Full Show Podcast: 10 August 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hello you on a good afternoon and welcome into the
Saturday edition of Weekend Sport on News Talks. HEB August tenth,
Happy birthday current or All Blacks front rower to Mighty Williams.
Happy birthday to nine game former All Blacks first five
Simon Mannox. His one and only test was the same
day Jonah Lomu debut against France and christ Church nineteen

(00:51):
ninety four. Was that really thirty years ago? Goodness? I'm
Jason Pine Show producer. I can see him there now,
Andy McDonald, Thanks for the wave.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Andy.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
We're here till three talking sport. With two days of
competition to go. Our Olympic medal tally since at fifteen
six gold, the latest to Dame Lisa Carrington and Alsia
Hoskin last night in the K two five hundred kayak domination,
domination seven silver medals, the latest to Maddie Wishy this

(01:20):
morning in the women's shot put, and a couple of
bronze as well. More on offer. You have to think
before that flame is snuffed out. Certainly tonight Dame Lisa
Carrington and Amy Fisher a chance for a gold silver
double perhaps tonight in the k won five hundred, first
time since Athens two thousand and four, when Hamish Carter

(01:42):
and Bev and Doherty were first and second. In the
men's triathlon, Lydia Coe is co leader in the golf
one round to play. She already has two Olympic medals.
There's something about the Olympics that agrees heartily with Lydia Coe.
She could well add another one tonight co leader. No
better place to be. Hamish Kerr in the men's high

(02:03):
jump final tomorrow morning. He's a big chance. More on
that this afternoon, and at the Belodrome the women's omnium
and sprint, the men's Karen and Madison still to come.
It's the all time record of twenty Olympic medals from
Tokyo actually under threat. It may well be that seemed
very unlikely, didn't it when we spoke a week ago?

(02:25):
But it's been an excellent week. Here we are fifteen
and counting. Maddie was She silver medallist in the shot
put joins us shortly to reflect on that moment. Also
today gold medalists and the women's K four five hundred.
We know Dame Lisa Carrington and Lysia Hoskin were in there.
They were in the K two last night. Olivia Brett
and Tara Vaughan were the other two. Going to catch

(02:47):
up with them. Bronze medallists in sailing's mixed multi hull
race Michael Wilkinson Erica Dawson on the show. Plus one
of our best ever high jumpers, Roger Tippooni, will join
us after two on Hamish Kurz chances for gold tomorrow morning.
He's a real student of track field, is Roger Tapooni.
He'll give us his insight into what Hamish Kurr has

(03:10):
to do to win high jump gold in weather. He
thinks he's a chance to do it, and I want
to hear from you as well as we enter the
last two days of competition. What stood out anything at all? Look,
I've watched a lot of Olympic Games over the last
two weeks. It's pretty much been all I've done to
be fair, anything that stood out, anything that caught your eye,
anything you want to yarn about. Let's just open the
lines on it. Shall we chat about anything? Olympic Games focus.

(03:32):
We can narrow it down a bit. Is there any
doubt now about our Olympic goat the greatest of all time?
Seven gold medals for Lisa Carrington now eight in total.
Of course, nobody's ever going to catch Dame Sophie Pasco.
Of course they're not. Nineteen medals at Paralympic Games, including

(03:53):
eleven golds for Dame Sophie Pasco. No one's ever going
to catch that. It's by far and away the top
of the tree as far as our Olympians are concerned.
But Dame Lisa Carrington, with the way she's dominated over
the last what is it now twelve years? You want
her first gold medal in London twenty twelve. Her utter
consistency and her ability to in all sorts of different

(04:17):
boats just do over and over and over again what's required.
Has her right at the top of the tree, doesn't it.
More on Dame Lesson and Alessia Hoskin and the K four,
the K two, the K one, to come this afternoon. Now,
in case you've forgotten in all of this, the Rugby
Championship is under way tonight the All Blacks take on
Argentina and Wellington. Full commentary here on News Talks. He'd

(04:38):
be from seven. Our build up starts at six. Peter A. Latini,
former All Blacks midfielder, on that after one. Your thoughts
too on this as I feel like it's again I've
been completely immersed in the Olympic Games, but I feel
like this has slipped under the radar somewhat. I'm sure
it won't be under the radar when seven o'clock arrives,

(04:58):
and I know you'll have some thoughts tomorrow. You might
have some thoughts today about certain aspects of that game.
Other matters around the Hamilton Darts Masters come up next weekend.
Among those coming world number one Luke Humphries. He's on
the show this afternoon. Adam Peacock out of Australia as well.
Is this there greatest ever Olympic Games? Forty eight medals
for Australia, including I think it's eighteen gold. They don't

(05:19):
have to be right up there, wouldn't it. Live Sport
this afternoon Farah, Palmer Capp Counties, Manco and Canterbury. Just
underway in Pokakoe. So too are Wellington and Tasman and
pottydoer Waycato against Bay of plenty five past two in
Hamilton and of the Bunnings MPC Canterbury against Northland five
past two in christ Church, Southland against Otago same time
in the cargo. Keep you updated on those, Please join

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Thirteen past midday.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
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Speaker 2 (06:01):
Here is was she final throw into her work that
shoots as well? We wait, we watch but twice now
she's responded Maddie Wishy or has she no? Is the answer?
Nineteen six eight on First Look A Look Big but
not big enough? Maddi Wishy win silver and the women's

(06:27):
shotput and she is New Zealand's new shot put queen
on the podium. Shot Maddie has silver for Maddi Wishy
in the shot put this morning, she led up until
round five when the eventual gold middleist out of Germany
threw further than her. She pulled out the personal best
and then it was the German athlete again who threw

(06:48):
twenty meters. Maddi wish she not quite able to reach
that mark, but silver it is and a new personal best.
Let's bring in Maddie Wishy. How are you feeling a
silver PB? With a few hours of reflection.

Speaker 4 (07:03):
I'm pretty happy, you know. I like this feeling a
throwing a pabe at the Olympics and getting a sumer metal,
though I would have liked the gold. Yeah, these are
the moments, These are the reasons why I do the sport,
being in such high and intense moments and such a
competitive field, and in Paris at the Olympics. Yeah, it's

(07:24):
a bit surreal right now.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Did you think you'd won it with your nineteen eighty six?

Speaker 5 (07:30):
I didn't, you know.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
I going into this predictions with that woman's shot, we're
going to be one with the twenty meters, so I
knew that someone was going to pop think big and
knew me was the one to do it, and unfortunately
I couldn't pull through in the end.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
But what an incredible was the fifth round, wasn't it?
She threw it out there and said, hey, laid down
the challenge for you. You pulled out the big nineteen
eighty six. Well, can you just reflect on that moment
for us?

Speaker 4 (07:56):
I had a bit of nerves going into that fifth throw,
knowing that you know, I kin'd of been pipped and
I needed to get my spot back. Yeah, it's kind
of muscle. Mean, we took over and training worked and yeah,
and here we are.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
I was going to ask about that. How much did
you rely on your prep and trust your processes today?

Speaker 6 (08:20):
One hundred percent?

Speaker 4 (08:21):
The whole way through was me trusting the process. My
team worked so hard to get me on this big
stage and help me achieve some pretty big dreams. And
yeah it was it was all trust the process and
training had been going well and qualifiers work to get
the big Q was good confidence. So yeah, it was
this is everything is prep work.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, smashing out the nineteen two five to automatically qualify.
How pleased were you to be able to do that? Yesterday?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Super happy to be able to get the big Q
and qualifications my first big Q. Usually I'm down at
the bottom of the ranks, and then in the finals
I'm kind of suck in the lower part of top eight.
And so to be amongst the top girls and such
a competitive time and Woman's Shop put yeap super shruped.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
You always look so relaxed, Maddy. Is that part of
your secret?

Speaker 5 (09:14):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
I think it's just a part of who I am.
I try not to take things too seriously and at
the end of the day, this is just sport and
there's a lot of things that are bigger than this.
So to be able to do my passion and to
travel the world, yepn't can't be too stressed and can't
be too big headed about anything.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well, I mean the other part is that you encourage
the other throwers as well. I don't think I've ever
seen that you're you're geeing up those who are who
you're you're throwing against. It's an incredible thing that you do.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
We were all doing it. It wasn't just me, and
that's at every single competition, we're all cheering for each other.

Speaker 7 (09:53):
Beat.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
You do your best and then you can beat the best,
and then that's a great competition. And that's why women's
shot put at the moment is so competitive. And not
only are they amazing people, but they make the infield
so much and so much more joy when we can
both banta and compete as strong, powerful woman.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Where do you assess with that we're shot putters right now?
Are we looking at some twenty one twenty two's in
the not too distant future?

Speaker 8 (10:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (10:19):
I reckon.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
We've got so many women on the cusp of twenty
one meters and once you're at twenty one, then you're
twenty two, and then the world records and the the arena,
So why not?

Speaker 5 (10:29):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (10:30):
And no lucky sunglasses needed today? But was at the start?

Speaker 10 (10:33):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Was that challenging? Was that challenging?

Speaker 4 (10:36):
And the first though it was a little bit, I
didn't grab my footing as I'd like to. But living
in Auckland and training at Whittak, there's weather changes within
five minutes, so I was prepared for the wet and
the slippery circle. So it wasn't that much of a
hassle or or a mind kind of block.

Speaker 11 (10:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
I just trusted the process again and knew what I
need to do and.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Just to finish I know I read that, Yeah you've
got basically well, I don't if it's all your family,
but you had to hire a lot of dogs that
has back here too to look after your dogs because
everybody was going to be emparwissed. Did you feel your
family support today?

Speaker 6 (11:14):
I did.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Saw my sisters and in the front row, and I
could I was laughing and sharing with them along with
the whole competition. So to be able to see them
in the stands and for them to be here as
huge and I wouldn't be able to do this without
my team. And yeah, I definitely missed my dogs and
I've still got a few more comps to go. I
am excited to go home and see my bulldog.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Well you've added superbly to the tremendous legacy and shotput
for New Zealand, Maddie. Everyone back here was just just
enthralled watching you throw at breakfast time out of time. Congratulations,
Thank you so much for taking the time for a chat.
Thank you, Thanks Maddie Madison Lee Wishi.

Speaker 11 (11:52):
There a.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
New star of shot put. Yeah, I just I was.
I was enthralled watching that this morning and just the
way that she carries herself. Maddie Wish she you know,
she's just so relaxed, so key. We I love it him.
And maybe that is part of the secret that if
you do get too intense and you start really, you know,
tying yourself up in knots, maybe that's where things all

(12:17):
fall apart. That certainly didn't look to be the case
with Maddi Wishy this morning. Delighted to see her pick
up a medal and continue the amazing record that Dame
Valerie Adams had medals in two thousand and eight, twenty twelve,
twenty sixteen, and in twenty twenty one, and now Maddie
Wishy as well. So somebody said earlier in the week
to me when Tom Walsh and Jack O'Gill didn't get

(12:39):
on the podium in the men's shop port, oh, it's
going to be the first Olympics for a while. We
haven't had somebody on the shop pot part in me.
I said, hey, don't forget about Maddi Wishy. Am I
going to say that now? Hindsight it's a wonderful thing,
but man, how good? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
The only thing about this morning. The final throw of
Maddi wishy. I thought it had gone out to twenty meters.

(13:01):
I don't It was the angle of the camera when
she threw it, because we knew that the German who
won the who won it, had thrown exactly twenty meters,
and there was the tape on the ground that showed
you that showed you that that where the twenty meter
mark was when she threw it out. I was certain

(13:23):
it had gone beyond twenty meters just from the camera angle.
I just got a text her about that from Brett Jason.
Was Maddy robbed in the shot put? I know the
camera work wasn't great, but her last throw was clearly
more than nineteen sixt eight. It looked much closer to twenty,
while the Germans one looked short of twenty. Brett, I'm
almost positive that the measurements are right. It just looked.

(13:46):
I just got quite excited when I saw that last
throw because with her fifth throw she had to go
past what the German competitor had thrown. With her fifth throw,
she'd taken the gold medal position. All of a sudden
outcomes Maddie wish she and throws this huge personal best
and goes back into the lead. But yeah, not to be.
But I just was enthralled by it, absolutely enthralled by

(14:08):
it as I will be, I'm sure by Hamish Kerr
in the high jump tomorrow. I see his favorite at
the tab Interesting, Phil says, what a refreshing young lady.
Meddi is a beautiful simple attitude. Congrats to her. Totally agree,
he answers. On the golf, how easy is that course?
And the third round of women yesterday, I believe there
were six eagles on the eighteenth. Six eagles come on,

(14:31):
says Ian, so many high irons onto the green for
the second shot, And I sort of agree. I know
there were a lot of red numbers when the men played,
but it was I think the first day of the
women's golf. It wasn't that way. They are starting to
shoot lower numbers now. Yeah, I guess you know, you

(14:52):
play what's in front of you, don't you. But yep,
I mean I just hope that Lydia can continue along
the path that she's going. Go Lydia, co see is
this one a bit of train spotting? Says Dave My
Olympic Highlights, Sidney McLaughlin Levroni winning the four hundred meter
hurdles by ten meters, just her sixth world record. Just quietly,
have you en't seen it? Worth the watch?

Speaker 11 (15:13):
Dave?

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I have seen it? Did watch it? Watched Sydney McLaughlin
Livroni win that by daylight?

Speaker 12 (15:19):
Ah right?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty. What stood out for you?
Where does Dame Lisa Carrington now sit among our great Olympians?
Certainly by weight of medals, she's near the top, isn't
She has to be seven golds and a bronze eight total,
another one probably tonight. You'd have to think she'll come
home in the first three in that K one final,

(15:40):
got the semi final, first of coals. Where does she
sit among our greats? When you think of Ferguson and McDonald,
when think of Peter Snell, do you think of some
Mark Todd and others? Where's Dame Lisa right up there?
Right right up there? Twelve twenty three news talks. They'd
be back with some of your calls after this.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
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Speaker 2 (16:05):
Be yes news talks, heeps coming through on text, lots
of different, lots of different thoughts on different stuff. I
love it as a real Smaugas board this afternoon. A
great win for the Wellington lines over Auckland last night,
says Michael. Yeah, I agree. I didn't want to gloat
too much about that, Michael, but yes, I thought it
was a very good win by the Wellington Lions. Muss

(16:26):
says they finally pretty disappointed in new Wellingtonians not selling
out an All Blacks test. Is it that cold, miserable
stadium maybe, or even the Olympics where all our attention
has been for two weeks. I don't know, Muss. You
know I was thinking about this yesterday, and with all
due respect to Argentina, there is another test later in

(16:46):
the year where the All Blacks play Australia, and I
led Uslow Cup Test in Wellington, and I get the
feeling of somebody had to make a call between one
or the other. They might choose the Australian Test. Things
are type for a lot of people at the moment,
you know, tickets ain't cheap, food and travel and all
the other things that go with it. Not cheap, but yeah,

(17:07):
I would have liked for it to have been a
little bit more heavily populated. I heard I heard yesterday.
I think it was twenty five thousand. That is low.
That's low for an all Blacks test. What's the weather
like in Wellington today? Normally I could tell you myself
that I'm in Auckland at the moment, so you know
on Wellington. Just give us an idea of the forecast
or the current conditions, Like if you were going to

(17:28):
walk up tonight, would the weather be conducive to that?
Nine two ninety two. Someone Glean says, someone needs to
tell the crowd not to clap everything at the Gulf.
Clapping a triple bogey isn't a good look, Thanks, Glenn.
I think they're offering encouragement. Phil, Rhythmic gymnastics has been
top of your mind.

Speaker 13 (17:50):
Well, you're just just on the down low pointing. We
don't want too many people to know, you.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Know, well, I mean, well Tony, it's Tony, you and
I chatting Phil. There might be the odd person listening in,
you know, oh his cross fingers.

Speaker 13 (18:04):
No, No, I was watching the the Olympics last night
and I was just watching what was on, you know,
and the old rhythmic gymestics come on and I started
watching it and I just kept watching it because I
just I was just blowing away by the skill of
these women, you know, that these poor women, and they're
doing this routine to this music, and they're throwing these

(18:27):
ribbons away up in the air and these and these balls,
and they're catching them, you know, half way across from
one side to the other of the mat sort of thing,
and they're catching them in their feet, you know, behind
their back without looking. And I'm just sitting there thinking,
Jesus Christ, this is amazing.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
They are amazing, Phil They are amazing. And yeah, I'm
the same with those because they've got the ball, haven't they,
and the hoop and the and what are the things
called that they don't like tenpin bowling pins that they
throw up. That's probably not the name for them. But
you're right, they hardly ever dropped them, do they?

Speaker 14 (19:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (19:01):
Not very often? Like last night there was a I
think there was the little stuff by one or two,
but on the whole, you know, like ninety one percent
of the time they caught them. And I thrown these
things all way up in the air, and I just thought,
you know, if you just sort of if you just
think about how hard it is just to throw something
and catch something just normally, you know, I just yeah,

(19:24):
I just thought, I've got a whole new appreciation for
this does just blow me away. But even there was
one girl that even at the start at the routine,
she actually injured herself, like twisted her ankle or something
like that, but she carried on as best she couldn't
done the whole completed the whole routine, and if you
didn't see that she had injured herself, you know, it

(19:46):
would have been hard to even know that she had
injured herself. But you know, that's got some toughness there
when she's fighting carrying on and she doesn't let the
team down, but she's fighting through the pain of an
injury that she's just got. But yeah, I just yeah,
I just I was just blowing away, you know, by
that skill level.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
But yeah, it's just one of many things that have
blown me away these last two weeks. Felt I have
to say, you know, the incredible skill not just in
sports like the gymnastics, but even things like the canoe
kayak cross with the way that they You know, they
go down the river and turn back up again and
just maneuver themselves around in the white water rapids. I mean,

(20:27):
most of us would would find it difficult to stay
upright on flat water, let alone, you know, those rushing
rapids and then trying to turn back up stream and
at the same time battle against other kayaks that are there.
There are so many sports that just have an incredible
amount of score. The sport climbing has anybody has anybody
been watching the climbing that is unbelievable to get upper wall,

(20:54):
a fifteen meter wall and what was it four point
seven seconds? Most of us can't run fifteen meters on
the flat in four point seven seconds. Here these guys
are climbing up the water. Who had a great descript
from one of our commentators, Andrew Alderson. He said they're
like demented spiders, and he meant it in a good way,

(21:15):
means it in a very good way. But they are incredible,
and that has that's been a sport that has just
captured the imagination. It's been sold out every day because
there's a speed climbing and then the other one's called
the bouldering. When They've got to sort of work their
way round a wall with lots of different sort of
footholds and obstacles, and they sort of climbed their way round.

(21:36):
But the speed climbing just utterly incredible, how quick they
can get up. Magnificent stuff. Wheather's fine and upper heart pinty.
Condition should be good for the game Wellington where this
is Michael twelve tonight, it's seventh the moment partly cloudy
with a shower or two until late afternoon. Southerly's dying
out this afternoon. Michael, that sounds like you've gone to
the met service website. It's good though the stadium's not cold,

(21:56):
says Peter. Stupid comment. Wellington has a better weather the
record for rugby than Auckland, christ Church and to Eden.
Thank you, Peter. I'm a walk up for the rugby,
says Andy. Looks good tonight, so why not going to
cruise down from the carpety coast although there is a
type of hair and it says the cavity coast, but
I think you mean the carpety coast. Come here and
Willie says, Andrea can't wait. Should be good conditions. We're

(22:17):
the good for the cakes and breezy. But Sonny says
this one whether it's fine in Wellington. I'm just trying
to read these as I'm on the air. Am I
chatting to Am I chatting to Willie. No, no, okay,
will he's just called to have a chatter Andy, which
he does occasionally. I've been loving the Olympics, says this one.

(22:39):
But there's definitely something special about seeing the golden moments
live rather than on catch up. Yeah, it is difficult
when they're at rather uncivilized hours. Although the kayaking last
night was sort of mid evening, wasn't it? And then
Maddie was she this morning was a little bit earlier.
Lisa Carrington's amazing, says Helen. But you can't you can't

(23:00):
use the number of medals as a guide. She gets
to compete in multiple events. Others are one and done. Yeah,
it's an interesting argument that that she is in multiple
different different events, because I think there was one Olympics
where she was in four was it the last one?

(23:22):
K one two hundred, which is no longer there K
one five hundred, K two five hundred, K four five hundred,
so she had four chances last time. You still got
to win the medals, they don't you, and they dominated
last night. Those two they are.

Speaker 15 (23:34):
Six meters ahead. Oh, they're flying the Kiwi crew. There
is no stopping Charrington and Hoskin. They are heading for
the finish line and they are miles ahead of the opposition.
Charrington and Hoskin a boat length and a.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Half lead New Zealand Gold.

Speaker 15 (23:58):
Two golds in two days for the Dynamic Duo and
the legacy of goat in the boat just gets bigger
by the race.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Here are some thoughts of the Dynamic Duo afterwards Alicia Hoskin.
First of all, how did they pull out such a
dominant win?

Speaker 16 (24:17):
Yeah, I guess we went in with a plan, We
went in with a strategy, and we just had to
put a lot of trust in that and a lot
of trust.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
In each other.

Speaker 16 (24:25):
So all that was going through my head was just trust, trust,
stay calm, stay calm, trust our process and our preparation.
So yeah, when it came to the back end, our
body started hurting and the water is super bouncy at
the back end, So we were just really putting a
lot of trust in our technique and our preparation, and yeah,
a lot of heart went into that had a really

(24:45):
good time together.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
And what about Dame Lisa Carrington? What made the performance
so dominant for her?

Speaker 6 (24:51):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 17 (24:51):
That's what's amazing about the K two I think is that,
you know, we just had a plan.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
We just stuck to our strategy.

Speaker 17 (24:59):
Our strengths, and I guess at the end of the day,
it's kind of the performance that we can put together
and and I guess the field is there to help
push us. But it was just amazing that we could
pull out that performance and under pressure, meeting the moment
and making sure that we did everything we could to
make it the best race possible.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
Patty says Piney, how can you even talk the hours
you've done over the games. Well, some would argue that regardless,
if I've had a decent night's sleep, Patty would still
be the same. I have enjoyed it, though started to
run on fumes a little bit, But as long as
you get a sleeping at some stage, you're okay. Glenn says,
I'm wondering if anyone else thought as I did that
our shop put to Maddie wish she threw over twenty

(25:39):
with her last throw, and that the person measured it
from the wrong dent in the ground. Glenn, I'm sure
that's not true. I'm almost positive that that is not
the case. These officials are there. I just think it's
the camera angle. I think it's a really bad angle
on Maddie Wishy's last throw. You know, I'd like to

(26:00):
think that there was something greater at play here, but
because because when she threw it and when the camp
went from her throwing it to where it landed. Like
I say, it's just a bad angle. It looks as
though it's gone twenty meters. I thought it had, but
as it turned out, what nineteen sixty eight? Yeah, Look,
the officials are there on the ground. I'm pretty sure

(26:21):
they're not measuring the wrong dent, and if they were,
I'm fairly sure that somebody from the New Zealand team
would point that out to them. Dave, She's pony. To
gold medals are to golf medals count towards the Hall
of Fame points? Would a gold give Lydia the points
she needs? Dave know? Unfortunately unfortunately that's not the case. Yeah,
she needs that one more win, doesn't she to get

(26:43):
into the Golf Hall of Fame? A golf major I
think is what she needs. And no, a gold medal
does not count unfortunately, so it would just be something
which is a nice to have, not a must have.
As far as the as the Hall of Famous concerned,
Janis is Jason, I discovered bouldering this Olympics absolutely awestruck
with their ability. Janie same, And that's what the Olympics does.

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It gives you the opportunity to watch sports that you
are not familiar with, have never heard of, have never
seen done at such a high level, would normally never
make it onto our television screens or into our consciousness,
but for two weeks we all get the opportunity to
see them. I guess for the sports themselves, particularly the
New Zealand arm of them, it's a chance to capitalize

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on those extra eyeballs, you know, for sport climbing, for example,
New Zealand sport climbing. I'm sure they are must have
a strategy for capitalizing on this because everybody's just watched
it and been awe struck by it. I'm sure there
are kids who think, how do I get into that?
That looks awesome? How do I get into that? If
I'm sport climbing New Zealand. I'm out in schools, I'm

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you know, giving demonstrations and local shopping malls. I'm signing
people up to sport climbing because it is slap bang
in the middle of our consciousness right now. Twenty two
away from one Back with more after this news talk SEP.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Don't get caught up eighty eight Weekends for Us with
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Speaker 2 (28:15):
NB nineteen to one. I love this about the show
and this audience that if I make a statement which
is incorrect, I get told fantastic Gerard Jason, you're wrong.
An Olympic gold medal by Lydia tonight will give her
the points needed to qualify for the LPGA Hall of Fame,
just as it did n B Park at Rio twenty sixteen.
Just on the shot put, says Jared Our, thirty two

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centimeters short of the twenty meter line is more than
a foot and there was no way that shotput was
a foot short, Jason, LPGA Hall of Fame. One point
is enough. Great, terrific. Well, that's great. I was under
the misapprehension this whole time that it wasn't so double go, Lydia,
double go. What time is Dame Lisa's race tonight, Fay,

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I'll give you all of that information in a moment.
Let's get to Ian though. Are some thoughts on the
gymnastics scene.

Speaker 18 (29:04):
Yeah, that man shouldn't be in embarrassed, Jason, because I
watched a lot of that last night. It's great, fantastic athletic,
you know, isn't with these women. I can't believe it, mate,
you know, because it's just something good about them. You know,
that's just the way they go about their job and
doing all those little tricks with the ball and things,

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you know, and throwing those other things up and down.
It's just amazing. I mean, you don't have to be
embarrassed about talking about gymnastic. Oh wash, and you know,
into any sport day. I missed my game last night
because I didn't get up to the game. But Taraniki won,
so that's all right. But things otherwise are pretty good.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
How are you look? Great things? It's lovely to have
your interest. I'm doing well things. I'm enjoying the Olympics
very much, and I know what's going to happen in
a couple of days. I'm gonna I'm going to have
the I'm going to miss it. I'm going to miss it.
I'm gonna wish that was I could watch it all
over again. It has been hard on the sleep, but

(30:07):
I am going to miss it. Thanks, Ian, appreciate your call.
Gold for New Zealand and the Women's K four five hundred,
the crew of Dame Lisa Carrington, Alicia Hoskin, Olivia Brett
and Tara Vaughan. A couple of nights ago.

Speaker 15 (30:18):
It is Germany at the moment who have their bow
just in front from the New Zealanders. Carrington setting the
rhythm and the pace for her teammates and behind the
bows and now back in front for New Zealand. It's
Carrington lifting the rates, the black boat keeping its nose
in front of Germany. They can see the finish line.

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It is gold for New Zealand. It's the Women's K
four to the four and the sixth Golden Moment for Dame.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
Lisa and the others in the boat as well. Obviously
playing a massive part, Alicia Hoskin, who teamed up with
Dame Lisa and the K two, and also Olivia Brett
and Tara Vaughan, who only compete in the K four.
I spoke to both of them afterwards and asked, what
the overriding emotion Wan.

Speaker 8 (31:08):
Yeah, I think the first emotion was pride and pride
and mom.

Speaker 6 (31:13):
And also just just stoked. I think is the over
a yeah, pride and stoked.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Pride and stoked. I love it. I think that's a
great way of describing it. Would you agree, Tara, Is
it your overriding feeling right now?

Speaker 6 (31:29):
Yeah, I'd say yeah.

Speaker 8 (31:30):
I'm just so proud of these girls and the team
behind our team. It's been a big job to get
to this point, and I'm really super excited to watch
the girls race over the next couple of days.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, that must be quite cool. When you think back
to the race, Olivia, what stands out most vividly about
the race or does it just go by so fast
that actually it's a bit of a blur.

Speaker 8 (31:51):
Yeah, I think I mean what stands out the most
to me is like the whole day, how we worked
as a team. I think for us, we know our
race plan from the back of our hand, and.

Speaker 6 (32:06):
You could we could just we did it.

Speaker 8 (32:08):
We did our race plan and how we wanted to
do it, and what feeling the togetherness of the boat
as we peddled was was pretty cool. And yeah, that's
what kind of got us over the line.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
So that's kind of what stood out.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
I'm glad there was a plan because I must say,
from watching I'm not sure the Germans getting their bow
and a hit in front of you was was part
of the plan that I hadn't visage. But talk us
through how you talk us through how you pulled yourself
back in Frontara.

Speaker 8 (32:39):
Oh, well, we always know that it's possible for it's
likely that Cruis are going to come close to us
and take us at some point in the race. So
we just got to keep out of call and stay patient,
stay calm, and then we can feel least kick and
we all jump on that vanwag and I think a
little bit and just try hard as we can to

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peddle through that line in time.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Can you just give us some insight into that Love
it is Dame Lisa calling the shots at this point.
Are you just taking your lead from her?

Speaker 6 (33:15):
I think for us our race plan is so drilled
into us.

Speaker 8 (33:21):
I think we all count within the race, and there's
certain points within the race that we know exactly what's
going to happen, and we all know that when we
get to that one fifty one hundred minutes to go,
that it's about staying on that speed, staying on the power,
and Lise has that ability to stay on that power
is and it just we can all take that little

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bit of heart in the end and keep going. And
so I kind of knew that that was going to happen,
and you can feel it within the boat and it
just helps us all keep driving.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
How significant, Tara was the World championship win in Germany
last year? You became the first K four from New
Zealand male or female to win a world championship title.
How significant was that and giving you the confidence that
you could be Olympic champions as well?

Speaker 6 (34:11):
Oh, that was a really special race.

Speaker 8 (34:13):
But I guess each like over the last three years,
reboat's been getting better and the competition, the level keeps changing,
so that like that we knew that we had to
set up our game again from there if we wanted
to do well at the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Olivia, can you tell me about the emotion that you
feel when you cross the line. Are you able to
articulate that?

Speaker 6 (34:37):
Gosh, I'll try.

Speaker 8 (34:39):
I think as we were crossing over the line, because
because Lisa is really the only one who can really
see what's going on, and so I kind of just
crossed the line and had a quick look and I
could see that we were in front just from that,
And so that's that kind of just like, oh my.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Gosh kind of feeling.

Speaker 8 (35:01):
I don't know if that's an actual feeling, but that's
kind of what was going on.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
In my head.

Speaker 8 (35:08):
And yeah, I think that's when a few screens happened
and looked back to Tara and she didn't really know
what was going on.

Speaker 6 (35:16):
She had to ask if we won. So yeah, that
was a pretty that was pretty cool.

Speaker 8 (35:23):
And yeah, that feeling of it's just a surreal feeling
really and.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, well described, well described. Can I ask you both
the same question about about Dame Lisa Carrington and how
big an influence she has been on you. Maybe we
can start with you on that one, Tara.

Speaker 8 (35:42):
Yeah, well, Lisa she's an incredible person and we're so
so lucky to have her her abilities in our boat
and her experience, but also her willingness to work as
a team, and she helps us so much every day
and We've learned so much from her, Like I really
can't thank her enough. The Lisa you guys see as

(36:03):
the kayak Karen in the Lisa we she is the
person and kayaker I think is is so much more
than what is shown on the screen. And she is
one of my most amazingst friends but also an amazing teammate.
And her willingness to just share her information that she

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has and share that experience but also be humble in
her abilities is just.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
It's a gift that keeps.

Speaker 8 (36:33):
On giving, really, and she's helped us so much over
the last two and a half years. But my biggest
takeaway from Lisa is just that she's an very awesome
and caring friend.

Speaker 11 (36:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
I mean, but she's the goat, right, She is the
goat when it comes to this sort of thing. So
was it at all wasn't This is beyond question obviously,
I think was even before this Olympic Games. But was
it at all daunting for either of you when you
first met her?

Speaker 8 (37:02):
I think I think I first met her when I
was at one of the many of my first nationals
or no second nationals and cutapero and I was a
little fourteen year old and she was probably preparing for
Rio around that time.

Speaker 6 (37:20):
And yeah, she gave me a medal and I got
so excited, and I think I got a photo with her.

Speaker 8 (37:29):
But she wasn't daunting, even back then when she didn't
even know who you were. She she's kind and she
cares and I think that's what she shows and she Yeah,
I think even then I knew she was a lovely person.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
That's awesome. That is so cool. So the two of
you obviously in the K four, Dame Lisa and Alysia
involved in the K two and then Lisa of course
and the K one. So how have you negotiated the
build up making sure that you know you do you
train without the other two. How does that all work?

Speaker 8 (38:06):
Yeah, I mean it's not really up to us as
much as Gordy, our coaching, Chris. They helped guide us
and we get in all three boats often, but we've
spent a lot of time in the K four and
the build up to these games it requires quite a
bit of work. So yeah, but we've been in all

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the boats, me and Live getting the K two. We all, yeah,
we all make it all work so that we all
get the best training for the best outcome for the
whole team.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
And just to finish. Have you allowed yourself over the
last six months or so to think about what it
might be like to stand on that podium. Have you
allowed yourself that you know that vision in your mind
that that came true today?

Speaker 6 (38:49):
Uh, I can't even remember. Probably. I think there's always
the like the goals.

Speaker 8 (38:57):
And the visions, and I think as a team, our vision,
I mean we always the goal is to win, but
as vision of our team is to put the best
performance we can out there, and so and whatever that
ended up happening would be the results. But I think

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looking back over the last six months, I think just
wanting to be the best team in the world was was.

Speaker 6 (39:25):
My goal and so we our goal. Sorry so not.

Speaker 8 (39:29):
I don't think really that specific moment, but crossing the
line together was the moment I would look forward to.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
And what to like on the top of the podium.

Speaker 8 (39:40):
We had a great time up there, everyone like the
Germans and the Hungarians. They were having fun and we
could see everyone up in the crowd, so it was
just a good time.

Speaker 6 (39:49):
It was a really special moment.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Well done you two, absolutely outstanding. Everybody back here was
just riding every stroke with you guys, and like I said,
when the Germans got their bow in front, you know
we were concerned necessarily maybe just you know, just mildly,
but we always knew that the comeback was on. So
congreat relations on all your hard work paying off the
gold medal. They can never take that away from you
and for you too anyway, I know it's just the start.

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So thanks for taking the time for a chat. Enjoy
the rest of your time in Paris, and again, wonderful,
wonderful stuff from you both, and the other two as well. Awesome,
Thank you so much the usily delightful Olivia Brett and
Tara Vaughan, half of the K four five hundred gold
medal winning crew in Paris. Seven to one US TALKSB.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Analyzing every view from every angle in the sporting world
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Speaker 2 (40:41):
MB four to one. A beautiful result, says this text
from the Olympics has been to listen to the very humble,
eloquent and mega talented Kiwi athletes and their interviews. The kayakers,
the cyclists, shot putters, sailors, triathletes and rugby seven's girls
have made me feel very proud. I agree. I totally
agree with that right. I was asked before about tonight's
K one. So the semi finals start at eight thirty.

(41:02):
Amy Fisher is in semi final number one and damely
Carrington and semi final number two. So from eight thirty
and then let's say eight forty, now you've got to
be in the first two to go through to the final,
which is tonight at eleven. Those are the times you
need to remember. We'll switch our attention to All Blacks next.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
It's the only place to discuss the biggest fours issues
on and after fields.

Speaker 19 (41:27):
It's all on w James.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Ford with Jason Vaine on your home of Sport.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
What we used Talks, Welcome back into the show one
O seven. I'm going to flick our attention to the
All Blacks and the start of their Rugby Championship campaign
in just a moment five past seven tonight All Blacks Argentina, Wellington.
Our build up begins here on News Talks. He'd be
just after six for commentary with our team in Wellington.

(41:54):
Elliott Smith, Rugby editor, lead commentator Ross Bond alongside and
Matthew Buck on the sideline. So catch that tonight from
just after seven with build up from six. Peter A
Latini standing by to chat to us. I've just had
it pointed out to mean that I kind of realized,
but it's been the point's been made a couple of
times on text just how well our female Olympians are

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going in terms of the medals that we have won.
So we've got fifteen medals right by my account, ten
and a half are for women, and AND's wondering why there's
a half, And that's because the mixed multi hull bronze
medal won by Erica Dawson and Michael Wilkinson is just

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that a mixed multi hull.

Speaker 20 (42:39):
You have me worried about some sort of boxing gender
debate there for a second. No, no, no, very fair point, Piney, well.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Done, thank you. Andy. Now I'm not going to open
up that particular can of worms today, but yeah, so
you look down there and you say, okay, Well, the
male winners of medals Hayden wild silver and the triathlon,
the men's four in the rowing winning silver, in the

(43:07):
men's kayak cross and in the sailing Isaac McCarty and
Will McKenzie in the men's skiff and then of course
Michael Wilkinson as half of the mixed multi hull, so
four and a half to ten and a half. You
look at our women, Maddie Wishy the latest with shot
put silver, Lisa Carrington as part of the double and

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the four Alisha Hoskin and Tara Bretton, Tara Vaughan and
Olivia Brett in the four, Elise Andrews Women's Karen New
Zealand Women's team Sprints, New Zealand Women's Team Pursuit and
the rowing women's double skulls, women's single skulls, the twig
women's four, rugby seven's New Zealand women. Thank goodness, Thank

(43:55):
goodness for women at the Olympics. Hamish Kerr might chalk
up another one for the blokes tomorrow morning, but in
Lydia Co may well be another female medallist at the
tex Cycling that there's a there's a chance for both,
I guess. But we're going to get two more probably
tonight and the k one so you know, both women again,

(44:16):
So they are flying the flag carrying us. You might
say not that it's a competition necessary. We're all one country.
But it was an interesting point that was made ten
past one week E sort Test one of the Rugby
Championship tonight, Wellington All Blacks, Argentina, Sky Stadium, five past seven.
Let's hope it's more like this from last year's Rugby

(44:36):
World Cup. Well John over ten.

Speaker 10 (44:39):
Over halfway puts a kick it behind, chasing after it
had bounces as old John Hey.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
The sess solar Chi and less like this from two
years ago in christ Church.

Speaker 9 (44:51):
The Siren's about to go.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Argentina just need to get it into touch.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
They just need to get it out.

Speaker 11 (44:58):
Who wants to do it the bout?

Speaker 2 (44:59):
He said, I'll do it, Babus Babbas Argentina. I remember
that night in christ Church, the Pumas Pumas beating the
All Blacks for the first time. Let's bring in former
All Blacks midfield of Peter A. Latini for some analysis
of this game.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
First of all, Peter, have you assessed the first three
tests under Scott robertson this year?

Speaker 11 (45:18):
I think everyone here has made it's the path mark.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
You know.

Speaker 11 (45:21):
We didn't lose. We didn't lose, and I think it's
building nicely. I really did like that that we had
England straight off the bat. I think it's that they
were really good chess series to really you know, for
some of our boys under under Raisin, especially for Raisin
his new coaching group, to get a feel around chest rugby,
I suppose, and also the selections of group they have,

(45:44):
and then having having the opportunity to play Fiji and
San Diego with the amount of changes they made and
to get the score. So he's got a got a
good kind of complete squad across the board I suppose
of what they want so far and something to really
build on in specially tonight against Argentina and the Championship.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
When he assesses the first three tests, you know, with
reference to what hitting the Rugby Championship, Argentina, South Africa,
Australia and the end of year tour. If you look
back to those three tests, particularly the England ones, Peter,
where are the improvements you think he'll be most keen
on seeing.

Speaker 11 (46:18):
I think the biggest thing and we all know it,
it's seeing teams like England south of go around the
rush defense. I think Marsh has always spoken up out
of that we haven't gotten answer, and he's absolutely right mate,
I think the improvements is around just our skills said
that we know that we have as who are those
guys in those right places to really execute the skill

(46:38):
set there is required when we come up against rush defence,
when we come up against the high tech. So it's
really around that area, I think it, and that we
need to make sure that that we kind of firmly have.
And the other side is as as get back to
around us playing with speed, making sure that that's be's
seen our shipper for a long time. How do we

(46:59):
make sure that we keep shifting at that contact a
might speed in our skill sets to be able to
finish off tries with the with the back that we have.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
How do you used to handle the rush defense as
a midfielder.

Speaker 11 (47:11):
I think it wasn't too much of a thing with
South Africa. At times it was still the old up
and out and drust. They still gave us a little time.
But I do know it'specially with myself around rush defense
when it did happened was around my footwork. You know,
we're going to have guys to be able to as
they come through this. This is the only if we
get too square on them. Most of the time you're
going to get smoked by by those big defenders. But

(47:34):
having good footwork was was was was always to get
on the side and then being able to move and
that's probably where we just need to hopefully have and
we do have guys and that profile to be able
to get the job.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
So he's gone Jordi Barrett and Antonine Lenott Brown as
the starting midfield pair for tonight. Why do you think
he's gone that way?

Speaker 11 (47:54):
I think this there's a big probably look at the
ability to distribute to our outsides and that's probably been
a criticism of Rico after the Cup Latists and against England,
where we do have space on the outside and and
we're not getting it out to those guys. So I

(48:15):
think Leonnett Brown and obviously protact against obviously a fig
and they disrespected him. But always seeing that, how you
know how effective we can be with we've been able
to really text the inside and create space on the
outside twelve boys to finish. So I think that's where
where Leonard Brown I think, you know, we know experience

(48:36):
he is as well, so that brings another another element
to that to that change. But then also having retail
on the bench him coming back off the benches and
as an impact and we all know what he can do.
So I'm just hoping that's you know, hasn't really good
Bruco too much because he is. He's still one of
the best in New Zealan and what he does is
just you be able to go his game into what

(48:59):
Raisan is such a good one.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
It's becoming quite a quite a contestable position though, wasn't
it both of them? Well, I think Jordi Barrett's the
locked in twelve, but when you look at thirteen Rica
you Annie anteon lettat Brown and as you say, Billy
Proctor only against Fiji, of course, but I thought he
made a pretty good fist of his step up to
test Raby. What did you think?

Speaker 11 (49:16):
Yeah, I've really been impressive Billy and I've followed him
during his last couple of years and in the Canes
where he's really stood out. The skill set, has work rate.
I really love his I think that's one of although
he's got great he's got a great skill set to
get balled out wide. I've been really impressed and his
ability to defend well, it seemed to being able to

(49:39):
read those those back doors the outsidees coming through, but
also his work rate and being able to get back
in the position is off ballwark. So I'm being really
impressive with it. And I think, you know, given the
opportunity here, will port real heat in the midfield. But
again it's exactly what we're after and just throws our
depth in that position.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
One in at at first five, Damien McKenzie's got a
fourth start, so I'm pleased to see them, you know,
give him a decent crack. Have you assessed his ability
to guide the team around.

Speaker 11 (50:10):
I'm always I've always been a big fan of Demat.
I think he's he's getting Giving him these opportunities, getting
the consistent selections at ten, I think we'll only get
it better and then we that's you know, will we
need to go with. We understand his course, so we
understand his time. Again, he could get another guy that
they can be able to really derail that rush defense,

(50:34):
just with as ability to read that. So I think
he's usable passioner for me and and I look forward
to more as he goes through.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
And then I look at the locks and I know
this isn't your specialist position, but I'll be keen to
hear I begin to hear you views on the inexperience,
and there, of course no Scott Barrett for this one.
No Patrick Tuipoloto, White Lock gone, Retallic gone. So we're
to por Vait and Sam Dowry to start. Josh Lord
on the bench. I can't remember a greener locking trio
than that. Peter, should we be concerned at all about

(51:01):
that or excited by it?

Speaker 11 (51:02):
I think we should be excited. Piney, I think I
think this is where we need to get to. We
understand who have got that, but this is the opportunity
that these boys get to start against Argentina, you know,
and it's been in an older squad seet they all
made an environment right and I mean there's the only
one that's that's fealing new and he was a big

(51:23):
pass mucking CG. But I think we need to grow
these players again, the depths that we have and Locks
needs to needs to go, you know, just because we're
not saying what Lock and retalc the guns for many
years and this is an opportunity to really go their
depth and these guys, and these guys have proven again
truly super super rugby form for the last couple of

(51:44):
years that they've been really consistent the best and it's
just justat to have something. I'm glad to really step
their market. And then Ciserna all.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Right, and just a word on Argentina to finish. I
think when we look at a rugby calendar, and particularly
rugby Championship, look at South Africa two tests away going
to be tough. The Australian bled Uslow Cup games always
eye catching. Should we how should we feel about Argentina.
I mean, it wasn't that long a couple of years
they beat us on home soil for the first time.
How should we assess their threat?

Speaker 11 (52:11):
I think we should always treat them with the respect
they deserve. Like you said, you've mentioned you know it's
lost to them and home soil to the time, so
they are a sick and it's good for us. We
need to be on edge. We're home and we need
to start well in this championship. Goings for well. As
you said that those games and seven are going to
be tough and these boys will will have to be

(52:32):
prepped up. But first taking care of Argentina.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Good man, Peter always loves chatting to you mate. Have
an excellent afternoon. Thank to you piny, thank mate, No
you thank you mate. That's better. Ol Tenny, former All
Blacks midfielder some interesting thoughts. I have to admit this
one has crept up on me. The Olympics have kind
of dominated my sporting consciousness for the last two weeks.
But I love the All Blacks, most of us do
looking forward tonight, looking forward to tonight as much as

(52:56):
always look forward to All Blacks tests. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty Has the snuck up on you
as well? Has it sort of come under the radar
a little bit? I guess of the three Rugby Championship
opponents that we face, Argentina perhaps are the less glamorous
of the three, particularly when we're going to South Africa
for two massive test matches over there, the Bleddy Slow

(53:18):
Cup always you know, Trans Tasman rivalry and all that.
I'm I think I'm probably safe in saying that of
the three, Argentina are the least attractive as far as
a narrative around the Test is concerned. But I think
every test this year has its own little storylines, with
Scott Robertson and his coaching staff and his team sort

(53:39):
of finding their way selection wise, Jordi Barrett, Anton, Leonart
Brown in midfield. I don't think they've paired up before,
certainly not from the start, not that I can remember. Anyway,
it's mainly been Jordy Barrett and Ricco Yuwanni since Barrett
moved into second five. Interesting with Rico, he's he's almost

(54:01):
had the thirteen jersey, not as of right, but it's
been his really for the last what would it be
two or three years? Ever since he already decided that
he wasn't a winger anymore and it was a center
he's I think he had to convince he and Foster
of that. But then Ian Foster became a convert to
Rico Yuanni playing at center, and pretty much since you know,

(54:26):
he made that decision in his mind, Ricca Yuani was
the number one center under Ian Foster, and it would
proved to be the case for the first couple of
tests of this year as well. But now I think
there is genuine competition. There isn't there? Absolutely there is.
Billy Proctor. I know it was only FIGI I know that,
but I thought Billy Proctor had a terrific Super Rugby season.

(54:47):
Probably I think a better season than Ricco Yuan he
had for the Blues. Albeit their Blues won Super Rugby
and Rico was a big part of that. But I
think Billy Proctor shaded him as if you looked at
Okay rank the centers, I think he probably shaded him.
And obviously his All Blacks call up shows that Razor agreed.
Anton Brown always been a very good rugby player, very

(55:09):
good rugby player has not I don't think he's ever
been first choice at twelve or thirteen, but his ability
to cover both and his nouse, I think he's highly
respected within that environment. Anton Lennet Brown, and you know
that whatever you ask of him, whether it's starting at twelve,
starting at thirteen, or coming off the beach at twelve

(55:30):
or thirteen or even on the wing, he'll do whatever's required.
That is Antony Lennet Brown to a t. So to
see him start tonight. Look, he has possession of the jersey,
but it's a three horse race now for that thirteen jersey,
I think him, Rico and Billy Proctor. Would you be

(55:50):
willing to bet a large amount of money on who's
going to finish the year and the big Test matches
in the thirteen Jersey. It could be any of the
three of them. And isn't that what we want? We
want competition, you know in Alliance you worried at all
Mark about tonight.

Speaker 21 (56:12):
Nah, I just think it's gonna be a walk in
the park. Really, it's going to be a bit of
a train run. Hopefully they get a few tries and
hopefully to know. But yeah, no, I don't think they're
going to lose. I just wanted to say a farewell
to t J. Can't be the game, but yeah, it's

(56:36):
it's amazing career his head and it's good to see
him sort of go out. It would have been a
bit sad to see him go out with him.

Speaker 19 (56:43):
Last year.

Speaker 21 (56:45):
Back in the side, the All Black side sort of
one last time, probably in Wellington. And yeah, I mean
to go out of Super Rugby as the top try scorers,
the number nine put in the he might be there.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
He might be there for the All Blacks against Australia
back in August.

Speaker 21 (57:02):
Okay, try and make that game then, yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Yeah, I obviously he's we know he's leaving the Hurricanes
and he's been as you know, and as you've said,
and as I know, he's been a great servant for us,
but I don't think roy Guard's back in the mix,
although I just saw him actually put something on social
media about how his recovery's going. I left to have
a look at it to see if he's ahead of schedule,
but I think they're targeting end of your tour for
cam Royguards. So to me it feels as though TJ

(57:27):
is still well and truly in the mix for the
entire Rugby Championship, which includes the second Letter Slow Cup
Test in Wellington. So maybe we get along to that
in way Farewell.

Speaker 21 (57:36):
Oh yeah, I'd like to have the chance to do that.
Just on the Olympics, you know, Lidia co it's incredible really,
you know, I was just reading looking at the Hall
of Fame thing and she won her first LPGA tournament
at fifteen, number one at seventeen and probably going to
retire twenty seven. So wonder it's not a bit sporting

(57:58):
career really.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
No, And that's I think we forget Mark, thanks for
your corn, mate, I think we forget that how long
she's been around for and how early she started, As
you say, she's only she's not thirty yet, and she's
had this incredible career which is going to end up
with her in the Hall of Fame because she started
so young, and I remember, going way back when she
first started and she was so successful, people said, you know,

(58:20):
she could be anything she wants, and she's become incredibly successful,
incredibly successful. You know, there have been times during the
during the last decade or so when you know, she's
had peaks and tross but who hasn't. But I think
there's something about the Olympic Games that brings out the
best and lydia Co clearly the results would say that,
you know, two medals and two games, you know, huge

(58:43):
shot for another one here if she can hold her nerve,
and that doesn't seem to be any you know, particular
problem for for Lydia Coe to hold her nerve. I'm
just going to check the scores. In fact, I won't
do it while I'm sort of clicking around on my computer.
I'll do it in the ads and let you know
how far ahead or behind or whatever it is she's
in the co lead. But whether there are those breathing

(59:05):
down her. A couple of other text to get away
before we go, Helen says, twelve of our fifteen medals
were one sitting down?

Speaker 16 (59:15):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (59:16):
I think that's probably true. Which ones haven't been one
sitting down? Let's go, let's work backwards. So Maddie was
she she was standing for the shot put. Hayden Wilde
was standing, although he was sitting on the bike, but
he was standing and swimming for large parts of it.
Who else have we got that that was doing things

(59:37):
in a in a fully erect position. And said, look,
Rugby seven's they were standing up, weren't they for the
most part? Andrew? So, yeah, Rugby sevens otherwise sailing, m Yeah,
the skiff and the nacra, Yeah, both sitting, rowing, all sitting, cycling,
all sitting, canoeing, all sitting.

Speaker 16 (59:59):
Yeah.

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wild Yeah. Like I say, I don't thin you could
say he sat down for the whole triathlon. That would
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Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Talk one point thirty. Just checking Cam roy Guards Instagram post,
the way he's tracking he says, I'm hoping the end
of September. I'm eyeing up the last two round robin
games in the NPC for my return to play. Excellent
news and Lydia co is in the co lead of
the golf nine under and there are two players at

(01:01:36):
seven under. So just hold your nerve lids. That doesn't
seem to be a problem for you. You're playing well,
keep going, get a Chris, gooy, Pamoni, how are you good? Thanks? Chris,
good mate, good good.

Speaker 22 (01:01:49):
Yeah, I'm just taking here an issue with you saying
the testers smack up on us. I've been waiting for
this for nine months. I reckon, it's going to be great.

Speaker 11 (01:01:59):
We've got to coach.

Speaker 22 (01:02:00):
We've got a coach that's playing players in the proper positions.
There's no wingers playing at center, there's no open sider
is playing at blind and blind playing at open side.
It's going to be great.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
You're going alone, No.

Speaker 11 (01:02:16):
No, I can't know.

Speaker 22 (01:02:17):
I'm not in Wellington, but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
I'd love to, so did you You've obviously watched the
other three tests, Chris. So you've been impressed obviously, And look,
I think like you, a lot of people were very
curious to see how would go under razy being in
pressed for the most part.

Speaker 22 (01:02:34):
Yeah, I can see what he's doing. I can see
what the plan is. He's had a look, he's left
them where they were, he's had a look and he's
decided who he needs to shift on and who he
needs to put back where they should be. And he's
waited for certain players to come around and be good
again after injury. And I think I think he's got
as same as he was down here in Canterbury. He's

(01:02:57):
got a plan and he wants the people in these
certain positions. He's always talking about people's feet and I
think ent On Leonard Brown as that guy in the
centers and he can get through that rush defense with
his quick feet.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
Yeah, good point. How's your stadium looking down there by
the way?

Speaker 11 (01:03:14):
Oh yes, great.

Speaker 22 (01:03:15):
I went past it in the middle of the night
the other day and there's welding sparks flying out of
the sky.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
It's like a fire.

Speaker 22 (01:03:20):
It's displayed down there some nights, and yes, dominating the
skyline because there's not much over that side of the
city to overpower it. You can see it from everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:03:30):
Yeah, I was down. When was the last down on
christ yeah, maybe in the last well certainly this year.
And I remember driving past it and thinking this is
going to be magnificent. It's so central. But it now looks,
doesn't it like a stadium. You can see what it's going.

Speaker 23 (01:03:42):
To be like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Imagine race's first test there, Chris, you got to get
along to that.

Speaker 22 (01:03:47):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope to be there.

Speaker 11 (01:03:50):
It should be great.

Speaker 22 (01:03:51):
I hope we had some good opposition and the team
still winning.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Good man, Chris, great a chap made and enjoyed the
test tonight. Glad it hasn't stuck up on everybody. Yeah,
And look, like I said, I knew it was coming. Obviously,
I knew the Rugby Championship was coming. And I think
once the Olympics are out of the way, then we'll
go back into full noise or blacks. I mean, they're
here in Auckland next Saturday, aren't they for the second
test at Eden Park? Mark?

Speaker 5 (01:04:13):
How are you? Yeah, good buddy. It's always good to
chat to you, mate, and to your number one off side.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Really good is it Andy you're talking about?

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
He goes, he goes, he goes all right, Yeah, he
goes good.

Speaker 5 (01:04:25):
Yeah, he goes pretty good. A damn good mate.

Speaker 14 (01:04:28):
We always have a little laugh, a little point, well
not a point, but lady who text in about our medals?
So sitting on our bum you go back to Los
Angeles four. Yep, every every medal we won was sitting
on our ass.

Speaker 5 (01:04:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
So Mark Todd's first one, of course he was just
Mark Todd then of course.

Speaker 5 (01:04:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
And the kayaks there was a there was a sailing yeah,
sailingland yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:04:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Why is it when all these medals sitting on our abut.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Well, I think it's a coincidence. And it's not like
you and I sitting on our backsides Mark watching TV
or whatever might be. They're working pretty hard while they're
doing it. You look at those rollers, you know, and
the amount of effort the kayakers in fact, honestly, it's
probably more. It's probably they're probably exerting more energy than
most of us do standing up and doing vigorous activity.

Speaker 11 (01:05:24):
Well, probably more.

Speaker 5 (01:05:25):
Than somebody doing a fifteen hundred meter run too.

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Yeah all that, I mean that rowing they talk about
and Emma Tiggers on the show last week and she
talked about running out of legs, and you think to yourself,
a rower won't run out of legs. But then you
get on a rowing machine and when you're off it,
it is your legs that go to jelly, not your
upper body.

Speaker 14 (01:05:41):
When I was younger, Jason the used to do a
lot of whitewater and flatwater canoeing, and especially whitewater. Believe
it or not, by the time you go through gate
number one and get to gate number twenty three, your
mouth is as dry as a camel's. I won't say it, but.

Speaker 5 (01:05:58):
Your mouth is so dry even with all that water around.

Speaker 11 (01:06:01):
I no, man't know why it is, but that's what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
You would have been impressed by Finn Butcher, then, no doubt.

Speaker 14 (01:06:09):
I was impressed by both that, and also the women's
and the men's slam.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Yeah, yeah, incredible.

Speaker 14 (01:06:19):
You know, I can go back to a couple of
Olympics ago and I never knew what happened to him,
the African.

Speaker 19 (01:06:25):
Guy that got the silver in the in the white water.

Speaker 5 (01:06:29):
He was a big boy, but you never heard anything
more of him after that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
Yeah, I can't recall that with Finn Butcher. Thanks for
your call, Mark, good to chat with Finn Butcher. I
think I said this last week. I don't think most
people had heard of him, right, But now you say
Finn Butcher, then everybody knows who he is. The Marna
wave at the top, you know, he seems like a
really good rooster. Just yeah, that's what the Olympics does.

(01:06:57):
It puts people into our sporting consciousness and often into
our sporting folklore. I mean, if Finn Butcher never does
anything else again, which won't be the case, he'll always
be a gold medallist at Paris twenty twenty four.

Speaker 11 (01:07:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:13):
The sitting down is interesting, isn't it. It's just look
at as I said, it is absolutely no indication cycling,
of course as well, no indication of effort. In fact,
I think I'd probably rather run than row or kayak
or sail or cycle or even ride a horse. If
I'm honest, I think that I would rather. I'd rather run.

(01:07:41):
You're sitting down. I mean they take some punishment, those athletes.
Twenty four away from two. A couple of texts that
have come through, Steve says, I agree. I can't say
I had rock climbing on the radar at all. Now
I'm hooked on it. Amazing athletes. Muss is not only
the jubilation of the Olympics pinty, but also the absolute heartbreak.

(01:08:01):
I saw a female athlete warming up for the one
hundred hurdle. She rolled her knee. Over four years of
training destroyed by a freak accident. Back to the shot put,
Dave says, I've been over it and over it and
over it, and it does bounce before the twenty meter
line unfortunately, but it's hard to see because the shot
disappears with the background when it's coming down. Either way,

(01:08:23):
an awesome throw by Maddie. Yeah, look, I think we
can all accept that. The officials who were there saw
where it landed, and even though it looks as though
it's twenty meters, it's not. I just wanted to say,
says this one. I'm fifty five, and it's not. Till
now I've fully appreciated how good our athletes are. We're

(01:08:45):
a nation of five million and on the medal table
we're beating India. Yesterday we were in front of Canada
for a while. Amazing. The only disappointment I really wanted
a shot put gold for Maddie so close. Yes, I did.
I and just someone said before about the athletes and
having the chance to talk to them and listen to them,
because that's the other thing too, right, is these athletes

(01:09:07):
often just beaver away in the background outside of these
pinnacle events. And yes, occasionally we hear from them or
see them, but it's not regular. And then you listen
to people like Maddie Wishy, like Tara Vaughn and Olivia Brett,
like Finn Butcher, these fantastic young kiwis, and you think

(01:09:33):
they're just wrapping us. So well, then you look around
and your and I know it's different strokes for different folks,
and you see a lot of these athletes, particularly in
some sports like sprinting for example, or yeah, in fact,
sprinting I think is the one that I land on
where there's a lot of strutting around, a lot of

(01:09:54):
a lot of outward brashness. And yes that you know
that in itself is kind of attractive. I watched Noah
Lyles and you know, before the one hundred meters and afterwards,
and then of course we all know he came to
grief with COVID and the two hundred Shaikhari Richardson, the
female sprinter who ran them home in the four x
one hundred meters, and they do they are out there,

(01:10:17):
they're out there. But I must say, and maybe it's
just a key we thing, I prefer my athletes a
little more humble. I love the humility that is displayed
by pretty much, without exception, all of our Olympic athletes,
certainly the ones who I've seen interviewed and heard interviewed
for the most part, ninety nine percent. In fact, I

(01:10:38):
can't think of one, So I'm going to say one
hundred percent, one hundred percent of them have shown dignity
and pride and humility and I like that. Twenty one
to two. We'll get an Australian view at a moment
because Adam Peacock, our Australian correspondents standing by the chat
to us, what did Olympics? They've had forty eight medals,
is it their best ever? Maybe Adam can tell us
when we come back on News Talk SEP.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
At BB News Talks a B seventeen away from two.
I've just been alerted to something on Dame Valerie Adam's instagram,
which we're just going to get for you with regards
to the shot put and just a bit of confusion
about the twenty meter line. Now, she's not suggesting that
there was anything untoward it, or that the measurements were
correct for Mehdi were she, or for any of the competitors,

(01:11:34):
but just something about where the twenty meter line was placed.
Rather than me try and explain it to you, we're
just going to get the audio and imply it out
to you. Shortly before we do that, let's get across
the Tasman where they are swimming in metals. Adam Peacock's
with US forty eight and counting, you should bring up
fifty equaling what you got on Athens in two thousand
and four, fifty eight in Sydney two thousand your home

(01:11:57):
games was your best. You have to look at this
as a pretty successful games for Australia, don't you.

Speaker 24 (01:12:03):
Yeah, we're calling it our most successful ever based on
the fact that eighteen goals is a new record. Seventeen
back in Tokyo and Athens two thousand and four was
the record there, but no overall medals. We've got one
guarantee of the water. Polog is not sure what color,
And hopefully we can scratch some one somewhere else, maybe
just hole in the fifteen hundred women's or women's jablin

(01:12:24):
throwers who go in their final tomorrow. But it is
like everyone's celebrating over here, like they are over there
piny and great games. The kiwis.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
Yeah, it didn't look likely. It didn't look likely to start.
We got off to a sluggish start. Is probably best
to say a slow worst start. But I think what
they say is how you finished, not how you begin.

Speaker 24 (01:12:43):
Yeah, exactly exactly where the opposite, because we've got so
many good swimmers. Although I'm reading in la in four
years song they're going to flip it because they want
so far the big stadium for both the swimming and
the artic ceremony, and they can't get the pool anytime,
So they're going to have the swimming in the second
week and the athletics in the first, which is to
be a bit funky. But I'm not sure if that's
going to hold, but we'll wait and see there. But

(01:13:04):
it's any great games.

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Yeah, I look at your swimming number seven gold, eight,
silver's three bronze eighteen medals in the pool. But you
know other sports as well. These are Fox Sisters of
yours and the canoe slalom Jessica and no Amy gold, gold, gold,
They go all.

Speaker 24 (01:13:20):
Right, yeah, superb like Jess was expected with her performances.
But Naomi who only I think she was one of
the last athletes about four hundred and sixty to be
formerly selected, so she had to qualify late and got
in in the new kayak cross where they drop them
down and they race against each other, a really cool event.
I'm glad they bought it in. Yeah, she managed to

(01:13:43):
get a ride on the day and win a gold
and it was one of the images of the whole
the whole Olympics. When Jess jumped in, she was happier
for her sister than what she was for herself when
she won her two goals. But also our skateboarders, we
won two gold medals in skateboarding. So yeah, across the board,
we've got some We've got some athletes who performed in

(01:14:03):
not just one or two chosen sports, but yeah, almost
ten or twelve that we're going really well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Yeah, I look across the range of sports that yeah,
that you that Australia has middled, and yeah, you land
on the traditional ones like swimming and perhaps to a
lesser extent, the likes of canoe slalom. But yeah, skateboarding,
I think you've got some boxing, a couple of boxing bronzes.
Across cycling, you're always pretty strong. High jump. Nina Kennedy

(01:14:29):
winning sorry pole volt winning pole vault gold. We had
three Kiwis in this, but Nina Kennedy climb climbing highest
of order. Do you catch that?

Speaker 11 (01:14:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:14:38):
I caught that one.

Speaker 24 (01:14:39):
She was she was probably our best in an even
bunch of our best gold medal chance going into the athletics,
and this looks like it's going to be our most
successful athletics mate at an Olympic Games for well, going
back to the days of Herb Elliott and the like
in the in the sixties and John Anne and.

Speaker 11 (01:14:58):
Those that crew.

Speaker 24 (01:14:59):
And we have great spin sprinders in Marjori and Jackson
strick one. But yeah, it's been it's been fantastic because
it is such a worldly event. I knew you would
have seen it that with your shot putter this morning,
for instance, and the women's shot put nearly winning a
gold medal that it's just such an even spread, and
I think that's what makes it in falling that. Look tomorrow,

(01:15:19):
we've got nine events and we could well have nine
different countries winning gold medals for the last day of
the athletics. So that's how big this sport is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Yeah, it really is. When you look at the table,
I mean, the United States and China are at the
moment likely to be at the top of the field,
but Australia tucked in there in third place? Is that
kind of is third what you aim for? Is it
like the beast of the rest outside the two big superpowers?

Speaker 24 (01:15:45):
I reckon anything upward of six is pretty good in
my estimation given our population, and you're the same. I'm
guessing top fifteen feels remarkable for New Zealand, and yeah,
top six maybe top five for Australia feels really good.
So the best is the fact that America probably has
it's in about seven with medals. Overall medals one the

(01:16:05):
America and for that first week. We're very quick to
point out that they'd want more medals than everyone's just
they weren't actually winning things at the rate that China was.
But no, I think beyond the medal tally as well,
pointing and you guys will be across this from your
perspective that there's so many Australians that are coming up
with PBS and young, especially in the athletics. Was at

(01:16:28):
a young team in the sense that they're okay, they're
getting run out in the heats or running out in
the semi finals, but they're actually producing personal best times
and that for me is as important as any metal
that you can get if you can go there and
do your best and maybe improve off that. We had
an eight hundred meter to run Peyton Craig, he's slashed
his time by three seconds in the last year. He's nineteen,

(01:16:51):
He's got potentially three more Olympics to go to if
he really loves what he's doing. So yeah, it's great
to see that as well. It really brings a smile
on my face when we see that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
Absolutely, and just looking ahead then, because Brisbane of course
will host in eight years time, Brisbane twenty thirty two.
People starting to talk about that yet yeah, not in a.

Speaker 24 (01:17:11):
Positive sense, opining, because they haven't actually made decisions about where,
what's going to be where and infrastructure, and I think
they're realizing now that they's got a lot to do
and a lot to build, and a lot of decisions
to make. They've got a state government coming a state
government election coming up there in Queensland. As soon as
that's done, they're going to have to start making plans

(01:17:32):
because this is getting to the ridiculous stage. But you're
looking at these great events and they've got legacy buildings
that they're using really well, like start the Trances was
already there, built over twenty five years ago. And Brisbane
have one big stadium where they're having the Ruggy this
afternoon with the wallity is taken on South Africa, and
apart from that, there's not a stack of already built

(01:17:54):
at venue. So they got some massive decisions to make
in the next twelve months. But yeah, it's if you
get it right. Paris is shown that it can be
a magnificent event and it's just buying me away about
how well it's gone, how well it's gone so far.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
Indeed, it's been great. Catching up has always enjoy the
last couple of days. I hope you can push that
metal tally even higher. Let's catch up again next Saturday.

Speaker 24 (01:18:17):
Thanks thanks by sound Good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Thanks mate, Adam Pecock, our Australian correspondent. Right here is
Dame Valerie Adams. Let me just find this audio for
you talking about the twenty meter mark for the shot put.
All right now it's a little bit hard to hear
because there's some background noise, but here is Dame Valerie
Adams with her thoughts on that.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
Now.

Speaker 21 (01:18:37):
I know I shouldn't really have been but one negative
thing about.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
The combinations around it was the twenty meter line has not.

Speaker 5 (01:18:45):
Faced in the great position.

Speaker 9 (01:18:47):
So what I mean, my dad was that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
Lane and it wasn't wasn't measure in twenty meters.

Speaker 18 (01:18:55):
Totally bad form as an a pleasure when you heard.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Of the line was when you meet alone.

Speaker 6 (01:19:00):
Is such a good deal? Broken the barrier that you've
been chasing such a long time.

Speaker 21 (01:19:05):
So now we're seven is appointed.

Speaker 14 (01:19:09):
A measurement.

Speaker 7 (01:19:11):
And I'm sure some of the athletes you're thinking there
close to twenty meters, but actually it only He's just.

Speaker 2 (01:19:16):
Like, yes, I'm not sure why you're not about this now,
what's done.

Speaker 5 (01:19:21):
It's done.

Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
However, it's good learnings for that's not to happen again.

Speaker 5 (01:19:25):
I think that's competition.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
But there, okay, So that's dan Valarie Adams. She was
there at the at the shot put com. So what
she's saying is that the twenty meter line is not
twenty meters. She's not suggesting for a second that there
were incorrect measurements here, but just that if a shot
went close to or even over where twenty meters was
marked with the line on the grass, that once you

(01:19:49):
measured it using the electronic gear, it wasn't twenty meters.
And like she says, you know when you if you
get that visual cueue of the shot hitting that line, thinking, man,
I've thrown at twenty meters, us watching saying she's thrown
at twenty meters. And maybe that's what happened with Maddie
Wishy's final throw. I honestly thought it was over twenty
meters and we knew that the previous or the throw

(01:20:11):
she had to beat was twenty meters exactly. So anything
up there, anything that hit that line, we're like, hey,
she's one. She's won. But from what Dan Valerie was saying,
there the lines in the wrong place. So interesting. Eight
to two News Talk z EB breaking.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Down the hail Mary's and the EMPIC fails Weekend Sport
with Jason Pin News Talk ZENB.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Five to one couple of residual textas a text before
we go to the news. Jason, can you let us
know Lydia's tea time. I'm definitely gonna watch her whole
fourth round, says Dave. Dave, I can. It's at ten
thirty nine tonight. Ten thirty nine is when she teaes
often the leading group alongside Morgan Matrou and Ruining yin
the Swiss and Chinese golfers. Ten thirty nine tonight is

(01:20:59):
when she will be teeing off pintly. We know where
we are on the middle table by medals, but where
are we medals by population? Yeah, this is the whole
medals per capita table, Scott. I tend to approach this
with a small degree of cynicism. I feel like it's
padding our stats, but I do accept that it is

(01:21:21):
interesting to check out medals by population medals per capita.
So I will tell you that we're currently although this
was done when we only had fourteen medals, so it's
not up to date, which isn't that handy, but I
think it still has us of the same position. Fourth
fourth Grenada with their two medals and a population of

(01:21:41):
one hundred and twelve thousand a top. Then Dominica with
the one medal for sixty seven thousand, and Saint Lucia
two medals for their one hundred and eighty four thousand people.
So that's those are the top three. Then US and
when we had fourteen it was one medal per three
hundred and eighty one thousand people. That will obviously be

(01:22:04):
a lower number now because we have metals. I'm sure
you can do the mass if that's interesting to you,
but yeah, I get the per capita. I just wonder
whether we're just finding a way to make ourselves feel
better sometimes I don't know. After two, the number one
darts player in the world is with us. Luke Humphrey's

(01:22:24):
ahead of the Hamilton Darts Masters and what chance Hamish
Kerr in the high jump tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:22:29):
The only place for the big names, the big issues,
the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on
Weekend Sport with Jason Vain on your home of Sport News.

Speaker 9 (01:22:44):
Talks it B.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
Two o seven, Hello and welcome back into the show.
This is Weekend Sport on News Talks.

Speaker 24 (01:22:51):
Evy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
I'm Jason Pinnady McDonald as executive producer. We're here till three.
Then the weekend collective team is in, presumably Tim Beverige.
I haven't seen him arrive yet, but if I know Tim,
and I think I do, he'll be keen to host
between three and six. Between now and three, want to
chat about Hamish curse chances tomorrow morning. In the men's

(01:23:12):
high jump at the Paris Olympic Games. One of our
best high jumpers, Roger Tippuni, going to join us, went
to two Commonwealth Games, had a personal best of two
metters twenty four. Follows track and field extremely closely. He'll
led to some analysis on Hamish curse chances of gold
tomorrow morning. I want to pick up on our bronze

(01:23:33):
medal winning sailors as well, Micah Wilkinson and Erica Dawson.
Have a chat to them or replay a chat I
had with them earlier this week. But next up the
number one darts player in the world, Luke Humphreys, New
Zealand bound headed for Hamilton next weekend for the New
Zealand Darts Masters. Want to catch up with Luke Humphries,
who has won just about everything there is to win

(01:23:55):
in the last twelve to eighteen months, including the World
Championship and the World Match Play. He's number one in
the world. As I say, what's the secret? Or isn't
there one? Maybe there just isn't one. You can call
us whenever you like our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,
text us whenever you like nine two ninety two, or
send me an email. Jason at news Talk saidb dot
co dot in z. But with a time rapidly approaching

(01:24:16):
nine past two, it's time to make sure that you
haven't missed anything, that you are well aware of the
stuff that's been happening, perhaps while you were asleep. In fact,
most of this has actually in case you missed it,
put together by Andy McDonald and with an Olympics focus.
Today some of the other big medals handed out in
the last twelve to eighteen hours, first the Netherlands with

(01:24:39):
gold and the women's field hockey.

Speaker 17 (01:24:41):
This Vinan dot comes, masmckennittle, talk to you, ss lesness.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
One of those double Dutch delights. Fran Paris sprint queen
Shaikhari Richardson led the way for the US four by
one hundred meter relay teen to pick up her first
gold medals. Richardson's going to have to come from behind
if she does that.

Speaker 25 (01:25:05):
Here it come the Cherman running fast to carry Richardson,
sprinting Nita to the line. It's gonna be Richardson, Nita
Britain and then the Germans.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
To the means football. Spine have fought off a comeback
from France to snatch gold. For it's a tennis He's
going to launch a counter attack. Serchio, come io, come
I ups through showing on a fifth. Come on, when's
the gold for Spine? And the first gold medal has
been handed out on the new sport, the Nobile Art

(01:25:38):
of breaking. What an amazing gold medal battle this has been.

Speaker 17 (01:25:46):
The crowd is on its feet for these two phenomenal dancers,
these two phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (01:25:54):
Young women, and the Olympic champion.

Speaker 6 (01:25:57):
Is army, big girl, Army.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
You are an army of Jimmy analyzing every view from
every angle in the world weekends for it with Jason.

Speaker 11 (01:26:09):
They call.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
Talk wonderful stuff. Yeah, I mean, I'm all for the
new sports at the Olympics. I didn't watch the breaking.
They say her name was b girl. Is that her name?

Speaker 20 (01:26:21):
No, that's how they refer to athletes and breakdancing catch
up at the time. It's you know, your B boys
and your B girls. Yeah, your break dancers throwing it down,
get in some get in some freezers. Stop yeah yeah,
are you sure you lay it down on the I've
been catching up with the lingo of the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
A freeze.

Speaker 20 (01:26:40):
It's when you hold an unusual position for a length
of time to get points in the breaking.

Speaker 19 (01:26:47):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Thride down, Piney, rite down, Pine Man. Please please refer
to me as bee boy Pine from now on. I
remember when you used to be called. It used to
be called breakdancing or way way back doing the bop.
People used to carry around their own little bit of lino.
Do you remember that? No, people used to Maybe it

(01:27:11):
was just in my hood, but people used to carry
on a little bit of lino so they could do
you know, do the backs.

Speaker 20 (01:27:17):
That's going into the yearbook quotes. Maybe that was just
in my hood, Jason Pine four for you back in
the days where they'll carry their own speaker box on
their shoulders, absolutely and have big disco afros and multi colored.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
Trousers with fleers at the bottom.

Speaker 11 (01:27:35):
All of that.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Do you know what they used to call the big
the big speaker, and that used to carry out a
ghetto blaster. Ghetto blaster, that's what they call it.

Speaker 11 (01:27:41):
There you go.

Speaker 20 (01:27:42):
They need to bring that back. Actually, they bring a
bit more authenticity to the breaking of the of the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Yeah, yeah, ghetto blasters. Bring them back, bring back the
bring back the sheet of lino. Let's move on, shall we.
The Hamilton Darts Masters are on next weekend. Among those
coming reigning world champion Lou Humphrey Jason. He's the plentiest.

Speaker 12 (01:28:08):
Darting for summer plenty right now, the world number one
for the first time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
He's world champion.

Speaker 12 (01:28:19):
Incredible stuff to come from four to down and rattle
off five consecutive sets because this teenage prodigy did not
let up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:30):
Did not give it him easy. He went out and
earned it. So Louk Humphries is with us. Luke, here's
the list I've gone in front of me. World Champion,
World match Play Champion, only the fourth man to win
both events in the same year, after Michael van Gouin,
Peter Wright, Phil Taylor. Pretty good company there, Grand Slam Champion,
Grand Prix Champion, Players Championship Champion, World Cup champion and

(01:28:55):
world number one. Have I missed anything?

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
I'm not sure anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
Sony titles in I don't if you missed anything or not.
All right, well let's just say it's plenty. How do
you reflec on your last twelve months.

Speaker 7 (01:29:09):
Yeah, it's hard to reflect on it in a way
that you can believe it's all possible, to be honest,
it's been the most extraordinary twelve months, you know, like
you just read them all them tolements off. When people
sort of do that kind of makes you realize, you know,
what you've achieved in such a short amount of time.
You know, three of the biggest tournaments in my eyes
that I've dreamed of winning. It was obviously the World Championships,

(01:29:29):
the Max Player in the World Cup. And to do
them more in the space of six seven months, obviously
it's unbelievable. So you know, I've achieved a lot already
in this game, but I'll want to keep striving for more.
I want to keep pushing out, I want to win
more titles.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
Look, what do you put it down to? What's been
behind this incredible run of form?

Speaker 7 (01:29:45):
I think I don't really know. I can pinp up,
but I think the game's always been there. Over the
last two to three years, you know, that game's been there.
I've been showing glimpses of it. It's just the you know,
the consistency level that lacked. But you know, since I
won my first major title back in last October, it
give me that belief and that confidence to go on
and keep repeating the feet and you know, since that moment,

(01:30:06):
and I feel like I've not looked back, and I've
been you know, much more mentally strong and more consistent.

Speaker 3 (01:30:11):
And I feel like the more I play, the better
I'll get.

Speaker 7 (01:30:13):
So the amount of darts I've thrown over the last
twelve months is obviously helping me and keep playing all
the time. It's just building my game to bigger and
better levels.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Is that also part of the sacred or not so
much the sacred, but just the reason that you're just
spending hours and hours and hours just throwing darts at
the board, the prip that you're putting in.

Speaker 7 (01:30:29):
Yeah, and there's also a few facts of experience, you know,
when you're putting to these positions of you know, close games,
and you know, if you're not really used to playing
in many you can kind of feel a bit nervy
and they sometimes mostly don't go your way. But when
you've experienced being in their moments so many times, they
kind of feel natural to you. So when you're involved
in these games, like my last major final that I won,

(01:30:51):
which a couple of weeks ago, in the match play,
it was a close sort of game between Mike Vango
and me, but you know, I managed to pull out
the bag in the end because I laid on that
experience of matches that I've been in major finals and
them sort of scenarios, and I just think it's little
moments like that that, you know, them bits of ex
experience you gained through the years that that do help
you through, and obviously it's helping me through at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:31:10):
I guess when we look at the titles you've won,
that the World Championship must be big. But how much
did winning the World match Play mean to you?

Speaker 7 (01:31:19):
It meant, you know, an incredible amount, and it felt
that way for me once once I then you know,
two doable tops to lift that trophy. It is the
second biggest major in our sport after the World Championships.
It's the most prestigious one, you know, it's the same
trophy that was held in nineteen ninety four by Larry.

Speaker 3 (01:31:35):
Butler, you know, so that's a very prestigious one for
us all to have.

Speaker 7 (01:31:39):
Every other trophy in the PDC has been changed or differentiated,
the one for the match players always stayed the same.
So it's very prestigious and an amazing venue in the
Winter Gardens. It's just if you ask any player except
for the world that they'll tell you that's the most
exciting event and that everybody wants to win. So for
me to do the same in one kind of year,
it's it's something beyond my world as dreams. But I've
worked incredibly hard over the last sort of four to

(01:32:01):
five years, so I'm reaping the rewards now, which is
which is fantastic for myself.

Speaker 2 (01:32:05):
Have you watched back the Double Double Tops a few times?

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
Yeah, Funnily enough, I watched it back a few times.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
It's one of them moments.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
I think it's a pinch me moment.

Speaker 7 (01:32:14):
You got to watch it back a few times to
really understand how, you know, how it feels to see
that moment and relive it. And yeah, I watched that night.
I watched it back quite a few times because I
couldn't really believe how how I achieved such a great
Tourlament went on such a crazy sort of finish.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
But you know, I played a fantastic tournament.

Speaker 7 (01:32:32):
You know, I think I had five hundred averages throughout
the whole only field Taylor's ever done that and won it.
So yeah, I've put myself in some great company over
the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:32:40):
You certainly have when you're throwing like that look when
it's when it's going in all the time. Are you
in some sort of flow state athlete talk about begging
a flow state where it just happens automatically, or are
you still consciously throwing each and every dart.

Speaker 7 (01:32:57):
No, you're right, you do get in this flow state,
and I think that I'm one of them top players
that do. You know, in a way, when it starts
to feel like you can't, that's when you feel like
you're in your flow state. You know, you feel like
you're not going to miss a trouble. And when you
feel that confident when you walk up to the board
that you're not going to miss nine times out of ten,
you don't, you know, your bodies must be at a

(01:33:17):
comfortable stage and a free flowing throwing stage. That that's
what makes you feel like it where sometimes if you're
not going to there thinking you can't miss, you're a
bit more uptight and your body's more tight, and you
know you're not throwing your natural game.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
But you're right what you say.

Speaker 7 (01:33:30):
When you're in that free flow and natural ability feeling, yeah,
sometimes you just don't feel like you can miss.

Speaker 3 (01:33:35):
And that's when I put in my best performances.

Speaker 2 (01:33:37):
Must be a nice feeling. Take a speck Luke to
the World Championship final against Luke Littler. What stands out
most when you think back to that night just.

Speaker 7 (01:33:47):
The spectacle I felt like it was, well, it was
the youngest combined age in any World final in history.
You know, the attention was obviously on Luke Littler as well,
because he was doing crazy things when it's such a
young age. And you know the pressure might have been
not on my shoulders as much it would have been
for to play someone else because I've just become the
world nomber them to get the game before. But I

(01:34:08):
just you know, I just remember thinking to myself, well,
file Plague, you know, this is your chance to really
you know, go on and a chieve your dream and
just leave everything out on the dart or.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Don't don't don't walk.

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
I don't want to be walking off the stage and
regretting it if I'd lost it. I didn't, you know,
try my hardest, or didn't put that effort in that
I needed. And you know, when I was four two down,
I just in my mind, I just thought, just give
it everything now you've got nothing to lose. And I
reeled off the next five sets in unbelievable fashion. And
you know, it was a great party at the nighttime
as well. It was just the most incredible twenty four hours.
And you know, it's just something that you want to

(01:34:39):
relive again. So you know, goals for me is now,
is the red say in that World Championship this year?
Or should I say it will be next year in
twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Look littler you mentioned and there he's got a lot
of attention this past year or so, hasn't he having
burst onto the scene at such a young age. Do
you sometimes, given the all the titles you've won, do
you sometimes thing a on guys, you're looking at the
wrong look?

Speaker 7 (01:35:01):
Not not really, because we both have our own sort
of different things about the world. Obviously, I've dominated sport
for the last twelve to eighteen months on the board,
and Luke's dominating the sport off the board in you know,
the popularity, and you know he will do that and
I'll never match his popularity, but what I can matches
is the level of darts. And you know, I played
this sport to you know, to to win major titles

(01:35:22):
and Luke's obviously new to everything, but he's got this
incredible amount of popularity that you know, if I had
at seventeen, I'd be enjoying it as well. So you know,
fair plage and IP goes on and you know, mixes
with it, you know, the top celebrities, because you know
that's where he is at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:35:35):
But he's also a fantastic player as well.

Speaker 7 (01:35:37):
But my mind is just fully set on you know,
being the best, best version of myself in darts and
obviously got a family at home, I have, I have,
you know, a lot more commitments than he has.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
His commitments non existent.

Speaker 7 (01:35:48):
He can just enjoy himself played darts and meet less
celebrities and mine's completely different.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
But we're both doing really well.

Speaker 7 (01:35:53):
We I think over the last sort of seven months,
we pretty much dominated just sport together.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
You know, he's one of thads of titles.

Speaker 7 (01:35:58):
I've won those of titles, and you know, if the
rest of them behind us don't start getting better, then
you know we will carry on doing it ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:36:04):
Were you aware of him? He just become aware of
him really last yeah, twelve months or so since, as
I say, he's burst onto the scene. Were you aware
of him before we all were?

Speaker 11 (01:36:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:36:14):
Yeah, I knew. I met Luke about four years before.

Speaker 7 (01:36:18):
We played in a local competition and he was twelve
years old at the time, and I beat him three too,
and my god, he gave me a fry.

Speaker 3 (01:36:25):
He played unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (01:36:26):
I think he took out a one six four, and
I think I had to take out a decent finish
while he was sat on a decent finish to win
three too. Now that was when he was twelve, and
I was a professional then and I won that competition,
but he was my toughest challenge. So I knew about
him then and I sort of followed what he'd been
doing over the years. You know, when he was like
thirteen forteen, he was winning a lot of youth competition,

(01:36:46):
so I'm thinking I keep my eye on him. And
then you know, at the back end of last year,
he was winning Modus Series, Super Series This which is
a smaller organization that helping the amateurs game, and he
was winning them against great players, and I knew he
was going to play well in the World. I didn't
expect him to make the final, I must admit, but
I expected him to, you know, to have a good run.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
But he exceeded all expectations.

Speaker 7 (01:37:09):
And there's no fear that he showed throughout that World
Championship is what was most admirable to me.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
I thought it was just unbelievable.

Speaker 7 (01:37:15):
And I can imagine if I was sixteen walk up
on that big stage, I would have felt a bit
apprehension or a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
Nervous, But he didn't show that.

Speaker 7 (01:37:21):
So that's a side of him, regardless of his ability,
that's absolutely insane as well.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
You talk before look about big checkouts and one hundred
plus checkouts. Is that something that you work hard on?

Speaker 21 (01:37:34):
Yes, I do.

Speaker 7 (01:37:35):
I work on that, not loads, but I do work
and I think that one thing that's improved in my
game the last two years is my finishing, My score
and power has always been there, but unfortunately my doubles
are let me down in the wrong times, and that
is what separates the best from you know, the lower
ranked players. And for me, I think that I've managed
to work hard on my finishing and my high finishing

(01:37:57):
and hitting the right checkouts at the right time, you know,
if you need a big checkout here and really hurts
the player if you take it out in that most
annoying time and if you're three or four all to
get to get away, get a lead, you know. So
I've really worked on that in my game and I
feel like that's that's something that I'm excelling in now.
But like you said, yeah, I have been working harder
my you know, my big finishes because they do get

(01:38:18):
me out of trouble sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
Well, Ye're going well at the moment. But being a
journey hasn't it like a lot of top sports people.
This hasn't just happened overnight for you. Your journey hasn't
been without its challenges along the way. Did you always believe, though, Luke,
you could you could do what you've done.

Speaker 3 (01:38:34):
Yeah, my journey was really the nice way to do it.

Speaker 8 (01:38:37):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:38:37):
It started off here and it sort of gently went up.
And I started off as a as a youth playing
on the development tool on the PDC and I earned
my right through whenning that in I think it was
twenty eighteen, so it was about seven years ago now
nearly obviously played fantastic on that. You know, there was
the likes of who you know in this competition as well,
Dmitri Vanderburgh was in that and I managed to do
to beat him to the top spot, and so I

(01:38:59):
knew the potential was there. And then obviously, first year
I made the court finals of the World Championship. Second
year I made the court finals for the World Championship,
and obviously COVID hit and that that made you take
a bit of a step back, to be honest, because
I couldn't play regularly.

Speaker 2 (01:39:12):
But but for me it helped.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
I lost a lot of weight in COVID. After in
between COVID and I.

Speaker 7 (01:39:18):
Come back a much more fresher, better player and obviously
made my first major final just as we were sort
of coming out of COVID a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
And then, you know, I never looked back from that moment.

Speaker 5 (01:39:28):
That was the key.

Speaker 7 (01:39:28):
In twenty twenty one, when I made the u Copen final.
You know that was that was when the surge of
me going on upwards curve really did start. And you know,
I look back to that moment. I think that was
that was the making of me.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
All right, favorite double. Let's say on and you've got
a million dollars to head a double? What what are
you aiming for on the board?

Speaker 3 (01:39:46):
Definitely double? Sixteen. Yeah, it's always been my you know,
my go to double.

Speaker 7 (01:39:51):
I always try and leave it, but you know, I
feel pretty comfortable in tops, tens, twelves, eighteen, sixteen, eight fours,
you know, all these doubles, and that's that's a key thing.
You do need to feel comfortable most important. But if
used to, you know, give me three darts at double
for a million dollars, it were you deal with sixteen?
Because I think I hit that the most.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
All right, fair enough, Luke, congratulations on a wonderful last
twelve to eighteen months, a raft of titles and many
more to come. We can't wait to see you at
the Hamilton Darts Masters next weekend. Really appreciate you chatting
to us.

Speaker 3 (01:40:19):
Yeah, really looking forward to next week. Thank you very
much for having me.

Speaker 2 (01:40:22):
No thank you for joining us.

Speaker 11 (01:40:23):
Luke.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
Luke Humphrey's world number one darts player going to be
at the New Zealand Dance Masters next weekend Glowbox Arena
in Hamilton, along with a host of really well known
names for those who follow the sport. Luke Humphrey's, Michael Smith,
Girwin Price, Rob Cross, Peter Wright, Luke Littler is going
to be there, Dimitry Vandenburg, Damon Hetter and leaving the
Oceania charge is New Zealand number one Hope by Pooha,

(01:40:46):
who's going to join us on the show tomorrow. Now
we can't get you to Hamilton. We cannot get you there,
but if you can get there on Friday, we can
get you in to the darts double pass Andy double
pass to Friday Night Double Pass to Friday Nights New
Zealand Darts Masters Globox Arena in Hamilton to give away. So,
as I said, if you are in Hamilton or can

(01:41:08):
get to Hamilton on Friday night and you'd like this
double pass, I'm not gonna make it too hard, are We?
Just text the word darts to nine two nine two.
What could be simpler? Darts to nine two nine two.
We'll leave it open for fifteen twenty minutes then we'll
pick a winner. So if you can get to Hamilton,
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to nine two ninety two and we'll pick a winner
for a double past to the New Zealand Darts Masters
next weekend Friday Saturday. Gooybox around Hamilton two twenty six
is gonna shift our attention back to the Olympics shortly.
Hamish Cur is in the final of the high jump
tomorrow morning from five. What are his chances? Could he
get on the podium? Could he get on top of
the podium? Roger Tipooni is our best ever high jumper

(01:41:52):
up until now, one of our best, and I still
think he's probably got what it takes to get over
two meters two meters ten even He's next to break
down the chances of Hamish Cur in the high jump
tomorrow morning.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
One crutches hold Ngage can Sport with Jason him and GJ.
Gunner homes New Zealand's most trusted homilder.

Speaker 2 (01:42:12):
News Talks a BB two twenty nine News Talks a
B New Zealand's Hamish Cur will contest the twelve Man
Olympic high jump final tomorrow morning. Two meters twenty seven
on the bar for Hamish cur right handed approach.

Speaker 10 (01:42:25):
And he's over.

Speaker 2 (01:42:28):
At two twenty seven, and that will all but guarantee
the Kiwi a place in the high jump final Sunday morning.
It did, but it almost wasn't to be when Hamish
Curb missed twice at two meters twenty A third miss
would have seen him eliminated third and final attempt at
two meters twenty What a disappointment it it'd be if

(01:42:50):
he can't get over here, eliminated in a high jump
qualifying little smile on the face of Hamish cur, orange shoes,
flashing right handed approach. He's over comfortably. Why did we
have a doubt? I was doubting him. I have to
say doubting him Osbert Worry. Roger Topoony is one of
our best ever high jumpers, eleven national titles between nineteen

(01:43:13):
eighty two and nineteen ninety four. He finished eighth fresh
out of school at the nineteen eighty two Commonwealth Games
in Brisbane and eighth again at the nineteen ninety Commonwealth
Games in Auckland. His personal best was two meters twenty four,
which he set two weeks after the Auckland Commonwealth Games.
That height would have one of my bronze a fortnight earlier.

(01:43:34):
Roger Topooney joins us, Roger, thanks for taking the time.
How confident should we be in general terms about Hamish
kurz chances of a medal in the high jump tomorrow?

Speaker 11 (01:43:44):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (01:43:44):
Look, I think, without putting a vodu on Hamish, I
think we should be pretty confident, very confident. I'm pretty
confident now he's going to have the qualifying rounds. Qualifying
rounds for Hamish has traditionally been a bit of a
scary moment for him. Three World champs in a row,
he hadn't managed to get through the qualifying rounds. So
now he has, and speaking kind of relax, I guess,

(01:44:07):
but he's he's ranked well up there as a couple
of good guys sort of jumped high in the past.
But I don't Hams. She's shown some pretty great form there,
so to take.

Speaker 11 (01:44:15):
Him to the final.

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
When you were watching qualifying as we all were, how
worried were you when he missed twice at two twenty?

Speaker 11 (01:44:25):
Look, I guess I've.

Speaker 19 (01:44:26):
Been there and done that in certain situations. Yeah, look,
it's never a fun time, he has no doubt. Sort
of collected his thoughts when I had a chat to
James Sandlin's coach and basically got as got.

Speaker 24 (01:44:40):
As a head together.

Speaker 19 (01:44:41):
It was never really going to be a challenging thing
for him until he was looking at a third of tenth,
but he locked him. He knew that he just needed
to get a stuff together and the depth in that
final was not something that was too scary for him.
I guess a lot of guys around him weren't jumping
anywhere near as high as what he's capable of. So
he got it together and once he did, he relaxed,

(01:45:02):
as he did in the world indoors as well. Once
he was in front, he got it stuff together, You're
performed and did what he needed to do.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
How much pressure is there, Roger, when you're lining up
the third attempt at any height knowing that, okay, I
got to clear this all that said, how much pressure
is there and what is the best process to combat that?

Speaker 19 (01:45:23):
I look, I think if I look in a flashback
when when I was competing back in the Middle Ages,
you when I had to talk to your coach you
didn't get to see any smartphones or iPads with what
you were doing exactly wrong at the time, You couldn't
refer to anything. You just basically have to trust what
you know you can do, make sure you've got all

(01:45:43):
your marks right in terms of your take off, and
just try and stay calm but aggressive at the same time,
which is a tricky juggling act. But no, they're never
a lot of fun, but they are a few minutes
to lock in a third attempt clearance, especially when you
take the middle of somebody else with that particular jump.
So yeah, it's always a juggling act.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
How much of high jump there's mental, Yeah, there's a lot.

Speaker 19 (01:46:10):
There's a lot. There's a lot of mental stuff going on.
There's a lot of trying to psych your other guy
out as well, depending on what type of person you are.
If if you're no allows, you're going to come out
like a jumping beam on sprintle out of the track
before you get the race, try and get everyone else's here.
Everyone has their own process. Everyone goes through what they

(01:46:30):
need to do in their own way, some very very aggressive,
some quietly just sort of think about it. But yet
there's a lot of mental stuff going on. You just
have to make sure that you think about you know
where you take offers, that you're hitting your marks and
you run up, and that you're allowing for certain things
around you, whether it be a distraction of a middle

(01:46:50):
distance race and the lanes in front of you, if
you've got alonger run up, et cetera. You just get
to make sure that you lock everything in and do
everything you can do.

Speaker 2 (01:46:58):
If we look at the twelve man field that Hamish
is a part of, where do your eyes land when
you look at his biggest threats for the podium?

Speaker 19 (01:47:07):
I guess when we look at who he's got in
front of him, he's got the joints Olympic champions tam
Burry for Midaly and Basheen pretty well decorated, especially Baschen.
If you look at personal best, Barshines jumped to forty
three and probably should have had the world record before
he got some injury problems around about ten years ago.

(01:47:30):
I think Basheen jumped to forty three. Tamburry recently jumped
to thirty seven in the European Championships, but they both
have a few wishes. Tamburry tends to be a little
bit of ratic, which is a good thing. And he's
actually had a few health issues. I think before he
went into the qualifying he was having few issues with

(01:47:51):
some affections and problem. I think he was still in
the hospital about two days out from the qualifying. Basheen
is fragile. He had a few league issues in the qualifying,
but he can still bring some pretty big heights. Those
who are a danger and the other one as Samuel
Wu from South Korea who won the World Indoors twenty
twenty two. He's capable. He's sort of personal best of

(01:48:14):
two twenty six. I'd say he would be probably in
my estimation, the biggest threat, along with maybe Bashing. That's
what I'm picking. The rest of them, they're just happy
to be there. I think seasonal best probably the highest
of the rest is around about two thirty two thirty
one type of thing, probably n killing the American guys.

(01:48:35):
The other guy that's a threat, Jivorn Horrison, who I
picked as a real danger, had some missus and went
out and qualifying. So Hamish is looking pretty good. He's
obviously top ranked and he's probably got about everyone's there
to worry about. I guess but probably about two or
three dangers for him indsneath have a clean card in
terms of attempts.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
Do you reckon he's got a two forty in him, Hamish.

Speaker 19 (01:49:02):
He has a two forty in them, potentially in a
more relaxing competent and maybe look's if he's a clear
winner here early like he was in the world indoors,
I think two thirty one they were done and dusted
and so he much relax and jump. Two thirty six
Indoors is a little bit different because you tend to
have some quite springy services. I think in twenty twenty

(01:49:25):
two the surface was six meters above a basketball court
on scaffolding, so he told me it was like a
bit of a mini tramp. So indoors too forty maybe there,
I think. I think a clean sheet two thirty five
to thirty six will absolutely lock at him this time.
Don't quite go on that, I guess, but he's got

(01:49:48):
two forty in them, especially with the I guess, the
amount of support and the resource that you get these
days around him, there's definitely one that he has in there.
He's strong enough, he's he's competitive enough, he's got a
good head on him. Not sure if it's today. I
mean seven years ago there was sorry, ten years ago

(01:50:08):
there were seven guys who were jumping to forty and
traditionally there's been a lot of guys in the past.
When I was competing, there was about eight or nine
guys for jumping out.

Speaker 11 (01:50:16):
Of two forty.

Speaker 19 (01:50:17):
So it's possible. And from what I've seen and the
guys in the past fame, it's definitely got the credentials
to put them together for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
And does auto matter Roger, he's twelfth and last to go,
does that make any difference? Positively or negatively?

Speaker 19 (01:50:34):
I guess positively. You can lock in the big jumps
first attent and really put the screws on people. If
you're last and you've got you've got another crack at
it when you see everyone else is going over, so
you do have a chance.

Speaker 11 (01:50:47):
I think first up is.

Speaker 19 (01:50:52):
For myself would be an advantage, I guess if there
is one, because you can lock that one and without
or worry about what anyone else has done. So yeah,
it's worthwhile if you can go first, I think, or
early on.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
All right, well we'll get to see tomorrow morning how
he goes. What you got telling you it feels like
a podium is a real chance. He is a gold
medal chance, isn't he?

Speaker 11 (01:51:17):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (01:51:17):
Absolutely, you know, without sort of being too sort of
I guess over confident. When I looked at the high
jump this year, and you know, I looked at the
depth across the fields, even some of the well decorated
high jumpers, Steph on Holm from Sweden who won in
two thousand and four, he was commenting that the depth

(01:51:40):
and both womans ending high jump was not as I guess,
stacked as it has been in previous times. But Hamish
is right up there in terms of performances anyway, with
all of the recent medals. Back in the day, he's
absolutely a good gold medal chance. I jumped against Charles
often back in the day and he's still got the

(01:52:01):
Olympic record from ninety six. I'd love to think Hamis
could have a crack of that at least. But now
he's he's a he's a great chance that The two
people that I thought were good chances of leading into
this was was Maddy where she who always performs in
big meets, and she did. She did the damage this
morning and and she got well, she had the best

(01:52:22):
overall performances in all six throws, but she came out
with silver, which is fantastic, and Hamish.

Speaker 11 (01:52:28):
Was the other one.

Speaker 19 (01:52:29):
Those were the two that I was really confident. And
you know the rest of them, along of them had
some tough, some tough, tough performances over the last sort
of nine days. But now Hamish is a great chance.
And you know, I lo nothing better than you know,
the high jumping the number one sport for the country
out of the Olympics. Because I'm biased, obviously, but we're

(01:52:51):
all looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
We really, we just coun't wait till breakfast time tomorrow morning,
more slightly earlier than probably a lot of people normally
get up on a Sunday. Roger, great to get your
insight and your expertise. Uh, let's uh, let's see how
he goes. Great, Thanks Jason, Now, thank you Roger. Roger
to the former top high jumper, International high jumper too,
Commonwealth Games and as you can tell, they're still a

(01:53:13):
real student of the sport. He'll be up at five,
will you. I will be five o'clock tomorrow morning is
when the high jump gets underway. Hamish Kerr one of
twelve I see the New Zealand tab has him his
favorite for the gold medal. He is the number one
ranked high jumper in the world right now as far
as PB is concerned. There are a couple in the
field with a higher personal best than Hamish Kurr, including

(01:53:37):
the joint gold medalists from three years ago, Mutar's s
A Barshem of Kata and John Marco Tamberi of Italy.
But often in a competition like this, personal best isn't
necessarily all important. You heard Roger say, look, has Hamish
ker got a two forty and m yes he has,
but it might not be in such a high pressure
situation as this five o'clock tomorrow morning. Don't miss it.

(01:54:01):
You can tune on on Gold Sport via iHeartRadio. If
you don't feel like getting up, just tune in and
listening and we'll bring you all the tension and the
excitement of another tilt at a gold medal. In fact,
before we knock it on the head at three o'clock,
i'll give you all of the times for the key
events involving Kiwi's starting tonight at around seven o'clock and
through the early hours when we come back, though, want

(01:54:22):
to relive what happened off the coast of Marside during
the week are bronze in the Mixed multi hull first
time a New Zealand crew have won a catamaran gold
medal since nineteen eighty eight. I want to talk to
those two sailors when we come back.

Speaker 1 (01:54:37):
You be the TMO. Have your say on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty Weekends Sport with Jason Pin and GJ. Garvnerholmes,
New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Dogs B.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
Two forty five. I'll give you the rundown on Kiwi's
in action on day fifteen of the Paris Olympics. Shortly
but earlier this week, Michael Wilkinson and Erica Dawson won
bronze and Sailings Mixed multi hull race.

Speaker 10 (01:55:02):
So we're seeing the Argentinian crew just ahead of the
kiwis here approaching the finish line. Side well executed by Argentina,
holding on to the silver medal position. They crossed the
line in seventh position in this race and we'll take
home the silver medal.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
They embrace and celebrate a job.

Speaker 10 (01:55:20):
Well done this week, staying right behind the gold medal
winning Italians and there is Michael Wilkinson Erica Dawson cross
the line. It's another medal for New Zealands off Marseille
at Paris twenty twenty four. A bronze for Wilkinson and Dawson.

Speaker 2 (01:55:40):
Yep, a bronze. Indeed, it was for Michael Wilkinson and
Erica Dawson who have been together about five years now
and got their biggest reward to date. I spoke to
the two of them after they won the race and ask,
first of all, what the emotions were like.

Speaker 9 (01:55:54):
Man, it feels good, It's what an amazing experience.

Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
Was so happy rat How frustrating? First of all was
the delay that you had to the metal race. You
were supposed to do all of this yesterday, of course,
How challenging and frustrating was the delay until you could
get out there today.

Speaker 26 (01:56:09):
To be honest, we went that frustrated because it happened
to every other fleet so far, and we know that
the Marseill you gotta expect like conditions and funky stuff,
so we did.

Speaker 9 (01:56:19):
We just took it as it came and knew it
was just part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
You were in a sort of a shootout. Really weren't you,
Mica for bronze with Great Britain Before the race they
were penalized for a start line violation, ruled out of
the metal race. How did you feel when you saw that?

Speaker 23 (01:56:33):
There was a very slight sense relief, of course, and
then we're been going for the argis for silver, but
in Marseille that we've had a lot of races of
banding this week, so it wasn't like a yes, we've
done at moment, it was let's just get this race
finished and cross the line. And then once across the line,
of course, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:56:53):
Tell me about that feeling, Erica, the euphoria. We saw
the vision obviously on television back here, but but how
did it feel when you crossed the line and you
knew that the bronze was yours?

Speaker 26 (01:57:02):
Unreal and a bit of disbelief, to be honest, We're
just so proud, so happy, yeah, and that it all
just worked.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
Out unreal, Micah. Before the race when really, as I
say it was, it was really a shootout in many
ways with Great Britain for the bronze. Was that your
strategy going in before they got the violation that you
were just trying to get there ahead of them, and
how would you plan to do that?

Speaker 23 (01:57:27):
We near the britto, I am going to be super
throwing in those conditions, so we give us a little
bit separation and started further down the line. That was
kind of the plans to just kind of stick to
our own thing and try and for your race.

Speaker 9 (01:57:38):
And then once they got there, once they got the picked, that.

Speaker 11 (01:57:42):
Was it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:44):
The regatta as a whole. Erica, how do you think
you sailed across the twelve races heading into the metal race.

Speaker 6 (01:57:50):
I think it's the best thing. Yeah, it felt like
we're just really.

Speaker 26 (01:57:57):
Sailed really well and just kind of picked at the
right time. So yeah, we were kind of going into
the metal race regardless of how we were just stoked
that we'd put together and good together. So yeah, it's
kind of the cherry on top.

Speaker 2 (01:58:10):
And just staying with you, Erica, how much has your
sailing partnership, the two of you, how much has that
evolved and improved over your what now five years together?

Speaker 26 (01:58:21):
Yeah, we've been together five years now, so you know,
we've been through a lot. We've been through some ups
and downs and you know, out of it or we
always come out strong as a team. And I think
that that was probably one of our real strengths this week. Yeah,
it's just being a strong team.

Speaker 2 (01:58:38):
And Michael, you were twelfth in Tokyo. What did you
learn from your first games that was helpful at your
second Olympics.

Speaker 23 (01:58:46):
Yeah, it was a pretty interesting lead into Tokyo with
the broken leg and then finished twelfth.

Speaker 9 (01:58:50):
Was obviously amazed to be in Tokyo, but pretty gattered.

Speaker 11 (01:58:53):
With the result.

Speaker 23 (01:58:55):
So we knew we had to set up We Anton,
our coach came on board. It's his birthday today, so
this is a nice little birthday present for him.

Speaker 9 (01:59:04):
But that's the experience from the games. You feel a
little more confident.

Speaker 24 (01:59:07):
Coming into day one and then kind of know what
to expect.

Speaker 23 (01:59:10):
I guess in terms of pressure, always feel nervous, but
you know, we managed to keep it under control and
pull it off.

Speaker 2 (01:59:16):
And staying with you, Michael, how much did the meddle
won by Isaac McCarty and Will McKenzie and the means
four seventy the skif how did that help motivate motivate
you to also get on the podium?

Speaker 11 (01:59:27):
Absolutely?

Speaker 9 (01:59:28):
Rat five and will be those two any coach madea
they also so well.

Speaker 23 (01:59:31):
I live with them on tour most of the time,
we had a really nice, really nice thing going when
we just hang out and stay relaxed. For them to
win absolutely wrap and it just motivated us to go hard.
It kind of gave us a bit of belief that,
you know, it can be done. And you know, they
stuck around for the week and supported us, and we
went to dinner and played cards every night. The boys

(01:59:52):
didn't even go out and celebrate too much because they
were there right in our cornerbacking real full credit.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
To them, absolutely full credded them amazing. Well, I know
you've got a metal ceremony to get to that will
be an exciting moment for you and hopefully some celebrations
as well.

Speaker 11 (02:00:06):
Well.

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
Congratulations you too. It's just awesome to see you all
of your hard work rewarded with the bronze medal in
the acroclass. Congratulations. Everybody back here just totally stoked for
you both.

Speaker 9 (02:00:16):
Thanks Finy, Superstow, Thanks Devon who supported us. Really really
appreciate it's super beautiful.

Speaker 6 (02:00:21):
Thank you, Yeah, thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
That's Michael Wilkinson and Erica Dawson, who I spoke to
shortly after they claimed bronze in the Nacro class during
the week. Okay, tonight, here's what you need to know,
Amy Fisher Lisa Carrington in the K one five hundred.
They have their semi final. Amy Fisher's is at eight
thirty Lisa Carrington at eight thirty four. Now should they

(02:00:45):
progress to the final of the K one, which you
would expect them both to do, That is at eleven
o'clock tonight, eleven PM tonight. As far as Lydia cow
is concerned, she teas off at around ten forty in
the final round of the golf. She is the co leader.
Of course. Once we get into tomorrow morning, we're at
the Velodrome for the women's sprint. Elise Andrews and Sean Fulton.

(02:01:10):
Sam Dakin is involved in the men's Karen. There's the
men's Madison as well. I mentioned Hamish Kerb but it's
worth repeating. Five o'clock tomorrow morning, actually ten past five
tomorrow morning is when the high jump starts. The artistic
swimming duet for women. The free routine, involving two of
our swimmers is at five point thirty and then David Letti,

(02:01:30):
our weightlifter, finally gets to get into action six thirty
tomorrow morning New Zealand Time and the one hundred and
two plus kilogram class. Don't forget. You can listen right
through the night to Gold Sport and iHeartRadio will bring
you all of the action and hopefully a few more
medals as well. Thank you for all of your entries
for the darts competition. We will knock that on the

(02:01:51):
head now and Andy has randomly drawn the winner. Well done,
Vaughn Glidden. Vaughan Glidden, You're off to the darts on Friday.
If you know Vaughnie's got two tickets, be nice to
him and who knows you could be off as well.
We've got two more tickets to give away Tomorrow eight
to three, News Talks hib.

Speaker 1 (02:02:09):
The Scoon from the Track, Fields and the Court on
your home of Sport, Weekend Sport with Jason Vine The News.

Speaker 2 (02:02:15):
Talks V two fifty five. That is us Tim Beverage
after three with the Weekend Collective. I'm back in a
couple of hours. Actually, our All Blacks build up begins
at six through until kickoff at seven. Elliot Smith has
the call for you and then we're back on Weekend
Sport tomorrow we'll wrap the All Blacks test any metal
action overnight, which we hope they'll be a bit off,
and other things besides, thanks for listening, and huge thanks
to any McDonald for producing as per usual. What's our

(02:02:38):
exit song today, man.

Speaker 20 (02:02:39):
Jason, get out your ghetto blaster, get out your boom box.
We're bringing home the breaking the breakdance and I've got
a bit of break dancing legions run dmc.

Speaker 2 (02:02:50):
But if it's tricky, some tricky dance moves there, I'll
get my slab of lino out and do a couple
of backspin, shall I please do? Get those freezers going?
What else is there? Throw it down? I've said throw
it down too often. I don't know any other lingo
see them right?

Speaker 10 (02:03:06):
Wrap the run that fight on time, mister Dad, we
don't you talk to Assume on your own?

Speaker 3 (02:03:16):
And Lesten, don't we just leave it alone.

Speaker 11 (02:03:18):
It's like that job.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
But we don't be cheap or stop this disease.

Speaker 1 (02:03:50):
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