October 28, 2025 • 38 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about! For one of our segments this evening, we talked about the unique story behind All Saints Way in Boston’s North End!
Stephanie Brinley steps into new role as Zoo New England's President & CEO, now overseeing both Franklin Park Zoo in Boston and Stone Zoo in Stoneham.
Guest: Stephanie Brinley – President & CEO of Zoo New England
"AIxiety" in Massachusetts: State Ranks 3rd in U.S. for AI Job Security Fears, according to new study.
Guest: Dr. Jasmine Escalera - PhD -career expert with Zety(a pro career site)
The story of All Saints Way in the North End. Part of the cleanup/renovation efforts includes an upcoming service & dedication Saturday Nov. 1st at 4pm lead by Father Michael of St. Leonards.
Guest: Gary Rizzuto – painter by trade, who took on the task of cleaning up and overseeing All Saints Way in the North End
Celtics fail to rebound from early-season struggles and lose again, to the Jalen Duren-powered Pistons.
Guest: Gary Washburn – Boston Globe Celtics reporter
Stephanie Brinley steps into new role as Zoo New England's President & CEO, now overseeing both Franklin Park Zoo in Boston and Stone Zoo in Stoneham.
Guest: Stephanie Brinley – President & CEO of Zoo New England
"AIxiety" in Massachusetts: State Ranks 3rd in U.S. for AI Job Security Fears, according to new study.
Guest: Dr. Jasmine Escalera - PhD -career expert with Zety(a pro career site)
The story of All Saints Way in the North End. Part of the cleanup/renovation efforts includes an upcoming service & dedication Saturday Nov. 1st at 4pm lead by Father Michael of St. Leonards.
Guest: Gary Rizzuto – painter by trade, who took on the task of cleaning up and overseeing All Saints Way in the North End
Celtics fail to rebound from early-season struggles and lose again, to the Jalen Duren-powered Pistons.
Guest: Gary Washburn – Boston Globe Celtics reporter
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice eye, Dan Ray. I'm going you easy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Before Welcome on in everyone. It is that Tuesday night.
As we head through the night, I guess the weather's
going to get a little rough around here the next
couple of days. Nothing like what our friends and family
members are undergoing in Jamaica. And I don't know how
many friends or family members we have for Cuba, but
(00:27):
it's going to sweep up past this big storm, Melissa.
So no matter what happens to us Wednesday and Thursday,
it'll be nothing and compared to what the poor people
in Jamaica have been suffering through in the last few hours,
and our thoughts some prayers should be with them. My
name is Dan Ray and the host of Nightside, heard
every Monday through Friday night right here on WBZ, Boston's
news Radio. With me tonight again, Rob Brooks continues his
(00:51):
well deserve vacation and Shane Stokes that did a great
job for us last night, is all set to deal
with Nightside program number two this week on Tuesday night.
Welcome back, Shane and Shane will take your phone calls
after nine o'clock. In the first hour, we talked with
the four interesting guests, and we do have four interesting
guests tonight. They they're always kind of a polperrie that
(01:17):
Marita puts together. So let's give you a quick rundown.
I'm going to talk with Stephanie Brindley, she's the president
and CEO, the new president and CEO of zun New England.
I'm going to talk with a career expert about anxiety
levels here in Massachusetts. I guess they're AI anxiety anxiety,
(01:39):
so I guess people in Massachusetts are concerned about what
impact artificial intelligence might have. And then we're going to
talk about All Saints way in the North End, fascinating story.
And finally, last but not least, Gary Washburn, Great Boston
Globe Celtics reporter. I'm going to talk about the Celtics
starting off the season a little slowly, but it's a
(02:00):
it's a new roster, that's for sure. So we'll talk
a little sports, talk a little geography, talk a little
bit about about artificial intelligence and the anxiety that it
might bring on. But first Stephanie Brinley, the President and
CEO of Zoo New England, the new President and CEO
of Zoo New England, Stephanie, you have some big shoes
(02:22):
to fill in that position. Your predecessor had been there
a long time.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh yeah, no, absolutely, John is an absolute institution there.
And I won't say that I'm filling his shoes. I'm
coming in after him.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No, I understand. Now you come with a with a
great resume. And let's talk. When we say, uh, Zoo
New England, we're talking about more than the Franklin Park Zoo.
So so what will be your area of uh? You
your your kingdom if you will or you're you, you
(02:57):
deal not only with with Franklin Park but also with
us Stone Zoo.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Right, yeah, no, absolutely, yeah. Zoo New England oversees two
amazing facilities, the Franklin Park Zoo and the Stone Zoo
up in Stoneham. And that's really exciting for me to
be able to see these two facilities that are in
very different areas with different collections. But how do we
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make a coherent story from the collections that they have
that there's a complementary collections and so that's just really
exciting for me.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, let's talk about right now. I think at this
time of year, are you still doing zoo lights at
Franklin Park.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, Boston Lights is currently going on at Franklin Park,
but this is your last week to be able to
see it. It actually closes on November second, so this
weekend is your last chance to get out there and
see it. We'll be launching zoo lights at Stone Zoo
starting on November fourteenth, so you didn't get a chance
to go to the lanterns, which are amazing by the way.
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Then we will be doing zoo Lights at Stone Zoo
starting here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, so they complementary, similar are identical because I have
been been to bolt Stone Zoo. We have my wife
and I have been to both Stone Zoo and also
the Franklin Park Zoo and I thought they called it
zoo lights and maybe I'm misremembered here at the Franklin
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Park Zoo.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, no, it's it's called Boston Lights there because it
is it's a little bit different of a setup there.
At at Franklin Park Zoo, it is lanterns, right, big
Chinese lanterns with vignettes of animals, really really neat stuff.
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And the zoo lights at Stone Zoo because Stone is
a little bit more intimate. It's just a winter wonderland
of Christmas lights.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh and how long will that light? Those lights? Do
they run through the holidays? I assume up up at
Stone Zoom.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes, absolutely, they run through the holidays. They'll be there
till right after the new year.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Oh great, Okay, And of course one of the things
that I rave about when I talk to people about
going to the zoo, and I was there a couple
of times this year is the home that was built
for the gorillas. It's amazing the access that you can
have to the gorillas. Now they're behind glass, or to
put it another the way, you're behind glass, so you
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can't say hello, you know, or pepto or anything, but
you can get really up close and personal with the gorillas,
which is an amazing experience.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah. No, it is truly an amazing experience. And to
be able to be so close to such powerful, intelligent
creatures and they have no problem looking at you, right,
and so just to be able to see that is
worth the trip to the zoo, just to be able
to look into their faces.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So tell us a little bit about yourself. All of
us on my program, you know know John Lenahan and
his experience. There are you new to New England or
you certainly I'm sure and not new to the zoological
world right now.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I am new to New England, so very excited to
move up to this area. My prior job, though, I
was the deputy director at Smithsonian's National Zoo and Conservation
Biology Institute in Washington, d C. And so I do have,
you know, experience in running a major AZA Association of
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Zoos and Aquariums accredited institution.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, welcome to Boston. I think you're going to New England.
I think you're going to love it. Let me give
you an opportunity to make what we would probably call
a thirty or forty five second elevator pitch to anyone
who has never been to either Franklin Park or the
Stone Zoo. Because obviously, if you've been to either, you
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want to go to the other, and if you've been
to both, you want to come back. But there may
be people in our audience who have never had the
opportunity to visit Franklin Park and or a Stone Zoo.
Let's have your pitch. What would you be talking to
them about if you were in an elevator ride for
thirty or forty five seconds?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well, I would be talking about our amazing staff that
have such a passion ordering the stories. Frank Park and
at Stone Zoo. A conservation organization, we are deady to
seeing d species sparking inspiration.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Boy, you know what, I.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Don't know if you're in a car, but you're breaking
up on me.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Oh no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, well nothing about it moving around? Are you in
a car?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
No, I'm not. Actually I didn't. I didn't move, so
you didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, okay, just try it again real quickly here, I'll
give you one more shot at it. Just just just
plug a couple of things that might attract some some
new attendees.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, no, absolutely so. We are a conservation organization dedicated
to saving the species and inspiring joy. We have a
new male giraffe cast at Franklin Park Zoo, which would
be amazing to come out and see. And while we
redo our panda exhibit, our red panda exhibit at Franklin Park, Gimley,
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our red panda is on vacation at Stone Zoo, so
folks can get a special showing of Gimli at the
Stone Zoo and visit him there.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Sounds great. Well, we'll talk many times in the future. Stephanie.
But Stephanie, welcome to New England. Stephanie Brindley. She's the
president and CEO of Zoom England, succeeding a great friend
of this program, John Lenahan. So Stephanie, congratulations. I know
you're going to be super in the job. And we'll
get as many people to Stone Zoo and Franklin Park
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Zoo as possible so they can enjoy these two great facilities.
Thanks so much for joining us tonight.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Welcome. When we get back, we're going to talk about
AI exit anxiety. I guess it's tough to pronounce. There's
a lot of anxiety related to the arrival of artificial intelligence.
Massachusetts ranks third in the US over AI job security concerns,
(09:44):
according to a new study. We're going to talk with
doctor Jasmine Escallera, she's a career expert, how we can
preps take that anxiety down just a little bit. Coming
back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You're on night Side, Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
All Right, everyone has heard about perhaps they don't understand,
but they've heard about artificial intelligence, and there's a lot
of concern as to what's of an impact artificial intelligence
might have dealing with job security? And I guess Massachusetts
now ranks third in the US for what I guess
(10:28):
should call AI anxiety with us as doctor Jasmine Escallera,
she's a career expert with Zeti zep Y, which is
a pro career site. Doctor Escallera, Why here in Massachusetts
are our anxiety levels so high?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Great question? So what we were able to do in
our Zetti report is really look at the states that
have the most AI anxiety, as you mentioned, specifically focused
around Google searches. What we were looking at was how
many employees in a particular state are searching for things
like job loss related to AI, and Massachusetts hit really high.
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And the reason why we think that's the case is
because many of the states that are that have tech
or government hubs are the ones that are being hit
the hardest with AI anxiety and in particular AI job loss.
So Massachusetts ranked high because it is one of those
areas where tech, where government, and where AI might have
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the most impact and effect.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Now I know there was some big layoffs today from
Amazon or layoffs announced from Amazon, how much of that
is related to AI? I still look at AI as
a concept and as a business model that's really just
kind of crawling at this point. Are we feeling an
(11:53):
actual impact at this point? Is the Are the Amazon
layoffs today related to AI?
Speaker 5 (12:00):
We're not really sure if the Amazon layoffs in particular
are related to AI because they haven't really come out
and said specifically that they are. So a lot of
what they've been saying is that it's related to the pandemic,
and many companies did do a lot of boom hiring
during the pandemic, and unfortunately we're still feeling those massive layoffs.
But other companies have come out and specifically called out
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AI and AI adoption and AI redundancy in terms of
particular roles as one of the major reasons for their layoffs.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So where do you see this going as a job professional?
And I'm sure you've studied it more than me. I remember,
you know when the AU might have remembered, but historically,
when the automobile stopped the horse and buggy industry and
everybody was considered, well, what are the blacksmiths going to do?
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How many people does the car industry employ over the years,
many more, I guess than there were blacksmiths. The big
tech bubble in the nineteen nineties, there's so many more
jobs created, and my hope is that artificial intelligence will
create a lot of jobs. Maybe a lot of us
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will be working more efficiently. But I'm an optimist on this.
I hope you share that optimism. But if you don't,
oh hit me.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I absolutely do. Yes, yes, yes, So our report is
not meant in any way to cause any hysteria around AI,
and in fact, we see a lot of that in
the media. But what we really want for professionals to know,
and I'm so glad you've brought up those different examples,
is that we have had many changes in the workplace
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and many different adoptions of tools and infrastructure that has
changed the way we work for the better. I think
that all of the adoption of new tools always causes
a little bit of a disruption because we're just not
sure how things will level out. So when it comes
to AI, what professionals need to know is assess the
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parts of your job that are highly automated or highly repetitive.
Have conversations with your company about how AI is going
to be adopted across your team and especially individually. At
your role and also talk to people in your industry
about how AI is being used. The idea here is
to know how AI will be adopted and to then
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complement the usage of AI, either in your role or
in your industry. That may mean learning new skills, it
may mean shifting a bit, but that doesn't mean that
all of our jobs are going away because of AI.
It really means how do we start to adopt and
accept the change that's happening in the work world and
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work alongside it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Is it too early to have those conversations? I mean
I feel that some people will start to spend too
much time trying to talk to their their managers or
their bosses whatever were theyre use these days to describe
those individuals uh, and that the bosses might get a
(15:13):
little freaked out themselves. Are we too far ahead of
the curve or do you think this is the time
when those conversations should be had.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I think it really depends on your role in your industry.
There are particular kinds of positions that we're seeing bigger
disruption in terms of the usage of AI. AI, like,
for example, the customer service industry. We see that when
we go on websites. Now there are chatbots that come
up and ask us questions. We don't really ever get
a human when we call customer service anymore, for me,
(15:44):
by the.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Way, doctor, for me, that is a huge problem. And
I believe that companies that come back to human customer
service personnel are going to be companies that do well.
I don't know if you agree with me on that,
but I hate check boxes.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
And I hate have to agree with you on that too.
I would like to talk to a human when I
call Verizon, well.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Absolutely, and I think that, you know, maybe they I
just think that these companies are going all in, and
I think if if I think, it's a mistake, a
fundamental mistake. When I try to get my newspaper redelivered
some snowy winter's morning, when they they didn't make it
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up the driveway, I end up dealing to get to
my Boston globe invariably with someone in the Philippines. And
when I try to explain to them that I understand
that there's an ice storm going on and a snowstorm,
they have no clue what I'm talking about. And I
hope that the bean counters that that's that some of
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these big companies take get the bean counter under control
and understand the value of a human voice.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
But end of speech, I think that you're onto something
in terms of there are many different aspects of positions
and roles that should not be taken over by AI technology.
And that's what we really want professionals to start looking into,
is what in my particular field and what in my
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role might be starting to be taken over by AI,
And how can I adjust so that I continue to
grow with the technology that will likely be used in
the workplace.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, and I love either the companies when they say
leave you leave us a voice message and we'll We'll
have the first available person call you back. Don't put
people on home for two hours, you know, just call
them back and make it clear. You could say, we're
dealing with a with a higher than usual phone volume
and we will get back to If not later today,
(18:00):
we'll get back to you between nine and five tomorrow.
That is the solution that these companies better start thinking about.
In my opinion, doctor, how can folks get more information
from you? And what is your website or what's the
best way to be in contact?
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Absolutely so, the best way to really check out what
we're doing here at Zeti and to get support with
your resume, your cover letter and understand what's changing in
the world of work is to check out zeddi dot com.
We have tons of informations and resources there to really
help job seekers and career professionals as they continue to grow.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Okay, and that's z e T y four letters, z
e t y dot com. Doctor Jasmin Escallera, thank you
so much. I really enjoyed our conversation and I'm delighted
that you and I are pretty much on the same
page because I feel a little smarter as a resulting
this conversation with you today.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Thanks Gay, Thank you have a great one you too.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Absolutely, we got the newscast coming up. We get back.
I have a fascinating story, the story of All Saints
Way in Boston's North End. Whether you're religious or not,
this is a story that will interest you and maybe
even excite you. Coming back right after the news at
the bottom of the.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Hour, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Now we're going to talk about the All Saints Way
in the North End. Gary Rizzuto was a painter by trade,
and he has taken over the task of maintaining. Uh.
I don't want to use the word alleyway, Gary, but
it's a it's a it's a walkway between a couple
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of buildings in Boston's North End which is dedicated to Saints.
And uh, it's a very interesting story. Let's start at
the beginning. How did this all Saints way start? It's
I assume it's mostly Catholic Saints in the North End?
Am I correct?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
This is true. How it began was.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
A man by the name of Peter Baldassari and roughly
around nineteen eighty five. He was sort of a maintenance
guy for the building and it's at four Battery Street
and twelve Battery Street, and he did handyman work and
cleaning of those buildings back then.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And he's a.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Very devout He was a very devout Catholic.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
And he asked the owner of for Battery Street, a
very very lovely woman, if he could put an image of.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
A Saints on the wall.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
And it actually is an alleyway, you know, walkway. It's
the type of alleyway between two buildings where people generally
would store their trash barrels.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Yep, that's what it is, right.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
And it had a big it had a big wooden
gate between the buildings so you couldn't into the alleyway.
And he put and I don't know the original saints,
and I could find out from the owner, but he
put a saint on the wall. And then he put
another one. And when I say he put a saint,
he made he took an image and he put it
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in a frame, and he put like plexiglass in silicone,
and he and he and he started and he did
one by one another and another. Each one had to
take hours to create. And then there are now then
there are prayer cards that are that are and and they're.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
In the open, they're out in the weather.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Some of these have ven here for forty and thirty
years and they're still in remarkable shape. So that's so
you can understand the time that this man devoted to
doing each one of them.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I saw the picture today. There's a lovely gait that
basically sat all said to that.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
In a moment, Yeah, let me explained. So so so
now the.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Walls, the doors, the they were adorned with thousands of saints,
and this one.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Man did it himself, just with with with no fanfare.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
No notoriety, just his way of honoring.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
The saints that he loved. And he was he was
a wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
When people would stop by, he would know it's a
wooden gates.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
You couldn't really see it.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
He would open it up and and people tourists and
you know how many people come to the North and
you know, they come for the food, they come to
the history, and they're walking around and they stumbled across
this place.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
So so I'm losing my train of thought. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
So I was just going to point out that this
is now a lovely gate.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Okay, so we'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
So so Peter, you know, over the years he did this.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
He you know, and it became real a landmark, and
people in the neighborhood loved.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
It, tourists loved it.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
And what happened was, unfortunately he had a stroke a
little over a year ago and this past spring he
passed away and the place fell into disrepair, okay, and in.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Really bad as far as trash and and just.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Things in the alleyway. And I was contracted to basically
dismantle and get rid of it. And they clean it
up and as I was doing it.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Okay, now there's still this big.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Black wooden gate on on It's not the iron gate.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
That you see today.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
So as I was doing it with bringing out bags
of trash and dump trucks full of trash and stuff,
people were stopping there. They were getting on their knees
on Battery Street and praying. People were Some people said
they come by there almost every day. Some people said
it was the first time they ever saw it. They
thought it was wonderful. They asked me about it, and
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I told him because I had been working at that
building as a painter for many years, I'm familiar with
Peter and everything. And then one day a man, about
three or four days into this project, a man, and
I believe he was from India, he stopped and he said,
he comes to Boston three times a year, and the
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first place he comes for business, the first place he
comes and he comes to spend some quiet time at
All Saints Way, and we've.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Got to push a little bit here again.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Okay, okay, I'll tell you right.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
So I called the owner. I said, we have to
keep the place right, fast forward, fast forward.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
And the place was kind of a mess.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I got to ask you one question.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I'll bet having listened to you, you probably came to
the conclusion to dismantle this and take this down probably
felt a little sacrilegious to you. I'll bet.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Well it was something that I didn't want to do,
but I wasn't prepared to take on the I wasn't
prepared at that time to take on this task.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
And it is it is, it's it's a it's a
big job.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But you now you have inherited this, this custodial uh
as it were.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
It's a blessing.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's a blessing whatsoever. So and you're doing a great job.
You have an event coming up. I believe it's this Sunday.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
This Saturday, November, I'm sorry, November, which is All Saints Day?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Isn't that great?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Of course perfectly? And what's going to happen.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
There's there's going to be a father Michael from Saint
Leonard's is going to do a dedication and a service
and a dedication at All Saints Way at Battery treat
at four o'clock. That will be all societies. I'm sure
you're familiar with the Saint Anthony's and the Saint Joseph.
All the societies will be present with their banners. We're
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going to go down to Saint Leonards for a full
Mass and then an All Saints Day procession with all
the societies and their banners through the streets of the
North End.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
It's going to be wonderful.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well, you know, it's gonna be wonderful. And also hopefully
the weather, which on Wednesday and Thursday is supposed to
be a little rainy. I bet you're gonna have good
weather on All Saints.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
I think we're gonna have good weather.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Can I just get to the gate real.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Quick for you?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You got to get them quickly right now.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Okay. So a great philanthropist in the North End, a
great guy named Frank T.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Pisqually.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
You know, Frank, can you come and look at this place?
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I need your advice?
Speaker 7 (26:50):
And he said, I love this place. I want to
preserve it. What do you need, Gary, anything you want?
I said, I want a gate so I can so
public can see this without me having to open it.
And within a few days that gate was installed.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It's a beautiful with the.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Beautiful gate with the lettering of all.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Other people in the community are.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Reaching out as well. It's just it's it's and from
all over, from all the.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Big two questions, real quickly, real quickly? Is there? I
know people want to want to go there on Saturday
November First they can with Google Maps and all that,
they'll they'll be able to get there. Four Battery Street
in the North End. Okay, how can people who can't
get there? Can they help you? Support you? Is there
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a website you have and address?
Speaker 7 (27:43):
We don't have a website up and running, but I
do have a it's a five oh one C three,
and we do have a a Venmo code and it's
at All Saints dash Way and you can donate any
amount and any amount is appreciated.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Okay, next time we do this might be smart to
get like either an address or a website, because I
know a lot of young people are very familiar with Venmo,
but there's a lot of people who are not. And
then the other question.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Is I'm only into this a couple of weeks now.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
No, I understand that I'm trying to help you though.
The only other question I have is with a last
name Risuto, no relation to the Great Yankee shortstop and
broadcast to Phil Rasuto.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Right, I you certainly am. He was a cousin of
my grandfather.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
How about that small worldly Hey.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
How's this Holy Cow?
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I think he's gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
He's looking down on your number eleven. All right, Hey,
thank you so much. I really do appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Gary, and thank you Dan for your time. This has
been wonderful.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Thank you my pleasure. We'll do it again. We'll do
it again. Thanks Gay.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
All right, all right, bye.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
All right, we get back. We're gonna switch from all
Saints to all Basketball. Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe,
So I'm going to talk about the Celtics. It's a
new season, it's a new team. There's a lot of
people we're gonna have to get to know on this team,
that's for sure, and Gary knows them better than anyone.
Gary Washburn will join us on the other side of
the break.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Delighted to be joined by Gary Washburn and the Boston Globe.
Gary is the top well, he's one of the great reporters,
but he specializes, amongst other things, in basketball. And Gary,
welcome back to Nightside. How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Hey, great to be here.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
You know, Gary, I'm looking at the box score from
the Celtics Pelicans last night and two things I noticed
about it. And I'm not anywhere near the basketball expert
that you are, But a lot of different names that
I don't recognize. Although a lot of names, of course
which are no longer there. But also, you get nine
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guys getting double figures in playing minutes last last night
against the Pelicans. I guess this is this truly is
a work in progress, right, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
You lose five players off of the championship team. Jason
Tatum is injured, Christasporzingis went to Atlanta drew out it
with the Portland Al Horford Golden State and Lou Cornett
San Antonio. So you're losing four starters and basically your
you know, main backup center, and you're gonna have to
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bring in new guys. And they brought in you know,
this team needed to cut payroll, so you couldn't bring
in players who made just as much as those guys.
You had to bring in cheaper players who might not
have had an opportunity. So you've got a guy like
Josh may Not, You've got a guy got like Luke Garza,
you draft Ugle Gonzales out of Spain of nineteen year
old prospect, you trade for Anthony Simons, who's in the
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final year contract. So there are a lot of new
names and new faces. So chemistry is gonna be an
issue for the next few weeks or even a few months.
They're gonna it's gonna take time. And that's kind of
the coherent theme of this team this year. It's it's
gonna take time. They're not a finished product. They're not
gonna be as good as their competitors, the Knicks and
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the Cavs and teams that have been together for years.
It's gonna take a while to develop that chemistry. But
I think they'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
What happened in gazaaleslast time I see it looks to
me like either was wasn't dressed, that he was a
d n B.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, he did not play last night after starting a
Sunday in Detroit. I think at this point Joe Mozilla's
just trying to mess around with rope, not mess around,
but kind of experiment with rotations, with playing lineups, and
so there's gonna be nights where guys don't play. There's
gonna be nights where they play. The next night they
play thirty minutes, and they're gonna have to get used
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to this. Only the guys like a Jalen Brown and
Derek White, pay and Pritchard are gonna have steady, consistent minutes.
The rest of the guys are gonna have to get
used to inconsistent minutes. They're gonna have to prepare for
maybe nights where they don't play as much, and then
the next night they're called upon to have a major role.
And I just think, being a nineteen year old rookie,
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you know, this is what life in the NBA is
like for a young player, and he's gonna have to
get used to it.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
So of the new the guys that they've picked up,
let's say, by Christmas, who do you think will be
playing a more important role than maybe there or to
put it this way, whose names give me a couple
of the players that you think we're gonna are going
to be closer to being household names. Obviously, everybody knows
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Derek White. I think most people know three point shoot,
amongst other things, that guard Peyton Pritchard, and clearly Jalen
Brown is a superstar in the NBA. Jason Tatum will
be back at some point. We can talk about that
in a second. But who are you got Sam Houser,
who I think people know from his time with the Celtics.
Of the new guys, the names that maybe are difficult
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to pronounce, so maybe the names that people don't know.
Give me a couple that you think are going to
have a breakout first couple of months.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Here, Well, I think you're three players who will the
Celtics hands are to get used to knowing their names
and learning their pronunciations. That's Josh Wynot who comes from Minnesota.
He was a guy who came out of college after
one year, probably a little bit too early. He probably
wasn't ready for the NBA. Spent the three years pretty
much on the bench in Minnesota, spending time between the
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big team and the G League team in Iowa. And
now this is his kind of opportunity. He's only twenty
two years old. This is his opportunity to really get
his first NBA chance, and last night was his first
NBA start. He flourished well. He was a plus forty
two on the floor, which means the Celtics outscored the
Pelicans by forty two points when he was on the floor.
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That is exceptional. That is a sixteen SAT score. That's
as good as you're gonna get. That's one hundred and
twenty five quarterback rating. That is a great number.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Absolutely, And he also had nine rebounds. Is a forward,
but nine rebounds and fifteen points, so that's a nice Yeah,
that's a nice set of numbers for him last night.
We'll keep an eye on who else. You know. Again,
you know these these guys a lot better than we do.
Give me a couple of other names.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Well, Ugo Gonzalez, the rookie from Spain, a guy who
has played for the Spanish national team, who played for
Real Madrid, so he's played around former NBA players, He's
played around, you know, older men, so his game is
a little bit more advanced than an average nineteen year old.
And then Anthony Simon's a kid out of who played
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in Portland the last seven years and was kind of
you know, hitting there. You know, the Blazers are not
a high profile team, but he can score with the
best of them, and I think we saw that last night,
which twenty five points. And then if you want to
add a fourth name, Luca Garza those are the four
names I would say Celtic fans are going to need
to learn over the next few months.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Where was Garza last year? He is? He a sentiment.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
He was a with the Minnesota timberwa was he was
a teammate with with my not kind of riding the bench,
didn't have a lot of time for him. He's bounced around.
He was a great All American player at the University
of Iowa. He was he was there a little bit
before Caitlyn Clark, so he was kind of Caitlin Clark
before Caitlyn Clark and winning the National Player of the
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Year and just having an amazing career at the University
of Iowa. But it has not yet translated to the NBA,
And I guess this is his opportunity for him to
kind of show what he can do and the same
as mine.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Not.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
It's it's amazing when when you watch these guys in college,
they're just fabulous players. And you know, in the NBA,
it looks like there's two rounds to draft, you know,
unlike football or even baseball or hockey, where you can
find guys in the fifth and sixth round. Read Tom Brady.
NBA doesn't have a sixth round and how so many
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of these great college players kind of just disappear. I've
never understood that. Can you explain that to me a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Well, the college game is different than the professional game.
It's officiated different. Every player in college, sorry, in the NBA,
most you know, they're elite athletes in addition to having
immense talent. So if you don't have that, you know,
elite athleticism. If you're not immensely talented, but you had
a great college year and you come out and you think, Okay,
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I'm gonna you know, come out and flourish in the NBA,
that's not necessarily case. Sometimes it takes years to learn
the idiosyncrasies of the NBA game. You know, your team
has to be dedicated to developing you. Some teams are
not as much interested in developing younger players as other teams.
They're gonna look at you and go, well, you hear
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all the here's the basketballs, here's all the equipment. You
work on your game. We're not going to push you
unless you want to be pushed. So some of these
guys doin kind of languish, they fail, or they just
become normal, average players, even though they had great college careers.
Sometimes it's a physical situation. With Garza, he was a
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little bulky, a little undersized for an NBA center, but
he's gotten his body in shape and he spread the floor.
Now big men need to shoot, and he's learned how
to shoot from the outside. So there's just a lot
of reasons why some guys don't translate to the NBA.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
All right, Gary, last quick question. Would forty wins this
year be a good season for a team that's that's rebounding?
Pardon the pun.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I think forty wins would be a little bit below
what their expectations are. I think they expect to make
a run at the playoffs. I think forty five or
forty six would be a good season. Fifty would be exceptional,
forty would be a slight disappointment. But there's gonna be
games where there's it's a razor thin difference between wins
and losses. This team is gonna play a lot of
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close games this year. There's gonna be times where they
look great and there are times they don't look so great.
So expect a roller coaster of a season.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Hey Gary, thank you so much. You're the best I
really enjoyed the conversation. I feel we got a tutorial
in the NBA and the twenty twenty five Boston Celtics.
Really appreciate your time tonight. Thank you again very much.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
You betcha all right, we get back. We're going to
start off. Our first topic is going to be a
piece of legislation is proposed by State Senator Paul feeni
Up at the State House which would limit the number
of self checkout kiosks at Massachusetts grocery stores. I'll explain
right after the nine o'clock news on night side. Buckle up,
(38:52):
We're gonna have a fun night.
It's nice eye, Dan Ray. I'm going you easy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Before Welcome on in everyone. It is that Tuesday night.
As we head through the night, I guess the weather's
going to get a little rough around here the next
couple of days. Nothing like what our friends and family
members are undergoing in Jamaica. And I don't know how
many friends or family members we have for Cuba, but
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it's going to sweep up past this big storm, Melissa.
So no matter what happens to us Wednesday and Thursday,
it'll be nothing and compared to what the poor people
in Jamaica have been suffering through in the last few hours,
and our thoughts some prayers should be with them. My
name is Dan Ray and the host of Nightside, heard
every Monday through Friday night right here on WBZ, Boston's
news Radio. With me tonight again, Rob Brooks continues his
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well deserve vacation and Shane Stokes that did a great
job for us last night, is all set to deal
with Nightside program number two this week on Tuesday night.
Welcome back, Shane and Shane will take your phone calls
after nine o'clock. In the first hour, we talked with
the four interesting guests, and we do have four interesting
guests tonight. They they're always kind of a polperrie that
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Marita puts together. So let's give you a quick rundown.
I'm going to talk with Stephanie Brindley, she's the president
and CEO, the new president and CEO of zun New England.
I'm going to talk with a career expert about anxiety
levels here in Massachusetts. I guess they're AI anxiety anxiety,
(01:39):
so I guess people in Massachusetts are concerned about what
impact artificial intelligence might have. And then we're going to
talk about All Saints way in the North End, fascinating story.
And finally, last but not least, Gary Washburn, Great Boston
Globe Celtics reporter. I'm going to talk about the Celtics
starting off the season a little slowly, but it's a
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it's a new roster, that's for sure. So we'll talk
a little sports, talk a little geography, talk a little
bit about about artificial intelligence and the anxiety that it
might bring on. But first Stephanie Brinley, the President and
CEO of Zoo New England, the new President and CEO
of Zoo New England, Stephanie, you have some big shoes
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to fill in that position. Your predecessor had been there
a long time.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Oh yeah, no, absolutely, John is an absolute institution there.
And I won't say that I'm filling his shoes. I'm
coming in after him.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
No, I understand. Now you come with a with a
great resume. And let's talk. When we say, uh, Zoo
New England, we're talking about more than the Franklin Park Zoo.
So so what will be your area of uh? You
your your kingdom if you will or you're you, you
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deal not only with with Franklin Park but also with
us Stone Zoo.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Right, yeah, no, absolutely, yeah. Zoo New England oversees two
amazing facilities, the Franklin Park Zoo and the Stone Zoo
up in Stoneham. And that's really exciting for me to
be able to see these two facilities that are in
very different areas with different collections. But how do we
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make a coherent story from the collections that they have
that there's a complementary collections and so that's just really
exciting for me.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Well, let's talk about right now. I think at this
time of year, are you still doing zoo lights at
Franklin Park.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Well, Boston Lights is currently going on at Franklin Park,
but this is your last week to be able to
see it. It actually closes on November second, so this
weekend is your last chance to get out there and
see it. We'll be launching zoo lights at Stone Zoo
starting on November fourteenth, so you didn't get a chance
to go to the lanterns, which are amazing by the way.
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Then we will be doing zoo Lights at Stone Zoo
starting here in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, so they complementary, similar are identical because I have
been been to bolt Stone Zoo. We have my wife
and I have been to both Stone Zoo and also
the Franklin Park Zoo and I thought they called it
zoo lights and maybe I'm misremembered here at the Franklin
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Park Zoo.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, no, it's it's called Boston Lights there because it
is it's a little bit different of a setup there.
At at Franklin Park Zoo, it is lanterns, right, big
Chinese lanterns with vignettes of animals, really really neat stuff.
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And the zoo lights at Stone Zoo because Stone is
a little bit more intimate. It's just a winter wonderland
of Christmas lights.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh and how long will that light? Those lights? Do
they run through the holidays? I assume up up at
Stone Zoom.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yes, absolutely, they run through the holidays. They'll be there
till right after the new year.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Oh great, Okay, And of course one of the things
that I rave about when I talk to people about
going to the zoo, and I was there a couple
of times this year is the home that was built
for the gorillas. It's amazing the access that you can
have to the gorillas. Now they're behind glass, or to
put it another the way, you're behind glass, so you
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can't say hello, you know, or pepto or anything, but
you can get really up close and personal with the gorillas,
which is an amazing experience.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah. No, it is truly an amazing experience. And to
be able to be so close to such powerful, intelligent
creatures and they have no problem looking at you, right,
and so just to be able to see that is
worth the trip to the zoo, just to be able
to look into their faces.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So tell us a little bit about yourself. All of
us on my program, you know know John Lenahan and
his experience. There are you new to New England or
you certainly I'm sure and not new to the zoological
world right now.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
I am new to New England, so very excited to
move up to this area. My prior job, though, I
was the deputy director at Smithsonian's National Zoo and Conservation
Biology Institute in Washington, d C. And so I do have,
you know, experience in running a major AZA Association of
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Zoos and Aquariums accredited institution.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Well, welcome to Boston. I think you're going to New England.
I think you're going to love it. Let me give
you an opportunity to make what we would probably call
a thirty or forty five second elevator pitch to anyone
who has never been to either Franklin Park or the
Stone Zoo. Because obviously, if you've been to either, you
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want to go to the other, and if you've been
to both, you want to come back. But there may
be people in our audience who have never had the
opportunity to visit Franklin Park and or a Stone Zoo.
Let's have your pitch. What would you be talking to
them about if you were in an elevator ride for
thirty or forty five seconds?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well, I would be talking about our amazing staff that
have such a passion ordering the stories. Frank Park and
at Stone Zoo. A conservation organization, we are deady to
seeing d species sparking inspiration.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Boy, you know what, I.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Don't know if you're in a car, but you're breaking
up on me.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Oh no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Yeah, well nothing about it moving around? Are you in
a car?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
No, I'm not. Actually I didn't. I didn't move, so
you didn't.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, okay, just try it again real quickly here, I'll
give you one more shot at it. Just just just
plug a couple of things that might attract some some
new attendees.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, no, absolutely so. We are a conservation organization dedicated
to saving the species and inspiring joy. We have a
new male giraffe cast at Franklin Park Zoo, which would
be amazing to come out and see. And while we
redo our panda exhibit, our red panda exhibit at Franklin Park, Gimley,
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our red panda is on vacation at Stone Zoo, so
folks can get a special showing of Gimli at the
Stone Zoo and visit him there.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Sounds great. Well, we'll talk many times in the future. Stephanie.
But Stephanie, welcome to New England. Stephanie Brindley. She's the
president and CEO of Zoom England, succeeding a great friend
of this program, John Lenahan. So Stephanie, congratulations. I know
you're going to be super in the job. And we'll
get as many people to Stone Zoo and Franklin Park
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Zoo as possible so they can enjoy these two great facilities.
Thanks so much for joining us tonight.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Welcome. When we get back, we're going to talk about
AI exit anxiety. I guess it's tough to pronounce. There's
a lot of anxiety related to the arrival of artificial intelligence.
Massachusetts ranks third in the US over AI job security concerns,
(09:44):
according to a new study. We're going to talk with
doctor Jasmine Escallera, she's a career expert, how we can
preps take that anxiety down just a little bit. Coming
back on Nightside right after this.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
You're on night Side, Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
All Right, everyone has heard about perhaps they don't understand,
but they've heard about artificial intelligence, and there's a lot
of concern as to what's of an impact artificial intelligence
might have dealing with job security? And I guess Massachusetts
now ranks third in the US for what I guess
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should call AI anxiety with us as doctor Jasmine Escallera,
she's a career expert with Zeti zep Y, which is
a pro career site. Doctor Escallera, Why here in Massachusetts
are our anxiety levels so high?
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Great question? So what we were able to do in
our Zetti report is really look at the states that
have the most AI anxiety, as you mentioned, specifically focused
around Google searches. What we were looking at was how
many employees in a particular state are searching for things
like job loss related to AI, and Massachusetts hit really high.
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And the reason why we think that's the case is
because many of the states that are that have tech
or government hubs are the ones that are being hit
the hardest with AI anxiety and in particular AI job loss.
So Massachusetts ranked high because it is one of those
areas where tech, where government, and where AI might have
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the most impact and effect.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Now I know there was some big layoffs today from
Amazon or layoffs announced from Amazon, how much of that
is related to AI? I still look at AI as
a concept and as a business model that's really just
kind of crawling at this point. Are we feeling an
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actual impact at this point? Is the Are the Amazon
layoffs today related to AI?
Speaker 5 (12:00):
We're not really sure if the Amazon layoffs in particular
are related to AI because they haven't really come out
and said specifically that they are. So a lot of
what they've been saying is that it's related to the pandemic,
and many companies did do a lot of boom hiring
during the pandemic, and unfortunately we're still feeling those massive layoffs.
But other companies have come out and specifically called out
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AI and AI adoption and AI redundancy in terms of
particular roles as one of the major reasons for their layoffs.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So where do you see this going as a job professional?
And I'm sure you've studied it more than me. I remember,
you know when the AU might have remembered, but historically,
when the automobile stopped the horse and buggy industry and
everybody was considered, well, what are the blacksmiths going to do?
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How many people does the car industry employ over the years,
many more, I guess than there were blacksmiths. The big
tech bubble in the nineteen nineties, there's so many more
jobs created, and my hope is that artificial intelligence will
create a lot of jobs. Maybe a lot of us
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will be working more efficiently. But I'm an optimist on this.
I hope you share that optimism. But if you don't,
oh hit me.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
I absolutely do. Yes, yes, yes, So our report is
not meant in any way to cause any hysteria around AI,
and in fact, we see a lot of that in
the media. But what we really want for professionals to know,
and I'm so glad you've brought up those different examples,
is that we have had many changes in the workplace
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and many different adoptions of tools and infrastructure that has
changed the way we work for the better. I think
that all of the adoption of new tools always causes
a little bit of a disruption because we're just not
sure how things will level out. So when it comes
to AI, what professionals need to know is assess the
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parts of your job that are highly automated or highly repetitive.
Have conversations with your company about how AI is going
to be adopted across your team and especially individually. At
your role and also talk to people in your industry
about how AI is being used. The idea here is
to know how AI will be adopted and to then
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complement the usage of AI, either in your role or
in your industry. That may mean learning new skills, it
may mean shifting a bit, but that doesn't mean that
all of our jobs are going away because of AI.
It really means how do we start to adopt and
accept the change that's happening in the work world and
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work alongside it.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Is it too early to have those conversations? I mean
I feel that some people will start to spend too
much time trying to talk to their their managers or
their bosses whatever were theyre use these days to describe
those individuals uh, and that the bosses might get a
(15:13):
little freaked out themselves. Are we too far ahead of
the curve or do you think this is the time
when those conversations should be had.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I think it really depends on your role in your industry.
There are particular kinds of positions that we're seeing bigger
disruption in terms of the usage of AI. AI, like,
for example, the customer service industry. We see that when
we go on websites. Now there are chatbots that come
up and ask us questions. We don't really ever get
a human when we call customer service anymore, for me,
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by the.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Way, doctor, for me, that is a huge problem. And
I believe that companies that come back to human customer
service personnel are going to be companies that do well.
I don't know if you agree with me on that,
but I hate check boxes.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
And I hate have to agree with you on that too.
I would like to talk to a human when I
call Verizon, well.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Absolutely, and I think that, you know, maybe they I
just think that these companies are going all in, and
I think if if I think, it's a mistake, a
fundamental mistake. When I try to get my newspaper redelivered
some snowy winter's morning, when they they didn't make it
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up the driveway, I end up dealing to get to
my Boston globe invariably with someone in the Philippines. And
when I try to explain to them that I understand
that there's an ice storm going on and a snowstorm,
they have no clue what I'm talking about. And I
hope that the bean counters that that's that some of
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these big companies take get the bean counter under control
and understand the value of a human voice.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
But end of speech, I think that you're onto something
in terms of there are many different aspects of positions
and roles that should not be taken over by AI technology.
And that's what we really want professionals to start looking into,
is what in my particular field and what in my
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role might be starting to be taken over by AI,
And how can I adjust so that I continue to
grow with the technology that will likely be used in
the workplace.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah, and I love either the companies when they say
leave you leave us a voice message and we'll We'll
have the first available person call you back. Don't put
people on home for two hours, you know, just call
them back and make it clear. You could say, we're
dealing with a with a higher than usual phone volume
and we will get back to If not later today,
(18:00):
we'll get back to you between nine and five tomorrow.
That is the solution that these companies better start thinking about.
In my opinion, doctor, how can folks get more information
from you? And what is your website or what's the
best way to be in contact?
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Absolutely so, the best way to really check out what
we're doing here at Zeti and to get support with
your resume, your cover letter and understand what's changing in
the world of work is to check out zeddi dot com.
We have tons of informations and resources there to really
help job seekers and career professionals as they continue to grow.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Okay, and that's z e T y four letters, z
e t y dot com. Doctor Jasmin Escallera, thank you
so much. I really enjoyed our conversation and I'm delighted
that you and I are pretty much on the same
page because I feel a little smarter as a resulting
this conversation with you today.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Thanks Gay, Thank you have a great one you too.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Absolutely, we got the newscast coming up. We get back.
I have a fascinating story, the story of All Saints
Way in Boston's North End. Whether you're religious or not,
this is a story that will interest you and maybe
even excite you. Coming back right after the news at
the bottom of the.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Hour, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray on w BZ,
Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Now we're going to talk about the All Saints Way
in the North End. Gary Rizzuto was a painter by trade,
and he has taken over the task of maintaining. Uh.
I don't want to use the word alleyway, Gary, but
it's a it's a it's a walkway between a couple
(19:40):
of buildings in Boston's North End which is dedicated to Saints.
And uh, it's a very interesting story. Let's start at
the beginning. How did this all Saints way start? It's
I assume it's mostly Catholic Saints in the North End?
Am I correct?
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:01):
This is true. How it began was.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
A man by the name of Peter Baldassari and roughly
around nineteen eighty five. He was sort of a maintenance
guy for the building and it's at four Battery Street
and twelve Battery Street, and he did handyman work and
cleaning of those buildings back then.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
And he's a.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
Very devout He was a very devout Catholic.
Speaker 7 (20:31):
And he asked the owner of for Battery Street, a
very very lovely woman, if he could put an image of.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
A Saints on the wall.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
And it actually is an alleyway, you know, walkway. It's
the type of alleyway between two buildings where people generally
would store their trash barrels.
Speaker 6 (20:52):
Yep, that's what it is, right.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
And it had a big it had a big wooden
gate between the buildings so you couldn't into the alleyway.
And he put and I don't know the original saints,
and I could find out from the owner, but he
put a saint on the wall. And then he put
another one. And when I say he put a saint,
he made he took an image and he put it
(21:15):
in a frame, and he put like plexiglass in silicone,
and he and he and he started and he did
one by one another and another. Each one had to
take hours to create. And then there are now then
there are prayer cards that are that are and and they're.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
In the open, they're out in the weather.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Some of these have ven here for forty and thirty
years and they're still in remarkable shape. So that's so
you can understand the time that this man devoted to
doing each one of them.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
I saw the picture today. There's a lovely gait that
basically sat all said to that.
Speaker 6 (21:57):
In a moment, Yeah, let me explained. So so so
now the.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
Walls, the doors, the they were adorned with thousands of saints,
and this one.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
Man did it himself, just with with with no fanfare.
Speaker 7 (22:17):
No notoriety, just his way of honoring.
Speaker 6 (22:21):
The saints that he loved. And he was he was
a wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
When people would stop by, he would know it's a
wooden gates.
Speaker 6 (22:29):
You couldn't really see it.
Speaker 7 (22:30):
He would open it up and and people tourists and
you know how many people come to the North and
you know, they come for the food, they come to
the history, and they're walking around and they stumbled across
this place.
Speaker 6 (22:43):
So so I'm losing my train of thought. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
So I was just going to point out that this
is now a lovely gate.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Okay, so we'll get to that.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
So so Peter, you know, over the years he did this.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
He you know, and it became real a landmark, and
people in the neighborhood loved.
Speaker 6 (23:05):
It, tourists loved it.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
And what happened was, unfortunately he had a stroke a
little over a year ago and this past spring he
passed away and the place fell into disrepair, okay, and in.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Really bad as far as trash and and just.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
Things in the alleyway. And I was contracted to basically
dismantle and get rid of it. And they clean it
up and as I was doing it.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Okay, now there's still this big.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Black wooden gate on on It's not the iron gate.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
That you see today.
Speaker 7 (23:44):
So as I was doing it with bringing out bags
of trash and dump trucks full of trash and stuff,
people were stopping there. They were getting on their knees
on Battery Street and praying. People were Some people said
they come by there almost every day. Some people said
it was the first time they ever saw it. They
thought it was wonderful. They asked me about it, and
(24:07):
I told him because I had been working at that
building as a painter for many years, I'm familiar with
Peter and everything. And then one day a man, about
three or four days into this project, a man, and
I believe he was from India, he stopped and he said,
he comes to Boston three times a year, and the
(24:31):
first place he comes for business, the first place he
comes and he comes to spend some quiet time at
All Saints Way, and we've.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Got to push a little bit here again.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Okay, okay, I'll tell you right.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
So I called the owner. I said, we have to
keep the place right, fast forward, fast forward.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
And the place was kind of a mess.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
I got to ask you one question.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Now.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
I'll bet having listened to you, you probably came to
the conclusion to dismantle this and take this down probably
felt a little sacrilegious to you. I'll bet.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Well it was something that I didn't want to do,
but I wasn't prepared to take on the I wasn't
prepared at that time to take on this task.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
And it is it is, it's it's a it's a
big job.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
But you now you have inherited this, this custodial uh
as it were.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
It's a blessing.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It's a blessing whatsoever. So and you're doing a great job.
You have an event coming up. I believe it's this Sunday.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
This Saturday, November, I'm sorry, November, which is All Saints Day?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Isn't that great?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Of course perfectly? And what's going to happen.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
There's there's going to be a father Michael from Saint
Leonard's is going to do a dedication and a service
and a dedication at All Saints Way at Battery treat
at four o'clock. That will be all societies. I'm sure
you're familiar with the Saint Anthony's and the Saint Joseph.
All the societies will be present with their banners. We're
(26:08):
going to go down to Saint Leonards for a full
Mass and then an All Saints Day procession with all
the societies and their banners through the streets of the
North End.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
It's going to be wonderful.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Well, you know, it's gonna be wonderful. And also hopefully
the weather, which on Wednesday and Thursday is supposed to
be a little rainy. I bet you're gonna have good
weather on All Saints.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
I think we're gonna have good weather.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
Can I just get to the gate real.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
Quick for you?
Speaker 2 (26:33):
You got to get them quickly right now.
Speaker 7 (26:37):
Okay. So a great philanthropist in the North End, a
great guy named Frank T.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Pisqually.
Speaker 7 (26:44):
You know, Frank, can you come and look at this place?
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I need your advice?
Speaker 7 (26:50):
And he said, I love this place. I want to
preserve it. What do you need, Gary, anything you want?
I said, I want a gate so I can so
public can see this without me having to open it.
And within a few days that gate was installed.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
It's a beautiful with the.
Speaker 6 (27:08):
Beautiful gate with the lettering of all.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Other people in the community are.
Speaker 6 (27:13):
Reaching out as well. It's just it's it's and from
all over, from all the.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Big two questions, real quickly, real quickly? Is there? I
know people want to want to go there on Saturday
November First they can with Google Maps and all that,
they'll they'll be able to get there. Four Battery Street
in the North End. Okay, how can people who can't
get there? Can they help you? Support you? Is there
(27:41):
a website you have and address?
Speaker 7 (27:43):
We don't have a website up and running, but I
do have a it's a five oh one C three,
and we do have a a Venmo code and it's
at All Saints dash Way and you can donate any
amount and any amount is appreciated.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Okay, next time we do this might be smart to
get like either an address or a website, because I
know a lot of young people are very familiar with Venmo,
but there's a lot of people who are not. And
then the other question.
Speaker 6 (28:17):
Is I'm only into this a couple of weeks now.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
No, I understand that I'm trying to help you though.
The only other question I have is with a last
name Risuto, no relation to the Great Yankee shortstop and
broadcast to Phil Rasuto.
Speaker 6 (28:28):
Right, I you certainly am. He was a cousin of
my grandfather.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
How about that small worldly Hey.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
How's this Holy Cow?
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I think he's gonna make it.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
He's looking down on your number eleven. All right, Hey,
thank you so much. I really do appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Gary, and thank you Dan for your time. This has
been wonderful.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Thank you my pleasure. We'll do it again. We'll do
it again. Thanks Gay.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
All right, all right, bye.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
All right, we get back. We're gonna switch from all
Saints to all Basketball. Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe,
So I'm going to talk about the Celtics. It's a
new season, it's a new team. There's a lot of
people we're gonna have to get to know on this team,
that's for sure, and Gary knows them better than anyone.
Gary Washburn will join us on the other side of
the break.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news Radio.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Delighted to be joined by Gary Washburn and the Boston Globe.
Gary is the top well, he's one of the great reporters,
but he specializes, amongst other things, in basketball. And Gary,
welcome back to Nightside. How are you, sir?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Hey, great to be here.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
You know, Gary, I'm looking at the box score from
the Celtics Pelicans last night and two things I noticed
about it. And I'm not anywhere near the basketball expert
that you are, But a lot of different names that
I don't recognize. Although a lot of names, of course
which are no longer there. But also, you get nine
(29:58):
guys getting double figures in playing minutes last last night
against the Pelicans. I guess this is this truly is
a work in progress, right, Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
You lose five players off of the championship team. Jason
Tatum is injured, Christasporzingis went to Atlanta drew out it
with the Portland Al Horford Golden State and Lou Cornett
San Antonio. So you're losing four starters and basically your
you know, main backup center, and you're gonna have to
(30:35):
bring in new guys. And they brought in you know,
this team needed to cut payroll, so you couldn't bring
in players who made just as much as those guys.
You had to bring in cheaper players who might not
have had an opportunity. So you've got a guy like
Josh may Not, You've got a guy got like Luke Garza,
you draft Ugle Gonzales out of Spain of nineteen year
old prospect, you trade for Anthony Simons, who's in the
(30:59):
final year contract. So there are a lot of new
names and new faces. So chemistry is gonna be an
issue for the next few weeks or even a few months.
They're gonna it's gonna take time. And that's kind of
the coherent theme of this team this year. It's it's
gonna take time. They're not a finished product. They're not
gonna be as good as their competitors, the Knicks and
(31:20):
the Cavs and teams that have been together for years.
It's gonna take a while to develop that chemistry. But
I think they'll be okay.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
What happened in gazaaleslast time I see it looks to
me like either was wasn't dressed, that he was a
d n B.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Yeah, he did not play last night after starting a
Sunday in Detroit. I think at this point Joe Mozilla's
just trying to mess around with rope, not mess around,
but kind of experiment with rotations, with playing lineups, and
so there's gonna be nights where guys don't play. There's
gonna be nights where they play. The next night they
play thirty minutes, and they're gonna have to get used
(31:55):
to this. Only the guys like a Jalen Brown and
Derek White, pay and Pritchard are gonna have steady, consistent minutes.
The rest of the guys are gonna have to get
used to inconsistent minutes. They're gonna have to prepare for
maybe nights where they don't play as much, and then
the next night they're called upon to have a major role.
And I just think, being a nineteen year old rookie,
(32:18):
you know, this is what life in the NBA is
like for a young player, and he's gonna have to
get used to it.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
So of the new the guys that they've picked up,
let's say, by Christmas, who do you think will be
playing a more important role than maybe there or to
put it this way, whose names give me a couple
of the players that you think we're gonna are going
to be closer to being household names. Obviously, everybody knows
(32:45):
Derek White. I think most people know three point shoot,
amongst other things, that guard Peyton Pritchard, and clearly Jalen
Brown is a superstar in the NBA. Jason Tatum will
be back at some point. We can talk about that
in a second. But who are you got Sam Houser,
who I think people know from his time with the Celtics.
Of the new guys, the names that maybe are difficult
(33:08):
to pronounce, so maybe the names that people don't know.
Give me a couple that you think are going to
have a breakout first couple of months.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Here, Well, I think you're three players who will the
Celtics hands are to get used to knowing their names
and learning their pronunciations. That's Josh Wynot who comes from Minnesota.
He was a guy who came out of college after
one year, probably a little bit too early. He probably
wasn't ready for the NBA. Spent the three years pretty
much on the bench in Minnesota, spending time between the
(33:38):
big team and the G League team in Iowa. And
now this is his kind of opportunity. He's only twenty
two years old. This is his opportunity to really get
his first NBA chance, and last night was his first
NBA start. He flourished well. He was a plus forty
two on the floor, which means the Celtics outscored the
Pelicans by forty two points when he was on the floor.
(33:59):
That is exceptional. That is a sixteen SAT score. That's
as good as you're gonna get. That's one hundred and
twenty five quarterback rating. That is a great number.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Absolutely, And he also had nine rebounds. Is a forward,
but nine rebounds and fifteen points, so that's a nice Yeah,
that's a nice set of numbers for him last night.
We'll keep an eye on who else. You know. Again,
you know these these guys a lot better than we do.
Give me a couple of other names.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Well, Ugo Gonzalez, the rookie from Spain, a guy who
has played for the Spanish national team, who played for
Real Madrid, so he's played around former NBA players, He's
played around, you know, older men, so his game is
a little bit more advanced than an average nineteen year old.
And then Anthony Simon's a kid out of who played
(34:49):
in Portland the last seven years and was kind of
you know, hitting there. You know, the Blazers are not
a high profile team, but he can score with the
best of them, and I think we saw that last night,
which twenty five points. And then if you want to
add a fourth name, Luca Garza those are the four
names I would say Celtic fans are going to need
to learn over the next few months.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Where was Garza last year? He is? He a sentiment.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
He was a with the Minnesota timberwa was he was
a teammate with with my not kind of riding the bench,
didn't have a lot of time for him. He's bounced around.
He was a great All American player at the University
of Iowa. He was he was there a little bit
before Caitlyn Clark, so he was kind of Caitlin Clark
before Caitlyn Clark and winning the National Player of the
(35:34):
Year and just having an amazing career at the University
of Iowa. But it has not yet translated to the NBA,
And I guess this is his opportunity for him to
kind of show what he can do and the same
as mine.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
Not.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
It's it's amazing when when you watch these guys in college,
they're just fabulous players. And you know, in the NBA,
it looks like there's two rounds to draft, you know,
unlike football or even baseball or hockey, where you can
find guys in the fifth and sixth round. Read Tom Brady.
NBA doesn't have a sixth round and how so many
(36:09):
of these great college players kind of just disappear. I've
never understood that. Can you explain that to me a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Well, the college game is different than the professional game.
It's officiated different. Every player in college, sorry, in the NBA,
most you know, they're elite athletes in addition to having
immense talent. So if you don't have that, you know,
elite athleticism. If you're not immensely talented, but you had
a great college year and you come out and you think, Okay,
(36:40):
I'm gonna you know, come out and flourish in the NBA,
that's not necessarily case. Sometimes it takes years to learn
the idiosyncrasies of the NBA game. You know, your team
has to be dedicated to developing you. Some teams are
not as much interested in developing younger players as other teams.
They're gonna look at you and go, well, you hear
(37:01):
all the here's the basketballs, here's all the equipment. You
work on your game. We're not going to push you
unless you want to be pushed. So some of these
guys doin kind of languish, they fail, or they just
become normal, average players, even though they had great college careers.
Sometimes it's a physical situation. With Garza, he was a
(37:21):
little bulky, a little undersized for an NBA center, but
he's gotten his body in shape and he spread the floor.
Now big men need to shoot, and he's learned how
to shoot from the outside. So there's just a lot
of reasons why some guys don't translate to the NBA.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
All right, Gary, last quick question. Would forty wins this
year be a good season for a team that's that's rebounding?
Pardon the pun.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
I think forty wins would be a little bit below
what their expectations are. I think they expect to make
a run at the playoffs. I think forty five or
forty six would be a good season. Fifty would be exceptional,
forty would be a slight disappointment. But there's gonna be
games where there's it's a razor thin difference between wins
and losses. This team is gonna play a lot of
(38:09):
close games this year. There's gonna be times where they
look great and there are times they don't look so great.
So expect a roller coaster of a season.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Hey Gary, thank you so much. You're the best I
really enjoyed the conversation. I feel we got a tutorial
in the NBA and the twenty twenty five Boston Celtics.
Really appreciate your time tonight. Thank you again very much.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
You betcha all right, we get back. We're going to
start off. Our first topic is going to be a
piece of legislation is proposed by State Senator Paul feeni
Up at the State House which would limit the number
of self checkout kiosks at Massachusetts grocery stores. I'll explain
right after the nine o'clock news on night side. Buckle up,
(38:52):
We're gonna have a fun night.
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