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October 17, 2025 41 mins
For NightSide’s last hour of the week we like to keep it light and have fun. This week is a simple question: Are you an optimist, or a pessimist? 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
I'm going Boston's Beech Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
All right, thank you very much. Al, we have now
reached the twentieth hour of the week here on Nightside.
I think all of you know it's a tradition on Nightside.
We have our little traditions. Okay. One of the traditions
I want to mention, by the way, is coming up
on November tenth, we will do a nineteenth annual college
Admissions show. We call it the College Admissions Panel. We

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will have with us that night as we have had
for the first eighteen years. Bill Fitzimmons, the Dean of
Admissions at Harvard University, also will be joined by Boston
College Admissions Director Grant Gosling. Now, the title can be
a little bit different at different schools, but they are
the top guys in terms of admissions. If you have
any member of your family, a child, a grandchild, a

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great grandchild who's in the process or coming up in
the process of applying to college, you want to make
sure they listen on Monday night, November ten and beginning
at eight o'clock. And you also want to make sure
you want to make sure that the parents are listening
as well, because there's lots of information that helps parents

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understand the process, particularly for families with their first college
potential college student. If you've been through the process three
or four times, you can always learn something. However, this
is your first time. That's the first time at the rodeo.
It's pretty wild and there's lots of ways in which
you can improve the process and improve the chances of

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your child getting into the school that he or she
might want to get into. So that's a little bit
of a publicity coming up now. This is the twentieth hour,
and the twentieth hour on Night Side for time immemorial,
we basically kind of kick back. Everybody who called this
week has hall pass, so it doesn't matter if you've

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never called, or if you've called once this week, are
ready all the everybody can call. As simple as that,
we call it the Night Side twentieth hour Hall Past.
Here's the question that I would like to ask. I've
never asked this question before, and it's a question that
involves some circumspection, but not a lot. Don't sit there

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for an hour and be circumspecting, because we only have
about fifty minutes left and I want to hear from you.
The question is really simple, are you an optimist or
a pessimist? Now, obviously, in order to answer that question,
you have to define in your mind what an optimist

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is and what a pessimist is. Most people will look
at the metaphor of is the glass half full or
half empty? So optimists see the glass as half full,
pessimists see the glass as half empty. Maybe you can

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help us define it. But I'd like to hear from
all of you, and I would like to I don't
know how we will total this up, but I will
keep track, and I'd like to know if my audience
tends to be optimistic or pessimistic. I like to think
of myself as an optimist. However, I know there have

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been in situations where I allow pessimism to overwhelm me.
But the question is inherently how do you view yourself?
Do you view yourself as a person who is optimistic?
When you get up in the morning, you think, Okay,
this is another day, I'm going to make the most
of it and good things are going to happen. Or

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do you get up in the morning and say, oh,
I dread the day and maybe good things are maybe
bad things are going to happen. That'd be one way
to describe it. I don't want to influence you. I
just want to ask. It's a very simple question. An
optimist or a pessimist one seven, two, five four ten thirty,
six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. And by

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the way, if you would like to tell me a
story of why you think you are an optimist or
a pessimist, that's helpful too. It's as simple as that.
Before we get to phone calls and feel free to
start doubting right now. Six one seven, two, five four
to ten thirty or six one seven, nine three one
ten thirty. And I'd like to know what makes you.

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I think all of us are creatures of our own experience,
and I think that is something that I have learned
in life that I really believe that. And you can.
You could look at it from the point of view
of people who you know, discipline themselves. They have a
very disciplined lifestyle, lest other people have a less disciplined lifestyle.

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That's fine, okay, it doesn't matter what lifestyle you choose,
but your lifestyle reflects, I think your nature. What type
of jobs do you have, what type of what are
your interests. I think all of those questions define who
we are. So I'm asking you to just be a
little introspective. So this week we started well again. We

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had each night this week. I'm not going to go
over all of the eight o'clock guests we had this
week because we did have some really good ones and
we had some ones that, you know, we're probably not
the best, but that's okay. I want to talk about
the guests. We talked with Jeff Robbins on Monday night
about Israel and the release of the hostages, which was

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a great night. And we talked for a couple of
hours about reaction to the Middle East Deal, which we
hope holds, there's no doubt about that. We talked during
the Yeah, Jacob Wycoff from WBC TV weather Guy was here.
He was a really good eight to forty five guest
on Tuesday night. I'm a little biased because obviously I

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worked at WBC for many years. He was talking about
an infestation of worms, microscopic worms on beech trees. That night,
we talked about the federal shutdown for a couple of hours,
which is still going on. It's now in day seventeen
on Wednesday night, we talked about the increase in road

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accidents with Martin Fie and the mass division of Fisheries
and Wildlife. More dear, more moose on the road, So
will we drive carefully? Talked on Wednesday night about Seth
Moulton's decision to challenge ed Mark. He got two hours
out of that, which I thought was good. Last night
we talked to a doctor, Bruce Herman. He's talking about
young people who are getting facelifts at the age of

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the late twenties, insane. He's a plastic surgeon, doesn't believe
in it. Then we talked with Eric Slifkup of Global
Partners in John Cesto or the Boston Globe about that
Massachusetts turnpike deal which has never come through. And we
talked for last hour last night about the story that
political broke of some racist, sexist, and homo phobic comments

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made by young people members of the Republicans Young Republicans clubs.
Horrible story and they need to grow up as simple
as that. Tonight we talked with my friend and classmate
at Boston Lands School, John Powers. He wrote a great
piece of The Boston Globe today about the head of
the childs, the history of the head of the Child's race.

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We also talked with Logan Hall, another reporter from WZTV,
about a discovery of some rare baseball cards, I mean
rare baseball cards that someone paid seventy five dollars for
a trunk and the trunk the baseball cards were glued
to the inside of the hood of the trunk and

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they worth thousands and thousands of dollars. And then tonight
we talked about energy prices going up this winter and
what can be done to keep them down. And we
also talked about Donald Trump looking at Venezuela and what
might happen. A lot of military action down in the Caribbean.
Wouldn't be a bit surprised if there's something in the offing.
Now the issue tonight, are you an optimist or are

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you a pessimist? I would like to and everybody does have,
as I say, the Hall pass to call back. And
I've already seen the Daniel from Leicester who kind of
got a short call last hour because of the number
of calls at the end of the hour. Let's start
it off here. Let me go, I'm going to go
to Carol in Randolph, who was the first caller, and Carol,

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you're going to start us off strong. Carol, are you
an optimist or a pessimist?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Oh my god, Dan, I am such an optimist.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Good for you. I love you already.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
I mean, I start out every day and I'm just so.
I drive the Expressway every day. Unto the world. No,
it makes me a pessimist and I swear the whole
way in at everybody. But when I get to my
office and I park in my building, I come up

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and I'm happy and I'm like, oh my god. One
thing that is so important, though, is say hello to
your security people in your building. Yes, know their names, Yes,
acknowledge them, and just make them know that you recognize

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what they do and how important they are. And that
makes my day happy. And just recognize everybody that comes
in and greets you, the FedEx people, the UPS people,
They're all working people. And if you're happy and you
greet them happy instead of negative, it makes your days

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so much better.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
Carol.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I feel that people from what they do, and.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I feel by the way I happen to I happen
to think of myself as an optimist generally, although I
can have my pessimistic moments. However, however, I do the
same thing particularly I've always done with cleaning crews. You know,
I've worked primarily night hours in my career in both
in television and radio, and I've met a lot of

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people who clean at night. Uh and many of them
they almost seem that they wouldn't look at you as
and I always that made me uncomfortable, and I went
out of my way to try to talk to people
and find out their name and say hey, what do
you do, And you know, they give me their name
and I say, well, I work here too, I'm Dan.
Nice to meet you. And people I've made a lot

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of friends over the years.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Special people, the people that you're building, the maintenance people say,
make your life unbelievably happy if you have a good
relationship with them.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
And I loved your call. This is the perfect call
that started off. We're going to talk to some people
who are going to view view the world a little differently.
But I got to tell you are I feel like
I'm talking to myself when I talk to you. You're great.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
It's you treat everybody like you want to be treated,
and nobody has beneath you. Everybody's just trying to do
their job, and.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
And some of those jobs are more critical. When when
when you I don't care who you are, if you're
the boss of the company, uh, and you need to
use the restroom and the restroom isn't clean. Uh No.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
But these are the people that an't gonna save you.
I mean they held me in the garage when I
had a flat tire. Are the best people? Just treat
everybody with respect and just smile, compliment somebody in the elevator.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I found I found myself.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Your shoes or you have a nice dress on. I
found myself somebody's day.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I found myself one night at two am, leaving the
WBZ late when I was still doing shows from the station,
and I couldn't get out of the garage. The garage
door was unfunctional, dysfunctional. Anyway, I was able to call,
and I figured no one's going to answer, And there
was a woman who answered, and she came home and

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physically got me out of the garage. Let me tell you,
I was ready to go to sleep. Yes, Yes, that's
a good that's a good philosophy for life. Carol. I
love the call. Thank you so much for getting this call,
and you couldn't have started off with a stronger call.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Okay, oh thanks Dan, keep calling.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
It right back at you. Six one seven two thirty,
six one seven nine three one ten thirty is the
only line right now. Six one seven nine three ten thirty.
When we get back after the short break, my friend
Daniel from Leicester will be back. Daniel, thanks for call
it back. You have your haul past, you're gonna use
it right after this.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
You're on night side with Dan Ray.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
I'm telling you Beazy Boston's news radio.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
All right, as promised, here's Daniel and Lester. Daniel, thanks
for calling back. I'm guessing you're an optimist.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
Daniel, hello again. You know I no, no, please you.
You know, even even a man like you can be
right or can be wrong.

Speaker 6 (13:00):
You know.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
Yes. I used to despise people who sat on the
fence until I came to find out that actually there's
there's two kinds of people, uh more than two kinds
of people.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Some can be a.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
Serious, others can be mesochistic and so that whole idea,
But treat others like they will treat you. I found
out that there's some people who would want to who
are mesochists and they want to be treated nastily, and
so they will, they will hit me and hope I
can hit them mad. So so I sat on the

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fence to know who I'm dealing with, because anyone can
be right.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Okay. So so you you you can be an optimist
or a pessimist based upon the way you have been treated.

Speaker 7 (13:51):
Exactly.

Speaker 6 (13:51):
I know.

Speaker 7 (13:52):
I'm also from my observation in that moment because like you,
as you say, you cut me. You cut me short
when I was saying that, you know, people might when
when we throw bricks at people, and you know, and
and we have power, you know, before they get to
our show, so we can arrest them. It might be
that day. Maybe we're afraid of what if we arrest them,

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what they might reveal about us. Maybe they are competitives.
It proper.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I think we've strayed from the question of whether you're
an optimist or a pessimist here, Daniels. So I'm not
if you're not gonna characterize yourself, I'm gonna leave you
as to be determined.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
How about how about a final word?

Speaker 8 (14:33):
A final word? Is this?

Speaker 6 (14:34):
You know?

Speaker 7 (14:36):
Why are you leaving out the third the touch category
on the fence.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
Well, I'll put you on the fence, but it can
be uncomfortable. We're sitting on the fence, remember that. Okay,
thanks Daniel. All Right, Daniel is on the fence, so
be it. Okay, you'd like to anyone like to join
Daniel and the fence, feel free? Thank you, Daniel. Optimist
or a pessimist, that's what we're talking about. Gonna go
to Paul in Plymouth. Paul you next on nights out

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of you an optimist or a pessimist?

Speaker 6 (15:03):
I did, Yeah, I'm I'm an optimist.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
You know.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
I'll tell you what because when you you know, you.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Go through these uh crummy phases of life or whatever,
you know, and all of a sudden you see the
the light at the end of the tunnel. So you know,
you go to these different cycles and it always you
always end up on the on the right side. So
if you know, if you're you're above ground today, you're
you're have a good reason to be an optimist.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Yeah, no, I think that that's a good way to
look at it too. And you know, all of us
eventually are are going to have a day when we're
no longer above ground. You might as well enjoy the
days while while you're here. I again, I think that
there are a lot of people who are dealing with
very you know, serious sets of circumstances whatever. They can

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be medical circumstances or other circumstances, things that can get
you down. But somehow, some way you gotta fight around.
You gotta fight around those, I think in my opinion,
and that's your point of view.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, well, you don't remember that the Rudolph the Red
Nose Reindeer, the the thing we watch every year, Chris, I.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
Do remember that story, yes, yes, I yeah, I remember.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
There's always Tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Song. That's one of my favorite songs, by the way,
from from the musical Annie Tomorrow Tomorrow. Yeah, that's the
song from the musical as well, Tomorrow I Love You Tomorrow.
That's that's I'm not going to sing it, trust me.
I don't want to lose my entire audience. So that's
that's that's where as we go with that. All right, Paul,

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I got you down as an optimist. Thank you so much.
Call more often. I'd love to hear your voice more often.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
Okay, okay, yeah, thanks, Dan, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
You bet you let me go to Laurie in Idaho.
I'm guessing Laurie is an optimist.

Speaker 5 (17:05):
Well i am, but I'm no Pollyanna.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Let's put it that way.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Okay, that's fine, that's fine. A reason a reasonable optimist exactly.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
I'm always prepared for something to come down the line
that you don't really care for, but in general, it
doesn't you know, it doesn't hang my life up totally.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Okay, So how do you how do you deal as
an optimist with days where I'll call them metaphorically cloudy days.

Speaker 5 (17:30):
The sun will come out tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah, sure, that's right, that's any right.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
I mean, I don't I don't sit there and hide.
I mean, you just deal. You gotta deal with it.

Speaker 6 (17:37):
It's life.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
You just deal and you know you'd be grateful for
the good things or you or you let yourself wallow
for a little bit. But you know, it doesn't chant
the rest of the work, the day, the week, the life.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, no, I know. Yeah. I mean we all get
into a funk, but the question is can you get
out of that funk? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (17:57):
I mean, I'm a huge fan of having a good
sense of humor and after and sometimes that can go
a long way to help a lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Absolutely, absolutely, Again, this was a topic that I decided
to do at about ten fifty eight tonight. I thought
about it during the day. You know, my favorite is
doing brushes with celebrity, and then there's what grinds your gears.
And we had a good one last last week. I'm
trying to recall what it was suggested to me last

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week by Marita, and it was, where's the fathest place
in the world you've traveled? And it worked great, and
I'm hoping that works.

Speaker 6 (18:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
I'm hoping this one works great too, because I think
most of my listeners are going to be categorized as optimists,
and so far that's been that's been the pattering.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
I like it.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
I think it's good.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Well, we'll see what other people have to say. This
is sort of people kind of have to expose their
inner self a little bit here to get on the
radio and admit they are optimist or pessimists and whatever
whatever way they whatever they want to go, is fine
with me. Laurie to Lee, you got it right. Well,
we we we do have Daniel on the fence. I

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hope he doesn't fall off. Not very comfortable, Yeah, he
very comfortable. Thanks Laurie, talk to you soon.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Thank you, great night, good night.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Okay, So the question is are you an optimist or
a pessimist? All right, we're just having fun. This is
one of those folks where there's no wrong answer. There's
probably no right answer. It's whatever answer you feel. Again,
think about it is if you see a glass, is
it half full? Is it half empty? And if if
you're viewed as half full, you're probably an optimist. If

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you're viewed as half empty, you're probably a pessimist. I'm
too close to eleven thirty, so we're going to take
the eleven thirty news. I got Bernie, I got Ricardo.
Was next, Ricardo? You stay right there. Then I got Bernie,
I got David coming in. I got two lines open
at six one. This is intended to give you some

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thing to think about as we get to the weekend.
That's that's what this is all about. We're not here
to talk about, you know, taxes or or or war
in peace. We're trying to deal with an issue that
everyone can participate in the conversation. You're an optimist or
a pessimist, feel free to join this conversation. The only

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lines right now, there are two at six, one, seven, two,
five thirty. Fill them up. Coming back on Nightside.

Speaker 8 (20:29):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WZ Boston's
news radio.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Ask Rob, are you an optimist or a pessimist? Rob?
Rob is a pessimist? Admitting to that, right, Okay, fair enough. Well,
it go to Riccardo in Granton. Hi, Ricardo, how are
you good?

Speaker 6 (20:50):
How are you? Dan?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
I'm doing just great? Have you called me before?

Speaker 6 (20:54):
I just I just wanted to clear something up that
several times you referred to the boats I use in
Venezuela cigarette boats. They're not cigarette boats. Well, cigarette boat.
A cigarette boat is typically north of a million dollars.
Oh okay, there's no way they're doing that. They're really
high end luxury speedboats.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
Okay, so what do you think they're using? Just to
clarify because my understanding is that but the administration. I
don't want to go back to the last hour, but
I just want to get it clarified that the boats
that they had could outrun the coast Guard cutters and
the speedboats. Speedboats. Okay, that's great. What is the speed

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I'm just curious because I don't know. I'm not a boater. Okay.
The only water I like to see is like standing
on the shore and look at the ocean. What are
those speedboats? Do you think costs it? Are they one
hundred thousand? Two hundred thousand? Were if the cigarette if
the cigarette.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Boats are really depends on the engines that they use.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Okay, what's the rain, It's going to give me a ranger.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
Now it'd be like three and fifty horse powers.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Okay, and so one would that it was what are
we talking like one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand
or three hundred thousand to five hundred thousand. I'm just
trying to get a sense of it.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
Three hundred five and okay, so not quite cigarette okay,
a little bit, but they can move.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
I assume that they can move pretty quickly.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
Yeah, they would love to have cigarette boats. Yeah, I
would like to have a cigarette boat.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah. I you know, that's one thing I have known
desire because I know that everybody who I know who
has a boat loves the boat until they realize that
they have to fix the boat they get out of
the water. A lot of work, a lot of work.
So Riccano have you called before?

Speaker 6 (22:46):
Is this your first time this is I've called before.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
Okay, So are you an optimist or a pessimist?

Speaker 6 (22:54):
I'm an optimist.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Everybody so far except for my producer Rob, is an optimist.
Explain to me why you feel you're an optimists. Give
me an example.

Speaker 6 (23:05):
Well, I have a stroke and I think I'm going
to get better.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Good for you, Good for you. How long ago did
you suffer a stroke?

Speaker 6 (23:15):
If I could ask about at the beginning of the year.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Beginning of the year, okay, and have you recovered? I
hope it's somewhat.

Speaker 6 (23:23):
A little bit, a little bit.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
What did they tell you it would How long do
they think it might take? What are they saying to you?

Speaker 6 (23:30):
They don't know, they don't know.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Okay, Okay, how old are you, Ricardo?

Speaker 6 (23:33):
If I could ask, seventy three, that's young.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
That's young. You've got plenty of years left, Ricardo.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
I hope so.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
Well. I'll tell you. You know one thing about my audience.
I don't know if you're religious or not, but there's
a lot of people in my audience who are religious,
and you're going to be You're going to be thought
about in people's prayers this weekend, and I'm hoping by Monday,
maybe we'll see some results. Okay, I really mean that.
I thank you for listening, and I wish you I

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wish you're such good luck with with thanks.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
You really mean that, and maybe I'll get that tiger both.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, you know. I mean, I hope you recover from
the group from the stroke one hundred percent. And I
hope that the next time you go into a store
that sells a lottery tickets, you buy one of you
buy a ticket and you win one hundred million dollars
because you deserve it.

Speaker 6 (24:26):
Thank you, sir, I think I should.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
And uh now, I mean that seriously. I you're sounding
a terrific guy, and and you've got a lot of
people are who are going to be thinking about you
this weekend, whether they go to church. Thanks for Ricardo,
appreciate it soon.

Speaker 6 (24:43):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Keep me posted well, you keep me posted.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
All right, I'll call again some day.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Thanks so much.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Have a great now, Okay, okay, bye bye bye, h again.

Speaker 3 (24:54):
If Ricardo could be an optimist, I think all of
us can be optimist. Let me go next. Where we're
going to go here? Yeah, Bernie's in New Hampshire. Bernie,
I'm assuming you're an optimist, but you might you might
fool me. Go ahead, what are you, buddy?

Speaker 8 (25:08):
I am an optimist, Dan. How are you doing tonight?

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I'm doing just great. I thought you would be, but
you know, I didn't want to make assumptions. Tell me
why you believe you're an optimist.

Speaker 8 (25:18):
Well, you know what, I've been through a lot of
adversity in my life. I myself had a heart attack
four years ago. When I tell people that, they're like, oh,
that's horrible, And I said, no, that's the best thing
that ever happened to me. I quit smoking, I started
eating right. I lost sixty pounds and I feel well,
and you know, and that's it's how you look at
it and what you do with it after, you know.

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And I my son, he's going through someher intensive training
in the next week. And I talked to him today
and I says, hey, listen, Frank, you know what, if
you believe you can do it, you can't. If you
believe you can't do it, he won't, won't.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
He says, Just do the best you can do, no
matter what it is.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
Try as hot as you can. No matter what happens.
I'm always going to be proud of you. And that's
what I try to bring to the guys in work
and stuff because don't don't get me wrong. You know,
we all have life issues and stuff that bring you down.
And for me, like work is a great place to
hide because I I'll just go in and and I'm

(26:19):
a joke. My wife says I'm not funny, but I
have I got a petition from fifty guys in work
saying that I am.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yeah, by the way, it's funny. My wife says that
I'm not funny too. Isn't that funny?

Speaker 8 (26:31):
Women are weird. They're just weird.

Speaker 9 (26:33):
You know.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
It goes half my a and I'm kidding, I'm you.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
You know what.

Speaker 8 (26:39):
My wife is, my life, my wife. If it wasn't
for my wife, you know, he is the backbone of
our family, you know. And uh, I know what I
joke around and uh no, you know what, I just
try to bring bring that to work and my life
and my family. And you know, life isn't always easy,

(26:59):
but no, what you.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Do now, you do it. And I got to tell you,
no matter how your life is, there's some other people
who have it even tougher. Do you know what I
mean by that.

Speaker 8 (27:12):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, well you bounced back.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
That's great that you bounced back. And I'm honored to
know you, and I feel like I know your son.
I know what your son is going through. I'm not
going to ask you what sort of training he is
because he's probably top secret anyway, and you wouldn't tell me.
But let him know that he's got a lot of
fans up here in New England rooting for him.

Speaker 8 (27:35):
Okay, absolutely, thank you, Dan.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
You have a good night YouTube, Bernie, appreciate it. Have
a great weekend, don't you soon. Good night. Six one seven,
two five four ten thirty is full. Those lines are full.
Now if you want to call six one seven nine
three one ten thirty, let me go to my friend
David in San Francisco. David, I think that this call
is going to be our best call. Go right ahead.

(27:58):
Are you an optimist or pessimist?

Speaker 10 (28:02):
Well, you're an optimist and I actually am. You know,
my psychiatrist tells me that I've got a Davy complex
and I'm always picking on giants, and whenever I see
a giant, I really get eager to mess with him.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
So if you're not talking about the San Francisco giants,
are you.

Speaker 10 (28:22):
Oh no, no, well you remember who Thomas pain was, right, Yes,
I do. Yeah, yeah, two hundred and fiftieth Anniversary of America.
Thomas Paine was the guy that came up with all
the catchphrases that helped me win the war.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
Give me, give me liberty, give me liberty, give me death.

Speaker 10 (28:38):
Yeah, absolutely, the United States of America. I mean, the
guy was phenomenal for what he was able to pull together.

Speaker 3 (28:47):
So he was so he I assume was an optimist
in your mind.

Speaker 10 (28:52):
Oh yeah, And you know who as a church mouse.
You know, if you look at his history, he was
just a poor kid that was lucky enough to become
a surveyor. When he was a surveyor that he hung
around with an enormously wealthy people who had land to survey,
and he was basically trained at the dinner table by

(29:14):
those people. And it became Ben Franklin sponsored him to
come to America and the rest is history, so you know,
and in Boston history. I believe he ended up living
to the end of his life down in upper New Upstate,
New York, but or north of New York City. But yeah,

(29:38):
I'm an optimist. I the bigger the problem. The more
I get eager. I love puzzles, and you know when
you when you've got these uh, these con artists that
are trying to trick America into giving up our freedom.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
For that, David, I know, I know you walking us
down that road, but that's not for this hour. To
be really honest with you, I mean, you want to
call back next week and we can have an argument
on whatever that's but I'm not We try to put
politics aside this hour. We really do, and I hope
you'll people then to respect that. But I appreciate your calling,

(30:14):
and I appreciate that you're an optimist because I think
that's that's that's the better choice of the two, in
my opinion.

Speaker 10 (30:22):
Tell my psychiatrist, well, have them give me a call
and I might be able to help him.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
David, trust me. Thank you, Thanks, my friend. I have
a good one. Okay, p be well in San Francisco
and treat Mac Jones, the quarterback of the forty nine ers, nicely.
I don't think you got a fair shake here. Okay,
we're gonna take one more here before the break, and
all of a sudden, I got some lines here, So

(30:49):
come on, folks. Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
That's one just says filled up in six one seven,
nine thirty. Ken and Walthiam. Can I guarantee you're gonna
tell me you're an optimist? Well, you know, but don't
let me influence you.

Speaker 7 (31:07):
Don't.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Don't let melud you.

Speaker 9 (31:09):
Okay, when I when I introduced this, you're you're going
to know you didn't influence me. Which is, you know,
optimists think the glasses half ball, pessimists think that the
glass is half empty, and engineers think the glasses twice
the size that needs to be.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
I like that.

Speaker 8 (31:25):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Okay, you know, I think they always think outside the
they always think outside the box. You can't those engineers
there every trick.

Speaker 9 (31:35):
I have to say, I'm I'm sorry, afraid to admit.
I have to say we I think I think I'm
an optimist because I think I'm always going to have
the best golf around in my life until I hit
that first shot off the first teeth. Yeah yeah, yeah,
maybe I'm just kind of a fool, right, So but uh,

(31:55):
you know I'm gonna try. If I'm going into politics
too much, I'll stop, I promise, But no.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
Problem, I'll throw the flag, don't worry. Go ahead.

Speaker 9 (32:07):
When we were talking, you know, we were talking about
uh Seth Moulton and and you know you would talk
to I think the first call you took on that
was from Bill, a Republican who was maybe going to
vote for him in the primary, and you kind of
insinuated maybe he should vote for with it Pressley maybe

(32:27):
and he could really you know, kind of throw a
monkey wrench and the works, and.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Well, yeah, you know Democrats do that, the Republicans. Republicans
do with the Democrats. There's a little bit of that.
And I think he was also talking about the candidates
who if they're running against someone whose name is John Smith,
and uh, they'll they'll try to find someone else named
John Smith to get them on the ballot to confuse voters.
It's it's an old political trick.

Speaker 9 (32:56):
Was sure, absolutely, but he did not go Bill did
not go for app at all. And he just talked
about he didn't want to be responsible for really things
going a lie. And I think he was being a
little self deprecating because I totally was aligned with that.
And when I I mean, I just my optimism tank
just rose up a few knots when I heard that,

(33:17):
and I just I sort of feel like in the
you know Churchill supposed I guess my view of the
world really is, you know that old Churchill thing where
supposedly said you can always count on America to do
the right thing after exercising every other possible option. So this.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Lies, I know, It's just has some great lines.

Speaker 11 (33:39):
And the other great line that that I've heard recently
is I forget I know the context in which was said,
but it was like they never missed an opportunity, to
miss an opportunity.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
Right right?

Speaker 9 (33:52):
I think that was the the Arab states.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, yes, yes, yes, you got it. I didn't want
to characterize it. But uh, the other one that I
like in this business that I've developed, often mistaken, but
never in doubt.

Speaker 9 (34:06):
Yeah, oh boy, that's a good one.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
I've used. I've used that. That's a good one to use.
So you are going to acknowledge you're an optimist, but
probably not.

Speaker 9 (34:16):
Yes, I'm I'm I'm afraid I have.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
To nothing to be ashamed of here, nothing to be
ashamed off. Hey, key as always, thank you so much
for your loyalty to the show. And I know that
sometimes I probably drive you nuts. When we have our conversations.
But I always enjoy our chats.

Speaker 9 (34:32):
Okay, that's why I keep calling Dan, Thanks so much,
appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
You soon, good night. Okay, let me do this. We
have who's next? I got Courtney, John and Bill. You
guys stay there. You're guaranteed uh that you're gonna be
able to uh to tell the world what you are.
But if you if you'd like to try six, one, seven, two, five, four,

(34:58):
ten thirty there's one line there and six there's one
line there. We'll be right back in this order. Courtney,
John and Bill, and maybe you, if you have the
guts to call, give a call. Are you an optimist?
Are you a pessimist? Coming back on.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
Night Side Night Side with Dan Ray.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
I'm WBZ, Boston's news radio.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
All right, we're going to wrap the week here. Are
you an optimist or a pessimist? Has promised Courtney and Salem, Massachusetts.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Hey, Courtney, welcome, Hey, good evening.

Speaker 12 (35:32):
I really appreciate it. I'm a Force generation listener, so
we kind of go quite a way's back family wise listening.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
To Polus Generation WBZ listener. I love it.

Speaker 12 (35:45):
Oh yes, oh yes, I think optimism is the way
to go, and I will kind of state that it's
you know, it's the style of thinking and we can
take what we go through as the learning and growth
sort of route or let it define you. I think
letting things kind of give you that ability to have

(36:08):
resiliency and prevail through stuff that small bumps through the
day doesn't define the day. And I guess don't let
your head get it in the clouds and be too complacent.
But kind of like the surrendy prayer, except the things
I cannot change, cards to change the things I can
And wasn't another difference.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
Yeah, my mother used to say to me as a kid,
don't don't let yourself to get sky up or low down?
Was her friend get sky up a low down? So
I think that's kind of what you're saying, Courtney.

Speaker 12 (36:39):
Yeah, hunt the good stuff. There's little parts of the
day that really do shine through despite the bumps and
obstacles that we, you know, go through.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Excellent, Well, Courtney, Thank you so much for calling. Continue
to call. Thank you Have you called before? Is this
your first time?

Speaker 12 (36:54):
I have not, this is my first time.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Well, we got to give you a rot as a listener.
You are now a veteran call or so I'm looking
forward to your second call. Okay, thanks so much, Thank.

Speaker 12 (37:08):
You all, Alana, thank you Daddy for listening.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Okay, Daddy was listening. Okay, thanks very much. Next up
is John in New York. John, you are next up.
Go right ahead, John.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yes, Hello, Dan, good evening. I'm off of ste and
one of the things I'm optimistic about is that I
have a mission to contact a certain executive or radio
corporation about an outstanding program that exists on his Boston
WBC station, and I need to make him aware that

(37:46):
in the Schenectuty, New York area, which is right by
the capital city alone believe the state capital that there
are a lot of people who work for the state
that love to hear this program, and a lot of
local spot the money for sponsoring program.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Well, you are a very kind man, John, and I
join you in your optimism and we'll see how that
all works out. You never know, you never know, what
do they say. Every once in a while, lightning does strike. Hey,
you have a great weekend. Okay. So I.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Even at work, you know, and it's a lot of
work sometimes, but it can be done.

Speaker 3 (38:32):
Well. You never know. You never know you have to
ask to find out, that's for sure, John, I appreciate
it so much. I got one more I got to
get to here before before the week is over. But
thank you, my friend. I value our friendship. Thank you
so much. Okay, you two have a great one. Good night.
Let me go to Bill in Pennsylvania. Bill, you're gonna

(38:52):
wrap the week for us, Go right ahead. I'm assuming
you're an optimist.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
Oh, you're right, man, I'm an optimist. And it's as
long as I can pep a thankful heart. And uh,
you know, I know that if I if I keep
an attitude of gratitude about uh, about myself, and I
don't take myself too serious, but I take other stuff serious,
it seems to uh. I mean, everybody gets everybody gets
discouraged every now and then. But prayer of prayer usually

(39:18):
get me out of those, uh, those kind of blues.
And when when real tragedy hits, of course, I got
to go to got to go to uh the God
and uh and and ask for help because uh a
lot of times, uh, you know, I need help.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
We all need help at some point. Trust me on that.
There's no question. There's no question about that.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
Now, what are you gonna do this weekend, Dan, I'm
going to relax.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
I get my grandson coming down with my son and uh,
well we'll spend some time together, a great dinner schedule
tomorrow night with a couple of friends, and uh gonna
watch some football on Sunday. Yeah, it's going to be
a nice relaxing weekend. I got to sort of begin
to button things up down here and and get I
need to head back to my real world, back back

(40:05):
a little closer to Boston. Bill, I appreciate it.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
By the way, for those who are keeping score, we
live in the greatest country in the world. Is we
can do stuff like that on the weekends.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
No doubt, no doubt, Bill, I appreciate it. And by
the way, the store twelve optimists, one on the fence
only Daniel from Leicester, no pessimists. Listening to the night's side,
I'm very gratified by the results. Bill will talk to
you next week. Thank you very much, Rob Brooks, thank
you very much, Marita, thank you very much. Long week.
We've dealt with some tough issues this week, and we

(40:33):
will be back next week. Remind you that November tenth,
the annual College Admissions Panel with the Deans of Admission
from Harvard and Boston College. Great for young people, great
for parents, and great for grandparents. And that's be eight
o'clock on Monday, November tenth. My name is Dan Rayland.
There's always all dogs, all cats, all pets. All dogs,
all cats and all pets all go to Heaven. That's

(40:55):
my pal Charlie ray Is, who passed fifteen years ago
in February. That's all your pets are who past. They
loved you and you love them. I do believe you'll
see them again, hopese again on Nightside. Tell a couple
of friends over the weekend about Nightside. I will be
on Facebook in just a couple of moments Nightside with
Dan reay Feel free to join us. There have a
great weekend everyone. Thank you.

Speaker 6 (41:14):
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