Nick Willis has carved out an impressive career that started on the Olympic stage 17 years ago.
He's New Zealand's only two-time Olympic medallist in the 1500 meters, having won a silver medal in the 2008 Olympics and bronze in 2016.
He joined Piney to discuss his athletic legacy.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talk ZEDB, New.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Zealand and The Home Straight.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Zealand Kiwis Weekend Sports Road to Paris twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Here we're now just over a month away from the
twenty twenty four Olympics. We continue our Road to Paris
feature catching up with some of our great Olympians. Our
guest this afternoon, one of the finest track athletes New
Zealand has ever produced. Nick Willis, competed in the fifteen
hundred meters at five Olympic Games, winning silver at Beijing
(00:50):
in two thousand and eight and bronze at Rio in
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Centravitz, it's the Olympic champion, mcclufe at silver and bronze.
Can you believe it to Nick Willis off New Zealand. Well,
there would have been a lot of people watching in
New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
What a fine career it's been for Nick Willis. His
third consecutive final. It wasn't quite a replica of the
legendary exploits of Lovelock Snell and John Walker forty years ago,
but a silver in Beijing, A little fistpuff there. He
is a masterful tactician and while all around him were
(01:29):
beginning to crumble, Willis kept his composure and he has
a second Olympic medal.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Nick Willis takes the bronze.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
He also won fifteen hundred meters medals and all three
of his Commonwealth Games gold at Melbourne two thousand and six,
bronze at Deli twenty ten, bronze again in Glasgow in
twenty fourteen, and as the New Zealand record holder over
the distance three twenty nine sixty six, which he ran
in Monaco in twenty fifteen. Nick Willis is with us
on Weekend Sport. Nick, when you think back about your
(02:00):
many Olympic Games experiences, what stands out most vividly for you?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
The first thing, Just talking about Olympic Games makes me
a thing about Smell and Walker. To be honest, I
forget that I was there. It feels like such a
long time ago, even it was just most recently. But yeah,
I think probably most of all, it's just all of
the New Zealand team doing a haka when I got
into the village or coming back from a meta all
of that sort of team New Zealand experience around the village.
(02:27):
We really crushed that sort of set up there. We
definitely had the best sort of space in the village
that the New Zealand team had set up. So is
just the real sense of coming home and when I'm
based overseas all the time, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
How much camaraderie is there amongst a New Zealand team
at an Olympic Games. Do you get the opportunity to
mix much with the others or are you really kind
of focused on your own on your own event.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
No, absolutely, especially amongst the different sports. They really did
a good job as setting up down in the lobby
and a sort of a viewing area for everyone to
get together and chair on the different sports. And athletics
is in the second half of the game, so the
first week you get to watch the swimming and other
sports going on. Yeah, no, and always get a chance
(03:13):
to go hang out with some other sports people to
go to other events as well. That was always fun.
Probably my most vivid memory of that was Kirk Penny
taking me under his wing at the Athens Olympics when
I was sort of a young spark, sort of intimidated
by the whole endeavor and he sort of saw that
in me as some nerves as we were sort of
getting around the village and he sort of mentored me
(03:35):
through that experience and we've stayed met since.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Amazing stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Can ask about two thousand and eight silver medalist, you
came across the line third, there was a disqualification which
saw you upgraded to silver. Did that at all take
the gloss off but that you didn't get the silver
on the podium?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
No, it was really very fortunate in many regards because
of that. I'm the only person to ever get to
have a medal presented on their home track when they
didn't win the gold medal and get the hair the
national anthem on their home stadium at Newtown Park. They
put on a special ceremony for the occasion, and so
I got to have the experience in Beijing and bronze
(04:16):
was as good as silver in my eyes at the time,
and then I got to go through that whole moment again,
even sort of more emotionally on my home track in Wellington.
So yeah, I sort of got double the dose, but hey,
I deserved it. When cheats beat you, you get to
be rewarded in those moments as well.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I love that London twenty twelve, you were the flag bearer.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
How do I tell you about these things?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Is there any sort of ceremony around the revealing of
this news that you'll be carrying the flag? Or is
it just a sort of an off end conversation asking
if you'd like to do the job.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
I believe I was in my tackety at an athletics
meeting there, so that would have been February of twenty twelve,
and I got a phone call from the cheff the
mission at the time, and he said, hey, Nick, I
just wanted to see if you'd be willing and able
to be the flag bearer for the event. I think
Dame Valerieville had already turned it down, perhaps my head Drysdale.
(05:11):
So I was just like the third pick because everyone
else is worried about the curse of being the flag bearer,
which turned out to be true, right like I ended
up having my worst games. No, that's coincidental, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
That must have been a proud moment though.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I mean, could you know eight year old Nick Willis
ever have imagined carrying the flag out in front of
a New Zealand team at Olympic Games.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Never in my wildest dreams. I was always felt so
intimidated and all of these sorts of moments. I was
never a sports captain or anything at my school. I
don't think I was ever a captain for any of
my sports teams, let alone being the flag bearer for
the country.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So it was a huge, huge honor in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I want to ask you about that and the bronze
you won there. How do you reflect on twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I think mostly I was just really really proud of
like not giving it up up really after twenty twelve,
I was pretty devastated to get sort of blown away
in the last lap of the final and wondering if
the old legs still had it in them, And I
sort of worked with my coaches and my support network
(06:22):
to try and figure out is there a way to
really just focus on how to be the best version
of myself and not get too distracted by all the
other phenomenal athletes in the world. And I think that's
when I had the best head on my shoulders. I
may not have had quite the best body anymore, but
just the preparations that went into those games sort of
we avoided all of the different platfalls and obstacles along
(06:47):
the way that might have helped me back in other years,
and it just was the perfect preparations. And then on
race day, I was just I was just through a
privilege to be there at thirty three, thirty four years
old against all of these young bucks, and when it
went out being a super slow race, I've always enjoyed
those sort of moments so I don't have to feel
the pain suffering of a race, and I got to
(07:08):
enjoy those first two laps and then it was game on,
and fortunately the gaps opened up and I was able
to capitalize on them.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Did you ever consider a move to the five thousand
meters or was the fifteen hundred always the one that
you were keen to continue competing in.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I always had the allure and the idea of giving
it a go, but each time I tried, it didn't
seem to have the same success that I had envisioned.
I hoped, and one of my last serious races as
an international runner was at the Rohme Diamond League, and
I think I was last by two hundred meters in
the five thousand meter race there, so that was pretty
(07:45):
raiding on the wall that it was never meant to be.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Can you take us inside the I don't know, half
an hour fifteen minutes before an Olympic final?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
What's that like? And how much sort of how much impact.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Does what you do in the last fifteen minutes before
the gun goes actually have on the way that you race.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Yeah, it can be a really intense moment. I think
the whole five days in the Olympic village, around your heat,
your semi, on your final, it's a long period of
time to be really focused on that one soul goal
and endeavor. And so for me personally, it's like, finally
I get a chance to sort of come out of
that cocoon, so to speak, where you're really just trying
(08:28):
to suppress all your emotions and excitement and trying to
have them all be ready to be put into that
one focused effort in the final. So I just get
really excited in the last thirty minutes. I think I've
been really nervous in the sort of four hours to
an hour and a half before the race, But once
I start my warm up and get into the motions,
that's when I've always enjoyed that sort of this is
(08:51):
what I signed up for you know, this is what
you dream as a child. I always wanted to be
the guy that kicked the winning penalty kick Athletic Park
from the twenty two, you know, and so this is
my moment to do that in the slightly less skilled
arena of running. But you know, I always enjoyed the
bigger moments that sort of brought the best out of me.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And did you enjoy being part of a legacy? You
mentioned some of the great names of middle distance running
in New Zealand before Hellberg, Snell, Lovelock Walker. Obviously you're
in that conversation now too for the present day cohort.
Did you enjoy the opportunity to add to that middle
distance legacy?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I was.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
A fan first before I was an athlete at that level,
and I just soaked up everything to do with all
of the history of so along the side of that,
and that's pretty well documented. And one of the most
special moments for me was about a month before, maybe
three weeks before the Rio Games, when they announced the
final selections and my training partners from New Zealand, Julian
(09:57):
Matthews and Hamish Carson got announced to the team and
I had got wind of that a day early, so
I reached out to Snell and Dick Quacks, the late
do it Quas and Rod Dixon and asked if they'd
be willing to sort of be available on a group
call as a surprise to welcome those two young New
Zealand milers into the running fraternity of the great New
(10:19):
Zealand Olympians. And so that was really cool to get
the six of us together on a call for about
an hour and really just sort of like soaken to
that moment.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And Sam Tanner will wear that black singlet in Paris
in a few weeks time.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
How do you assess his ability to do well in Paris?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Sam's doing great. He hasn't had too many opportunities of late,
but we've got so many other New Zealanders doing well
right now as well. With Jordy Beamish, he won the
World Indoor Championships in the fifteen hundred meters. There's something
I was never able to do. And now James Press
him from Wellington, he just broke his record in the
eight hundred meters and on a women's side, with Maya
Ramsden winning the NCAA titled two back to bat years
(11:03):
and a women's fifteen hundred meters, So yeah, really exciting
to be a fan of middle distance running for New
Zealand at the moment.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You've still got that record, mate, three twenty nine sixty six.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
You reckon.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Sam will break that at some stage or somebody will.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I'm sure it won't be too long. But these are
a great crop of kids, so I'll be cheering them
on as well.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And just to finish an Olympic year. Do you you
still take a keen interest in the Olympic Gamesnik? Will
you be taking in some of the action from Paris?
Speaker 6 (11:34):
My family and I will be in Paris for two
weeks before the games, but we won't be there during
the games, but we'll be watching on TV. I think
that's it's you get a better view sometimes from Talley,
to be honest. So yeah, it'll be a bit different,
but I honestly haven't thought about it too much more.
There's a lot going on in my other area of life,
but it should be fun.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, I can hear the other areas of a life.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Clamoring for your retention in the background, Nick, appreciate you
taking the time for a chat and a bit of
a wander down memory lane. Congrats on everything you achieved
and let's hope there's more to come in a black
single for the the latest cohort.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Thanks for your time, mate.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Thanks so much, so look forward to catching up when
I homeless winter for American Winter, selby there for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Look forward to that mate. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Indeed, that is Nick Willis there the latest guest on
our road to Paris. Every Sunday, just after the two
o'clock news, we chat to one of our great Olympians,
and Nick Willis five Olympic Games and two medals in
the fifteen hundred meters certainly falls into that category. Another
guest just after the two o'clock news next Sunday.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talks b weekends from midday, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talk ZEDB, New.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Zealand and The Home Straight.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Zealand Kiwis Weekend Sports Road to Paris twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Here we're now just over a month away from the
twenty twenty four Olympics. We continue our Road to Paris
feature catching up with some of our great Olympians. Our
guest this afternoon, one of the finest track athletes New
Zealand has ever produced. Nick Willis, competed in the fifteen
hundred meters at five Olympic Games, winning silver at Beijing
(00:50):
in two thousand and eight and bronze at Rio in
twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Centravitz, it's the Olympic champion, mcclufe at silver and bronze.
Can you believe it to Nick Willis off New Zealand. Well,
there would have been a lot of people watching in
New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
What a fine career it's been for Nick Willis. His
third consecutive final. It wasn't quite a replica of the
legendary exploits of Lovelock Snell and John Walker forty years ago,
but a silver in Beijing, A little fistpuff there. He
is a masterful tactician and while all around him were
(01:29):
beginning to crumble, Willis kept his composure and he has
a second Olympic medal.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Nick Willis takes the bronze.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
He also won fifteen hundred meters medals and all three
of his Commonwealth Games gold at Melbourne two thousand and six,
bronze at Deli twenty ten, bronze again in Glasgow in
twenty fourteen, and as the New Zealand record holder over
the distance three twenty nine sixty six, which he ran
in Monaco in twenty fifteen. Nick Willis is with us
on Weekend Sport. Nick, when you think back about your
(02:00):
many Olympic Games experiences, what stands out most vividly for you?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
The first thing, Just talking about Olympic Games makes me
a thing about Smell and Walker. To be honest, I
forget that I was there. It feels like such a
long time ago, even it was just most recently. But yeah,
I think probably most of all, it's just all of
the New Zealand team doing a haka when I got
into the village or coming back from a meta all
of that sort of team New Zealand experience around the village.
(02:27):
We really crushed that sort of set up there. We
definitely had the best sort of space in the village
that the New Zealand team had set up. So is
just the real sense of coming home and when I'm
based overseas all the time, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
How much camaraderie is there amongst a New Zealand team
at an Olympic Games. Do you get the opportunity to
mix much with the others or are you really kind
of focused on your own on your own event.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
No, absolutely, especially amongst the different sports. They really did
a good job as setting up down in the lobby
and a sort of a viewing area for everyone to
get together and chair on the different sports. And athletics
is in the second half of the game, so the
first week you get to watch the swimming and other
sports going on. Yeah, no, and always get a chance
(03:13):
to go hang out with some other sports people to
go to other events as well. That was always fun.
Probably my most vivid memory of that was Kirk Penny
taking me under his wing at the Athens Olympics when
I was sort of a young spark, sort of intimidated
by the whole endeavor and he sort of saw that
in me as some nerves as we were sort of
getting around the village and he sort of mentored me
(03:35):
through that experience and we've stayed met since.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Amazing stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Can ask about two thousand and eight silver medalist, you
came across the line third, there was a disqualification which
saw you upgraded to silver. Did that at all take
the gloss off but that you didn't get the silver
on the podium?
Speaker 6 (03:54):
No, it was really very fortunate in many regards because
of that. I'm the only person to ever get to
have a medal presented on their home track when they
didn't win the gold medal and get the hair the
national anthem on their home stadium at Newtown Park. They
put on a special ceremony for the occasion, and so
I got to have the experience in Beijing and bronze
(04:16):
was as good as silver in my eyes at the time,
and then I got to go through that whole moment again,
even sort of more emotionally on my home track in Wellington.
So yeah, I sort of got double the dose, but hey,
I deserved it. When cheats beat you, you get to
be rewarded in those moments as well.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I love that London twenty twelve, you were the flag bearer.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
How do I tell you about these things?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Is there any sort of ceremony around the revealing of
this news that you'll be carrying the flag? Or is
it just a sort of an off end conversation asking
if you'd like to do the job.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
I believe I was in my tackety at an athletics
meeting there, so that would have been February of twenty twelve,
and I got a phone call from the cheff the
mission at the time, and he said, hey, Nick, I
just wanted to see if you'd be willing and able
to be the flag bearer for the event. I think
Dame Valerieville had already turned it down, perhaps my head Drysdale.
(05:11):
So I was just like the third pick because everyone
else is worried about the curse of being the flag bearer,
which turned out to be true, right like I ended
up having my worst games. No, that's coincidental, but yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
That must have been a proud moment though.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I mean, could you know eight year old Nick Willis
ever have imagined carrying the flag out in front of
a New Zealand team at Olympic Games.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Never in my wildest dreams. I was always felt so
intimidated and all of these sorts of moments. I was
never a sports captain or anything at my school. I
don't think I was ever a captain for any of
my sports teams, let alone being the flag bearer for
the country.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
So it was a huge, huge honor in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I want to ask you about that and the bronze
you won there. How do you reflect on twenty sixteen.
Speaker 6 (06:01):
I think mostly I was just really really proud of
like not giving it up up really after twenty twelve,
I was pretty devastated to get sort of blown away
in the last lap of the final and wondering if
the old legs still had it in them, And I
sort of worked with my coaches and my support network
(06:22):
to try and figure out is there a way to
really just focus on how to be the best version
of myself and not get too distracted by all the
other phenomenal athletes in the world. And I think that's
when I had the best head on my shoulders. I
may not have had quite the best body anymore, but
just the preparations that went into those games sort of
we avoided all of the different platfalls and obstacles along
(06:47):
the way that might have helped me back in other years,
and it just was the perfect preparations. And then on
race day, I was just I was just through a
privilege to be there at thirty three, thirty four years
old against all of these young bucks, and when it
went out being a super slow race, I've always enjoyed
those sort of moments so I don't have to feel
the pain suffering of a race, and I got to
(07:08):
enjoy those first two laps and then it was game on,
and fortunately the gaps opened up and I was able
to capitalize on them.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Did you ever consider a move to the five thousand
meters or was the fifteen hundred always the one that
you were keen to continue competing in.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I always had the allure and the idea of giving
it a go, but each time I tried, it didn't
seem to have the same success that I had envisioned.
I hoped, and one of my last serious races as
an international runner was at the Rohme Diamond League, and
I think I was last by two hundred meters in
the five thousand meter race there, so that was pretty
(07:45):
raiding on the wall that it was never meant to be.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Can you take us inside the I don't know, half
an hour fifteen minutes before an Olympic final?
Speaker 2 (07:56):
What's that like? And how much sort of how much impact.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Does what you do in the last fifteen minutes before
the gun goes actually have on the way that you race.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Yeah, it can be a really intense moment. I think
the whole five days in the Olympic village, around your heat,
your semi, on your final, it's a long period of
time to be really focused on that one soul goal
and endeavor. And so for me personally, it's like, finally
I get a chance to sort of come out of
that cocoon, so to speak, where you're really just trying
(08:28):
to suppress all your emotions and excitement and trying to
have them all be ready to be put into that
one focused effort in the final. So I just get
really excited in the last thirty minutes. I think I've
been really nervous in the sort of four hours to
an hour and a half before the race, But once
I start my warm up and get into the motions,
that's when I've always enjoyed that sort of this is
(08:51):
what I signed up for you know, this is what
you dream as a child. I always wanted to be
the guy that kicked the winning penalty kick Athletic Park
from the twenty two, you know, and so this is
my moment to do that in the slightly less skilled
arena of running. But you know, I always enjoyed the
bigger moments that sort of brought the best out of me.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
And did you enjoy being part of a legacy? You
mentioned some of the great names of middle distance running
in New Zealand before Hellberg, Snell, Lovelock Walker. Obviously you're
in that conversation now too for the present day cohort.
Did you enjoy the opportunity to add to that middle
distance legacy?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I was.
Speaker 6 (09:35):
A fan first before I was an athlete at that level,
and I just soaked up everything to do with all
of the history of so along the side of that,
and that's pretty well documented. And one of the most
special moments for me was about a month before, maybe
three weeks before the Rio Games, when they announced the
final selections and my training partners from New Zealand, Julian
(09:57):
Matthews and Hamish Carson got announced to the team and
I had got wind of that a day early, so
I reached out to Snell and Dick Quacks, the late
do it Quas and Rod Dixon and asked if they'd
be willing to sort of be available on a group
call as a surprise to welcome those two young New
Zealand milers into the running fraternity of the great New
(10:19):
Zealand Olympians. And so that was really cool to get
the six of us together on a call for about
an hour and really just sort of like soaken to
that moment.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And Sam Tanner will wear that black singlet in Paris
in a few weeks time.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
How do you assess his ability to do well in Paris?
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Sam's doing great. He hasn't had too many opportunities of late,
but we've got so many other New Zealanders doing well
right now as well. With Jordy Beamish, he won the
World Indoor Championships in the fifteen hundred meters. There's something
I was never able to do. And now James Press
him from Wellington, he just broke his record in the
eight hundred meters and on a women's side, with Maya
Ramsden winning the NCAA titled two back to bat years
(11:03):
and a women's fifteen hundred meters, So yeah, really exciting
to be a fan of middle distance running for New
Zealand at the moment.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
You've still got that record, mate, three twenty nine sixty six.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
You reckon.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Sam will break that at some stage or somebody will.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
I'm sure it won't be too long. But these are
a great crop of kids, so I'll be cheering them
on as well.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
And just to finish an Olympic year. Do you you
still take a keen interest in the Olympic Gamesnik? Will
you be taking in some of the action from Paris?
Speaker 6 (11:34):
My family and I will be in Paris for two
weeks before the games, but we won't be there during
the games, but we'll be watching on TV. I think
that's it's you get a better view sometimes from Talley,
to be honest. So yeah, it'll be a bit different,
but I honestly haven't thought about it too much more.
There's a lot going on in my other area of life,
but it should be fun.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, I can hear the other areas of a life.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Clamoring for your retention in the background, Nick, appreciate you
taking the time for a chat and a bit of
a wander down memory lane. Congrats on everything you achieved
and let's hope there's more to come in a black
single for the the latest cohort.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Thanks for your time, mate.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
Thanks so much, so look forward to catching up when
I homeless winter for American Winter, selby there for Christmas.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Look forward to that mate. Thanks.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Indeed, that is Nick Willis there the latest guest on
our road to Paris. Every Sunday, just after the two
o'clock news, we chat to one of our great Olympians,
and Nick Willis five Olympic Games and two medals in
the fifteen hundred meters certainly falls into that category. Another
guest just after the two o'clock news next Sunday.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talks b weekends from midday, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!