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June 29, 2024 • 12 mins

One All Whites striker isn't expecting today's OFC Nations Cup decider against Vanuatu to be a walk in the park.

New Zealand crushed the hosts 4-nil when the two sides met in the group stage more than a week ago.

Despite this, Ben Waine joined Piney to outline the challenges ahead of their 4pm kickoff.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
One on the Dot.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
The All Whites are into the OFC Nations Cup Final.
They'll play hosts Vanuatu and Port Villa four o'clock this afternoon.
New Zealand Timers kickoff. Striker Ben Wayne is New Zealand's
top scorer at the tournament with four Kacachi Wonderful has
broken clear since the cross New Zealand four.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Nil Ben Wain second brace for him in this tournament,
Ben Way. Ben Waine's with us out of Vanawa too.
Thanks for your time, Ben.

Speaker 3 (00:55):
It all seems to have gone to plan really, three
nil and four nil wins and Paul Player five nil
win in the semi final, comfortably into the finals. So
how do you assess the way the team's been playing
tournament so far?

Speaker 4 (01:08):
I think the best way to describe would be professional.
It's never easy to come over here. I mean I
think probably teams up so people do assume that it's
going to be a walk in the park, but it
is never the case that, you know, the Island teams
put up a really good fight and they have been
tough games. I think we've just been We've been clinical
and like I said, professional to get the job done.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
So that's been really really important.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
New Zealand's taking the lead inside ten minutes in each
of the three games. How important has that been to
kind of settle any possible nerves and to get off
to a good positive start.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, I think it is really important. I mean whether
that happens in the final or not, I don't know,
but I don't think it matters. We're a good enough
team to deal with that without scoring in the first
ten minutes. But to do that is I think it
just lets the team get into a rhythm early on.
And you might, yeah, I might say it takes a
little bit of away off everyone's shoulders, but I mean

(02:05):
to still put three four five aways. I think it's
impressive from a team's point of view.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
What's it like in terms of conditions being hot and
what are the pitch looks like con TV? But it's
always hard to tell what are conditions.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Like very hot and very humored. To be fair against
the Heiti there's a bit of rain and that was
just blessing in disguise. That was helped a lot. The pictures. Okay,
it's a little bit bobby, but better than I thought
it would be. But I mean, by the end of

(02:39):
the tournament, I know there's a game before us, so
it could be a little bit a little bit questionable,
but that's something we just deal with and there won't
be a problem.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Personally for you.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
You're a striker, your currency or you know, big party
currency as goals. How pleasing has it been for you
to get four of them in your two games at
the tournament so far?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Oh, it's been amazing. I've honestly in general just missed
playing for New Zealand. It was really really nice to
have the opportunity to come out here and play for
New Zealand, but to score for your country. You know,
it's been a while for me, so I've kind of
forgotten that feeling. And it's some feeling, but like I said,
at the end of the days, it's just good that
we're in the final. That's what we're here to do.

(03:18):
When a trophy and you know, let's hope we can
do that.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
Tell us about coming together as a team. You all
know each other obviously, but you don't spend a heck
of a lot of time together in a footballing sense,
and you have a pretty limited build up to tournaments
like this. How quickly are you able to re establish
connections with one another in a footballing sense.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
It's pretty easy with boys i've played with, you know,
the well into Phoenix, because it's it's really easy to
just carry on and get.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
Back to playing with them.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
But I mean it's awesome to meet new people as
well here and it takes a training or two or
a few meetings. I mean, the meetings that we have
here I think are really important to help us reconnect
with people that you know, played with before, but to
connect with new people as well. So I think that
has just been really, really helpful. And the teams are,

(04:05):
you know, really together at the moment, so that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
So Van to are your opponents in the in the final?
Did you did you half expect fee G to come
through from the other semi?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Honestly, I didn't know what to expect from that game.
I was really interested. I thought it was going to
be a tight game, and that's what it turned out
to be. But I mean Vanuatu in the final against
US will be awesome. There's going to be a I
can assume there's going to be a big crowd and
the atmosphere is going to be good. So I'm really
looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Obviously, second game against them, How do you put any
possibility of complacency to one side having already beaten them
comfortably four Nila and Paul play.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Yeah, I mean it's the same same in any other tournament.
Just I mean you can take confidence from that, don't
get me wrong. But at the end of the day,
when that whistle goes, it's it's knockout football. It's a
final game like anything can happen. So I don't think
there'll be any complacency at all from from what I've
seen within this group and the coaching stuff.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
Be right right on us and know we'll be ready
to go.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
As you're together in a in a situation like this,
and as I said before, it you don't get together
that often, so presumably you discuss a wide range of
things when you're together. Are you talking about the World
Cup cycle that is ahead and your possible path to
the twenty twenty six World Cup.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
I think it would be silly not to say that
that is major goal to get to a World Cup.
And I know that's in the future and we still
need to we still need to qualify for that, and
for now we're focused on winning this trophy.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
But yeah, that's one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (05:42):
There's a there's definitely a plan in place with that
being the major target. But to get there, you've got to,
you know, take it step by step, and one of
these steps is to win this tournament.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Is there an internal optimism that you know that that
you can do that, that you can qualify for that
World Cup in a couple.

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Of years, one hundred percent. One hundred percent. No, I
think everyone in the room believes that we can do it.
But it's never it's never as easy as just saying it,
you know. But I think that's the really important part
of all of this planning and these these games that
we're taking part and now this tournament that we're playing,
and it's all part of it, and it's all going
to prepare everyone to try and be in the best

(06:22):
place we can be.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
You know, when that time comes, and.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Again, I know we're only focusing on this tournament, but
the Olympics are coming up and less of the month,
less than a month. Rather, the squad's named on Tuesday.
I don't think it's any secret to anybody that you'll
be in that squad. Are you looking forward to the
possibility of playing an Olympic Games in Paris?

Speaker 4 (06:43):
I mean, to be able to go to Paris and
play in my second Olympics would be amazing and that's
what I'm striving to do, and hopefully, like you said,
when that team gets announced, hopefully I'm on that list.
I think my first one that was a bit of
a shame because Tokyo, you know, there's COVID and whatnot.
I didn't feel like a proper Olympics and I think
we still did really well as the team. But if

(07:05):
I get the chance to go again, I think, you know,
I really really take him the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Look forward to that squad being announced on Tuesday. Plumouthard
Goals your club now, of course you've been there a
season and a half. How do you assue your football
growth being in your time in the UK?

Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, no, I've loved it. Don't get me wrong, it's
been a it's been a challenge. You know, you move
away from home and then the football level. I mean
I was, I was in League One for six months
and then all of a sudden, I'm playing in the Championship.
So you know, there was two massive step ups that
I had to had to adjust to, and if I'm
being honest, it probably took me at least at least

(07:42):
a year of that time I've been away to you know, say, actually,
i feel like I'm at the level where I'm I'm
training well and I'm playing well. So no, I'm just
excited to see what happens next. And you know, I'll
go back in a few five or six days back
to Plymouth and and start pre season all over again.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
And he got a new boss, Wayne Rooney. How much
you're looking forward to coming under his God, it's when
you get back to the UK. One of England's greatest
ever strikers.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
Yeah, I couldn't believe it, and I mean, yeah, I
just I'm just looking forward to being able to pick
his brain, to be honest. I mean, well, I think
he's Main United's all time top goal scorer or something
like that, and he's.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
Definitely high up on the England ranks.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
He might just be behind Harry Kane now, but just
the knowledge that he has in the game, and yeah,
the way he played in his career, I'm really looking
forward to. I don't really know what to say. I'm
still a bit shocked, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, I'm sure it'll be something that as a fellow striker,
will be extremely helpful to you. When you think about
the last you know, eighteen months or or whatever it's
been since you left Wellington for you, you know, for
the next chapters in your career. How different a player
do you perceive yourself to be now or are you
just doing certain things better? How do you assess the

(08:58):
way you are now compared to then.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
I definitely think there's been a massive, like growing period
for me in terms of mentality and probably how the
game's played over here.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
It's different.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
There's a higher level intensity, you know, there's more physicality.
It takes time to adjust and I think even to
adjusting when I first signed in the A League, it
took me a year to you know.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Get right to the level.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
So for me, I'm really happy with where I am
at now. Mentally, I'm definitely become stronger when you have
to look after yourself and all of that, you know,
deal with the ups and downs and there's so many
games and whatnot. It's It's definitely helped me a lot,
and I think I'm in a good place. So no,
I mean, I think I've improved as a player one

(09:44):
hundred percent, and the mental aspects of the game as well,
I've deffinitely, I've definitely matured a bit.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
I think.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Did you get the chance to get home in between
the end of the season and hitting off to the
Nation's Cup?

Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yeah? I did.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Me and my girlfriend came back for three weeks and
surprise mum and dad on the doorsteps. So it was awesome,
really nice to come back. And I definitely missed in
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Amazing. Heix your Phoenix boys did? Okay? Did you get
manage to keep tabs on the last day league season? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (10:14):
So I definitely watched. I mean some of the games
were at shocking times as three in the morning for me.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Yeah, but I mean there was there was four or
five that were at you know, seven am a am.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
And I managed to watch them.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
And to see how well they had done was awesome
and I was to be honest, I was gutted that
the semi finals so early. I was planning on being
back and being back to watch them live, but I
managed to watch on my phone and just a real
shame that, you know, they didn't make it to the final,
but it was just awesome to see.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Well.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Speaking of finals, you've got one to look forward to
in the OFC Nations Cup. All the best against against
Vanuatu in the final. Ben, look forward to to seeing
if Paris is your next destination on how you go
under Wayne Rooney's guidance in the in the month ahead.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Thanks for taking the time for a chat mate.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Oh cheers, pony, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Now, thanks for joining us, Ben, Ben Wayne.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
There.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, Wayne Rooney's this new boss. It's there. I'm not
have mentioned this a couple of weeks ago. Wayne Rooney.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
It doesn't have a great track record as a manager,
it would be fair to say, but one of the
all time greats of English football and one of the
old time great strikers of modern times. So for Ben Wayne,
you know, a striker still in many ways learning his
trade to come under the guidance of Wayne Rooney. How
good is that going to be for him? So I'll

(11:27):
play this afternoon back to the UKRS. You heard Ben
say four preseason training. But I think we can all assume,
without fear of contradiction, that he'll be in the Olympic squad.
That's a squad of under twenty three players. Of course,
with three overage players. Ben Wayne is still under twenty three,
so definitely qualifies for that squad named on Tuesday. As
I understand it, the second of July is that Tuesday, Yeah,

(11:50):
that's when they'll announce the squad, the eighteen strong squad
for both the New Zealand men's team and the Football Ferns.
That's just a normal senior side, So both of those
teams named on Tuesday. On text from Steve no from
James great interview with Hayden. We take special interest in
this fine young man due to his connection to or Corney,

(12:11):
where we live. I knew his dad, Andrew, and I
know he would be very, very proud of his son,
seending this message from the house that Andrew Wild grew
up in, which we now own and live in. Thanks James,
brilliant stuff. Yeah, Hayden Wild.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, terrific, terrific, terrific. Keiwek great human being, Looking forward
to seeing how he goes in Paris.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
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