August 3, 2024 • 16 mins
Mental performance coach David Niethe has built a solid brand training and motivating people over the years - having worked with City Kickboxing and Israel Adesanya, among others.
He's put his expertise into a new book- The Winning Mindset.
He joined Piney to elaborate further.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Book arrived on my desk this week. Called The Winning
Mindset Successful Strategies for Sport, Business and Life. It's written
by David Neathi, one of New Zealand's leading mental performance coaches.
He's worked across business and sport to help enable peak
performance in the sporting world. Among those he's worked with
are city kickboxing fighters Israel Adasanya and Kaikara France. He's
(00:34):
also worked with golfers Lydia coh and Michael Hendry, the
New Zealand breakers Jack O'Gill, and several other Commonwealth Games
and Olympic athletes. He's also got the same haircut as
Meat was keen to get him in David Neathy, how
are you.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm great, mate, Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Your seminars usually include the phrase language may offend. Do
we need to be careful here? No, we might have
to be a little bit careful, but we'll be reserved today.
Great to see him make congratulations on the book. Is
this your first book?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
This is my first book. In fact, it was unexpected.
It was HarperCollins approached me and asked if i'd be
keen and just to say the least, it wasn't. It
wasn't something that was actually planned. But yeah, here it is.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It speaks, or actually I think that's a right phrase.
It feels like the book is speaking, and now that
I've met you, it feels like it's speaking in your voice.
Is that was that the intent that you wanted? You
wanted it to be kind of really?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, I tell you I had all. I will admit
I did have some help obviously with net McCloy, who
was my ghost writer, and she she said, look, Dave,
you you've got a personality and idea. We want to
sort of bring that across. So she she sort of
structured it that way. And obviously, you know, the other
(01:47):
person that really helped a lot was the wife, my wife, Joe.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's off on the case. Yeah, I can say from experience, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I had a lot. I had a lot on my plate,
and you know, I felt like, you know, we we
didn't have we didn't have a lot of time. But
Nick did a fantastic job.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What are some of the central themes of the book.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I think if we talk about just overcoming fear, talking
about building and strategies on how to navigate your way
through the challenges of that. You know, how do we
get into peak performance? How do we overcome fair? How
do I become the best version of myself? And the
whole books about strategies are in overcoming.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
One central question of the book is, and it's written
across the back and read letters, what would you do
if you knew you couldn't fail? How prevalent are feelings
or fears of failure in top athletes.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I think you'll find that progressively as they get condition
for top quality competitions. The nerves it's no different from
a golfer on a Sunday game worrying about the hit
in the first shot are But these high performance athletes
(03:09):
are well conditioned. They've had tens, if not decades of
hard work, so they're kind of used to it.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And failure is inevitable on any journey, especially to the
very top, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It's on the journey to success you are going to
pass through failure many times.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
What are the keys to dealing with.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It, reframing it and understanding this? The fundamental thing here
is that there is no such thing as failure. There's
only learning.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
What I say in the book is if you can
preserve the learnings and let go of the negative emotions,
you then develop and build a strong self image so
that you can navigate continuously on the path to your goals.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's hard, though, wasn't it, Because at the time when
things don't go your way. I'm not just talking elite
athletes or very successful business people, but all of us.
We all have moments in our life when going, yeah,
that hasn't gone the way I hope. You feel embarrassed,
you feel like you let people down, you feel disappointed.
How can you separate all of those emotions and try
and take out the lessons?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, I think that's probably where you sort of want
to have someone or a support network that can help
navigate and create those conversations to extract from that, you know,
the key learnings. I mean, this is why you know,
sports psychologists mental performance coaches are so vital today in
the world. I mean, it's a growing industry.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You've touched on a really interesting point that I was
going to ask you about. How has the attitude towards
coaching mental performance changed and you've been doing it three decades? Yeah,
what was it like what was.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Luck when you started and nowadays, you know, if you
kind of learned from senior members around you or your coaches.
And certainly I want to make this sort of clear
in the contents of what I do. I work with
high performance. I don't do mental health. So I think
(05:03):
there's a lot more self awareness of mental health issues
and having the right people around them to support that.
But when it comes to high performance, that's a very
specialist field. That's where I sit.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And so when you started, was it was there still
some what we thirty years ago ninety four? Was there
a bit of suspicion still around about about you know,
coaching mental performance? Just getutther and lift some more weights,
will you?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, the old sort of tea spurn or concrete and
harden up, mate. I mean, but I was very much
that blue collar worker who was brought up in that environment,
which to a certain point, you know, there's some bloody
truth in that. You know, whether you like it or not,
you kind of have to harden the pep up if
you really true you want to overcome. So it's about
(05:49):
facing those fares. But ideally, you know, when we have
that sort of harden up narrative. It's it's it's not
really it's frowned upon. But I will tell you, you know,
working with a lot of my clients, I absolutely challenged
them to understand and to face that fair Carl Jung
said this, we're fear lies. There's your task.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Love that. Love that David neath, he's our guest. The
winning mindset is the book. You've worked with kickboxes like
Israel Adisanya and golfers like lydia Coe. They could hardly
be more diametrically opposite in terms of what is needed
for success. I mean, lydia Co's got to be utterly
relaxed before she approaches every shot. I don't know about kickboxing,
(06:33):
but i'd imagine you have to be fairly hyped up
to get in the octagon to start with.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, it's actually not the case at all being hyped up.
I mean, in the book, I took about the performance
window and ideally the difference something with kickboxing. It's not
about reacting, it's about responding, and you have to have
a calm mind to be able to anticipate the movement.
(07:02):
So what I get with a lot of feedback with
the guys is when I talk about getting into that state.
The feedback is often it's like I'm half a second
ahead of my opponent and that's a beautiful place to be. Now,
as far as Livia's concerned, I think the one thing
that makes God very challenging is that you have time
(07:22):
to think, and that thinking can very quickly contaminate.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yes, so because I think you're right, you off and
hear about the heat of the moment or somebody doing
something spontaneously. You can't reallydo that in golf, can You've
got far too much time to think about it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah. Yeah, And you've got to be able to manage yourself.
I mean, you hit the ball two hundred and twenty
meters down the fairway, You've got time to think or
reflect about the last hole where you boged whatever. And
these these thoughts can actually contaminate the self image. It
can actually affect the neurology and have an impact on
(07:58):
your ability to stay in the now, which is so
so important for high performance athletes.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So there are general of course that apply across goals,
specially boxing and everything in between them.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Absolutely one is absolutely self awareness, absolutely understanding through conscious
awareness on the state that you're in and understanding is
this state contributing or contaminating the moment that you can
because fundamentally you cannot change anything you don't first recognize.
So you recognize, hey, this is not helping me. I
(08:31):
give them a toolbox or a performance mental performance toolbox
of things that they can use to get them back
into state.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I want to ask you about outside noise, which is
now more prevalent than ever. Anybody with an Internet connection
and a smartphone can make you know, can post an
opinion about anybody. Someone's probably listening to us and firing
something off right now. They want if they want to,
how important is it and how can you block out
noise that is irrelevant to you?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Well, I think it's quite simple. And again this is
where we had to be mindful of language. Ultimately, when
you have a strong self image, you don't give a shit.
And I think the other key thing is, you know
you can with social media today you actually have the
ability to turn your device off. You know, I'm certainly
(09:22):
not going to allow anyone else to contaminate my self
image or dictate to me. And so again part of
that is helping my clients build a strong self image
of undoubtable belief.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
How do you connect with your clients because they come
and they've never met you. I know you're a likable guy,
I know you're ten minutes. It's not difficult, but I'd
imagine there be trepidation. Oh, you know, what's this guy
going to tell me? You know, like I said, I
just want to get out and lift some weights or
whatever it is. How do you establish rapport?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I would say that it's see, this is something that
because I've done it for so long, within seconds, I
can have them very relaxed. So it's not something that
I could actually tell you. It's just something innate, just
a skill from many, many years of coaching tens of
thousands of ours.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Can I always ask you? What with the breakers? And
Basketball's always always appeal to me as a sport. I
love what basketball, my son's right into it. But watching
the top players in the world with seemingly ice in
their veins in these huge moments, seconds counting down cool hiddenness,
cool hiddenness? Can that be coached?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I think? I think the most important thing is when
you get to elite level clients, they are so curious
and eager to learn to get that edge right. So
whilst you're on that that you've nailed it. Here's a
real beautiful story. So do you remember is it is
it twenty sixteen when we won the NBA L I
(10:55):
think it was something like that, something like that, and
I remember remember a big quay put the shot up
on the buzzer.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, absolute scenes, pandemonium.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Oh mate, it was the most amazing experience right now.
I remember running a seminar for the guys. This is
sort of beginning of the season, and as we ran
through it and I finished, a big way jumps up
and he goes.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You know what you are, man, You're real, man, You're real.
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So these guys are keen to learn anything they can
to get the mental edge.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's great. That is great. While there are things and
themes that will will really help towards peak performance, are
there things that will definitely detract from it?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Ah? Yeah, Well, there's always going to be obviously navigating
your way through failure, and I think the keys to
overcoming some of the challenges is certainly having the right network.
You've got to have a support network and play and
to a certain point, people have got to take some
(11:57):
level of personal responsibilities. Responsibility an agency you know, your
stat is your choice. You know, I want to allow
someone to dictate to me. So again it's not so
much ideal so much with that in that I established
a strong self image so that it's not something that
(12:19):
comes up in the conversations and our journey together.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
How do you get your rewards? What are your biggest rewards?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, obviously you can appreciate there's a real buzz when
you have a client on TV who gets a gold
medal like Tupo, and that's really really rewarding. But there
are also times. I remember a young man who was
really struggling sort of a low self esteem, very intimidated
(12:48):
by a lot of the swimmers on the pool, and
I remember we worked together and his parents phoned me
after the event on the drive home I think they
were in Napier driving home to walk and they said,
oh my god, Dave, you won't believe what happened. He's
been working with you and we've been working for this
particular events and they say, look he peb and I went, oh,
that's great, that's what I expected. And they said, Dave,
(13:11):
he had a thirteen second PB thirteen seconds in the pool.
That's unreal. Now, he was still quite young, which is
expected that you can make big jumps, obviously, but they
hear it on the parent's voice. The only true way
to success is to help others get what they want.
(13:33):
And so I get fulfilled with this, with small events
that aren't in the book that no one else will
know except for them and the client. You know that's
special for me. Mate.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
One thing you hear a lot as well about top
athletes and top performers across all industries is that they
always want to learn more. Yeah, you feel that way
as well.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Absolutely, they're incredibly curious. And I've always said to the guys, look,
you come and see me, but don't make it one dimensional.
I want education should be on the continuant for the
rest of your life. You should be educating yourself. I
think things may change as you mature as an athlete
and come to your end of your career. Your education
may be in the next phase of your life. But
(14:13):
education education by definition. I'm not saying you have to
get a university degree, but you should be constantly learning.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
That's the existentialist to me, mate. You know, I believe
with thrown in this world, let's extract as much as
we can out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So you're still learning, oh absolute In fact here I am.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I don't know. In the book you might read I
left school at sixteen with no qualifications. In fact, my
school see English exam. I wrote my name, put the
pen down, and after half an hour were allowed to go.
So I passed off to a rugby game that was
more important for me at the time, and I didn't
have any belief in myself. I am currently now doing
(14:54):
a degree in philosophy and psychology, and I'm proud to
say from a man who left school with no qualifications,
I've been getting a's in my philosophy papers, which is
my passion.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's brilliant. You worked with Jack o' gill. Yeah, do
you reckon he'll be sick at the Olympics? You reckon
he'll be happy, satisfied.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
But he won't be satisfied at all. No, I know,
but he'll He's the sort of guy where he also
knows about the long game. He knows there's a lot
of work to be done. He's come a long way
and and he's got a massive Him and David Letty
I had I had a little session with Dave. This
(15:34):
is probably going back about five years and I said
to him, if I think it was a Commonwealth games,
I made a bet with him. I said, mate, if you,
if you, if you, if you win it, I'll buy you.
I'll buy your lunch.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's expensive, so he mate, I'll tell you. So we
go to the pub. We're having a pub.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That we have the entree maine and dessert and the
lady comes in and says there anything else, and he
and Dave goes, yeah, I'll have the same again.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Please far that guy. Two entrees, two mates and two
desserts cost me hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
David Yomi, Mate.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
H so good, so good. I feel like we could
talk for hours. David neath the The Winning Mindset Successful
Strategies for Sport, Business and Life. So I guess we'll
be waiting for your philosophy book next.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, that's the gay. That sounds great. Good suggestion, Mabe.
I'll go with that.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'll pass it on to HarperCollins. Good to see you, mate,
great to meet you. Thanks for popping in for a chat.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Thank you so much. Mate.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
That is David neath The Yeah. Check the book out
it as a cracker. The Winning Mindset Successful strategies for sport,
business and life Israel Alasania says these methods sharpened my
focus Lydia Co David helped me in my pursuit of
World number one some pretty good endorsements.
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Book arrived on my desk this week. Called The Winning
Mindset Successful Strategies for Sport, Business and Life. It's written
by David Neathi, one of New Zealand's leading mental performance coaches.
He's worked across business and sport to help enable peak
performance in the sporting world. Among those he's worked with
are city kickboxing fighters Israel Adasanya and Kaikara France. He's
(00:34):
also worked with golfers Lydia coh and Michael Hendry, the
New Zealand breakers Jack O'Gill, and several other Commonwealth Games
and Olympic athletes. He's also got the same haircut as
Meat was keen to get him in David Neathy, how
are you.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I'm great, mate, Thanks so much for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Your seminars usually include the phrase language may offend. Do
we need to be careful here? No, we might have
to be a little bit careful, but we'll be reserved today.
Great to see him make congratulations on the book. Is
this your first book?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
This is my first book. In fact, it was unexpected.
It was HarperCollins approached me and asked if i'd be
keen and just to say the least, it wasn't. It
wasn't something that was actually planned. But yeah, here it is.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
It speaks, or actually I think that's a right phrase.
It feels like the book is speaking, and now that
I've met you, it feels like it's speaking in your voice.
Is that was that the intent that you wanted? You
wanted it to be kind of really?
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, I tell you I had all. I will admit
I did have some help obviously with net McCloy, who
was my ghost writer, and she she said, look, Dave,
you you've got a personality and idea. We want to
sort of bring that across. So she she sort of
structured it that way. And obviously, you know, the other
(01:47):
person that really helped a lot was the wife, my wife, Joe.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
It's off on the case. Yeah, I can say from experience, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I had a lot. I had a lot on my plate,
and you know, I felt like, you know, we we
didn't have we didn't have a lot of time. But
Nick did a fantastic job.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
What are some of the central themes of the book.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I think if we talk about just overcoming fear, talking
about building and strategies on how to navigate your way
through the challenges of that. You know, how do we
get into peak performance? How do we overcome fair? How
do I become the best version of myself? And the
whole books about strategies are in overcoming.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
One central question of the book is, and it's written
across the back and read letters, what would you do
if you knew you couldn't fail? How prevalent are feelings
or fears of failure in top athletes.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I think you'll find that progressively as they get condition
for top quality competitions. The nerves it's no different from
a golfer on a Sunday game worrying about the hit
in the first shot are But these high performance athletes
(03:09):
are well conditioned. They've had tens, if not decades of
hard work, so they're kind of used to it.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And failure is inevitable on any journey, especially to the
very top, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
It's on the journey to success you are going to
pass through failure many times.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
What are the keys to dealing with.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It, reframing it and understanding this? The fundamental thing here
is that there is no such thing as failure. There's
only learning.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
What I say in the book is if you can
preserve the learnings and let go of the negative emotions,
you then develop and build a strong self image so
that you can navigate continuously on the path to your goals.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
It's hard, though, wasn't it, Because at the time when
things don't go your way. I'm not just talking elite
athletes or very successful business people, but all of us.
We all have moments in our life when going, yeah,
that hasn't gone the way I hope. You feel embarrassed,
you feel like you let people down, you feel disappointed.
How can you separate all of those emotions and try
and take out the lessons?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, I think that's probably where you sort of want
to have someone or a support network that can help
navigate and create those conversations to extract from that, you know,
the key learnings. I mean, this is why you know,
sports psychologists mental performance coaches are so vital today in
the world. I mean, it's a growing industry.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
You've touched on a really interesting point that I was
going to ask you about. How has the attitude towards
coaching mental performance changed and you've been doing it three decades? Yeah,
what was it like what was.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Luck when you started and nowadays, you know, if you
kind of learned from senior members around you or your coaches.
And certainly I want to make this sort of clear
in the contents of what I do. I work with
high performance. I don't do mental health. So I think
(05:03):
there's a lot more self awareness of mental health issues
and having the right people around them to support that.
But when it comes to high performance, that's a very
specialist field. That's where I sit.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
And so when you started, was it was there still
some what we thirty years ago ninety four? Was there
a bit of suspicion still around about about you know,
coaching mental performance? Just getutther and lift some more weights,
will you?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, the old sort of tea spurn or concrete and
harden up, mate. I mean, but I was very much
that blue collar worker who was brought up in that environment,
which to a certain point, you know, there's some bloody
truth in that. You know, whether you like it or not,
you kind of have to harden the pep up if
you really true you want to overcome. So it's about
(05:49):
facing those fares. But ideally, you know, when we have
that sort of harden up narrative. It's it's it's not
really it's frowned upon. But I will tell you, you know,
working with a lot of my clients, I absolutely challenged
them to understand and to face that fair Carl Jung
said this, we're fear lies. There's your task.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Love that. Love that David neath, he's our guest. The
winning mindset is the book. You've worked with kickboxes like
Israel Adisanya and golfers like lydia Coe. They could hardly
be more diametrically opposite in terms of what is needed
for success. I mean, lydia Co's got to be utterly
relaxed before she approaches every shot. I don't know about kickboxing,
(06:33):
but i'd imagine you have to be fairly hyped up
to get in the octagon to start with.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, it's actually not the case at all being hyped up.
I mean, in the book, I took about the performance
window and ideally the difference something with kickboxing. It's not
about reacting, it's about responding, and you have to have
a calm mind to be able to anticipate the movement.
(07:02):
So what I get with a lot of feedback with
the guys is when I talk about getting into that state.
The feedback is often it's like I'm half a second
ahead of my opponent and that's a beautiful place to be. Now,
as far as Livia's concerned, I think the one thing
that makes God very challenging is that you have time
(07:22):
to think, and that thinking can very quickly contaminate.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
Yes, so because I think you're right, you off and
hear about the heat of the moment or somebody doing
something spontaneously. You can't reallydo that in golf, can You've
got far too much time to think about it.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah. Yeah, And you've got to be able to manage yourself.
I mean, you hit the ball two hundred and twenty
meters down the fairway, You've got time to think or
reflect about the last hole where you boged whatever. And
these these thoughts can actually contaminate the self image. It
can actually affect the neurology and have an impact on
(07:58):
your ability to stay in the now, which is so
so important for high performance athletes.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So there are general of course that apply across goals,
specially boxing and everything in between them.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Absolutely one is absolutely self awareness, absolutely understanding through conscious
awareness on the state that you're in and understanding is
this state contributing or contaminating the moment that you can
because fundamentally you cannot change anything you don't first recognize.
So you recognize, hey, this is not helping me. I
(08:31):
give them a toolbox or a performance mental performance toolbox
of things that they can use to get them back
into state.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I want to ask you about outside noise, which is
now more prevalent than ever. Anybody with an Internet connection
and a smartphone can make you know, can post an
opinion about anybody. Someone's probably listening to us and firing
something off right now. They want if they want to,
how important is it and how can you block out
noise that is irrelevant to you?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Well, I think it's quite simple. And again this is
where we had to be mindful of language. Ultimately, when
you have a strong self image, you don't give a shit.
And I think the other key thing is, you know
you can with social media today you actually have the
ability to turn your device off. You know, I'm certainly
(09:22):
not going to allow anyone else to contaminate my self
image or dictate to me. And so again part of
that is helping my clients build a strong self image
of undoubtable belief.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
How do you connect with your clients because they come
and they've never met you. I know you're a likable guy,
I know you're ten minutes. It's not difficult, but I'd
imagine there be trepidation. Oh, you know, what's this guy
going to tell me? You know, like I said, I
just want to get out and lift some weights or
whatever it is. How do you establish rapport?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
I would say that it's see, this is something that
because I've done it for so long, within seconds, I
can have them very relaxed. So it's not something that
I could actually tell you. It's just something innate, just
a skill from many, many years of coaching tens of
thousands of ours.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Can I always ask you? What with the breakers? And
Basketball's always always appeal to me as a sport. I
love what basketball, my son's right into it. But watching
the top players in the world with seemingly ice in
their veins in these huge moments, seconds counting down cool hiddenness,
cool hiddenness? Can that be coached?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I think? I think the most important thing is when
you get to elite level clients, they are so curious
and eager to learn to get that edge right. So
whilst you're on that that you've nailed it. Here's a
real beautiful story. So do you remember is it is
it twenty sixteen when we won the NBA L I
(10:55):
think it was something like that, something like that, and
I remember remember a big quay put the shot up
on the buzzer.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah, absolute scenes, pandemonium.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Oh mate, it was the most amazing experience right now.
I remember running a seminar for the guys. This is
sort of beginning of the season, and as we ran
through it and I finished, a big way jumps up
and he goes.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
You know what you are, man, You're real, man, You're real.
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So these guys are keen to learn anything they can
to get the mental edge.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's great. That is great. While there are things and
themes that will will really help towards peak performance, are
there things that will definitely detract from it?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Ah? Yeah, Well, there's always going to be obviously navigating
your way through failure, and I think the keys to
overcoming some of the challenges is certainly having the right network.
You've got to have a support network and play and
to a certain point, people have got to take some
(11:57):
level of personal responsibilities. Responsibility an agency you know, your
stat is your choice. You know, I want to allow
someone to dictate to me. So again it's not so
much ideal so much with that in that I established
a strong self image so that it's not something that
(12:19):
comes up in the conversations and our journey together.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
How do you get your rewards? What are your biggest rewards?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well, obviously you can appreciate there's a real buzz when
you have a client on TV who gets a gold
medal like Tupo, and that's really really rewarding. But there
are also times. I remember a young man who was
really struggling sort of a low self esteem, very intimidated
(12:48):
by a lot of the swimmers on the pool, and
I remember we worked together and his parents phoned me
after the event on the drive home I think they
were in Napier driving home to walk and they said,
oh my god, Dave, you won't believe what happened. He's
been working with you and we've been working for this
particular events and they say, look he peb and I went, oh,
that's great, that's what I expected. And they said, Dave,
(13:11):
he had a thirteen second PB thirteen seconds in the pool.
That's unreal. Now, he was still quite young, which is
expected that you can make big jumps, obviously, but they
hear it on the parent's voice. The only true way
to success is to help others get what they want.
(13:33):
And so I get fulfilled with this, with small events
that aren't in the book that no one else will
know except for them and the client. You know that's
special for me. Mate.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
One thing you hear a lot as well about top
athletes and top performers across all industries is that they
always want to learn more. Yeah, you feel that way
as well.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Absolutely, they're incredibly curious. And I've always said to the guys, look,
you come and see me, but don't make it one dimensional.
I want education should be on the continuant for the
rest of your life. You should be educating yourself. I
think things may change as you mature as an athlete
and come to your end of your career. Your education
may be in the next phase of your life. But
(14:13):
education education by definition. I'm not saying you have to
get a university degree, but you should be constantly learning.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
That's the existentialist to me, mate. You know, I believe
with thrown in this world, let's extract as much as
we can out of it.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
So you're still learning, oh absolute In fact here I am.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
I don't know. In the book you might read I
left school at sixteen with no qualifications. In fact, my
school see English exam. I wrote my name, put the
pen down, and after half an hour were allowed to go.
So I passed off to a rugby game that was
more important for me at the time, and I didn't
have any belief in myself. I am currently now doing
(14:54):
a degree in philosophy and psychology, and I'm proud to
say from a man who left school with no qualifications,
I've been getting a's in my philosophy papers, which is
my passion.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's brilliant. You worked with Jack o' gill. Yeah, do
you reckon he'll be sick at the Olympics? You reckon
he'll be happy, satisfied.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
But he won't be satisfied at all. No, I know,
but he'll He's the sort of guy where he also
knows about the long game. He knows there's a lot
of work to be done. He's come a long way
and and he's got a massive Him and David Letty
I had I had a little session with Dave. This
(15:34):
is probably going back about five years and I said
to him, if I think it was a Commonwealth games,
I made a bet with him. I said, mate, if you,
if you, if you, if you win it, I'll buy you.
I'll buy your lunch.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's expensive, so he mate, I'll tell you. So we
go to the pub. We're having a pub.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
That we have the entree maine and dessert and the
lady comes in and says there anything else, and he
and Dave goes, yeah, I'll have the same again.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Please far that guy. Two entrees, two mates and two
desserts cost me hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
David Yomi, Mate.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
H so good, so good. I feel like we could
talk for hours. David neath the The Winning Mindset Successful
Strategies for Sport, Business and Life. So I guess we'll
be waiting for your philosophy book next.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, that's the gay. That sounds great. Good suggestion, Mabe.
I'll go with that.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'll pass it on to HarperCollins. Good to see you, mate,
great to meet you. Thanks for popping in for a chat.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Thank you so much. Mate.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
That is David neath The Yeah. Check the book out
it as a cracker. The Winning Mindset Successful strategies for sport,
business and life Israel Alasania says these methods sharpened my
focus Lydia Co David helped me in my pursuit of
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