten most wanted
by the FBI. In fact, Jay Abdar Hoober at the
time called a specific press conference just basically to say,
we are after this guy. I mean, he took down
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Everyone in that plane died, you know, crew and passengers,
and he although everybody was looking for him, when they
eventually found him, they could not pen this on him.
They just didn't feel like they had enough evidence, which incidentally,
I was able through the Freedom of Information Act to
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get all the FBI files, just thousands of pages of interviews,
so I really got to the very source of it.
And they just felt like they couldn't charge him. So
what they did is they charged him. And this will
be very similar to the al Capone tax evasion story.
They charged him for transporting a stolen vehicle across state
lines for that car that he drove. Now that sent
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him to Terminal Island in Long Beach for five years.
And in a very very cinematic scene when he walks
out of prison, the classic, you know, the big gates
open up and he walked, sat in his cheap suit.
He took two steps outside and he was arrested by
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the LAPD and sentenced to ten years in prison for abortion.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Wow. And I assume and hope that he has moved
on to his just rewards, whether you believe it in
afterlife or not.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Well, he is a long run.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Yes, that's what I though.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
He was released on humanitarian grounds because he had cancer,
and he died in his bed of a heart attack
one year later.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Well, the thing that's horrible about that is that he
was given to humanitarian considerations, but he didn't give humanitarian
considerations of the people on that area.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
And yeah, the irony of it all is and through
the whole book Vanishing Act, it's written like a novel.
So your listeners understand it's written like a novel. It's
a page turner. I mean you yourself when you go
to read it, you'll be reading is I mean, you'll
turn those pages as quickly as you can because one
thing leads to another so quickly, and and it's just
(18:07):
a fast and hinks story because well, we are fascinating with.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
These sort of stories, Jerry, I mean when you think
about the guy that you know that that hijacked the
plane and a dB cooper who parachuted out of the
back of the plane. They never found him, they find
some of the money. That's the next story you should
be working on, because you did a great job on this.
And I think that a lot of people are going
to be interested in reading this book, uh and just
(18:33):
getting the backstory. How does someone like this become that
that inhuman, that inhuman that he not only you know,
send his friend to his death, but whoever, many people
are on that plane. And I'm sure there were people
going home for Thanksgiving to see family members that probably
were some kids, some older folks, some grandparents maybe, And
(18:56):
but oh god, what a what an evil evil SOB,
you know.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
You're exactly right, if you know, anytime there's a plane crash,
even today, right the next day of the newspaper, are
these heartbreaking, heartrending stories of you know, the personal lives
that were involved in the people that were going back.
You know, somebody was going to a wedding, people are
seeing grandchildren. I mean, all of these horrible stories enlisted
(19:21):
right among them in the newspapers is you know, acclaimed
obg y n doctor Robert Spears is among those.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
That are lost.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Incidentally, he never told his wife and children about this,
and they were in agony and torment that their you know,
husband and father was killed in this plane crash.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, well he was obviously trying to go create. Wow. Look, Jerry,
I've really enjoyed the interview Jerry Jamison. The book is
Vanishing Act a crashed airliner, faked death and backroom abortions.
Read the life story of con artist Robert Spears. The
subject of his book is the personification of evil, Jerry,
(20:05):
I assume it's available on Amazon and bookstores. Do you
want to send anybody, any of my listeners to a
specific website. Some of our authors will have a website
where they'll inscribe books that they will send out to
people who purchase them.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
Yeah, anybody can contact me through my website Jerry Jamison
dot com, J A. M. I. S. O. N. Jerry
Jamison dot com. But the book itself is available any
place you want to get a book.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Well, that's great, best of luck with this. It's a
great story. Maybe a few months from now we'll have
you back and we can have you tell the whole story.
But I didn't want the whole story to be told tonight.
I've interviewed enough authors to know you kind of.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
The story is huge and fascinating, and I know your
listeners would love to hear. He is a con artist
like you, could not conceive the things that he did
in his lifetime of people that lined up to hand
him money.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
I hope wherever he is now, he's being that justice
has finally found him. If you get my drift. Thanks Jerry,
appreciate your.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Time absolutely, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
All Right, Well, the Red Sox are down three to
one to Tampa Bay and Roman Anthony has made his debut.
We're going to be talking with WBZ news anchor, also
sports reporter, guy who probably loves baseball as much as
I do, Dan Watkins, about the debut the much anticipated
debut of Red Sox right fielder tonight, Roman Anthony, coming
(21:35):
back right after the news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Night side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Well, we normally don't like the publicize what's going on
on other venues at this point, but there's a an
event going on at Fenway Park tonight that draws a
little bit more notice than a Monday night game against
the Tampa Bay Rays would ordinarily with us IS news anchor,
also sports reporter and sports fanatic good friend Dan Watkins, Dan,
(22:11):
what took them so long to call up Roman Anthony
from the miners. I mean, it's this team has been
struggling and they needed a jump start. I'm not sure
if he's going to provide that jump start, but boy,
he arrives amongst such great anticipation. He's being described as
the number one prospect in all the minor leagues.
Speaker 5 (22:33):
Yeah, I mean, that is the million dollar question, right
what has taken them so long. There's several reports out
there Dan that you know, they've been really trying to
make sure that they have his service time under control
and without getting way you know, too much into the details,
and then the weeds here on this. Basically, they want
to make sure that he doesn't have a full year
of service time right now this year in twenty twenty five,
(22:54):
so they can get an extra year before he hits
free agency when he's like twenty seven years old and
he's in the prime of his career. So it's really hard.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
My understanding is that that service time it used to be,
you know, he had to be up for the entire season,
so they could keep a guy down a few of
the dates in April. Nowadays they based it upon at
bats abs, So if you have an adequate number of
at bats, even though you might play three and a
half months, you can get you can get credit for
(23:22):
a year service time.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Yeah, there's that, and then there's also, if you want
to go even further into this, if he finishes in
the top two of the Rookie of the Year voting,
he's given a full year of service time. As well.
So there's a lot of different ways that the Red
Sox are playing the long game with this. But like
you kind of hinted at there before, this team desperately
needs a spark now. They had a great weekend in
the Bronx, taking two out of three from the Yankees,
which I don't think anybody really saw coming, especially with
(23:46):
the way Friday Night went. But this is a team
Dan that just this entire season, they've failed to build
on any momentum that they've been trying to generate here.
They haven't won three games in a row since the
end of April. They're trying to do that night.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
With all due respect to the two out of three
in the Bronx, which was great, don't get me wrong,
but they didn't face the best Yankee pitchers, at least
the best starters they avoided just through the luck of
the draw. You know, the rotations work around, And I
mean the guy that they that they beat on Saturday night, Yarborough,
(24:21):
used to be a spot starter and a long reliever
for Tampa.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
Bay, right, They were very familiar with them.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, and and he doesn't throw hard enough to break
a painted glass from what I understand, Rodin Rodin last night.
I mean he looked unhittable for four innings and then
they lit him up.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
They did it.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
Yeah, five home runs last night.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, but but it was it was the rest of
the hits as well. I mean, they dominated that game.
And even when the Yankees got it close and it
was back to it went from seven three to seven five,
they popped, you know, four more runs or something, so
they they looked like a different ball team in New York,
you know. And it'll be great to have Anthony back.
Have you seen Anthony play in person yet? Hit a
(25:05):
home run the other night. I guess it was just
short of five hundred feet it was. It was Babe
Ruthiean I guess four hundred ninety seven feet. Yeah. Yeah,
Not that I'm comparing him to Babe Roof. I want
to make clear of that.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
It sounds it sounds like you're saying the red seat
of Fenway's in trouble.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
It might be if it could be lord to pull
the ball a little bit. That was direct to do
a center field.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Yeah, it was like a right center It was a shot.
I have not seen him in person yet. I'd been
meaning to get out to Worcester. I've heard great things
about the ballpark. I have not gotten out there yet,
but maybe I'll get over to Fenway here in the
next couple of weeks to see him. But this, this
kid is he is the most hyped Red Sox prospect
I since at least Xander broke Bogarts in twenty thirteen
when he came up at the end of the year.
(25:46):
I mean, you could probably go further than that, because,
as you mentioned, number one prospect in all of baseball
this year. I mean maybe since a guy like like
no More Garcia Para in the nineties. But Anthony has
been crushed.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
Couple back even further do it say that he and
again a little bit of this might be geographically based,
but I think that he was the most anticipated Red
Sox rookie. You got to go back to Tony Kennilo
fourteen sixty four. I mean, because of course, you know,
Tony c was a Lynn guy, Lynn kid, you know,
(26:17):
went to Saint Mary's in Lynn and all of that,
and he was much anticipated and he delivered the hype.
I mean, he was I think the fastest. He killed
one hundred home runs, right, hundred home runs, So and
if it had not been for that that Aaron fastball
from the Oriole pitcher that night, his career might have
turned out quite differently. So let's hope that this guy stays.
(26:41):
He's only twenty one. Is it Florida kid? I think
I heard him. He grew up in Florida. Yep.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
He was the Florida's Gatorade Player of the Year as
a senior when he led his high school team to
back to back state titles and a national title too
in high school baseball. I guess according to ESPN, which
I was reading earlier tonight, he was drafted in twenty
twenty two. He is just skyrot through the miners. He
reached double A in his first full season in twenty
twenty three, dominated between double A and triple A last
(27:06):
year and then this year at Worcester. I mean, he
had basically just been waiting to get this call up
here this afternoon, and he was in two eighty eight
through fifty eight games. Is on base percentage is over
four to twenty, which is ridiculous. Ten home runs, twenty
nine RBIs, forty five runs scored and just fifty six
strikeouts and two hundred and sixty five played appearances while
drawing fifty one walks, so he could really be a
(27:28):
breath of fresh air. And if he could live up
to the hype, or at least, you know, even come
up to like fifty percent of that hype, would be
a huge addition for the middle of this Red Sox
lineup that is completely different than it was on opening day,
mostly due to injuries, but also to Trevor Story having
a rough season as well. But when you look at
what they looked like on opening day, Dan with Alex
Bregman and Tristan Cassis and Story in the three four
(27:49):
to five spots, those guys are all you know, two
of them are out of the lineup right now. Cossus
has done for the year. Bregman maybe we'll see him,
you know, sometime this summer, and then Story's been struggling.
They got him. I think he's back here and forth tonight.
But they need some pop in the middle of that lineup,
hoping that Anthony and the rest of the Big three
with Christian Campbell and Marcella Meyer can provide them that
(28:09):
jolt that they desperately need here in the middle of
this lineup.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
I guess Roman Anthony drove himself. I guess he was
only told sometime in mid afternoon.
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Yeah, I was like three, you know.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
I don't know if they held him back, but his
equipment bag was on the team bus heading to Lehigh Valley,
and he drove his own car the mass Strudpike.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yep, no, you'll get the hill Marrabelli escort tonight.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
No, no, nothing, nothing from the airport. Didn't even get
close to the airport. But then there was a great
picture of Tommy mcgloughlin, who's the Red Sox equipment manager,
helping him carry this stuff in. And you just thought
to yourself, how hyped are you going to be if
you're a twenty one year old driving down the mass
Turnpike seeing Boston appear in the skyline and knowing that
(28:57):
you're heading to Fenway Park and you're gonna be playing
in right field.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
It's whoa, Yeah, it's a great story. I mean, I'm
sure his head is still spinning. He made an error
tonight out in right field.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I understand that. Unfortunately yet well, he apparently did not
have his own glove with him. I think he had
to borrow someone's glove. Was it a fly ball? I
didn't see that.
Speaker 5 (29:18):
No, he was it was it was it was a
ground ball into the outfield. He was approaching and he
must have taken his eye off. It went right by him.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Oh yeah, well that happened. That happened. That happened to
the bray you a couple of weeks ago, same thing
and just under the glove. Yeah, and that that's a
mistake that that occasionally gets made. Hey, Dan Watkins, enjoyed
talking sports, enjoyed talking news with you, just enjoy talking
with him. My man, thank you for for pinch hitting
for me tonight. Anytime called you off the bench and
(29:45):
you were there and you delivered anytime. Dan, Thanks Dan
Watkins at WBZ News and Sports. When we get back.
For those of you like me who are coffee drinkers,
we're gonna let you know the drinking a couple of
cough cop a couple of of cups of coffee a
day actually can be good for you. That's what they
(30:06):
say now. Who knows what they'll say next year or
next week, but that's what they're saying now. We're going
to talk about that right after the break and looking
forward to this conversation as well. It's been a fun
Monday night. Here on Nightside, stay with us. We have
some serious topics once we get past the nine o'clock news.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray ONBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
Well, for you coffee drinkers, you're gonna like what you're
about to hear. I think. Joining us is Professor Sarah Madavi.
She's an adjunct professor of nutritional sciences at the University
of Toronto. Lead study in the author of this study,
which essentially says drinking two to four cups of coffee
a day actually improve your odds at healthy aging. I
(30:55):
got a lot of questions, Professor Madavi, how are you
this evening, Welcome to Boston and welcome to New England
to Nightside. How are you?
Speaker 6 (31:04):
I'm doing well?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Thank you?
Speaker 6 (31:05):
How are you? I had my two cups of coffee today,
so I'm feeling great.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, I'm kind of a two cup guy in the morning.
And I gotta tell you, I never drank coffee until
I was probably and well I was in middle age.
I was not a coffee drinker. And then I was
working as a television reporter. I started working the morning
shift for eleven years and the only thing I could
(31:29):
drink to stay awake in the morning was coffee. Everywhere
you turned, it was coffee. And I guess I'm kind
of a coffee junkie at this point. I like my
coffee and it's good for us now, didn't they used
to say it was bad for you, and now they're
saying it's good. How do we figure out who's right
who's wrong?
Speaker 6 (31:49):
You know what? It was such a good question. And
as I've listened to you and I think about midlife,
you know, there is a reason why there are so
many crises affiliated with midlife because there is just so
much pressure on everybody and our bodies are starting to
feel not like themselves as we were in our twenties.
So what we're finding here is kind of interesting now
(32:10):
that the effect side, meaning like you know, the magnitude
of contribution is still small. But the fact that we
looked at these cohorts for you know, over thirty years,
and we had over fifty thousand individuals that we looked at,
you know, for this coffee consumption gives us you know, good,
(32:31):
you know, a good feeling about our finding. But it
is still small, and I just want to, you know,
let you know, and the listeners that you know, some
of those really good habits are still going to be
your best bet in healthy aging. But if you don't
drink coffee, it doesn't agree with you. You don't have to start.
It's just one way to feel good if you do
(32:52):
consume it. But you don't have to worry as much.
But certainly you know there is different you know, a
school oft when it comes to coffee. And the reason
for that is because this research is still emerging. So
even for us this is preliminary analyses. Although we're seeing
some positive associations, perhaps if we look at you know,
(33:13):
interindividual differences, meaning that the differences between people and how
coffee is good for one person maybe not so much
for the other, we might find different results might actually
be better for some people I'm not so great for others.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
So let me ask you a related question. Okay, and
if this is not in your area of expertise, not
a problem. I for years and years and years have
used the artificial sweetener. I use splendor, and then someone
said to me, no, you should just use pure sugar cane.
(33:46):
So I got some Domino pure sugarcane. Does that make
a huge difference whether you're using an artificial sweetener or
pure sugarcane, because the pure sugarcane doesn't quite give me
as much of a pleasant flavors as splendor. I'm not
doing an ad for splendor here, but was there any
sort of corollary, uh, you know, consideration that you gave
(34:10):
to how you sweeten your coffee, whether you drink it
with cream, without cream, half and half or whatever, you
know what.
Speaker 6 (34:17):
It's a it's a great question you bring up, and
it's something that probably a lot of people think about.
The golden rule is really dependent on how much of
it you're consuming. So how many cups of coffee a
day would you say that you consume two?
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Two?
Speaker 1 (34:32):
True?
Speaker 6 (34:32):
And then how much sugar do you say that you
put in there?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Four splin put in a total of four splendors, two
splendors or or two cubes, you know, two sugar cubes
per per caution.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
Yeah, I think you'd be fine either way that amount
of you know, splendor, which is you know, kind of
like what we call a sugar alcohol or a regular
sugar or raw sugar. Any of those are fine because
they're not really large amounts to make the difference either way. Now,
if you were a kind of person who's consuming you know,
(35:04):
maybe four or five cups, or you'd like your two
kIPS of coffee really sweet, then that would be a different,
different conversation. And then on top of that, if you
add that perhaps if you have the risk of diabetes,
or if you have diabetes, then I would certainly not
encourage you know, that individual to be consuming the regular
(35:25):
sugar because that can really spike your blood blood sugars
and you know, cause some additional problems. But you were
sorry for health centifers. I think you're good either way.
And and uh, you know, if you enjoy one over
the other, I don't think you're going to find harm
or or really any any specific benefit either one.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I appreciate that. What about people? Is it better to
drink it black? If people can can deal with it
black and with nothing, no half and half, no cream
or anything like that, no no sugar, no no splendor,
is it better if you can drink it black?
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Yeah, that's a great question too. So I think we
have this thought that things that are good for us
must either feel bad or taste awful. But that doesn't
have to be there, right, you know. Often we actually
had a research paper that came out last year, and
we looked at edition of sugar as well as you know,
(36:20):
milk or cream when we found and this now this
was specific to weight loss. So individuals who consumed coffee
with milk, cream or black they seemed to be able
to keep weight off easier. Now those who were consuming
it with sugar, they didn't gain or lose weight. It's
just that drinking the coffee that they were having was
(36:42):
not giving them any benefits. Now, I don't know if
that's the case with healthy aging and the analysis that
we've done. We haven't looked at the addition of sugar NOLP,
but I would suspect it might be similar because I yeah,
by the virtue of you know, if you're drink lot,
like I said, you know, if you're drinking one or
two cups and you're not making the super sweet, it
(37:04):
probably won't make a difference. But if you're starting to
look at three four cups or you really like it sweet,
then you know you're getting a lot of extra calories,
even if it comes from rassia or honey. You know,
those extra calories unless you're on the treadmill or you know,
exercising to burn those off, they will turn into express weight,
which most people don't want.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
You have been a great guest and I really appreciate
all the information you gave us, not only on your study,
but you know, ancillary education. Thank you so much, Professor
Sarah Sarah Maha Madavi. I've hoped got Madavi okay, Adjunct
Professor Nutritional Services at the University of Toronto, and thank
(37:47):
you so much for your time time. This was great
and I think it helped a lot of people.
Speaker 6 (37:51):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Have a good night you too, professor, appreciate it all. Right.
When we get back, we're going to talk about getting
answers of a fatal block a bus crash that took
the life of a five year old boy here in
Hyde Park about six weeks ago. We're going to be
talking with an attorney who is involved with the New
(38:12):
England First Amendment Coalition. He wants more information and he
feels the public has a right to know. Coming back
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