June 10, 2025 • 38 mins
We began the program with four interesting guests on topics we think you should know more about!
In this episode we chatted with:
Dr. Dan Suiter, Orkin Distinguished Professor of Urban Entomology, Dept. of Entomology, Univ. of Georgia - A new insect is spreading across the U.S., joining the Joro Spider, Asian long-horned beetle, and the spotted lanternfly! The difference? This one could be fatal!
Jonathan Lane with Revolution 250 checked in, discussing The 250th Anniversary of The Battle of Bunker Hill - A Commemorative Event.
Kelly Isenor, Spokesperson for the American Red Cross of MA - The Atlantic Hurricane season is underway, and that means the increased threat of severe storms. The American Red Cross needs blood donations now to stay ahead of the curve. Find out where you can donate!
Rosangela Teodoro, owner of Teodora's Boucherie Gourmande in Cohasset, MA - Female Butcher Rosangela Teodoro is looking to inspire more women to become butchers! There aren't many female butchers out there but Teodoro knows her stuff.
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In this episode we chatted with:
Dr. Dan Suiter, Orkin Distinguished Professor of Urban Entomology, Dept. of Entomology, Univ. of Georgia - A new insect is spreading across the U.S., joining the Joro Spider, Asian long-horned beetle, and the spotted lanternfly! The difference? This one could be fatal!
Jonathan Lane with Revolution 250 checked in, discussing The 250th Anniversary of The Battle of Bunker Hill - A Commemorative Event.
Kelly Isenor, Spokesperson for the American Red Cross of MA - The Atlantic Hurricane season is underway, and that means the increased threat of severe storms. The American Red Cross needs blood donations now to stay ahead of the curve. Find out where you can donate!
Rosangela Teodoro, owner of Teodora's Boucherie Gourmande in Cohasset, MA - Female Butcher Rosangela Teodoro is looking to inspire more women to become butchers! There aren't many female butchers out there but Teodoro knows her stuff.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's night with Dan ray I'm telling you crazy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks very much, Madison. Good evening everyone. As we move
into a Tuesday. By my calendar, it says it's June tenth,
so we are in June, the sixth month of the year,
and we are like twenty days from the halfway point
of twenty twenty five. Tempest fugit. That's what they used
to teach us in Latin school back in the day.
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My name's Dan raym the host of Nightside, heard every
Monday through Friday night from eight until midnight right here
on WVZ, Boston's News Radio ten thirty on your AM dial.
Rob Brooks is back in the control room, and we
will start off of the first hour as we always do,
the night Side News Update, with four guests who have
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information on various topics. You're going to talk about the
Battle of Bunker Hill two point fifty, a big commemorative
event coming up. We'll be talking about that. We'll talk
with Kelly Eisner of the American Red Cup US here
in Massachusetts about a blood shortage, something that all of
us can help alleviate if you are so inclined. And
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then later on We're going to talk about women becoming butchers.
Apparently there is a paucity of female butchers. I don't
think I've ever run into a female butcher, but we'll
talk about that. We're going to start off with doctor
Dean Suitor. He is the organ Distinguished Professor of Urban
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Entomology at the University of Georgia. Doctor Suter. Hope, I
pronounced that name correctly. How are you this evening?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
That's perfect, Dan. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm doing very well. Always nice to hear a Georgia
accent here up in New England and all up and
down the East coast of America. On WBZ. We know
a lot about nasty bugs and spiders and things like that.
We talked last week with an expert about the spotted
lantern fly. It sounds lovely, but it's a nasty it's
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a nasty bug. But tonight we're going to talk about
Asian needle iiots. They do not sound like they're any
fun at all. And why don't we explain to us
what an Asian needleiot? I hope I never run into one. Yeah, yeah, yes,
they're the more prevalent in our world than maybe I
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realized tell us about them.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yes, So the Asian needleland was that it was actually
first discovered in Georgia back in the nineteen thirties and
couple of surrounding states. It was pretty well established at
that time, but specimens started showing up in natural history museums,
and so for the longest time, well since the thirties,
nobody was It really didn't garner a lot of interest
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till probably twenty five years ago several scientists from Clemson
University started working on its biology and ecology. And what
really brought the latest notoriety of this critter is that
in my job Dan, I interfaced with the public quite
a bit, and last year I got several, I'm probably
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three or four cases where homeowners had contacted me here
in Georgia who had been stung by this ant and
wound up in the hospital with anaphylaxis and nearly died.
And when I hear that that that's a trend to me.
So the folks at Clemson kind of they they sounded
this alarm ten years ago, but it really if you
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talked to an entomologists in the southeast and probably up
and down the East Coast, you'll find people who have
held who have encountered cases where you know a client
has had anaphylaxis.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So so we have ants up here. I'm not an entomologist,
but I'm aware of my surroundings. And we have black ants,
and we have red ants, and I guess they are
a carp ther ants, and you know, more a variety
of species. But where the heck did this species come from?
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And why is it all of a sudden after having
been fairly stable in one area of the country. Not
that we want to keep them in Georgia, but they
end up Are they in New England as well? At
this point?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, there are reported cases of them in New England
all the way up the east coast. So my hunch
is that they're probably not as widely distributed in New England,
but they have been reported from several several states in
New England. So the areas that are characterized where you
find this ant, it's going to be hardwood areas with
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a kind of open understory underneath the hardwood, so oak trees,
oak areas, spices like that, and it's I think the
reason why it hasn't garnered a lot of tension over
all the years is because it's just it's a three
sixteenths of an inch kind of boring little ant that
crawls around on the on the surface of the sidewalk
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and nobody really pays attention to it until you're working
in the garden one day and you get stung by it,
and if you if you are susceptible to anaphylaxis, you
can wind up in the hospital. So it's it's one
of these things that we're what we're telling people is
learned to identify it. And if you you can go
to your county extension agent you could probably send them
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to you mass Amherst and get them identified if you so,
if you know what it is, you can you can
kind of avoid it. But it and identification is really
not for the novice. You can take a good picture
of it, send it to U mass somebody there can
identify it, and then you have at least your you're
armed with the with the evidence. They either have it
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or you don't have it on your property. That's important.
That's step number one.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Okay, are they pictures of the Internet so someone could google,
you know, and not wait for the ad to appear
and get a picture. Are they reddish are they. What's
the coloration.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
They're kind of blackish brown, about three sixteen seven ants inch.
But they don't they don't crawl. They don't they don't trail.
So you'll see them crawling and they look like they're lost.
They'll be all by themselves and they'll just be crawling
on the substrate. They kind of look harmless. And there's
a there's a website called Ants of the Southeastern US.
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If you google that, there's some really great images of
the of the Asian needlelant on that website. You know,
the good thing about this and is it does not
come inside like many pest ants that come inside and
come after your dog food or cafood. This critter tends
to stay outside. And the thing about it is it's
most abundant during the time when we're outside doing our thing.
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You know, we're working in the garden and that kind
of thing. So when I'm when I'm here and I'm
working in the garden, if I pick up something that's
laying on the ground, I look at it, I look
underneath it, because that's what they like to do. They
like to live in underneath patio stones and and and
logs that are laying on the ground. That's their favorite place.
And so we try to get people to clean that
stuff up and keep your firewood piled up off the
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ground so it doesn't so it doesn't get wet. They
really like wet wood.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I'll tell you, it's amazing that these these invasive species.
I assume this is all because we're doing more international
trade in the twentieth century than we did in the nineteenth.
And we're doing more international trade. This must be an
offspring of international trade. Not only just these needle ants,
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but also the longhoined beetle and the juro spider and
the lantern fly. And is that a safe assumption that
I'm making.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
My way off is that now that's safe. International commerce
is the way these things move around. So, as a
graduate student that was working on the Port of Savannah
is one of the busiest ports in the US, and
so he was looking at the ants associated with the
Port of Savannah several years ago. He identified forty three
species of ants on the port, and a third of
them were not native to the US, so they weren't
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highly invasive, but they were not They were what we
call exotic. They're from a different from a different land,
and they had just established on the port and we're
doing their thing along with all the native ants. But
a third of the a third of the fauna ant
fauna on the port was was were exotic ants.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And I'm assuming that these never go extinct, correct, I mean,
you know we always hear about the bald eagles going
extinct or whatever. You know that these beautiful creatures, but
any chance like they go extinct at that point.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
No, No, the e word eradication is not used by entomologists.
That they don't. That's a bad word in entomology because
once once a critter gets established somewhere, it's really hard
to eradicate. You can manage it, and that's what we
recommend is if you're thinking about this ant on your
property or other of you have other pest problems, call
your local pest control company. But uh, eradication is a
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bad word.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
You you you.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Can, you can them down but and keep them at
a smaller population level. But eradication is not not really
not really possible in most cases.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I mean most people will say that it's it's even
a horrible species. Every species has a purpose. I'm not
an entomologist, and that that most entomologists would say, even
if you could eliminate a specific species, it would not
be the right thing to do. Are you I assume
you're in that camp, right.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well, the thing about this critter is not it's not
from this It's not from North America, right, So it
evolved in Asia, and so there are certain there are
certain biological traits that when an invasive species comes in
and it falls out of the container. Uh, there's certain
invasive there's certain traits that allow it to kind of
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elbow its way in. And so we see that with
invasive ants, especially this one when it when it has
moved in and there's other invasive ants. This does do
this when they move into an area, that really simplify
the ecology and they can really mess up the area
because one of the things they do is they drive
our native ants to extinction and they dominate because they
dominate the they dominate the food resources. So that's kind
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of the kind of the issue with invasive ants. And
on top of that, this one happens to be a
pretty pretty important medical past. So it stings and can
put you in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Okay, So therefore it wouldn't be a bad thing if
some scientists came up with a way to eliminate these
or least ship them back to China.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
If we get to find a way to control it,
that's the that's the golden thing.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah. Well, doctor Dan Souter, I enjoyed it very very much,
The or Can Distinguished Professor of Urban Entomology, University of Georgia.
That's a pretty good football program down there. You're gonna
have to deal with Belichick though, I think at some point. Yeah,
just just watch out for his girlfriends. She kind of
controls the situation. You've got to know that. Thanks, docor Sooner.
(11:01):
I appreciate it very much. Enjoyed the cover.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Have a great evening.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I sure will. When we come back, we're going to
talk with Jonathan Lane. He's a historian, and we're going
to talk about the Battle of Bunker Hill, the two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Battle of Bunker Hill.
It's a commemorative event. It's not going to be taking
place in Charlestown. It's going to be taking place in Gloucester.
By the way, we will have a new opportunity for
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you to connect with us here on night Side, we
are putting into place on the free iHeartRadio app, which
all of you, I hope by now have brought down
and put on all your devices. We have a talk
to us what's called the one app.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
For those of you maybe who don't want to wait
on the telephone, you can simply tap the record button
on the full screen player and you can voice just
what you want to say. You get thirty seconds and
you'll know how to run it, probably intuitively, and Rob
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will get Rob or Maria will get your statement, and
we'll be able to play it through the new one
tap portion of the iHeart app. Now, I know may
sound a little confusing to you, but just be with me.
Get the iHeart app, bring it down, it's free, doesn't
cost you anything, put it on all your devices. Make
us your preset, your first preset. Therefore, every time you're
(12:30):
listening to Nightside, if there's something that you want to
weigh in on, it's not as instantaneous as calling the show,
but it gives you an opportunity to say what's on
your mind in about thirty seconds. You can write it
down if you're a little nervous, whatever, and you can
record it and Rob will get it and you may
hear it back in the year shortly after you send
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it in. In the meantime, we will be right back
here on Nightside and we're going to talk about the
Battle of Bunker Hill, number two fifty coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w b Z,
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
All right, let us now proceed, and I'm delighted to
reintroduce to you, gentlemen. Who's been a guest a couple
of times with us already, Jonathan Lane. He is a historian. Jonathan,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Hey, Dan, Thanks very much for the opportunity. It's a
good year, the two hundred and fiftieth.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well, yeah, the good thing about it is we're just
starting it when you think about it, and we're going
to talk about the Battle of Bunker Hill. Now. The
actual date for the Battle of Bunker Hill, I think
is June nineteenth. Is that not correct? June seventeenth, seventeenth, Okay,
I knew it was one of those. That's okay, June seventeenth.
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So this event is going to be held on that
day or will it be held on the weekend prior to.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Well, we actually have a whole ten days worth of
events that people can attend, both in the neighborhood of
Charlie Town in Boston and also of course culminating in
the sort of grand scale reenactment that's going to happen
up in Gloucester on the twenty first and twenty second.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Okay, so the dates we're talking about is a Saturday
and Sunday. That's where I got confused. Four.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Yeah, for the reenactment, that's true. But events actually have
already started this week in Charlestown and.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
They're on Yeah, go ahead, Oh.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
It's you know, it's absolutely amazing. So the City of
Boston archaeologist has been trying to uncover remnants of the
town of Charleston, which of course was entirely destroyed during
the battle and four hundred and five hundred houses, and
the archaeology he's doing is really helping us to understand
the lives of the people who lost everything in this battle,
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even if they weren't actually on the battlefield. So there's
continuing work being done on that. We've got the parade
on Sunday, which is an epic opportunity for people to
come out and showcase their love for this history and
for the veterans who really work hard to put that
event together. Actually on Saturday, of course, June fourteenth is
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the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States Army,
and a lot of the veterans in the Army look
upon Bunker Hill as their first battle, even though quite frankly,
they didn't know they were in the Continental Army at
that point, but they would find out soon enough when
George Washington arrives to take command. So we'll be doing
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a lot of two hundred and fiftieth Birthday of the
United States Army event since at Bunker Hill on Saturday,
there's going to be a flag garden, a memorial flag
garden for the thousands of men who gave their lives
not just on the American side, but also on the
British side. This battle was devastating to the British Army.
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They lost more men in this battle than they lost
in any other battle during the entire eight year war
for American Independence, and so we want that.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah, they really changed the way they thought.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
The Gloucester event, which is going to be the following weekend,
the twenty first and the twenty first and twenty second.
Why is it in Gloucester and not in Charlestown.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
You know, any public historian, our historian of any stripe
would really want to be on the hill on the day,
which is why we're looking forward to the events on
the seventeenth. But in reality to put on the kind
of grand scale reenactment that has been planned. We have
a thousand reenactors coming from all over the United States
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to participate in this, as far away as the Carolina's
coming up to participate, to showcase not just the lives
and actions of the British soldiers and the provincial soldiers,
but also of the citizens of Charlestown who, as I
said before, lost everything. So we we need space. We
need a park with a hill that can accommodate these
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all of these reenactors and their camp since many of
them will be camping out, And of course we needed
it by the ocean because the maritime component is very important.
We have four ships that are going to come in
and stand in for the British navy that surrounded Charlestown.
And at the end of the day, when we started
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looking around for spots that then Diagram got smaller and smaller,
and we finally found a place at stage Fort Park
in Gloucester, and they have been wonderful partners and we're
looking forward to encouraging everybody to go to Charlestown, the
Hill where it happened, and then come on up to
Gloucester to see history reimagined or really it's.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Such important history and it really does spread it out,
which I think is really good. It's wonderful that so
much of this people will have an opportunity to participate in.
There's got to be a website that we can send
people to in case they weren't taking notes during our conversation.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I'm going to give you two websites. For all the
events in Charlestown, definitely go to b H two five
zero dot org so Bunker Hill two five zero dot org.
And then for the events up in Gloucester, I commend
you to Battle of Bunker Hill two fifty dot com.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Sounds great, sounds great. Well, look, Jonathan, I really do
appreciate you are really a compendium of information, particularly when
it comes to Revolutionary war history, and there's no better
person to talk to than you, So I thank you
for joining us tonight, and maybe we can fit in
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on one other event, or maybe we can do something
next week to talk about if you get a breadth,
a breadth an opportunity just to take a breather, we
could do something quickly in advance of the Gloucester activity.
We'll see if we can work schedules that way.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Okay, that would be terrific. I'd just like to share
one more thing, which is that all of these events,
they are trying to tell the stories of some of
the underrepresented voices at Bunker Hill, so more than one
hundred and fifty patriots of color fought. The first indigenous
person was killed at the Battle of Bunker Hill on
the American side. So we're looking forward to getting people
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involved in all of the stories.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Okay, sounds great, Jonathan, we'll talk again. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Thanks Dan, have a great night.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You too. When we get back, right after the news,
we're going to talk about a short age your blood
for Red Cross. This is the time of year, going
into some of the bad storms of the summer season,
the hurricane season. When we talk with Kelly Eisner right
after the news at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Of the hour, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray
on w BEZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
All Right, the Atlantic hurricane season is now underway. I
think it runs June July, August, September and stops a
Remember first, so far, we've been lucky, no hurricanes. We
got ten days down and whatever the rest. One hundred
and forty to go with me is Kelly Eisner, spokesperson
for the American Red Cross here in Massachusetts. Kelly, I
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understand that the American Red Cross needs blood throughout the year,
but apparently we're a little low right now. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Well, you know, this is that time of year where
we remind people that yes, exactly like you said, hurricane
season has started. It's the time of year where we're
thinking about you know, summer plans, getting away, going to
the Cape. You know, maybe not today with cold and rainy, but.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
No, yeah, I know, don't remind me, Kelly.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
But you know in the midst of all that hospitals
need blood three hundred and sixty five days a year.
You know, blood has a shelf life of forty two days.
So if you donate blood today, that blood will won't
be able to be transiated the patient after about mid July.
So we just want to remind people that, you know,
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as everything else is going on, as hurricanes happen, as
they start to talk about hurricanes, I mean, yeah, I
love your ten day countdown, but you.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Know that we're good so far.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Exactly, it's exactly, but there is that potential. And you know,
we see like last year was a really bad season
for hurricanes, and what happened is when they do hit,
that affects the blood supply as well, because you know,
if it's dangerous to go out and give blood, we
can't have our staff go out and keep running blood drives,
and we wouldn't ask our donors to go out in
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that so it all has a compounding effect.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So yeah, well, there are some people in my audience
who I know are dedicated blood donors. Just remind all
of us, if you give blood today, when can you
do it again? What is the amount of separation that
you have to have between two blood donations.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
It's about six weeks. It's actually fifty six days exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Okay, well we can, yeah, we can fifty six days. Okay,
Well that's actually eight weeks, so it's a little more
than did make sure what division there? Okay, So sixty
days whatever. Okay, are there people who really give four
or five times on a regular basis per year? There?
(22:27):
Do you have your your regular donors?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
There are we see donors. It's not uncommon to see
people wearing five gallon or ten gallon tins every time
you give. It's about a kind of blood, so you
know that adds up. And if you're starting to count
in gallons, it means that you're pretty regular with your appointment.
But I'll do even one betther. We at our DETI
Donor center and all our fixed site blood donor centers
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is where we collect platelets, and I will I work
out of our DEBTI office and I will see the
same platelets owners every week. You can give platelets a
little bit more often, and I get to know people
in the parking lot. I recognize their faces as they're
moving in. It's really incredible you can give platelets.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Is there a health benefit for the donor either who
donates the blood or donates the platelet, assuming they're healthy
and all of that, and they're not, you know, wearing
themselves down. But is there any sort of a health
benefit for the people who are generous donors?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
I think the benefit is more that you feel great
after doing it because you're literally helping save a life,
Like an hour of your time could make a life
saving difference in someone's in their own health. I you know,
I'm sure there's probably anecdotal stuff about you know, people
giving blood.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
I don't really know about that. I've not seen a
lot of science on it. But I will say you
feel good just knowing that you're doing a good thing.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Now. I have a list of locations. There are six
six locations here, well, there are many locations. My producer
Karen Bussemi left me a list of different you know,
not your permanent locations. Everywhere, everywhere from I think every
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town in Massachusetts and Over Danvers, Georgetown, Ipswich, Lawrence, Linfield, Merrimack,
Mathu and no Report North Andover, Salem, Salisbury, Topsfield, Arlington, Burlington, Cambridge, Chelmsford, Framingham, Hopkinton, Lexington, Lowell.
I feel like Gary Lapierre reading or no school announcements, Melrose, Natick, Newton,
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North Chelmsford, Pepperl bottom line is almost wherever you live
in Eastern Well. Let me finish out here, because I
was close to the end Pepperl reading Somerville, Sudbury, Tewksbury, Tingsboro, Wakefield, Waldam, Whyland, Westford, Weston, Wilmington,
Winchester and Wilburn. Those are all locations in all those
communities that you can go to the to the Red
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Cross website with Kelly. You can provide us. With the
Red Cross website, you can look up and find a
location close to where you work or close to where
you live. This is a great list, by the way,
and this is also from June sixteenth to the thirtieth.
What's the website, Kelly.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
It's redcrossblood dot org. And because your point is a
very long list, if you just put your zip code in,
that'll bring up the ones that are closest to you,
closest to your zip code, sorted chronologically. And I actually
have to point out we also have six site donation
centers in western Springfield. And today it was the first
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of a two day blood drive on Nantucket. Our whole
I put pictures on our social There was a a
very full of Red Crossers, Red crosslebontomous and truck drivers
that all went out to Nantucket Island to run a
two day blood drive there. And that blood drive is
expected to collect three hundred units, so we really are
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all over the place. We try to make it as
easy as possible for the donors who get their time.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Were there any settings of Bill Belichick out there today,
I would.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Have heard, I think if there had been, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well he's got to get ready for the football season.
Well this is broken down also folks by county, because
if you know what county you're in, or just if
you know where you live, Essex County, Middle Middlesex County,
I assume you got Suffolk County in here as well.
Uh yeah, so this is this is a great a
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great list for people to to go by. And again
it's it has to make people feel better and you
do get I think it's like cookies and and juice
when when you're in your as you're recovering comfortably. So
that alone would be enough. If an incentive for me,
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Oh, it's tell you for me, it's those little I
used to be oreos. That was sort of my go
to post blood donation snacks, but lately I've been into
those little fruit snacks. They're oh I don't think they're
made from fruits. They're probably all sugar, but they taste
so good after Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Oh, everything tastes better after that. Absolutely. Well, Kelly, first
of all, thank you so much for being with us tonight.
And I hope that people will go to the website
and think about they can give blood. I assume that
it's available. This is just not a money through Friday effort.
There'll be some weekend availabilities as well.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Yes, we do run seven days a week. We try
to do some morning blood drives, some evening blood drives,
just to really meet people where they're at. Make it again,
make it easy.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Sounds great, sounds great, Kelly, say hi to my friend
Nate and Telemon was asking for them. Okay, that's Kelly's wife, Parwell.
I don't know that. One of my great camera men
at Channel four in another in another my prior life
television he was a he's a good guy. Okay, coch
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He made me sitting there. All right, Thanks Kelly. We'll
talk soon of the American Red Cross. That's great, all right.
When we get back after the break, we're going to
talk about going to talk with a woman who owns
uh a gourmet butcher's shop, but it's really pronounced it's boucherie.
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Gourmand in Cohasset, Massachusetts, about I guess getting more women
involved as butcher's something I'd never thought of. But we'll we'll,
we'll fill you in with all you need to know.
Coming back on night Side right after the break.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Delighted to be joined by Rosangela, Theodoro ros Angela. I
hope I got the both the first and the last
name pronounced correctly.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Yes, you did, thank you. I'm glad, I'm I'm I'm
glad to be here.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Well, I'm glad you're here. Are you the owner of
Theodoro's Boucherie Gourmand? Yes, for the reason I take that
French class back in the day.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
It has you serve you purpose?
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Yes, yes, yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You grew up on a cattle farm in Brazil.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Yes, I did. That's how my father starts his life.
He started his life was he barely finished fourth grade,
and then he got into the cattle business. And then
he built a big cattle business, over ten thousand heads
of cattle there.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
And so now you have a very fancy butcher shop.
But but boucherie gomand uh it go has it tell
us about that, and then I guess there are not
too many female butchers out there. I think the figure
is eleven percent? Is that in this country or internationally.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
In this country?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
In this country? Okay? And so tell us about Theodora's
Butchery Goman number one, and then tell us about why
we don't have more women who are butchers. I when
I think of every butcher shop that I've ever gone into,
it's I can't think of ever having walked into a
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butcher shop. I've never been in your fine establishment and
watched a female butcher. I've watched a lot of male
butchers slice and dice, and there are artists when they
you know, cut meat up and just they they're almost
like magicians. Tell us about what you're doing. How we
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get more women involved.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
I grow up in the industry, so my house was
full of cattle business people, and my dad had four
butcher shops. That's how he started first. So that's a
language I always here, you know, among my friends, among
his friends. So when I moved here and I found
like my son never get to know my father first
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and my history. So I want to him to know
what was my background or my dad did through what
he did, how he started. So having the butcher shop
was kind of attribute to them, to my father. But
also I found like going to the supermarket, going to stores,
or going to other butcher shops, I found that it
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wasn't well thought, you know, Like I was getting meat,
they wouldn't tell what it is, just tell me what
kind of meat I was getting. So and then I
look back at the farm at the big picture. No,
there's four years back before the cattle gets to.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Beat the beef.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
So I you know, when I eat a beef, I
can tell if it's a female or how old it is.
I kind of can get a sense. So when I
and I found that all these four years of the
farmer doesn't get translated to the end, you know, or
if the customer get a meat that's not for the
cut that he wants to eat, or we kind of
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have to explain to them, Oh, you want to for grilling,
you use that kind of meat. You want for the
open you use another kind. So I found that it
was missing that they didn't know about what was behind
and I didn't want to know the farmer hard work
would not be you know well represented. Well, uh, places,
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why why you opened your own shop and Cohasset, Yes,
it wasn't. I live in Cohasset. It's the south of Boston,
like an hour and I found out here there's a
lot of you know, people that go to the supermarket
walk all the way down until you get to a butcher,
and a butcher you just kind of just walk in.
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My father used to say, we need more butcher shop
than pharmacy because you just go and get what you
want and just cook one thing.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's good. Now has your dad? Is
your dad still alive and has he been able to
go up and visit you?
Speaker 7 (33:22):
No, No, my dad passed away twelve years ago, and
that's why I opened the butcher shop. Yeah, I have.
I have a neural in his farm, you know when
he has a hat that he always wear a hat
and a cowboy boots was normal, and I have a
tribute to him on the wall. And I just want
to just like my son when he sees that he
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sees you know, I'm telling the story that you never
get to know my dad and also be able to
tell the customers what go around the farm that they
didn't get to know them. So my store has shadow
that let the kids play and the set. I have
some cattle prods that they play around that I have
the hats that they always have something related to the
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agriculture that they feel connect. If you stay here long enough,
are convinced to your two things, or be a butcher
or be a cattle ranchers.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
But so you grew you grew up in Brazil on
a cattle wretch, so you've been around cattle and beef
and all of this your entire life.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
All my entire life. And then my friends and you know,
I'm talking talking to them, and then my phone rings,
there's a problem in the farm, or oh where's where's
a cattle? A tractor fell turnover, so I need to
organize to turn it over back in uh had to
truck some cattle, organize everything that goes together. So they
found very interesting that I, you know, managed so easily.
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It wasn't because I just manage it, just because I
grew up watching that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Right now, you don't you don't have cattle in cohact.
I assume you.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
You no, Okay, Yeah, I don't go in there and
get them. Like today, I have to organize to get
three lamps I'm getting for a Father's Day and a
half cow to break down on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
So where do you if I could ask, do you
have to come up, like to the to the meat
markets in Boston.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Or somewhere to know, I go to the UH. I
buy from the distributors some some you know, because people
into just the normal cuts, you know, the New York
strips feel less. But I also like to get whole
animals because then I can't have utilize the whole the
whole cut, you know, hold the whole cow and use
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teach more the customer. They don't get just six eight
into some one kind of cut. You know, there's many
cuts you can use. If you cut properly, you know,
and you you know how to cook properly, you can
have a very nice, you know, good steak and keep
having more steak because the steak has a lot of minerals,
(35:59):
iron and your body needs, and it's very healthy. It's
not unhealthy.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah. No, I know that there are some people who
are vegetarians and pescatarians and all of that, but I like,
I'm a big hamburger guy. That's what I like.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Yeah, meat is very good for you because you know,
like you get you I get my memory is very good.
You know, I'm fifty five and a lot of people
think I'm not fifty five and I haven't done anything. Yeah, yeah,
you know it's it's.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Healthy for you, good well and also help for environment,
you know, because we we move the kettles and you know,
the kettle comfort grass that wouldn't be able to we
won't be able to utilize carries out there on the field.
We don't need to make, you know, big project or
a house for them to stay. They can stay there.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah. No, absolutely, there's a lot more to it. There's
a lot more to it, Los angel So I appreciate
I learned a lot tonight.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
The owner of Theodora's Boucherie Gomand in Cohassett, Massachusetts. Boucherie Gomand,
I assume is French.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Correct, it's French, because I had a French friend that
I get to know here in cohas it that every
time I will go to her house, I will come
up with a little bag and then I made it
this meal and she's like, I just don't understand you
coming with this little bag and you make this beautiful
meal and we don't see this here. And then she
kind of you know, helped push me to open. So
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that's like, you know, till there is my dad's Yeah,
till there is my last name in Buchery Goma is
a tribute to you know her that she really pushed
me to do very well.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
People will find you, Los Angela. Thank you very much,
and hopefully there will be more females joining the profession
of being coming butchers. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
Thank you. I hope you come and visit us.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
If I get down that way, you can. Thank you
very much, Los Angela. I thank you.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Yeah, we are on Chief Justice Highway, like very easy
to get her here on the highway.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I'll find you. Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
So much for having us.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Thank you pleasure. Thanks again. All right, we get back.
We're going to go to the news hour and at
nine o'clock and we're going to talk about the problem
at Mass and Casts. It's been there forever they've tried
to deal with it. It just won't go away, the
problem of Mass and Casts. And we'll talk with the
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South End resident about the living in that neighborhood and
it's not a place, a good place. That neighborhood is
not a good place. Right now, back on nights out
after this
It's night with Dan ray I'm telling you crazy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Thanks very much, Madison. Good evening everyone. As we move
into a Tuesday. By my calendar, it says it's June tenth,
so we are in June, the sixth month of the year,
and we are like twenty days from the halfway point
of twenty twenty five. Tempest fugit. That's what they used
to teach us in Latin school back in the day.
(00:27):
My name's Dan raym the host of Nightside, heard every
Monday through Friday night from eight until midnight right here
on WVZ, Boston's News Radio ten thirty on your AM dial.
Rob Brooks is back in the control room, and we
will start off of the first hour as we always do,
the night Side News Update, with four guests who have
(00:47):
information on various topics. You're going to talk about the
Battle of Bunker Hill two point fifty, a big commemorative
event coming up. We'll be talking about that. We'll talk
with Kelly Eisner of the American Red Cup US here
in Massachusetts about a blood shortage, something that all of
us can help alleviate if you are so inclined. And
(01:08):
then later on We're going to talk about women becoming butchers.
Apparently there is a paucity of female butchers. I don't
think I've ever run into a female butcher, but we'll
talk about that. We're going to start off with doctor
Dean Suitor. He is the organ Distinguished Professor of Urban
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Entomology at the University of Georgia. Doctor Suter. Hope, I
pronounced that name correctly. How are you this evening?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
That's perfect, Dan. How are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I'm doing very well. Always nice to hear a Georgia
accent here up in New England and all up and
down the East coast of America. On WBZ. We know
a lot about nasty bugs and spiders and things like that.
We talked last week with an expert about the spotted
lantern fly. It sounds lovely, but it's a nasty it's
(02:03):
a nasty bug. But tonight we're going to talk about
Asian needle iiots. They do not sound like they're any
fun at all. And why don't we explain to us
what an Asian needleiot? I hope I never run into one. Yeah, yeah, yes,
they're the more prevalent in our world than maybe I
(02:27):
realized tell us about them.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Yes, So the Asian needleland was that it was actually
first discovered in Georgia back in the nineteen thirties and
couple of surrounding states. It was pretty well established at
that time, but specimens started showing up in natural history museums,
and so for the longest time, well since the thirties,
nobody was It really didn't garner a lot of interest
(02:51):
till probably twenty five years ago several scientists from Clemson
University started working on its biology and ecology. And what
really brought the latest notoriety of this critter is that
in my job Dan, I interfaced with the public quite
a bit, and last year I got several, I'm probably
(03:14):
three or four cases where homeowners had contacted me here
in Georgia who had been stung by this ant and
wound up in the hospital with anaphylaxis and nearly died.
And when I hear that that that's a trend to me.
So the folks at Clemson kind of they they sounded
this alarm ten years ago, but it really if you
(03:35):
talked to an entomologists in the southeast and probably up
and down the East Coast, you'll find people who have
held who have encountered cases where you know a client
has had anaphylaxis.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
So so we have ants up here. I'm not an entomologist,
but I'm aware of my surroundings. And we have black ants,
and we have red ants, and I guess they are
a carp ther ants, and you know, more a variety
of species. But where the heck did this species come from?
(04:07):
And why is it all of a sudden after having
been fairly stable in one area of the country. Not
that we want to keep them in Georgia, but they
end up Are they in New England as well? At
this point?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, there are reported cases of them in New England
all the way up the east coast. So my hunch
is that they're probably not as widely distributed in New England,
but they have been reported from several several states in
New England. So the areas that are characterized where you
find this ant, it's going to be hardwood areas with
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a kind of open understory underneath the hardwood, so oak trees,
oak areas, spices like that, and it's I think the
reason why it hasn't garnered a lot of tension over
all the years is because it's just it's a three
sixteenths of an inch kind of boring little ant that
crawls around on the on the surface of the sidewalk
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and nobody really pays attention to it until you're working
in the garden one day and you get stung by it,
and if you if you are susceptible to anaphylaxis, you
can wind up in the hospital. So it's it's one
of these things that we're what we're telling people is
learned to identify it. And if you you can go
to your county extension agent you could probably send them
(05:21):
to you mass Amherst and get them identified if you so,
if you know what it is, you can you can
kind of avoid it. But it and identification is really
not for the novice. You can take a good picture
of it, send it to U mass somebody there can
identify it, and then you have at least your you're
armed with the with the evidence. They either have it
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or you don't have it on your property. That's important.
That's step number one.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Okay, are they pictures of the Internet so someone could google,
you know, and not wait for the ad to appear
and get a picture. Are they reddish are they. What's
the coloration.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
They're kind of blackish brown, about three sixteen seven ants inch.
But they don't they don't crawl. They don't they don't trail.
So you'll see them crawling and they look like they're lost.
They'll be all by themselves and they'll just be crawling
on the substrate. They kind of look harmless. And there's
a there's a website called Ants of the Southeastern US.
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If you google that, there's some really great images of
the of the Asian needlelant on that website. You know,
the good thing about this and is it does not
come inside like many pest ants that come inside and
come after your dog food or cafood. This critter tends
to stay outside. And the thing about it is it's
most abundant during the time when we're outside doing our thing.
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You know, we're working in the garden and that kind
of thing. So when I'm when I'm here and I'm
working in the garden, if I pick up something that's
laying on the ground, I look at it, I look
underneath it, because that's what they like to do. They
like to live in underneath patio stones and and and
logs that are laying on the ground. That's their favorite place.
And so we try to get people to clean that
stuff up and keep your firewood piled up off the
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ground so it doesn't so it doesn't get wet. They
really like wet wood.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I'll tell you, it's amazing that these these invasive species.
I assume this is all because we're doing more international
trade in the twentieth century than we did in the nineteenth.
And we're doing more international trade. This must be an
offspring of international trade. Not only just these needle ants,
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but also the longhoined beetle and the juro spider and
the lantern fly. And is that a safe assumption that
I'm making.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
My way off is that now that's safe. International commerce
is the way these things move around. So, as a
graduate student that was working on the Port of Savannah
is one of the busiest ports in the US, and
so he was looking at the ants associated with the
Port of Savannah several years ago. He identified forty three
species of ants on the port, and a third of
them were not native to the US, so they weren't
(08:01):
highly invasive, but they were not They were what we
call exotic. They're from a different from a different land,
and they had just established on the port and we're
doing their thing along with all the native ants. But
a third of the a third of the fauna ant
fauna on the port was was were exotic ants.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And I'm assuming that these never go extinct, correct, I mean,
you know we always hear about the bald eagles going
extinct or whatever. You know that these beautiful creatures, but
any chance like they go extinct at that point.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
No, No, the e word eradication is not used by entomologists.
That they don't. That's a bad word in entomology because
once once a critter gets established somewhere, it's really hard
to eradicate. You can manage it, and that's what we
recommend is if you're thinking about this ant on your
property or other of you have other pest problems, call
your local pest control company. But uh, eradication is a
(08:57):
bad word.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
You you you.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
Can, you can them down but and keep them at
a smaller population level. But eradication is not not really
not really possible in most cases.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I mean most people will say that it's it's even
a horrible species. Every species has a purpose. I'm not
an entomologist, and that that most entomologists would say, even
if you could eliminate a specific species, it would not
be the right thing to do. Are you I assume
you're in that camp, right.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well, the thing about this critter is not it's not
from this It's not from North America, right, So it
evolved in Asia, and so there are certain there are
certain biological traits that when an invasive species comes in
and it falls out of the container. Uh, there's certain
invasive there's certain traits that allow it to kind of
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elbow its way in. And so we see that with
invasive ants, especially this one when it when it has
moved in and there's other invasive ants. This does do
this when they move into an area, that really simplify
the ecology and they can really mess up the area
because one of the things they do is they drive
our native ants to extinction and they dominate because they
dominate the they dominate the food resources. So that's kind
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of the kind of the issue with invasive ants. And
on top of that, this one happens to be a
pretty pretty important medical past. So it stings and can
put you in the hospital.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Okay, So therefore it wouldn't be a bad thing if
some scientists came up with a way to eliminate these
or least ship them back to China.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
If we get to find a way to control it,
that's the that's the golden thing.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Yeah. Well, doctor Dan Souter, I enjoyed it very very much,
The or Can Distinguished Professor of Urban Entomology, University of Georgia.
That's a pretty good football program down there. You're gonna
have to deal with Belichick though, I think at some point. Yeah,
just just watch out for his girlfriends. She kind of
controls the situation. You've got to know that. Thanks, docor Sooner.
(11:01):
I appreciate it very much. Enjoyed the cover.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Have a great evening.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I sure will. When we come back, we're going to
talk with Jonathan Lane. He's a historian, and we're going
to talk about the Battle of Bunker Hill, the two
hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Battle of Bunker Hill.
It's a commemorative event. It's not going to be taking
place in Charlestown. It's going to be taking place in Gloucester.
By the way, we will have a new opportunity for
(11:29):
you to connect with us here on night Side, we
are putting into place on the free iHeartRadio app, which
all of you, I hope by now have brought down
and put on all your devices. We have a talk
to us what's called the one app.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
For those of you maybe who don't want to wait
on the telephone, you can simply tap the record button
on the full screen player and you can voice just
what you want to say. You get thirty seconds and
you'll know how to run it, probably intuitively, and Rob
(12:07):
will get Rob or Maria will get your statement, and
we'll be able to play it through the new one
tap portion of the iHeart app. Now, I know may
sound a little confusing to you, but just be with me.
Get the iHeart app, bring it down, it's free, doesn't
cost you anything, put it on all your devices. Make
us your preset, your first preset. Therefore, every time you're
(12:30):
listening to Nightside, if there's something that you want to
weigh in on, it's not as instantaneous as calling the show,
but it gives you an opportunity to say what's on
your mind in about thirty seconds. You can write it
down if you're a little nervous, whatever, and you can
record it and Rob will get it and you may
hear it back in the year shortly after you send
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it in. In the meantime, we will be right back
here on Nightside and we're going to talk about the
Battle of Bunker Hill, number two fifty coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm w b Z,
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
All right, let us now proceed, and I'm delighted to
reintroduce to you, gentlemen. Who's been a guest a couple
of times with us already, Jonathan Lane. He is a historian. Jonathan,
how are you tonight?
Speaker 5 (13:19):
Hey, Dan, Thanks very much for the opportunity. It's a
good year, the two hundred and fiftieth.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Well, yeah, the good thing about it is we're just
starting it when you think about it, and we're going
to talk about the Battle of Bunker Hill. Now. The
actual date for the Battle of Bunker Hill, I think
is June nineteenth. Is that not correct? June seventeenth, seventeenth, Okay,
I knew it was one of those. That's okay, June seventeenth.
(13:45):
So this event is going to be held on that
day or will it be held on the weekend prior to.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Well, we actually have a whole ten days worth of
events that people can attend, both in the neighborhood of
Charlie Town in Boston and also of course culminating in
the sort of grand scale reenactment that's going to happen
up in Gloucester on the twenty first and twenty second.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Okay, so the dates we're talking about is a Saturday
and Sunday. That's where I got confused. Four.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Yeah, for the reenactment, that's true. But events actually have
already started this week in Charlestown and.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
They're on Yeah, go ahead, Oh.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
It's you know, it's absolutely amazing. So the City of
Boston archaeologist has been trying to uncover remnants of the
town of Charleston, which of course was entirely destroyed during
the battle and four hundred and five hundred houses, and
the archaeology he's doing is really helping us to understand
the lives of the people who lost everything in this battle,
(14:48):
even if they weren't actually on the battlefield. So there's
continuing work being done on that. We've got the parade
on Sunday, which is an epic opportunity for people to
come out and showcase their love for this history and
for the veterans who really work hard to put that
event together. Actually on Saturday, of course, June fourteenth is
(15:09):
the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the United States Army,
and a lot of the veterans in the Army look
upon Bunker Hill as their first battle, even though quite frankly,
they didn't know they were in the Continental Army at
that point, but they would find out soon enough when
George Washington arrives to take command. So we'll be doing
(15:31):
a lot of two hundred and fiftieth Birthday of the
United States Army event since at Bunker Hill on Saturday,
there's going to be a flag garden, a memorial flag
garden for the thousands of men who gave their lives
not just on the American side, but also on the
British side. This battle was devastating to the British Army.
(15:54):
They lost more men in this battle than they lost
in any other battle during the entire eight year war
for American Independence, and so we want that.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah, they really changed the way they thought.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
The Gloucester event, which is going to be the following weekend,
the twenty first and the twenty first and twenty second.
Why is it in Gloucester and not in Charlestown.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
You know, any public historian, our historian of any stripe
would really want to be on the hill on the day,
which is why we're looking forward to the events on
the seventeenth. But in reality to put on the kind
of grand scale reenactment that has been planned. We have
a thousand reenactors coming from all over the United States
(16:42):
to participate in this, as far away as the Carolina's
coming up to participate, to showcase not just the lives
and actions of the British soldiers and the provincial soldiers,
but also of the citizens of Charlestown who, as I
said before, lost everything. So we we need space. We
need a park with a hill that can accommodate these
(17:07):
all of these reenactors and their camp since many of
them will be camping out, And of course we needed
it by the ocean because the maritime component is very important.
We have four ships that are going to come in
and stand in for the British navy that surrounded Charlestown.
And at the end of the day, when we started
(17:28):
looking around for spots that then Diagram got smaller and smaller,
and we finally found a place at stage Fort Park
in Gloucester, and they have been wonderful partners and we're
looking forward to encouraging everybody to go to Charlestown, the
Hill where it happened, and then come on up to
Gloucester to see history reimagined or really it's.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Such important history and it really does spread it out,
which I think is really good. It's wonderful that so
much of this people will have an opportunity to participate in.
There's got to be a website that we can send
people to in case they weren't taking notes during our conversation.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
I'm going to give you two websites. For all the
events in Charlestown, definitely go to b H two five
zero dot org so Bunker Hill two five zero dot org.
And then for the events up in Gloucester, I commend
you to Battle of Bunker Hill two fifty dot com.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Sounds great, sounds great. Well, look, Jonathan, I really do
appreciate you are really a compendium of information, particularly when
it comes to Revolutionary war history, and there's no better
person to talk to than you, So I thank you
for joining us tonight, and maybe we can fit in
(18:44):
on one other event, or maybe we can do something
next week to talk about if you get a breadth,
a breadth an opportunity just to take a breather, we
could do something quickly in advance of the Gloucester activity.
We'll see if we can work schedules that way.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Okay, that would be terrific. I'd just like to share
one more thing, which is that all of these events,
they are trying to tell the stories of some of
the underrepresented voices at Bunker Hill, so more than one
hundred and fifty patriots of color fought. The first indigenous
person was killed at the Battle of Bunker Hill on
the American side. So we're looking forward to getting people
(19:24):
involved in all of the stories.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Okay, sounds great, Jonathan, we'll talk again. Thank you so much.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Thanks Dan, have a great night.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You too. When we get back, right after the news,
we're going to talk about a short age your blood
for Red Cross. This is the time of year, going
into some of the bad storms of the summer season,
the hurricane season. When we talk with Kelly Eisner right
after the news at the bottom.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Of the hour, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray
on w BEZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
All Right, the Atlantic hurricane season is now underway. I
think it runs June July, August, September and stops a
Remember first, so far, we've been lucky, no hurricanes. We
got ten days down and whatever the rest. One hundred
and forty to go with me is Kelly Eisner, spokesperson
for the American Red Cross here in Massachusetts. Kelly, I
(20:13):
understand that the American Red Cross needs blood throughout the year,
but apparently we're a little low right now. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Well, you know, this is that time of year where
we remind people that yes, exactly like you said, hurricane
season has started. It's the time of year where we're
thinking about you know, summer plans, getting away, going to
the Cape. You know, maybe not today with cold and rainy, but.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
No, yeah, I know, don't remind me, Kelly.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
But you know in the midst of all that hospitals
need blood three hundred and sixty five days a year.
You know, blood has a shelf life of forty two days.
So if you donate blood today, that blood will won't
be able to be transiated the patient after about mid July.
So we just want to remind people that, you know,
(21:05):
as everything else is going on, as hurricanes happen, as
they start to talk about hurricanes, I mean, yeah, I
love your ten day countdown, but you.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Know that we're good so far.
Speaker 6 (21:17):
Exactly, it's exactly, but there is that potential. And you know,
we see like last year was a really bad season
for hurricanes, and what happened is when they do hit,
that affects the blood supply as well, because you know,
if it's dangerous to go out and give blood, we
can't have our staff go out and keep running blood drives,
and we wouldn't ask our donors to go out in
(21:39):
that so it all has a compounding effect.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
So yeah, well, there are some people in my audience
who I know are dedicated blood donors. Just remind all
of us, if you give blood today, when can you
do it again? What is the amount of separation that
you have to have between two blood donations.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
It's about six weeks. It's actually fifty six days exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Okay, well we can, yeah, we can fifty six days. Okay,
Well that's actually eight weeks, so it's a little more
than did make sure what division there? Okay, So sixty
days whatever. Okay, are there people who really give four
or five times on a regular basis per year? There?
(22:27):
Do you have your your regular donors?
Speaker 6 (22:30):
There are we see donors. It's not uncommon to see
people wearing five gallon or ten gallon tins every time
you give. It's about a kind of blood, so you
know that adds up. And if you're starting to count
in gallons, it means that you're pretty regular with your appointment.
But I'll do even one betther. We at our DETI
Donor center and all our fixed site blood donor centers
(22:54):
is where we collect platelets, and I will I work
out of our DEBTI office and I will see the
same platelets owners every week. You can give platelets a
little bit more often, and I get to know people
in the parking lot. I recognize their faces as they're
moving in. It's really incredible you can give platelets.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Is there a health benefit for the donor either who
donates the blood or donates the platelet, assuming they're healthy
and all of that, and they're not, you know, wearing
themselves down. But is there any sort of a health
benefit for the people who are generous donors?
Speaker 6 (23:28):
I think the benefit is more that you feel great
after doing it because you're literally helping save a life,
Like an hour of your time could make a life
saving difference in someone's in their own health. I you know,
I'm sure there's probably anecdotal stuff about you know, people
giving blood.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (23:48):
I don't really know about that. I've not seen a
lot of science on it. But I will say you
feel good just knowing that you're doing a good thing.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Now. I have a list of locations. There are six
six locations here, well, there are many locations. My producer
Karen Bussemi left me a list of different you know,
not your permanent locations. Everywhere, everywhere from I think every
(24:16):
town in Massachusetts and Over Danvers, Georgetown, Ipswich, Lawrence, Linfield, Merrimack,
Mathu and no Report North Andover, Salem, Salisbury, Topsfield, Arlington, Burlington, Cambridge, Chelmsford, Framingham, Hopkinton, Lexington, Lowell.
I feel like Gary Lapierre reading or no school announcements, Melrose, Natick, Newton,
(24:37):
North Chelmsford, Pepperl bottom line is almost wherever you live
in Eastern Well. Let me finish out here, because I
was close to the end Pepperl reading Somerville, Sudbury, Tewksbury, Tingsboro, Wakefield, Waldam, Whyland, Westford, Weston, Wilmington,
Winchester and Wilburn. Those are all locations in all those
communities that you can go to the to the Red
(25:00):
Cross website with Kelly. You can provide us. With the
Red Cross website, you can look up and find a
location close to where you work or close to where
you live. This is a great list, by the way,
and this is also from June sixteenth to the thirtieth.
What's the website, Kelly.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
It's redcrossblood dot org. And because your point is a
very long list, if you just put your zip code in,
that'll bring up the ones that are closest to you,
closest to your zip code, sorted chronologically. And I actually
have to point out we also have six site donation
centers in western Springfield. And today it was the first
(25:40):
of a two day blood drive on Nantucket. Our whole
I put pictures on our social There was a a
very full of Red Crossers, Red crosslebontomous and truck drivers
that all went out to Nantucket Island to run a
two day blood drive there. And that blood drive is
expected to collect three hundred units, so we really are
(26:03):
all over the place. We try to make it as
easy as possible for the donors who get their time.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Were there any settings of Bill Belichick out there today,
I would.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Have heard, I think if there had been, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well he's got to get ready for the football season.
Well this is broken down also folks by county, because
if you know what county you're in, or just if
you know where you live, Essex County, Middle Middlesex County,
I assume you got Suffolk County in here as well.
Uh yeah, so this is this is a great a
(26:39):
great list for people to to go by. And again
it's it has to make people feel better and you
do get I think it's like cookies and and juice
when when you're in your as you're recovering comfortably. So
that alone would be enough. If an incentive for me,
I'll tell you that.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Oh, it's tell you for me, it's those little I
used to be oreos. That was sort of my go
to post blood donation snacks, but lately I've been into
those little fruit snacks. They're oh I don't think they're
made from fruits. They're probably all sugar, but they taste
so good after Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Oh, everything tastes better after that. Absolutely. Well, Kelly, first
of all, thank you so much for being with us tonight.
And I hope that people will go to the website
and think about they can give blood. I assume that
it's available. This is just not a money through Friday effort.
There'll be some weekend availabilities as well.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Yes, we do run seven days a week. We try
to do some morning blood drives, some evening blood drives,
just to really meet people where they're at. Make it again,
make it easy.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Sounds great, sounds great, Kelly, say hi to my friend
Nate and Telemon was asking for them. Okay, that's Kelly's wife, Parwell.
I don't know that. One of my great camera men
at Channel four in another in another my prior life
television he was a he's a good guy. Okay, coch
(28:06):
He made me sitting there. All right, Thanks Kelly. We'll
talk soon of the American Red Cross. That's great, all right.
When we get back after the break, we're going to
talk about going to talk with a woman who owns
uh a gourmet butcher's shop, but it's really pronounced it's boucherie.
(28:28):
Gourmand in Cohasset, Massachusetts, about I guess getting more women
involved as butcher's something I'd never thought of. But we'll we'll,
we'll fill you in with all you need to know.
Coming back on night Side right after the break.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Delighted to be joined by Rosangela, Theodoro ros Angela. I
hope I got the both the first and the last
name pronounced correctly.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
Yes, you did, thank you. I'm glad, I'm I'm I'm
glad to be here.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Well, I'm glad you're here. Are you the owner of
Theodoro's Boucherie Gourmand? Yes, for the reason I take that
French class back in the day.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
It has you serve you purpose?
Speaker 7 (29:23):
Yes, yes, yes, thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
You grew up on a cattle farm in Brazil.
Speaker 7 (29:29):
Yes, I did. That's how my father starts his life.
He started his life was he barely finished fourth grade,
and then he got into the cattle business. And then
he built a big cattle business, over ten thousand heads
of cattle there.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
And so now you have a very fancy butcher shop.
But but boucherie gomand uh it go has it tell
us about that, and then I guess there are not
too many female butchers out there. I think the figure
is eleven percent? Is that in this country or internationally.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
In this country?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
In this country? Okay? And so tell us about Theodora's
Butchery Goman number one, and then tell us about why
we don't have more women who are butchers. I when
I think of every butcher shop that I've ever gone into,
it's I can't think of ever having walked into a
(30:34):
butcher shop. I've never been in your fine establishment and
watched a female butcher. I've watched a lot of male
butchers slice and dice, and there are artists when they
you know, cut meat up and just they they're almost
like magicians. Tell us about what you're doing. How we
(30:54):
get more women involved.
Speaker 7 (30:58):
I grow up in the industry, so my house was
full of cattle business people, and my dad had four
butcher shops. That's how he started first. So that's a
language I always here, you know, among my friends, among
his friends. So when I moved here and I found
like my son never get to know my father first
(31:19):
and my history. So I want to him to know
what was my background or my dad did through what
he did, how he started. So having the butcher shop
was kind of attribute to them, to my father. But
also I found like going to the supermarket, going to stores,
or going to other butcher shops, I found that it
(31:42):
wasn't well thought, you know, Like I was getting meat,
they wouldn't tell what it is, just tell me what
kind of meat I was getting. So and then I
look back at the farm at the big picture. No,
there's four years back before the cattle gets to.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Beat the beef.
Speaker 7 (32:01):
So I you know, when I eat a beef, I
can tell if it's a female or how old it is.
I kind of can get a sense. So when I
and I found that all these four years of the
farmer doesn't get translated to the end, you know, or
if the customer get a meat that's not for the
cut that he wants to eat, or we kind of
(32:23):
have to explain to them, Oh, you want to for grilling,
you use that kind of meat. You want for the
open you use another kind. So I found that it
was missing that they didn't know about what was behind
and I didn't want to know the farmer hard work
would not be you know well represented. Well, uh, places,
(32:45):
why why you opened your own shop and Cohasset, Yes,
it wasn't. I live in Cohasset. It's the south of Boston,
like an hour and I found out here there's a
lot of you know, people that go to the supermarket
walk all the way down until you get to a butcher,
and a butcher you just kind of just walk in.
(33:07):
My father used to say, we need more butcher shop
than pharmacy because you just go and get what you
want and just cook one thing.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's good. Now has your dad? Is
your dad still alive and has he been able to
go up and visit you?
Speaker 7 (33:22):
No, No, my dad passed away twelve years ago, and
that's why I opened the butcher shop. Yeah, I have.
I have a neural in his farm, you know when
he has a hat that he always wear a hat
and a cowboy boots was normal, and I have a
tribute to him on the wall. And I just want
to just like my son when he sees that he
(33:44):
sees you know, I'm telling the story that you never
get to know my dad and also be able to
tell the customers what go around the farm that they
didn't get to know them. So my store has shadow
that let the kids play and the set. I have
some cattle prods that they play around that I have
the hats that they always have something related to the
(34:06):
agriculture that they feel connect. If you stay here long enough,
are convinced to your two things, or be a butcher
or be a cattle ranchers.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
But so you grew you grew up in Brazil on
a cattle wretch, so you've been around cattle and beef
and all of this your entire life.
Speaker 7 (34:25):
All my entire life. And then my friends and you know,
I'm talking talking to them, and then my phone rings,
there's a problem in the farm, or oh where's where's
a cattle? A tractor fell turnover, so I need to
organize to turn it over back in uh had to
truck some cattle, organize everything that goes together. So they
found very interesting that I, you know, managed so easily.
(34:49):
It wasn't because I just manage it, just because I
grew up watching that.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Right now, you don't you don't have cattle in cohact.
I assume you.
Speaker 7 (34:57):
You no, Okay, Yeah, I don't go in there and
get them. Like today, I have to organize to get
three lamps I'm getting for a Father's Day and a
half cow to break down on Thursday.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
So where do you if I could ask, do you
have to come up, like to the to the meat
markets in Boston.
Speaker 7 (35:18):
Or somewhere to know, I go to the UH. I
buy from the distributors some some you know, because people
into just the normal cuts, you know, the New York
strips feel less. But I also like to get whole
animals because then I can't have utilize the whole the
whole cut, you know, hold the whole cow and use
(35:38):
teach more the customer. They don't get just six eight
into some one kind of cut. You know, there's many
cuts you can use. If you cut properly, you know,
and you you know how to cook properly, you can
have a very nice, you know, good steak and keep
having more steak because the steak has a lot of minerals,
(35:59):
iron and your body needs, and it's very healthy. It's
not unhealthy.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah. No, I know that there are some people who
are vegetarians and pescatarians and all of that, but I like,
I'm a big hamburger guy. That's what I like.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Yeah, meat is very good for you because you know,
like you get you I get my memory is very good.
You know, I'm fifty five and a lot of people
think I'm not fifty five and I haven't done anything. Yeah, yeah,
you know it's it's.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
Healthy for you, good well and also help for environment,
you know, because we we move the kettles and you know,
the kettle comfort grass that wouldn't be able to we
won't be able to utilize carries out there on the field.
We don't need to make, you know, big project or
a house for them to stay. They can stay there.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Yeah. No, absolutely, there's a lot more to it. There's
a lot more to it, Los angel So I appreciate
I learned a lot tonight.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
The owner of Theodora's Boucherie Gomand in Cohassett, Massachusetts. Boucherie Gomand,
I assume is French.
Speaker 7 (37:11):
Correct, it's French, because I had a French friend that
I get to know here in cohas it that every
time I will go to her house, I will come
up with a little bag and then I made it
this meal and she's like, I just don't understand you
coming with this little bag and you make this beautiful
meal and we don't see this here. And then she
kind of you know, helped push me to open. So
(37:32):
that's like, you know, till there is my dad's Yeah,
till there is my last name in Buchery Goma is
a tribute to you know her that she really pushed
me to do very well.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
People will find you, Los Angela. Thank you very much,
and hopefully there will be more females joining the profession
of being coming butchers. Thank you so much.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
Thank you. I hope you come and visit us.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
If I get down that way, you can. Thank you
very much, Los Angela. I thank you.
Speaker 7 (38:03):
Yeah, we are on Chief Justice Highway, like very easy
to get her here on the highway.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I'll find you. Thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 7 (38:11):
So much for having us.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Thank you pleasure. Thanks again. All right, we get back.
We're going to go to the news hour and at
nine o'clock and we're going to talk about the problem
at Mass and Casts. It's been there forever they've tried
to deal with it. It just won't go away, the
problem of Mass and Casts. And we'll talk with the
(38:34):
South End resident about the living in that neighborhood and
it's not a place, a good place. That neighborhood is
not a good place. Right now, back on nights out
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