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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nights Side with Dan Ray. I'm doell you easy
Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Thank you very much, Madison Rogers, I am always cool.
The Red Sox, by the way, for those of you
who are keeping track, are now forty and forty a
five hundred baseball team. They play game number eighty one,
which marks the halfway point of the twenty twenty five
baseball season. Yikes, man, weirdest time go. My name's Dan Ray.
(00:27):
I'm the host of Nightside. We're gonna take you on
a quick four hour ride all the way just short
of midnight tonight. We have some interesting topics also some
interesting guests coming up during this hour. We'll have four
guests on different topics. A couple of topics I'll give
you a heads up are heat related, which is understandable
in view of what happened today here, well anywhere here
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east of the Mississippi or east of the Rockies. It's hot,
absolutely hot. So we will talk about that coming up
at nine o'clock tonight. There's a very interesting development in
a huge contract that the Massachusetts Department of Transportation Board
of Directors has awarded to a company from Ireland. The
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redevelopment of eighteen highway service plazas on and around the
Massachusetts Turnpike, much to the chagrin of a local company,
a great local company, Global Partners, and Global Partners President
and CEO Eric Slifko will join us to talk about
a very strong letter that his company that he has
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sent to Governor Morehley. And then of course we're going
to talk about the latest on what's going on in Iran.
First there was a ceasefire, then there wasn't a ceasefire.
Now it looks like they may be back to a ceasefire.
Stock market did great today. Oil prices plunged, now that's
not bad. And the Celtics are having a garage sale.
It looks like or at least a bit of a salary.
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We'll get to all of that, I promise again. I'm
Dan Ray. Rob Brooks is back in the control room.
Our first guest tonight, Dan Zinibart. He's an associate scientist
in applied ocean physics and engineering, and he's a Penguin
researcher down at the Woods Hall Oceanographic Institution. He's going
to talk about a study. He was not directly involved
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in this study, but he's going to talk about a
study that shows emperor penguins, not the Pittsburgh penguins. Emperor
penguins are showing a dramatic decline in one region in Antarctica.
I didn't even realize they had more than one region
down there, Dan Zinibart, how.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Are you.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Really good? Thanks for having me one.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You are more than welcome. So what's the deal. Emperor penguins,
I assume are probably at the top of the penguin
food chain, hence named emperor or do they have a
certain strut in style that has earned them that designation?
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Hm, let's clean.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
We're going to try to clean up that line here.
It sounded like you were at the Antarctica as opposed
to woods Hole. Are you back No, let's well, a
little bit of a soft start tonight. Let's see if
if my guest is back. All right, give it a
second time. Is always a charm. By the way, Dan
said of broad I don't know what you did there,
but I thought you moved to the Antarctica for a second.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
No, No, I'm not that far away.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Okay, So I've asked you this complic you get a
question about the name, I can hear you just perfectly
don't even move wherever you are, Okay, even if there's
a flock of Emperor penguins coming in the door, just
let them come in. How do they how do we
get the name emperor penguins? I'm kind of curious.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
It's the tallest of all penguins and the heaviest of
all penguins. That's why it's right all the oh, kind.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Of like a basketball player. Okay, we think of the
Penguins Pittsburgh, we think about hockey. Not now, I'll always
think about basketball when I think about Emperor p So
what's going on? They get a dramatic decline in one
region of Antarctica. Is is this something obviously we should
be worried about that. The question is how are you
should we be about this?
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I mean, you can be worried, for sure, we should
be worried about the indications we see so about five
years back that all the big studies showing that the
emperor penguin population are slightly going to be declining. And
this is because the species is so dependent on the
sea ice and how long, how stable the sea ice is,
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because they breed during the winter on the sea ice.
So you can imagine if it warms up like we're
having heat waves here, actually heatwaves in an Arctica as well.
And if things warm up too fast, the sea ice
which they breed on, where basically what they are standing
on all day, breaks away, then you lose entire generations
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of newborn Emperor penguins. And that's of course we'll have
a climb down the growth.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
So the baby penguins aren't yet able to swim or
navigate in water. I assume.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Correct if they have to lose you know, the plumb
feathers and get their adult sabus and offense, which I
want to prove. And if this yes breaks up before
that happens, they basically trou Oh this.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Is this is a bad news. Now. This is one
region of Antarctica. I caught that reference again. We asked
questions on this show, Dan which we don't script questions.
How many regions are there in Antarctica. Is this like
one area where we're having a problem, or is this
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a huge region that we're having a problem.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
It's about a quarter and one part of this region
is the fastest warming region. So the region what you
would expect those impacts to be first, and what we
don't know yet is if this is a trend or
if this is a fluctuation. One thing that really needs
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to be understood is we are observing now much better
than we have been observing twenty years ago, so our data,
the data we're getting now is way more detailed. So
we see such fluctuations, we all expect it to be
a trend, not just a fluctuation, but we will be
keeping having it to keep looking longer to make sure
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of that. The true problem is while this is one
species and we don't want to use any of the species,
especially not such a iconic species, this can also hint
to the health of the entirety of the ecosystem because
the emper penguin is at the top of a food web.
If a predator at the top of the food that
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doesn't do well, there can be many reasons for that,
and one of the reasons except the sea ice, can
be that its food supply is strengthing okay, and so
it gives us an indication of the ecosystem of the
Southern Ocean. So the emperor penguins stand is a bioindicator,
and that bioindicator is doing not well. The entire ecosystem
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is not doing well, and if the entire ecosystem in
the seven Ocean is not doing well, it really reduces
the so called ecosystem services. We have to keep in
mind that the Southern Ocean does a lot for us.
That solves a lot of heat, that it solves a
lot of CO two out of all the oceans in
the world because it's so cold, and that actually helps
us helps the world not too warm too fast. So
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while we are talking about one species and the decline
of the species, the impact which this tells us is
that in the future we might have to deal with
even more heatwaves.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I assume that the penguins in Antarctica basically are fish eaters.
I'm assuming that correct.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Fish and squid and krill, So.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Sure the stuff that you would figure is there an
indication that that food supply is diminishing or is it
too early to tell.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
We know that with less sea ice, you have less
algae growing in that sea ice, and then that will
have a condition unless krill being able to grow because
the krill eats on that algae. So algae stays under
the sea ice and then blooms onto the CS is
gone and it really needs the C. I S the
specific algae, get a list there so vers an indication
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the system that is rather slow. So we actually that's
the concerning part. We would not expect to see any
signal yet all the world was okay, here's totaly another
decade or two into this, reallyal lives in an Arctica.
And if that signal is true and it really arives
now and we already can see those massive changes as
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our colleagues showed, then that's concerning.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Okay, Dan, our connection is not great. I don't know
what sort of a phony you're You're down in woods Hall,
I assume right.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
No, I'm excer Seattle.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I know in Seattle, Washington. But that's okay. Are you
on like a headset or something or just that.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
I just have my phone in my head, just your
cell phone.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
How well, we didn't. We didn't luck out on the quality,
but we've I think I've understood uh and my audience
has understood the message, which is most important. So I
thank you very much for for for sticking with us
on this, because I know it was probably not a
lot of I know it wasn't easy on your nd
easy either. I hope that you could hear me a
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little more clearly than we could hear you, But thank
you for having joined us, and we'll keep an eye
on it, and maybe the next time we talked to you,
you'll be a little closer to home and the reception
will be cleaner all around. So wonderful, Thank you very much,
nice to talk to you. Enjoy your time in Seattle.
When we get back, we're going to go to the
other end of the spectrum here. We're not going to
talk about Antarctica and sea ice. We're going to talk
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about Boston's extreme heat and its impact on peak energy demand.
Although schools are not in business, air quality on schools,
there are some schools I guess that are still in operation.
And also we're going to talk about urban heat islands.
I'm going to talk with Sharon Rawn. She's an assistant
director of public health at the Metropolitan Area Planning Council
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here in Massachusetts. We're going to come right back on Nightside.
My name is Dan Ray, and I assure you Sharon's
phone reception contact is going to be a little cleaner
than Dan's was. Back on Nightside right after.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
This, You're on Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm w Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
All right, welcome back everybody again. One of our themes
tonight is, of course Boston's extreme heat, a lot of
heat here in New England, Ah, well, really anywhere in
the eastern two thirds of the United States. And we're
going to talk with Sharon Ron. Sharon is the assistant
director of Public Health at the Metropolitan Area Planning Council
here in Massachusetts. Welcome to nightside, Sharon. How are you.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
I'm good, Hi, Dan.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
How about explaining I certainly have heard and some of
our listeners have as well, exactly what the Metropolitan Area
of Planning Council does.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
Yes, of course, so Metropolitan Area Planning Council or MAPC,
we're there, regional planning agency for the one hundred and
one cities and towns in the Greater Boston area.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
And under that umbrella of those one hundred and one towns,
what sort of planning are you involved in? I assume
that part of it has to be energy consumption and
energy availability.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Yes, absolutely so. We have a green energy team that
does a lot of work around energy consumption and green
energy and energy efficiency. We also do land use planning,
so thinking about housing, open space, and recreation needs. I'm
on the public health team. So we're working a lot
with local public health departments and doing similar sort of
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planning exercises for planning for the future, and also thinking
through what are the policies, the programs and environmental changes
that the local public health departments have under their jurisdiction
that we can support them with.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Okay, so all of us know that today was a
miserable day unless you were inside in an air conditioned
office building where you weren't paying for the electricity that
was running the air conditioners. But how much of a
heat load was put onto the electric and you know,
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energy providers here in Massachusetts, this must have been a
tough day for ever Source and National Grid and those
all UNITIL and all those sorts of companies.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I assume, yeah, it definitely was. We have a peak
demand end program where we're looking at when those utility
providers are expecting the peace demanded. Today this afternoon, right
now is during a projected peace demand hered And actually, Dan,
I am sitting here right now, and right before you
called me, I had a power outage because of the heat.
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So I am living it as we speak.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Well, I hope that you're not near where I am
because I have to be in the air for another
three and a half hours. So I hate to say this,
but if I had a choice between it happening to
you or me, I hate to say that, but I hope,
I hope you're able to get out of Are you
in the are you at home or in your office building?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I'm at home. Well, these urban heat islands that we're
worried about.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh yeah, you know, urban heat islands. I know that
that became a little bit of a big issue with
the the reconstruction of the new White Stadium and the
new soccer team that is going to play there a
couple of years from now. A lot of the tree
in Franklin Park near the near White Stadium, the footprint
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of White Stadium we're taken down, and I know a
lot of people in the community were quite upset about that.
A heat island basically is a place where there's a
paucity of vegetation and trees at a plethora of a
cement and rose fairly accurate definition of what we're talking about.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Yeah. Absolutely, And I think that the concern is not
these spaces not only are becoming much hotter during the
day because of all of that paved surface absorbing and
radiating the sun heat. But they also don't cool off
as well at night. So it's one thing if it's
the park, but if it's in a neighborhood where people
are living and they're not able to cool down at night,
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that's when we're starting to really see those negative health
outcomes because your body's just getting no relief from the heat.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah. You know, today, for the first time in my memory,
you watch the news and you hit the weather. Today.
Of course was the leads to and they were talking
about one hundred and one degrees and then the real
feel and all of that stuff. But for the first
time today I saw some of the weather forecasters talking
about what the actual heat was on the pavement in
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various communities. I have never seen that on a Boston
Weather's channel before. Maybe I've missed it, but they were
saying that the pavement in and around Boston, the pavement,
of course, the roadways and the sidewalks up to like
one hundred and thirty six degrees. When I saw that number,
I said to myself, I'm leaving my car idle today.
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I'm not going to put my poor car and the
four tires on one hundred and thirty six degrees pavement.
Had you ever seen had did you happen to see
that today in any of the weather forecasts? And did
I miss it?
Speaker 4 (15:47):
You know in the past, you know, talking about the
temperature of services versus the ambient tent pissure of air
is something that we certainly talked about and they're certainly linked.
But when it gets really hot and relentlessly funny like
it is today, the surfaces themselves become a hazard. And
I think that what you're talking about, concerned about the
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help and safety of your car is certainly what we
start worrying about is if you've cascading failures, because I mean,
roads are one thing, but you have seen it with
trains where the surfaces of the train mails get so
hot that they start to buckle, and so it can
cause in my neighborhoods the power line started to stay
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set on fire. And so actual surface temperature is starting
to cause damage unto themselves.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
So I'm going to ask that question. I have never
seen that before on a weather forecast on television pil
they'll give you the temperature, and they'll give you what
the windshield factor is or they'll give you the heat
in decks or whatever all of that. But have you
ever seen there was a full screen today that was saying,
you know, roadways in Boston one hundred and thirty six
degrees and somewhere else. I've never seen that before. Have
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I just been clueless or have you actually seen that
in the context of a television weather forecast.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
I have not seen it in the context of a
television in the forecast. You were one hundred percent right.
I normally see it in the context of people talking
about surfaces and playgrounds and where.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Oh. Absolutely. But I will bet you that as this
summer wears on, and if we get some more temperatures
like today or even close to today, that this will
become a regular feature on some of the weather forecasts.
I just think that you that someone came up with it,
and maybe they've been doing that in Houston and Phoenix
for years, but you never would have thought you've seen
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it in Boston. So equality in schools most schools, I
assume at this point out for the year, right, are
we worried about schools at this point?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Well, we're worried about schools because more and more schools
are using or more and more districts are using their
school this district sorry school buildings for summer programming, and
so they are the same old buildings that were in
session a few years ago, and they are just as
ill prepared for heat when their summer sessions as they
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were when they were in for normal session. But you're right,
I think the majority of students now are out for summer,
but it doesn't remain the concern.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Well, Sharon Ron, thank you very much. Sharon is the
assistant director of the Public Health of Public Health at
the Metropolitan Area of Planning Council in Massachusetts. Thank you
for the work you do, Sharon, and thank everyone else
there as well. Thank you so much for joining us tonight,
and I hope you get your power back as soon
as possible.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Thanks Dan, have a good evening you too.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
We will talk about ways to protect your mind and
body when heat rises at eight forty five. However, when
we get back, we have some advice for parents on
how to navigate the summer months while balancing work, family,
and an increasingly complex world. Heather Wilson, co founder of
give Segal, who's going to join us right after the
news at the bottom of the hour get out of
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the way. Here comes the news. It's coming down the track.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WAZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
What a welcome. Heather Wilson. She's the co founder of
an organization called Give, Send and Go. She has some
advice on how parents can navigate the summer months, which
upon which they're just about starting while balancing work, family,
and increasingly complex world. Heather, A lot to talk about here.
How are you the.
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Saving I am doing well. How are you good?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Where are you folks located?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
I am down on the eastern shore of Maryland, but
most of our employees just work remotely all around the world.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Oh okay, so tell us what does your group? Give
said to go? What do you do?
Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:45):
So, GIFs and Go was started about ten years ago
a couple siblings and I as a place for people
to fundraise easily online and that we share hope. Well,
people are fundraising, so we know some of the big
crowdfunding PLA forms that are out there. We are similar,
but I would say a little better.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Okay. So, uh so it's founded Vice Vice ad byce
some folks. You know, how did people interact with it?
I'm trying to understand what you what what what people
can can can glean glean from your organization is the
word I was looking for. Go ahead, what what? How's it?
How's it? How's how can my listeners be helped by
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give send and go.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah, so if you were to go to give sendgo
dot com, you would see a bunch of people raising
money for all sorts of things. And so how it
works is and again me and two of my siblings
started this ten years ago. And how it works is
that you would go on and you'd say I need
to raise money. Maybe you get in a car accident
and uh it was an unexpected expense, and so you
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go on to give send Go, You start a campaign
and then you share it across social media saying I
need some help. I was in this card car accident.
Can you please help me? And people it's a fundraising site.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Okay, So this is like go fund me.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
It is very similar. A couple of differences where in
more countries available in more countries around the world, our
payment processing fees are less, and we have a hope
aspect of it, where we don't just say you're on
your own, go try to raise funds we say we're
going to step in and let you know that you're
not alone while you're raising your funds.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
So what can you do to help someone. Let's assume
somebody has a I don't know, they have three kids,
and they want them to go to summer camp, and
one wants to go to a soccer camp in this direction,
another one to go to a basketball camp in that direction,
and another wants to go to a music camp thirty
miles in the other direction. And the mom or the dad,
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or maybe it's a single parent, they're they're being pulled
in three different directions. And each camp starts at nine
o'clock runs from nine to three, So you can't drop
all of them off simultaneously. You can't afford to buy
a helicopter and buy them parachutes. Is that the sort
of person who can contact you and you guys will
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help set up a page for them to to to
make an appeal. Is that the way it works. I'm
trying to I'm trying to understand it as best I can,
so you know it. Yeah, I'm giving you hypotheticals that
I think might work. Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
Yeah, So it's not necessarily that we step in and
help with their every day shuffling kids around.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
You're in Maryland, right, I get it, you're in Maryland.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Originally it would be great. I have my own children,
so so.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
What So someone contacts you and says, gee, I got
three kids are going in this direction. It's gonna I
can drive one of them, but I gotta get some
other parents and I got to chip in. I gotta
raise some money and the tuition.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
For these kids to raise. Yeah, maybe you need to
raise money for your summer camp, right, Like, camps are
expensive if you're gonna send your kids camp, and you
know that grandma would love to chip in, and maybe
a couple of aunts and uncles or whoever. You have
some people that you know that would be willing to
help because they know you're kind of in a tough
spot with these stray kids and make an ends meet.
(23:14):
And so you come on to gifts end Go you say,
I need help raising money for summer camp this year.
I really think it's going to be a great opportunity
for my children. And you just start a campaign on
gifts end Go. You do it yourself. We have a
little AI guy who helps you create your campaign and
it's very very easy for people to set up and
(23:35):
then you just start sharing it across social media saying
hey grandma, hey sister, can you help me? This is
where I am here. I have these three kids, they
all need to go to summer camp, and you know that.
You know, my husband just got laid off and things
are really tight. And then your friends and family. The
way it works is your friends and family and community.
It gives an easy place for them to come around
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you and step up and help for the different needs.
A lot of times we see it more in the
like tragedy type of things, like something really unexpected happens,
right like you get a diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Yeah no, yeah, yeah, we we all can allow our
imaginations to run there. So here's my question. If you're
going to basically reach out to Grandmama, you know, Auntie Rita,
uncle Harry uh, and your long lost cousin in Philadelphia,
why do they need give send and go? I mean,
can't they? I don't. That's what I assumed. It would
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be one of these things where someone would put together
a pitch and they would put it out there in
in a in a forum, in a public forum, and
someone maybe in Kansas would look at it and say, oh,
I remember when I had three kids that summer twenty
years ago. When they're all gone and you know, different
compass points, and so that's it's more. They help you,
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help them develop a pitch that they can make either
to their local community, to their neighborhood, or to their
family and friends. That's what I'm beginning to hear, sound
sound like from you?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Yeah, So gift sung Goo is a fundraising site. That
is what we are. We're not a community a do
you have a refrigerator? Mine's gone.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Well, I'm not asking that question. No, no, no, no,
we're not on the same page. I just want to
make it clear from my audience that you could start
a go Fundme page and you could say, to go
fund me, I need money because my kids, they're all
teenagers and they want to do sports. I don't want
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them sitting at home. And you can go on GoFundMe.
What what service?
Speaker 5 (25:46):
So the same thing on gifts seng Go. We have
less processing fees. We have the same tools, if not more,
to help you share your campaign easily effectively across social media.
But really we are the same as far as what
we do. We allow people to raise funds easily online
from a community of people, and that we have people
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come on to our site looking for people to give
to you, but most of the time it's going to
be your friends and family because that's how fund raising works, right.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
And that's so you're you're different from goalfundme because whenever
I've seen and we do a lot of this here
uh here, and that's normally with you know, where the
tragedy has occurred, uh and and all of a sudden
a family's life has been turned upside down by you know,
some of the most horrible circumstances. And and oftentimes you'll
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see a goalfundme page and someone will set a goal
of raising fifty thousand dollars uh and they will exceed
that in the first day, and they'll have one hundred
thousand dollars and you'll find out that they, you know,
they've raised a college scholarship fund or something like that.
That's what I think. If it's gofund me, I guess
you could do that as well. But you're you're more
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laser focused on people who know your clients. So when
I come to you, you're going to say, well, who
are your friends, who are your relatives, who are your neighbors,
who can we.
Speaker 5 (27:16):
It's going to be the same as GoFundMe. It is
going to be the same thing. We are the second
largest platform undergo fundme. We are their direct competitor. Think
of how you think of GoFundMe. That is who we are.
We just yeah, like I said, we have less. We
have a couple of things that differentiate us, but it
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is going to be the same sort of process. As
far as what people we see a lot of those
tragedies and things like that as well on gibzend go.
That is how people raise ones.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
Yep, So you've been around how long now?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
We have been around ten years. This is our tenth year.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Did you predate go fund me because it sounds to
me like they probably came around that same time.
Speaker 5 (27:59):
Yeah, they were there a couple of years prior to us.
We had seen seen them and thought, what a cool idea?
Are there any other based type platforms like this? And
we launched.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Okay, uh, they got competition fair enough. Heather appreciates your
call very much. Thank you so much for talking with
us tonight. Have a great night, Thank you. Okay, back
on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Well as sometimes happened. Professional sports teams trade players and
sometimes when guests don't show who we expect to be available,
we sometimes go to the bullpen. And we're very lucky
to have Dan Watkins with us, who not only is
a news anchor, but he liked me, is also a
sports guy, and he probably is a little stronger than
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I am a couple of sports. I might be a
little stronger in baseball history. But Dan, let's talk about
the sell picks. They're offloading. They're they're doing a little
bit of what the the Red Sox did with Raffie Devers,
and they're floating some of their talent so that they
can uh diminish the amount of rep tax revenue they're
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gonna have to pay the league. What's going on?
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Yeah, So the Celtics, they keep reshaping this roster. Right,
they've stripped away some big time pieces from the championship
team last year. Drew Holliday gets traded last night to Portland,
back to his old team, right for the team, to
the team that the Celtics got him from a couple
of years ago. Uh, And in return they get a
guy in Anthony Anthony Simons.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
He'll know where the good news is when he gets
to Portland, He'll know how to get to the arena.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
You would think, so, well, sure.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
I mean, yeah, they forgot maybe sublet the the wows.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
I liked Holiday, I did too. I thought he was
everything that the Celtics need. He was that adult in
the room that that they desperately needed at the time.
And you know, he's gonna go down as a you know,
fans are gonna I think we'll always appreciate what Drew
Holliday did for this two years.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
One championship, right, that's not bad. Bat in five hundred.
Speaker 6 (30:03):
Absolutely, who's the guy.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
They're getting there getting a guy plus two draft choices,
second round choices, which is pretty good. I assume this
player is younger.
Speaker 6 (30:12):
Anthony Simons is his name. He's nine years younger than
Drew Holliday. He's only twenty six. He's got a year
left on his deal. He's making somewhere in the twenty
million dollar range heading in the next year, which was
a It is a salary cap relief because Holiday was
scheduled to make in the thirties.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But Holiday's also working on a four year deal.
Speaker 6 (30:28):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yes, and so not only next year, but whoever's got
him then.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Has to be responsible, big time deal. Okay, so they
did that. They peeled him away last night.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
They have you seen this this player for Portland again.
We see the Trailblazers once a year. They're not right,
they're not a you.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Know, they're not a marquee team.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
But yeah, they're not the Lakers. You got a line
in this guy's holiday.
Speaker 6 (30:51):
So he's a decent three point shooter. He's a really
good offensive player. Defense though, he is definitely a massive
downgrade from Drew Holliday. That is what I've read and
what I've heard. And then tonight the Celtics with another trade,
ESPN's Sham Shrania reporting that they're sending Kristaps Porzingis to
the Atlanta Hawks and part of a three team deal
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where Atlanta's sending their first round pick tomorrow night to
Brooklyn and the Celtics are getting George's Niang, who is
from Lawrence. He's a local guy. He's in his thirties.
He's another kind of a three point shooter guy.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
And then older player, the older Yeah, if he's in
his thirties, yes, as he bounced around. I had not.
Speaker 6 (31:29):
He has been with He had been with Cleveland for
a while. He was traded to the Hawks during the
season this year, so he's been He's a little bit
of a journeyman. We'll see if the Celtics hang onto
these guys or not, or if they're just if this
is just part of like a domino effect where they're
going to move them later on. Celtics also get a
couple of second round picks here in this deal too.
This one felt much more like a pure salary dump.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Well. Peringius also had some medical issues and short term
he had some sort of a bug this up spring
that limited his time in the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Right, and then he's also had you know, physical injuries
as well throughout the years too. So I'm guessing with
based off of the return, that there might have been
something going on with the medicals as well there that
Atlanta might not be totally sure what they're getting here
in Porzingis, and that's why the Celtics didn't get as
much back along with the salary to Porzingis, another guy
that's is set to make in the thirty millions of
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dollars coming up next season, where Niang is only on
the books for about eight million dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
So por Singis is going to play in an international
tournament this summer for his native lat FiOS. I understand
it correct.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Yeah, he usually does that whenever is the Foeba or
the whatever those those tournaments are called. There's so many
of them now, I can't keep them all away.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
From the Hawks. He seems to be such a fragile
player for you know, for a big center guy. I
don't know that I've won him playing that summer basketball.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Right, Well, yeah, I would assume so I would probably
feel the same way there too.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
But okay, now let's move. Let's move to baseball. Okay,
we're going to get in territory that we're both comfortable in.
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
So the Red Sox tonight, as you know, reached the
halfway point of the season. Yep, forty and forty has
a nice round ring to it.
Speaker 6 (33:17):
Perfectly perfectly balanced, Yes.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Perfectly balanced. Cora went nuts last night and was ejected
second straight night. Yeah, for good reason. I mean I
thought he was. I think he objected correctly. New York
wouldn't overturn the call, and he ended up with the umpire,
which to me seemed crazy. I mean, the replay seemed
to indicate that the hand was back on the bag.
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They got problems here. They In order to make the playoffs,
I'm thinking you got to get to about ninety wins
these days. So for the last eighty or so, they
got to go fifty and thirty. They got to go
twenty games over five hundred. Is that doable?
Speaker 6 (34:02):
I don't think that's doable. They are fortunate though that
the American League is down this year. So if you
look right now, the Red Sox are only a game
and a half out of that last spot. Teams like Seattle,
who the Socks have beaten this year ahead of them.
They got a huge series with the Blue Jays coming
up this weekend, who are a couple of games ahead
of them right now too. They just need to start
beating these teams that are, you know, right in their
way to getting to the playoffs. And they need to
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stop making these little league mistakes that they're making every
single night. I mean, that's the only way I can
describe what they're doing on the baseball field here. Most
nights you got guys dropping balls, the unearned runs. Yeah,
it's it's the I don't know if you saw. I
know it was the Giants.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Oh yeah, you're talking about Duran running into eating it
on that pop fly behind third base.
Speaker 6 (34:42):
That was over the weekend and then last night. This
was while you were on the air during during night's side.
But the double play that they hit themselves into, oh yeah,
was absolutely.
Speaker 2 (34:50):
I saw the replay on that and Dan, I'll tell
you a secret. Occasionally during a news break, I take
a little peek at the TV set.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Good for you, if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
So Hun did Dobbins and now has a little bit
of an elbow problem.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
Yep, they bring Fits back up.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, I like Fits. I got to tell you something.
I loved the guy last September. He didn't win a game.
I think he's zero to three this year. Uh, but
I just like his stuff. He looks to me like
a pitcher. He's got that that that lower body strength.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he's the best
thing the Red Sox have after Crochet in the second half.
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Are you buying that or no?
Speaker 6 (35:30):
They need someone to step up here because I've had
about enough of watching Walker Bueller every night. The guy's
saying the right things, but man, it is not working
right now. He was hurt earlier this year. Since he's
come back, his e RA is over eight, which is terrible.
Gilido has been you know, he's been okay. He's given
them innings, his velocities up, which is huge for him.
He needs that because he's really only throwing two pitches
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at this point with his fastball and his change up
and then yeah, other than that, and I still hold
out hope for Brian Bao to take that next step.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Looten looked, well, thank god the Bruin, Thank god the
rid Sox swept the Yankees. If they hadn't swept the Yankees,
that'd be six games under. Instead of being forty and forty,
they'd be thirty seven and forty three, and uh and
maybe all hope would be lost. I I I last
night they would have three nothing in the top of
the first and by the time the Angels had finished
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the inning they were with the Angels were winning five
to three. Peaceful. Where was that shutdown inning that Beulah
had to provide them?
Speaker 6 (36:32):
First first pitch home run for the.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Oils netto put it in the leftfield bleacher I happened
to be seeing. I saw that.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
I think he hit a couple when they were here
a few weeks.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yes he did, Yes he did. They got some. You know,
he's hitting better than Trout does at this point. At
this point, hey, Dan, you pinch it for me tonight, relief, pitch, whatever,
whatever metaphor. We want to use you the best. Thanks man,
I appreciate it, and I always.
Speaker 6 (36:55):
Enjoy talking with same.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
You really do same here back at you we get back.
We're going to talk with the president, the CEO of
Global Partners. This is a huge energy company here in Massachusetts,
been around almost one hundred years, founded by the family
of Eric slip Cup. He feels as if they have
gotten the short end of the stick on a huge
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deal that has gone out of state and out of country.
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