This week, James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to discuss the Super Rugby Final, the Warriors' loss, England's performance in the Euros and the upcoming All Blacks squad announcement.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News TALKSB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Seems almost cruel to get you on, James mcconey after
last night, Are you okay?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
My brother alive? It's been tough? Any shot the music?
Please come on, please show some respect?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That is that is quite the burn. That is quite
the burn. Isn't it all right?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Andy? You've had your fun there? It has been tough.
And look, even if I wanted to put my Chiefs
jerseys on a bonfire last night, I couldn't because of
the persistent rain that cost us the game. As soon
as it rained, Pineer, it was over. But full credit,
as they say to vn Cottra Patrick twopul or two
in the Blues just so dominant. What a performance it was.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It was a terrific Grand Final performance from the Blues.
I don't want to gloss over or anything like that,
but do you think there was some last night who
really stuck their hand up for all Black selection if
they hadn't already.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Look, I'm worried that it's maybe cost some of my guys.
Let's just say the Chiefs their selection. I will just
before we move on to selection, I just want to
say Patrick two Pulo two was immense, and I agree
with your caller Chris about a kidder Jouanni. He was
almost made of a match for me as well. I
think it went to Patrick in the end. But yes,
(01:37):
and also a couple of unsung heroes. Marcel Lenetta, you know,
first season as a starting prop and he was this
incredible hustle, huge engine and aj Lamb filling it at
second five. He's a winger and ye played so well
at the back end of the season. But yes, selections, Piney,
who is your let's just say the interesting selection, who
(01:58):
is your third hooker?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And I'll respond mine is Ricky ric Attelli.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yes, I think I agree Ricky Rhino is going to
get his chance an undersized hook about what a player,
big heart, gutsy, tough, just what Razor likes, accurate thrower.
So maybe George Bell, who I thought might be getting
the nod out of the Crusaders. I think Ricky could
(02:27):
get his chance there, although because he's part Italian, I'd
almost say just go and play one hundred tests for Italy.
You know there's a number one.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
The only other guy, the only other guy they could
look at is Kurt Eklund, but he's been number two
to Ricketelly for the Blues, so yeah, I kind of
feel you. It's it's Taylor Almore and Rickettelly. I expect
this is the three hookers. Who do you think? Do
you think that in terms of the outside backs, where
does Stephen Petter Fetter fit into this whole thing?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
For you?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Is he an outside back? Is your first five? What
is he?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I think Peter Fetter has to be picked because you've
got Mackenzie and Bowden as the first five and this,
you know, I think goalkicking wise, you've got Jordie as
you know him, and McKenzie is maybe your main goalkickers,
but that means you still need another goalkicker and it's
either Bowden or Stephen pt Pedofetter, and I mean either all.
(03:22):
But I think Peter Fetter will get in for those
skills and be able to cover their position. And I
think his versatility may just cost Ruben Love, who's been incredible.
But I think Ruben Love is in a maybe even
a four way battle for that other outside back. You know,
is it Josh Morby or Jacob that too? Mike Tevukenakkins.
(03:44):
Could we get an absolute bolter like shayfe Hackey. You know,
this is the thing about Razor is he will want
people who are tough, you can take the high ball,
who can handle England. And maybe he's just going to
come up with something out of the box there.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And I'm not saying that he will be in the team.
But Harry Plummer he started just two games it first
five for the Blues last year. He's basically run the
cutter for them for the last three months. Stephen Petefener,
who was supposed to be first five has been pushed
back to fullback. I mean, I'd like to say I
don't think Harry Plumber is going to be in this
all black squad, but what an influence on the Blues.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, if Boden wasn't coming back, I think Harry would
be in the squad. That's that's how good he's been.
So Boden returning from Japan is really cutting plumbers lunch there.
But yeah, I agree, I think Plumber was exceptionally again
last night. And also, you know one thing I should
say about rugby journalist is they always go, oh, you
(04:42):
need a world class first five to win Super Rugby
and then in the same breath. They say, well you can't.
The game's one up front. Make your mind up, rugby journalists.
But obviously last night the game was run up front.
But the first five at the cutter running the cutter
was not an international. It was humble Harry Plumber, a
kid from Auckland. He's just come through and plugged away
(05:04):
for years in that team and as as a bit part,
you know, as an understudy. So I think there was
outstanding one for the underdogs last night.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Indeed, the entree to the rugby wasn't that palatable, was it.
I'm not sure whether you caught much of the Warriors game.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I know, I was really concerned for Mike Hosking
on Kate Hawksby's social I just was worried about him,
and yeah, he was kind of going through all the
stages of grief over eighty minutes, it seemed. And that
kind of defeat is a total Steve Hanson, flush the
dunny and move on. My moment. You can't, you can't
(05:42):
really dwell on that. This is the one thing I
thought was lacking was just that confidence to regroup. And
I thought, well, you've got enough experienced players out there,
so that would be the big headache for Andrew Webster
is does he persist with these guys, give him another chance,
or does he go with that young group that did
(06:04):
so well against pen Rethicule of weeks ago. This is
that's going to be watched the Space just including another
watch the Space selection. Do you go with Peter Larkeye
probably getting the backup seven spot or do you say
Braden you're saying or Wallace a Titi comes in to
(06:25):
provide some you know, some ball carrying expertise. Pining is, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Haven't got any of that. Of my lucies. I've got
Blackhead of female Jacobs and papal Savia and Sotutu.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Crowded field, right, it's a crowded field.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's a crowded Maybe watch the what do you call
it training? The way that raising sneaks in some bolts,
because even the battle between Quartiez, Latima and Fatava I
think is tight, although I think Latima will get the
nod and Nigel Hotham's seat of breathing down her neck
in the next couple of seasons. But because they're playing Inland,
(07:06):
I think it's going to be more conservative. If they're
playing a different nation. If it was Wales or Scotland
or just you know, anyone else coming south this winter,
they are quite different here and Harvey Leap. I would
like to actually see Billy Proctor elite frog there or
(07:26):
maybe even Quinti Pie come back and into the mix,
because I think that Proctor has been incredible this entire season.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, he's been very good. Hey, just a quick word
on the Euros. Are England are They were favorites going
into the tournament by most bookies estimation? Are England just
not very good?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah? I'm not sure what they are. They're confusing, and
I think Gareth Southgate, now that he's lost the waistcoat,
just hasn't got his mojo. He's just what was he
wearing it? I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I haven't seen No, he's not No, I haven't seen them.
Haven't seen the waistcoat.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, big issue. But they've got three really good attackers
and Harry Kane, Quay Osaka and Phil Foden and they're
not quite sure what to do with them and they're
not yelling at all. They left out Marcus Rashford, he
didn't ever make the squad, so right now England is
sort of struggling for chemistry really and also leaning on
(08:20):
even though their best player, Dude Bellingham, has just won
the UOCA Champions League. He is twenty twenty one years old.
It's crazy expecting him to provide that or run the
cut for them. So look, I think they he might
actually have to try and put in some of those
(08:42):
players that he never thought were going to play because
they just look all at Sea and they don't have
any cutting edge at the morning.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No good on you, James Grade to chat as always,
James mcconny, big part of our Sunday six and a
half to two news talks.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
HEADB for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen
live to News Talks EDB weekends from midday. Follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News TALKSB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Seems almost cruel to get you on, James mcconey after
last night, Are you okay?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
My brother alive? It's been tough? Any shot the music?
Please come on, please show some respect?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
That is that is quite the burn. That is quite
the burn. Isn't it all right?
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Andy? You've had your fun there? It has been tough.
And look, even if I wanted to put my Chiefs
jerseys on a bonfire last night, I couldn't because of
the persistent rain that cost us the game. As soon
as it rained, Pineer, it was over. But full credit,
as they say to vn Cottra Patrick twopul or two
in the Blues just so dominant. What a performance it was.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
It was a terrific Grand Final performance from the Blues.
I don't want to gloss over or anything like that,
but do you think there was some last night who
really stuck their hand up for all Black selection if
they hadn't already.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Look, I'm worried that it's maybe cost some of my guys.
Let's just say the Chiefs their selection. I will just
before we move on to selection, I just want to
say Patrick two Pulo two was immense, and I agree
with your caller Chris about a kidder Jouanni. He was
almost made of a match for me as well. I
think it went to Patrick in the end. But yes,
(01:37):
and also a couple of unsung heroes. Marcel Lenetta, you know,
first season as a starting prop and he was this
incredible hustle, huge engine and aj Lamb filling it at
second five. He's a winger and ye played so well
at the back end of the season. But yes, selections, Piney,
who is your let's just say the interesting selection, who
(01:58):
is your third hooker?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And I'll respond mine is Ricky ric Attelli.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yes, I think I agree Ricky Rhino is going to
get his chance an undersized hook about what a player,
big heart, gutsy, tough, just what Razor likes, accurate thrower.
So maybe George Bell, who I thought might be getting
the nod out of the Crusaders. I think Ricky could
(02:27):
get his chance there, although because he's part Italian, I'd
almost say just go and play one hundred tests for Italy.
You know there's a number one.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
The only other guy, the only other guy they could
look at is Kurt Eklund, but he's been number two
to Ricketelly for the Blues, so yeah, I kind of
feel you. It's it's Taylor Almore and Rickettelly. I expect
this is the three hookers. Who do you think? Do
you think that in terms of the outside backs, where
does Stephen Petter Fetter fit into this whole thing?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
For you?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Is he an outside back? Is your first five? What
is he?
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I think Peter Fetter has to be picked because you've
got Mackenzie and Bowden as the first five and this,
you know, I think goalkicking wise, you've got Jordie as
you know him, and McKenzie is maybe your main goalkickers,
but that means you still need another goalkicker and it's
either Bowden or Stephen pt Pedofetter, and I mean either all.
(03:22):
But I think Peter Fetter will get in for those
skills and be able to cover their position. And I
think his versatility may just cost Ruben Love, who's been incredible.
But I think Ruben Love is in a maybe even
a four way battle for that other outside back. You know,
is it Josh Morby or Jacob that too? Mike Tevukenakkins.
(03:44):
Could we get an absolute bolter like shayfe Hackey. You know,
this is the thing about Razor is he will want
people who are tough, you can take the high ball,
who can handle England. And maybe he's just going to
come up with something out of the box there.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And I'm not saying that he will be in the team.
But Harry Plummer he started just two games it first
five for the Blues last year. He's basically run the
cutter for them for the last three months. Stephen Petefener,
who was supposed to be first five has been pushed
back to fullback. I mean, I'd like to say I
don't think Harry Plumber is going to be in this
all black squad, but what an influence on the Blues.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Well, if Boden wasn't coming back, I think Harry would
be in the squad. That's that's how good he's been.
So Boden returning from Japan is really cutting plumbers lunch there.
But yeah, I agree, I think Plumber was exceptionally again
last night. And also, you know one thing I should
say about rugby journalist is they always go, oh, you
(04:42):
need a world class first five to win Super Rugby
and then in the same breath. They say, well you can't.
The game's one up front. Make your mind up, rugby journalists.
But obviously last night the game was run up front.
But the first five at the cutter running the cutter
was not an international. It was humble Harry Plumber, a
kid from Auckland. He's just come through and plugged away
(05:04):
for years in that team and as as a bit part,
you know, as an understudy. So I think there was
outstanding one for the underdogs last night.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Indeed, the entree to the rugby wasn't that palatable, was it.
I'm not sure whether you caught much of the Warriors game.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, I know, I was really concerned for Mike Hosking
on Kate Hawksby's social I just was worried about him,
and yeah, he was kind of going through all the
stages of grief over eighty minutes, it seemed. And that
kind of defeat is a total Steve Hanson, flush the
dunny and move on. My moment. You can't, you can't
(05:42):
really dwell on that. This is the one thing I
thought was lacking was just that confidence to regroup. And
I thought, well, you've got enough experienced players out there,
so that would be the big headache for Andrew Webster
is does he persist with these guys, give him another chance,
or does he go with that young group that did
(06:04):
so well against pen Rethicule of weeks ago. This is
that's going to be watched the Space just including another
watch the Space selection. Do you go with Peter Larkeye
probably getting the backup seven spot or do you say
Braden you're saying or Wallace a Titi comes in to
(06:25):
provide some you know, some ball carrying expertise. Pining is, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Haven't got any of that. Of my lucies. I've got
Blackhead of female Jacobs and papal Savia and Sotutu.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Crowded field, right, it's a crowded field.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
It's a crowded Maybe watch the what do you call
it training? The way that raising sneaks in some bolts,
because even the battle between Quartiez, Latima and Fatava I
think is tight, although I think Latima will get the
nod and Nigel Hotham's seat of breathing down her neck
in the next couple of seasons. But because they're playing Inland,
(07:06):
I think it's going to be more conservative. If they're
playing a different nation. If it was Wales or Scotland
or just you know, anyone else coming south this winter,
they are quite different here and Harvey Leap. I would
like to actually see Billy Proctor elite frog there or
(07:26):
maybe even Quinti Pie come back and into the mix,
because I think that Proctor has been incredible this entire season.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Yeah, he's been very good. Hey, just a quick word
on the Euros. Are England are They were favorites going
into the tournament by most bookies estimation? Are England just
not very good?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah? I'm not sure what they are. They're confusing, and
I think Gareth Southgate, now that he's lost the waistcoat,
just hasn't got his mojo. He's just what was he
wearing it? I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
I haven't seen No, he's not No, I haven't seen them.
Haven't seen the waistcoat.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Yeah, big issue. But they've got three really good attackers
and Harry Kane, Quay Osaka and Phil Foden and they're
not quite sure what to do with them and they're
not yelling at all. They left out Marcus Rashford, he
didn't ever make the squad, so right now England is
sort of struggling for chemistry really and also leaning on
(08:20):
even though their best player, Dude Bellingham, has just won
the UOCA Champions League. He is twenty twenty one years old.
It's crazy expecting him to provide that or run the
cut for them. So look, I think they he might
actually have to try and put in some of those
(08:42):
players that he never thought were going to play because
they just look all at Sea and they don't have
any cutting edge at the morning.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No good on you, James Grade to chat as always,
James mcconny, big part of our Sunday six and a
half to two news talks.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
HEADB for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen
live to News Talks EDB weekends from midday. Follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
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