August 31, 2024 • 9 mins
James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joins Piney to discuss the All Blacks losing to the Springboks and Lydia Ko's successful golf run.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from newstalk Ed B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Let's get to James mcconey. Are your European tickie tourists? Continuing?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Where do we find you today?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
I'm on the northern tip of Denmark visiting some great Danes,
some old friends of mine who I met when I
was on MYI in Maidstone, south of London and Kent.
So all those years ago me and the Danes forms
formed a pretty strong bond over malely Jim Carrey movies.
That was there where we basically decided, okay, we're going
(00:44):
to be friends for life.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
All right, Well, did you and your friends for life
from Denmark get in front of a TV to watch
the All Blacks at all?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I managed to fire up the laptop and watch the
test which possibly is it an instant classic? I mean,
it's hard to say when the All Blacks lose that
that's the case, but I think it might be.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, a terrific test match. Yeah, and look, most of
the feedback we've had today on the show has been
about the last sort of ten to fifteen minutes the
yellow card to offer to all the FARSI in the
way that the spring Box took advantage and sort of
rolled over the top. What are your main takeaways if
I can use that cliche.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
One is I feel like the Springboks are going to
lift a gear between World Cup years now. They used
to phone it in every now and then and probably
leave a few of their big stars untroubled until they
really needed them in that, you know, sort of nine
months before cycle, you know, so that was the way
they played it.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
But now it just feels that intensity lift.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
We've got something that rivals really stay of origin intensity now,
And I mean we've had Springbok tests like that.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
But they're not always like that.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
So if this is what is going to happen, then
I think I'm all for it because I think it's
going to breathe life into rugby.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Second thing is you could see Brown's.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Handprints all over that spring Box team, some of those
innovative moves.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Off a line out.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
There was just a real sort of brown Esque kind
of vibe to the way they play the game and
attacked wholeheartedly with a ball in hand near the end.
And my third takeaway is probably that the bomb squad works,
and why have we not tried to copy it it
just if you're bringing its Absteencamp, Vincent Coch, Quaker Smith,
(02:39):
Malcolm Marx off the bench and they are doing the damage.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Are we really stuck.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
In an old style of thinking, which is a bench
that just plugs every gap? And are we not thinking
enough about impact rather just more about cover.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
What's interesting because last weekend or sorry, two weekends ago,
the last test News You'll played Eden parkingst Argentina. They
did bring on five at the same time, but it's
a very different situation.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
They were well clear by then.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It was almost like, okay, let's tempted the bench and
give some guys some minutes. Do we need to do
we need to embrace more. Even though we sort of
tend to say yes, it's now a twenty three man game,
should we now actually believe that it is a twenty
three man game?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
That that's the difference. I think I don't.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I don't think we've quite understood what RUSSI has been
doing all these years, which is basically sending people on
to win games and you know, tooth and nail. However,
doesn't matter how it looks, they will They're going on
to finish the job. Whereas I think the All Blacks
feel that that, you know, if they get everything right
(03:46):
and the processes are good and the strike moves work,
they'll be in an untouchable situation with with you know,
fifteen minutes to go. But that's test rugby really and
that's why I feel like Russi is the master. And
to be honest, the most impressive Bomb squad member for
me was Auric Low.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
He made a run from it from a kickoff. Did
you see that?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, three or four players and I was like, oh,
this guy twenty four years old, six ft five loves forward. Okay,
South Africa, we get it. And there's talent there as
well at ten and fifteen. I think, which that we
haven't seen before, that could be you know, could actually
take them through the more World Cups's that's the danger.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, indeed, Well, well look see, I look forward to
seeing how the All Blacks regroup ahead of Cape Town
a week from now. Other bits and pieces floating around today,
Chris Wood got another goal. That's seventy one in the
Premier League now, more than Eric Kintina.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
He's starting to get up into rare a fight.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Air oo ah Chris Wood, Yes, who are Cantona. He
going past Eric Canton is crazy for me. But the
one thing that I think Kuwies need to appreciate with
Chris Wood is that if Nottingham Forest Stay avoid relegation,
it'll be because of Chris Wood and no other player.
And I don't think you can say more about Chris
(05:06):
Wood in the sense that I, you know, seeing somebody
put an entire team, an entire club, famous club, European
Cup winning club on his shoulders is just something to
behold really, and that's I think that's going to be
his you know, his calling card for years is that
the guy who could just make things happen for the
(05:29):
battler and and.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Look, it was a he's a big unit.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It was a headed goal and on target and just
exactly where he needed to be. And I always look
at Chris Wood and just go, there's you know, that
type of player has been outdated for some time now,
but the fact that he's that important and starts games
for a big Premier league club like that, it just
(05:55):
shows he actually is worth every penny. And I'm glad
that we've got someone who's a proper, you know, superstar
of the game.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Now, speaking of pennies or whatever currency you're dealing in
right now. Did you put any of it on lydia
Co last week we spoke last week she was three
rounds in and sort of within striking distance at the
Open Championship at the Old Course of s and Andrews.
Did you get any of your I don't know what's
the Danish currency.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Did you put me on any krona?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Look, I this is the thing, Pinie. I was talking
her up, and even when I interviewed it at the
Paris Olympics before she played, I had a feeling. I
just thought, the way she's speaking, it sounds like she's
going to win the whole shebang. And I mean I
didn't bet on her. Then mean she's probably playing forty
one dollars or something like that. And then like a
(06:46):
muppet when we were talking last weekend again talking lydia
Co up.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
She's in a great position.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
You know, Nellie Cord will be worried about her breathing
down her neck. Sure enough, lydia Coe gets up. Look,
I don't know what the word is for regretting not
making bets. I'm sure there's a German word for it,
like upid batten forgetten or something like that. But that's
that's what I That's what I'm feeling right now is yeah,
(07:14):
I'm happy for Lydia Coe. But why didn't I listen
to the inner sports pundit which says or punter, which goes, yeah,
that that Lidia Coe just looks to be in good
form and just seems to have the weight of the
world off your shoulders.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Indeed, hey, just before you go Bunnings MPC, continuing over here,
you would have noticed that Auckland four from four, but
not in a good way. They've lost all of their games.
Have you sort of been keeping up with it? And
as an out of the box thinker any more thoughts
on on acracting crowds back to NPC.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
This is the thing that worries me, pony. I mean,
I'm missing home a little bit. Even though I do
love the Danes and they're various cheeses and pastries. It's
I still tune in for a bit of Bunnings MPC
and just seeing the lack of crowds is fairly sad.
I mean, what can you do to revive that? How
(08:09):
can you get people back watching rugby? I don't think
the rugby is enough, clearly the marketing side of it.
I mean, I'm sure they're throwing lots of money at it. Look,
I've always felt that it needs to be another event
as well down there at a rugby ground, whether it's
a farmer's market or you know, some vintage merch which
(08:30):
everyone seems to go crazy for these days, or whatever
kind of event that you want to host. Maybe throwing
hay I mean after raygun at the Olympics and breakdancing.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
It could be whatever you want to do.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
They need to think outside of the box because it's
pretty chronic right now, Piney. And I'm sure even your
beloved Wellington Lions are struggling.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, indeed they are.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well they've taken games to Pottydoor Park where excuse me,
I don't mind it. I quite like the smaller grounds.
I know it doesn't increase the side of the size
of the crowd, but it certainly I guess makes it
look a lot better.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And actually it's more of a feel, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
If you're that close to the ground that you know,
or to the pliers at a ground like Pottdoor Park
compared to Sky Stadium, then all the better. As far
as the experience is concerned, is you know? From what
I can see anyway, we're we're swiftly running out of time.
So should we bid each other? How do you say
goodbye in Danish?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Well you do?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You say Favell and vill says, which is I'll see
you later, So Favell visays.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And same to you, James, same to you.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Enjoy yourself in Denmark and we'll cheat to you again
next week.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk sed B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from newstalk Ed B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Let's get to James mcconey. Are your European tickie tourists? Continuing?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Where do we find you today?
Speaker 4 (00:19):
I'm on the northern tip of Denmark visiting some great Danes,
some old friends of mine who I met when I
was on MYI in Maidstone, south of London and Kent.
So all those years ago me and the Danes forms
formed a pretty strong bond over malely Jim Carrey movies.
That was there where we basically decided, okay, we're going
(00:44):
to be friends for life.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
All right, Well, did you and your friends for life
from Denmark get in front of a TV to watch
the All Blacks at all?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I managed to fire up the laptop and watch the
test which possibly is it an instant classic? I mean,
it's hard to say when the All Blacks lose that
that's the case, but I think it might be.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, a terrific test match. Yeah, and look, most of
the feedback we've had today on the show has been
about the last sort of ten to fifteen minutes the
yellow card to offer to all the FARSI in the
way that the spring Box took advantage and sort of
rolled over the top. What are your main takeaways if
I can use that cliche.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
One is I feel like the Springboks are going to
lift a gear between World Cup years now. They used
to phone it in every now and then and probably
leave a few of their big stars untroubled until they
really needed them in that, you know, sort of nine
months before cycle, you know, so that was the way
they played it.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
But now it just feels that intensity lift.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
We've got something that rivals really stay of origin intensity now,
And I mean we've had Springbok tests like that.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
But they're not always like that.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
So if this is what is going to happen, then
I think I'm all for it because I think it's
going to breathe life into rugby.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
Second thing is you could see Brown's.
Speaker 4 (02:08):
Handprints all over that spring Box team, some of those
innovative moves.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Off a line out.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
There was just a real sort of brown Esque kind
of vibe to the way they play the game and
attacked wholeheartedly with a ball in hand near the end.
And my third takeaway is probably that the bomb squad works,
and why have we not tried to copy it it
just if you're bringing its Absteencamp, Vincent Coch, Quaker Smith,
(02:39):
Malcolm Marx off the bench and they are doing the damage.
Speaker 5 (02:43):
Are we really stuck.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
In an old style of thinking, which is a bench
that just plugs every gap? And are we not thinking
enough about impact rather just more about cover.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
What's interesting because last weekend or sorry, two weekends ago,
the last test News You'll played Eden parkingst Argentina. They
did bring on five at the same time, but it's
a very different situation.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
They were well clear by then.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
It was almost like, okay, let's tempted the bench and
give some guys some minutes. Do we need to do
we need to embrace more. Even though we sort of
tend to say yes, it's now a twenty three man game,
should we now actually believe that it is a twenty
three man game?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
That that's the difference. I think I don't.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
I don't think we've quite understood what RUSSI has been
doing all these years, which is basically sending people on
to win games and you know, tooth and nail. However,
doesn't matter how it looks, they will They're going on
to finish the job. Whereas I think the All Blacks
feel that that, you know, if they get everything right
(03:46):
and the processes are good and the strike moves work,
they'll be in an untouchable situation with with you know,
fifteen minutes to go. But that's test rugby really and
that's why I feel like Russi is the master. And
to be honest, the most impressive Bomb squad member for
me was Auric Low.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
He made a run from it from a kickoff. Did
you see that?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah, three or four players and I was like, oh,
this guy twenty four years old, six ft five loves forward. Okay,
South Africa, we get it. And there's talent there as
well at ten and fifteen. I think, which that we
haven't seen before, that could be you know, could actually
take them through the more World Cups's that's the danger.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Yeah, indeed, Well, well look see, I look forward to
seeing how the All Blacks regroup ahead of Cape Town
a week from now. Other bits and pieces floating around today,
Chris Wood got another goal. That's seventy one in the
Premier League now, more than Eric Kintina.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
He's starting to get up into rare a fight.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Air oo ah Chris Wood, Yes, who are Cantona. He
going past Eric Canton is crazy for me. But the
one thing that I think Kuwies need to appreciate with
Chris Wood is that if Nottingham Forest Stay avoid relegation,
it'll be because of Chris Wood and no other player.
And I don't think you can say more about Chris
(05:06):
Wood in the sense that I, you know, seeing somebody
put an entire team, an entire club, famous club, European
Cup winning club on his shoulders is just something to
behold really, and that's I think that's going to be
his you know, his calling card for years is that
the guy who could just make things happen for the
(05:29):
battler and and.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
Look, it was a he's a big unit.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
It was a headed goal and on target and just
exactly where he needed to be. And I always look
at Chris Wood and just go, there's you know, that
type of player has been outdated for some time now,
but the fact that he's that important and starts games
for a big Premier league club like that, it just
(05:55):
shows he actually is worth every penny. And I'm glad
that we've got someone who's a proper, you know, superstar
of the game.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Now, speaking of pennies or whatever currency you're dealing in
right now. Did you put any of it on lydia
Co last week we spoke last week she was three
rounds in and sort of within striking distance at the
Open Championship at the Old Course of s and Andrews.
Did you get any of your I don't know what's
the Danish currency.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Did you put me on any krona?
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Look, I this is the thing, Pinie. I was talking
her up, and even when I interviewed it at the
Paris Olympics before she played, I had a feeling. I
just thought, the way she's speaking, it sounds like she's
going to win the whole shebang. And I mean I
didn't bet on her. Then mean she's probably playing forty
one dollars or something like that. And then like a
(06:46):
muppet when we were talking last weekend again talking lydia
Co up.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
She's in a great position.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
You know, Nellie Cord will be worried about her breathing
down her neck. Sure enough, lydia Coe gets up. Look,
I don't know what the word is for regretting not
making bets. I'm sure there's a German word for it,
like upid batten forgetten or something like that. But that's
that's what I That's what I'm feeling right now is yeah,
(07:14):
I'm happy for Lydia Coe. But why didn't I listen
to the inner sports pundit which says or punter, which goes, yeah,
that that Lidia Coe just looks to be in good
form and just seems to have the weight of the
world off your shoulders.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Indeed, hey, just before you go Bunnings MPC, continuing over here,
you would have noticed that Auckland four from four, but
not in a good way. They've lost all of their games.
Have you sort of been keeping up with it? And
as an out of the box thinker any more thoughts
on on acracting crowds back to NPC.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
This is the thing that worries me, pony. I mean,
I'm missing home a little bit. Even though I do
love the Danes and they're various cheeses and pastries. It's
I still tune in for a bit of Bunnings MPC
and just seeing the lack of crowds is fairly sad.
I mean, what can you do to revive that? How
(08:09):
can you get people back watching rugby? I don't think
the rugby is enough, clearly the marketing side of it.
I mean, I'm sure they're throwing lots of money at it. Look,
I've always felt that it needs to be another event
as well down there at a rugby ground, whether it's
a farmer's market or you know, some vintage merch which
(08:30):
everyone seems to go crazy for these days, or whatever
kind of event that you want to host. Maybe throwing
hay I mean after raygun at the Olympics and breakdancing.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
It could be whatever you want to do.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
They need to think outside of the box because it's
pretty chronic right now, Piney. And I'm sure even your
beloved Wellington Lions are struggling.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, indeed they are.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well they've taken games to Pottydoor Park where excuse me,
I don't mind it. I quite like the smaller grounds.
I know it doesn't increase the side of the size
of the crowd, but it certainly I guess makes it
look a lot better.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And actually it's more of a feel, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
If you're that close to the ground that you know,
or to the pliers at a ground like Pottdoor Park
compared to Sky Stadium, then all the better. As far
as the experience is concerned, is you know? From what
I can see anyway, we're we're swiftly running out of time.
So should we bid each other? How do you say
goodbye in Danish?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
Well you do?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
You say Favell and vill says, which is I'll see
you later, So Favell visays.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And same to you, James, same to you.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Enjoy yourself in Denmark and we'll cheat to you again
next week.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk sed B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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