November 19, 2025 • 40 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
Proposed bill which would allow law enforcement to seize vehicles involved in illegal street takeovers and car meetups.
Guest: Rep. Christopher Markey – proposed the MA bill
New Flu Mutation and What It Could Mean for the U.S. – some predictions saying it could be the worst season in a decade.
Guest: Dr. Daniel Kuritzkes - Chief of Infectious Diseases at Brigham and Women’s Hospital
Why you should embrace new technology as you age.
Guest: Richard Sima – neuroscientist & Brain Matters Columnist for WaPO
Thanksgiving food that could harm pets. What you need to know…
Guest: Dr. Gary Richter - veterinarian and pet wellness expert – created the dog food brand: Ultimate Pet Nutrition
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's Night's Eyes with Dan Ray. I'm going easy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Here we are everybody, Wednesday night. It is about eight
oh six. Actually now it's eight oh seven. As the
clock just keeps moving forward, every sixty seconds a minute
goes off the clock. My name's Dan Ray, host of
Nightside Her every weeknight from eight to midnight right here
on WBZ, Boston's news radio. Rob Brooks is back in
the control room. We have four topics we're going to
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talk about in this first hour. No phone calls during
the eight o'clock hour with the night Side News Update.
How We're going to talk with state Representative Christopher Marky.
He's going to be with us in just a moment
talking about a new piece of legislation that would allow
and I think it's an excellent piece of legislation, allow
law enforcement to seize vehicles involved the illegal street takeovers.
Then we're going to talk about a new flu mutation
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that may be arriving here soon. I'm going to talk
with Daniel, a doctor, Daniel Kuritzkis. He's the chief of
infectious Diseases that bring them in Women's Hospital. Also Richard Sema,
who's a neuroscientist, and he's also a Brain Matters columnist
for the Washington Post why you should embrace new technology
as you age. And then we'll talk with doctor Gary Richter,
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a veterinarian pet wellness expert, about the type of Thanksgiving
food that could harm your pets, not only what they
need to know, but what you need to know. And
let us start with our first guest, State Representative Christopher
Marky Representative Markey.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Welcome to night Side.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Hi, good evening the story.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
How are you you call me Dan?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm not that old representative. Yeah, my goodness. You folks
are really young. I noticed that you were born in
nineteen sixty seven. You're a young guy here with a
pretty interesting political background, and I think you have hit
upon a piece of legislation that I think really is
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going to be very useful. You have had some of
the street takeovers down in your neck of the woods.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You're in Bristol County, right, I am.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, so you've had some of these street takeovers, just
like we have had them in Boston. But I think
that you could have been listening to night Side. My
feeling is if someone uses an item in the commission
of a crime, if they rob a bank using a knife,
that knife is taken away from them and it's used
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as potentially evidence.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
In the trial.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And I would also think that your idea here is
a brilliant idea. Tell us about this piece of legislation
that you have filed not only behalf of your constituents,
but behalf of everyone in the Commonwealth.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Sure, I agree with you. Actually, I've been saying this
kind of I'm also a lawyer, so I see it.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Two, we've got two lawyers. Now we're in big trouble.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Go ahead with the issues that go on with unregistered,
uninsured vehicles, the use of requier vehicles on public ways
or even in parking lots of malls in other locations.
And I was actually reaching out to the local police
chiefs and saying, hey, why don't you guys just seize
these things and hold them as evidence during the pendancy
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of the case, because one of the elements of the
crime is to prove that it was a motor vehicle
or a recreational vehicle and it was uninsured, that there's
no license plate on it or anything like that, and
you could store it and keep it at least during
that pendency of the case. This bill would even further
amend the law that we have currently. It adds a
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couple of elements to the crime other than just simple
negligent operation of a motor vehicle. It requires that it
hinders traffic, and it adds another element that it's with
a group of two or more people. It has a
penalty of two and a half years in the House
of Correction and up to a two thousand dollars fine.
But it does add this other element that is actually available.
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You can believe it for snowmobiles in Massachusetts on the
section twenty six of Chapter ninety you can actually the
conrolth could seize snowmobiles that I think it's typically out
in western mass when they're driving recklessly and doing that.
So there's ways to seize vehicles already. This just adds
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that as an opportunity. Again, the rights of the individual's
charge would be protected. They still have a right to
a hearing, right to present evidence, right to have a lawyer.
All of those things would still be available to an
individual charged and looking for seizing the vehicle after a conviction,
So there are protections for them.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, so you can I assume you can hold the
vehicle up to the trial or until they plead guilty hopefully,
and if they are convicted, you should be able.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
To keep the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
If you're using an automobile and transporting drugs, those cars
are seized.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
If I'm not mistaken, they are seized on the Chapter
ninety four seeds. In addition to that are also moneies
that are seized in drug trafficking and drug dealing, and
that again the Commonwealth or the DA's office would have
to file emotion to say that it's their intent to
seize the money and forfeit the money. The same could
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happen here in these situations where the cormotes would file
motion with intent to forfeit, and then after a conviction
they could go before the court and seek that as
a remedy as well as any type of punishment.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So why do you think this has been going on
for a while, Representative? Why do you think someone else
has to come up with this? I think this is
a great idea. I know that you have a background
as an assistant district attorney, and so obviously I assume
that you know how the due process works and how
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our system.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Of justice works.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It would just seem to me that you know someone
else you know would have gotten to this before you.
I say congratulations that you filed it, and I would
hope that you'd keep us in contact, and when this
gets close to a vote, I would be more than
happy to try to help you push this across the line.
It just seems to us who are not up on
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Beacon Hill every day that sometimes good pieces of legislation
like this, which make all the sense in the world,
just die of the vine. How can we stop that
from happening to this piece of.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Legislation, Well, it doesn't know. It actually does another thing.
It's also creates a crime of another part of disorderly
conduct or disturbing the peace while masked. So a lot
of these individuals who may not even be operating the
motor vehicles at these street takeovers, they're hanging out on
the corner, they're egging on their buddy to make sure
that they're driving recklessly and all that stuff, and they're
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hiding your identity to masking themselves currently just to disturbing
the peace. First offense is only one hundred and fifty
dollars fine, but I think there's more culpability with these
individuals that they're trying to hide their identity, making it
more difficult for the police to be able to do that,
so I I or to identify them. So it's in addition,
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it proposes a one year house potential one year house
a correction sentence, as well as a five dollar fine. Yeah,
I've spoken with.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think you're right of the money there.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And what I was going to say I just wanted
to add real quickly before I forgotten, and that is
that these are meetups, so these people know where it's
going to happen and when it's going to happen. It's
like they're not some little old lady walking down the
street at two o'clock on the afternoon that sees an
automobile accident. She's got nothing to do with that accident.
But if you're there, and you have made your way
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there at two o'clock in the morning because you were notified,
you're part of this performance, aren't as they seem to
describe it.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yes, Well, one of the things I was able to
do is speak with some of the truth fers who
are involved in the task force. Trooper Mike Clements, who's
been fantastic resource for me, and he's explained to me
how it's happened, and there's attempts to try to obtain
the information before it happens. They use social media and
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private con conversations and they're able to get a whole
group of people together. And there was the one, the
big one in the South End of Boston was really
the impetus for me to think about doing this. And
when I talked to Mike, he was explaining that, you know,
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they have resources available in the State Police to be
able to obtain the identities individuals through tracking, and they
would like to be able to do it through real
time because what happened in the South End, it moved
to Randolph and then it moved to Middleborough and then
you know they were in a high speed chase with
one of the individuals in Somerset. So when when they
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were able to identify these people being involved because of
the technology that's available, but we still need to find
and that's one of the next steps I think I'd
love to be able to do is improve the wiretap
statute that we have in Massachusetts. It's much needed. The
SGC has said we needed to improve it for a
long time. I think that could also help im prevent
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these types of things in the use of social media
in a real time basis.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, for a lot of these kids, it's the highlight
of the weekend. You know, most of us, the highlight
of the weekend is watching the Patriots or going out
to dinner with our family. But these kids get involved
in these these these street riots whatever you want to
call them, street takeovers, and then they lead police on
a high speed chase, which is not only puts them
in danger, but puts the public in danger and puts
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our state police offices in danger. So if whatever we
can do to help you on this, we could do
an hour on this some night, representative and have you
take phone calls from listeners around the state as well,
if that would help ring the alarm.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, I'm happy to happy to do that. I would.
I would love the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I would. There these are kids from a neighborhood. These
are kids who are coming in from as far as
away as New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and they're coming
from all over to participate in these things because they
have access through their phones and can move quickly, and
the police just don't have the ability to keep up
with it with the resources they have.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Sounds great, Representative, keep us posted, and I'm going to
tell my producers to try to sess something up with
you in the next couple of weeks after Thanksgiving, so
we can visit this during an hour segment and get
people have an opportunity. I think you'll be very pleased
with the amount of support you'll have on the state
Representative Christopher Markey of the South Coast Region.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
What's your hometown down there, Representative?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I probably say I'm from New Bedford, but I currently
live in Dartmouth, which I'm just as proud of. But
I'm very properly from New Bedford and Dartmouth, and.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You represent some of the other communities. I assuming that.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Next I represent all of Dartmouth and a little piece
of the north end of New Bedford, which is great.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Excellent, excellent. Well, thanks very much for joining us tonight,
and we'll we'll talk to you soon. We'll set this up,
I promise.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Okay, you got it. Take care, Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours as well.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
When we get back, we're going to talk about something
that might not make your Thanksgiving a happy Thanksgiving. A
new flu mutation which is coming around, and you know
this is a time of year. Going to talk with
doctor Daniel Kriskas he's the chief of infectious diseases at
Brigham and Women's Hospital. Back on Nightside with doctor Cariskus,
and we have a couple of more guests and then
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we'll get to phone calls and issues.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Of the night.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
We've got a good program plan for you tonight, as
we always do, coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, we are approaching the winter months and is now
past the midpoint of November with us. Were delighted to
have doctor Daniel Koriskus, sees the chief of infectious diseases
at Brigham and Women's Hospital, and he is going to
tell us about a new flu mutation. Mutation not what
any of any of us want to hear, but I
think doctor Kriscus, this is something all of us need
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to hear. Good evening, and thanks for being with us.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
It's a pleasure to be with you again.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So what's the what's the I want to say, what's
the good word? But I don't think there's a lot
of good words with this we're all sitting down.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
What are we talking about here.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Doctor, Well, the news is that in England, which typically
has a flu season that really predicts what we're likely
to see, they've begun to see a big upswing in
cases of influenza. They actually started occurring in early October,
two months earlier than they saw last year. And what
was different is that the flu strain that was circulating
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had several different changes in the outer protein that's responsible
for attaching the cells and against which the vaccine is
directed then we've seen in previous strains. So the concern
is that this strain could evade the body's immune response
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that is generated by this year's flu vaccine. We can't
tell for sure yet. We have not yet seen this
strain here in New England or in the United States,
but they're just beginning to look for it.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well, all of us when we think about a new
flu mutation, and I know what you mean by the mutation.
You described it very well as I would expect by
the way you know this stuff inside and out. The
first question that is going to be in my mind,
and I'm sure just in the mind of most of
our listeners, is we look at another thing like COVID.
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Is this twenty twenty all over again.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I don't think there's a reason for us to be
concerned that this is twenty twenty all over again for
several reasons. Number one, flu is not a new thing
for us. You know, we every year we have a
flu season. Everybody on the planet essentially has been exposed
to flu and has some level of an immunity to influenza.
So this is not a new virus. It's just a
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slight variant from what's circulated before, So it's not anything
like what we experienced with the COVID pandemic.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Now, of course, England is at the same level in
the northern hemisphere as we are, and normally, I'm late
to believe that in our summer, when it's wintertime in
the southern hemisphere, that's when a lot of what we're
going to get percolates, and that's I think, in some
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part what they try to base the flu, the flu
shots that they develop, and then obviously it becomes winter
up here summer down there, and we deal with the flu.
But now it sounds to me like this flu is
not a coming up from the south as it normally does.
This is one that's coming in effect east to west,
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coming from England. Is that an atypical direction from which
we find our flu arriving.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, that's a great question, and you make a really
good point. So we do typically face our selection of
which components should go into the flu vaccine on what's
circulated in the Southern Hemisphere during their flu season six
months ahead of ours. The basic type of influenza that
circulating is very similar. It's just apparently being transmitted within Europe.
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We know it was isolated in England, so we don't
know where it came from exactly. But in England they
noticed that what seems to be circulating is a slightly
different variant from what people had predicted. So it's possible
that these mutations emerged during transmission cycles as the fire
has made its way up to the northern Hemisphere, or
as it circulated in England or in other parts of Europe.
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But we still are projecting that what was seen in
Australia and other parts of the Southern Hemisphere during their winter,
which was a moderately severe season, is likely to be well,
we're going to see so we should probably brace for
a fair number of flu cases this winter.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
When when you talk about a moderately severe season, are
you able to quantify that and say, hey, look, amongst adults,
moderately severe flu season means that probably anywhere from twenty
five to thirty percent. Is that moderately severe or does
moderately severe mean sixty to sixty five percent of people
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will at some point be dealing directly with whatever the
variant is this year.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Oh, I think it's going to be much less than
sixty percent. I would be surprised if it's even thirty percent.
You know, when circulates, we're not seeing those kinds of numbers,
and we're just beginning to see the uptick ins of
cases now as we're getting into the end of November.
I think there are a couple of things for people
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to keep in mind. Number One, what we're talking about
most likely are numbers of cases, not necessarily a much
more severe blue. That is true that the type of
flu that's circulating is what we call H three and
two that one tends to cause more severe disease than
the other H one type of flu typically does. But
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that's all within the range of what we see in
normal flu season. So there's no reason for people to panic.
The second point is that there's still time for people
to get vaccinated. And even if this K variant, which
is the name they've given the one they've found in England,
even if it's somewhat less well protected by the current texting,
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there will still be protection and people should still go
and get the vaccine if they haven't already. And then
you know the typical things we do to protect ourselves,
washing hands when you come in from being out, and
about staying away from people that are coughing and sneezing
in a crowded space, considering wearing a mask. All of
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those are still going to be protected. And then there
is treatment, and treatment should still be effective even against
this variants. So if you do come out of the flu,
it would be important to get in touch with your
health care provider and seek treatment for flu, because that
can be very effective real quickly.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I know that COVID is still around.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I know that they're still tracking a few hundred cases
a week and there's.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Two or three deaths a week. Is that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Proof that COVID is dying out? Or is it proof
that we still have to be concerned and worried about
a resurgence? Of COVID, and that may be a complicated question,
but I'd like to see if I could get a
quick answer from you.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
On that, because I think yeah, hard part still in
the back of their mind. Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Yeah, I don't think we can be confident that COVID
has has died out. COVID could still reappear later in
the year after the flu season, and we do typically
see a little bit of a pump of COVID in
the summer months as well. It's not just confined to
the to the winter months, so people should still be
on the lookout for COVID.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Doctor Kriskus, I really appreciate your time, one of my
favorite guests.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You make it clear so that even I can understand it,
Doctor Daniel Kuriskus. He's the chief of infectious diseases at
Brigham and Women's Hospital. Thank you so much for your time,
particularly at this hour of the night, sir. And we'll
talk soon, and hopefully there'll be good news. Maybe a
month from now we'll be saying that the flood didn't
turn out to be nearly as bad as we were concerned.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Well, let's hope. So you're very welcome. Always a pleasure
to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Thank you so much. Will we get back.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We're going to talk have a couple of conversations, well,
a couple more one about embracing new technology.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Is you age?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Going to talk with Richard Simma or Seema? He is
the Brain's Brain Matters columnist with the Washington Post, and
then we'll talk about Thanksgiving food you should not make
available to your pets. Back on Nightside right after the
news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It's Nightside, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
All right, welcome back. We are now going to speak
with Richard Seema. He's a neuroscientist and also the Brain
Matters columnist for the Washington Post. Richard Sema, Welcome to Nightside.
How are you tonight, sir?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Dune? Well Dan, how are you?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Couldn't be better? Couldn't be better?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So the column that we're we we've looked at and
which would like you to talk about is why people
shouldn't embrace new technology even as you age. Now, I'm
assuming that the people who you're talking to here or
writing for in this column are the people who I
describe as being on the wrong side of fifty am.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
I correct, there's no wrong side of fifty. It's just
like a different place than life.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Well's way to look at it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
But giving a choice between being on one side of
the other, I'm on the wrong side of fifty.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Well, I hope you know ith comes wisdom. You know,
you have more memories.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
To look back on.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
There's not bad. There's also good things about being older
than fifty. But yes, you're right. This column was about how,
you know, using digital technologies, you know, stuff that's every
day for many people, like smartphones, computers, Internet. It's actually
not bad for the brain. It's actually research finds it's
actually quite mentally stimulating and reduces dementia risks, improves cognitive
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health for you know, older people.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Well, I'm in that category.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I've been working here at WBZ, either on the television
side of the radio side, for very close to a
half century.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
So you can do the math.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I do a radio show five nights a week, four
hours a night, and I spend a lot of time
with technology and also a lot of time with very
smart people like yourself on a variety of topics. So
I do understand and I feel that the more active
you are as you get older, intellectually, the better you
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better off you are. I try to do a crossword
puzzle at least try to do the crossword puzzle every
day out of the globe, just as a way to
kind of shut out the rest of the world, to
stop the phone from ringing and just focus on something
that is mere, that's pleasure and not work.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Is that a cop out? Do you think for somebody of.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
My age it's not a cop Yeah, and it's it's
very much related to this you know about technology, right,
is like your crossroad puzzles. Uh, you know, your hobbies
like these are you know, cognitively challenging, and so is
you know, going on internet sometimes like reading new things,
learning and keeping your brain active. Like there's a very
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nice wealth of research showing that, you know, keeping your
brain active, you know, keeps it healthy. And the most
recent studies looking at technology shows that this is probably
what you know. Using your smartphone does you not only
have access to the whole breadth and like depth of
human knowledge and culture, but it also allows you to
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you know, you have to keep up with it to
to you know, make sure you get all the updates,
like all the troubleshooting like that is annoying, but it's
also like keeping your brain fresh and trying to figure
figure out this new fangled like update that you didn't expect. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, I assume that you're on the right side of fifties,
so you might not remember this, but way back in
the fifties and sixties, those of us who were Baby boomers,
we used to know everybody's When you were growing up
as a kid, you knew everybody's phone. Remember, now you
don't know any phone numbers because they're all in your phone.
You may know a couple, don't get me wrong, But
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I just wonder if if baby boomers and we are
the older generation right now, that still, for the most part,
our cohort, our cohort still is pretty intact. People who
were born after nineteen forty six and before I think
it was nineteen sixty five, that twenty year period or so,
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we probably will be one of the last generations who
didn't grow.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Up with technology.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
And I don't know what if that's a factor in
your study, but I love get your.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Comment on that.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Oh yeah, so this review was actually looking at your generation,
and in research terms, you're the digital pioneers. You know,
you're the last generation that grew up without this technology.
But you're the first who you know, had a significant
time you know, like suddenly you don't have to send
you know, posted, like you don't have to post the
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mail to talk to someone across the world. You could
not have to go to the library to look up
the facts. You could pull out your GPS instead of
you know, pulling out a paper map. So it's like,
this is exactly the people that they were studying. You know,
you had to evolve with the you know, very rapid
(25:43):
growth of technology. Yeah, and I will have to say
that I'm thirty five, and I do remember growing up
and memorizing my friend's like phone numbers, because like, yeah,
I had to be able to be able to call
them before I had, you know, head over to make
sure that they're home to hang out.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But you never had to use a dial telephone.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
I did, oh, okay, not not with not the rotary phone.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
But that's really a rotary phone to me.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, I did not have Okay, I mean that took
a little exercise that you don't that you don't have today.
So tell us I always want to get a chance
to talk to people who do other things in this this.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Line of work.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I a long time ago wrote one column that appeared
in the Washington Post a long long time ago on
the retirement of the House Speaker Tip O'Neil.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
How how long you have been a column is with
the Washington Post. That's a pretty prestigious position.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Yeah, I'm relatively new. I guess in twenty twenty two
is when I joined. I, you know, did research in
neuroscience until twenty nineteen, so I made a curw jump
into writing about science, writing about the brand and instead
of dissecting them. I guess.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
So you have a medical background as well. No, no,
I do not.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I have a PhD. I like to call myself a
sake doctor. I guess if you no, no, no, no,
No PhDs doctors too.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I have plenty of friends of mine who are I
have a juris doctor as a lawyer, so we don't
attach the identification of doctor. But no, I'm very respectful
and I think that to be a columnist at the
Washington Post at the age of thirty five, what what
what made you or compelled you to switch careers and
(27:38):
head into into journalism. I mean, there are people who
have been working in journalism for thirty years who would
love to be able to say they're a columnist for
the Washington Post.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I'm asking the question honestly because there are people listening
to my show who will say, gee, maybe I could
get a job, you know, in journalism or whatever. So
how how did it happened for you? I find I
find it intrigued that someone could make that switch.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
No, I mean, there's, as you know, in life and
in this career path, a lot of certaindipity. But I
was always interested in communicating science clearly because you know,
it was because of these sense communicators that made it
wondrous to think about, you know, who we are as people,
like where we belong in the universe. And so I
study the brain. But I also was teaching you know,
(28:27):
science to little kids, or giving talks and stuff like that,
and eventually realize that I loved discussing these ideas, talking
to really smart people and sharing accurate information because you know,
journalism is crucial, right to trying to get as close
to the truth as you can ascertain it, and to
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give that information to people so that they can do
with it what they will to make their lives better,
to understand the world better, to understand themselves better. So yeah,
I'm very privileged to be able to do this as
a job, and don't take that for granted.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, well you sound great.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I got to ask you one of the questions, were
you actually hired by my old friend Marti Baron?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
No I think, uh no, Marty had left by that point. Yeah, yeah,
so no I have not. I've not actually gotten to
meet him. But yeah, good your friend.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Good guy, real good journalist had him on the show
just about a year ago.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
He had written a book, uh and on on all
sorts of of his his activity. So if you run
into him town Dan Race at Alle Okay, I really
appreciate it. It was it was a lot of fun
talking with you and talking to you and and I
didn't mean to get personal on it, but again, you're
in a very you know, very prestigious position and it
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gives up it gives people who listen a little idea
about how.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
People arrive at those positions.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
So thank you for entertaining the questions on the topic
at hand and also your career. Appreciate it very much.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Yeah, thank you for this conversation. It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Right back at you. We'll have you back.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Thanks Richard, Thank you Washington Post columnists called brain Matters.
We get back on a talk with a veterinarian about
the type of Thanksgiving Day food you should not make
available to your pets. Back on Night's Side, very important
topic coming right up.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
It's Night Side with.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Boston's News Radio, joined by doctor Gary Richter, vetnarian and
pet wellness expert, created the dog food brand Ultimate Pet Nutrition.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Uh, welcome doctor Richter. How are you?
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Thank you appreciate being here.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
All right? We now, all of a sudden, you have
that audio popped right in. That was great.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
No relation to a great middle linebacker for the Los
Angeles Rams of the nineteen fifties name less Richter.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
Right, No, Also no relation to the the NHL goalie
Mike Richter, you know New.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
York Rangers, absolutely great goaltender, great goltender. Well, now that
we had all that clariton out of the way, let's
let's talk about being a veterinarian. Veterinarians are very important,
always have been important in our lives when our families
have had various pets, and we want to hear from you.
(31:18):
There are some Thanksgiving foods that could actually do harm
to pets. And I think we need to let people
know now that Thanksgiving is well, Thanksgiving Eve is a
week away, what not.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You know, little turkey maybe's okay, but no gravy, I
guess right.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
It's interesting because you know, in principle, a lot of
the food on the Thanksgiving table is actually okay for dogs. However,
there's some real pitfalls that that people can fall into,
so you know, things to really look out for. There
are a small handful of things that are outright toxic
to dogs, So things like onions, garlic, grapes, raisins, macadamia nuts,
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chocolate for people that for that may be making something
sugar free like a dessert, artificial sweeteners like xylotol or
highly toxic to dogs.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And when you say toxic, you meaning up to and
including killing the dog.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Oh yes, yeah, Xylotol in particular, you can can absolutely
be life threatening. The other thing is just anything on
the Thanksgiving table that is either highly seasoned or or
just real high and fat. Both of those things can
just cause some real horrible tony upset.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
So everybody who has a dog, it's a part of
the family and there's no meal during the course of
the year which is more family centric than Thanksgiving dinner.
So what And it's kind of tough when you put
down there kibble in a little water or whatever it
is what you give them that it is not harmful,
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not in great quantities obviously, but I'm assuming a piece
of two of turkey without gravy would be okay.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
Everybody wants to include beer pets in the in the holidays,
and I think that that's that's great. So you know,
if you're making Thanksgiving dinner, you can certainly set aside
some baked turkey without skin. You can set aside some
vegetables and you know, you know, steamed or boiled vegetables,
so minus the butter and the salt and the sea
thing and everything, and offer that to your dog. They're
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gonna love it. It's super healthy for them, not going
to cause any problems. And that's you know that that's
the easiest way that you know that. The tricky bit,
of course, is you have to convince your drunk uncle.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Of all the everybody has a drunk uncle.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Everybody has a drunk uncle. Yeah, so that's the guy
you got to really keep an eye on.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Those are the guys who try to, you know, pour
half a beer into the to the dog's water bowl.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Yeah, man, that's the guy.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know this guy.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yep, he's been at my house too, Absolutely, no question
about it. And yeah, I guess you have to sort
of set it parameters and make people know. Depending upon
how really how I should say, I'm gonna say thoughtless.
I'll use a good word, thoughtless, not ignorant, but thoughtless
that people can be because first of all, they're in
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your home and it's.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Your pet, it's not their pets.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Uh, but they somehow want to become best buddies with
this dog that they've just met. Sure, they give they
want to give this anything, you know, peppermint patties. Oh,
absolutely have a cup. No, can't have can't do that.
It's going to cause yeah, cause real problems, you know.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
And it's and it's always it's always with the best
of intentions. And you know, I mean, there's there's always
going to be somebody who can't say no to the
sad puppy dog eyes and whatnot. But you know, it's
it's just like I said, there are there are so
many ways that you can include the furry ones in
in the holiday festivities and still keep them safe.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Ye would. I would. I often have done.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
We do not we celebrate Thanksgiving but at our son
in law's family of their home, and when we used
to have Thanksgiving at our home, uh and I would
always get a piece of you know, uh meet from
the you know, from the turkey breast, and I would
dice it up a little bit and just sprinkle it
into the into the kivel of our.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Dog at the time was of Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
And Charlie had a had a great opportunity to sample
the fear, the Thanksgiving fear, and feel as if they
were you know, it was part of the part of
the celebration.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I think that's the safest way to go anything.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
I totally agree. Yeah, I think it's great. And you know,
the other thing just to kind of keep an eye
out for is sort of the the post Thanksgiving issue
of make sure they don't get in the trash, because boy,
that garbage can sure smells good, and you don't want
your dog getting in the trash and eating like the
turkey bones and all of that business. So you know,
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take the trash out, so that way there's no there's
no temptation.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Tell us about your brand of pet food. It's called
Ultimate Pet Nutrition.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Sure, yeah, so, I mean Ultimate Pet Nutrition really really
came from, uh, you know, my my desire to to
really try and up level the nutrition of pets that are,
you know, beyond the ones that I'm able to see
in my office every day. So our food through Ultimate
Pet Nutrition, it's called nutri Complete, is a freeze dried
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raw diet. So it's it's it's perfectly balanced. It has
all of the benefits of a fresh food diet, but
because it's freeze dried, you have all of the convenience
of say, like a kibble. You don't, you know, it's
it's shelf stable. You just put it in the bowl,
you add a little water, and you're good to go.
So it's super easy to do. But you're really giving
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your dog just an amazing nutritious meal that that you
just you can't do with just kibble alone.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
No, are you a national brand?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (37:14):
Absolutely, we're available online. We're available you know, either through
the Ultimate Pet Nutrition website or also on Chewy or
you know, go online. You'll find us. It's not hard
to find, but Ultimate Pet nutrition dot Com.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Okay, well, the reason I mentioned it and I just
wanted to know that we love animals here on Pets
on Night Side, and we love dogs particularly. I end
my show every night by reminding people that all dogs,
all pets, all all cats, all pets, all go.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
To heaven and amen to that.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
We're associated with the charity of our program is called
the Shadow Fund, and it was founded by a law
school professor at the Massachusetts School of Law many years ago.
And there's there's no no admitted straight of costs or
anything like that, Professor Dian Sullivan, who's a saint in
my mind.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
We raise some money.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I donate my speaking fees, make donations, and she has
a group of veterinarians who provide at cost service and
we've done a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
If you ever get a chance.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
For the fun of it, it's simply called Shadow Fund.
It was named after the first dog that receives some help.
The people have to qualify, you know, they have to
be in need of some assistance. But we've helped. Oh
I shouldn't say we. Professor Sullivan and Shadow Funders help
literally hundreds, if not thousands of people here in New England.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Wow, what a great cause.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
I love that and thank you for doing that. I'll
definitely check that out.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Well. I just wanted to give you just for the
fun of it.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Google shadow Fund, and there's a shadow fund in California
which is totally unrelated, but shadow fund, n e fronew
England dot org, shadow Fund, and e dot org.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I don't want you to do anything, not.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Asking to do anything, but I want you to be
aware that there are people all over the country who
do great things, and one of them is Professor Diane Sullivan,
who during the entire fifteen or so years that she's
been running this program, she teaches law. She's also been
dealing with a couple of really tough medical diseases herself,
but she just keeps.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Ongoing and that's so great.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
She's an incredible human being, and I hope that you
could just Google it and get a little sense of
her and the number of people that she has helped out.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
So I will check that out.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
I appreciate you letting me know.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Veterinarians and special people too. It's tougher to get into
veterinary school that it is to get into medical school
in America these days, because there are fewer veterinary schools
veterinary schools than there are medical schools.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
And I'm sure you read.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
This is a statement. Yeah, I mean it's it's a
numbers game, and yeah it's it's a tough go for sure.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
You bet you well.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Thank you so much, doctor Gary Richter of Ultimate Pet Nutrition.
I assume that's a website people can and find and
check out pretty easily too.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
It absolutely is. I appreciate your time and shout out
to my daughter Abby in Roxbury.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Oh really, is she going to school up here or
working up here? What you do?
Speaker 5 (40:12):
He is?
Speaker 7 (40:12):
Yeah, she's a senior at Northeastern at great school.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Great, great, great school.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
My wife has a graduate degree from Northeastern University. Thank
you so much, doctor Richter. Appreciate it very much. Enjoyed
the conversation. Happy Thanksgiving. I call him by Naither.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Thanks my friend, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
A buy All right, we got the ten o'clock We
have the nine o'clock hour coming up. We have a
very special guest for you in the nine o'clock hour.
Her name is Gazelle Byrd. She's been the subject of
some controversy recently. She was an appointee by Governor Healey
to the Massachusetts Commission on the Status of Women. She
is a trans woman, and I wanted to give her
(40:53):
an opportunity to speak for herself and talk to you,
and maybe we'll open up some lines of communication. Coming
back from nightside,
It's Night's Eyes with Dan Ray. I'm going easy Boston's
News Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Here we are everybody, Wednesday night. It is about eight
oh six. Actually now it's eight oh seven. As the
clock just keeps moving forward, every sixty seconds a minute
goes off the clock. My name's Dan Ray, host of
Nightside Her every weeknight from eight to midnight right here
on WBZ, Boston's news radio. Rob Brooks is back in
the control room. We have four topics we're going to
(00:27):
talk about in this first hour. No phone calls during
the eight o'clock hour with the night Side News Update.
How We're going to talk with state Representative Christopher Marky.
He's going to be with us in just a moment
talking about a new piece of legislation that would allow
and I think it's an excellent piece of legislation, allow
law enforcement to seize vehicles involved the illegal street takeovers.
Then we're going to talk about a new flu mutation
(00:50):
that may be arriving here soon. I'm going to talk
with Daniel, a doctor, Daniel Kuritzkis. He's the chief of
infectious Diseases that bring them in Women's Hospital. Also Richard Sema,
who's a neuroscientist, and he's also a Brain Matters columnist
for the Washington Post why you should embrace new technology
as you age. And then we'll talk with doctor Gary Richter,
(01:12):
a veterinarian pet wellness expert, about the type of Thanksgiving
food that could harm your pets, not only what they
need to know, but what you need to know. And
let us start with our first guest, State Representative Christopher
Marky Representative Markey.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Welcome to night Side.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Hi, good evening the story.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
How are you you call me Dan?
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm not that old representative. Yeah, my goodness. You folks
are really young. I noticed that you were born in
nineteen sixty seven. You're a young guy here with a
pretty interesting political background, and I think you have hit
upon a piece of legislation that I think really is
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going to be very useful. You have had some of
the street takeovers down in your neck of the woods.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
You're in Bristol County, right, I am.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, so you've had some of these street takeovers, just
like we have had them in Boston. But I think
that you could have been listening to night Side. My
feeling is if someone uses an item in the commission
of a crime, if they rob a bank using a knife,
that knife is taken away from them and it's used
(02:28):
as potentially evidence.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
In the trial.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And I would also think that your idea here is
a brilliant idea. Tell us about this piece of legislation
that you have filed not only behalf of your constituents,
but behalf of everyone in the Commonwealth.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Sure, I agree with you. Actually, I've been saying this
kind of I'm also a lawyer, so I see it.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Two, we've got two lawyers. Now we're in big trouble.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Go ahead with the issues that go on with unregistered,
uninsured vehicles, the use of requier vehicles on public ways
or even in parking lots of malls in other locations.
And I was actually reaching out to the local police
chiefs and saying, hey, why don't you guys just seize
these things and hold them as evidence during the pendancy
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of the case, because one of the elements of the
crime is to prove that it was a motor vehicle
or a recreational vehicle and it was uninsured, that there's
no license plate on it or anything like that, and
you could store it and keep it at least during
that pendency of the case. This bill would even further
amend the law that we have currently. It adds a
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couple of elements to the crime other than just simple
negligent operation of a motor vehicle. It requires that it
hinders traffic, and it adds another element that it's with
a group of two or more people. It has a
penalty of two and a half years in the House
of Correction and up to a two thousand dollars fine.
But it does add this other element that is actually available.
(04:00):
You can believe it for snowmobiles in Massachusetts on the
section twenty six of Chapter ninety you can actually the
conrolth could seize snowmobiles that I think it's typically out
in western mass when they're driving recklessly and doing that.
So there's ways to seize vehicles already. This just adds
(04:22):
that as an opportunity. Again, the rights of the individual's
charge would be protected. They still have a right to
a hearing, right to present evidence, right to have a lawyer.
All of those things would still be available to an
individual charged and looking for seizing the vehicle after a conviction,
So there are protections for them.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Yeah, so you can I assume you can hold the
vehicle up to the trial or until they plead guilty hopefully,
and if they are convicted, you should be able.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
To keep the vehicle.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
If you're using an automobile and transporting drugs, those cars
are seized.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
If I'm not mistaken, they are seized on the Chapter
ninety four seeds. In addition to that are also moneies
that are seized in drug trafficking and drug dealing, and
that again the Commonwealth or the DA's office would have
to file emotion to say that it's their intent to
seize the money and forfeit the money. The same could
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happen here in these situations where the cormotes would file
motion with intent to forfeit, and then after a conviction
they could go before the court and seek that as
a remedy as well as any type of punishment.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
So why do you think this has been going on
for a while, Representative? Why do you think someone else
has to come up with this? I think this is
a great idea. I know that you have a background
as an assistant district attorney, and so obviously I assume
that you know how the due process works and how
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our system.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Of justice works.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It would just seem to me that you know someone
else you know would have gotten to this before you.
I say congratulations that you filed it, and I would
hope that you'd keep us in contact, and when this
gets close to a vote, I would be more than
happy to try to help you push this across the line.
It just seems to us who are not up on
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Beacon Hill every day that sometimes good pieces of legislation
like this, which make all the sense in the world,
just die of the vine. How can we stop that
from happening to this piece of.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Legislation, Well, it doesn't know. It actually does another thing.
It's also creates a crime of another part of disorderly
conduct or disturbing the peace while masked. So a lot
of these individuals who may not even be operating the
motor vehicles at these street takeovers, they're hanging out on
the corner, they're egging on their buddy to make sure
that they're driving recklessly and all that stuff, and they're
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hiding your identity to masking themselves currently just to disturbing
the peace. First offense is only one hundred and fifty
dollars fine, but I think there's more culpability with these
individuals that they're trying to hide their identity, making it
more difficult for the police to be able to do that,
so I I or to identify them. So it's in addition,
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it proposes a one year house potential one year house
a correction sentence, as well as a five dollar fine. Yeah,
I've spoken with.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
I think you're right of the money there.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
And what I was going to say I just wanted
to add real quickly before I forgotten, and that is
that these are meetups, so these people know where it's
going to happen and when it's going to happen. It's
like they're not some little old lady walking down the
street at two o'clock on the afternoon that sees an
automobile accident. She's got nothing to do with that accident.
But if you're there, and you have made your way
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there at two o'clock in the morning because you were notified,
you're part of this performance, aren't as they seem to
describe it.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yes, Well, one of the things I was able to
do is speak with some of the truth fers who
are involved in the task force. Trooper Mike Clements, who's
been fantastic resource for me, and he's explained to me
how it's happened, and there's attempts to try to obtain
the information before it happens. They use social media and
(08:15):
private con conversations and they're able to get a whole
group of people together. And there was the one, the
big one in the South End of Boston was really
the impetus for me to think about doing this. And
when I talked to Mike, he was explaining that, you know,
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they have resources available in the State Police to be
able to obtain the identities individuals through tracking, and they
would like to be able to do it through real
time because what happened in the South End, it moved
to Randolph and then it moved to Middleborough and then
you know they were in a high speed chase with
one of the individuals in Somerset. So when when they
(08:55):
were able to identify these people being involved because of
the technology that's available, but we still need to find
and that's one of the next steps I think I'd
love to be able to do is improve the wiretap
statute that we have in Massachusetts. It's much needed. The
SGC has said we needed to improve it for a
long time. I think that could also help im prevent
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these types of things in the use of social media
in a real time basis.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah, for a lot of these kids, it's the highlight
of the weekend. You know, most of us, the highlight
of the weekend is watching the Patriots or going out
to dinner with our family. But these kids get involved
in these these these street riots whatever you want to
call them, street takeovers, and then they lead police on
a high speed chase, which is not only puts them
in danger, but puts the public in danger and puts
(09:44):
our state police offices in danger. So if whatever we
can do to help you on this, we could do
an hour on this some night, representative and have you
take phone calls from listeners around the state as well,
if that would help ring the alarm.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Yeah, I'm happy to happy to do that. I would.
I would love the opportunity.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
To do that.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
I would. There these are kids from a neighborhood. These
are kids who are coming in from as far as
away as New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, and they're coming
from all over to participate in these things because they
have access through their phones and can move quickly, and
the police just don't have the ability to keep up
with it with the resources they have.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Sounds great, Representative, keep us posted, and I'm going to
tell my producers to try to sess something up with
you in the next couple of weeks after Thanksgiving, so
we can visit this during an hour segment and get
people have an opportunity. I think you'll be very pleased
with the amount of support you'll have on the state
Representative Christopher Markey of the South Coast Region.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
What's your hometown down there, Representative?
Speaker 4 (10:51):
I probably say I'm from New Bedford, but I currently
live in Dartmouth, which I'm just as proud of. But
I'm very properly from New Bedford and Dartmouth, and.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
You represent some of the other communities. I assuming that.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Next I represent all of Dartmouth and a little piece
of the north end of New Bedford, which is great.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Excellent, excellent. Well, thanks very much for joining us tonight,
and we'll we'll talk to you soon. We'll set this up,
I promise.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Okay, you got it. Take care, Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours as well.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
When we get back, we're going to talk about something
that might not make your Thanksgiving a happy Thanksgiving. A
new flu mutation which is coming around, and you know
this is a time of year. Going to talk with
doctor Daniel Kriskas he's the chief of infectious diseases at
Brigham and Women's Hospital. Back on Nightside with doctor Cariskus,
and we have a couple of more guests and then
(11:40):
we'll get to phone calls and issues.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Of the night.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
We've got a good program plan for you tonight, as
we always do, coming back on Nightside.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
You're on night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's
news radio.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, we are approaching the winter months and is now
past the midpoint of November with us. Were delighted to
have doctor Daniel Koriskus, sees the chief of infectious diseases
at Brigham and Women's Hospital, and he is going to
tell us about a new flu mutation. Mutation not what
any of any of us want to hear, but I
think doctor Kriscus, this is something all of us need
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to hear. Good evening, and thanks for being with us.
Speaker 5 (12:20):
It's a pleasure to be with you again.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
So what's the what's the I want to say, what's
the good word? But I don't think there's a lot
of good words with this we're all sitting down.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
What are we talking about here.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Doctor, Well, the news is that in England, which typically
has a flu season that really predicts what we're likely
to see, they've begun to see a big upswing in
cases of influenza. They actually started occurring in early October,
two months earlier than they saw last year. And what
was different is that the flu strain that was circulating
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had several different changes in the outer protein that's responsible
for attaching the cells and against which the vaccine is
directed then we've seen in previous strains. So the concern
is that this strain could evade the body's immune response
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that is generated by this year's flu vaccine. We can't
tell for sure yet. We have not yet seen this
strain here in New England or in the United States,
but they're just beginning to look for it.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Well, all of us when we think about a new
flu mutation, and I know what you mean by the mutation.
You described it very well as I would expect by
the way you know this stuff inside and out. The
first question that is going to be in my mind,
and I'm sure just in the mind of most of
our listeners, is we look at another thing like COVID.
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Is this twenty twenty all over again.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
I don't think there's a reason for us to be
concerned that this is twenty twenty all over again for
several reasons. Number one, flu is not a new thing
for us. You know, we every year we have a
flu season. Everybody on the planet essentially has been exposed
to flu and has some level of an immunity to influenza.
So this is not a new virus. It's just a
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slight variant from what's circulated before, So it's not anything
like what we experienced with the COVID pandemic.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Now, of course, England is at the same level in
the northern hemisphere as we are, and normally, I'm late
to believe that in our summer, when it's wintertime in
the southern hemisphere, that's when a lot of what we're
going to get percolates, and that's I think, in some
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part what they try to base the flu, the flu
shots that they develop, and then obviously it becomes winter
up here summer down there, and we deal with the flu.
But now it sounds to me like this flu is
not a coming up from the south as it normally does.
This is one that's coming in effect east to west,
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coming from England. Is that an atypical direction from which
we find our flu arriving.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah, that's a great question, and you make a really
good point. So we do typically face our selection of
which components should go into the flu vaccine on what's
circulated in the Southern Hemisphere during their flu season six
months ahead of ours. The basic type of influenza that
circulating is very similar. It's just apparently being transmitted within Europe.
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We know it was isolated in England, so we don't
know where it came from exactly. But in England they
noticed that what seems to be circulating is a slightly
different variant from what people had predicted. So it's possible
that these mutations emerged during transmission cycles as the fire
has made its way up to the northern Hemisphere, or
as it circulated in England or in other parts of Europe.
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But we still are projecting that what was seen in
Australia and other parts of the Southern Hemisphere during their winter,
which was a moderately severe season, is likely to be well,
we're going to see so we should probably brace for
a fair number of flu cases this winter.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
When when you talk about a moderately severe season, are
you able to quantify that and say, hey, look, amongst adults,
moderately severe flu season means that probably anywhere from twenty
five to thirty percent. Is that moderately severe or does
moderately severe mean sixty to sixty five percent of people
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will at some point be dealing directly with whatever the
variant is this year.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Oh, I think it's going to be much less than
sixty percent. I would be surprised if it's even thirty percent.
You know, when circulates, we're not seeing those kinds of numbers,
and we're just beginning to see the uptick ins of
cases now as we're getting into the end of November.
I think there are a couple of things for people
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to keep in mind. Number One, what we're talking about
most likely are numbers of cases, not necessarily a much
more severe blue. That is true that the type of
flu that's circulating is what we call H three and
two that one tends to cause more severe disease than
the other H one type of flu typically does. But
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that's all within the range of what we see in
normal flu season. So there's no reason for people to panic.
The second point is that there's still time for people
to get vaccinated. And even if this K variant, which
is the name they've given the one they've found in England,
even if it's somewhat less well protected by the current texting,
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there will still be protection and people should still go
and get the vaccine if they haven't already. And then
you know the typical things we do to protect ourselves,
washing hands when you come in from being out, and
about staying away from people that are coughing and sneezing
in a crowded space, considering wearing a mask. All of
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those are still going to be protected. And then there
is treatment, and treatment should still be effective even against
this variants. So if you do come out of the flu,
it would be important to get in touch with your
health care provider and seek treatment for flu, because that
can be very effective real quickly.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
I know that COVID is still around.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
I know that they're still tracking a few hundred cases
a week and there's.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Two or three deaths a week. Is that.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Proof that COVID is dying out? Or is it proof
that we still have to be concerned and worried about
a resurgence? Of COVID, and that may be a complicated question,
but I'd like to see if I could get a
quick answer from you.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
On that, because I think yeah, hard part still in
the back of their mind. Go ahead.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Yeah, I don't think we can be confident that COVID
has has died out. COVID could still reappear later in
the year after the flu season, and we do typically
see a little bit of a pump of COVID in
the summer months as well. It's not just confined to
the to the winter months, so people should still be
on the lookout for COVID.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Doctor Kriskus, I really appreciate your time, one of my
favorite guests.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You make it clear so that even I can understand it,
Doctor Daniel Kuriskus. He's the chief of infectious diseases at
Brigham and Women's Hospital. Thank you so much for your time,
particularly at this hour of the night, sir. And we'll
talk soon, and hopefully there'll be good news. Maybe a
month from now we'll be saying that the flood didn't
turn out to be nearly as bad as we were concerned.
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Well, let's hope. So you're very welcome. Always a pleasure
to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Thank you so much. Will we get back.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
We're going to talk have a couple of conversations, well,
a couple more one about embracing new technology.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Is you age?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Going to talk with Richard Simma or Seema? He is
the Brain's Brain Matters columnist with the Washington Post, and
then we'll talk about Thanksgiving food you should not make
available to your pets. Back on Nightside right after the
news at the bottom of the hour.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It's Nightside, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
All right, welcome back. We are now going to speak
with Richard Seema. He's a neuroscientist and also the Brain
Matters columnist for the Washington Post. Richard Sema, Welcome to Nightside.
How are you tonight, sir?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (20:42):
Dune? Well Dan, how are you?
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Couldn't be better? Couldn't be better?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
So the column that we're we we've looked at and
which would like you to talk about is why people
shouldn't embrace new technology even as you age. Now, I'm
assuming that the people who you're talking to here or
writing for in this column are the people who I
describe as being on the wrong side of fifty am.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
I correct, there's no wrong side of fifty. It's just
like a different place than life.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Well's way to look at it.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
But giving a choice between being on one side of
the other, I'm on the wrong side of fifty.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Well, I hope you know ith comes wisdom. You know,
you have more memories.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
To look back on.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
There's not bad. There's also good things about being older
than fifty. But yes, you're right. This column was about how,
you know, using digital technologies, you know, stuff that's every
day for many people, like smartphones, computers, Internet. It's actually
not bad for the brain. It's actually research finds it's
actually quite mentally stimulating and reduces dementia risks, improves cognitive
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health for you know, older people.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Well, I'm in that category.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
I've been working here at WBZ, either on the television
side of the radio side, for very close to a
half century.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
So you can do the math.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I do a radio show five nights a week, four
hours a night, and I spend a lot of time
with technology and also a lot of time with very
smart people like yourself on a variety of topics. So
I do understand and I feel that the more active
you are as you get older, intellectually, the better you
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better off you are. I try to do a crossword
puzzle at least try to do the crossword puzzle every
day out of the globe, just as a way to
kind of shut out the rest of the world, to
stop the phone from ringing and just focus on something
that is mere, that's pleasure and not work.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Is that a cop out? Do you think for somebody of.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
My age it's not a cop Yeah, and it's it's
very much related to this you know about technology, right,
is like your crossroad puzzles. Uh, you know, your hobbies
like these are you know, cognitively challenging, and so is
you know, going on internet sometimes like reading new things,
learning and keeping your brain active. Like there's a very
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nice wealth of research showing that, you know, keeping your
brain active, you know, keeps it healthy. And the most
recent studies looking at technology shows that this is probably
what you know. Using your smartphone does you not only
have access to the whole breadth and like depth of
human knowledge and culture, but it also allows you to
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you know, you have to keep up with it to
to you know, make sure you get all the updates,
like all the troubleshooting like that is annoying, but it's
also like keeping your brain fresh and trying to figure
figure out this new fangled like update that you didn't expect. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, I assume that you're on the right side of fifties,
so you might not remember this, but way back in
the fifties and sixties, those of us who were Baby boomers,
we used to know everybody's When you were growing up
as a kid, you knew everybody's phone. Remember, now you
don't know any phone numbers because they're all in your phone.
You may know a couple, don't get me wrong, But
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I just wonder if if baby boomers and we are
the older generation right now, that still, for the most part,
our cohort, our cohort still is pretty intact. People who
were born after nineteen forty six and before I think
it was nineteen sixty five, that twenty year period or so,
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we probably will be one of the last generations who
didn't grow.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Up with technology.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
And I don't know what if that's a factor in
your study, but I love get your.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Comment on that.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Oh yeah, so this review was actually looking at your generation,
and in research terms, you're the digital pioneers. You know,
you're the last generation that grew up without this technology.
But you're the first who you know, had a significant
time you know, like suddenly you don't have to send
you know, posted, like you don't have to post the
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mail to talk to someone across the world. You could
not have to go to the library to look up
the facts. You could pull out your GPS instead of
you know, pulling out a paper map. So it's like,
this is exactly the people that they were studying. You know,
you had to evolve with the you know, very rapid
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growth of technology. Yeah, and I will have to say
that I'm thirty five, and I do remember growing up
and memorizing my friend's like phone numbers, because like, yeah,
I had to be able to be able to call
them before I had, you know, head over to make
sure that they're home to hang out.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But you never had to use a dial telephone.
Speaker 6 (26:04):
I did, oh, okay, not not with not the rotary phone.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
But that's really a rotary phone to me.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yeah, I did not have Okay, I mean that took
a little exercise that you don't that you don't have today.
So tell us I always want to get a chance
to talk to people who do other things in this this.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Line of work.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I a long time ago wrote one column that appeared
in the Washington Post a long long time ago on
the retirement of the House Speaker Tip O'Neil.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
How how long you have been a column is with
the Washington Post. That's a pretty prestigious position.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
Yeah, I'm relatively new. I guess in twenty twenty two
is when I joined. I, you know, did research in
neuroscience until twenty nineteen, so I made a curw jump
into writing about science, writing about the brand and instead
of dissecting them. I guess.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
So you have a medical background as well. No, no,
I do not.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
I have a PhD. I like to call myself a
sake doctor. I guess if you no, no, no, no,
No PhDs doctors too.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
I have plenty of friends of mine who are I
have a juris doctor as a lawyer, so we don't
attach the identification of doctor. But no, I'm very respectful
and I think that to be a columnist at the
Washington Post at the age of thirty five, what what
what made you or compelled you to switch careers and
(27:38):
head into into journalism. I mean, there are people who
have been working in journalism for thirty years who would
love to be able to say they're a columnist for
the Washington Post.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
I'm asking the question honestly because there are people listening
to my show who will say, gee, maybe I could
get a job, you know, in journalism or whatever. So
how how did it happened for you? I find I
find it intrigued that someone could make that switch.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
No, I mean, there's, as you know, in life and
in this career path, a lot of certaindipity. But I
was always interested in communicating science clearly because you know,
it was because of these sense communicators that made it
wondrous to think about, you know, who we are as people,
like where we belong in the universe. And so I
study the brain. But I also was teaching you know,
(28:27):
science to little kids, or giving talks and stuff like that,
and eventually realize that I loved discussing these ideas, talking
to really smart people and sharing accurate information because you know,
journalism is crucial, right to trying to get as close
to the truth as you can ascertain it, and to
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give that information to people so that they can do
with it what they will to make their lives better,
to understand the world better, to understand themselves better. So yeah,
I'm very privileged to be able to do this as
a job, and don't take that for granted.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Well, well you sound great.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I got to ask you one of the questions, were
you actually hired by my old friend Marti Baron?
Speaker 6 (29:11):
No I think, uh no, Marty had left by that point. Yeah, yeah,
so no I have not. I've not actually gotten to
meet him. But yeah, good your friend.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Good guy, real good journalist had him on the show
just about a year ago.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
He had written a book, uh and on on all
sorts of of his his activity. So if you run
into him town Dan Race at Alle Okay, I really
appreciate it. It was it was a lot of fun
talking with you and talking to you and and I
didn't mean to get personal on it, but again, you're
in a very you know, very prestigious position and it
(29:49):
gives up it gives people who listen a little idea
about how.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
People arrive at those positions.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
So thank you for entertaining the questions on the topic
at hand and also your career. Appreciate it very much.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Yeah, thank you for this conversation. It's always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Right back at you. We'll have you back.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Thanks Richard, Thank you Washington Post columnists called brain Matters.
We get back on a talk with a veterinarian about
the type of Thanksgiving Day food you should not make
available to your pets. Back on Night's Side, very important
topic coming right up.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
It's Night Side with.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Boston's News Radio, joined by doctor Gary Richter, vetnarian and
pet wellness expert, created the dog food brand Ultimate Pet Nutrition.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Uh, welcome doctor Richter. How are you?
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Thank you appreciate being here.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
All right? We now, all of a sudden, you have
that audio popped right in. That was great.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
No relation to a great middle linebacker for the Los
Angeles Rams of the nineteen fifties name less Richter.
Speaker 7 (30:52):
Right, No, Also no relation to the the NHL goalie
Mike Richter, you know New.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
York Rangers, absolutely great goaltender, great goltender. Well, now that
we had all that clariton out of the way, let's
let's talk about being a veterinarian. Veterinarians are very important,
always have been important in our lives when our families
have had various pets, and we want to hear from you.
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There are some Thanksgiving foods that could actually do harm
to pets. And I think we need to let people
know now that Thanksgiving is well, Thanksgiving Eve is a
week away, what not.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
You know, little turkey maybe's okay, but no gravy, I
guess right.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7 (31:37):
It's interesting because you know, in principle, a lot of
the food on the Thanksgiving table is actually okay for dogs. However,
there's some real pitfalls that that people can fall into,
so you know, things to really look out for. There
are a small handful of things that are outright toxic
to dogs, So things like onions, garlic, grapes, raisins, macadamia nuts,
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chocolate for people that for that may be making something
sugar free like a dessert, artificial sweeteners like xylotol or
highly toxic to dogs.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
And when you say toxic, you meaning up to and
including killing the dog.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Oh yes, yeah, Xylotol in particular, you can can absolutely
be life threatening. The other thing is just anything on
the Thanksgiving table that is either highly seasoned or or
just real high and fat. Both of those things can
just cause some real horrible tony upset.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
So everybody who has a dog, it's a part of
the family and there's no meal during the course of
the year which is more family centric than Thanksgiving dinner.
So what And it's kind of tough when you put
down there kibble in a little water or whatever it
is what you give them that it is not harmful,
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not in great quantities obviously, but I'm assuming a piece
of two of turkey without gravy would be okay.
Speaker 7 (33:11):
Everybody wants to include beer pets in the in the holidays,
and I think that that's that's great. So you know,
if you're making Thanksgiving dinner, you can certainly set aside
some baked turkey without skin. You can set aside some
vegetables and you know, you know, steamed or boiled vegetables,
so minus the butter and the salt and the sea
thing and everything, and offer that to your dog. They're
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gonna love it. It's super healthy for them, not going
to cause any problems. And that's you know that that's
the easiest way that you know that. The tricky bit,
of course, is you have to convince your drunk uncle.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Of all the everybody has a drunk uncle.
Speaker 7 (33:51):
Everybody has a drunk uncle. Yeah, so that's the guy
you got to really keep an eye on.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Those are the guys who try to, you know, pour
half a beer into the to the dog's water bowl.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
Yeah, man, that's the guy.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You know this guy.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yep, he's been at my house too, Absolutely, no question
about it. And yeah, I guess you have to sort
of set it parameters and make people know. Depending upon
how really how I should say, I'm gonna say thoughtless.
I'll use a good word, thoughtless, not ignorant, but thoughtless
that people can be because first of all, they're in
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your home and it's.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Your pet, it's not their pets.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Uh, but they somehow want to become best buddies with
this dog that they've just met. Sure, they give they
want to give this anything, you know, peppermint patties. Oh,
absolutely have a cup. No, can't have can't do that.
It's going to cause yeah, cause real problems, you know.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
And it's and it's always it's always with the best
of intentions. And you know, I mean, there's there's always
going to be somebody who can't say no to the
sad puppy dog eyes and whatnot. But you know, it's
it's just like I said, there are there are so
many ways that you can include the furry ones in
in the holiday festivities and still keep them safe.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Ye would. I would. I often have done.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
We do not we celebrate Thanksgiving but at our son
in law's family of their home, and when we used
to have Thanksgiving at our home, uh and I would
always get a piece of you know, uh meet from
the you know, from the turkey breast, and I would
dice it up a little bit and just sprinkle it
into the into the kivel of our.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Dog at the time was of Cavalier King Charles Spaniel.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
And Charlie had a had a great opportunity to sample
the fear, the Thanksgiving fear, and feel as if they
were you know, it was part of the part of
the celebration.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
I think that's the safest way to go anything.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
I totally agree. Yeah, I think it's great. And you know,
the other thing just to kind of keep an eye
out for is sort of the the post Thanksgiving issue
of make sure they don't get in the trash, because boy,
that garbage can sure smells good, and you don't want
your dog getting in the trash and eating like the
turkey bones and all of that business. So you know,
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take the trash out, so that way there's no there's
no temptation.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Tell us about your brand of pet food. It's called
Ultimate Pet Nutrition.
Speaker 7 (36:20):
Sure, yeah, so, I mean Ultimate Pet Nutrition really really
came from, uh, you know, my my desire to to
really try and up level the nutrition of pets that are,
you know, beyond the ones that I'm able to see
in my office every day. So our food through Ultimate
Pet Nutrition, it's called nutri Complete, is a freeze dried
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raw diet. So it's it's it's perfectly balanced. It has
all of the benefits of a fresh food diet, but
because it's freeze dried, you have all of the convenience
of say, like a kibble. You don't, you know, it's
it's shelf stable. You just put it in the bowl,
you add a little water, and you're good to go.
So it's super easy to do. But you're really giving
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your dog just an amazing nutritious meal that that you
just you can't do with just kibble alone.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
No, are you a national brand?
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (37:14):
Absolutely, we're available online. We're available you know, either through
the Ultimate Pet Nutrition website or also on Chewy or
you know, go online. You'll find us. It's not hard
to find, but Ultimate Pet nutrition dot Com.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
Okay, well, the reason I mentioned it and I just
wanted to know that we love animals here on Pets
on Night Side, and we love dogs particularly. I end
my show every night by reminding people that all dogs,
all pets, all all cats, all pets, all go.
Speaker 7 (37:42):
To heaven and amen to that.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
We're associated with the charity of our program is called
the Shadow Fund, and it was founded by a law
school professor at the Massachusetts School of Law many years ago.
And there's there's no no admitted straight of costs or
anything like that, Professor Dian Sullivan, who's a saint in
my mind.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
We raise some money.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
I donate my speaking fees, make donations, and she has
a group of veterinarians who provide at cost service and
we've done a lot of work.
Speaker 3 (38:18):
If you ever get a chance.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
For the fun of it, it's simply called Shadow Fund.
It was named after the first dog that receives some help.
The people have to qualify, you know, they have to
be in need of some assistance. But we've helped. Oh
I shouldn't say we. Professor Sullivan and Shadow Funders help
literally hundreds, if not thousands of people here in New England.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Wow, what a great cause.
Speaker 7 (38:44):
I love that and thank you for doing that. I'll
definitely check that out.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
Well. I just wanted to give you just for the
fun of it.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Google shadow Fund, and there's a shadow fund in California
which is totally unrelated, but shadow fund, n e fronew
England dot org, shadow Fund, and e dot org.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
I don't want you to do anything, not.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Asking to do anything, but I want you to be
aware that there are people all over the country who
do great things, and one of them is Professor Diane Sullivan,
who during the entire fifteen or so years that she's
been running this program, she teaches law. She's also been
dealing with a couple of really tough medical diseases herself,
but she just keeps.
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Ongoing and that's so great.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
She's an incredible human being, and I hope that you
could just Google it and get a little sense of
her and the number of people that she has helped out.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
So I will check that out.
Speaker 7 (39:34):
I appreciate you letting me know.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Veterinarians and special people too. It's tougher to get into
veterinary school that it is to get into medical school
in America these days, because there are fewer veterinary schools
veterinary schools than there are medical schools.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
And I'm sure you read.
Speaker 7 (39:47):
This is a statement. Yeah, I mean it's it's a
numbers game, and yeah it's it's a tough go for sure.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
You bet you well.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Thank you so much, doctor Gary Richter of Ultimate Pet Nutrition.
I assume that's a website people can and find and
check out pretty easily too.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
It absolutely is. I appreciate your time and shout out
to my daughter Abby in Roxbury.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
Oh really, is she going to school up here or
working up here? What you do?
Speaker 5 (40:12):
He is?
Speaker 7 (40:12):
Yeah, she's a senior at Northeastern at great school.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
Great, great, great school.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
My wife has a graduate degree from Northeastern University. Thank
you so much, doctor Richter. Appreciate it very much. Enjoyed
the conversation. Happy Thanksgiving. I call him by Naither.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Thanks my friend, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (40:31):
A buy All right, we got the ten o'clock We
have the nine o'clock hour coming up. We have a
very special guest for you in the nine o'clock hour.
Her name is Gazelle Byrd. She's been the subject of
some controversy recently. She was an appointee by Governor Healey
to the Massachusetts Commission on the Status of Women. She
is a trans woman, and I wanted to give her
(40:53):
an opportunity to speak for herself and talk to you,
and maybe we'll open up some lines of communication. Coming
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