July 9, 2025 • 41 mins
Bradley Jay filled in on NightSide:
The history of aviation can date back way before the Wright Brothers achieved the first powered flight back in 1903. Historians believe kites and hot air balloons have been around for thousands of years. Micah Engber, host of the Airplane Geeks Podcast and cohost of The Journey is the Reward podcast checked in with Bradley about commercial, military, and general aviation topics and gave travel advice!
The history of aviation can date back way before the Wright Brothers achieved the first powered flight back in 1903. Historians believe kites and hot air balloons have been around for thousands of years. Micah Engber, host of the Airplane Geeks Podcast and cohost of The Journey is the Reward podcast checked in with Bradley about commercial, military, and general aviation topics and gave travel advice!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's night Side with Dan Ray and Denis Boston's Leech Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, welcome to the fourth hour of Nightside with Dan Ray.
Bradley Jay in for Dan, Micah and Ingber is a
longtime host on a podcast called Airplane Geeks Podcast. It's
a weekly audio program that Luke said, the world of
aviation and that includes military and general aviation, which is
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what you ride on when you ride around on an
airplane and go on a trip, and a lot of
times they have a prominent industry guest. If you're into airplanes,
you need to be part of that Airplane Geeks podcast. Also,
Mike is co host of a podcast called The Journey
Is the Reward and this is really where we'll focus
and it's the show that features trip reports, travel tips
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and tricks and.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Help you, you know, travel smart.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm always calling them up when I'm going on a
trip and tell on him how much I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Thinking about paying Is that a good deal?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And he's got all kinds of tips on like choosing
your seat and on and on and on.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So we're going to talk about things.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Related to travel via aviation and welcome to Nightside, Micah Bradley.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's great to be with you on the air. Really
missed you on the air and these past three nights
have been wonderful.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Thank you. And this is a show where you can
really call in.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Also, I'm very much into travel and I do have
the the Bradley J Travel YouTube channel and if you
want to find that, the best thing to do is
go to BRADLEYJ dot org and as a link to
everything I do.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So I'm going to give some tips tips as well.
I've got a couple of good tips. So what did
you say, Micah.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I was going to say, let me say, as you
know a travel guy, going to your YouTube channel, it's great.
I learned more from you than then sometimes I learned
from a lot of other places. You really describe a
city and you get the true feel of it. I
really I recommend people who just didn't travel looking at
your YouTube too.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Now, one of the podcasts you're involved with is Airplane Geeks,
and you are and you are truly an airplane geek
to the point where folks Micah and his pals they'll
just go on a trip just somewhere and not even
go to the place, they just want to ride on
the airplane. That Micah's friend Brian, He'll go to South
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Africa just to ride the airplane there and back.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's how into airplanes you are. You want to get
on the airplane. You want to know that it's a
seven eighty seven and what configuration?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You know all about it? Right?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I certainly try to And that's right. My co host
Brian on the Journey Is Reward podcast, he was working
to build his lifetime one case status with United and
we argue about points and travel rewards programs like that
all the time. But he wanted to get that status,
and so there were a couple of times he got
on the plane from San Francisco to Singapore, got into Singapore,
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waited until they turned the plane around, and came back
all in, you know, fourteen hour flights each way, just.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
For the miles, right, either just for the miles. He
likes riding on airplanes. So what other airplane geeky types
of things do you do? You go to air shows
and what else?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well, Yeah, for example, this weekend up here in Maine,
in Cape Elizabeth, Maine, there's the annual Spurwink Farm Pancake
Breakfast and fly in now this place, Spurwing farm normally
it's a cow pasture and where it's a horse pasture,
and on Saturday they will mow it down because it's
also becomes a grass runway. And probably one hundred airplanes
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will be flying in from eight o'clock in the morning
till eleven o'clock in the morning, little airplanes, you know,
general aviation aircraft Sessmas and pipers and things like that,
and they'll be landing and coming in and people will
be able to walk up to the planes they land.
It's like fifty feet from you. And also they serve
incredible one for blueberry pancakes or chocolate chip can pancakes
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or plane pancakes with Maine maple syrup. And it only
costs a few dollars and it supports the EAA. That's
the Experimental Aircraft Association Chapter one forty one in Limington.
And it's a wonderful event on this beautiful high bluff
overlooking the Atlantic Ocean. It's a gorgeous place to go
in the morning and then you can explore the rest
of meand in the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
These older collectible antique aircraft.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Some are some are very unusual, some are home builds.
Occasionally there'll be a gyrocopter or a helicopter come in.
One time, there was a plane from a gentleman. I
wish I could remember the name of the aircraft, but
it was. It was a two of a kind aircraft
that was built in the nineteen twenties. It was just
beautiful that came in. You never know what you're gonna see.
There was a beachcraft stagger Wings from the nineteen thirties
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that's housed out in Limington. Was any other a couple
of years ago. It's just a wonderful way to see
some aircraft and get close to them. One of the
things that people don't the opportunity to do so much
anymore that I could do when I was a kid,
and you might have been able to do too. You
could walk to the out to an airport and you
could walk right out on the field. There was no
problem with that. Not a big airport like Logan, but
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some of the smaller airports and you could get right
up close to the airplanes. That doesn't happen anymore because
of all the security. So this is an opportunity to
talk to pilots, learn about the aircraft, learn about what
it's like to fly. Some people have been flying for
forty fifty years, a lot of people that are retired
and that's all they do is they fly their aircraft
around and something.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Another airplane geek type of thing you do and some
of your pals do, is anytime you get on an airplane,
if you're going somewhere, you'll try to get the pilot
to take you into the cockpit.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Am I correct?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I always try to get up on the flight deck. Absolutely.
I love to see the flight deck. In fact, my
picture on the Journey as the Reward podcast is me
sitting in the command seat of a Boeing seven triple
seven on my way to San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
If any one of us wanted to do that's what's
the secret?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
What do you?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
How do you do it? I?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Typically I ask if it's a single if it's a
single aisle aircraft, you know, like an A three twenty
or a Boeing seven thirty seven. Usually you can, you know,
you can look right up. The door's usually open, and
I'll ask the flight attendant or I'll stick my head
in and ask if is this a good time? And
if it's not, then they'll tell me. And if it is,
sometimes you know they'll they'll visit with me occasionally, since
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you know, I can talk aviation with them, and I
know what the pilot's life is like. I'll bring them candy.
I'll bring them some chocolates or something like that. And
you know, to the pilots, and I always try to
give a gift to the flight attendants who work so
incredibly hard and are typically underappreciated. But I just walk
up and try to talk to them. I can talk
aviation with them and let them know what I'm doing.
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And oftentimes, you know, pilots don't get a chance to
visit with passengers, so a lot of times they like
it cool.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So after this first break, we're going to get into
perhaps some change is taking place for the people might
want to know about if they are flying and anything.
If you could do me a favor and think of
information that might be pertinent to someone who's going on
a trip soon, like maybe changes to tsa policy, maybe.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Changes in trends on who's going where.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Maybe it's a good time to go to certain places
because no one else is going there. You keep tabs
on all that, and if you could share that whether
it's that would be great.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
After this Okay, Micah.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
You got it all right.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Let's do this on BZ.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Now more with Micah the airplane Geek. We're going to
start talking about pertinent aviation information might be helpful to
if you're going on a trip. I do have something
that I noticed that if you haven't flown a while
or going on a trip, you will know.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
And it's a good thing. A lot of stuff that's
not good. This is good.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It's starting to do facial recognition when you start to
board the airplane. And you know how when you've got
a big plane, boarding takes forever. Now boarding section A,
section one whatever it now, it moves along. Oh, I
would say almost twice as quickly, which is a you
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don't have to stand there so long.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
It'd be you're more likely to leave the gate on time.
It's quite a thing. Have you noticed that, Micah.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I have heard a lot about that. And they don't
do it up here at the Portland Jetport because unfortunately,
or maybe fortunately, Portland has a law about facial recognition,
so it's not allowed to happen up here, but it
can it can speed things up. I actually grow concerned,
and I would opt out of it personally because of
privacy concerns. What's going to happen with that data and
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where's it going to go. That's a different topic. But yes,
it can certainly speed things up when it's in place
and people use it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
That's an interesting topic on its own.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I say, I know what you're saying, but I almost
feel like I'm so heavily surveiled and my information is
everywhere already that at least in this case, I gain
a little bit of benefit from it. Who knows how
it'll burn me in the long run. Also on the
other end, when you get to your destination and you're
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going to take your passport and go through customs or
passport control, I should say, same thing. It's a lot faster,
and that's very helpful if you have a tight connection.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Oh, it certainly is.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
By the way, here's there is a question when you're booking, Michael,
when you're booking flights, what is the shortest connection that
you will will get? Will do a fifty five minute
connection if you have because you could miss your flight,
if your if your initial flight is late at all
and you get hung up in a line, and some
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passbook control, you could miss your connecting flight if you
have a fifty five minute lay. On the other hand,
no one wants to sit around for four hours. What
is your sweet spot when it comes to connections time?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I like to leave myself an hour, but it also
depends on the airline. I've certainly left myself less than that.
If I'm flying an airline that only has one or
two flights a day, and I may be missed the
first flight, and this is the second one that I'm
going to get, then I want to leave more time
to know that I got it. Because it also depends
on if I'm going from one airline to another, that
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can also happen. And if you BUK and oftentimes when
you book something like that online and you're going from
one airline to another by going to an electronic travel agent,
like oh, I don't know any any of the electronic
travel agents and you're booking two different airlines. No airlines
responsible for you. If you miss the connection, You're responsible
for yourself. So I try to be very careful and
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aware of those things.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
What about how do you feel about booking tickets through
a third party? Is never never, exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Because if something goes wrong, you can't call the airline
and complain or find out what to do. They'll just
say if you bought it through Expedia, they'll go talk
to Expedia.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
We don't care, we don't.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Know, we know nothing right, and I should have you
Expedia and other places like that. That's what's known as
an electronic travel agent. When I use that term, and
I just I don't use them. I will use Google
Flights to book a flight, but when I go to
book the flight, oftentimes Google Flights will show you different
places you can book it, and I will only book
directly with the airline.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Okay, you know related tip.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I got burned once booking a hotel through an electronic
travel agent. Again, book directly with the hotel whenever you can.
We got to the hotel and it was a dump.
It was a bait and switch.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Horrible, horrible, unstayable, stinky dump.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It was in Paris and it was you know, we're tired,
been flying all day, walk a long way looking forward
to the hotel and it was nasty, so nasty. We
just left and got an airbnb. But when we called, no,
when we talked to the hotel and say, look, this
is not right, we can't stay here that we booked,
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not that room. We booked it out of the room
and that's not the room we saw. That's not the
room you showed us. They said, to talk to the
electronic travel agent. We can do nothing because you did
not book with us. So book with a hotel and
sometimes you get a deal too.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
And whenever I go to hotels, even great hotels, you know,
when I see an argument happening at the desk because
the room isn't there, or reservation was lost something like that,
nine times out of ten it's somebody that booked with
the electronic travel agent. The online travel agency has opposed
to booking directly with the hotel website. So again I
always book directly with the hotel website, and if I can,
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I'll try to book directly with the hotel by calling
them directly, as opposed to going to the hotel website itself.
For example, and I'm married or Hilton or holiday in,
rather than going to that website, I'll call the hotel directly.
Because all the hotels are individually owned, they don't belong
to marry it like a United Airlines flight belongs to
the United They believe I married at hotel. A Hilton hotel,
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A holiday in hotel belongs to an individual owner.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Okay, here's another travel tip.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
These are just popping into my head when I talk
to you, they do. Always make sure that you have
six months remaining. We'll have six months remaining on your
passport before your return. Most countries that if you space
out and you only have three months, no, is it
six months left.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yes, six months.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
If you have less than fewer than six months left,
they're not gonna let you go, and they don't care.
It's not gonna happen. And I remember going through JFK
one time to somewhere very far away, and there was
a gentleman that had come from Mexico and he was
going somewhere very far away, but he was pleading his
case as some people at a desk, please let me go,
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and they go, Nope, you can't go. You got to
go back to Mexico because you don't have six months
remaining on your passport and it has to be remaining
upon return. Like if it gets to be less than
six months while you're away and you come back and
it's less than six months, then you're gonna run into
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big bed trouble and.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Then when the airlines are responsible for that. That's why
the airlines always check or should be checking your passport
and your visas on the way in before you fly there,
because if you're they're not, you're not allowed in the country.
When you get to the country, the airline's responsible for
making sure you are brought back at their cost.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Eighty seven. I'll go.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I got one more passport related rule. Never put your
passport down. Never put it down. It is gold. It
is so value built to you and so hard to
get replaced. If you anytime you put anything down, there's
always a chance someone will take it, or more likely
you'll walk away. You're in the airport, he's have to
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pay attention to stuff. You're tired, you put that down,
you could walk away. And I cringed when I saw
some guy had all four of his family passports and
he's stuck him in the seat, back pocket or something.
The chances of losing it, losing your passports when you
do that are great. I myself keep on my person
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at all time. I don't even leave it in the room.
I won't even leave it in the safe because I
believe employees have access to those safes. I keep it
on me all the time, except in the shower.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
What we said absolutely true. You never leave it in
a hotel safe because those passports in some countries are
incredibly valuable. People can sell them for thousands of dollars
a US passport. But I always keep it on me.
And not only that I keep it, I don't keep
it in a pocket or even a zipper pocket. I
try to keep it in something that I wear under
my shirt or a belt or something like that, where
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it's hidden, and if I have to pull it out,
I do. But it's where I keep my emergency credit
card and my emergency cash and and those kinds of things. Also,
when you travel, photocopy your passport the important pages and
keep those photocopies, leave a copy at home with someone,
and keep the photocopy someplace separate from the passport, in
this brief suitcase or something, so if you lose it
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you can go to an embassy and get it replaced.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I actually made I had a custom passport case made
that has it goes on my belts and it's been
It's worked for me very well.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Well, that's because you're an incredibly talented leather work.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
No, I didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I had somebody else make it. But also yes, it's true.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Also regarding passports, this is one that that I think
we've talked about once on the phone at another time,
the mobile passport or control app that you can use
to start preparing to arrive coming back into the United States.
I think up to four hours before landing, and it
gets you through your customs a lot more quickly.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
All right, now here's an area, right, here's an area
where you're you know, really valuable. You really know apps,
and there are a number of them that are kind
of fun. What is an app? Say you want to
keep track of your loved one. You know that they're
going on a trip, and you know their flight number,
and you want to know where they are in the air,
just for fun, what's a good app to track a
plane like that?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
There are two that I use that way that are free.
One is called flight Radar twenty four and that's a
wonderful app because you can look up, you can pull
that up. It shows you the radar will show you
whatever's flying overhead or nearby. You can find any aircraft,
almost any aircraft in the world. And what's also nice
about it. It uses your phone camera, so if you
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see a plane flying overhead, you could open up that app,
point it at the aircraft and find out what aircraft
it is, what airline it is, what altitude is at,
where it's coming from, and where it's going.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Even if an airplane is really up high and can't
see the chail number, how can it recognize the plane.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
It uses GPS to know where you are, uses GPS
to see where the aircraft is, and it can recognize
where you are, where it is, or what aircraft it
is from the GPS and from the database that it
uses in terms of tracking things. So that's one that
I have that's a lot of fun. Another one that
the other one that I mentioned is flight flight Aware,
which you can look up flights and look up flight
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numbers and follow flights on But my favorite, which is
only available on iPhones. It's not available on Android, and
while you can use it for the first time for free,
it's a paid app. It's called Flighty. And with Flighty,
if you have a flight that's going to be late,
it will tell you typically before the air before the airline.
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It even knows it is quicker than that. It was
developed by a guy Ryan. I can't remember his name
right now, but it was developed by a guy who
was coming back from Florida with his grandmother and was
coming up from the Keys to get to Miami to
catch the flight. Found out the flight was like twelve
hours delay and you could have stayed down on the Keys.
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And it is a wonderful app. I can't rave about
it enough. And again it costs, but if you're flying regularly,
it saves a lot of time. And I've used it
a few times where I was tracking friends and they
were on their way down from Portland to Boston to
catch a flight, and I let them know, don't go
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to Boston. That flight's not going to go. The airline
didn't tell him. I knew about probably about an hour
before they were going to leave for Boston.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
That's cool. Now tell them about seat Guru.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Oh seek Guru. Seak Guru is not quite as good
as it was. It was taken over by another company,
but I still use it. It lets you gives you
information about an airline seat chart, so you can see
what's a good seat on a plane, what's not such
a good seat on a plane. And the reviews of
those seats, what it's going to offer, how much leg
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room you're going to have, how wide the seat is,
how close it is to the lab, lavatory or the galley.
And it doesn't use it does a pretty good rating.
There are other ones out there. I can't remember the
name of it right now, I'm sorry to say, but
there are some those are These aren't an app. Cecrews
not an app that I'd use, but it is available online.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Okay, let's take a Do I have time for Canon Topsfield.
I'm going to make time. Hi Kennon Topsfield. You're on
WWZ Hi Bhi.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
What a great guest you have on travel I wanted
to make I wanted to make a comment about connecting time.
So I fly Delta a lot, go through Minneapolis to
the Northwest. They've changed I don't know if it's all alignes.
Maybe it, guest knows. Fifteen minutes before the flight they
closed the gate and so you got a fifty minute flight.
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You inter connection, which is tight. But if you're on
the same airline, you can do it with the terminal
if your first class, especially because you're upfront. But fifty
minutes is in fifty minutes. Fifty minutes is only thirty
five minutes, and so they don't tell you there. So
if you see an hour, if you hunt delta, and
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I think it's becoming an industry thing because they want
to get off on time, so they're closing the gate
so everybody's there. You're on, you're on it, you're not.
It's like the six month thing, you lose, And I
think it's people have to be aware of that. So
and now it really is forty five minutes at least
with that airline, and it's a good airline. I speak
well of it of all airlines if they stay in
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the air. The other thing that I like what you
just mentioned, and I just would love to hear, is
when it's important where I sit on a plane. What
side I like the sun? If I'm going east to
west and north south? What time of day? These all
playing to pie. I'm a little bit weird like that. Wow,
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But if you like the sun, you want to sit
on the sunny side. It's always sunny at thirty five
thousand and and I'd like to seat plan that seek Guru, Sir,
is a good good thing to look at all, so
I could look at British airways and see a seven
sixty seven, let's say, or a seven seventy seven, and
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it would show the seating plan for different sections.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, you even put in your actual flight, the flight,
the date, the time, flight number, and it will tell
you the seat configuration for that actual flight. That's a
really cool call. Thank you very much, Canon Sotsville. I
do have to break a little question for you to
think about during the break when you're flying, should the
window be up or down? You should the person who's
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running the window keep the window up or down. Is
it inconsiderate to blast sun coming in to mangle your
buzz while you're trying to enjoy a movie or is
it there right to look out the window even if
it ruins your movie experience.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
After this on WBZ, it's Night.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Side with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio, where.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
With Micah Engber, who is a.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Has two podcasts and I want to make sure we
know how to get to them, Airplane Geeks podcast and
Journey is the Reward Podcast. Where can people find these podcasts?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, excuse me, Bradley, I didn't expect that. Airplanegeeks dot com.
It is right there online and you can subscribe to
it with any podcast player and the journey is reward
dot org is online or again you could subscribe to
it with any podcast player of choice. And before we
go on, could I make a comment about Ken's call?
He brought up an interesting point. There are a couple
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of things to bear in mind regarding what he said,
if that's all right.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Remind first, folks, that's what he said.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Ken talked about when he was going through Seattle on
Delta that with connection times, you need to be at
the gate fifteen minutes ahead of time. And that's true.
Gates closed fifteen minutes before departure, and if you're not
on board, you're probably not going to make your flight.
But one of the things to also bear in mind
is that if you make a book your flight on
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an airline's website and it gives you a short connection time,
that means it's a i llegal connection for the airline
and they're responsible for you. Now, you may have to
walk fast to get one from one gate to the other,
but it's a legal connection. If you're booking it yourself
and you're booking your flight separately, not on the airline website,
and you go with an illegal connection, then you could
be illegal. I don't mean the legalities I'm talking about
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by the airline regulations and rules. Then you may be
on your own. But the other thing that recently happened
is as of the end of May, United change their policy.
They used to have a check in cutoff time of
thirty minutes before the flight that you had to be
checked in, didn't let the airline know that you were
there thirty minutes before. They just extended that to for
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forty five minutes prior to departure. This is for domestic flights.
It's sixty minutes if you're flying internationally, so you need
to give you your check in, especially if you're checking
a bag. But even if you're not, make sure that
you're checking in with a gate agent forty five minutes
before domestic sixty minutes before international flights, and if you're
not checked in, it's possible you could lose your seat.
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They could reassign it.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Wow, Okay, I asked a question before the break, and
that is kind of what's what's the etiquette on the
window up or down?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
And you know, when it's in the day, it doesn't
matter at night. I vote for down.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
That's a great question. Bradley because this has been discussed
so many times with so many industry experts on so
many podcasts. But the general rule goes like this is
that there are three seats. There's the window, there's the middle,
and the aisle. The person at the window well has
the responsibility, has the decision making on the window shade.
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If you're sitting at the window, that's your call, it's
your window. If you're in the middle seat, that person
gets both armrests. Because you're in the most uncomfortable seat possible.
They're tight the arm rest of theirs. If you're sitting
you can't put your left arm up on the window.
You can't put your arm up from the window seat
and expect that arm rest in the middle seat to
be yours or from the aisle seat. And the person
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on the aisle, that person's responsibility is to get up
and let the other people out to use the let
prelavatory whenever they want. And those are the that's the
etiquette of flying, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So if you're sitting in the window seat and I'm
on the plane and it's daytime and I'm trying to
watch a movie, and you insist for no apparent reason
to keep the window open, especially since you're so high
all you see is cloud cover below.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Then I am.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Despising on you. I'm seething. Please know that I'm seething,
and there are dozens of people around you also seething.
And you may have the right to control it, but
know that, you know you have the responsibility. With the
rights come responsibility, and you gotta you gotta know that
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unless there's a reason to keep that thing open, don't
you have the light if you want to read good grief?
That's that's.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
There's also courtesy that comes into play there, Bradley, because
you have every right to say, you know, I'm trying
to watch this film, would you mind lowering it? Nine
times out of ten, the person's going to say, perfectly fine,
no problem, happy to do it. Didn't realize if it
was bothering you. If he doesn't and he doesn't have
a good reason, then that person's not being particularly courteous.
And that's an issue we have in society generally.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
All right, Micah and everyone, here's a situation.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
What if you pay extra for a you know, an
extra leg room seat. Somebody comes up to you and says, ooh,
I have I have, you know, some medical issue, I
need your seat. I need to trade Will you please
see trade seats with me? Or maybe you have an
island they have a middle and you know you paid
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extra to choose your seat.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
They didn't. They got a middle one and maybe this
I'm gonna have to use the restroom a lot. Can
we trade seats? What are you saying? Are you going
to say yes or no?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
And there was just a story about this just today.
Actually that took place on an American Airlines flight that
was sweltering, and there was a young mother with her
child and the child was in this person's seat and
just left. The person came up that had the seat
and said that's my seat. I'd like to have it please,
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And the mother didn't even mother didn't say a word
when he came by, didn't even pay any attention to him.
And the plane was it was on a hot tarmac.
It was hot, the air conditioning wasn't flowing, and people
are yelling at this guy saying, you need to just
take any other seat, just take any other seat. But
he paid for that seat and he wanted that seat,
and in the end he got that seat. It's your
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seat and it's up to you to decide if you
want to give it away, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I do not want to give it away, and.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
It's a big deal to me, right and I don't
and who knows if it's true, it could be a scam, but.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
You know, yep, there's no reason and you don't have
to give it away. And then it's up to the
that passenger who's asking you to move to contact a
flight attendant and ask the flight attendant if they can help.
If that flight attendant can help him or her, the
passenger find a seat that's going to accommodate his or
her needs. But I've been in that situation when I
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was a passenger. I was sitting in a seat. I
had a flight attendant come to me and say, we
have a family that would like to sit together. Would
you mind moving? And I said to the flight attendant,
I said, if you could, I'd be happy to move
if you could accommodate me with a seat that's given
me at least the same amount of room that I
have now because I have this premium economy seat. And
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that's fine, but as long as you know I'm I
was on the aisle at the time and as long
as it was a night flight. As long as I'm
on the aisle, I can get up and down. That's great,
she says, don't worry, I will take care of you.
And she ended up taking the family and put them
in my seat. She ended up giving me a row
to myself.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
That's great, that's very nice.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
What if you paid for the aisle, say it was
both premium and premium economy, you paid for the isle,
but uh, the only one available was a middle seat.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Would you change? No, No, good for you.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
We can't let the scam continue. Next topic is I
know that you know of a couple of sites where
you can get flight deals. What are some recommendations for
apps or websites for flight deals.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Well, it used to be one used to be called
Scott's Cheap Flights, and I don't know why Scott changed
the name, but now it's called Going and there are
some great deals there and you can become a member
to get even better deals. And if you pay the
high price for the I think it's the elite membership,
you can even get great deals in business class and
first class that are just wonderful. And got does a
great job and his Going website and it's highly recommended.
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And then for that right, there is a free version
of it, but you don't get the benefits unless you
pay for it. Unfortunately, the best benefits unless you pay
for it. But once you start using the free one,
and especially you know if your diseas a mostly Boston
radio station, if you're in the Boston area, you're going
to find some great deals out of Logan and some
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great deals out of Providence as well.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
All right, next, you send me the flight deal.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
All the time you see things destinations that you think
I would like, and you send it along.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
What is that.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
The flight deal gives You offer some great flights, some
great sat bargains to different places on usually major airlines.
And in order to use it the way that they want,
you need to be pretty familiar with booking flights using
the airlines website and going through a bunch of details
that you and I don't normally do. We usually look
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for the flight to the location during the dates on
Google flights, and that's the one that I like the best.
Google Flights is free. You can search based on price,
you can search based on locations, you can search based
on dates, and it will give you the best it
will show you what the lowest cost has been for
that flight and if it's a good deal or not.
And then not only that, but you can track that
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flight using Google Flights, so that if the price goes
up or goes down, if you don't want to buy
it right then they'll let you know what the price
is and how it changes. And I highly recommend Google Flights.
It's my favorite website to search for flights.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
If you search the same flight multiple times, will the
algorithm sense it and know that you really want it
and jack the.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Price up if you aren't clearing your cookies. Yes, it may,
there's no doubt about it, especially on the airline sites
if you're using Google Chrome or Safari rather as opposed
to Google Chrome or Firefox. Usually Safari users are using
an Apple computer, and usually Apple users have more money,
so the price sometimes goes up. And again, I clear
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my cookies on my web browser every time I go
into an airline website or even Google flights to make
sure I'm getting something clean.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
So you clear your cookies.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
That doesn't That doesn't mean you have to re sign
into all the apps you use, right, that's you're not
clearing your It does.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
What a pain? Well, what about it is?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
What about if you have used two browsers and you
only use you use one browser only to do those
airline searches, then it doesn't matter if you're clear, you
gave it.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yep, you gave the tip before. I could you keep
one browser? And you know, and again I probably wouldn't
use Safari, but Microsoft as which is actually used as
Chrome or Chrome or Firefox. Keep one of them just
for airline searches and clear the cookies each time.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
All right, we'll try to squeeze squeeze in some more tips,
and we want to find out what Micah feels about
TSA and upcoming changes as well as was it ever
that effective?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
That's coming up on w.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
We're with Micah Engber and he's the host of Airplane
Gigs podcast as well as The Journey is the Reward
podcast show the features travel tips, trip reports, et cetera.
All right, I've read that maybe the case that we
don't have to take our shoes off at the airport
to go through security anymore?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And I know I get the sense that you feel
it what we go through and at the airport regarding
TSA and going through the thing is theater security theater.
I don't know if I agree with you, but i'd
like to hear the case you make.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Well, let's start with this shoe issue. As of yesterday,
it became clear that you no longer need to remove
your shoes to go through TSA screening when you go
to an airport. It used to be that if you
had TSA pre check or Nexus or Sentry or Global
Entry that came with pre check, you didn't have to
do it. But now nobody has to remove their shoes
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when they go through TSA, go through TSA security screening
before you enter get onto your airplane. They said that
they now have scanning devices that can scan what they
thought might be in the shoes, and they put that
policy into effect, and it's just not necessary anymore. Now.
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You do have to have a real ID, and that's
reasonably recent since we last though. You cannot board an
airplane without a real ID, be it a driver's license
or just a state ID. You're not allowed with just
a regular driver's license that doesn't have real ID on
it anymore. You need to have a real ID driver's license,
(35:52):
which is basically federally verifying that you are who you
say you are. If you don't have that, you can
use your passport, you can use a a government ID
from the federal government, I believe, and if you're a
part of the Armed Services, you can use your Arm
Services ID. I believe a green card is also accepted.
But if you just have an old driver's license that
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doesn't have that little star on it showing who it's
real ID, you're going to be turned away.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah. That includes domestic flights as well.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Absolutely, that's any flight that's to get bored an airplane?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
All right, Hey, do you have any other tips and
tricks I have While you're thinking, I have one tip,
and I've talked about this before and you may not
agree with me, but if you, especially if you have
a connection.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Don't take a roller case.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I'm a complete believer in a backpack, a small backpack,
one that is light enough so that you can walk
around with it all day and not have it bother you.
I just cringe when I see roller cases that people uncomped.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
It's depending in that.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And another thing, when you get on an airplane, have
your act together. Have everything you need to be in
the seat on you.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Ready to go.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
So when you get to your seat, if you put
your backpack or your bag up in the overhead and
sit down and be quiet immediately. If you're a person
that's gonna be messing around getting more stuff out of
your bag, you are really clogging.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Up the works.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Completely agree. Now, some people, you got to say, some people,
especially when they get to be our age Bradley, a
backpack doesn't really work for them. It just doesn't work
with their back how they walk, and so you've got
to come up with something else. But I think those
roller cases just look silly, especially the four real ones
where they're rolling them right behind beside themselves, so they're
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taking up two spots on the sidewalk as opposed to
just dragging it behind you with two wheel ones. I
just don't I think they're they're they're very, very difficult,
and and a backpack is definitely the way to go
if you can do that. The other thing.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Something kind of burns me.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
In a related topics, I think people's carry on is
oversized and the airline says nothing. I'm a law abiding
flyer and I have a small, small backpack don't you
think the stuff other people take is too big?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Sometimes oftentimes it is. And and you know, that's the
other thing where there's not a lot of etiquette going
on in terms of people moving other people's bags out
of the overhead bin or moving them around, or or
taking up space or that that they shouldn't be taking up.
They put the bag in sideways as opposed to wheels
in first, so that it's taking it and and and
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lying flat as opposed to standing up on the side,
so that it's taking up more space than it should.
It's really kind of crazy how that happens. But the
other thing that I do when I fly, I fly
oftentimes and I look like kind of an idiot that way,
really the real geek. But I'll wear a safari vest
kind of thing with a lot of pockets so I
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can have my phone in my pocket. I could even
have my iPad in my pocket and my headphones and
my book and whatever else I might need right there.
So it's it's I'm sitting down and it's right next
to me. I don't have to worry about pulling it
out of my bag, And it's just an easy way
to travel.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
There's a million pockets for medication, for your for your earphones,
for any other electronics you have, and it is a great,
great idea and they're cheap doing.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
How much time do I have, Well, I'm out of time.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I'm going to say goodbye to my great guest Micah
from Airplane Geeks and the Journey is their award. You
are a great guest and I really appreciate you give
us some time time.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Thanks for having me Bradley, It's been great to be
with you.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yep, I'll talk to you soon. Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Now, my friends, I have one final final tip that's
really cool, and I'll be brief.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I only have a few seconds.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
If you really want a special experience, I got Apple
AirPod Pro twos. Apple AirPod Pro twos with really good
noise cancelation, and you can get a dongle that plugs
into the air the headphone jack on the seatback where
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you plug your headphones in to listening to movies. The
dongle will bluetooth transmit the sound from the movie to
your sound canceling headphones, so you have a beautiful flying
and movie watching experience.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
This has been a such a.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Meaningful and great time filling in these three days for
Dan Ray, and I just can't say enough about being
part of the community again. Thank you, thank you, thank
you all involved, and thank you to you out there
for all your kind words. It WBZ News Radio ten
thirty
It's night Side with Dan Ray and Denis Boston's Leech Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, welcome to the fourth hour of Nightside with Dan Ray.
Bradley Jay in for Dan, Micah and Ingber is a
longtime host on a podcast called Airplane Geeks Podcast. It's
a weekly audio program that Luke said, the world of
aviation and that includes military and general aviation, which is
(00:27):
what you ride on when you ride around on an
airplane and go on a trip, and a lot of
times they have a prominent industry guest. If you're into airplanes,
you need to be part of that Airplane Geeks podcast. Also,
Mike is co host of a podcast called The Journey
Is the Reward and this is really where we'll focus
and it's the show that features trip reports, travel tips
(00:50):
and tricks and.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Help you, you know, travel smart.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm always calling them up when I'm going on a
trip and tell on him how much I'm.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Thinking about paying Is that a good deal?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And he's got all kinds of tips on like choosing
your seat and on and on and on.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So we're going to talk about things.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Related to travel via aviation and welcome to Nightside, Micah Bradley.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
It's great to be with you on the air. Really
missed you on the air and these past three nights
have been wonderful.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Thank you. And this is a show where you can
really call in.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Also, I'm very much into travel and I do have
the the Bradley J Travel YouTube channel and if you
want to find that, the best thing to do is
go to BRADLEYJ dot org and as a link to
everything I do.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
So I'm going to give some tips tips as well.
I've got a couple of good tips. So what did
you say, Micah.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I was going to say, let me say, as you
know a travel guy, going to your YouTube channel, it's great.
I learned more from you than then sometimes I learned
from a lot of other places. You really describe a
city and you get the true feel of it. I
really I recommend people who just didn't travel looking at
your YouTube too.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Now, one of the podcasts you're involved with is Airplane Geeks,
and you are and you are truly an airplane geek
to the point where folks Micah and his pals they'll
just go on a trip just somewhere and not even
go to the place, they just want to ride on
the airplane. That Micah's friend Brian, He'll go to South
(02:30):
Africa just to ride the airplane there and back.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Right.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
That's how into airplanes you are. You want to get
on the airplane. You want to know that it's a
seven eighty seven and what configuration?
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You know all about it? Right?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I certainly try to And that's right. My co host
Brian on the Journey Is Reward podcast, he was working
to build his lifetime one case status with United and
we argue about points and travel rewards programs like that
all the time. But he wanted to get that status,
and so there were a couple of times he got
on the plane from San Francisco to Singapore, got into Singapore,
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waited until they turned the plane around, and came back
all in, you know, fourteen hour flights each way, just.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
For the miles, right, either just for the miles. He
likes riding on airplanes. So what other airplane geeky types
of things do you do? You go to air shows
and what else?
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Well, Yeah, for example, this weekend up here in Maine,
in Cape Elizabeth, Maine, there's the annual Spurwink Farm Pancake
Breakfast and fly in now this place, Spurwing farm normally
it's a cow pasture and where it's a horse pasture,
and on Saturday they will mow it down because it's
also becomes a grass runway. And probably one hundred airplanes
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will be flying in from eight o'clock in the morning
till eleven o'clock in the morning, little airplanes, you know,
general aviation aircraft Sessmas and pipers and things like that,
and they'll be landing and coming in and people will
be able to walk up to the planes they land.
It's like fifty feet from you. And also they serve
incredible one for blueberry pancakes or chocolate chip can pancakes
(04:03):
or plane pancakes with Maine maple syrup. And it only
costs a few dollars and it supports the EAA. That's
the Experimental Aircraft Association Chapter one forty one in Limington.
And it's a wonderful event on this beautiful high bluff
overlooking the Atlantic Ocean. It's a gorgeous place to go
in the morning and then you can explore the rest
of meand in the afternoon.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
These older collectible antique aircraft.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Some are some are very unusual, some are home builds.
Occasionally there'll be a gyrocopter or a helicopter come in.
One time, there was a plane from a gentleman. I
wish I could remember the name of the aircraft, but
it was. It was a two of a kind aircraft
that was built in the nineteen twenties. It was just
beautiful that came in. You never know what you're gonna see.
There was a beachcraft stagger Wings from the nineteen thirties
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that's housed out in Limington. Was any other a couple
of years ago. It's just a wonderful way to see
some aircraft and get close to them. One of the
things that people don't the opportunity to do so much
anymore that I could do when I was a kid,
and you might have been able to do too. You
could walk to the out to an airport and you
could walk right out on the field. There was no
problem with that. Not a big airport like Logan, but
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some of the smaller airports and you could get right
up close to the airplanes. That doesn't happen anymore because
of all the security. So this is an opportunity to
talk to pilots, learn about the aircraft, learn about what
it's like to fly. Some people have been flying for
forty fifty years, a lot of people that are retired
and that's all they do is they fly their aircraft
around and something.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Another airplane geek type of thing you do and some
of your pals do, is anytime you get on an airplane,
if you're going somewhere, you'll try to get the pilot
to take you into the cockpit.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Am I correct?
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I always try to get up on the flight deck. Absolutely.
I love to see the flight deck. In fact, my
picture on the Journey as the Reward podcast is me
sitting in the command seat of a Boeing seven triple
seven on my way to San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
If any one of us wanted to do that's what's
the secret?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
What do you?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
How do you do it? I?
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Typically I ask if it's a single if it's a
single aisle aircraft, you know, like an A three twenty
or a Boeing seven thirty seven. Usually you can, you know,
you can look right up. The door's usually open, and
I'll ask the flight attendant or I'll stick my head
in and ask if is this a good time? And
if it's not, then they'll tell me. And if it is,
sometimes you know they'll they'll visit with me occasionally, since
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you know, I can talk aviation with them, and I
know what the pilot's life is like. I'll bring them candy.
I'll bring them some chocolates or something like that. And
you know, to the pilots, and I always try to
give a gift to the flight attendants who work so
incredibly hard and are typically underappreciated. But I just walk
up and try to talk to them. I can talk
aviation with them and let them know what I'm doing.
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And oftentimes, you know, pilots don't get a chance to
visit with passengers, so a lot of times they like
it cool.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So after this first break, we're going to get into
perhaps some change is taking place for the people might
want to know about if they are flying and anything.
If you could do me a favor and think of
information that might be pertinent to someone who's going on
a trip soon, like maybe changes to tsa policy, maybe.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Changes in trends on who's going where.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Maybe it's a good time to go to certain places
because no one else is going there. You keep tabs
on all that, and if you could share that whether
it's that would be great.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
After this Okay, Micah.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
You got it all right.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Let's do this on BZ.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Now more with Micah the airplane Geek. We're going to
start talking about pertinent aviation information might be helpful to
if you're going on a trip. I do have something
that I noticed that if you haven't flown a while
or going on a trip, you will know.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
And it's a good thing. A lot of stuff that's
not good. This is good.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
It's starting to do facial recognition when you start to
board the airplane. And you know how when you've got
a big plane, boarding takes forever. Now boarding section A,
section one whatever it now, it moves along. Oh, I
would say almost twice as quickly, which is a you
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don't have to stand there so long.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
It'd be you're more likely to leave the gate on time.
It's quite a thing. Have you noticed that, Micah.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
I have heard a lot about that. And they don't
do it up here at the Portland Jetport because unfortunately,
or maybe fortunately, Portland has a law about facial recognition,
so it's not allowed to happen up here, but it
can it can speed things up. I actually grow concerned,
and I would opt out of it personally because of
privacy concerns. What's going to happen with that data and
(08:54):
where's it going to go. That's a different topic. But yes,
it can certainly speed things up when it's in place
and people use it.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
That's an interesting topic on its own.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I say, I know what you're saying, but I almost
feel like I'm so heavily surveiled and my information is
everywhere already that at least in this case, I gain
a little bit of benefit from it. Who knows how
it'll burn me in the long run. Also on the
other end, when you get to your destination and you're
(09:24):
going to take your passport and go through customs or
passport control, I should say, same thing. It's a lot faster,
and that's very helpful if you have a tight connection.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Oh, it certainly is.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
By the way, here's there is a question when you're booking, Michael,
when you're booking flights, what is the shortest connection that
you will will get? Will do a fifty five minute
connection if you have because you could miss your flight,
if your if your initial flight is late at all
and you get hung up in a line, and some
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passbook control, you could miss your connecting flight if you
have a fifty five minute lay. On the other hand,
no one wants to sit around for four hours. What
is your sweet spot when it comes to connections time?
Speaker 4 (10:16):
I like to leave myself an hour, but it also
depends on the airline. I've certainly left myself less than that.
If I'm flying an airline that only has one or
two flights a day, and I may be missed the
first flight, and this is the second one that I'm
going to get, then I want to leave more time
to know that I got it. Because it also depends
on if I'm going from one airline to another, that
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can also happen. And if you BUK and oftentimes when
you book something like that online and you're going from
one airline to another by going to an electronic travel agent,
like oh, I don't know any any of the electronic
travel agents and you're booking two different airlines. No airlines
responsible for you. If you miss the connection, You're responsible
for yourself. So I try to be very careful and
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aware of those things.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
What about how do you feel about booking tickets through
a third party? Is never never, exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Because if something goes wrong, you can't call the airline
and complain or find out what to do. They'll just
say if you bought it through Expedia, they'll go talk
to Expedia.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
We don't care, we don't.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Know, we know nothing right, and I should have you
Expedia and other places like that. That's what's known as
an electronic travel agent. When I use that term, and
I just I don't use them. I will use Google
Flights to book a flight, but when I go to
book the flight, oftentimes Google Flights will show you different
places you can book it, and I will only book
directly with the airline.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Okay, you know related tip.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I got burned once booking a hotel through an electronic
travel agent. Again, book directly with the hotel whenever you can.
We got to the hotel and it was a dump.
It was a bait and switch.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Horrible, horrible, unstayable, stinky dump.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
It was in Paris and it was you know, we're tired,
been flying all day, walk a long way looking forward
to the hotel and it was nasty, so nasty. We
just left and got an airbnb. But when we called, no,
when we talked to the hotel and say, look, this
is not right, we can't stay here that we booked,
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not that room. We booked it out of the room
and that's not the room we saw. That's not the
room you showed us. They said, to talk to the
electronic travel agent. We can do nothing because you did
not book with us. So book with a hotel and
sometimes you get a deal too.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
And whenever I go to hotels, even great hotels, you know,
when I see an argument happening at the desk because
the room isn't there, or reservation was lost something like that,
nine times out of ten it's somebody that booked with
the electronic travel agent. The online travel agency has opposed
to booking directly with the hotel website. So again I
always book directly with the hotel website, and if I can,
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I'll try to book directly with the hotel by calling
them directly, as opposed to going to the hotel website itself.
For example, and I'm married or Hilton or holiday in,
rather than going to that website, I'll call the hotel directly.
Because all the hotels are individually owned, they don't belong
to marry it like a United Airlines flight belongs to
the United They believe I married at hotel. A Hilton hotel,
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A holiday in hotel belongs to an individual owner.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Okay, here's another travel tip.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
These are just popping into my head when I talk
to you, they do. Always make sure that you have
six months remaining. We'll have six months remaining on your
passport before your return. Most countries that if you space
out and you only have three months, no, is it
six months left.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Yes, six months.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
If you have less than fewer than six months left,
they're not gonna let you go, and they don't care.
It's not gonna happen. And I remember going through JFK
one time to somewhere very far away, and there was
a gentleman that had come from Mexico and he was
going somewhere very far away, but he was pleading his
case as some people at a desk, please let me go,
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and they go, Nope, you can't go. You got to
go back to Mexico because you don't have six months
remaining on your passport and it has to be remaining
upon return. Like if it gets to be less than
six months while you're away and you come back and
it's less than six months, then you're gonna run into
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big bed trouble and.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Then when the airlines are responsible for that. That's why
the airlines always check or should be checking your passport
and your visas on the way in before you fly there,
because if you're they're not, you're not allowed in the country.
When you get to the country, the airline's responsible for
making sure you are brought back at their cost.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Eighty seven. I'll go.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
I got one more passport related rule. Never put your
passport down. Never put it down. It is gold. It
is so value built to you and so hard to
get replaced. If you anytime you put anything down, there's
always a chance someone will take it, or more likely
you'll walk away. You're in the airport, he's have to
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pay attention to stuff. You're tired, you put that down,
you could walk away. And I cringed when I saw
some guy had all four of his family passports and
he's stuck him in the seat, back pocket or something.
The chances of losing it, losing your passports when you
do that are great. I myself keep on my person
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at all time. I don't even leave it in the room.
I won't even leave it in the safe because I
believe employees have access to those safes. I keep it
on me all the time, except in the shower.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
What we said absolutely true. You never leave it in
a hotel safe because those passports in some countries are
incredibly valuable. People can sell them for thousands of dollars
a US passport. But I always keep it on me.
And not only that I keep it, I don't keep
it in a pocket or even a zipper pocket. I
try to keep it in something that I wear under
my shirt or a belt or something like that, where
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it's hidden, and if I have to pull it out,
I do. But it's where I keep my emergency credit
card and my emergency cash and and those kinds of things. Also,
when you travel, photocopy your passport the important pages and
keep those photocopies, leave a copy at home with someone,
and keep the photocopy someplace separate from the passport, in
this brief suitcase or something, so if you lose it
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you can go to an embassy and get it replaced.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I actually made I had a custom passport case made
that has it goes on my belts and it's been
It's worked for me very well.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Well, that's because you're an incredibly talented leather work.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
No, I didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
I had somebody else make it. But also yes, it's true.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Also regarding passports, this is one that that I think
we've talked about once on the phone at another time,
the mobile passport or control app that you can use
to start preparing to arrive coming back into the United States.
I think up to four hours before landing, and it
gets you through your customs a lot more quickly.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
All right, now here's an area, right, here's an area
where you're you know, really valuable. You really know apps,
and there are a number of them that are kind
of fun. What is an app? Say you want to
keep track of your loved one. You know that they're
going on a trip, and you know their flight number,
and you want to know where they are in the air,
just for fun, what's a good app to track a
plane like that?
Speaker 4 (17:33):
There are two that I use that way that are free.
One is called flight Radar twenty four and that's a
wonderful app because you can look up, you can pull
that up. It shows you the radar will show you
whatever's flying overhead or nearby. You can find any aircraft,
almost any aircraft in the world. And what's also nice
about it. It uses your phone camera, so if you
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see a plane flying overhead, you could open up that app,
point it at the aircraft and find out what aircraft
it is, what airline it is, what altitude is at,
where it's coming from, and where it's going.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Even if an airplane is really up high and can't
see the chail number, how can it recognize the plane.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
It uses GPS to know where you are, uses GPS
to see where the aircraft is, and it can recognize
where you are, where it is, or what aircraft it
is from the GPS and from the database that it
uses in terms of tracking things. So that's one that
I have that's a lot of fun. Another one that
the other one that I mentioned is flight flight Aware,
which you can look up flights and look up flight
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numbers and follow flights on But my favorite, which is
only available on iPhones. It's not available on Android, and
while you can use it for the first time for free,
it's a paid app. It's called Flighty. And with Flighty,
if you have a flight that's going to be late,
it will tell you typically before the air before the airline.
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It even knows it is quicker than that. It was
developed by a guy Ryan. I can't remember his name
right now, but it was developed by a guy who
was coming back from Florida with his grandmother and was
coming up from the Keys to get to Miami to
catch the flight. Found out the flight was like twelve
hours delay and you could have stayed down on the Keys.
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And it is a wonderful app. I can't rave about
it enough. And again it costs, but if you're flying regularly,
it saves a lot of time. And I've used it
a few times where I was tracking friends and they
were on their way down from Portland to Boston to
catch a flight, and I let them know, don't go
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to Boston. That flight's not going to go. The airline
didn't tell him. I knew about probably about an hour
before they were going to leave for Boston.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
That's cool. Now tell them about seat Guru.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
Oh seek Guru. Seak Guru is not quite as good
as it was. It was taken over by another company,
but I still use it. It lets you gives you
information about an airline seat chart, so you can see
what's a good seat on a plane, what's not such
a good seat on a plane. And the reviews of
those seats, what it's going to offer, how much leg
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room you're going to have, how wide the seat is,
how close it is to the lab, lavatory or the galley.
And it doesn't use it does a pretty good rating.
There are other ones out there. I can't remember the
name of it right now, I'm sorry to say, but
there are some those are These aren't an app. Cecrews
not an app that I'd use, but it is available online.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Okay, let's take a Do I have time for Canon Topsfield.
I'm going to make time. Hi Kennon Topsfield. You're on
WWZ Hi Bhi.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
What a great guest you have on travel I wanted
to make I wanted to make a comment about connecting time.
So I fly Delta a lot, go through Minneapolis to
the Northwest. They've changed I don't know if it's all alignes.
Maybe it, guest knows. Fifteen minutes before the flight they
closed the gate and so you got a fifty minute flight.
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You inter connection, which is tight. But if you're on
the same airline, you can do it with the terminal
if your first class, especially because you're upfront. But fifty
minutes is in fifty minutes. Fifty minutes is only thirty
five minutes, and so they don't tell you there. So
if you see an hour, if you hunt delta, and
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I think it's becoming an industry thing because they want
to get off on time, so they're closing the gate
so everybody's there. You're on, you're on it, you're not.
It's like the six month thing, you lose, And I
think it's people have to be aware of that. So
and now it really is forty five minutes at least
with that airline, and it's a good airline. I speak
well of it of all airlines if they stay in
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the air. The other thing that I like what you
just mentioned, and I just would love to hear, is
when it's important where I sit on a plane. What
side I like the sun? If I'm going east to
west and north south? What time of day? These all
playing to pie. I'm a little bit weird like that. Wow,
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But if you like the sun, you want to sit
on the sunny side. It's always sunny at thirty five
thousand and and I'd like to seat plan that seek Guru, Sir,
is a good good thing to look at all, so
I could look at British airways and see a seven
sixty seven, let's say, or a seven seventy seven, and
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it would show the seating plan for different sections.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Yeah, you even put in your actual flight, the flight,
the date, the time, flight number, and it will tell
you the seat configuration for that actual flight. That's a
really cool call. Thank you very much, Canon Sotsville. I
do have to break a little question for you to
think about during the break when you're flying, should the
window be up or down? You should the person who's
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running the window keep the window up or down. Is
it inconsiderate to blast sun coming in to mangle your
buzz while you're trying to enjoy a movie or is
it there right to look out the window even if
it ruins your movie experience.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
After this on WBZ, it's Night.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Side with Dan Ray on wb Boston's news radio, where.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
With Micah Engber, who is a.
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Has two podcasts and I want to make sure we
know how to get to them, Airplane Geeks podcast and
Journey is the Reward Podcast. Where can people find these podcasts?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Well, excuse me, Bradley, I didn't expect that. Airplanegeeks dot com.
It is right there online and you can subscribe to
it with any podcast player and the journey is reward
dot org is online or again you could subscribe to
it with any podcast player of choice. And before we
go on, could I make a comment about Ken's call?
He brought up an interesting point. There are a couple
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of things to bear in mind regarding what he said,
if that's all right.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Remind first, folks, that's what he said.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Ken talked about when he was going through Seattle on
Delta that with connection times, you need to be at
the gate fifteen minutes ahead of time. And that's true.
Gates closed fifteen minutes before departure, and if you're not
on board, you're probably not going to make your flight.
But one of the things to also bear in mind
is that if you make a book your flight on
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an airline's website and it gives you a short connection time,
that means it's a i llegal connection for the airline
and they're responsible for you. Now, you may have to
walk fast to get one from one gate to the other,
but it's a legal connection. If you're booking it yourself
and you're booking your flight separately, not on the airline website,
and you go with an illegal connection, then you could
be illegal. I don't mean the legalities I'm talking about
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by the airline regulations and rules. Then you may be
on your own. But the other thing that recently happened
is as of the end of May, United change their policy.
They used to have a check in cutoff time of
thirty minutes before the flight that you had to be
checked in, didn't let the airline know that you were
there thirty minutes before. They just extended that to for
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forty five minutes prior to departure. This is for domestic flights.
It's sixty minutes if you're flying internationally, so you need
to give you your check in, especially if you're checking
a bag. But even if you're not, make sure that
you're checking in with a gate agent forty five minutes
before domestic sixty minutes before international flights, and if you're
not checked in, it's possible you could lose your seat.
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They could reassign it.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Wow, Okay, I asked a question before the break, and
that is kind of what's what's the etiquette on the
window up or down?
Speaker 3 (25:38):
And you know, when it's in the day, it doesn't
matter at night. I vote for down.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
That's a great question. Bradley because this has been discussed
so many times with so many industry experts on so
many podcasts. But the general rule goes like this is
that there are three seats. There's the window, there's the middle,
and the aisle. The person at the window well has
the responsibility, has the decision making on the window shade.
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If you're sitting at the window, that's your call, it's
your window. If you're in the middle seat, that person
gets both armrests. Because you're in the most uncomfortable seat possible.
They're tight the arm rest of theirs. If you're sitting
you can't put your left arm up on the window.
You can't put your arm up from the window seat
and expect that arm rest in the middle seat to
be yours or from the aisle seat. And the person
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on the aisle, that person's responsibility is to get up
and let the other people out to use the let
prelavatory whenever they want. And those are the that's the
etiquette of flying, all right.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
So if you're sitting in the window seat and I'm
on the plane and it's daytime and I'm trying to
watch a movie, and you insist for no apparent reason
to keep the window open, especially since you're so high
all you see is cloud cover below.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Then I am.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Despising on you. I'm seething. Please know that I'm seething,
and there are dozens of people around you also seething.
And you may have the right to control it, but
know that, you know you have the responsibility. With the
rights come responsibility, and you gotta you gotta know that
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unless there's a reason to keep that thing open, don't
you have the light if you want to read good grief?
That's that's.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
There's also courtesy that comes into play there, Bradley, because
you have every right to say, you know, I'm trying
to watch this film, would you mind lowering it? Nine
times out of ten, the person's going to say, perfectly fine,
no problem, happy to do it. Didn't realize if it
was bothering you. If he doesn't and he doesn't have
a good reason, then that person's not being particularly courteous.
And that's an issue we have in society generally.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
All right, Micah and everyone, here's a situation.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
What if you pay extra for a you know, an
extra leg room seat. Somebody comes up to you and says, ooh,
I have I have, you know, some medical issue, I
need your seat. I need to trade Will you please
see trade seats with me? Or maybe you have an
island they have a middle and you know you paid
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extra to choose your seat.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
They didn't. They got a middle one and maybe this
I'm gonna have to use the restroom a lot. Can
we trade seats? What are you saying? Are you going
to say yes or no?
Speaker 4 (28:15):
And there was just a story about this just today.
Actually that took place on an American Airlines flight that
was sweltering, and there was a young mother with her
child and the child was in this person's seat and
just left. The person came up that had the seat
and said that's my seat. I'd like to have it please,
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And the mother didn't even mother didn't say a word
when he came by, didn't even pay any attention to him.
And the plane was it was on a hot tarmac.
It was hot, the air conditioning wasn't flowing, and people
are yelling at this guy saying, you need to just
take any other seat, just take any other seat. But
he paid for that seat and he wanted that seat,
and in the end he got that seat. It's your
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seat and it's up to you to decide if you
want to give it away, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (29:02):
I do not want to give it away, and.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
It's a big deal to me, right and I don't
and who knows if it's true, it could be a scam, but.
Speaker 4 (29:12):
You know, yep, there's no reason and you don't have
to give it away. And then it's up to the
that passenger who's asking you to move to contact a
flight attendant and ask the flight attendant if they can help.
If that flight attendant can help him or her, the
passenger find a seat that's going to accommodate his or
her needs. But I've been in that situation when I
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was a passenger. I was sitting in a seat. I
had a flight attendant come to me and say, we
have a family that would like to sit together. Would
you mind moving? And I said to the flight attendant,
I said, if you could, I'd be happy to move
if you could accommodate me with a seat that's given
me at least the same amount of room that I
have now because I have this premium economy seat. And
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that's fine, but as long as you know I'm I
was on the aisle at the time and as long
as it was a night flight. As long as I'm
on the aisle, I can get up and down. That's great,
she says, don't worry, I will take care of you.
And she ended up taking the family and put them
in my seat. She ended up giving me a row
to myself.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
That's great, that's very nice.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
What if you paid for the aisle, say it was
both premium and premium economy, you paid for the isle,
but uh, the only one available was a middle seat.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
Would you change? No, No, good for you.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
We can't let the scam continue. Next topic is I
know that you know of a couple of sites where
you can get flight deals. What are some recommendations for
apps or websites for flight deals.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
Well, it used to be one used to be called
Scott's Cheap Flights, and I don't know why Scott changed
the name, but now it's called Going and there are
some great deals there and you can become a member
to get even better deals. And if you pay the
high price for the I think it's the elite membership,
you can even get great deals in business class and
first class that are just wonderful. And got does a
great job and his Going website and it's highly recommended.
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And then for that right, there is a free version
of it, but you don't get the benefits unless you
pay for it. Unfortunately, the best benefits unless you pay
for it. But once you start using the free one,
and especially you know if your diseas a mostly Boston
radio station, if you're in the Boston area, you're going
to find some great deals out of Logan and some
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great deals out of Providence as well.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
All right, next, you send me the flight deal.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
All the time you see things destinations that you think
I would like, and you send it along.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
What is that.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
The flight deal gives You offer some great flights, some
great sat bargains to different places on usually major airlines.
And in order to use it the way that they want,
you need to be pretty familiar with booking flights using
the airlines website and going through a bunch of details
that you and I don't normally do. We usually look
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for the flight to the location during the dates on
Google flights, and that's the one that I like the best.
Google Flights is free. You can search based on price,
you can search based on locations, you can search based
on dates, and it will give you the best it
will show you what the lowest cost has been for
that flight and if it's a good deal or not.
And then not only that, but you can track that
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flight using Google Flights, so that if the price goes
up or goes down, if you don't want to buy
it right then they'll let you know what the price
is and how it changes. And I highly recommend Google Flights.
It's my favorite website to search for flights.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
If you search the same flight multiple times, will the
algorithm sense it and know that you really want it
and jack the.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Price up if you aren't clearing your cookies. Yes, it may,
there's no doubt about it, especially on the airline sites
if you're using Google Chrome or Safari rather as opposed
to Google Chrome or Firefox. Usually Safari users are using
an Apple computer, and usually Apple users have more money,
so the price sometimes goes up. And again, I clear
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my cookies on my web browser every time I go
into an airline website or even Google flights to make
sure I'm getting something clean.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
So you clear your cookies.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
That doesn't That doesn't mean you have to re sign
into all the apps you use, right, that's you're not
clearing your It does.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
What a pain? Well, what about it is?
Speaker 2 (33:21):
What about if you have used two browsers and you
only use you use one browser only to do those
airline searches, then it doesn't matter if you're clear, you
gave it.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
Yep, you gave the tip before. I could you keep
one browser? And you know, and again I probably wouldn't
use Safari, but Microsoft as which is actually used as
Chrome or Chrome or Firefox. Keep one of them just
for airline searches and clear the cookies each time.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
All right, we'll try to squeeze squeeze in some more tips,
and we want to find out what Micah feels about
TSA and upcoming changes as well as was it ever
that effective?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
That's coming up on w.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
We're with Micah Engber and he's the host of Airplane
Gigs podcast as well as The Journey is the Reward
podcast show the features travel tips, trip reports, et cetera.
All right, I've read that maybe the case that we
don't have to take our shoes off at the airport
to go through security anymore?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Is that true?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And I know I get the sense that you feel
it what we go through and at the airport regarding
TSA and going through the thing is theater security theater.
I don't know if I agree with you, but i'd
like to hear the case you make.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
Well, let's start with this shoe issue. As of yesterday,
it became clear that you no longer need to remove
your shoes to go through TSA screening when you go
to an airport. It used to be that if you
had TSA pre check or Nexus or Sentry or Global
Entry that came with pre check, you didn't have to
do it. But now nobody has to remove their shoes
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when they go through TSA, go through TSA security screening
before you enter get onto your airplane. They said that
they now have scanning devices that can scan what they
thought might be in the shoes, and they put that
policy into effect, and it's just not necessary anymore. Now.
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You do have to have a real ID, and that's
reasonably recent since we last though. You cannot board an
airplane without a real ID, be it a driver's license
or just a state ID. You're not allowed with just
a regular driver's license that doesn't have real ID on
it anymore. You need to have a real ID driver's license,
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which is basically federally verifying that you are who you
say you are. If you don't have that, you can
use your passport, you can use a a government ID
from the federal government, I believe, and if you're a
part of the Armed Services, you can use your Arm
Services ID. I believe a green card is also accepted.
But if you just have an old driver's license that
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doesn't have that little star on it showing who it's
real ID, you're going to be turned away.
Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah. That includes domestic flights as well.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Absolutely, that's any flight that's to get bored an airplane?
Speaker 2 (36:24):
All right, Hey, do you have any other tips and
tricks I have While you're thinking, I have one tip,
and I've talked about this before and you may not
agree with me, but if you, especially if you have
a connection.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Don't take a roller case.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
I'm a complete believer in a backpack, a small backpack,
one that is light enough so that you can walk
around with it all day and not have it bother you.
I just cringe when I see roller cases that people uncomped.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
It's depending in that.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
And another thing, when you get on an airplane, have
your act together. Have everything you need to be in
the seat on you.
Speaker 3 (37:12):
Ready to go.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
So when you get to your seat, if you put
your backpack or your bag up in the overhead and
sit down and be quiet immediately. If you're a person
that's gonna be messing around getting more stuff out of
your bag, you are really clogging.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Up the works.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Completely agree. Now, some people, you got to say, some people,
especially when they get to be our age Bradley, a
backpack doesn't really work for them. It just doesn't work
with their back how they walk, and so you've got
to come up with something else. But I think those
roller cases just look silly, especially the four real ones
where they're rolling them right behind beside themselves, so they're
(37:55):
taking up two spots on the sidewalk as opposed to
just dragging it behind you with two wheel ones. I
just don't I think they're they're they're very, very difficult,
and and a backpack is definitely the way to go
if you can do that. The other thing.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Something kind of burns me.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
In a related topics, I think people's carry on is
oversized and the airline says nothing. I'm a law abiding
flyer and I have a small, small backpack don't you
think the stuff other people take is too big?
Speaker 4 (38:27):
Sometimes oftentimes it is. And and you know, that's the
other thing where there's not a lot of etiquette going
on in terms of people moving other people's bags out
of the overhead bin or moving them around, or or
taking up space or that that they shouldn't be taking up.
They put the bag in sideways as opposed to wheels
in first, so that it's taking it and and and
(38:48):
lying flat as opposed to standing up on the side,
so that it's taking up more space than it should.
It's really kind of crazy how that happens. But the
other thing that I do when I fly, I fly
oftentimes and I look like kind of an idiot that way,
really the real geek. But I'll wear a safari vest
kind of thing with a lot of pockets so I
(39:08):
can have my phone in my pocket. I could even
have my iPad in my pocket and my headphones and
my book and whatever else I might need right there.
So it's it's I'm sitting down and it's right next
to me. I don't have to worry about pulling it
out of my bag, And it's just an easy way
to travel.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
There's a million pockets for medication, for your for your earphones,
for any other electronics you have, and it is a great,
great idea and they're cheap doing.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
How much time do I have, Well, I'm out of time.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I'm going to say goodbye to my great guest Micah
from Airplane Geeks and the Journey is their award. You
are a great guest and I really appreciate you give
us some time time.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (39:49):
Thanks for having me Bradley, It's been great to be
with you.
Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yep, I'll talk to you soon. Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Now, my friends, I have one final final tip that's
really cool, and I'll be brief.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
I only have a few seconds.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
If you really want a special experience, I got Apple
AirPod Pro twos. Apple AirPod Pro twos with really good
noise cancelation, and you can get a dongle that plugs
into the air the headphone jack on the seatback where
(40:26):
you plug your headphones in to listening to movies. The
dongle will bluetooth transmit the sound from the movie to
your sound canceling headphones, so you have a beautiful flying
and movie watching experience.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
This has been a such a.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Meaningful and great time filling in these three days for
Dan Ray, and I just can't say enough about being
part of the community again. Thank you, thank you, thank
you all involved, and thank you to you out there
for all your kind words. It WBZ News Radio ten
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