Jimmy Kimmel Suspended

Monday night, Jimmy Kimmel made some comments that had his parent company suspend his show indefinitley. Dan shared his thoughts and invited listeners to call in with their opinions on Kimmel's suspension. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w b Z,
Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I want to talk about a breaking news story that
has literally breaking underneath us. All of us know that
last week there was this horrific assassination of a conservative
political activist in Utah and Utah Valley University, Charlie Kirk.
There's been more controversy surrounding his assassination than I think

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he or his family deserved. And Monday night, so called
comedian Jimmy Kimmel decided to make some comments, and we're
going to play those comments so you can hear what
he said. There's also some comments made by an ABC
News reporter named Matt Gutman Will which we will incorporate

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as well. But for now, let's start off with Jimmy Kimmel.
His show has been in depth definitely suspended by ABC,
which is an incredible step for a network television program,
particularly a late night talk show, to make. So let's
this was Kimmel Monday Night. I think there's no question
that his comments are are They're not intended to be comical,

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they're intended to be highly political, and they're intended to,
in effect, I think, misrepresent and misreport. What is going on?
I want your judgments on this. This is Jimmy Kimmel
Monday night.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
We hit new lows over the weekend with the Magga
Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie
Kirk as anything other than one of them and everything
they can to score political points from it.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Well, those comments drew a lot of blowback, and what
has happened today is there was comments made by the
CC Commissioner on a podcast, a conservative podcast. Brenton Carr,

(02:08):
the FCC Commissioner, criticized Kimmel's comments earlier today. In addition,
the owner of many of the local stations around the country,
next Are that owned some of the ABC states and Is,
announced earlier today they were going to preempt episodes of
Jimmy Kimmel Live for the quote unquote foreseeable future, whatever

(02:30):
that means. This is out of a New York Times article.
Next Star said they strongly object to recent comments made
by mister Kimmel concerning the killing of Charlie Kirk and
will replaced the show with other programming in its ABC
affiliated markets as a result. Maybe of that, in some part,
ABC said later today that they were pulling the Jimmy

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Kimmel Live Show off the air indefinitely. Everybody knows Charlie
Kirk killed last week and at the Utah University. I
think the mistake that has been made here is that
ABC is a private company owned by Disney. Kimmel has
his right to say what he wants, but this is

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a contractual relationship between him and ABC. Now. I don't
know if ABC is going to force him to recant
the remarks, to apologize for the remarks, but he is,
in this situation an employee of ABC, and ABC needs
to protect their name, their reputation, not only in Los Angeles,

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where Kimmel's show I believe is presented from, but in
every state in the country across America. There's no state
action involved here, although obviously there was some comments by
an FCC commissioner, But the FCC commissioner is not the
person who made the decision. It was made by ABC,

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at least as far as we know right now. So
when we open up the phone lines, I would like
to hear from all of you what you thought of
his remarks. I think they were way off base. First
of all, Factually, they were wrong absolutely wrong. That can
be proven by just what was etched on the bullets
that were fired, and the bullet that was fired that

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took Kirk's life, you know, catch fascist. That was not
coming from a Maga or a Trump side of the aisle.
And for Kimble to try to turn it that way
was I think an abuse of what he does, which
supposedly is to do comedy and satire. That was not satire,
that was a misleading political comment. In my opinion, ABC

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has done the correct thing in at least suspending him
and letting him know that that is not not appropriate.
He's not a political commentator, although a lot of these
late night comics perceived themselves as political commentators as opposed
to being entertainers. We'll take a break, we'll come back
right after eleven o'clock news. You know the phone numbers
that jump on board. If you think that Kimmel has

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been wronged here, feel free to tell me that. We
can discuss that. And if you think that ABC did
the right thing, you can call me and tell me
that six one, seven, two, five, four to ten thirty
six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Well, we
are talking about a big story and a story that
I'm sure many of you are just becoming aware of,

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and that is that late night talk show host Jimmy
Kimmel has had his show suspended tonight indefinitely by ABC,
which is owned by Disney. This is a fallout directly
from the assassination of conservative political activist Charlie Kirk. We

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could go today in Utah on Monday night. Kimmel took
it upon himself. Now again, Kimmel is a comedian, and
part of his job as a comedian, obviously is to
have some fun with politics. I think it's always dangerous
when you try to have some fun with the assassination

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of an individual, thirty one year old guy who married
with a couple of kids. What Kimmel decided to do
was to, for some reason step in and become a
I don't know, a democratic political consultant and try to

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push back against the narrative that is I think pretty
obvious as to who killed Charlie Kirk. Now again, the
individual who has been arrested and charged according to the evidence,
I don't think he would have had any like for

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Donald Trump or Charlie Kirk or the Conservatives. As a
matter of fact, he etched on the bullets, one of
the bullets that was not fired but could have been fired. Hey,
fascist catch that was his view of Charlie Kirk, right
to that view. Didn't never write to pull the bullet.

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Jimmy Kimmel could also have a view of Charlie Kirk,
and I'm sure he probably didn't like a lot of
the things that Charlie Kirk stood for. But he took
it upon himself on Monday night to utter word these
words during his opening monologue, which has him in a

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lot of trouble. Just to set it up for you,
this has cut twenty five, Rob.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
We had some new lows over the weekend with the
Maga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered
Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and
everything they can to score political points from it.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
That's a pretty disgusting statement on two levels. On many levels. Actually,
he's he's playing with fire. He's playing with the the
murder of an individual who had every right to go
on to college campuses and speak and represent his point
of view. So this is a guy that believes in,

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you know, Kimmel, in having a point of view and
his point of view expressed. But what he did was
he misled his audience. I think he missed intentionally misled
his audience that somehow and again, people who simply are
getting their news from the Jimmy Kimmels of the world

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or the comedians of the world, who are not reading newspapers,
who are not listening to a variety of talk shows,
who are not watching some of CNN, some of Fox,
some event MSNBC. Uh and and coming to independent conclusions. Uh,
anybody who's a fan of Jimmy Kimmel. He's using his

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power there to basically convince people that this kid was
a MAGA support. He was anything but a MAGA supporter.
Let's be clear about that. Uh. What he believed in
and what he didn't believe in was laid out very
clearly yesterday by the district Attorney in Utah. So so

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there's there's no direct action involved here. The FCC hasn't
taken an action. The FCC Commission on the chair of
the the f FCT. FCC, the Federal Communications Commission, made
some comments today. Another syndicator of Kimmel's program, Next Star

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had canceled it before before ABC decided to cancel it.
So you're going to have people tonight who are going
to scream wildly that, oh, this is the Trump administration. No,
this is this is Kimmel going way too far, way
too far. There is no government involvement here. Obviously. Television stations,

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radio stations are governed by the FCC. That's the world
in which we live. Okay, there are certain things that
I would be very careful in saying on this program,
certain words, et cetera. Okay, but Kimmell, basically, again, if

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he was a commentator, if he was one of those
talking heads on Sunday Morning or on or on Fox
or CNN or MSNBC or on this program, uh, he
is every right to say whatever he wants, even as
crazy as it sounds that this kid, you know, essentially

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was was a Trump supporter. No, he was anything but
a Trump supporter. Now, ABC yesterday got into trouble when
one of their reporters on the ABC Night the News
was commenting upon the messages that were exchanged between Tyler
Robinson and his boyfriend who's currently transitioning. Okay, and this

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was Gutman, Matt Gutman yesterday. I know little about Matt
Gutman's politics have always considered that he was a pretty
straight down the middle reporter. I think he also went
off in a direction yesterday when the news story was
the news story, and made some editorial comments that he
apologized for today. This is cut number ten.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text
messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden,
how it was placed, what was on it. But also
it was very touching in a way that I think
many of us didn't expect, a very intimate portrait into
this relationship and chip between the suspect's roommate and the

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suspect himself, with him repeatingly calling his roommate, who is transitioning,
calling him my love and I want to protect.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
You, my love. So it was this duality of someone who.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
The attorney said, not only jeopardized the life of Charlie
Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front
of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of
this case. And on the other hand, he was, you know,
speaking so lovingly about his partner. So very interesting and
as Pierre said, riveting press conference.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
David again, I don't know why Gutman would take that.
I just beyond me, beyond me. So today, to his credit,
Gutman released a statement and I'm going to quote it.
I don't have his words. I have his written words,

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not his spoken words. Yesterday I tried to underscore the
jarring contrast between this cold blooded assassination of Charlie Kirk,
a man who dedicated his life to public dialogue, and
the personal, disturbing text read aloud by the Utah County
Attorney at the press conference. Matt Gutman wrote on X quote,
I deeply regret that my words did not make that clear,

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but let there be zero doubt here. I unequivocally condemned
this horrific crime and the pain had caused Charlie Kirk's family,
those who were forced to witness it at UVA University,
Valley of Utah, Utah excuse me, Utah Valley University, and
the millions of people he inspired. UH So, two ABC personalities,

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one a reporter at least was smart enough today to
recognize the mistake that he made yesterday. Uh And Jimmy Kimmel,
who I think just you know, went way overboard of
what his role is if he wanted to make jokes
about Donald Trump, which he's done for years. I have

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no problem with that I make jokes about Donald Trump,
but to try to uh step out of his role
as a late night stand up comedian and try to
implant in the mind of his followers and his supporters
and his loyal fans that somehow misdirect them that somehow

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this kid, as he referred to him was was a
MAGA supporter. I mean that that was misleading at best
and intentionally deceptive at worst. So six seven two five

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four thirty six seven nine three thirty, let's have at it.
Agree or disagree. I've staked my position. The easy position
to take would be, oh, it's a free speech issue.
It's not a free speech issue. He's speaking as an
employee of ABC and he's speaking to an audience that

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has a wide you know, he he could have. I
just I can't understand how a smart guy like Jimmy
Kimmel could be frankly, that stupid. That That's my bottom line.
I'll defend it. Let's talk about it coming back on Nightside.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's Night Side with Boston's News Radio.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Let's go to the phones. I'm going to start it
off with Patty in New Hampshire. Patty, appreciate you taking
the time to call your first this hour and nightside.
Hi Dan, Hi Patty, thanks for calling.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
Glad to be here.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
So your thoughts on on Jimmy Kimmel and or Matt Gutman.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
I am not a fan of Jimmy Kimmel at all.
He is quite the audience and Charlie Kirk I've been
following and an amazing debater, enlightened in so many ways
his Christian faith, a conservative. This tragedy is just awful

(16:21):
and his poor children, his wife. When does the heat stop?
That was a hate speech by Jimmy Kimmel, Well, fans.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Yeah, I think what it was was it was kind
of an abuse by him, and that he was trying
to I thought, intentionally mislead. It's one thing to comedically
poke fun at someone. I just think that he was
trying to mislead people down a path. And a lot
of the people who watch Jimmy Kimmel, they're not people
who follow politics. You obviously follow it pretty closely.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
Well, I don't. I don't find poking death at something
that just happened. That's not comedy.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I would agree with I totally agree with you on.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
That hate and it's just awful and when does it end?
He I don't find him funny at all, but it's
just it's just so so sad just because of his
conservative Christian faith and here he is tragically on debating

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in Utah. Do you know how many kids he's enlightened?
And just for him to be on TV and just
make the comments that he made, thinking that it's gonna
be funny. Who makes fun of that? You don't make
fun of that?

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Well? Yeah, you know, Patty, I'm in total agreement with
you on just about everything that you've said here. The
point is that Jimmy Kimmel and many of the so
called light night late night comics have made a living
off of their jokes about Donald Trump, many of which
were really funny, because you know, Donald Trump does things

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that that clearly can be criticized, there's no question about it.
But every president has done things. We know. Where Kimmel's
politics are, I don't think there's any question. It was
patently obviously where Colbert's politics are were still are okay?
Uh and uh, look, you know I think that this

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is something that that you that you should simply say, hey, look,
this never should have happened. I mean, when you think
about it, these guys are all public figures, and if
one public figure can be cut down by an assassin,
I mean, we've we we had political assassinations, and now

(18:57):
we have you have you you've had. Look I can
go through the Gabby Giffords, the Democratic congresswoman, go back
even further, Alan lowenstein Stein, the congressman from New York,
the politicians in Minnesota in late May. It doesn't seem

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to be any sort of I don't know if it
was a personal beef that guy had, but I don't
think he was going after them from what I've read,
for any sort of political animists. Now. I don't know
what may come out of trial, but clearly this kid
was going after Charlie Kirk because he does not agree

(19:43):
with Kirk on probably anything. And Kimmell just should have
been small enough to stay away from it and say, look,
I'm not going to make any sort of a joke
here about this. Now. The people who are in academia
going to rush to Kimball's defense. I know that I
watched some of them on uh, you know, Channel five tonight,

(20:07):
but but there's no state action here. This is ABC
suspending their own person. If if I do something that
is embarrassing or or or hurts w b z UH radio,
I'm under contract. I can I could lose my job,

(20:28):
just like you know, it's it's it's not the government saying.
Jimmy Kimble, now the the FCC commissioner. He made some
comments today that I don't think we're particularly smart to
make as well, because he's an FCC commissioner. But there
was no action that he took, and in my opinion

(20:49):
absent that Kimmell doesn't have a leg to stand on
from a free speech point of view.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Fight Fight Did you hear Jamie Lee Curtis, Yes, Oh
my gosh, why you say something like that. Well, he
didn't agree with anything, he said anything.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
And she made that point, and she made that point.
I remember, I remember the morning. I remember the Saturday
morning that Gabby Giffords was shot in Arizona. No, I
didn't know Gabby Giffrid's from a hole in the wall,
but I knew that she was a Democratic congresswoman. And
I didn't have much of a take on it, but
I had this this pit in my stomach which came

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back to me the other day with Charlie Kirk that
once again, this woman was out at just a little
campaign stop, at a supermarket or a little strip mall,
meeting with constituents, and this guy who happened to be nuts,
he had no political you know, a point of view.

(21:50):
He shot her, and she was, you know, really disfigured
by it. She's still in Congress. Well, she's no longer
in Congress. She left her seat in Congress. She's now
married to Senator Mark Kelly from But I had that
Piti Field in my stomach and I didn't know her,
I mean, you know, and I would hope that anybody
would say, this is not what this country's supposed to
be about, taking people and shooting them, right right.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
He was killed for all the wrong reasons. He was
killed for his faith, he was killed for what he
was discussing. He was killed for you know, possibly conservative,
being a conservative.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
And well clearly, you know, when when the bullet is thatched,
catch fascist, Catch. I could have been more and it
could have been more explicit, and the text messages that
somehow captured Matt Gutman's fancy, the tenderness between the two lovers,
you know, come on, I mean maybe maybe Lee Harvey
Oswald's you would send a Valentine Days descard to his

(22:49):
wife or something, but you know that's not what Lee
Harvey Oswald should have been remembered for. Okay, Patty, thank
you so much. I got to run. We got pack lines.
So you've started us off very well. Thank you for
your call. Appreciate it great, so thank you, so keep listening.
I don't know that you've called much before. I want
you to become a regular.

Speaker 5 (23:08):
No, I have not, I have not to be honest,
is this your first call? It actually is.

Speaker 6 (23:14):
Well, we give you thanks, Patty, really, Charlie Kirk really
he enlightened me in many many ways.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
All right, thank you, Daddy, Appreciate you so much. Appreciate you,
Thank you. Good night. All right, let me keep rolling here.
Let's go next to Mike and Beverly. Mike you're next
on nightsack right.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
Ahead, and Dana, good shirt. It's all time to do this.
But I'll tell you if homework is on for you
when you go hometank or even in the morning, go
back and watch the left wing channel tonight screamings all
free speech, and I don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I mean, like, I'm sorry, Mike, you're going so fast.
I didn't even comprehend what you said. I should go
home and do my homework and do what.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
Watch the networks on right now, left winging networks. They're
screaming free speech.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah. Well, I think they're wrong because there's no state
action involved here. Uh. And I think that they are
doubling down and making a mistake. And I think that
Kimmel has put them in a very difficult, uh set
of circumstances here because he basically was attempting to use
his platform to mislead his audience.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
He definitely was, definitely was, and that's all point. And
they're trying to say it's a free speech and the
whole SEC thing, which is totally untrue. And I just
can't for me, you know, you know, better than median,
Like you know, I treat this like a JFK shooting,
you know what I mean, Like I have me like
you know, I've just been messed up the sense of it,
you know what I mean, Like you know, I just

(24:44):
don't believe in it and all that sort of stuff,
and like I just can't believe it, and uh, you
know there's a visual Sunday for and stuff like that
and being pound of it and something like that. But
just you know, I just don't understand how these networks
can scream like that on that stem from what he said, Well, let.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Me just say this, it won't be the network. Well,
ABC is a network which took the action to suspend
their employee. Yeah, okay, so that network made a decision
about what their employee did, and they did I think

(25:23):
what they considered to be in the best interest of
their network and ultimately their stockholders. But Kimmel has had
a free run of free speech for years. Everybody knows
that all of his critical fire, his criticism always goes
in one direction, which I think is a mistake. I

(25:47):
think if you're a comedian, you want to be able
to find humor, find humor everywhere.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
And it's not the time for right now, Dan, that
situation and not the time for Oh.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Absolutely, And that compounds it. That compounds it. What I'm
saying is that if this was not the assassination, the
murder of someone, it's the murder of Charlie kirk Uh.
The fact that he leaves a widow, he leaves two children,
he leaves parents, he leaves family members, brothers, friends, supporters.
It is not the time to eat. And it wasn't

(26:22):
even funny what he said. That's the point. He was
trying to basically turn people's minds around, and that's an
abuse of what his authority is in my opinion. Mike,
I'm coming up on an ABC. I'm coming up on
a CBS report, which I have to take. But thank
you for your call. Thank you much appreciate it. Mike,

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Here's ABC. The only line opened six seven thirty. In
his CBS Robb reminds me special report.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
It's Night's Eide with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
By the way, Rob remind me that there's a comment
that Bernie Sanders made. And I again, I'm not a
Bernie Sanders guy, but I thought that his comment was
the most eloquent and if all the Democrats had been smart,
they would have stayed on the page of Bernie Sanders.
And this is the comment that Senator Sanders made.

Speaker 8 (27:17):
Freedom and democracy is not about political violence. It is
not about assassinating public officials. It is not about trying
to intimidate people who speak out.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
On an issue.

Speaker 8 (27:31):
Political violence, in fact, is political cowardice. It means that
you cannot convince people of the correctness of your ideas
and you have to impose them through force. Every American,
no matter what one's political point of view may be,
must condemn all forms of political violence and all forms

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of intimidation.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Eloquent. Just shows that Annie Sanders is lots more than
Jimmy Kimmel. Okay, I'm going to try to move people
a little bit more quickly. Our lines are full, and
I want to give everybody an opportunity. I'll try. I'll
try to listen as carefully as they can. Donna in
framing him. Hey, Donna, next do on nightside? Go right ahead?

(28:17):
Oh where did Donna go lost? Okay, Donna call back.
Will put you tow us the head of the line.
Let me go next to Pelvis and Middleton. Pelvis, I'll
listen to what you have to say. I'll try to
listen and give everybody an opportunity.

Speaker 9 (28:31):
Go ahead, I got you all right? No, So I mean,
I just I just learned this right now with Jimmy Kimmel.
But he's been a fraud for many years. If you
look back at what he started from The Man Show
and how he exploited women on trampoline's back in the
day and then flip flopped his agenda throughout the years
and got realigned his comments tonight or whatever he you know,

(28:53):
with Charlie is it's disgusting. The attack on Charlie Kirk
is an attack on freedom of speech for everybody. I
don't care what side you fall on.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
He really didn't attack He really didn't attack Kirk, he used.

Speaker 9 (29:11):
I said, I know I was saying. I was saying,
the assassination of him attacks all of us. I'm saying
as far as freedom of speech, free debate, and how
respectful most of his debates were, no matter what they
came up with. You know, there were people spitting in
this guy's face talking about biological men. Can you know

(29:32):
menstrate and bear children? And nobody liked, you know, nobody
liked the back and forth he was trying to dissect
the mental illness is going on in the country and
it's just absurd. I mean, there was teachers around around,
A bunch of teachers comments too.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
I said, I wasn't going to interrupt you, but please
don't characterize people of any category as being mentally ill. Here, okay,
what I'm trying to basically, do want to keep the
conversation at a level kah here number one and number two,
what Kimmell did here was he was trying to mislead

(30:13):
his audience and basically with his you know, irony, sarcasm
or whatever his presentation incorporated, he wanted them to come
away with the belief the uninformed voter, well maybe this
kid was really a mega person who shot Charlie Crook.
That was what he was in effect telling that his

(30:34):
public that that is what the Trump administration was trying
to do. That was that's not true. So that's no.

Speaker 9 (30:42):
And as an employer employee of a of obviously you
can't mislead. When you are employee of a major corporation
like that, you can't do it. But at a lower
level you got everybody being fired and let go and
pbdy mass down more. You know, I live in Middleton,
but over here in PbD there are teachers being like
go two or three of them. You're representing your job,

(31:03):
you're representing your company. Just like you said, you can't.
You can't go on and you know do something detrimental
to your career. You know, you have to, you have
to hear it out. But like I said, the silence
of him is it's a it's a direct shot at
freedom of speech for everybody. I don't care if you're Democratic, Republican,

(31:24):
whatever you are, that they tried to shut down real
debate and real real talk.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
There was one guy silence, but there was one guy
in the shooter was the one guy that silenced Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 9 (31:40):
I'll debate you on that too.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
It's not that's not him, not the shooter.

Speaker 9 (31:45):
No, that shooter, that's the puppet that didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Well, okay, because there were people who were critical. Looks,
there were people critical Charlie Kirk. Okay, just like there
are people of me. He could handle himself, he could
take it.

Speaker 9 (32:03):
He did and he let everybody speak respectfully. And that's
my that's my point. You know, being taken out in
front of it's disgusting. Anybody who's speaking against it, in
my opinion, is disgusting.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
There's going to be a vigil tomorrow in Boston middle
there's one on lower level here in Middleton as well. Yeah,
what I'm saying is, look at the guy down the
other night who tried to disrupt the vigil. Can you imagine.
I mean, that's it's that's disgusting if the group of people.

Speaker 9 (32:36):
Like I said, this guy didn't have to do it.
I mean he debated people like you know, I give
you credit with your show. You you go back and
forth with many different walks of life and many different
ideas and that whatever. You you give everybody a platform
to speak. So we don't have freedom of speech moving forward, Dan,
and someone wants to stifle that. It's going to continue,

(32:57):
and that's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Okay, all right, whatever, I thank you for calling tonight.
I want you to continue to follow my program.

Speaker 9 (33:03):
Thank you very much, good night, good night.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
If if Donna calls back, Donnie, you must have had
it on speakerphone because I was bringing up in the
year Ken and Walta and Ken. I got to push
everybody a little bit tonight. Go write ahead, sir.

Speaker 10 (33:17):
I'll go thank can. Yeah, I'm glad you brought up
Brendan Carr. He did war an ABC and Disney they
could face scrutiny. He said, we can do this the
easy way or the hard way. And so I you know,
you have to wonder a little bit if ABC would
have taken this action, if Carr hadn't said anything. It's

(33:38):
kind of too bad he did, because I think in
this case, Kimmel's comments were so outrageous that and he
never would apologize. I think Kimmel will never say.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Oh, he's pretty arrogant. And again, when you're in that
position and people are, you know, screwing rose petals in
front of you every day, that can kind of build
up people say arrogance. I don't have that such situation,
So arrogance is not is not one of my floor.
I got plenty of flaws, it's not one of them.

(34:11):
I enjoy what we do. You and I are not
on the same side, and some issues some issues we are.
But you and I have never had a crossword.

Speaker 10 (34:21):
We have not. You haven't given me enough time, damn.
And I know I don't have the time tonight. But no,
I really respect you and the program and how you
present yourself because it is so contrary to all the
problems that you're talking about tonight.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
And by and by the way, and I want to
say this to you as a friend and as someone
who have got to know a little bit. You're very respectful.
And I have as much problem with the looney Tunes
on the far right as the Looney Tunes on the
far left. I mean, they both of them will come
at me so hard, and it's like I want to

(34:57):
listen to them, and I want a conversation sometimes kind
of have a conversation. The other thing is I I
edit in my head. I'm doing a live show, okay,
in four hours at night. I edit in my head,
and I keep a lot of the comments in my head.
If I think that they're a little bit off base.

(35:17):
I really do. Uh, there are things that pass through.
I'm not going to say that. I'm not gonna I'm
not going to make a comment to that because I
just think it's below this. This tell this radio station, WBC.
It's a legacy radio station, and I want to keep
it at at a left, at a certain level. And

(35:38):
I know that there are some people who probably would
say that I'm a fool to do that, but I
really I respect the people who preceded me in this chair,
Paul Sullivan and David Brodnoy, going all the way back
to Jerry Williams. Some I agree with, you know, but
I'm saying I don't want someone to say, you know,
you know, Dan Ray disrespected the position the chair. The

(36:00):
same way when I criticized a president, I was critical
of Joe Biden, but but I didn't want to make
fun of Joe Biden. Okay. I felt actually, towards the end,
I felt more sorry for Joe Biden in the situation
that he found himself in I did. I took no
glee in watching that debate between Trump and Biden, because.

Speaker 9 (36:21):
Yeah, that's a sad day.

Speaker 11 (36:22):
Definitely, Like, as.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I used the phrase, you I wish Willie Mays had
retired with it San Francisco Giants and hadn't played that
last year and center field for the New York Mets,
you know. And I hope I'm smart enough to get
to a point where I say to myself, Okay, it's
time to shut it down. There's a lot of people
going to celebrate that, by the way, maybe on both
the far right and the far left.

Speaker 10 (36:44):
So you know, not that I made derail everything, I
hope I don't. The only thing. I was horrified by
this assassination on Charlie Kirk, but he does he I
would say he's got some Jimmy Kimmel in him. One
of the outrageous things he said yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Know, I have tried to I've tried to nail some
of those down. I I I think that he's a
young guy and he probably made some statements. I wish
I could, you know someone, if someone wants to send
me the actual quotes that uh that he that he
might have made that have been attributed to him. I
just every time I saw him, he sounded pretty smart,

(37:24):
and I would he dumped that lot too, almost like
a provocateur almost, if you know what I'm saying. You know,
he enjoyed, he enjoyed the combat. I guess he did.
You know he said, Jed, let me, let me let
your run here. I got four more. I got to
try to get everybody a little sank. Thanks buddy, we'll

(37:44):
talk soon. Okay, thank you much. We're going to take
a very quick break. I'm going to get four people
in for sure, and I might even be able to
get you. And if you want to give it a shot.
Six one, seven, two, five, four thirty, that's the only
line open. If you are named Susan, Harold, Tony, Gary,
I'm going to get you in. I promise. It's going
to be tough, but we'll make it happen. And we'll
we'll be back here tomorrow night. So, uh you know,

(38:08):
we'll be here at five nights this week. Okay, so
we got plenty of time left. We'll be back after this.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Back to the phones, we go, got pack lines. Let
me see if we get everybody in Susan. How are
you welcome back? How are you Susan?

Speaker 12 (38:28):
I'm good, Dan. First of all, so I don't know
why you're trying to pretend that the assassinations in Minnesota
were not targeted because they were Democrats. They absolutely were.
He had a hit list. He shot another Democratic lawmaker,

(38:52):
and he had a whole list of Democrats of state democrats.
So it absolutely I mean, does he have some mental
health issue, sure, but it was absolutely political.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Well, let me just say this, I'm not familiar. It
was not as anywhere close to being as overtly political.
My understanding is that this guy was appointed by Governor
Waltz in Minnesota to serve on some state board.

Speaker 12 (39:19):
So I think it was reappointed to a bipartisan board.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Okay, I'm not gonna I'm not going to argue this
one with you tonight but I'll get up, get back,
get back to speed on it. And if you want
to comment on Kimmel, I'd love to do that, but
I gotta I gotta move quickly.

Speaker 11 (39:36):
Okay, sure.

Speaker 12 (39:38):
I I don't know how you can look at what,
you know, the statements of the sec chair and not
think that he was totally leaning on ABC in a
way that he should not be. And Trump said, just
to you know, after the Colbert Hes thing, he said, yeah,
Kimmel is next. Yeah, so they've been targeting.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Well, first, first of all, I'm looking at what he said.
Do you do you think that Kimmel should have said
what he said this weekend?

Speaker 12 (40:08):
That Are you aware that there was a raging debate
over the weekend? Mind you, this is on Monday, Okay,
he takes the show on Monday. Are you aware that
there was a raging debate in social media about whether
this guy was a quote unquote something called a grouper,
which is somebody who's actually to the right of Charlie

(40:32):
Kirk Because there were a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
You know, Susan, please don't try to take me down
that road, because say that for tomorrow and night, for
next week, this guy has edged in the bullets. Catch
this catch fascist. You know he said he didn't like Kirk. Okay,
there's nothing about this guy that I would put it anywhere.

Speaker 9 (40:54):
But in the heart left that didn't like her.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
The hard left. Okay, I'm being unfair to you, which
I don't want to be, because I got four calls
behind you, and I want to give everybody a quick
shot tonight. Come back tomorrow night. I give you permission.
We'll have a longer conversation, okay, or next week fair enough? Well,
then thanks, talk to you later. Let me go next
to Harold and handover. Harold. AM going to ask you

(41:18):
to be as quick as you can. Please go right ahead.

Speaker 11 (41:21):
Okay, I'll be quick.

Speaker 8 (41:23):
Uh.

Speaker 11 (41:24):
Just I actually just have a couple of quick questions
that I hadn't have heard any answers to it. Maybe
you maybe you know the answer? Is it established that
Kim Will actually wrote that material, because you know, he's
l late, Like comedians have twenty writers right in the stuff?

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Doesn't it doesn't matter something that sensitive? Uh, it's irrelevant.
In my opinion, he's not a puppet up there. He
knows what he's saying, So that's that's Yeah.

Speaker 11 (41:56):
But I think we have road, it has some responsible whatever.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
What's the second what's the second question?

Speaker 11 (42:03):
In the same regard don't stay don't these way nine
people in or anything on TV, I have to pass
semester with a lawyer or somebody you know, guarding the
free speech or the abuse of free speech, and before
something gets on the air.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
I don't know that. I don't know that his monologues
are previewed by lawyers. I don't know that to be true.
I don't know that to be false. I'm giving you
an honest answer, fair enough.

Speaker 11 (42:35):
Yeah, I will do some researching you back to you
on that'd be great.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I would really appreciate that. But generally they only talk
about public figures and New York Times versus Sullivan gives people.
I mean, he can kick people's brains out as long
as they are public figures. Only if he says something
that he has reason to believe that it is untrue
is where you start to get into trouble. That's New
York Times versus Sullivan. But I don't have time to

(42:59):
do the law class with you right now. Thanks you
talk to me. I appreciate it. Thanks, all right, let's
keep rolling here. How much time rob two minutes. Okay, Tony,
you're gonna get forty five seconds. Jennifer is going to
get forty five two, Go right ahead, Tony.

Speaker 13 (43:13):
Thank you, just a quick observation. Sure, and this so
much that could be said about this. But you know,
in Kimmel's comments, he refers to the mega gang or
the mega crowd, and I think celebrity wealth platform goes
to all of these guys' heads, including politicians, because it's

(43:36):
not a crowd or a gang. It's half the country.
In that point, Tony's forgotten about all this. You know,
It's not just a little crowd in the corner of
some state. You know something the people in this country,
you know, Tony.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Comment of the night, best comment of the night. I
appreciate that if you called me before this iss your
first time.

Speaker 13 (43:57):
No, I've called. It's been a while, but I've called call.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Back more frequently, Tony. That was a great call. Thank
you very much. Let me go to Jennifer. Jennifer, I
give you about forty seconds. What can you do with it?

Speaker 14 (44:07):
Hi? Dan, Well, I'm sorry a short time, but I
hope you pick up the conversation again tomorrow. Sure, I am.
I am basically all right. So I'm more concerned about
the Department of Justice misleading the country by taking down
that report about political violence, which basically said that it
was grossly more Republican, more conservative, more maga And that

(44:32):
was removed just Monday. So I find that very misleading.
Why was that taken down? Trumputtain and it's left left
Left all magazine, Left left left. Is no talk about
right conservative mega political violence at all? Right now, not
from that you.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
I will give you an opportunity to expand upon that thesis.
Uh call me. We're going to be talking about this
the next couple.

Speaker 14 (44:54):
And it's two terms. Trans vaccine.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Gotta go, Jennifer. I'm flat out of line. Pick it
up tomorrow night. Thanks very much all, Thanks Rob Brooks,
Thanks Marita. All dogs, all cats, all pets go to heaven.
That's why Pal Charlie Rays, who passed fifteen years ago
in February, that's all your pets are already passed. They
loved you and you love them. You'll see them. You'll
see them again, I do believe it. Hope to see again.
To morn night. I have a great Thursday, everybody. I'm

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I will be there, be there, and be square.