Full Show Podcast: 8 September 2024

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Speaker 3 (00:31):
Welcome in to Sunday afternoon. This is Weekend Sport. My
name's Darcy water Grave, sitting in the hot seat, vacated
temporarily by Jason Pine. You got me through till at
three o'clock this afternoon, seven past midday. It is. It's Sunday,
the eighth of September, and we've got a few birthdays
to celebrate, and we've got plenty of show to unload

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on you as well. I'll give you a quick rundown
of what we've got up in store for you. Tamothy Ellison,
one of the many assistant coaches from the All Blacks,
joins us after another loss, after the fourth consecutive bat
at the hands of the spring Box. What now? What happened?
How was your bench? Will take your calls well on

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O one hundred and eighty ten eighty text nineteen ninety two.
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know the drill. Up after one o'clock celebrating Paralympics and
the paralympian Anna Grimaldi didn't defend her long jump title,
but she push that to one side. And this morning,
just after the All Blacks managed saw the bedjeets, she

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ran off the two hundred meter victory will be joined
by her. Up after one o'clock. Campbell Parata did something
quite extraordinary yesterday. Just calm your farm, Annie McDonnell, and
I know you're excited. Tasman have never done this before.
Marlbra have just over the hill by the way, but
the ran Philly shier was gone. Hawk's Bay, have let

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go of the log of wood. Campbell Parata kicked the
winning penalty from our No. Forty forty five fifty sixty
eighty meters out. He joins us on the programme James
mccony back in New Zealand after touring around the Northern
Hemisphere to give us his take on the week in sport.
Up after two o'clock. Another Paralympic. This Paralympid, excuse me,

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the best probably we've ever had. Eleven gold medals, nineteen
in total. Medals. I think Dame Sophie Pasco joins us
to discuss the games in full and the attitude of
those athletes. Cricket starts tomorrow night. Ajs Patel joins US
black Caps taking on Afghanistan. Who gives the skinny on

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what happens and how much he's looking forward to Mumbai.
I think a lot, just quietly, and we'll finish the
program off with a bitter football. The NFL got Underwagh
yesterday carries on throughout the weekend. Our American corresponded, My man,
my friend from Fox Sport Radio. Ben Maller joins the program.

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That's the master plan for the eighth of September, and
the master plan for these people is to celebrate their birthdays.
Spencer and New the roosters prop is twenty four today,
Sherman Gil turns twenty five. It's quite young, I though
it was, but older than that. Quite a surprise. Twenty five.
The Indian cricketer Bruno Fernandez midfielder added. Manchester United ticks

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over the Big Three to zero and Joss Butler thirty
four today the English cricketer here you go, done and
Dustin for the start of the program. This is week
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after twelve.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
When it's down to the line.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
You made a call on eight ten eighty weekend for
it news Talk zv flable.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
To the All Blacks nine minutes in Size African Territory.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Taylor's taped on South Africa side.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
And I'll pick it out in South Africa sat the
Old Blacks eighteen tills and for the.

Speaker 7 (04:15):
First time and simity five years, the Old.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Blacks close, four straights.

Speaker 8 (04:22):
Turn their old phone.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
It's South African Joy and top town.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
It's the Freedom Pup's South Africa's cup.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's Elliot Smith with the call for News Talk gaz
to b yep four on the bounce, familiar sight now right,
fourth straight lost to the spring box and to empty
the bin over. This will be joined by All Blacks
Assistant coach Timothy Allison and he joins us on the
blower at Tamody. That's a that's a tough day at

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the office on the part. Look, the chances were there
from time to time execution in the end, you just
couldn't get it over the line right to first up
your initial reaction to it's what happened in the game.

Speaker 9 (05:08):
Yeah, I think you're your smelters is pretty accurate there
and we saw those same same things.

Speaker 10 (05:14):
So it was obviously gutted and it's quite changing them
at the moment. We had our opportunities key moments.

Speaker 3 (05:21):
As far as your team are concerned to Tumanty, do
you think there's any area where you could have done better?

Speaker 10 (05:27):
It's all pretty raw.

Speaker 9 (05:28):
Now take me a while to get through the tape
tonight and tomorrow morning to give you a real accurate
coaches description.

Speaker 10 (05:37):
But yes, there's just some obvious ones around down.

Speaker 9 (05:40):
There half of the field and then the big swings
they capitalized when they got down to your end and
were probably.

Speaker 10 (05:46):
We miss a few chances when we were down their end.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Statistically, Talmente, there wasn't a great deal of difference between
the two teams in South Africa. They just got the
whip hand when necessary. But do you think it's fair
enough to say that you're you're getting close?

Speaker 11 (06:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (06:02):
I think that is fair.

Speaker 9 (06:04):
It was definitely a Tessa match and as you said,
with the you know, the stats very even and you know,
pointing it there for for a very long time. So
I think that's that's accurate.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
As far as coaching is concerned, Talty, yourself and the
rest of the crew, are you satisfied that you armed
your players, that you gave them the tools they needed,
and that they applied that on the park.

Speaker 9 (06:29):
We're super proud of the efforts around the collision and
the intent. I think that was the same last week
so the Africa World champion team and then a big
side and I think and we definitely matched them in
the physical side of the game.

Speaker 10 (06:42):
So you know, we're proud of the boys and the efforts.

Speaker 9 (06:46):
I'm not sure if that answers your question, but that
the boys definitely showed, you know, the attitude and the
commitment of the Jersey one hundred.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Per Obviously, the result wasn't great from a team perspective tality,
but individually, there really were some pretty fine performances out there.
I suppose when you look to players that is that
the young fellow Wallace a Titi, he stood out. He
really really did his job and I think was one
of the shining lights here.

Speaker 9 (07:15):
Yeah, an exceptional A Lee a polite young man, and
as you said, he was young and he's got a
very bright future.

Speaker 10 (07:23):
So I'm proud of as if it's as well tonight.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
What about the bench, Tumtee. A lot of debate last
week around how that bench was utilized throughout the game,
suggested Fletch, and you'll probably came on too late. You
looked at Lomax and he looked gassed, and that's where
the mistakes came from. So as far as application of
the bench, you're happy enough. Where do you sit with that?

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (07:47):
Yeah, I couldn't answer that accurately. I'm gonna I'm on
the ground running water. So there's probably a CHRISTI for
for one of the other coaches.

Speaker 10 (07:56):
A wee bit of time to strategize around how we finished.

Speaker 9 (08:00):
The end, to be fair, especially when you're talking front
rowers as well, it's.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
Pretty much played type, didn't they and they executed. I
think that's the most important thing. When it came to
their box kicking, when it came to their contestable kicks,
they had it right on a dime, and of course
it took guys like Will Jordan out of play and
it really tested your team. I suppose you saw that coming.

Speaker 9 (08:26):
I think you know it's DNA four that rugby box kicking,
big kicking and compete contests in the air. That's they
had it for a long time and they do it
really well. So that's you know what they are where
they are at the moment. Yeah, we saw it coming
and you have a plan around it. But as I said,
they're really good at competing in the air and disrupting

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ball and there.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
What's your philosophy, what's your edict around when to take
three points when they're on offer and taking some criticism
last week around that this time around, some turned down,
some taking, some missed. Is there a thought that maybe
these should be taken regardless of where you are as
far as the points are concerned.

Speaker 10 (09:08):
Not regardless.

Speaker 9 (09:09):
So you've got to you've got to take points on
context and in the floor of the game cards you know, No,
it's not Yeah, you're dealing with the context where we
think we are forgot the momentum, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Plenty of yellow cards being flashed around during the exchanges.
Tality from your viewpoint, do you feel that the officials,
the referee I dealt with the applications of yellow cards
in a fair fashion.

Speaker 9 (09:34):
Yeah, I'm actually unsure as the seat of the balance
of penalties. I'm being running the water on the really
have a computer in front of me. I thought that
done a good jobs. It's as loud out therefore for
the referees as it is for the players, and they're
doing their very best. So again, will have a good
look at the tape and and probably have more information

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for you tomorrow afternoon.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Credit where credits do though, the South Africans played some
great rugby. They have been for quite some time now.
It's almost reminiscent, reminiscent of the heyday of All Black rugby.
They're a difficult team to stop and they can stop
you guys too. Looks like with I won't say relative ease,
but this is a talented team. You have to be

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impressed with what they bring to the park.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, no, we are.

Speaker 9 (10:24):
You know, they're winning those pressure moments for a reason,
you know, the World champions for a reason.

Speaker 10 (10:29):
So yeah, they deserve that.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Tonight, seven game three losses coming to hardly ideal for
the start of this coaching groups tenure. So what happens
now moving to the next part of the championship.

Speaker 10 (10:44):
Are The key is, you know, let's still honest conversations.
It's consistent process.

Speaker 9 (10:49):
It's max if at making sure we're putting in the work,
you know, and and helping.

Speaker 10 (10:54):
Build the players weak to week and keeping in.

Speaker 9 (10:56):
The group tight. And I don't think that would change
when's or losses. That's that's what the Josy demands and
it's our commitment to it.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Spoke of Wallace Satiti and what he provided. There's a
lot of players out there who played a good game
of football, and again the target lies on Cody Taylor.
He's in a rare streak of form right now, isn't he.

Speaker 10 (11:17):
Yeah, I'm not sure if it's real.

Speaker 9 (11:18):
He's pretty consistent Cody, you know, he's doing that week
to week of you know, manage.

Speaker 10 (11:24):
A coach for a few years, and he is an
impressive rugby player for sure.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
What happens now, Tom Tegue, as far as decompressing, unpacking
and all of those cliched terms, what has to happen
before you start up again in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 10 (11:40):
Yeah, recovery now obviously a wee bit of trouble.

Speaker 9 (11:42):
So make sure the players, you know, look after the
bangs and bruises and make sure we stick tight as
a group, becauseever we we've bet a time away from
each other, get back and see our families and our
loved ones and then get connected up and Nottralia ready
to go again.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
And on that it's the end. Tomo Ty Ellison, thank
you so much for joining us here on Weekend Sport.
Assistant coach of the All Blacks. After suffering defeat again,
the hands of the spring box lines are open for
your thoughts, for your calls, any which way you'd like
to go. It's nineteen minutes after twelve. It's a Sunday afternoon,

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eighth of September. That number is eight hundred and eighty
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Speaker 1 (12:33):
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Speaker 3 (12:43):
Twelve twenty two. Your calls now eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
It's all about the All Blacks after the defeat of
this morning in South Africa. Pete welcome to the show,
your first art mate.

Speaker 12 (12:55):
Here you going here? So they actually start. Now, I
re what old Raide has gotta do. He's got to
spend a whole week just discipline the rules. They let
the basic understanding of the rules getting yellow cards. And
also too, they're not focusing on the ball. You watched
the play. How many times that ball foot on the ground.

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They should be watching that ball like gold bar and
bouncing on it quite off of that bulls.

Speaker 11 (13:22):
They should be.

Speaker 12 (13:23):
Bouncing that ball of centers that's free, free to jump
on the damn thing. They saw that lack jumping on
that ball when it's three to be jumped on. They
were almost like they're wanting theirself. Happened to jump on it.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
That was many times now guilty of that last week
as well, And it was a massive hole. Wasn't there
behind the ruck where there was just nobody there? That
it happened a lot this morning. I'm trying to wrap
back from it. I think I saw it once, maybe twice,
but yeah, and I think the the adherence to the
rules is super important plaining, but you've also got to
take into account the nature of the referee and what

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they are doing. And you've got to play to their
whistle into their minds. Something I found and Peak thanks
for your call. Fascinating about this is how quickly the
ball had to be removed. Use it, Use it. It
had been in there like one second. Use it, use it.
Not quite sure what period it was from the top
high Mark, how are you?

Speaker 13 (14:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Good Darcy?

Speaker 11 (14:16):
Yeah, the referee.

Speaker 14 (14:18):
I don't think it's just an over the two matches,
and I don't actually think it was world class referring
considering you've got the two best sides in the world.
I actually thought both sides deserve better officiating than we've
gotten the two tests, to be honest, very cool you've got,
yeah Africans. I mean, you know, just mentally this team,

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parent team in the World Cup, just so so mentally tough.
And the fact that they just keep getting up over
us in the last you know, twenty minutes of the
game is a testament to have goodness side. And how
well they're rolling at the moment. You know, they went
through the World Cup. I think they won three games
by one point. You know, they didn't really haven't really
thrashed the All Blacks. I don't imagine they'd be super

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happy with a lot of their play they did.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
They were faultless, but they know to take to win.
And we always say it doesn't matter one point. It
doesn't matter. One point is what you need, Like the
way you reference how good the spring Boks are even
though they did play perfectly, they knew how to play,
when to play, and they know how to win. And
that's what the All Blacks used to be.

Speaker 15 (15:23):
Like.

Speaker 14 (15:25):
Yeah, and I think I think a weakness to me
is I mean, obviously you can see what they're doing
with them, but under pressure, he's not performing. You know,
he missed that kick to put us in front right
at the end, which was was a you know, a
pretty easy kick to be honest, I mean I thought
that was pleased commentators gone, It's just I mean, he

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shouldn't have made it even like you know, question that.
I mean, that was a very Do you think that
was an easy kick or not?

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Oh, I don't know. I've never placed kicked the ball
at Cape Town under the pressure of an All Black jersey,
so I can't say it's easy. Just unfair. Look, it
should have been fairly simple for a goalkeeper at a
goal sorry goal kicker at that level.

Speaker 14 (16:12):
Yeah, and I think that's that's probably my point. But
I think under pressure and he's not. He's not the year.
As you just mentioned, this is the highest pressure, hot,
hardest game in rugby for any team just to go
to South Africa and win. So we've got to got
to cut a bit of slack there. I think the
weakest part of the game at the moment is just
out kicking. I don't think it's world class. I think

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there's a lot of good point points about our game
at the moment. I thought Sam Caine is probably to me,
you know, his resilience to come back from what he's
been through mentally last year in the World Cup, and
I thought he played it was one of the outstanding players.
I think he's saved to try by tech clans, probably
the most dangerous person in rugby colby to save a

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try it, you know, in the first half that boy.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Hey, Mark, thanks for your reflection on that. We're going
to carry on with the calls. Oh one hundred eighty
ten eighty have you say here at z B Julian high.

Speaker 11 (17:08):
Mate? How are you?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
I'm not so bad yourself?

Speaker 12 (17:11):
Great?

Speaker 16 (17:12):
Hey, I was just thinking about about not being too
hard on Razor because you know, he's got to be
given some time to establish connections with those players. Those
players have got to be had time to connect with
each other. He's got to stamp his coaching style or
philosophy on the game. You know, it takes time for
the players to adjust to him as well. So I'm

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just saying it takes time to build a world class
team again, and South Africans have done it. They had
their time when they were in the in the Dolbrons
and rescy Reestmus has got them going and built them
up and it's taken time and look where they are today.
So we've got to go through the same thing.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
There was a situation that went on for a number
of years where one coach had the next coach as
an assistant coach and so on and so forth. It's
how Ian Foster ended up with the jobs. So the
association with the man themselves who was the men themselves
who are playing and the coach was already there because

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of that succession plan. So don't your point, your mate
is probably fair. Although there are a number of crusaders
in that side, this is fresh and new. So yeah,
if you want in the business of cutting slack by
all means. But Julian, are we in the business of
cutting slack because this is the All Blacks after all.
I think we hold them to pretty high standards, don't we.

Speaker 16 (18:30):
Yeah, we do, But you've got it. It takes time.
You can't instantly have a you know, a world class
team with a new coach to turning up and new
players and everything's new new coaches, new players, new situations,
and we're wanting, we're wanting just so much out of them.
I reckon that that wasn't There was a close game
last night and All Blacks didn't do too badly at all,

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and they definitely improved on the week before, and so
they're moving in the right direction. I reckon, just give
them a bit more time and they they'll they'll, they're gonna,
they're going to do this.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
You're a very forgiving character, Julian, thanks very much for
that positive and put twenty eight minutes after mid day,
how much do we miss an attack coach and Liam
McDonald and we know they can't score in the last
twenty minutes, but no tries, no scores. There's some alarm
bells there, right, Surely there are eight hundred and eighty

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ten eighty lines are open, so the sports talk on
News Talk ZBM Darcy, Hello Goose on weekend sport excuse me,
old habits die hard good? I does? How are you?

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (19:33):
I don't know whether I should be talking to you
or whether you should just flip back and play my
call after the first Humor's game, because we're in the
same situation and it is what it is. I don't
think the refereeing was overly terrible. From what it was
or for who it was, we couldn't have expected much better.

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But we're in the same situation I said back then,
where Raisers on the hiding to nothing, being handed the
worst all black team in history in the professional era anyway,
where we haven't got an international quality first five. I
challenge anybody outside of probably the second game to let

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me know when we saw any real game management out
of McKenzie. We've seen no back line really across all
of those tests for most of them anyway.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
So is it a case of dragging Boden Bart if
this indeed is the problem, and I understand and I
get your point, I don't know if Damien at that
level is actually capable of a constructing a decent and
sound game plan. But what do you do now we've
got no more Wana? Do you drag Boden and do
you let him carry on?

Speaker 16 (20:46):
What?

Speaker 3 (20:46):
What's the solution here? Goose?

Speaker 13 (20:49):
Yeah, Well it's not Boden Barrett because he was Player
of the Year and the first year the world Player
of the Year and the first year he's got he
got it, and then he's gone backwards ever since, and
he's just as bad as Mackenzie. It's a horrible concept.
I think he's going to solve it.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Who's there? What do you do? What do you do?

Speaker 13 (21:07):
Well, that's the problem. The best chance we've got with
what we're looking at with the people that raises named
is Harry Plummer. But when we're talking about a legacy
that Hanson and Foster have left us with this ten
fifteen idiocy that we've seen for two cycles, and now
we've got no first five available in the country, and

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that are doubled down on that idiocy by securing Barrett
and giving Richie the big middle finger, and so he
bug it off and now we've got nothing. That's what
we're the situation we're in. We're a good couple of
years at least of this kind of hidden this against
any decent side, because we haven't got a game manager.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Game controller, game manager arguably the most important player on
the part Goose, Thanks for that, was appreciate your time,
ross your arm. What have you got?

Speaker 14 (21:59):
Well he does?

Speaker 4 (21:59):
How are we doing that today?

Speaker 17 (22:00):
Hey, I'm growing by the box.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
A fantastic years. It was to the is the spoil
It was they they are the All Blacks of you
know of recent times that they know how to win,
they know how to get the job done, and he
cannot take that away from them.

Speaker 14 (22:17):
Yeah, well it does.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
I mean if even if I mean, if you look
at the stats from the game, I mean the All
Blacks I think they beat thirty seven defenders today. They
didn't score a try that eleven clear turnovers, you know,
the box turned you know, the box turned down five
clear shots at goal. I mean the box played really
like the All Blacks of old. And I even thought
watching that game, I thought, man, he was going to
come back to wunt us not taking these chances, you know,

(22:40):
because normally threees are given the park who always sacrifice tries.
If they've got a clear opportunity to take the three,
they'll take the three on, and I thought they just
had that belief and I think also they believe in
the physicality, you know that I knew that it would
pay off in the end, and so they just kept
on persisting. And there was a lot of a lot
of peculiar things, I mean from the from the all

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black side, I mean I thought, I mean, at one
point when I was watching the game, I thought, Whire's
Wallace a teating and he had a phenomenal game. I
was extremely happy to see him go off. I was
extremely happy to see Bowden Parratt come on after sixty
odd minutes. You know, there was and not obviously there
are three players off the Pence that they didn't even
bring on, you know, and you're playing the Box and
you're trying to match their pysigality and their pomb squad.

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I mean, a whole lot of talk during the week
was how do we match the bomb squad? And Rulda
thought that they have three first players sitting on that
bench not coming off, you know, and it was I
think a lot of that was a telling part that
it was the spring Box called it slow poison. They
have the first team start, then they have the bomb squad,
come on, and it's a slow poison that they give you,
you know. And yeah, there's a lot of peculiar decisions.

(23:46):
And I think one of the callers mentioned correctly. I mean,
Damon mckens is a real good player, but not so
in terms.

Speaker 14 (23:52):
Of game management.

Speaker 7 (23:53):
You know, a lot of the kicking, you know, left
a lot to be.

Speaker 14 (23:56):
Desired as well.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
Now is a good player as a good half back,
but I don't think he's going to give you impact
coming off the bench, you know. So there's a lot
of question marks that I think was around all blacks
that played our advantage there as well.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, and I think that it's really difficult Ross and
thanks for your call. When you're coming into the team
in the shadow of Richie Muwanga, of Dan Carter, of
Bowden Barrett and his pomp. It is difficult and it
is a key position. This is raised his problem now though.
And you mentioned the subs bench and how it gets used,

(24:32):
and we had this discussion last week on Sports Talk
of an evening. I asked Tummoty about it before. How
that's managed is key? Is it being managed in the
correct fashion or in an effective fashion? And you'd have
to say no, it isn't hi.

Speaker 18 (24:51):
Tom am gonna Yeah, terrible, terrible game, Well terrible to
the sense that we've got issues. I think McKenzie is
an issue. I think that could be an issue to
who is the leadership where you've got all the barrets
having a bit of a captain c or a leadership

(25:13):
role where I think Scott's relying too much on his
brothers maybe to try to guide or drive that back line,
and there is nothing there. And even Jordie, right, Jordie's
normally has a great seven out of ten game. He's
been quiet for the last few games, and I can
only see that being because McKenzie is no one can
read McKenzie.

Speaker 14 (25:33):
He's a bit like.

Speaker 18 (25:34):
A Carla Spencer of Yesteryear, where he has a couple
of good games and then he has a couple of
shockers and no one can read his game other than him.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
That's not a good way. Well, it's not a fault
from can't be in that position. They've got to have
that sixth sense. Is it a matter of time before
who he was inside and outside of him realize I
understand what he's doing. I know the term Tom blowfly
on a bottle has been used quite a lot, very
difficult to predict. Hard for the opposition, but just as hard,

(26:07):
if not worse, for your own teammates.

Speaker 18 (26:09):
Well, certain, I think he's had enough. He's had enough
opportunity over the past few years. Right, so even Foster
was tinkering around with them, couldn't get their raises hit
a couple of goes. I think you need to cut
your losses with them. There's Plumberg I got told even
Reuben Love Potentially I know he's fallback, but maybe they
try something new, completely different. But or they've got to

(26:31):
pay to get my hunger back, simple as that they
get off the ground jewels and get my hunger back.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
Oh to hear that. Good on you, Tom, Thanks very
much for your inport. One hundred eighty ten eighty lines
are open twenty four minutes to one. Still to come
up on the program up after one o'clock. We'll talk
with Ana because she made everybody happy after that All
Blacks defeat by Willing winning gold in the turn of
meter dash at the Paralympics. But more of your course
on the all Blacks right here, right now, Bruce High.

Speaker 19 (27:00):
There you're going one thing that no one's talked about
is Aman McKenzie thing. I agree with, we just either
have to live with him or try something different. But
he's not going to be the answer. Everyone sort of
agree to that. But I think it's a combination of
him not being the answer and then people like Tyrel
Lomax doing it like a schoolboy bonehead move in kind

(27:22):
of sixty thousand people right at the end of the
game and getting yellow carded by obstructing Kolby.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
That was but could you put that down?

Speaker 18 (27:29):
It was?

Speaker 3 (27:29):
But could you put that on the fact that he
is a prop He was on the field maybe far
too long, and that was a direct result of him
being gassed. He was tired. I don't think he did
that deliberately. I think he was tired. He was lazy,
That's what that So did.

Speaker 11 (27:44):
They get it?

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Did they get him out earlier?

Speaker 19 (27:47):
The possibly? But that was a definite left move. You
look at the replays. He definitely moved left because Colby
is such a dangerous player and he was you know anyway,
but when.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
You're tired, you make poor decisions, don't you.

Speaker 19 (27:59):
Good point, but so just I know you go through
us quickly. But the other thing, if they're so focused
on kicking close and stuff. The ones that hit really
kicks me off is the Box. When they come to
a line out, they transfler the game down. They take
thirty seconds to get to a line out, but at
the end of the game when they're behind, they get
there instantly. I reckon there should be a clock on

(28:19):
a line out as well as clocking on everything else,
half backs and everything else.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
Game management. They take whatever opportunity and chance they can.
And I mean you look back at the great Richie mccaun,
people's like a cheats is he know what he does
because he pushes the law as fast as he can.
He pushes it as close to the line as possible,
and that's what he did so well. So you've got
to give credit to the spring Box. They can get
away with.

Speaker 19 (28:42):
It, right. It's a combination of McKenzie knocking the right
guy and then when we had in the corner we
knocked the ball on and you know, just small errors
under pressure that the bricks never used to do, and
the combination of McKenzie not being the right guy. Thanks
to your time, mate, well good good talk back.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
And Bruce, thanks very much for participating. It is a
twelve thirty eight thees talks there B. This is a
Week in Sport them Darcy Water Gravelle. One and eight
is the number to call. We're talking All Blacks. What
else more of your calls coming up next here on
News Talks it be.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
The Big Issues on and after Fields Call eighty ten
eighty with GJC homes.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
New Zealand's first trusted home Milder News Talks it.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
BB eighteen to one. This is Week in Sport on
News Talks A B. Taking your calls on the All Blacks.
We have got a power of text. I can't get
through them all. I can hardly start because I'd actually
rather talk to the people ringing me up. We'll start
with Jared, what have you got for us? Yeah? Illo, Jared, goodbye, Jared, James, Hi,

(29:48):
how are you? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (29:50):
Thanks mate? I'll I hope somebody who isn't get my
name wrong. I am. I. I mean that was the
most painful three am wake up that I've had for
a long time. And I think that gave Yeah. I
think they could the ghost the All Black said. But
one of the things I liked that I saw when
they were having passages of play, even though they were

(30:12):
fumbling and dropping you can see a new technical back
line coming in, like some of the cross passes and
everything that they were doing. And then I was really
thinking about South Africa and South Africa is rarely the
ghost because they're now a Northern Hemisphere teape. They play
in Northern Hemisphere rugby most of the time. That's where
all their you know, super level games are played.

Speaker 11 (30:38):
Kind of.

Speaker 20 (30:40):
They do.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
That was what the Southern Hemisphere held over the Northern
Hemisphere for decades was that we were so tight in
that South Africa, Australia and New Zealand that no one
really knew how he played. And Scott Robertson, My only
point really is Scott Robertson pointed out at the very
beginning of his tenure, before he even set foot on
the field with his team, he said, we need to

(31:03):
be able to get our players that are playing and
internet competitions back to New Zealand and we need to
scrub away with us role of if you're not playing locally,
you can't play for our national team. And I think
that South Africa they're in the best of both worlds.
They know how Southern Hemisphere rugby works very well. But
they're also very deep into the dish and understanding how

(31:26):
Northern Hemisphere rugby works now too.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
James, you make a couple of really good points. I'm
sorry to drop. We've got heaps of calls to get
through in so little time. Jared A, you're back with me.

Speaker 11 (31:36):
I'm back with you. Darcy. How are you? Mate?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Good?

Speaker 3 (31:38):
Lay it on the line. What have you got?

Speaker 11 (31:40):
What have I got? I don't worry about the all backs, Darcy?
What about the tens and Marco's last night? Marca a
rubber of a game.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
There's no essence at old Marty. But yeah, Michael, it
was something else. And we're talking to the guy who
basically won the game. Coming up? What time are we
going to do? About past one? We've got Campbell Parata
on so you can listen to them, Jared, we're going
to cover it.

Speaker 11 (32:02):
Oh great stuff. What a stay he was to come
on and kick the winn and god, I thought we'd
lost the game after the Hawk'sway came back so well
to come on and kick the winning goal and to
see their emotion for you know, I'm a prayer more Burian,
and to see the district win the ren Feely Shield
since the rear Devil was in nineteen seventy three for

(32:24):
the Prayer Union of Pairsman, it's just just fantastic and
I'm just so proud of the boys and fins up.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Absolutely good crowd, heart of the game of rugby union
and reassuring to know that the shield still has gravity,
it still has weight, and hopefully with that weight it
won't be dropped to the floor and smashed by the
muckle or utilized in any other fashion. Let's get on

(32:52):
to our next call. Going back to the ABS, I
think Phil high.

Speaker 21 (32:55):
Oh kid, I see how you doing?

Speaker 20 (32:57):
You good?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
What's up?

Speaker 11 (32:59):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (33:00):
Very frustrating game that last night. I got up at
three am to watch it.

Speaker 22 (33:05):
Actually, callers are.

Speaker 21 (33:06):
Bringing up some good points that I hadn't thought about
too while I've been listening about maybe have we got
a game running, you know, a game player in that
throust five? Now is themat capable of doing that? Maybe not? Well,
maybe time will tell. Molves Early in and when I
listened to the break the panel afterwards was said, maybe
we just got to face the fact that, you know,

(33:28):
we've just got to take a couple of years for
this all black team to geel and get to where
we were, you know, because it's a new process and
we're learning. But yeah, what was what I found frustrating
was like I thought, I actually thought that they played
better last week in the harder conditions in terms of
the higher altitude, and as soon as that game started,

(33:50):
I just thought, oh, we're going to be struggling to
win this one. And throughout the game. One of the
things interesting about saying about the attack coach, you know,
in the situation with McDonald even and looking at our attack,
because at times we looked like we were going to
break through, but we just couldn't. And then they got
frustrated and tried to throw those fifty to fifty passes
quick to create something that really quick and hope. But

(34:14):
a lot of the time too, I noticed last night
made it so frustrating was when we were on attack,
a lot of time we bumbled the last pass or
fumbled it.

Speaker 19 (34:23):
You know.

Speaker 21 (34:24):
There was the time when we were right up while
their goal line. Is just one example. Yeah, when one
Barrett brother threw the throw the ball to the other
Barrett brother and it hit him in the chest or
the face or falcon it, you know, because he was
didn't even expecting it. And just things like that happened
all throughout that game.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
TJ Parrenara Petty Nara to Barrett. I'm not because I
heard Barrett and Barrett when on the commentary, But regardless,
it doesn't matter. I appreciate. I know what you're saying, Phil,
and that that accuracy, which I've been banging on about
for twenty years, was a huge difference from the All
Blacks and other teams. And if you can't seal that

(35:00):
at key moments, not going to win the pressure that
the opposition put on you. You can apply that concept
of accuracy successfully, It's huge. That's what the South Africans do.
Your decision making us to be so fast, you're actually
so on point, and in those cases it's not great.
Martin and I well, Martin, have you deserted me? There

(35:26):
we go, Martin, lay it on the line. What have
you got?

Speaker 14 (35:30):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 23 (35:30):
Interesting? I think you know, I think some caller is
a bit harsh and on McKenzie, I think it's time
and the seven he needs, and I think, you know,
we're going to take some positives out of the game.
You know, I thought the first time up, I thought
he had a tremendous game Okay, he might have missed
one tingle be on the side there down the blind side,

(35:53):
but you know, in general he ran hard. I thought, bye,
he had and I thought he had a great day.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
He really is looking the goods, isn't he. I mean
patch of twee plowto gone. But but he's really grown
into that role.

Speaker 14 (36:07):
I fully agree.

Speaker 23 (36:08):
And I think, you know, there'll be a few callers
out your you know, schoolwards would be thinking I was
value the man, But you know what, he's grown into it,
and I think I think that's exciting. I think, you know,
as you say, it's hard over there, and I just think, look,
we're not that far away.

Speaker 11 (36:25):
You know.

Speaker 19 (36:26):
I think low mix.

Speaker 23 (36:27):
I think what you pointed out fatigue, I think that
was a fact of it.

Speaker 19 (36:31):
Deafinitely.

Speaker 23 (36:32):
I think he should have been pulled probably five minutes earlier. Penalty.
He gave a way a penalty down down in their
twenty two clapped and I think he should have been
pulled then. So I don't understand why they didn't clear.
You know, they had three more on the bench. I
know what happened the previous week, but I mean, hey,

(36:52):
that's what it's about. I mean, you've got to give
these guys time pressure, you know, on the field.

Speaker 14 (36:58):
So you know what I'm not.

Speaker 23 (37:01):
You know, I'm not too upset by the result. I mean,
all I see is that I think we're going forward,
and I think that's the most important thing.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
Martin lovely positivity. It's a whip, it's a work in progress.
So summarize some texts shortly just before one o'clock, Carl,
give it.

Speaker 11 (37:22):
Haven't go good?

Speaker 22 (37:25):
I just want to how many of you listeners know
what position Boden Bear it played when he got planner
in the year? No Boden Bear? Yes? What the hell
are the all back sleectors trying to fires into full
backs and wings under full becks or full backs and

(37:46):
the wings there? Give mccrack I can't do any worse
than what they've done. Of what's raiser As somebody said,
he's just supposed he's lost three games. Get Bear a
shot put mckensey. Beck's bringing it on you counter attacking,
and get Will Dordan back on the wing.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Well, there's a lot of things to think about, Carl.
And the sad thing about this is that the next
team that they're playing, and the Wallabies, and we're not
going to learn anything. Waller Bees were on a bit
of a tear for the first half and then they
got rolled by Argentina. Now Argentina are a good team.
They beat us. They ain't me wrong, but I don't

(38:22):
know if the Wallabies have got anything. So we'll play
them and we'll retain the letters loow Cup and everyone.
I'll go, we're back on the right track again, but
yet really against the tenth best team in the world.
Not looking good. Quick text summary because someone said, why
don't you just summarize the text, get someone else to
read it. We haven't got enough staff really work hard

(38:44):
at a McDonald. I'll summarize the text for you. People
are ripping on Damien McKenzie. They really are in the text,
and I won't read them verbatim because some of them
are a wee bit nasty. There's a lot talking about
Muanga and saying he really wasn't all that anyway, and
he made his own decision to go overseas so he
didn't get drop kicked by the union. He went over

(39:07):
for money to feed his family, and good on him.
It's one that says, look, Hoskins Setutu should have been
in the side that was a big mistake that he
would have matched the strength of the bock Ford's fair court.
All I can say is go the poolas see some
awesome rugby in this morning camera. Reguard makes a difference.
A few texts have said that other people have defended

(39:30):
Mackenzie saying, look, this is one particular text. The root
causes a poor decision making by the coach and the
initial selection and the use of the bench. You can't
lay it all on Mackenzie. That speak of mental blocks
in the all black teams and talk of Ian Foster
and how he must be feeling right now after he

(39:51):
got well pillared by everybody after his results and looking
down to Braser and going whoa. But it's not a
case of bringing back Fozzy raises it from now on.
He's got four more years so we've got to run
with it right. We have to this this news talks eb.
You're on Weekend Sport. My name is Darcy Walter Grave.

(40:11):
Great to have you all on board. You keep those
texts running in. I'll try my best to lay them
out on you between now and three o'clock coming up shortly.
It's News Sport and weather up after that We're going
to talk to the successful Anna.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
GRIMALTI analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting
world Weekend Sport News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
A few texts around, where's Razor Robinson? Why didn't he
front the media at the end of the game, Well
he was on Telly. I don't think that ZB the
sole media. I really don't tumo Ty Allison maybe not
the most active talker there is. I think out of

(41:00):
all the coaches, it's god Is and I really enjoyed
talking to Jason Ryan is there to coach, not to
talk to the media. We got what we could out
of them, and I thank the All Blacks for putting
them up and putting them on the program. Right, we
got them, we chatted to them, so be it, and
that winds up the hour of All Black angst outplayed.

(41:25):
I was more upset last week at the inability to
play in the last twenty. This time around, we just
got beaten.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
The only place to discuss the biggest sports issues on
and after fields, it's all on weekends Ford on your
home of Sport News Talk Siby What.

Speaker 8 (41:44):
We're going.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
Seven after one on a Sunday Act of September twenty
twenty four. This is weekend Sport on Darcy Water Grove,
sitting in for Jason Pine. Two more hours to go
coming up, and there's an hour. Well we've got for you, cam.
But after the hero of the Muckle picked up the
Ramfhilly Shield for the first time, took it away from

(42:13):
the bay, he joins us. Later, James mcconey is back
in New Zealand. I'll have a word with him as well.
They're coming out here and now we're gonna have a
conversation with a woman who did us all proud. She
picked up the very first gold medal at the Paralympics.

(42:37):
She joins us. Now her name is Ana Gramalley and
hang in there, take a listen to this. On the
inside of the New Zealand.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
I say, he's looking supremely good. She disappointed and the
long jug finishing and fourth position, but she's looking up.

Speaker 8 (42:54):
At the screen already.

Speaker 5 (42:55):
It's going to be Ana Gramaldi who takes it. Brittany Mason,
I think has taken the silver medal. But what a
performance from Ana Gramaldi. It is a new OC record, well.

Speaker 8 (43:11):
A lifetime best. An OCA record.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
Twenty four zero point seven to two is the champion
in the T forty seven women's two hundred meters final.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
Wow, and what a desk there was, Anna, we are
so proud of you. A ripping time for you over night.
Of course in the evening you said on time, first
thing this morning, this time around qualifying final itself, tearing
away for gold.

Speaker 24 (43:38):
Yeah you could.

Speaker 25 (43:38):
Oh, thanks for having me, honest, and you've been such
a crazy forty eight hours to me. Yeah, I could
see it on the big screen that I was in front,
and I knew that I wasn't going to let anyone
pass me. I wasn't I wasn't running out of guess
before the line.

Speaker 24 (43:53):
Yeah, I couldn't hide.

Speaker 25 (43:54):
I think I would be terrible playing poker because I
would give way fight a great hand like immediately. So yeah, yeah,
it's hard to keep it in though prolemic.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Champ must be hard to keep it in. But there
must have been a p when you got out in front.
You when and don't mess this up from now?

Speaker 11 (44:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (44:13):
There were always is I mean, there's always an opportunity
to miss it up, and I think, yeah, I just knew.

Speaker 24 (44:18):
I just knew that, like I had enough in me
to get to that line.

Speaker 25 (44:21):
And I would have fought with everything in my body
to get there and to run such a good time
as well, Like I'm yeah, I'm incredibly I'm just proud
of that alone. I would have been over the moon
with just that time and for it.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
To be a gold is incredible and Oceania record I
believe in oh so close to a world record too.

Speaker 25 (44:42):
No, I can't believe that actually that time, that that
time's crazy, like the time from this morning. I was
incredibly shocked and like proud with that. And then I
knew that I'd slowed down, and so I guess just
trusting that I had to give everything tonight and that
I could give everything I'd trained for this, and I
knew that I me as a person, my personality wouldn't

(45:04):
even let this opportunity get away with that in a
really good crack, And yeah, that's what we did.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
So you knew toward the end that you were winning
the race? What about round the Beam? Did that flick
through your thought? Like, hold on, I'm in the lead here,
talk us through that period?

Speaker 25 (45:21):
Yeah, for sure, I think, like to be honest, like
we were talking about it in the middle area and
we were saying like we could have been the only
ones on the track, Like it felt like it was silent,
but I know it was so loud because the crowd
is incredible, And I think, yeah, I think I knew
just as we were coming off the ben that I
was in the front. But it's like, not a time
to get complacent. These girls have probably ran far more

(45:42):
twos than I have. And I also didn't really know
what my body was capable of. I knew that it
could blow up, like I'm used to running thirty minutes
six times and with a jump.

Speaker 24 (45:51):
At the end, and so you never know, like am
I going to make it to the end, But you
know I knew I was and with a shot.

Speaker 25 (45:58):
If I could get in the lead hitting onto the strait,
or even not in the lead, I could be up
near the leader, I'd have a shot it.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
When Yeah, Paralympic turned to meet a gold Medalistan Grimaldi
joining us, tell us about the time between when the
qualifying finished and the race itself actually started. That would
have been a very interesting period to be in your head.
What did you go through?

Speaker 25 (46:23):
Yeah, I think it's been funny because I haven't really
ran that many two's.

Speaker 24 (46:28):
I ran them earlier.

Speaker 25 (46:30):
On in my career, and then I broke my foot
the last time I tried to run one professionally at
the game at a World Champs, and we decided I'd
even do them again, So she just threw it out.

Speaker 24 (46:40):
Of my mind.

Speaker 25 (46:41):
And then last year's World Champs rolled around and I
remember watching the final and going, you know what, I
think it's time to have that conversation about maybe doing
the two hundred again, and my coach was fully on board,
and I think this morning I was quite nervous because
I actually didn't know what I was capable of running.
I mean, I knew I was probably a pretty good
knock after that one hundred, and to be the now

(47:05):
in a position and after that, after that first race,
I think it just instilled a lot of confidence in
me that I knew that put me in a race
with anyone, and I will fight till I can't buy
any more to get to the line. And yeah, I mean,
I just think it relaxed me because I now knew
how fast second I could run, and.

Speaker 24 (47:27):
Yeah, and then then faster again, which is even crazier.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
What happens now? Do you drop everything else and just
become a sol two hundred meters specialist.

Speaker 24 (47:35):
Yeah, I don't know. No, I don't know at the moment.

Speaker 25 (47:37):
I'm on holiday already and I'll be obviously well reflect
on everything.

Speaker 24 (47:44):
I mean the long time.

Speaker 25 (47:45):
Yesterday was really hard for me because because that's my
bread and butter, that's what I love to do and
what I'm good at as well, and it was just
hard to not be able to show up the way
I wanted to yesterday. But I got so many incredible,
incredibly supporting and loving comments yesterday and messages and just
from people I don't even know, so just saying how

(48:07):
proud of me they were, And I think that really
spurred me on for this, hearing that everyone you know,
still was interested in me, still believed in me, regardless
of how I did in the long jump.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
So yeah, after that long jump, you'd be harder on
yourself than anybody possibly could be. So when you went
into the ton of meters, was it a case of
revenge for the long jump? Jumping through your mind?

Speaker 25 (48:34):
I did say revenge, and I mean I wanted revenge
on the two hundred race. The last two races I ran,
I ran in Rio and I stepped on the line
and got disqualified and then my last two hundred race
at a Champs was in London the year after, and and.

Speaker 24 (48:51):
And I broke my foot.

Speaker 25 (48:53):
I mean, I'd been having trouble with my foot, but
it really gave out mid race. And so I knew
I loved doing the two hundred back then, and I
knew I wanted to eventually do it. But we did
just take it off the cards, like we decided. We
decided to we decided to not run it ever again,
like that was it. We'd signed it off. And I
think being able to be in a position I trust

(49:13):
in my body enough to handle the training and to
handle being out there on the track and running the bend,
I think, yeah, I wanted some revenge on that event.

Speaker 20 (49:21):
It had been mean to.

Speaker 24 (49:22):
Me, and I wanted I wanted to get it back.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
You've had a pretty successful games and a grimordy so far.
The gold obviously the cherry on the top at the
end of that, but looking back at the whole process
and the whole games, I expect you you carry that
quite lightly. You'd be absolutely stoked.

Speaker 24 (49:42):
Yeah, for sure, I'm so. I'm so happy.

Speaker 25 (49:45):
I mean, I would be incredibly happy regardless of the
outcome tonight like.

Speaker 24 (49:50):
I've put I've put forward.

Speaker 25 (49:52):
I put myself out there more than I ever have before,
and that hundred was was more than I.

Speaker 24 (49:57):
Could have hoped for.

Speaker 25 (49:59):
And then today to be able to back it, and
with two TVs and the two like two massive TVs,
it was just, yeah, I'm really happy with how I
performed it and to be how to pick up from yesterday.
I don't think disappointed is the right word. And yesterday
I'll have to figure out what I how I feel
about that, probably on a beach somewhere on holiday. But well, yeah,

(50:23):
just how I was able to get back in there
today and didn't let it discourage me.

Speaker 24 (50:27):
I think, Yeah, I'm really proud.

Speaker 3 (50:29):
We'll let you go shortly, Anna, and go and celebrate
with your friends and your family, your Paralympic family and on.
That enormously important for yourself to pick up the medals,
but I'd expect just as important, if not more, for
the team themselves.

Speaker 24 (50:47):
Yeah, I'm so.

Speaker 25 (50:48):
I feel so lucky to be part of such an
awesome team. The vibe in the village is incredible. Everyone
is wanting to see Rondo so well, and it has
been so supportive of even me. Yesterday when I didn't
do so well, and yeah, I can't wait to celebrate
with them, especially tomorrow at the closing and been out
a shit. I just think that's the best thing about

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being success was, or even getting to compete at.

Speaker 24 (51:11):
This level, is getting to share it with other people.

Speaker 25 (51:13):
And the games, the Paralympic Games are the most incredible thing.

Speaker 24 (51:17):
They changed my life.

Speaker 13 (51:19):
I was.

Speaker 25 (51:21):
Just I don't know, there's something's vicial. I hope they
change other people's lives too, because it's yeah, it's changed mine.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Thanks for joining us, and we're celebrating for you back
here in ak Tirolla. You enjoy your time off knowing
that you've got no rocks under your beach. TWL, thank
you very much for pairing on the program and for
doing what you did in Paris.

Speaker 24 (51:42):
Thank you so much, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Thanks for joining us. Such delight, such joy. And Grimaldi
there who are not only picked up the one hundred
meter bronze in the T forty seven this morning it
was around about five o'clock picked up the T forty
seven two hundred gold and by quite the margin makes
up for the fourth and the long jump of course,

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to time defend Paralympic champion in that's a discipline. But
it's all okay now she's picked up the gold. What
a time. She's had quick text on that as well.
So happy for anage's win. But an amazing interview after
the long jump will be my enduring memory of these games.
She has a massive ticker and he thanks very much

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for that text and more on the Paralympics up after
two o'clock will be joined by Dame Sophie Pasco. As
we look at the Olympics, or the Paralympics as a whole,
playing is not quite wound up yet. Closing ceremony up overnight,
but she's been all over it of course. Nineteen medals,

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eleven golds, numerous world champions as well. One of our
superstars of swimming at the Paralympics, it's Dame Toby Pasco
joining us just after two o'clock. Now coming up short
in the program at Campbell Parato will join the show.
He was the superhero wearing the Muco cape up to
Hawks Bay, fog in the shield literally in the last

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minutes back down South and defending it up against Wellington.
Had a couple of texts for that as well, saying
I'm not overly stoked, except for the fact that now
Wellington gets try and take it back off them again.
Now Wellington's still unbeaten, and again it'll be a clash
of till unbeaten sides like it was yesterday between Hawks

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Bay and Tasman. Phenomenal stuff in the NPC. A couple
of live sport updates for you as well. In the
far Up Palmer Cup, the Wakata women's team. This is
fifty two minutes through the game, leading Hawks Bay two
twenty nine to twelve. Yesterday a few games went by

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one of the two cyclones betting at North Harbor Hibiscus
thirty one nil. Wellington bested o'dago fifty one thirty Tasmin
women they beat the Paderanaki woman thirty nine thirty six
and the Northern Woman beat the Canterbury Sorry, the Northern
woman got rolled by the Canterbury woman at twenty four zip.

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In the football, this is New Zealand the All Whites
taking on Mexico. Mexico got off to a quick start
where coming up twenty minutes in the game Mexico leading
New Zealand one nil. And I won't tell you what's
going on in the UFC because he's not really a
score of run. It's just two four grown men covered

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in tattoos beating the absolute not out of each other.
This is News Talks AB. You're listening to Weekend Sport
on Darcy Watergrave. Coming up next, we're going to talk
success in the shield. Mister Campbell Parata joins us here
on News Talks edb.

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Speaker 3 (55:04):
News Talks a Baby one twenty three on Weekend Sport.
What a day for the top of the South Island.
Ran Philly shield is off there finally.

Speaker 8 (55:17):
In the left boot of Campbell Pudata. He's about forty.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Eight meters from the posts thanks to Tamatama. Now why
can they steal it?

Speaker 12 (55:27):
Hit the death?

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Pardata lines up the posts. He'll have the distance.

Speaker 8 (55:33):
He's got a good boot on him.

Speaker 5 (55:34):
Direction is key Parata towards the uprights and.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
That's over Tasmin Tasmin when the Renfurly shields for the
first time in their young history. Okay, so not the
first time to the top of the South Island. Because
he's been here before. Ninety seventy three Marlborough managed to
pick it up. But for Tasman Marco relatively new franchise.

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This new club can both Nelson and Marlborough, first time
for them. Haven't been to Nelson before. Then, I love
that so and he calm down. Bruh Andy McDonald's and
Nelson boys still celebrating. Still jaheeing. I'm glad he didn't
bring his jugg And that's fantastic. They picked up the
shelf for the first time and now we're joined by

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the bloke get this on as a replacement eight minutes
to go when he turned up. Suddenly he's the hero
that kicks the match. When his name is Campbell, Parata Campbell,
welcome to the show. Congratulations near I say it. How's
your head? Must have been a big night last night.

Speaker 17 (56:47):
Yeah, it was a great night.

Speaker 15 (56:49):
We're just at the airport about to get on a
flight back to back home.

Speaker 17 (56:53):
So now the boys are in good spirits day. It's awesome.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
The end of the game. I know another colleague of
mine just about turn the TV off. He again is
a Marco fan and he was going I can't cope
with us. But the end was it was tough tother now,
wasn't who went in there and caused the ruckers as
they were trying to basically hang on to the ball
and defend that lead the penalty. You basically ran straight

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and grabbed the ball, didn't you.

Speaker 15 (57:19):
Yeah, it's awesome, Like we we actually trained that simulation
a lot, trying to try to get the ball back
with a minute to go. So we have a play
that we try to do. We get gym in there
and it works, so we trained it and then yeah,
I knew. I knew it was in my range when
I seen where he got it from. So but it's awesome,

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like the boys backed me straight away. When you get
that from the teammates, you know you have the confidence
to have a shot.

Speaker 17 (57:47):
So I was pretty pretty happy that it went over
over obviously.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
Okay, I've been told fifty forty six, forty seven, forty eight,
doesn't matter. It was a long way, candle.

Speaker 17 (58:01):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 15 (58:02):
I think one of our coaches picked some grass up
from the spot after I kicked it, got it with him.

Speaker 17 (58:07):
So yeah, but we'll just say forty ish fortyish, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Yeah, it was a long long way and for you.
Wasn't it your first touch of the ball since you
come on?

Speaker 15 (58:20):
Yeah, so came on with eight to go. We're sort
of on defense the whole time. They ended up scoring
and then older in my seconds, I kicked kicked off
after they scored, and then uh, the next next time
I touched the balls was the kick. So yeah, it
was awesome games come on and be able to do that,

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especially for for the region, but Nelson for Marlborough's.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
So talk to us about what was flying through your
mind before you took that kick? What kind of kick
your eye?

Speaker 11 (58:53):
Do you do?

Speaker 3 (58:53):
You do you picture it? Do you panic? Do you
go into a blank? How does that work?

Speaker 11 (58:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (58:59):
It was pretty It's pretty good, like especially this week
we trained a bit. But in those situations after training
would muck around with some of the boys, say, you know,
pretend we're kicking the gold.

Speaker 17 (59:11):
To win the win the shield sort of things like that.

Speaker 15 (59:13):
So but yeah, as much as you know, I'd like
to say that.

Speaker 17 (59:18):
I was calme, you know, cool, collective and all that,
it was. You know, you obviously thoughts come through the mine.

Speaker 15 (59:24):
About you know, if and butts and all that, But
as soon as I had it, it was sort of heading
to the right post and then five ten meters to go,
it's sort of just snuck in. So I was I
was happy when the flags went up for sure.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Cambrill, Pilota, you took the air out of McLean Park.
I expected that the fans would have just gone, ah,
you are kidding me, and you guys would have reveled
in that silence.

Speaker 17 (59:48):
Yeah, No, it was awesome. Like man, the crowd was
huge there.

Speaker 15 (59:51):
I couldn't couldn't get over it when they scored with
a couple of months ago. It's honestly the loudest game
I've been a part of. And then to be able
to put it back on them after the after the
siren was awesome. And then just to be with the
lads after the game, and just people like Quentin McDonald's
played over one hundred and twenty games, have never never
touched the shield, you know, to get.

Speaker 17 (01:00:12):
It for him and people like that just specially means.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
He You've had a pretty rotten year. You've been rotten
couple of years. To talk us through what happened with
the Force, what you're a couple of year contract over there,
but what you hardly played? Did you just fell apart
talk us through that.

Speaker 14 (01:00:28):
That was it.

Speaker 17 (01:00:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:00:29):
So I was over at the Force for Super but
picked up a.

Speaker 17 (01:00:35):
Shoulder injury heading over there, had a.

Speaker 15 (01:00:38):
Shoulder reconstruction surgery, so that took me out of my
first year, just rehabbing that completely and then coming back
from that, ended up doing a great for HAMI tear
off the bone.

Speaker 17 (01:00:52):
So that was the second year fully out. It was
a good a good period out of the game, just
in rehab.

Speaker 15 (01:01:00):
Some some tough times obviously, just constantly being written rehab.
But no, like we sort of spoke about it last night,
To be able to sort of stay at it, stick
in it, and then to be able to have a
moment like last night sort of makes it all or
worth it really, so yeah, and I was just just

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grateful to be back playing, really especially after yeah, like
the past couple of years.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
So relatively young. What are you early twenty twenty three,
twenty four something along those twenty four What happens now?
Have you been like piastering super Franchisers for a job?
What process?

Speaker 17 (01:01:40):
Nothing like that at the moment.

Speaker 15 (01:01:42):
Yeah, sort of previous years I used to, especially when
I was injured, used to get worked up about you know,
the next contract and whatnot. But at the moment, just
enjoying enjoying the rugby day by day sort of thing.
And now the culture at Tasman's unreal. It's probably the
best place I've ever been at. So I'm just enjoying

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my time here and you'll see what comes from it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
You Also, next week, I've got your first defense up
against now that I'm well, you're unbeaten. Now you managed
to roll Hawk's Bay there I went, and now you're
up against Wellington next week. Your potty too, are born.
Does that mean extra to you going there and take
well then coming over and taking that on.

Speaker 17 (01:02:23):
Yeah, it'll be awesome.

Speaker 15 (01:02:25):
My parents still live in Wellington up the Carpety Coast actually,
so no, it'll be awesome to diverse Wellington. Obviously born
in Wellington, but I didn't spend too much time there,
but you know, it will be awesome, especially as a.

Speaker 17 (01:02:42):
Shield defense game. So that'll be awesome, especially at home.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
You're raised in Western Australia, I seemed to I'm interested.
You spent a lot of time over there.

Speaker 17 (01:02:52):
Yeah, exactly so my me old man.

Speaker 15 (01:02:55):
He sort of worked over there as he does still now.
He still works in Aussie. Yeah, so we shot off
there when I was when I was pretty young, grew
up over there and then ended up going to boarding
school in in Queensland at TSS, the Southport School. So yeah,
it was awesome time over there. But it's good to
be back home.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Must be great. And what about the Ymea Wobblers, how
are they feeling right now? Even in touch with them?

Speaker 11 (01:03:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:03:23):
Yeah, Now we've got a we're taking the shield back
to the Wobblers club rooms and I think it's Wednesday,
so that would be good for me and Macka to
get back there and get it around.

Speaker 17 (01:03:33):
Like I said before, like we probably.

Speaker 15 (01:03:35):
Don't know the extent of what the shield means to
so many people in the region, so that'll be awesome
the next couple of days be able to get around and.

Speaker 17 (01:03:44):
Get out and about. So yeah, looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Campbell Plato, I've got to ask, have you guys been
schooled on a protocol around the shield, like you know
what not to do off it, what not to drop
it on and so forth.

Speaker 17 (01:03:59):
Yeah, yeah, we have.

Speaker 15 (01:04:00):
We have had a little chat last night about it.
Our team manager's actually got a nice photo of with
a with a fizzy drink on it, drinking a fizzy
drink off it, So now will be responsible and make
sure we look after it for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
And then finally over the hill and Marlborough they can say, wow,
well that's the first for the Marco, but not the
first the district because we picked that up back in
seventy three. But for the market as a club, this
is huge, celebrated. Enjoy it, treasure. It's an incredible tonger
and I know that all the crew up there, I
will love you guys to bring it a back. You

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look after yourself, look after the shield and defend well
next week next time against Wellington.

Speaker 17 (01:04:42):
Awesome, appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
We appreciate you for picking the phone up Campbell Parata,
who kicked the winning penalty to send the whole Michael
District into huge celebrations and picking up that shield. I've
just been told off by Andy McDonald. Here I was
thinking I was being all smart and mentioning the name
of the team he comes from. Apparently not the Wobblers,

(01:05:07):
it's the Wobbers. So if you're out there from that district,
I'm really sorry I got that wrong. And here I
was and he thinking of us being oh, so clever
came back and bite me in the backside. No, you
did pretty well. But yeah, why I'm here old boys wobbers,
wobbers w o B. He was older boys, so wobblers
makes more sense than wobbers. Wobbler. A nickname doesn't have

(01:05:30):
to make sense. It's a good point. So yeah, up again.
Of course you're quite happy. I'm old boys.

Speaker 26 (01:05:36):
Absolutely only legends come from that right club, like who
Ah Cable Andy McDonald.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
I used to play the term a right flying back
for Wednesday night to celebrate this shield. I could you
should You should just pretend it's a work trip and
claim on it.

Speaker 26 (01:05:59):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'll do that now. But we'll just
quickly scrub this from the on your logs, shall we. So,
bosses don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:04):
I don't know what you're talking about. One thirty four
This is News Talk ZEBB. Thirty three minutes gone in
the game of football between New Zealand and Mexico. Mexico
still leading one nil after scoring very early on. In
the piece the wake Up a women leading, Wake Up Women,

(01:06:25):
excuse me? Leading the Hawks bay twoy thirty nine to twelve.
We're in the sixty third minute of that game. We've
got a few more texts have come in around various subjects.
I'd love it if you're joining, and so honestly, Sky
Sport are hopeless at not showing the all Whites games anymore.
Fever TV are hopeless and it goes on and on

(01:06:48):
and on. Are know that bad? FEVA? Plus I don't know.
I don't watch a lot of football. I think it's
on the TV up here. It seems to be working fine.
At least you can get it right. Maybe you just
need to get your daughter or your son to climb
on board and show you how to log on to
these things. Other texts still around what happened in the
Rugby last night? It's okay to admit you and the

(01:07:12):
one eyed guys got it wrong. Even the lambs are
crying out for the knife to be wielded. A hope.
Joe Schmidt doesn't ask Leon to come on over. I
think that is premature, I really do. And I don't
think people were calling out for Fozzy's head for quite
some time. They did eventually, but this is still very

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early doors And we had a caller in the first
hour talking about the association with the coaching staff and
the team and how long it actually takes to bed
that in until you buy into someone's narrative and how
they coach and what they expect. And you remember the
succession plans that ran right the way through the All

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Blacks for many, many, many years. So the assistant came
in as the head coach and everybody knew what was
expected because they've been working under them before, and that
went right the way through Henri to Hanson to Foster.
This is a new broom, So I think you've got
to give them some time. And hey, it's South Africa.

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In South Africa, they're the world champions. They are on fire,
they're playing fantastic rugby. Yes, we hold them to a
high standard. They are the All Blacks. They demand that
by their results over the last one hundred years. Right,
but we can still complain we're still a Loud's cut
them a wee bit of slag. This is news talks,

(01:08:40):
heb it is one at thirty six. James mccony is
just around in the corner there on Weekend Sports.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
You be the TMO.

Speaker 1 (01:08:49):
Have your say on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
Weekend Sports with GJ. Guberhomes New Zealand's most trusted home
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Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
It's twenty to two James mcconey. Shortly, we're just trying
to rain them in. Now find them down the back
of the couch or drag him out of there and
have we yarned to them a couple of texts for you.
It's the Auckland struggling club scene that's giving out all
black woes. Thanks Jeremy. Nice to know that someone's putting

(01:09:19):
the boot into something else rather than Damian McKenzie or
Scott Robertson. That's saying when Auckland rugby is strong, New
Zealand rugby is strong. A huge amount of time there
when Auckland rugby was strong and New Zealand Rugby are
like kind of third So maybe that's not entirely true,
but yeah, Club Rugby and king or which sits on
the down, although with the Wahina once suggest Club Rugby

(01:09:43):
is the only place of growth right now. Anyway, enough
of that, let's say I get on to James. We've
found down the back of the couch today, mcconey, is
that where you've been all these months? Don't try and
tell me you've been overseas.

Speaker 14 (01:09:55):
A little bit of overseas and just down in Tadanak
for a conductive education fundraiser. Incredible people are doing education
for disabled kids. And Wayne Smith was one of the
keynote speakers, and so some of my opinions this morning
may be influenced by the professor.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
So we got them with you now just put them
on the phone.

Speaker 14 (01:10:18):
Not exactly, it's a much better idea. And can I
just give you some some kudos for the first part
of the hour with Anna Grimaldi and then Campbell Patata,
just absolute unbridled joy. So I'm guessing this is the
miserable part.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
No, no, no, don't don't be smiling for me, James,
you don't have to be miserable. You're not texting in
come on, someone texts it and the naki is taking
it from the muck or up the naki that's from
chop So would you buy into that as well? Would
you do?

Speaker 11 (01:10:50):
You know what?

Speaker 14 (01:10:50):
I love the shield so much. I had a quick
look and thought if there was a one match tenure
for the rest of the season, so it just keeps
on going around. I think Otago ends up with it
if everybody loses a first challenge. So there you go, who.

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
Treats it the worst? And I'm not gonna go along
this lines. Already did that with let's talk about what
you want to talk about All Blacks South Africa. Shed
some light on it, please.

Speaker 14 (01:11:14):
Yeah, well, I thought your call has made some great points,
but I am going to zag where they have zig
and I will actually stick up for Damien McKenzie, not
because I'm a punishing Chiefs fan, but just because I
think at first five there's a lot of nuances to
that position. And I know that everyone goes on about
game management and that's totally fair enough, but also in

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test matches of that magnitude of game management is that
big a problem, then the coaches have to take some
responsibility there because you watched that last quarter and I
think there were several mistakes from a number of all blacks,
including you know, great all blacks, and I don't think
mackenzie apart from off the tee. Yes, I know that
was a problem the kicking, but I don't think he

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was as a fault as many think.

Speaker 3 (01:12:00):
Well name them. You can't just throw muddet people and
not name them. Who are the great all Blacks? Are
they great? All Blacks in that side. What mistakes they made?
Come on, James front up.

Speaker 14 (01:12:11):
Well, I mean I think you know exactly like well,
I think we've got a drop ball from the captain.
There was several breakdown penalties and you can go in
and talk about One was for not releasing one was
for an incury clean out. There was a yellow card
from Tyrell Lomax. I'm just talking about all these mistakes
in the final quarter.

Speaker 11 (01:12:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:12:32):
Dmac missed a couple of kicks, but I just think
there needs to be some perspective that is a team sport.
And by the way, if we are talking about kicks,
I think Jordie should be taking the long range goals
and don't at me because he has got in golfing terms,
he's the driver and d MAC is the three iron
and I think he's got ten meters more range and

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so he should be taking those fifty meter plus kicks
and leave dmac on the short range ones, although admittedly
he did miss one.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
And I'll pass that message on to the All Black management,
not that they are taking any of my advice, but
so be it. So we get away from that, go
to the ran fairly shield the storied career of this
log of wood continues. And when you think about the
history of rugby in this country and the way things
chomp and change and the way things develop and so

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on and so forth, this thing's still going and it
still creates a ruckus that's extraordinary, the tenure, the hold
it's had on the New Zealand rugby public.

Speaker 14 (01:13:35):
There's still magic about the shield, and to be honest,
it's one of the things about New Zealand rugby that
other nations should have taken note. And I think you
can do it in contact sport. It's a bit tricky
in football where someone can nick your gold in the
last second and it just changes everything. But generally, once
you've slogged it out over eighty minutes, you can work
out a worthy winner. So I feel like a Raanfilly

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shield concept should be used by all other nations and
all other contact codes, like whether it's the NRL or
the NF in America, because just having that fortress mentality
it means something. You can see the pride in it,
and how great is it that most of these these
players are just young kids, but they still get it,

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They still get how amazing the shield is. You know,
one hundred years on from its inception.

Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
And you say, kids's because they've been brought up with
the wonderment of the rand Fury Shield. It's that whole
oral tradition. Is it the history handed down? And they know.
I mean that's a part of the even U ninety
seventy three around Marlborough. I think a lot of people
would missed that one.

Speaker 14 (01:14:42):
I know, And what a kick off the bench if
only we kicked like that in Capel. I'm not going
to go back there, but I would say just in
terms of the bench, I still feel that bomb squad
if we are just to backtrack a little bit about
to the abs the bomb squad idea, the All Blacks
still haven't worked out how to counter that, because, as

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you've talked about on the show, there were several players
left high and dry reserves not even used. So I
do think that the coaches are going to have to
take a hit on that lost last night. I don't
think it's time to get the knives out solely for
the players.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Did the quarter that rang through and said, look, there's
been a succession plan for so long with the All Blacks.
This is a fresh team with fresh coaching staff. Does
that give them a bit of a wiggle room? Do
you think?

Speaker 22 (01:15:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:15:32):
Exactly.

Speaker 14 (01:15:32):
I mean, I'm not even saying that the coaches need
to change. I'm just saying that they'll realize that they've
got a few things wrong tactically. And really, the intensity
of a spring Box All Blacks tests is something It's
just another level. I think every nation, doesn't matter whether
it's your northern hemisphere or even just the Minnows, they'll

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use those two test matches of the past two weeks
as a master class an intensity and how to perform
or not perform in the clutch. You know, it's just
you can feel it, you can sense it. I don't
think there's anything like it. I guess maybe Origin at
its peak used to feel like that, But those spring

(01:16:15):
boxs All Blacks tests are just something else.

Speaker 3 (01:16:17):
Third, ay, minutes to two, you're getting a hammering on text. Well,
if one texts is a hammering, apparently you're showing your
chief's bias. And you can see that coming, didn't you.

Speaker 14 (01:16:29):
Oh yeah, I know that's going to happen. But look,
I'm all for actually persevering with a player who's feedingly talented.
I thought that For example, one backline move was perfect,
but Willie LaRue got his hand in the way of
Boden's past. You know, if that pass was thrown a
split second earlier, seven Reese makes the break and Boden

(01:16:51):
finishes on the inside, Like, I mean, that is a
definite try right there. And it was a yellow card
to South Africa probably the right you know risk that.
These are the things I think people need to understand.
It is sport and things where little things happen that
tip the balance. And all those mistakes I'm talking about
from the All Blacks. I don't necessarily blame them. I'm

(01:17:11):
just saying they happened as well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Come on, I've had it all before. The thing they
don't do it deliberately, and that's what people have got
to realize. People take this as a personal front, like
they're being attacked themselves. I didn't go out there to
do that, right, It's not their plan.

Speaker 14 (01:17:27):
Exactly, I know. And that's the thing. I mean, Look,
there's I think it's been an incredible test matches and
I've just admired what the All Blacks have done. They
just finished up short. So can we just deal with that.
Maybe in the mature manner. I mean, yeah, obviously everybody
sort of throws their toys every now and then, but
it's not that bad.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
I refuse to throw my toys out of the cot
that I pretty much live in on results that I've
got absolutely no control over it. Why would you your nuts?
And we'll finish things off football. It's all on now
in the States of America. Right across the conference. There's
plenty going on. Two games yesterday went to Brazil, and
I've got a whole lot coming up in the next

(01:18:08):
couple of days. What have you got on that?

Speaker 14 (01:18:10):
Well, I'm just here to say, if you're not into
the NFL, maybe it's time to pick a team. I'm
a Detroit Lions fan. We're apparently the team that sucked
the most and has the longest drouts of no Super
Bowls and no championships or whatever you want to say
over sixty six years. So look, I think there's a

(01:18:31):
lot to like about the NFL. And the other thing
is it's massive the ratings. I think it accounted for
the top twenty shows in America last year between college
football and NFL. So are you a fan of yourself, Darcy?
Who do you support?

Speaker 3 (01:18:47):
I support the Jacksonville Jaguars, and there is a reason
behind that that. I remember Ben Mallow, who's going to
excuse me join us in about an hour's time when
we first started talking on here about oh it would
have been twenty years ago now, I asked him who
I should support, and he told me that the Jacksonville Jaguars.
We're a dumpster fire. And I said, that's it. I'm

(01:19:08):
in that's my team. And they were and I followed them,
and then Blake Bortles turned up and he wasn't very good,
but they won a couple of games anyway, So that
is my connection. It's Jacksonville because they were so bad,
were kindred spirits.

Speaker 14 (01:19:21):
James, Yeah, I know this, and that's that's the thing.
You can just choose in the area. Choose a player
who you like. You know, there's specifica players there to
a tongue of Vila with as a quarterback for the Dolphins,
pookin the cour as someone receiver for the l A Rams.
I mean, there's there's plenty of ways to sort of

(01:19:42):
get into it. But look, I think the tribals and
what they've got over there is something that every contact sport,
including league and rugby need to look at because it
seems to be growing and thriving while we with our
own domestic competition struggle for for crowds. So you know

(01:20:02):
it should actually serve as a bit of a lesson
as well. Really watch this space, how do you replicate
what the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
Does hold on the rugby union rugby league. You're going
along the same track because they're slowing the game down
ridiculously and you spend more time sitting there looking at
decisions being made than watching accident Dad is my issue
with that game. And on that note, until next time,
Jason Pine decides to desert the studio. James Mconi, thanks
very much for your time, your attitudes, your opinion, your expertise,

(01:20:32):
your wonderment. Thank you friend.

Speaker 14 (01:20:34):
Cheers does lovely to church to you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Take care mate, O Well, eight minutes to two o'clock
this news talk, but you're on the weekend sport and
coming up shortly. I'll give you the latest in the
football from the Mexican All Whites game currently in the
break and this would luck to have it. That's when
I looked up and saw the television.

Speaker 11 (01:20:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Score, oll know it next trust me I will, or
any McDonald will and he'll let me know. And coming
up after two o'clock, Sophie Pasco, one of the all
time Paralympic greats, joined us here on News TALKB.

Speaker 1 (01:21:14):
Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the every fails weekend
sport as a news talk.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
For MV one. Neil, that's the score at halftime between
the All Whites and Mexico. I'll keep you up today
is best I can. Over the next hours that game continues,
I'm being thrashed on text by a guy who's right
into his football. Is the guy that was complaining about

(01:21:41):
the lack of coverage on the Sky. He goes back, See,
I understand, like half in New Zealand, you don't like
football and have no respect for it. All your sports
talk is about is rugby and rugby league and cricket
and the Olympics every four years. He missed motorsport, mate,
you know I had to get that into Denny, and
he goes on. He's carrying on. Look, look the Sky

(01:22:02):
Sport lost the right to Champions League and the League
Cup and they play out international football games but not
the always. And I'm really sorry for the messages I'm
not really beat off with Sky New Zealand. I get
that you pay a lot, you want as much as
you can possibly get. I feel your pain. I really
do not that I watch a great deal of football.
Maybe next week called Piney because he is absolutely addicted

(01:22:25):
to it and being as the world most popular game.
I understand, I get it, I carry it. But it's
not Motorsports. At three and a half minutes to two.
This is new Stills there be. It is a weekend
spot on Darcy water Grave. We've got an hour to
go and coming up after the package of new Sport

(01:22:47):
and we're at the top of the hour. We're joined
by Dame Sophie Pasco.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
The only place for the big names, the big issues,
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Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
It'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Two down, one ago, last hour of weekends sporting at
our SiO water Grave. Thanks for joining us six minutes
after two Sunday afternoon, eighth of September twenty twenty four
or the text keep coming in. No, Darcy, there is
no wiggle room for this team now. Aren't you have
hundreds of test caps under their belts. The coaching start.
How many Super Rugby titles have they got yet? Husk husk,

(01:23:35):
harsh taskmasters? We gets me that one. We gotta love
you all, thanks for all the texts. Coming on into
the studio. Boat and Barrett comes in with fresh legs
and kicks the ball away multiple times, even with two
minutes to go. Keep vincent. It's good for you. Get
that hate out of your soul, get it out into
the atmosphere. But another that, let's get to something slightly

(01:23:56):
more positive. What if you did in case you missed it,
we can cover that for you right here, right now. Oh,
I've got my sweetpants on. Here we go. NFL from Brazil, Okay,

(01:24:19):
all places, which ended up being a pretty happy trip
for the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Willis slips, Willis steps up, goes down game under who else.

Speaker 8 (01:24:33):
But Zack bun What a day. The linebacker seals.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
It and the Eagles, in this battle of heavyweights, start
the season with a win. Now the wires have disappeared,
well they disappeared, and they really sorry. My team is
the North Queensland Cowboys. Why is this? It's fairly simple.
Tom Peyton is a top bloke. He used to catch
the worry as I get on with the particularly well
and Michael White runs the show pretty much, and I

(01:25:00):
love Lucky. He's a good friend. He's a good bloke.
He sounds fantastic. So os quite when they romped the
way to fifth place with a donant display against the doggies, go.

Speaker 22 (01:25:13):
A little low kick, hopes he'll get the best a
Valentide be by Valentine.

Speaker 24 (01:25:21):
That was beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
I love it.

Speaker 14 (01:25:23):
They're into the thirties, you'll make it thirty two.

Speaker 3 (01:25:28):
Valentine homes is on a rush of point, be my Valentine.
How about it's a Valentine's Day massacre. Well maybe he
doesn't remember the al capone days. It doesn't matter. A
stage win at de Velta for irishman any.

Speaker 27 (01:25:43):
Dumber before coming into this well Trspaniar, he'd never want
to Gramps all stage and now he's going to win
the Queen stage.

Speaker 28 (01:25:50):
And Freddie Dumbar, well, this is not the look of.

Speaker 20 (01:25:52):
The Irish This is pure power strength.

Speaker 27 (01:25:55):
And Eddie Dumbar wins on the Peacon Blanc on stage twenty.

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
To be sure, to be sure, there's a new US
Open Women's champion.

Speaker 11 (01:26:07):
Sabalanc Soo says to learn seventy five seven five.

Speaker 8 (01:26:14):
She's writing there so badly for so long, and Arena sabalaka,
that's not what.

Speaker 17 (01:26:18):
The U at Soca dan.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
Finally in Argentina, well not in they found themselves down
twenty three early on against Australia. And you think the
All Blacks are a train rick, listen to this comeback.

Speaker 17 (01:26:36):
Argentina looking to finish with another and run up a
record score all time.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
Oh, Australia, they.

Speaker 8 (01:26:46):
Getting cut one light.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
Oh, and Argentina make it.

Speaker 17 (01:26:51):
A record score and a sixty seven twenty seven at
the close.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Analyzing every view from every angle in the Sporting World
weekend Sport.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
Saw ten pass. Do you think he's on a rugby coach?
As a little learned by nets. Don't go there. They
haven't got a cat. Don't go there. Don't blot your
copybook by going over to Australia. And don't get too
excited if the All Blacks run ramping over top of
the Wallabies. Where are they rent in the world at

(01:27:26):
the moment, Andy McDonald, they're like ninth or something crazy
like that, or tenth or eighth, doesn't matter. But hey,
you can only play who's in front of you? But
that's the latter on the piece. It's eleven minutes after two.
Let's focus now on the Paralympics. It's winding up. Wow,
and it has been fantastic. There really has been. I
hope you've caught some of the coverage, blanket coverage on

(01:27:48):
TV and Z, which is where our next guest has
been spending a bit of a time eleven times Paralympic.
The gold medalist, Dame Sophie pass Go. It's any well,
isn't it, Sophie. Look, we've got to talk about Anagramaldi.
What a way to sign off for Paralympics after well,
such disappointment the line jump.

Speaker 27 (01:28:06):
Yeah absolutely, I mean look, she ran that two hundred perfectly.

Speaker 28 (01:28:11):
It was executed really well.

Speaker 27 (01:28:14):
And yeah, after I know, her disappoint her personal own
disappointment of the long jump and not being able to
get onto the pom podium or you know, retain her
gold medal status from Tokyo and Rio. Yeah, the pain
she would have felt through that and to be able
to come back the following day and to just execute

(01:28:36):
a race the way she did was phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
Well, revenge is a word she's used quite a lot,
not revenge for the long jump, but revenge from the
two hundred meters, which hasn't treated her that well. That's
a long hell drive, isn't it an interesting one? Yeah?

Speaker 27 (01:28:52):
But I actually wouldn't be surprised. You know the fact
that she bought in the one hundred meters over this past.

Speaker 28 (01:28:58):
Couple of years.

Speaker 27 (01:29:00):
Has actually contributed to that two hundred meters. Usually we
actually find that, you know, if you the two hundred, you.

Speaker 28 (01:29:07):
Know you've got another hundred to go.

Speaker 27 (01:29:09):
Absolutely, but the training she would have been doing for
that hundred would have absolutely have, you know, contributed to this.
I mean, she ran the hundred gracefully and beautifully as well.
You know, she's she clearly says she's not one hundred
meter runner, but the fact that she was able to
obviously get a bronze and the hundred meters, you know,

(01:29:30):
is a huge achievement to when you're not, you know,
so called one.

Speaker 28 (01:29:35):
Hundred meter sprinter.

Speaker 27 (01:29:36):
And then you know the fact that yes she's you know,
the two hundred, it's revenge for her. But yeah, I
would have I would have absolutely have said this, the
one hundred meters would have the training for that would
have contributed to how well she executed this two.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Hundred Interesting with the athletes, every athlete I talked to
at the Paralympics, it's all about PBS. It's not about
winning medals. That's quite the drive, isn't it.

Speaker 27 (01:30:03):
Yes, I mean a personal best usually reflects obviously the
outcome of a medal, and especially if you have obviously
already gone into the games as the expected or the hunted,
because you know, your PB is usually reflected, you know,
within that top table or maybe there's Paralympic record next
to your name or a world record next to your name,

(01:30:24):
so you know, all you can ask of yourself on
the day is to give one hundred percent. And you know,
we are striving to find a personal best time because
you know then that's the best race you've ever done.

Speaker 3 (01:30:40):
You know all about being the hunted. You made that
comment before energy going into a Paralympics knowing you've got
to target on your back? How do you deal with that?
What's the best way to work through that pressure?

Speaker 19 (01:30:56):
Oh?

Speaker 27 (01:30:56):
Look, it's definitely a daily mindset for when you turn
up every day to you know, for me personally, obviously
it was the poll and the gym or where you know,
all my training sessions. But people have to understand, you know,
in an athlete's world, you know, it's it is about, you.

Speaker 28 (01:31:16):
Know, trying to obviously achieve to be the best in
the world.

Speaker 27 (01:31:19):
And you know, for us, it's not just a professional sport.
It's a personal to us as well, because we know
when we come home it is about obviously the recovery.
And you know, what we do at home reflects how
we train and then how we perform on the world stage.
So mindset is a huge part of that. It's not

(01:31:40):
just the physical side, and to be able to turn
off when you get home, you know, just enough to
be able to obviously focus on that recovery or maybe
take it, you know, do some mindleness, you know, wellness
and minded mindfulness. You know, all of those are part
of how to execute when you get onto a big
world stage as being the hunted. And you know, if

(01:32:03):
we use Ana Grimolda, you know she has got the
previous experience and you know, the debutantes that have come
into this particular games, you are going to learn that
because in a Paralympic environment, it's unpredictable. You know, there's
so many external factors going on, and it's really hard
to explain to people what a Paralympic Games, or in

(01:32:24):
Olympic Games is really like unless you've been there and
really soaked in, you know, the atmosphere, because it is
it's just it's a whole it's its own whole world.

Speaker 28 (01:32:37):
You know, it's not it's many sports that are there.

Speaker 27 (01:32:40):
You've got world champions walking around you.

Speaker 28 (01:32:44):
You're living in a you know, enclosed environment.

Speaker 27 (01:32:48):
Everything is put on a much bigger scale, and when
you've been so used to either national championships or world championships,
it is completely different. So you can never really prepare yourself,
you know fully what a Paralympic Games is going to
give you, But you can only prepare yourself the best
you possibly can. Most athletes do a lot of mindfulness training,

(01:33:11):
They work with their psychologists, they try and you know,
you know, factor that into their trainings to be able
to replicate as best they possibly can what you know
they're going to expect at the Paralympic Games.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
It's been really important of recent times across a number
of different sports, not just swimming, not just athletics, at
various games. So you've I want to say you've been
around the block, but how many Olympic Games you've been to? Four?
I think it has started off in Beijing. Have you
noticed that over your career the focus now on the

(01:33:45):
mental health and the wellness of the athletes.

Speaker 27 (01:33:48):
Yeah, it's absolutely huge, And neck comes down to, you know,
how much bigger these games are getting every year. The
media that's you know, around the Paralympic Games and around
the athletes, but also people are talking about mental health
and it's crucial or you know, the fact that, like

(01:34:10):
I said before, it's not a professional sport to us,
it's personal as well. And it is pretty hard to
switch off when you you know, close the door, you know,
when you come home from a training session, because you can't.
You've got to be constantly factoring in all those smaller
things that you know, provide for the bigger you know,

(01:34:32):
outcome and goal. But you know, I think it's great
that athletes are talking more and more about their mental health.
It's very important to you know, be open and honest
because you know, the pressure that you put on yourself
is usually the biggest pressure.

Speaker 28 (01:34:50):
But then when you obviously you know, become.

Speaker 27 (01:34:53):
An expected within the environment of your field of play.

Speaker 28 (01:34:58):
Yeah, people do have.

Speaker 27 (01:34:59):
That external pressure as well put on them, and yeah,
I do think it's really important to constantly, you know,
checking in with yourself and remembering that actually, you know,
at the end of the day, you are loved beyond
the outcome of you know, a medal or a placing.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
You're more than just your sport. And again that goes
right across a number of different sports, team sports and
individual sports. We're joined by Dame Sophie Pasco. We better
talk about I've gotten this conversation with you and I'm
loving it. But the athletes themselves at the Paralympics one
gold medal, four silver medals, three bronze medals. How does

(01:35:43):
that reflect on the team? Do you think? Is it
about that tin count or is it about more than that?

Speaker 28 (01:35:49):
It's absolutely about more than that.

Speaker 27 (01:35:51):
You know, we've got one of our tightest teams over there.
You know, there's a small team there, you know, it's
twenty five athletes and then you've got the support stuff
you know on top of that as well that have
joined the team. And the beauty of New Zealand, the
New Zealand Paralympic team is that we usually do have

(01:36:12):
a small team, so you do become a real tight family.
And yes, you know, medals are absolutely what every athlete
is striving for, do not get me wrong.

Speaker 28 (01:36:25):
But no matter if you've won a medal.

Speaker 27 (01:36:27):
Or not, when you come back to the village, your
family are standing there, meaning your teammates and your support
staff are standing there waiting for you.

Speaker 28 (01:36:37):
To embrace you. And that is so important.

Speaker 27 (01:36:40):
And what I have noticed about these games by you know,
keeping in touch with my fellow athletes, is that they
have been doing that and that they've been supporting one
another through triumph and through defeat, and that is you know,
you can't ask for much more than that, And I
think that's why we are really close knit type family.

(01:37:03):
And you know, yes we've gained a gold medal overnight,
we've you know, got you know, numerous silvers and bronze
throughout the meat. But I know that this team will
be walking away with memories of a lifetime with the
family members that they've created within the team.

Speaker 3 (01:37:20):
So for you, you mentioned the size of the games,
it's getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Was there a
part of you that got a bit of a bit
jealous that you weren't actually there competing. Because the event
Paris was extraordinary. The crowds were wild, and that's a
seriously big event. There must have been a wee bit
of I mean, I wish I was there.

Speaker 27 (01:37:44):
Look, when the Olympic Games were on, I actually did
get quite a lot of fomo. I was getting nervous.
You know, the Paralympics were obviously coming up, and the
Olympics will always used as you know, for me, I
was always overseas.

Speaker 28 (01:38:01):
I was always.

Speaker 27 (01:38:01):
Training getting ready for the Paralympic event, which is usually
two or three weeks afterwards, and so when they were on,
I yeah, I was just really feeling you know, oh
my goodness, what am I going to feel in three
weeks time when I'm you know, sitting behind a desk
presenting Paralympic Games? You know, am I going to be

(01:38:23):
feeling this? But the fact the day one, when I
sat next to Scottie, you know, I actually felt really content.
And I think that's because I knew I was still
part of the team, but in a different capacity. And
you know, I am about enhancing the Paralympic movement and
I want to be able to obviously do that with

(01:38:44):
you know the platform that I've been able to create,
and so I feel like I have just really enjoyed
sitting back watching our new New Zealand athletes take on
the world stage and watching the games, and I've just
loved embracing it. I've loved being you know, presenting and
you know, getting the word out there that the Paralympics

(01:39:07):
are parallel to the Olympic Games. And watch these athletes.
They are important, they are vital to sport, and they
are an inspiration and not an inspiration for being disabled,
They're an inspiration for taking on the world and for
their achievements. So I have been absolutely okay where you know,

(01:39:29):
sitting where I'm sitting and really been laughing up you know,
the Paris content.

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
What have you been doing? An absolutely splendid job from
from my point of view anyway, and watching it and
one last thing before we let you go, Dame Sophie
pass go and thanks so much for your time. Just
like in the Olympics, it's the way heine doing it again.
They're putting the DNA to shame, aren't they.

Speaker 28 (01:39:53):
Look I just you know, I think.

Speaker 27 (01:39:57):
Sport is growing so much more and more, and the
fact that our Wahini here in New Zealand, are you know,
being so successful.

Speaker 28 (01:40:06):
It's all power to the females.

Speaker 27 (01:40:09):
You know, we are getting deeper and deeper within our
sports and really proving you know, our mark on the
world stage. And it's fantastic to see. And you know,
I think it's so crucial towards you know, the next
generation going forth that you know, the females can you know,

(01:40:30):
really show the world what they can do.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
It's been a fantastic time. It still has yet to finish.
It's still got another day to go before it winds up.
We'll be staring at you and old so much Stevenson
on TV and Z Plus as you bring us all
of that coverage. It is so welcomed and we love
the fact you joined us here on news Talk to EB.
Dame Sophie Pasco, thanks very much for your time, Thank you,

(01:40:54):
thank you. Twenty four minutes after two, I'm going to
give you the update you don't want. If you're a
football fan, you're ready for this. Sixty three minutes in
New Zealand are being beaten up by Mexico three zip,
three nil. Your whites are going down that current and
this is a very good all white team too. This

(01:41:15):
is peppered with names with good players and saying that
Mexico hardly came down a last shower, did they.

Speaker 22 (01:41:22):
So?

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Yeah, it's away from home. Bit of a lesson there
that game. Yet still with a while to go, keep
up to date with that as best I can. Coming
up shortly though, are we going to talk a bit
of Test cricket. Yeah, cricket season is upon us. Yeah, sure,
it's over the sub continent, but it's underway. What a start.
Six consecutive tests away from home. Crazy And we'll be
joined by AJZ Patel up next here on News Talks EB.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
It's more than just a game.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
Weekend Sport is GJ gunnomes New Zealand's most trusted home builder.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
News Talks NB two twenty eight on the Weekend Sport. Yeah,
the Mexicans scored through Pinata in the fifth minute and
then Huta and Romo in the fifty three and fifty
seventh minute, fifty third and fifty seventh minute. Three is
up in that game so far. Sorry to be depressing,
I'm just telling the information. Twenty eight after two Test

(01:42:15):
cricket is on the way back, yes, and the time
is brilliant for those of you have nothing to do
at night except sit in front of the TV. Welcome
to my world. The black Caps are back. It's in
the subcontinent. There's a whole lot of Test cricket going on.
Ajz Ptel spinner obviously very fond memories of playing over

(01:42:36):
in India. It's gone very high.

Speaker 5 (01:42:42):
Do you mean takes not standing?

Speaker 8 (01:42:52):
Fantastic? Fantastic?

Speaker 17 (01:42:55):
What a pleasure, what a.

Speaker 8 (01:42:56):
Privilege to be here to see this very very rare.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Achievement, very rare. Only three players have achieved ten wickets
and he did it in his home. It's in Mumbai
and it's where he was born. How good and what
was his reward? Drops didn't play here for quite some time?
Ore the nature of being a spinner in New zeal And.
Then we've got them on the blow and Agezy, you

(01:43:21):
must be BRUTTI stoke pretty written to be back in
white again.

Speaker 6 (01:43:25):
What an exciting time, great Darcy, Yeah, it's very exciting.
It's always a privilege to play for the black Caps
and obviously coming into these conditions, you know there's a
big role to play, so it's it's quite exciting.

Speaker 20 (01:43:38):
As a spinner, I.

Speaker 6 (01:43:39):
Guess you know, going away from home, but also in
conditions where you know, hopefully things will be favorable for you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:46):
How much of this do you carry on your shoulders?
But there's there's a few spinners out there. You've got
a pilot, a couple of part timers, a couple of
all rounders, a couple of you know fully spin Mean,
it's quite a phalanx of you blokes, isn't there. How
do you fit into this? Do you like the senior dude?

Speaker 20 (01:44:03):
No, No, I don't. I don't really look at it
that way.

Speaker 6 (01:44:05):
I think we've got a big group of spinners, and
our spinners are developing quite well at the moment. So
we're all I guess working together towards a common goal
and you know, and I guess in common New Zealand fashion,
I guess it's all about the collective and working together
and so yeah, whatever we can do to kind of
I guess influence a result in our.

Speaker 20 (01:44:25):
Favor where we're going to go out there and give
it our all. But I think we all back each
other to do our roles.

Speaker 3 (01:44:31):
I'm presuming that it's going to be a bit of
this and a bit of that. As far as who's playing.
I mean, you're hardly going to roll in with the
complete deck of spinners, are you. So how is that
going to work? Have you spoken with the coaching staff
about who plays when and where? Is it a match
by match basis? How does that actually operate? Do you think?
Ajsu in all?

Speaker 20 (01:44:52):
Honestly, I think it's beyond my paycheck.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Oh come on, you must have talked to them, surely
he said something. Come on, mate, No, I.

Speaker 20 (01:44:59):
Mean, I guess.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
I guess it's really up to the coaches in terms
of figuring out what the right balances for us going
into these and what they're really looking for.

Speaker 20 (01:45:08):
And I think some of it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:09):
Comes down to the conditions, but also I guess the opposition,
and you know, sometimes it might be the amount of
left handers versus right handers, or if the picket, if
the wicket we believe is going to break up quite
a lot or not, And I guess that really plays
a big part in these conditions. And I guess you
tailor your team based on the conditions and the team

(01:45:30):
in front of you, especially in the subcontinent, because we
know how big a role spin can play here. So
I guess it really comes down to them and their
gut feel on. You know, what's the best way for
us to kind of, I guess break it down against
a certain opposition. So it'll be interesting but quite an
exciting time for all us spinners because we all know

(01:45:51):
that we're all in the mix to play a fair
but a test.

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
How do you count to the weather? That's got to
be the toughest one. Surely I'm not about the food.
I know, shame Warren took a Palettelader baked beans. But
food's one thing where there's another thing. Is there any
way to actually acclimatize to that in a or not? Ages?

Speaker 19 (01:46:08):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (01:46:08):
I guess it just comes down to fitness.

Speaker 6 (01:46:11):
You know, our trainer works us pretty hard to make
sure that we're fit enough to deal with these conditions,
and Chris is fantastic and the boys are quite fit
and ready to go.

Speaker 20 (01:46:21):
I guess when it comes to heat, you can't really
do much.

Speaker 6 (01:46:23):
It's just, you know, I guess, accepting the fact that
it's going to be hot, it's going to be sticky, and.

Speaker 20 (01:46:28):
Getting on with the job.

Speaker 6 (01:46:29):
And I mean, you know, we're all professionals at the
end of the day, and we're expected to I guess
you know, go out there and be ready to go.
And yeah, we've had maybe a slightly shorter time this
time in terms of getting here and in those in
these conditions. But at the same time, it hasn't been
too hot at the moment. I think it was sitting
at early to mid thirties and it's kind of close

(01:46:52):
to the end of the monsoon season, I believe, so
it's not it's not crazy hot, but yeah, certainly warm
with in New Zealand. I actually enjoy this, whether believe
it or not. It's actually nice for the body.

Speaker 20 (01:47:01):
You feel a.

Speaker 6 (01:47:02):
Bit freer and you move a bit better, so it's
actually quite quite nice.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
I think i'd probably pass out and I wouldn't move
freely at all. That's on a gurney. AJS Patel joins
us here on news Talk z B. I suppose you
can keep in the sleeptor's minds if you just tear
up a storm. If you're taking a pile of wickets,
they're hardly going to say sit down.

Speaker 20 (01:47:22):
Yeah. I guess you know that comes with the territory.

Speaker 6 (01:47:25):
I guess when you're taking wickets, you're bowling lots of
overs and you've got to be prepared for that, especially
in these conditions. Sometimes things happen quickly, but sometimes you know,
you just got to keep working a way and it
may take a little while.

Speaker 20 (01:47:37):
So it's just a matter.

Speaker 6 (01:47:39):
Of, I guess, continuing to make sure you're putting your
best foot forward and delivering your best deliveries regardless of.

Speaker 20 (01:47:45):
What's happening at the other end.

Speaker 6 (01:47:47):
And you know, Test Creger, it's a different challenge and
it certainly challenges you both mentally and physically, and so
it's you know, that's partly why we enjoy it is
kind of pushing yourself, I guess, beyond limits that you
sometimes expect yourself to go to.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
It's been a few years since you tore up the world.
You're going to go back to my kiddie, back to
Mumbai roughly the same time of year. If they don't
pick you for that game, how dirty will you be? Ajas?
Because you know, teen records doesn't come along every day,
does it. That was just an exceptional time for New
Zealand cricket. So you're dribbling over that one, are you.

Speaker 20 (01:48:23):
Yeah, it was a special occasion obviously.

Speaker 6 (01:48:26):
I think the biggest thing for me was playing I
guess at my hometown. I'm playing in Mumbai where I
was born brought up to a certain degree and then
obviously before I shifted to New Zealand.

Speaker 20 (01:48:37):
So I guess that was really special for me.

Speaker 6 (01:48:39):
And returning back there, I think it's once again that
that thing that kind of really draws me in as
kind of being at home and playing in front of
friends and family and you know, being on.

Speaker 20 (01:48:50):
The other side of the world.

Speaker 6 (01:48:51):
But it's also certainly a part of who I am
and I guess the fabric of me, you know, being
Indian born and from Mumbai.

Speaker 20 (01:48:59):
So it's always going to be a special place.

Speaker 6 (01:49:01):
I guess it's going to be more special after what
has happened there certainly.

Speaker 20 (01:49:06):
But yeah, I guess it's.

Speaker 6 (01:49:08):
Just be pretty cool to play them on Bay and
I believe they have this it's going to be a
special game because I believe it's something like their one
hundred and fiftieth test at the One Kiddy, So yeah,
it's a special milestone and an occasion for them as well.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
How do you think you're going to be accepted there?
Are you going to be like just a tiny rock
star when you get over there, because as you said,
you're a hometown boy. You did something quite extraordinarily. Three players,
including yourself, have done it in test history. Do you
think you'll be fated by the masses over there, even
though you're playing for the wrong team age As.

Speaker 6 (01:49:40):
To be fair, last time I was there, I guess
when I was on the boundary, I was copping a
bit to begin with, But then as I started getting
closer and closer, they were almost egging me on to
do it. So I guess that the crowd had turned
in my favor. It'll be interesting to see how it
kind of begins in the next one. We know that
the crowd in India are very passionate about cricket, but

(01:50:03):
also very passionate about Indian cricket, so I don't think
that's going to change. But I think I might get
a little bit more leeway seeing as you know, I'm
kind of a hometown boy.

Speaker 3 (01:50:13):
What about the bats? He even worried about that at all.
Have been swinging the widow around a wee bit, and
it's just all about not all about tweaking. Surely you've
got a job at the other end, right.

Speaker 20 (01:50:22):
Right, Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 6 (01:50:25):
I guess, like I say, in these conditions, every run
is valuable, and I've been putting a lot of work
in over the winter, especially around the batting side of things,
and I've been fortunate to work with a few coaches
back home, and yeah, it's certainly been a continued work
on and it's it's certainly something that I want to
continue to grow in my game, because I know how
big a contribution you can make, especially in test cricket,

(01:50:48):
if you can, you know, get those extra runs at
the lower, lower end of the order, it can certainly,
you know, impact a game massively. So it is definitely
an important part of the game. I certainly it's not something.

Speaker 20 (01:50:59):
That you know, we neglect. I guess it's.

Speaker 6 (01:51:02):
Something that we continue to grow and work on and hopefully,
you know, pretty nice to kind of, you know, put
some decent performances on the board from.

Speaker 20 (01:51:10):
That aspect as well, which would be quite special.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
When that first test gets underwey up against Afghanistan. I'm
presuming you're going to be picked because they've put you
up for media, so it makes sense to me that
you will. This is a team not to be taken lightly.
What do you know about them as a test nation?
What do you fear? What do you respect a jazz.

Speaker 6 (01:51:28):
Well, I guess the unfamiliarity is always a difficult one, especially,
I guess in international cricket generally, when you play an opposition,
you've got a lot more information around their style of
play and what they're going to bring. And I suppose
the fact that they're still pretty young in terms of
the Test playing nation, there's a lot to learn about them,

(01:51:49):
and I guess for us as players where we're going
to have to constantly be thinking on our feet and
reacting to what we see.

Speaker 20 (01:51:56):
Out on the ground.

Speaker 6 (01:51:57):
And they've got immense talent and their passion for cricket,
as we know, is unbelievable, and so what they've achieved
and I guess the last eight to ten years in
terms of a cricketing nation, has been pretty phenomenal. So
there's certainly not a team to take lightly that. They've
got a lot of talent in that group and a

(01:52:18):
lot of guys who do have exposure of playing cricket
around the world. So it will be challenging, especially I
guess in these conditions, and we've just got to make
sure that, you know, we treat them with the respect
that they deserve and go out there and I guess
you know, put our best foot forward and make sure
that we really turn up.

Speaker 3 (01:52:37):
Well and keatie when the toss bowl. That's the idea,
isn't it. Maybe a return to the good old days ages.
Thanks for joining us, mate, great to have you back
on board again. The enthusiasm is infectious and I'm really
looking forward to wasting away so many evenings over the
next nine Test match as well the last three at
home Nate and the Subcontinent. What an evening's entertainment. Thanks

(01:52:59):
for that and thanks for your time age as you
go well cheers Darcy.

Speaker 20 (01:53:03):
I hope you enjoy the viewing mate. We'll try and
give you someth entertainment.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
Please, thank you. That's what we want, AJZ. But tell
Superhero from back in the day our three zips so
far still sorry Mexico New Zealand seventy eight minutes gone
in that fixture coming up next, we're talking football. The
NFL has started Ben Miller to join us on weekend Sport.

Speaker 2 (01:53:25):
The Tough Questions off the Turf.

Speaker 1 (01:53:28):
Weekend Sport with GJ gun Homes, New Zealand's most trusted
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Speaker 3 (01:53:33):
ZI B to forty three coming to the end of
the road in weekend sport. We're now going toward the gridiron.
That's where the NFL has played. It's back for another
big seasons. First four your bar and make match it happened,
throwing in.

Speaker 8 (01:53:51):
Time, wait to be done?

Speaker 3 (01:53:53):
Yes, touchdown, I say, runners, cold head out of bounds.
It's an eaty three pas the Deniso City Life two
forty three. It's first out game Kansas City with the
victory there and now we got to oh mate Bean Mella,

(01:54:15):
A big hello to you, sir. Out of the USA,
out of Fox Sport, Uisa. He's the man who runs it,
do you or not? And you get a hell are you?

Speaker 2 (01:54:25):
Hey?

Speaker 8 (01:54:26):
Hey, Darcy, I've been there long enough. I should run
that place. I've been there since the beginning, so they
should hire you know, I should pay me more money.
But it's great to be on with it, Darcy. I
always look forward to it.

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
And it's the start of the season to be jolly
because this is it for American sports fans. And I mean,
you had your Olympic games, you got well catch blind
blah blah. This is what everybody looks forward to. This
is it for American sport. What a way to start
the season.

Speaker 8 (01:54:49):
Huh yeah, Hey, Darcy, this is the one sport that
unites everybody. It's not regimented, and everyone's into the NFL here,
so we we are fired up. It's been a soft
launch so far. They've been a couple of games played.
We've already had one dramatic finish between the Chiefs, the
defending champions, and the Baltimore Ravens. The receiver, the tight

(01:55:11):
end for the Ravens, couldn't get his feet in bounds.
He had the feet were just out of bounds in
the in line, and so Baltimore lost that game to
Kansas City. And we've had our first injury, our first
big injury, only two games end of the year, Darcy.
The Green Bay Packers lost to the Eagles a game
played in Brazil, amongst some controversy there in Brazil, and

(01:55:33):
the quarterback for the Packers, just before the end of
the game, Jordan Love, he injured his knee and he's
going to be out for the next at least three weeks,
probably longer than that. So the Packers, the Green Bay
Packers are in a tough spot. And so that's how
it begins. Two games in one dramatic finish and one
big injury.

Speaker 3 (01:55:52):
Let's talk favorites right across both divisions, the AFC and
the NFC. Where is that sit? You got a defending
champion and I'm gonna start calling them, much to the
chagrin of everybody, will as well. Are they a now
going to be cold? The Kansas City Swifts?

Speaker 8 (01:56:13):
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. Right, it's all about Taylor Swift's
she's all over the marketing. Well, you got to start
with that. We've not seen the Super Bowl has been
around Darcy since the nineteen sixties and we've never seen
a team win three in a row. And the Chiefs
are the favorite with Patrick Mahomes and Taylor Swift to
win their third straight championship this year. So we'll start

(01:56:35):
with that. Kansas City the boring pick because you like
to pick somebody new, but they're the top team. They've
improved from last year even though they won the championship
last year. And then on the other side of the conference,
you've got the forty nine ers who were in the
Super Bowl last year, the Detroit Lions. The Rams are
also there. They lost Aaron Donald. They're a great defensive player.

(01:56:58):
But as far as the Chiefs and Taylor Swift and
Patrick Mahomes and all that. That's where the competition is.
In that side of the NFL bracket. You've got teams
like Baltimore, who took Kansas City down to the very
end there in the mix. And then you look around
some of the other teams that are pretty good this year.
Cincinnati's got their quarterback back, Joe Burrow. He's there. The

(01:57:19):
Houston Texans were a surprise team last year. They have
a good young quarterback named CJ. Stroud, so they're getting
a lot of attention, a lot of hype for Houston.
So there's about five or six teams that are all
the very top in the NFL, and then you've got
a bunch of middle middleweight contenders I call the mid contenders.

(01:57:40):
Jim Harbaugh, who was a good coach back in the
day for the forty nine ers, he's back with the
Chargers in LA where I'm based, and so he's back
Darcy and his brother's coaching the Ravens, so they're back
together in the NFL. So there's some of the teams
to keep an eye on.

Speaker 3 (01:57:55):
Aside the teams, Fan Malow, what about players to look
out for players that have popped through that maybe made
a bit of a got a bit of traction last season,
that are looking forward to doing something more as freshman,
or some rookies who do you like to look off?

Speaker 8 (01:58:11):
Yeah, so the shiny new object, Darcy. There's a couple
of new quarterbacks that have everyone yappened though. The big
one is the Chicago Bears quarterback. They had the number
one pick, Caleb Williams, who was a decorated college football player,
and the Chicago Bears getting a lot of attention. They're
actually a four point favorite over the Tennessee football team
they play tomorrow. Here's an amazing factory, Derrick, Darcy. This

(01:58:34):
is to surprise you. So if you go back in
the history of the NFL, Caleb Williams has a rookie
favored by four points in his debut. There has not
been a quarterback favored by that many or more points
since Terry Bradshaw over fifty years ago in nineteen seventy
when he made his debut for the Pittsburgh Steelers, who
had had a great defense at that time. So is

(01:58:57):
a lot of hype around Caleb Williams, who is the
number one pick, but There's several other rookie quarterbacks, including
Jaden Daniels, who was also a guy that won a Heisman,
the top warden college football. He's with the Washington football
team now near the Capitol here of America at Washington DC,
and he's getting a lot of attention. And I also

(01:59:18):
mentioned CJ. Stroud. He's a sophomore second year player for
the Houston Texans and he had one of the great
rookie seasons. This guy was absolutely monster mashing for Tennessee
last year, or for the Texans rather Houston Texans, and
so he's back this year and he's getting a lot
of attention. So those are the three young quarterbacks that

(01:59:39):
are getting the most buzz as we head into the year.
And there's also some quarterbacks that change teams like Kirk
Cousins who had been a very good player when he
was playing in Minnesota, a good regular season player. He's
now on the Atlanta Falcons, so they're expected to be
better this year. And the Pittsburgh Steelers have two new quarterbacks.

(02:00:00):
They got Russell Wilson, who was supposed to start from
the old Seattle Seahawks and Denver Broncos in the swit
Super Bowl and Russell Wilson's injured, so he's not gonna start.
And Justin Fields, who was with the Chicago Bears last year,
he's gonna start now for the Atlanta or for the
Steelers against the Falcons in that game that'll be played tomorrow.

(02:00:21):
So there's a lot of musical chairs that happen every year.
There's a bunch of coaches that have changed as well,
So it's it's a new beginning in the NFL. And
we're excited because just to go all the way till
mid February when they played the Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (02:00:36):
Years ago when we first started broadcasting together, I mean
years ago. We're talking decades now. I think I said
I wanted to follow a team, and you said, you
need to follow this train, Rake, and you gave me
the Jacksonville Jaguars. Have they got any chance?

Speaker 8 (02:00:51):
Well, they're not as bad as they were back then. Yeah,
that was a long time ago, Darcy.

Speaker 11 (02:00:55):
They were.

Speaker 8 (02:00:55):
They were an embarrassment. They were a laughing stock, just
an absolute outhouse of a football team. So they were embarrassing.
But they're now. They were supposed to be good last
year year and they disappointed this year. They're kind of
a middleweight contender. They have talent. They paid their quarterback,

(02:01:15):
mister Lawrence, a ton of money and he did not
have a great year list. It's kind of bizarre they
gave him so much money considering that he did not
live up.

Speaker 3 (02:01:23):
To the hype.

Speaker 8 (02:01:24):
But they're not the worst, and they're not at the top.
They're somewhere in the middle. But at least that's better
than they were when we started talking all those years back, Darcy.
And they had to wear a bag over your head
because they were so bad.

Speaker 3 (02:01:37):
And I knew that, and I get don following them.
They're the great Blake Botel's era wasn't very good, but
at least I won some games under him, right being
great to Katjan, we're gonna do it again, so mate,
you look after yourself. Go well, and next time we talk,
you can give me a schoolcard on the Jockocracy that's
still running. Thanks for you time, my friend, all right, thanks, Darcy, No,

(02:02:01):
I think you love my friend being Melarine has been
a long time. Great to be home with the game, Dorothy.
That noise I've always got in my head and r
for already. This is the end of the program. But wait,
there's more coming up next on News Talks.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
Heb the scoot from the track Fields and the Court
on your homeless Sport weekends.

Speaker 3 (02:02:25):
For it looks like it's signed to go home and
let Jason Pine out of the cellar. He can come
back next week and do this show. And I thank
him so much for disappearing conveniently so I get to
have all the fun of the circuits for six hours
on weekend Sport. It has been my absolute pleasure. Annie McDonald,

(02:02:46):
thanks for holding my hand and wiping the dribble off
my chin throughout the last couple of days. I hope
you've enjoyed it. I've enjoyed it so much, the talking,
the interviews, everything about it, and I think it's worth
mentioning as well. Yesterday was two years since we lost
old mates and one of my favorites on the radio,

(02:03:07):
Willie Lowse. Our thoughts going out to Willie's family. We
remember you, big man for so many call reasons. You're
sorely missed in the seventh Circuit, the broadcasting circuit down
at Les Mills. Not that ever went down there and
worked out, But Willie los our thoughts are still with you,
my friend. Right time to go, and we're gonna go

(02:03:27):
out with a track that this is a rip snorter.
I think tough. Lana del Ray, Oh yeah, I like
it anyway, look after yourself, huh. You have a wonderful
Sunday and Sunday evening test cracket on from tomorrow, and
I'll be hanging around Formula one fans for next week

(02:03:52):
when they go to Azerbaijan. I believe the deadline for
the decision around Liam Lawson and his future is next weekend.
Will it be an out, I don't know. We will
find out a wonderful Sunday, Tim Beverage up next here
on News Talks it be you'll comfort another, I'll show you.

Speaker 11 (02:04:24):
What I said.

Speaker 3 (02:04:24):
I'm gonna take you where I will.

Speaker 10 (02:04:29):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:04:30):
Whenever you read.

Speaker 3 (02:04:32):
Colin, I'll give it back when I get it. All right.

Speaker 2 (02:04:40):
That's a bit.

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
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