Full Show Podcast: 20 July 2024

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It is a slightly shorter show than usual, but in
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at two thirty we're going to take you to snap

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Dragon Stadium in San Diego. What a name for Full
commentary of the All Blacks third Test of the Year
Fiji are the opponents. Elliott Smith and former All Black
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Keen for your thoughts on this one as well. What
are you expecting this afternoon and our Fiji a chance
of beating the All Blacks for the first time ever
or in fact getting within thirty points, which they haven't
done in the seven previous official Test matches between these two. Well,
I get to the All Blacks after one first up
today though the Warriors.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
You wouldn't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
You would not believe it.

Speaker 6 (01:58):
Three miss kicks and it's the Raiders who somehow stayed ahead.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
And stayed ahead at the final whistle last night a
twenty eighteen defeat for the Warriors by the Raiders and
Canberra the club's top eight hopes now starting to Tita
top rugby leg Joerno Buzz Rothfield with us very surely
we'll take your calls to Warriors fans unpicked this one
for us and where are we now in terms of
the top eight? Are the metters around today, two rounds

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into the Open Championship at Royal Troon in Scotland. Keep
It Golfers Ryan Fox and Daniel Hillyer will play the weekend.
Shane Lowry has a two shot lead. We'll wrap that
with Scott Taylor. Out of talkSPORT, Adam Peacock from Australia,
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They call oh eight hundred and eighty eight eighty.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
In the one play left for the Warriors, It's just
that sort of season for them. Another one goes astray
for the Warriors and the Camera Raiders have snapped a
losing street which stretch the rail their season.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
It's not Joi, it's relief.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
The Camera Raiders scored one less try but have held
on you never hit it in this game and they
have beat the Warriors twenty eight points to eighteen.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Yeah, the Warrior's path to the NERL playoffs has become
even tougher. Twenty eighteen, they lost to the Raiders in
the Australian capital last night. They called their way back
from an early fourteen NYEL deficit, but Warriors five to eighth.
Chanelle Harris Tavita missed a game tying conversion from almost
in front with seven minutes to go. The Warriors actually
outscored the Raiders four tries to three, but just one

(03:57):
of those tries was converted by Adam Pompey before he
left the game with a knee injury, and Janelle Harris
Tavita took over the kicking and couldn't find them with
any of his three conversion attempts. The result leaves the
Warriors twelfth on the ladder, six more matches to come
this weekend, seven rounds to play. Let's bring in hugely respected,

(04:18):
vastly experienced rugby league journo Phil buzz Rothfield Phil. Is
it too simple to say better goalkicking would have won
the Warriors that game?

Speaker 5 (04:28):
Look, the scoreboard showed that didn't it. You look the
statistics share they went. He just didn't land that sit
in near the end or any of the other opportunities
that he had. And goal kicking in the competition as
tight as this one is gold it's so crucial. And
no you've got the non goal kick. You scored more

(04:50):
Trie than the Raiders, so you know you're now stuck
on nineteen points. And I think SADS is to say,
I think the Warriors can start preparing for mad Monday
because I can't see them being involved in Cornell's football
this year.

Speaker 7 (05:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Look, I think the rugby league public around New Zealand
are probably nodding their heads in agreement. But what else
could the Warriors have done Bill last night apart from
lading their shots on goal?

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Oh well, they could have turned up at the start
of the game. You know, you don't give any side
in this competition even look, Cambra's the middle of the
road side, they're not a lowly side, but you can't
give fourteen points start. Look, I know they've got to
come back in them and they've done it before this year,
but the cold, freezing night and the national capital there,

(05:40):
they just gave up gave away too much start, they
lacked discipline early and yeah, sorry, note, I've just got
to move my dog out of this route because he's
in the park. But they they just didn't turn up early,
and it's very, very difficult to come back against this

(06:00):
Cambra side that was as desperate as the Warriors to
get the two points to keep their season alive.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Turning up early, Mitch Barnet's it afterwards, we're just finding
ways to hurt ourselves. How frustrating must that be for
Andrew Webster and the coaching staff.

Speaker 5 (06:15):
Oh well, it's hard to believe, you know, Andrew Webster.
You don't go from a Galliam coach for there or
an ordinary coach. So look, he knows what he's doing.
But you know, you've got injuries. Johnson, Sean Johnson, Tara Harris,
Luke Metcalf goes at rock o'deria out and you know,
but every side's got injuries. And you had a couple

(06:36):
there in Origin, which hasn't helped, which is unusual for
the Warriors to had two State of Origin players. They're
phenomenal athletes, these guys. To back up from that colossal
game at sun Court the other night, Look, I don't
know where you go from here, and you know the
reasons for the fact that it just hasn't worked out

(06:58):
as you know, like you'd hoped. You know, I thought
you'd be a stronger outfit this year and seriously challenged
for the title. But it just and you know, hasn't
worked out. You look at your draw and the run home.
You've got West Tiger's Power Dolphins, Manly Bulldog Sharks. You know,
you win all those games, you'll you'll make it. But

(07:20):
I can't see you beating Manly away or the Sharks away,
and you know that the Bulldogs are very hard to
beat these days. Look, I just think it's too tough
for assignment from here.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
So we all thought exactly what you said before, that
this would be a team that would not only make
the eight. But we were looking at you know, is
this a top four side? Is this a team that
could finally, you know, really challenge for an NRL premiership
or a championship? Have you seen this sort of thing
happen before? The teams that are that are highly talented
at the start of a season just somehow find a
way to you know, to disappoint their fans.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Well, yeah, it does happen. You look at the paramatter rails,
you know they I know they got rid of Brad
Arthur not so long ago, but they started off. Most
people would have had them in the top aid at
the beginning of the year. But you know, these are
years you just have the losses. I can't explain how

(08:15):
can you get rolled sixty six six against the Titans,
you know, and I think the week after around that
time they storm put thirty eight points on them. So
that's more than that. That's an average of fifty points
in two games in a row. And that's just not
the Warriors football and the metal and the you know,

(08:38):
the grit that this football side showed last year. Look,
I'm not blamed because I thought Adam Foranuah Blake went
all right, but their decline appears to have coincided, you know,
with problems in the sheds with him his decision to
walk out in the last year of his contract. I

(09:01):
don't know that there was some sort of internal issue
to make Andrew Webster of well for him the standing down.
But you know, they're not only had a top four
football side, I thought, but they had that massive, massive
support and you know they became nearly everyone's second team,

(09:27):
even in Australia because of what they've achieved since COVID. Look,
I think they're going to have a look at a roster,
the roster because there's a few people in that football side,
and look, I don't really want to single them out,
but they haven't turned up, they haven't justified their pay
packets this year, and you know you're not going to

(09:51):
make the finals. So it's going to be a really
interesting post mortem come October.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Just on that if there is an acceptance, and they
won't they because it's still a mathematical possibility. But if
there's an acceptance even privately, that the top eight now
looks unlike what should they be doing as a coaching stuff?
Should they be handing younger players, those who are contracted
beyond the end of the season game time?

Speaker 5 (10:15):
Yeah, Look, it's a really good point, you mate, you're
on nineteen points. You've got to buy twenty one six
games to go. You win everything, you'll get thirty three points.
You'll make it, Okay, I reckon thirty two points? Is
the cutoff was? As I explained early when I went
through the schedule, that will not happen and plus you've
got a negative for and against. Look, I will give

(10:38):
it another couple of weeks and see what You've got
a nice draw for a Fortnite You've got the West
Tigers and Parramatta. So I'd stick with my A grade side,
no question. Though in a few weeks time, when it
becomes mathematically impossible to make the eight, it is time.
It is time to experiment because and you know what,

(11:00):
the guys who are going to miss out in selection
won't have reason to go to Andrew Webs and say
this isn't fair. You know why, I'm because they haven't
aimed up. And yeah, it's been a really disappointing year.
Because I said, you've got a lot of it. There's
a lot of fans here in Australia who just Admias
so much what they achieved last year. And it was
good for rugby league. It really was raiding well on

(11:22):
television for that game last night, I think showed both
those football clubs, the Raiders and the Warriors aren't really
top eight sides this year. You know, it was a
pretty messy game and Ricky Stewart was very quick to
concede at his press conference afterwards. That the Raiders were
lucky to win on the back of your Paul goalkicking

(11:45):
tame to opick.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
He started at fullback last night. I had to leave
and failed an hia. Roger to Avasa Chik moved from
the wing, which is where he started, back to fullback.
Would you be playing Roger to Ivarsa Chick at fullback?

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Definitely. I think it's time to make that change. I
think he's a waste on the wing. And he's still
a superstar player. Hasn't reproduced anything like the form this
year that when he won the Dally Emm Award prior
to him moving to rugby union. But you want Rogers
hands on the football at every opportunity. You want him

(12:20):
poking into the back line left or right side, just
those sweeping movements, that massive step speed he's gotten. Yeah,
I would not be wasting a play of his ability
on the wing. But you know what I said the
same about sack like backs at the start of the
year when you know a regular center and change planning

(12:41):
and put him under the wing. And he became the
best winger in the NRL this year. But till Varsa
checks the fullback will say the fullback. You've got to
give him the opportunity to poke himself into the game
wherever he sees fit. He's so experienced out the back.
At fullback, you can see opportunities in a game. You

(13:01):
can decide when you're going to inject yourself and I
think that's one thing I'd be doing doing asap.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
The interesting part you mentioned Aden Vanua Blake before. The
interesting thing about the NRL is that you can sign
for another team but still have a whole season to
play with the team you're currently at. That's an odd rule,
isn't it, Because there's always going to be question marks
over guys, you know, if they know they're leaving after
the season.

Speaker 8 (13:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Can I just forget about impermented? I've been banging on
about well last week with Jason Rose. Now he was
still employed at Melbourne Storm after he'd signed with Paramatta,
and he's a young coach about the start and he
needs to Paramatta again like Bustards, and he needed to
prepare for next year. Same with Wayne Bennett. Wayne's coaching
two sides over here, Sion with South bringing their players

(13:48):
involved in recruitment, still trying to steer the Dolphins into
the side. Football is are a little bit different. I
you know, it's it's really tough. You know, players and
fans you know, want to support and share play who
are committed long term to their football club to win

(14:10):
a premiership. And he made it clear personal reasons that
he wanted out. Mind you, at the club and Camra,
George had done a great job to pick up Fisher Harris.
But it is odd. I don't like it whatsoever, but
there are rules in place that are allow it to happen.
And it's crazy as far as I'm concerned. And look,
I reckon it's detected. He's for he's he was the

(14:31):
number one prop in the competition last year in my view,
magnificent legs, be power and he's not this year and
it's been unsettling.

Speaker 7 (14:42):
You know.

Speaker 5 (14:42):
If he's coming home for personal reasons, I don't know
what they are, but I wish him well. But I
don't like the way the NRL allows this sort of
thing to happen. But you know what, Sadly it happens
across the competition and yeah, I'd like to see a
rule that prevents it from happening.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
Yeah, I don't think you're the only one. Just to finish.
If we zoom out Penrith, the Roosters, the Storm, anyone
from outside of that three gonna challenge to win this
whole thing this year.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Buzz Well, you've got the traffecta down there. Pen refers
to Storm. Look, I think the Roosters could even you know,
it might be their year. You get Joey Mahnhu back
onto the field with Swali and the Sanders. Their meddles
are just extraordinary. You know there's one team I do
like if they can ever get some consistency into the game,

(15:31):
and if they could take book fall over with them
wherever they went. I'm really really impressed with that manly roster.
You know that they're a really good forty side, and
you know they've got Turbo at the back again Tommy
to allow I reckon in. The Sanders has been one
of the buyers of the year. Cherry Evans back from origin,

(15:52):
great middle, Jake, Turbo, Ola Colatu on the edges. You know,
Josh Alloy, they're a good side. And I'll tell the
other by the is Netie that Nathan Brown in the
front row so a tek man. We could creep up,
take for spot and give it a shake.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Great to chat you, Phil, love talking rugby league with you,
getting your expertise. Enjoy the rest of your weekend and
I hope you hope your dog's okay. Can let them
bark now.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Thank you, have a good day you too.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
Mate, Phil Buzz Rothfield there one of the most experienced
rugby league journalists going around, over four decades of experience.
Great to have him on weekend Sport, your chance to
react to what you heard there and what you saw
last night. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty I saw
Chanelle Harris Tavita afterwards the camera landed on him and
you could tell how devastated he was. I mean, games

(16:45):
aren't won or lost on missed kicks, but the fact
remains that if it landed that last conversion from a
very handy position, the scores would have been level and
this game might have taken a different path. Andrew Webster
made the point afterwards it's not down to the goalkicking.

Speaker 9 (17:02):
We love to be one hundred percent on our goalkicking
every week, but there's plenty of other means to put
it down to not goalkicking. I mean, there's lots of
injuries and lots of things going on but the gold
King and to find.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
Us The other kicks that he missed were tricky, Capewell
and Barnett both scoring their tries out wide left, not
ideal for a left footed kicker. But you know again,
if he kicks that one over and it's a handy position,
isn't it. If he nails that one, then we might
be having a different conversation. Today. The Warriors have nineteen

(17:33):
points from eighteen games, four points outside the top eight.
Now there are still six games to play this weekend,
so they could find themselves five points outside the top
six by the end of the weekend and just seven
rounds remaining. We're now getting into the territory, which is
never good of talking about mathematical chances of making the

(17:54):
top eight. You start to get the calculator out and say, okay,
if we win that, when that, when that, when that,
then we could be in buzz Rothfield. He's unequivocal. This
team is not making the I tend to try and
be a little bit more optimistic, but it is going
to be tough from here. Just before we look at
the remaining games, this was a team we were so

(18:16):
optimistic about at the start of the season. After last
season and having arguably strengthened the squad, we were talking
top four. That's not going to happen now, and top
eight is far from certain, still achievable, though still achievable.
The remaining games Tigers at home, Eels at home over
the next two weeks, absolutely must win those two against

(18:38):
teams who were down on their luck and down near
the bottom of the table. Must beat the Tigers at home,
Must beat the Eels at home, and then the run
in Dolphins away, Sea Eagles away, Bulldogs at home, Sharks away,
and then the Bier finish. So three of the last
four games away, and of those last four games all

(18:59):
against teams who are currently in the top eight. You'd
have to think the Warriors would need to win at
least two of those and probably three of them to
jump up into the top eight. Of course, the NRL
is a competition that swings on small margins sometimes, and
the fact that the Warriors are playing teams who are
currently in the eight is also helpful because you get

(19:21):
the two points that helps your cause, and you deny
those teams the points and you get a bit of
a jump perhaps on them. It is getting really tough
now though, can you hear from your Warriors fans? Are
you still optimistic? Is this still a top eight side?
And a really interesting point that Buzz Rothfield made there.

(19:42):
And I've thought this for a long time, that the
rules around being able to sign players right at the
start of a season for next season, it's just fraught
with complication, isn't it. When you know that a player
is on their way out at the end of the season,
even before the new season has started, it's a no

(20:04):
win situation. As soon as that player has a game
which is below what you'd expect, immediately that that chatter starts,
or he knows he's going, he doesn't care. It's almost
certainly not true. I don't know a professional sportsperson who
doesn't play to one hundred percent regardless of what their
future holds. But it is a it's a rule that

(20:27):
just brings up that conversation unnecessarily. I know it's not
always possible to wait until the end of the season
and that sort of thing, but maybe there should be
some sort of you know, window, or some sort of
date where you you know, at the moment, I'm sure
there is that date you can start talking to players
who are off contract at the end of next season,

(20:48):
you know, before the season starts. Maybe you push that
date back, you say, he can't start talking to anybody
until I don't know, a couple of months out from
the end of the season. Otherwise these conversations are going
to continue to happen. Twelve to twenty eight News Talks
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if you want to have a chat, now's the time. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty twelve, twenty eight back

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with your calls after this.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
The Tough Questions Off the Turf Weekend Sport with Jason
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Speaker 4 (21:20):
Dogs twenty nine to one. He has some tough questions
to be asked of this Warrior squad over the week
ahead and the weeks ahead. Finn, are you preparing for
Top eight football for the Warriors?

Speaker 10 (21:32):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (21:32):
Get it? Get it?

Speaker 12 (21:33):
And mate, who bloody knows.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
It's sparking like a true Warriors fan, you know.

Speaker 12 (21:43):
Yeah, you tell me this. Finally, mate, you're closer to
the game, You're closer to the to the people at
that level of the game, you've got a better insight.
You tell me what, what has actually changed the Warriors
in the twenty eight twenty nine years. They've told us
things are changed and groups versus changed. That's true.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
We're just losing to there fun. I don't want, I
don't want. No, you're back, sorry, mate, we just lost
your last. But well, yeah, you were saying, what has
changed in the twenty oh nine years? Pick it up
from there?

Speaker 12 (22:19):
Yeah, what has changed?

Speaker 7 (22:21):
Mate?

Speaker 12 (22:21):
They've told you close to the game, they've told us
things are changed. In the back room. They've done this,
I've done that. But in twenty nine years, the results
on the field have not changed. It's been always been
hot and cold. What what is it? What's what's going on?
Because it's the same twenty nine years.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
What was better last year though, wasn't it? And it
really felt like a tipping point last year for fans
who had followed the team for the entire length of
their life the three decades that you've talked about there,
a lot of them was so optimistic after last year
about this year. That's what makes it inexplicable and almost
impossible to explain for I don't have an answer about

(23:03):
twenty twenty four given what I saw in twenty twenty three.

Speaker 12 (23:06):
But Piney, we've we've had those tipping points right through
the thirty years. We've had those two Grand finals, we've
had the top top eights, We've looked good. But again
it's another season of hot and cold. Has miss what?
What's what's actually systematically inherently wrong?

Speaker 4 (23:27):
It's a It's a fascinating philosophical question, fin because what
you're you're digging into there is saying, Okay, is there
something within this club that is repelling consistency?

Speaker 12 (23:40):
Exactly? You just can't put your It should be something greater,
I mean after thirty years and it should have been identified.
And yeah, it's another has a missed season.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Great way to kick off the conversation this afternoon. Fun
Thanks mate, I've enjoyed talking to you. Please call back, mate. Yeah,
I've en George chatting to you. And you're right. Do
we have to zoom out and look in on this club?
It doesn't I don't know. Does the way the club
played in the late nineties and in the mid two
thousands and the early part of the twenty tenths. Does
that actually have an effect on how they play now

(24:21):
or you know? Or does it our clubs? Are some
clubs just conditioned to success year after year after year.
You look at the Melbourne Storm for example in the NRL?
Are there certain clubs that just expect success and what
you put out there comes back to you again, I

(24:42):
look at last year. Who wasn't optimistic after last year?
Unfortunately that optimism looks to have been misplaced.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Hello philm Yeah, get a body.

Speaker 13 (24:52):
Yeah we were all off the mystic the last year.
But oh god, here we go again. Like Finn said,
you know the last caller, I think the same thing.
What the hell is going on? Because that is the
same thing and it's been the same thing, like he said,
for those years, you know, hot and cold and you
make a couple of finals and then last year they
looked like they would be making a final this year

(25:14):
so promising, but at the end of the season, you know,
it's the same result. And even the Ossie clubs they
don't you know, I don't think there wouldn't be many
of them that haven't had a run where they've had
lean years, but then they have good years and they
and they win the Grand Final, you know, where they
win a couple of finals, they come through. But this

(25:35):
doesn't seem to be the case with the Warriors. And
we've had good coaches like Cleary and this guy Andrew
Webster I think is a great coach as well, and
we've had good players, but just something that doesn't give
not getting a result, you know, the big one just
doesn't seem to But what I wanted to say was,
I was interesting listening to your rugby league man now

(25:56):
and I would have loved to have known who the
players were that if he had named and said they
aren't pulling their way to it not worth their paycheck.
You know, he said I won't name them, but there
was some there that he obviously thought shouldn't be there.
And the other thing that I think was a great
point that he made was that how many times of
the Worrier has got off let the other team get

(26:17):
off to a fourteen to twenty Nils start, you know,
at half the momement, at half time and they just
haven't turned up, you know at the start.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Phil, It's too often, too often, And you know it
was something they identified early on in the season from memory,
was not starting very well when not standing very well.
They seem to have addressed it for the last for
the most part, but then last night again they were
BOT fourteen nailed down after twenty minutes, and it's always
difficult to come back from that. Good to chat to you, Philt, Henry, Hello,
you may what's your main takeaway from last night?

Speaker 11 (26:50):
Well, but of disappointment. Really there was I think the game,
whether you know, I've got un't most respect for him,
and I definitely think he's the man for the job.
That his reluctance to start Roger two of us a
ship at fullback, that really creates me the game changed
last night. We don't when artists went to fallback, we
got on the front foot and we started winning.

Speaker 4 (27:11):
Yeah, I think you'll see him there now, Henry. It's
okay to walk back decisions, right, And you know, they
were all in on Roger playing at center this year
because you know they had chance. Nicol Klukstar is there
as they number one fall back and they said, right, okay, Roger,
you're a center. We're going to make them one of
the best centers in the comp But things change, right,
so I kind of walked things back. It's okay, from
to where the one jersey for the rest of the season.

Speaker 11 (27:33):
Yep, and I certainly would be one to support that decision. Now,
an interesting thing that I noticed with the head clash
that took the young fella the young fallback off. When
the clash happened, both players reeled away from the tackle.
I think he was holding his chest and the other
player was on the ground holding his head. How does
the off field doctor decide who's going to get pulled,

(27:56):
because on the optics of it, you certainly would have
pulled the Raiders player at least, if not both of them,
because obviously I think he did have ahead in directly failed.
But why didn't the Graders player get takes off at
the same time or do I miss that?

Speaker 4 (28:08):
No, great question. I don't think he did, Henry. It's
a great question because there's one of those sideline doctors,
isn't it they make the call. They don't have the
smart mouthguards or anything like that that Rugby do to
measure the impact on head or otherwise. I think that
I think, and I stand to be corrected. I think
they're just looking at a screen. I think that's all
they're doing, is looking at a screen and go all
that looks like a bit of a collision. He needs

(28:29):
to come off for a check because often you see
and it happened when the Warrior has played somebody in
Wellington at the beginning of last season, and you'll remember
who the player was had to go off, looked over
to the sideline, thought what do you mean? What do
you mean I have to come off? And then you
get things like last night where it seems so obvious
that someone should come off and they don't have to.

Speaker 11 (28:47):
Yeah, and it just opens up that criticism that the
Warriors get. Don't never get the rubb of the green.
You know that a consistency would be great. And as
far as Weeb's comment about kicking not winning and losing
the game, I realized he was trying to keep the
spirits up of all the players involved, especially the young
fellow that missed the kicks. But men kicking does win
and lose games as as simple as that, in fact

(29:08):
remains not at the scoreboard. If he got has kicks,
at least one of them, who would have been into
golden point and we were on the ascendant season, we
could well have won the game.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Good points for I made Henry, yep, no good points
for I made mate, keep the faith. I know you will,
and let's see. Let's see if Roger turns up in
the one jersey for the next little while. I hope
he does. And like I say, it's okay to walk
back selection decisions and comments that you make earlier in
the season when a landscape's different. It's okay for Andrew
Webster this week if he wants to to come out
and say, you know what, Yeah, I'm going to play

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Roger at fall back twenty one to one back after
this the.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
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Speaker 4 (29:50):
Be eighteen to one back to the lines in a minute.
Texts for I cannot recall a season where we've had
injuries in nearly every game, and despite what people say,
the Warriors have been hammered more than any other team.
We're not out, but the rest of the season is
a challenge, of course, but I feel the comeback shows
there is more fire under Webby. Twenty twenty four is
a hallow, tight season and yes those kicks hurt us,
but I keep the faith. Love it, love it.

Speaker 14 (30:12):
Hello, Mark, Hey Bony. I'm having a bit of a
Panica tech at the moment. I'm reading a lot of
stuff that a Pacifica.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
I think you'll find, Mark, that that is almost certain
to happen. Yeah, yeah, I had that on my list
of things to talk about today. We may get to
it after one when we when we talk about a rugby,
I think you'll find he'll go. I think, I think
that's what I'm hearing.

Speaker 14 (30:39):
I'll have to buy it by a calm band and
wear it for.

Speaker 8 (30:41):
A year or so.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Don't you think, though, Don't you think though that? I mean,
I thought about this yesterday. I felt the same way
as you when I first heard this news. I know
you want talk about the Warriors, but I mean it'll
strengthen ONEA Pacifica without question, give them relevance and validity.
And you think about the season we've just had as
Hurricanes fans. No Artie, he was in Japan. We've got
a pretty decent group of loose forwards there, Mark, I
think we'll be okay.

Speaker 14 (31:04):
Oh no, I mean just the hiving a laugh. I
think you know he's such a proud, proud sort of
Pacific Islander. I think he almost wants to bolster the
more out of Pacifica because I mean at the moment
they're almost facing extinction the way they're playing. You know,
they just had some terrible They really haven't been like
defeating Overhead. They really as phone their initiation and super

(31:25):
rugby coz And I think maybe he loved does and
goes well, I could be the catalyst well to the
n playing as well.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Yeah okay, well yeah no, he's still there, and I
think that's another big part of it. That's another big
part of it Mark. You know, the chance to play
alongside his brother, those two have, they've shared a lot
in their rugby journeys. Look, don't get me wrong, and
any any fan of any team would want an Ardie
in their team, but it's you know, unless he's unless
she's like down the blows.

Speaker 14 (31:52):
Well he might bring a lot of supporters there. Yeah,
don't interest thing they had a lot of. It didn't
seem like that. Like you look at the Tongue and
Rugby League and when they when they play all the
south at seems to come out to support. But I
don't feel like one I had the support of like
pig Intro. Now, obviously pg Intro was it was a

(32:15):
home team and I guess a lot of fans and
Auton probably already had their team sorted out. Worris game
last night. It was it was a bit of a
come down from State of right. Yeah, I don't think
either of those two teams are going to be contingents
for the title of this you know, unfortunately, and you
know people, you know, everyone likes to put the boot
into the waves, but man, the injury told them maybe

(32:38):
that's something they need to look at, what the amount
of injuries that have had this year and the way
they're training. But man, you can't expect the team to
even like the on and game injuries are having at
the moment. I mean, they lost the back three that
you know the week before last, and last night they
were down fifteen, know what I mean. It seems like
even the players on the field, like I think the

(32:59):
two of us, a chick and the thing like Martin
were injured last night. So it's just the team just
devastated by injuries. Up for a parallels, you look to
the Broncos have also been I'd stayed, but they've also
been devastated by injuries. So you know, they look like
a top at least the top fourteen, you know from
last year, and I mean that that's struggling. They made

(33:21):
the top eight as well, haven't they.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Yeah, now the grand finalist last year, of course, the Broncos.
And you're right, and it just shows that. It just
shows you the Broncos are there down in thirteenth, I
mean one game fewer than the Warriors, but yeah, they're
also your right struggling mark and it just shows the
NRL is such a difficult competition to be consistently good,
and that's why you get, you know, increased admiration for

(33:43):
the likes of the Panthers and the Storm who year
after year managed to do it. Hey, thanks for holding Morris.

Speaker 15 (33:49):
You no worries, mate, Hey you look, I look at
the Warriors and you know, I think the difference between
this year and last year and other years is that
it's about mental toughness. And I think that NRL you've
got to be really restally tough. In year they've had
a few injuries, but I think that that mentally they
you know, that would slope and it's very hard to
come back.

Speaker 8 (34:08):
And I used an example many years ago.

Speaker 15 (34:09):
It's coach Club Rubby in Auckland in a club cycled
the Papa PA and we got promoted to the second division.
But the last game and the second division we got
beaten by the last place team. The following week we
were playing Odah who had I think six super players,
Kevin me Alam who Brad Meeka, they're all there, and
we lost by two. Mentally the week before we couldn't
get prepared. The following week they were. The boys were

(34:31):
so excited we had that opportunity to play against that level.
They were so into it. And if we look at
the Warriors, it's a lot of the year games and
it's the better teams. They play superbly well. Penrith Panthers
is a good example, and when they get to the
bottom end of the competition they don't mentally focus enough
and I think it's it's not being raced. But it's
a Polynesian thing in obviously over all Tommins and it

(34:55):
was very hard to motivate the boys and get them
in the right spot week in week out for the
rigords of Club Rubby and it's only Club Ruby, but
it's the same thing as an athlete and I think
that's where the Warriores have a lot of issues around,
you know, just just getting them in that right frame
of mind, because you think, is what said, twenty odd games,
twenty six games in the NRL, week in, week out,

(35:16):
you've got to lift yourself every week. And hence the
Blues did it on Wednesday, suburbly queens. And I didn't
think they wren in the game. They're mentally win in
the game. Physically they win in the game, but all
those guys who physically probably equals when we look across
the teams, but well.

Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yeah, look, I think that's look and that's it, Morris.
In the in the NRL, there's you know, player for play. Yes,
there are strong there are squads that are stronger than others, absolutely,
but man for man, across a lot of those squads,
there's not a lot of difference. So it has to
be at least partly mental. It has to be. And
you know, look, having never been in the position of

(35:55):
an elite sports person, I can't say this for a fact,
but I'm sure that there is a heck of a
lot of difference going on when you're playing, you know,
when when you're winning week after week after week. That
confidence has to grow so that when you are behind,
you still think to yourself, right, we can get out
of this because we have been. Similarly, if you're behind

(36:16):
and your recent track record is of losses or substandard results,
that has to creep in. It's you know, a football
team that goes one nil down, if they're on a
winning streak, they think we can pull that back. A
team that's lost three games in a row that goes
one nil down. You know, you can see the body language,
the shoulders slump. We're not going to be able to

(36:38):
get back into this. It has to be at least
partially mental, of course it does. Otherwise, how can you
explain the same group of players by and large with
a couple of additions from last year in an almost
diametrically opposite position. Ten to one News talks beat Back after.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
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Speaker 4 (37:11):
Just on seven and a half to one text here,
don't forget it took Cronulla fifty years to win the
camp Wow, so we have to wait till two thousand
and forty five.

Speaker 8 (37:21):
You mate, Listen for the calls to say nothing's changed
over twenty nine years here. The results have been up
and down, but I think a lot of them are forgetting.
It's had a number of owners for Tye Louis Loans
Mate boil Eric Watson, and to say that some of
those parties were dubious or shady it would be an understatement.

(37:44):
But getting back to on the field, the current ownership
of the Alltech family, the Alltex fermut aimed by a
family that certainly do know how to succeed Robertson. The
owners stumped up money to make sure that they've got
the junior teams in there now. So for the first
time in a long time, they've got a nursery of
players coming through. So well, I think fans are going

(38:07):
to do a show. And I'm a South Sydney fan,
I know all about patients were a bit more patience.
They've you know, they've had a shocking run of injuries
this year and the players that have stepped up to
Ari Martin and now the be the Harris, they've gone
all right lately. But it's the case of well everyone

(38:31):
would call said earlier, what about the Broncos. You know,
if they chose a bit more patience. Last year they
would have won the Grand Bottle instead of trying to
put a cricket score on. This year, well, they're looking
very average. I think given enough time, where will bear fruit?
The car lane is certainly not that shy sick in

(38:52):
his hand in his pocket and getting things going. And
like I said, if you know anything about the family,
they certainly they had to run a successful business. And
at the end of the day, that's what professional sport is.
Having said, understanding all that, you know that kuld Of
tied up the game, You've just you've really got to
get those and you've got to have a kicker. I mean,

(39:14):
I'm sure he didn't miss them on purpose, but you know,
the further you go up towards the point, the end
of the season and the very end of it, the
air and errors from the margin for error gets less
and less and less. So they'll have a boy from
Penris over there next year and hopefully met Garth as

(39:34):
you'd call him messy. After long, this monster you can
finally get on the field again, but you have to
think the luck will turn eventually. You're just gonna have
tow a bit more patience.

Speaker 4 (39:46):
Good man, long, thanks mate. Yeah, look on the kicking,
I mean Adam Pompey was taking the kicks until he
had to go off and he's been good. From memory,
I can't remember Adam Pompey missing too many kicks when
he's taken over from from Sean Johnson on the kicking
tee Chanelle Harris Tavita hasn't had to kick a heck
of a lot this season. In fact, has he kicked

(40:09):
it all? Just trying to remember, I think he has.
I seem to remember he has done some kicking. But yeah,
Adam Pompey like and a left footed kicker. Those two
out wide are tough, but that one in front, really
he looked like he just looked like he wasn't confident right.

(40:31):
Pressure does funny things to people. Scotty makes that point.
He looked like a guy who was going to miss
and hoped he'd get it. It's so upsetting. We're unlikely
to make the eight from Joe Pinty. Big disappointment last night. Unfortunately,
the team's got a long way to go. Andrew Webster
needs to salvage something from the season, so might as
well put some of the young guys in now. Give

(40:52):
them some first great experience. It's thirty years next season,
but just remember it took Ronulla forty nine years to
get there first one. I just hope Warriors fans don't
have to wait that long. Yeah, good point, you make,
good point you make. I think we'll lock the Warrior's
chat on the head and there, head there. It's been
a good hour of chat. We've tried to unpick it.
Let's hope for brighter things ahead. After one o'clock we'll

(41:13):
start focusing in on the All Blacks Fiji.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
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Speaker 4 (41:30):
One o seven. Welcoming two thirty this afternoon. All Blacks Fiji,
San Diego. We've got the commentary for you. Our lead
commentator and rug Beata to Elliot smith Worth fifty five
Test sixty nine game All Black Center Frank Bunce alongside
with expert analysis, going to get you to San Diego
this hour. Bonnie Jansen from the New Zealand Herald is

(41:52):
there at snap Dragon Stadium. She'll set the scene for US.
Glenn Jackson very shortly Fiji and draw a head coach
freshly appointed. We'll get you to the Open Championship as well.
We didn't quite fit it in before one o'clock, but
want to wrap round two with Daniel Hillyer and Ryan
Fox making the Cup and also Adam Pickock from across

(42:12):
the Tasman in its regular slot. Your cause and correspondence
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Fiji are no longer a rugby mino those passionate fans.

(42:32):
But Australia one more chance.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
The scrum disintegrates all over the place.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Penal GfG, we've got a lover for a pig strum.

Speaker 6 (42:46):
Look good at means to this Fisen players.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
It's the first.

Speaker 9 (42:49):
Time since nineteen fifty four they've beaten Australia.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
What a time, what a past to do it now?
That's Fiji beating Australia at Rugby World Cup last year,
getting into the quarterfinals where they lost to England. By
eight points from memory having beaten England at Twickenham pre tournament,
so he Fiji making big strides in the fifteen man game.
To help preview this afternoon's test, It's a great pleasure
to welcome into a weekend sport. Former Chiefs and Saracen's

(43:16):
first five former leading international referee, including controlling thirty two
Test matches, Former assistant coach of Fiji, including at the
twenty twenty three Rugby World Cup, and having served as
assistant coach the newly appointed head coach of the Fiji
and Drewer Super Rugby side, Glenn Jackson. Of course, what

(43:36):
a CV you're building, Glenn. Thanks for joining us, mate,
How are you?

Speaker 3 (43:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (43:41):
Good?

Speaker 7 (43:41):
Thanks for this introduction. I can understand now while most
my hair is falling out, it's been pretty long in
the game, but I still would great to be involved.

Speaker 4 (43:48):
Alright, let's look straight away at this game this afternoon.
How much of a threat do you perceive Fiji to
be to the All Blacks in San Diego today?

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (43:58):
Look at the pretty settled side really from the World
Cup that we had last year. It's a pretty well
settled side with a couple of new guys from the
drawer that are in there. So look, they've got some
really experienced overseas players. I think the back rows is
pretty pretty special with Bill Matta and Lakeema from Poe,
so that the back row is really good. Young boy

(44:20):
that had actually missed out on the World Cup as
Kiddy Salawa who plays the drawer, he definitely would have
been there, but he fortunately got an injury. So there's
certainly some good experience in the team. Obviously, playing the
All Blacks is a different, different approach for any team,
especially Fiji in a little island like we are, so no,
but you know, I like what Mixed done in terms
of the selection and it should be the game.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Do you think there's the belief in the team now
that they can topple the All Blacks? They beat England
at Twickenham, beat Australier at the World Cup last year.
Do you think that belief is there that they could
topple the All Blacks.

Speaker 7 (44:54):
I definitely think so. I think if you look back
on history, I think the Fiji always looked up to
the All Blecks. I mean, you know the sprinting of
or not sprinting a lot of Fijians that have played
for the All Blecks. It's probably you come from an
island nine hundred thousand. They looked up to the All
Blacks as heroes and and sort of the the gurus
of rugby. But I think with Super Rugby now and

(45:15):
you know, we've we've been lucky enough to win a
couple of games in Fiji games on teams they like
you said, did pretty well against the World Cup with
Ben in England and then Australia. So certainly that area
of been able to win big matches has sort of
gone away a little bit. And you've got Thoyse like
Semi Ridargra and Weiss our captain there, who's who's done there.

(45:37):
They played a lot of rugby, won big cups in France,
so certainly well experienced. I think at the age age
bracket of the team's really good. Young Asai from from
Mars playing at teens's first proper game at twenty, so
the experience around him it should be you know, they're
certainly the belief I believe we have the.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
Big improvements come Glenn and f Jane rugby in the
last three or four years in terms of the way
they play the game.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
Oh, discipline, Diiline was number one for us going into
the World Cup. I think it was something that we
had to really change which became which was fitness. I
think the twenty David sevest As a trainer with Fiji
who's still with him that we had in the World Cup.
He'd been to five World Cups, I think, mostly with England,

(46:25):
so the way he trained and got our boys to
be fit is carried on. So also obviously playing continuous
rugby with the drawer and playing eighty minutes is the
biggest one because even in France and probably England, a
lot of those boys were either impact players or didn't
play for eighty minutes and that was something that we

(46:46):
really looked at it at the World Cup. So the
change around of Fiji playing well for sixty and then
falling off the last twe years has been a real
big change around.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
Yeah, alluded to it there, but how crucial to the
success of the Fijian national side have and will continue
to be the Fiji and drawer and super rugby.

Speaker 7 (47:05):
Yeah, it's I think it's something that obviously we tried
for a long long time to get team in Super
aby with Fiji had been and now you've got the
ability of players earning pretty good money being able to
stay home. Even next year. We're getting a few players
back from France and from around the place, so it's
certainly a massive part of Fiji and also in the

(47:30):
public right and behind the rugby and there was never
an issue around support. But I think seeing proper, super
abby games played in the country is really got every
run in behind the national team as well. So yeah,
it's certainly been massive, you know, I don't think we'll
truly see the real effects probably until sort of two
or three more years. On top of that, but when

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you've got a twenty year old team we were lucky
enough to get from New Zealand now playing for Fiji,
you know that that's the big change. We're not only
just getting great Fijian players, we're also getting Fijian players
that played overseason and their trade and New Zealand schools
in Australian schools.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
I want to come back to the drawer in the moment.
But in terms of the Fiji national sides improvement in
recent times, Ken, can you talk a bit about Vern
Cotter's influence on that improvement.

Speaker 7 (48:21):
Well, which we obviously know how good Werner's as a
key coach. I mean he's just gone from strength to strength.
He won won on France and did a great job
with Fiji when he's with us and then goes and
win's Super Rugby. So just bringing that sort of hard
edge mentality towards towards our four pack I think was outstanding. Also,
he just he knows how to win. You know, we're

(48:44):
extremely lucky to have Vern for three years. It was
you know, obviously disappointing that we he didn't go to
the World Cup with us. Simon Raeloni took over and
I think also same sort of mentality as Vern around
no nonsense and just getting our four pack a pretty
hard edge. And as you can see what the Blues

(49:04):
Blues did magnificently well was you can't win. They had
a Ford pack and I think I think at the
moment has got a really good four pack. So you know,
Ronnie playing and Saracen's Tavita is obviously a great hawker
playing for for for for us at the drawer. Asaki
Dongie also, you know, so you've got a front row
that can can compete with the All Blacks. And then

(49:26):
like I said, with the background, I think the back
row of Fiji, it's just amount of people that can
play in there.

Speaker 12 (49:32):
For this test.

Speaker 7 (49:33):
So it's a four pack that's been started with Burn
carried on the Simon and then obviously now Mix and
Graham Jews has done a good job with with that
with that team beating Georgia and Georgia just last week,
so which is no mean fake.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Yeah, and how do you reckon? Mcbern will go? It's
time to protect the future, I know, but how do
you reckon?

Speaker 7 (49:50):
We'll go?

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Oh.

Speaker 7 (49:52):
Mcburn has been unbelievable for the for for the drawer
he started up and he's been there for three years.
And the great thing about McKey he knows Fijians. He
knows he's lived there, he's lived and Breeze Fiji he
need left, so he knows the you know, the pressure
I suppose also from the Fijian public on performances, but
he also understands the boys and what makes them tick.

(50:14):
And you know, I think it's been a fabulous appointment
from Fiji Raby to sort of get the continuity from
the draw now into the national side this.

Speaker 4 (50:23):
Game this afternoon playing in San Diego. Does that disadvantage
Fiji or could it fact, could it in fact be
an advantage being the fact that it's at a neutral venue.

Speaker 7 (50:36):
No, I think it would have been a fabulous in Fiji.
I think it's where it was first muted to be there,
but unfortunately it didn't happen. Fiji's had a pretty hectic
sort of month obviously with Barbarians boshy straight up to
the quarter final, then they had Georgia and then they
had a week off, so they've sort of been overseas.
The good thing about that you're living and breathing with

(50:58):
each other, You're getting to know each other. So but
as you know, if you just look at drew as
results from home and away, a game in Fiji would
be it would be would have been fabulous today. But
I think San Diego is obviously great for a couple
of reasons. I think the North American market with the
World Cup, it's great. It's hope, hopefully going to be
a fantastic game. I know Feji will play and so.

Speaker 11 (51:19):
Well, so we'll be all black.

Speaker 7 (51:20):
So's if it's a great game of footy, then it's
only good for the game.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Obviously, marketing up in and the US, that's a positive
spin but you're right, Glen. I mean, how good would
it have been to have this game in siver for example,
or Lautoka.

Speaker 7 (51:37):
Yeah, look at really amazinging half on about it, but
we've all seen what superb You needed something a bit
of a change, and I think the drawer has brought that around.
The passion. I've had plenty of mates come up here
and just say it's the best sporting experience they've ever had.
SUV would have been pumped and jammed in with I
think it oldt eighteen to twenty four, but there would

(51:59):
have been thirty five thousand and bunched into that those hills,
So yeah, it would have been It would have been amazing.
It would have been amazing, but not only for for
the Fijian boys, but also for the All Blacks to experience,
you know, an atmosphere that like you don't often get now.
I suppose, just pure passion of the wonderful Fijian people
and how much they love the game. And also, of
course two and a half hours from Juion, so the

(52:21):
traveling community would have been up there as well, So
it would have been a great experience not only for
Fiji but also for the for the tourism market at
the time of the year one.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Agree. Yeah, the scenes in Super Rugby were just just
to reflect obviously mixed move into head coaching Fiji saw
you promoted to head coach of the Fiji and Drewer.
How much are you looking forward to to taking the reins?

Speaker 7 (52:45):
Oh, super excited. I think obviously it's my first effort
as a head coach. There's always always a bit of
a well, not pressure, but just demands of obviously carrying
on how well Mixed done making quarterforms two to three
years looking forward to that. The love the idea of
trying to take this young team another step for they're

(53:06):
a very settled squad, which always helps. And now we're
just going to get a couple of w's in on
the road, which is something we've already been looking at
pretty hard, and some experience of you know, some nineteen
year olds in our twenty so that's that's fabulous. So
we're getting our team a little bit older. We're still
I think we've got one guy over twenty seven and
the whole squad, so we're very, very massively young squad

(53:28):
that are always learning. So it's great to be given
the opportunity to lead such an amazing team.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
How do you want a White Games glean?

Speaker 7 (53:37):
Like I said, I just think you know, you look
at it. You know, our teen was nineteen, one of
our wingers was nineteen. You know, it's just it's experience,
and I think belief is one of the things we've
talked about a long and hard. Sometimes our boys are
playing in front of their family and the fans and
they just don't want to let them down, and that

(53:58):
takes a lot out of the young boys as well,
when you're at home and the pressure of them trying
to win in front of their home crowd. Sometimes just
going away as is the relief of obviously just living
in a pretty nice hotel and eating different food.

Speaker 14 (54:10):
So we just got to get all that ballots right.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
And I don't believe it is going to be a
massively hard thing to change around more experience to get,
the more the boys are going to understand how what
professional rugby is about. So try and get one of
those and then hopefully it just do. There's a flow
on effect of the belief around that.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Indeed, in terms of your coaching journey, it wasn't just
from play to coach. You had that decade of top
level refereeing in the middle. How helpful has that been
in your transition into coaching?

Speaker 7 (54:39):
Massively, massively helpful, I think most of all, look I
looked at going and coaching straight away from from playing.
I think referrings even though it's an amazing part of
the game and being part of it, but it's actually
an individual aspect of still our great game of rugby.
So it was gave me a good understanding of myself.
I suppose more than anything, just going from team to

(55:01):
team and the support you have around what you are
about as a team gave me a little different approach
of how to prepare and how to look after yourself
more than everyone else. So that twelve years of referring,
as we all know, it's not the easiest job in
the world, so you learn to live with the ups
and downs of your performance. And I guess I still

(55:23):
get shirty at times with referees and their decisions, but
I've got more of an understanding of how hard it is,
and it's you know, it's not always the easiest job
in the worse it's not always the rest fault, so
I try and be a little bit balanced to that.
I'm not I'm not fantastic at that, but it's just
the passion of it. So it's I've really enjoyed the
opportunity just to learn all the refing stuff was still

(55:45):
for me was one of the highlights and of being
involved in the game.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Yeah, a great journey mate player, referee and now moving
into our head coaching role with the Fiji and Drew
look really enjoyed your insight this afternoon, Glenn, thanks for
joining us. What is a what does a good performance
or what does a good result look like for Fiji
this afternoon? Just finally, Oh, they would definitely be to win.

Speaker 7 (56:06):
I think the changes the Orblacks are made new team is.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Always that pressure.

Speaker 7 (56:12):
I suppose Razor making making the substitution or the changes
that he's made from the England series. I don't think
even though they won two series that could have easily
probably slopped just about lost both games, so there's there's
a bit of pressure on them. So you know, the
Fijian boys were definitely out there to win, but I
think last time we played them was in Hamilton and

(56:33):
the result blew out of it. But the gaming in
Dunedin was quite a close game. So I think anything
within ten points wo be it would be an amazing result.
But yeah, I've got sever Resour is always the one
that concerns me a little bit every time he plays,
either the DRI or fijis up scoring bloody trice of fun.
So as long as they look after our little Fijian buddy,
we should be we should be.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
Okay, amazing, great to check Glynn, Thanks for your time, mate,
good Man. Thanks Age, No, thank you. That's Glenn Jackson,
of course, our former top class player a decade or
more as a top class referee, now a coach. Great
insight into the Fiji and rugby ecosystem from Glenn Jackson.
Kick off at two thirty five this afternoon in San

(57:14):
Francisco will start our build up after two o'clock. Will
get you to San Diego. Did I say San Francisco?
I meant San Diego snap Dragon Stadium of course, so
we'll get you there before two o'clock with Bonnie Jansen.
She's also going to grab a chat with Razor, which
we'll hopefully get to after two o'clock. Your thoughts on

(57:34):
the game interest are interesting to me. What is a
good result for Fiji? Look, I think only the most
ardent of Fiji and fans would be predicting a victory. Yes,
as Glenn Jackson just said, they'll be going out there'll
win the game. Of course they will. Any team goes
out to win any game, and having beaten England and
Australia at the back end of last year, this Fiji

(57:55):
inside will sense the possibility of a win. Look, I
don't think they'll win. I think the All Blacks will
win the game. Fiji have never gotten within thirty of
the All Blacks in the previous seven test matches between
the two. We had an article in the Herald we
had to predict our ten point bracket. I predicted twenty

(58:17):
to thirty. I think it's a twenty to thirty point
win for the All Blacks. You might think it'll be
a bit closer. Text it through two ninety two, just
before we move on Artie Artie Savier. You would have
caught this news yesterday. I'm sure it's looking highly likely
as though Artie Savier will move from the Hurricanes to
Mojana pacifica next year. Now, once the initial shock had
worn off as a Hurricanes fan, I started to think

(58:40):
a bit more clearly, rather than emotionally about this, I
have to say I don't mind it. Of course as
a Hurricanes fan, I want Artie to play for my team,
but imagine the good that he can do at Mowana Pacifica.
They have really struggled to find super rugby relevance and
competitiveness in their short life. Contrast them with the Fiji
and Drewer, who have worked it out pretty quickly and

(59:04):
have made the playoffs in the last two years. Will
won to Pacific Up have really struggled by comparison, adding
a player of Artie Savi's ability and stature will immediately
improve them. He will add thousands to their gates for starters.
He'll be a mentor to younger players in the team,
and through his own performances and his leadership, he'll drive

(59:24):
the team forward. And for Hurricanes fans, you know, of
course we're going to naturally worry about losing the World
Player of the Year, but it does pay to remember
that the Hurricanes just had one of their best seasons
without them. He was playing in Japan as part of
his sabbatical and there is a really good group of
loose forwards at the Hurricanes. Now look at braidon your

(59:45):
seat one of the standouts this pass rugby a Super
Rugby season. He was being talked about in all Blacks conversations.
Braid in your seat. If Ardie Savi had been there,
he wouldn't have got the chance to play most of
the time. Adding Peter Lacy, Brad Shields, Stuplusi Kodifi Devon Flanders,
it's a fairly decent group of loose forwards at the Hurricanes.
Do not get me wrong, of course, if you had
your choice, Ardie Savia playing rather than not playing for you.

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Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
News Talk NB one point thirty had it pointed out
by Peter Fiji only lost by one point in an
unofficial test against US in nineteen seventy four. Yeah, the
official test matches began with the nineteen eighty seven Rugby
World Cup and in the seven since then it has
been well seven victories for New Zealand and never have
Fiji got within thirty points. But yes, going back to

(01:01:52):
the pre nineteen eighty seven Rugby World Cup days when
the tests weren't official, there was that one point win
in nineteen seventy four. Well spotted Peter kee. We golfers
Ryan Fox and Daniel Hillier have sneaked inside the cut
line to book their place in the final two rounds
at the Open Championship at Royal Troon, with the cut
ending up at six over par. Ryan Fox's two over

(01:02:14):
second round left him at four over, while a late
eagle helped Daniel Hillyer finish at five over. Kazumikabori finished
in agonizing one shot outside the cut mark. Michael Henry
was three shots further adrift just before we moved to
the leaders. That eagle by Daniel hilly Are on sixteen
today was one of only two eagles all day. On

(01:02:38):
the sixteenth Dustin Johnson was the other one. I've even
got the stats here. Dustin Johnson a two hundred and
ninety eight yard drive a two hundred and sixty three
yard approach and a twenty four foot part. Daniel Hillyer
get this a four hundred and nine yard drive. Goodness
me a one hundred and fifty one yard approach and

(01:02:59):
an eleven foot part. So the two eagle makers on
sixteen today at Royal Troon, Dustin Johnson and Daniel it
is not bad company. I Meantime, a long Boodie put
to finish has given irishman Shane Lowry a two shot
lead after two rounds. The twenty nineteen champions two under
round has taken him to seven under. He is too

(01:03:19):
clear of the English pair of veteran Justin Rose and
round one leader Dan Brown. Let's bring in Scott Taylor
from talkSPORT, who's covering the Open Championship at Royal Troon.
Scott great to get the chance to check. Do you
tell us first of all about Shane Lowry second round?

Speaker 3 (01:03:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:03:36):
Shane Lowry, excellent golf and the conditions that we're all
true today were unlike yesterday. Yesterday was wet and cold,
but today was all about the wind. The mile an
hour of the winds were up to thirty mile an hour.
Come two or three o'clock in the afternoon. So on
day one we saw people having irons off the tee
on the first for example, today they were using wood,

(01:03:57):
so just shows you the impact of the wind. And
for Shane Larry to shoot a bogie three sixty nine
was sensational. And he's asked every time in these conditions
do you like playing in them? And don't you prefer
playing in them? But because he's played a lot in Island,
he actually says, well, I live in Florida now, so
these aren't actually my home conditions anymore. But for him

(01:04:19):
to provide that sort of spectacle in that level of
golf today with sensational given how the rest of the
field and some huge names, no doubt we'll talk about
in a minute, struggled massively and for Shane Lowry two
shots off the lead, great position to win a second
Open in five years.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
Just tim guys and read numbers after two rounds, which
I actually really like. I don't know about you, Scott,
but this is the kind of golf I love. None
of this, you know, twenty six understuff from the PGA
two you see sometimes this is a real taste for
the world's top golfers, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:52):
Oh?

Speaker 16 (01:04:53):
Absolutely, And that's why I loved even the US Open
up Pinehurst, that those conditions were brutal as well. And
it just the motto to truon is about as much
as skill and power as it precision, and that's exactly
what it is. And in linked golfers as well, you
need to be able to hit the ball far, but
in these winds you need to be able to manage

(01:05:13):
the wind conditions and find the fair ways regularly, and
also read the greens. The greens have been quite difficult
to read for a lot of golfers, having spoke to
them after their rounds. But I think one man who's
putted superbly this week has been Justin Rose. And I'm
sure we've touched on him in a sec but his
Teeter Green has been fantastic. But on the greens. It
saw his putts to Birdy the eighteenth failure on today

(01:05:37):
that was sensational. But his putting game all week has
been been up there with the very best.

Speaker 7 (01:05:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
So he was three under today, joint bast round of
the day. A few guys shot three. And to tell
us about Justin Rose, is he the one most likely
you think to challenge Shane Lowry over days three and four.

Speaker 16 (01:05:56):
Yeah, Justin Rose, it's a really good, feel good story.
I'm slightly biased because he's actually from the same sort
of area of England as I am really, so he's
quite a local boy. We both support the same foot
back in the UK, so he's always had a soft
spot for me. But this was a guy who had
to go through the Open qualifying to even reach Royal
Troon last week. So he went to one of the

(01:06:18):
qualifying events shot eight under part ended up coming through
that to even.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Get to here.

Speaker 16 (01:06:24):
And it's quite admirable that a guy aged forty three
is still willing to put himself through the hard yards
to even compete to Open championships. He's won one major,
as you say, at the US Opening in twenty thirteen,
so you're always seeing Ryder cupch example Justin Rose as
a clutch player. The big moment Justin Rose turns up
and I'd be delighted to see him win a Cleric jug.

(01:06:47):
There's been a lot of talk over the past couple
of years in golf about live and perhaps Justin Rose
could easily have been one of these players that in
his forties now, could have gone to live set up
his family for life. But I think the fact that
he still finds it such an honor to play at
major championships is just a testament to the character of
Justin Rose. So I mean, Shane Larry's a fantastic person

(01:07:09):
off the field as well, but I'd love to see
Justin Rose win a claric jug.

Speaker 4 (01:07:14):
I want to come back to the top of the
leader board in a moment. But you talked about some
big names who won't be there on days three and four.
Rory McElroy, Can you what's he living over after his
two rounds? So you know, well outside the cat line,
what happened to Rory.

Speaker 3 (01:07:31):
Yeah, it's a very good question.

Speaker 16 (01:07:33):
It's the thing with Rory. He started to turn it
on right at the end of his round. But it's
been a theme of Rory McElroy. When the pressure is
not on, he plays really good golf, but it's too little,
too late, and he just his body language after hitting
a few bad shots. It just didn't look like his
week in the build up. But I spoke to your
colleagues as well and he looked really relaxed in the

(01:07:54):
build up. His press conferences. He was very relaxed, he
was having a laugh, He looked in a really good place.
But one of the things he and many other golfers
will have pointed to that his practice rounds were in
very generous weather for Scotland in July, whereas as soon
as championship days come around, there's swirling wins, there's conditions

(01:08:16):
he's not practiced in before. So to come up with
a strategy sort of ad hoc really and not go
into the Open Championship on what you plan to play
because of the weather conditions must be hard. But it's
not just Rory, and I think he's going to be
given a spotlight given the profile of player. But we've
seen Ludvid Oberd, We've seen Bryson Deschambeau, we've seen Victor Hobland.

(01:08:36):
So it's not just Rory McRoy who's missed the cut.
I think it's just one of those bad weeks. And
unfortunately for him, there's not a major till the Masters
now next year, so that wait for a major will
become eleven years.

Speaker 4 (01:08:49):
Let's go back up to the top. We've talked about
Shane Lowry and Justin Rose. Who else is lurking Scott
and could potentially make a run in the third or
fourth round.

Speaker 16 (01:08:59):
Yeah, the story for a lot of the people looking
at the leaderboard. We'd look at Dan Brown. You know,
he's open debut, shut the sixty five yesterday, not bad
for your first round of open golf, and he's sort
of an unknown really. But in terms of potentially winning
the Cleric Juggle, a Shane Lowry's in a fantastic position,
slow to Justin Rose. But for me, Scotty Scheffler, yesterday

(01:09:22):
Pray played brilliantly, shot a seventy one underpass shot of
seventy today as well. But his putting, if you ask
someone to lip out every hole deliberately, Scotty Scheffler didn't
really have to look. It felt like he left a
few shots out on the course, whereas a Shane Lowry
or Justin Rose probably played to their max to get

(01:09:43):
their registered total, whereas Scheffler, you feel, left a few
puts out there on round one and still only being
five off the lead with two rounds to play. I
know it's very predictable to say the world number one
doing with a good shout of winning a major, but
Scotty Sheffler's playing some good golf.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
Yeah, well they world number one, these players for a reason.
At what score? When's this? Scott seven Ander threw two rounds.
If Shane Larry went par par would seem an underwin
it or would they need to need to go a
bit lower than that.

Speaker 16 (01:10:12):
I think you would go a little bit lower the
conditions tomorrow. It all depends on the conditions.

Speaker 5 (01:10:17):
The conditions tomorrow look a.

Speaker 16 (01:10:18):
Little bit worse than today in terms of a lot
of rain about. There's going to be more swirling wins,
so to shoot even parr might be a good score.
We were actually having a chat with some of the
some of the golfers today and one of the common
themes was what would a scratch golfer get on today's conditions,
And a lot of the pros were saying they probably
would just about reach one hundred, if not very high nineties,

(01:10:42):
which shows you just how tough it is out there.
So I'd like to see a sort of ten eleven
twelve underpart win this championship. As you mentioned earlier, low
scoring major is always the best ones. So tomorrow will
be tough and Sunday looks to be a little bit easier.
So I'm looking at around the sort of eleven twelve
ten under paw Mark.

Speaker 4 (01:11:01):
Wonderful Scott, thanks for joining us across New Zealand. Greydor
nellisism look forward to seeing how round three and four
play out at Royal True. Thanks for your time anytime, guys.

Speaker 16 (01:11:11):
Take care now you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
Take care too, Scott. Thanks indeed, Scott Taylor there from
talkSPORT in the UK. So yes, so Daniel Hillier and
Ryan Fox will play the weekend. Daniel Hillier is five
under the card. He will tee off at nine to
twenty tonight New Zealand time, and Ryan Fox is underweyers
I just scroll up at around eleven twenty five he

(01:11:34):
is four under the card. So the two kiwis involved
in the weekend Daniel Hillier and Ryan Fox. Unfortunately Michael
Henry and Kazuma Kabori have missed the cut twenty to two.
Reminding you we're less than an hour away now from
the All Blacks against Fiji. We've got full live commentary
from San Diego with Elliott Smith and Frank Buntz. We'll
get you to San Diego before two o'clock with Bonnie

(01:11:56):
Jansen to set the scene Next up though, across the
tessment our regular catch up with Australian correspondent Adam Peacock.

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Speaker 4 (01:12:14):
Just on sixteen Away from two. Let's get you across
the Tasman and bring in our Australian correspondent Adam Peacock
in the car on the way to golf. I think
that's the weather for your game today and good.

Speaker 14 (01:12:24):
Afternoon, Good afternoon.

Speaker 10 (01:12:26):
Yes the sun's out, but the wind is out. Let's
give me interesting to the Test match light of the
Savo and Sydney excellent with the Wallabies. But yeah, I
think I've just basically decided because I play on a
links course. It's basically, well, you guys are watching so
much at the British Open at Troon, you can bloody
play it as well.

Speaker 4 (01:12:45):
That's what we're in for, Lynks golf, love it all right,
Well before you get to the course, A couple of
things I wanted to kick around with you. I saw
ESPN publish their list this week of the top twenty
five Australian athletes of the twenty first century. So this
is obviously from the year two thousand onwards. Ian Thorpe
at the top, then Ash Party, the tennis player, basketballer

(01:13:05):
Lauren Jackson, cricketer Elise Perry and football of Sam Kerr.
Of the top five. Ian thought, would he be generally
recognized as number one of the last twenty five years
or so?

Speaker 10 (01:13:16):
Probably not, But you can't argue with it. I can
understand it because he was so good as a kid
at the two thousand Olympics and he was verging on
dominant at the two thousand and one World Championships. In
two thousand and four Athens Olympics, he backed it all up,
So I've an amazing swim and I don't think we
fully appreciate how he did what he did. I mean,

(01:13:39):
he burst onto the scene of the World Championships when
he was fourteen or fifteen and did what he did
at the Sydney Olympics when he was seventeen. It was
just like otherworldly. So yeah, an incredible athlete. Can't argue
with that. The only thing that has got my head
scratching about this list. And look, but I've seen a
few of these pop up around the world at the
moment twenty five for twenty five years is Kathy Freeman.

(01:14:00):
She's come up with the best Australian sporting moment of
the twenty first century at the Sydney two thousand Olympics,
and she's way down the list. So it's a difficult
one to weigh up. I don't envy the person who
actually had to carry out the instruction, but yeah, is
there a right? Is there a wrong? And it's a
really hard one.

Speaker 4 (01:14:17):
Yeah, widthless of this sort. As you know, you've probably
been asked to put them together yourself at your top
five and my top five might cross over a little bit,
but there's always discussion points. Keen on your thoughts on
Ash Barti and her she's number two on this particular list.
Her contribution to tennis and your country and to Australian sport.

Speaker 10 (01:14:37):
Yeah, she is universally love of a nationwide love Ash
Party is should say universally because we're just one country
in the universe. But you know what I mean, everyone
loves ass Party. No one has a bad word to
say about her. Incredibly humble human being. I've done some
good things for indigenous sport and tennis and a fantastic

(01:15:02):
tennis player as well to throw in there. And probably
we're talking about someone if she stayed playing, and fair
play to her or not because she didn't want to
someone who wins ten twelve Grand Slams. But she won
what she won and did it in a style that
everyone loved here in Australia. It wasn't a grinding style.
It had a bit of style about it. So yeah,

(01:15:24):
no argument is there, Absolutely not all right?

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
And the sport most represented in the top ten is cricket.
Elast Perry I mentioned it four, Ricky Ponting six, Shane
Warn seven. Any argument that that's not the right order
at least Perry Ricky Ponting, Shane.

Speaker 10 (01:15:40):
Warn, Oh yeah, Warning did a bit of his did
a bit of his thing in the other century, So
I get all that. At least Perry probably goes so
high because she's actually scored in a women's football World
Cup as well multi sport, and look, she's for a
sport that is hurtling towards more and more publicity and

(01:16:07):
and eyeballs and everything, women's cricket. She was at the
forefront of it. She's a bit of a tilblazer and
every kid now who's fifteen, they're in awe of Elish Perry.
Not just fans of her like, they just absolutely love her.
So yeah, a huge name and probably deserves to be
in that top ten somewhere, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
As to say, these lists are debated endlessly but always
good food for thought and for discussion. Just before you go,
I see Ann's posta cooglu and charge of Spurs. Obviously,
the Australian boss has been talked about as a possibility,
a possibility as a successor to Gareth Southgate as England's
next manager. Can you see this happening?

Speaker 10 (01:16:47):
No, I don't know if there's more hope than anything else,
but I'd be amazed. Yeah, you can't rule anything out,
and I mean, if the financial package is good enough,
he might, but I just can't see it. On his
radar club coach. He got so frustrated as as soccer's boss. Sorry,

(01:17:11):
I'm just reversing my car.

Speaker 4 (01:17:12):
That's the beat.

Speaker 10 (01:17:13):
That's just not my car. Reacting to us talking about
and the possibility of coaching England. But I just can't
see it happening at this stage of his life. He
might go on to become a national team coach somewhere again,
but that's in a decade.

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Not now.

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
All right, Hey, you've got to leave there, Adam. We
need to get to San Diego. Not putting you on hold,
of course, but we'll look forward to tenity you next week,
by which time the Olympics will be underway. I know
you're part of stand sports coverage of the Olympics on
that side of the Tasman. Looking forward to chatting about
your various medals and hopefully some of ours as well.
Good to chat to you, Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondent.
Eleven away from two. Yeah, when we come back, we're

(01:17:48):
going to get you to San Diego. Bonnie Jansen from
the New Zealand Herald is at snap Dragon Stadium. She'll
paint the picture and set the scene for us. Right
after this, of course, for commentary from two thirty five
here on News Talks, he'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
When it's down to the line. You made a call
on eight Weekend Sport with Jason Hine, News Talk ZMB.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
It's just on seven away from two. Let's get you
to San Diego. Snap Dragon Stadium scene of the All
Blacks third Test of the Year against Fiji two thirty
five kickoff. Bonnie Jensen from the New Zealand Herald has
been pulled out of a large group of candidates to
be there for US Live. How is the How has
the experience been in San Diego? Of course you're in
You're in San Fran. Weren't you for the for the

(01:18:32):
Sale GP. Now in San Diego painting the picture for us.
What are you seeing as you look out approaching seven
o'clock local time?

Speaker 17 (01:18:40):
Yeah, calder fini, No, it's absolute scenes here. I've actually
bumped into quite a few Kiwis that have also traveled
from San Fran from the Sale GP down to San
Diego for the All Blacks. It's bloody hot, I have
to say, obviously playing more into Fiji's favor. But the
sun is starting to set in it it will will

(01:19:00):
become dark and the match is obviously being played under light.
So no that the stands are filling up and it's
it's great.

Speaker 4 (01:19:06):
At usphare tell us about the stadium. I think I
read or heard it holds sort of thirty five thousand.
What sort of stadium is it? Rectangular?

Speaker 7 (01:19:15):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:19:15):
Painting the picture of the venue for us.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:19:19):
No, it's a rectangular stadium. It's kind of giving Mount
Smart vibes. It's quite close to the field, like almost
an ideal Premier League set up, and you'll know much
of that, Piney, But no, it's you're very close to
the players and they're currently warming up, which is great.

Speaker 3 (01:19:37):
And yeah, there's no roofs as.

Speaker 17 (01:19:39):
Well, but thankfully Blue Skies thirty five thousand people. I
believe they only had a just under a thousand left
to sell at the door, which the All Blacks are
pretty confident they'll get done. So yeah, it's filling up now.
The other thing that's really cool about the stadium is
there's a rooftop here and basically a bunch of NFL stars,

(01:20:02):
VIP guests, influences, people like that from San Diego have
been invited and they're currently lounging up on this rooftop here,
which this unbelievable bar.

Speaker 10 (01:20:12):
It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:20:13):
So when you say that, are you among them?

Speaker 17 (01:20:16):
Well, look, Pinee, I'm gusted I didn't get the invite,
especially because this is Alex Morgan's home stadium. You'll know
her pioneer. She's a world class soccer player, as they
call her in America and I was I was thinking
maybe she might be up there. So I think I'm
going to have to try and go wheezing my way
in and see who.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Is up there.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
I'm sure you about a bluff your way and look
just before you go. In terms of the crowd that
are turning up, you mentioned seeing a few keywee's. Will
there be some support for Fiji as well?

Speaker 17 (01:20:48):
Yeah, I believe there are talking with kind of the
Fiji out of the Fiji camp. You know, there's there's
a good Pacific culture here in San Diego, so yeah,
no doubt there'll be a bunch of Fiji and plans
at fans And already I can see blue blue flags
hung up around the stadium. Definitely more black jerseys go piney.

(01:21:09):
And I don't know if you've heard, there's this thing
called tailgating here and they basically fans come and sit.

Speaker 2 (01:21:15):
In the car parks.

Speaker 17 (01:21:16):
And I've just bumped into one Kiewe family that's Linden,
San Diego, and they've got cray fash and prawns and cocktails.
I've made up setting out there hours before the stadium.
So yeah, no, it's great vibes.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
Yeah, One of the great traditions of American sport is
tailgating year. Some people don't even make it inside the ground,
they just wait outside. Hey, Bonnie, great to get the
chance to set the scene with you. We'll hear from
you again after two o'clock and I believe you're getting
alongside raisor robertson Forest, So thanks for sitting the scene.
We'll like catch up after two see it then, Bonnie
Jensen live at snap Dragon Stadium. Where as you heard,

(01:21:52):
the All Blacks and Fiji are warming up as we
speak are twenty three degrees. I'm reading here on the
live temperature gauge from San Diego, so yeah, that'll be
I guess more sited to Fiji and it will be
the All Blacks. We will begin our build up up
to this Test match after the news at two.

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
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