September 28, 2024 • 9 mins
The All Blacks have bounced back again and beaten out the Wallabies at Wellington's Sky Stadium.
The team walked away with a 33-13 win - setting a record for coach Scott Robertson's first year.
Despite the victory, assistant coach Scott Hansen says there's room for improvement ahead of the team's end of year tour.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from newstalk edb SO. Tad through the line, through the
nice past within a crown over. That's getting meat of mics.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Get past with the right sever race, prace away, prace
for the mine, sever race gets the All Blacks first.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, the first of five tries for the All Blacks
last night thirty three thirteen winners over the Wallabies or
Blacks Assistant coach Scott Hansen is with us. Good afternoon, Scott.
What pleased you most about last night?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The last number of weeks, We've had some really good
weeks in regards to preparation and last night we just
stepped some bitter moments into our performance. So the most
pleasing thing for us is probably how we controlled the
territory and applied pressure on Australia down here into the field,
and there was moments in those games where we had
really good control, So pleasing around that. Also, defensively, the
(00:58):
boys put in some really good sets really around the
goal line d and they shared a lot of confidence
and courage to defend the line. So some pleasing moments.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I was going to ask about that, the line defense,
especially started the game and then again latter stages of
the second half, even though in the second half the
result was pretty secure. How proud do you feel of
a team that is still willing to put their bodies
on the line like that.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, all very much so. It's sort of expected in
the all black jersey, but in Australia are very good
attack in side. They showed some subtlety and some adapts
to their attack, attacked some different areas and it challenged
us and it was really good to see that the
great work that Times has done defensively and the leaders
(01:44):
out there doing a really good job around just staying composed.
Really with defense, you've got to endure sometimes and we
did a good job and enduring and got a old
card in the end, which has been a work on
for us. And that's it's basically a lot of pressure
building up, but overall we're pleased with for a lot
of years of our game.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Last night, so test matches down for twenty twenty four.
Are you where you want to be?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh? There's definitely things for us just to work on
and we continue to. There are still areas in that
game last night example, whether that's skill set, execution, or
maybe even some game structure that we've got to continue
to evolve overall, we're building, As I said Mayter, our
weeks have been good around our preparation. I thought barriers
(02:35):
have keptain. Last night really controlled the game well around
as game management, understanding where to put Australia into the
corner or taking points. So a lot of really good
growth in that game. But we're always looking to be
better obviously.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So as you start thinking about the end of year too,
which areas will take most of your focus as you
look for further improvement?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The key it will be the group sitting down and gain.
What are the three key areas in our game to
focus on? In many regards, the less is better? So
what does that look like in our game? It's just
controlling territory. It's been composed or anything out of our
heart and a buying pressure. We saw last night in
(03:21):
moments there where we held possession we look really dominant.
I mean in some other stages there we went always
as Florence as we could have been around attacking space.
So what does that look like in Europe? Understand the
conditions bring some very very good teams at home up there.
It's a massive challenge going up there for us, but
(03:43):
one we've already connected on today as a group and
spoken about and excited to walk towards.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Is starting first five in this team still a live
discussion as your head north.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It should be. It should be because when you're beginning
all back team, it should be a hard one to pick.
What we're focused on is giving dmac don't to steer
this team and led it. And he's done that really well.
And he's only had a number of starts really consistently
and a little that career around the ten role on
this year, he's done really well building that. What we
(04:16):
have to do also, Jason has built depth around that
and Body was given that opportunity last night to lead
the team around the field from ten, And the main
thing for us is just building that depth around our
ten having a lot of confidence and whoever that may
be is out there leading the team, putting the ball
in front of the team, getting us in the right
areas of the field, and it'll be a work on
(04:40):
for us right through. So really happy with where Dmax
at Body came in last night established his presence on
the team. So we're definitely hitting in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
They're both quite different players, aren't they, Scott. Can they
both implement the game plan that you're after.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, the beauty there is that they've got there Obviously,
they are different skills and skill sets around how they
lead let us around the field. Still in Damn came
on last night, just his intent to get to the line,
his ability to ship a short pass where his body was,
his experience and gay management, just getting us into locations
(05:19):
that allow us to fly pressure. The gifts and the
beauty that we have with both of his outstanding players
is they have different subsilties in their game which we need.
And then he added will Ordan and likes around that.
And now we've got game managers across the field, so
we're continue to put it. But I thought a body
(05:40):
coming on last night and for the week give us
some great experience. And again, if I said for us
has been leading up really well.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Also, Cam Roy, God's been with the group this week.
You reckon. He's on track to be in contention for
the end of view tour.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
He's looking really good. He's come in. We just wanted
to get our hands on him this week around our
medical and making sure that he's where he needs to
be also with our sessions allowed us as coaches to
see him and he's a great athlete. He's in a
really good spot. He needs putty. He's possibly got a
game or two coming up Counties. There's no rush. We'll
(06:16):
do what's best, what we feel for home and the
team obviously, but excited to have Cam back in the
mix for sure.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So you've been carrying three half backs during the Rugby Championship.
Cam makes four. How are you going to decide which
three you take with you?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, good question, and that's something as all that selectors
will sit down and make those decisions, both around what's
best for us on the tour. And we've had an
iron building for the future and no one's been in
done a fantastic job around just being in an all
black environment. He's learned what an all black test week
(06:51):
looks like. He's contributed really well. And now look at
the Northern till we challenge ourself around what's best for
this group up there and what's best for us also
the lake forward, So it'll be some good conversations around that. Sure.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I saw you share a nice little moment post match
with Wallace Titi last night. Just a nice little handshake
and a bit of a hug. As Sam Kane was
preparing to get his presentation for one hundred tests, what
sort of All Black's future do you predict for Wallace
a Tti.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So truously when you talk about Wallace a t as
a young man, a beautiful soul, very humble, his strong
belief in his family and his background and who he
is as a young man, and then you look at
Wallace as an All Black? Was he young All Black?
And he's taking test to test and the key thing
(07:43):
for us is to get him to enjoy his weeks
to build his game. Yes, he's playing very well, supporting
him around that, but also understanding that he's a young
he's a young All Black and he's still learning his craft.
As exciting as he is. What his future looks like
is we all hope what we're seeing at the moment
(08:07):
he continues to grow his game, the physicality that he has,
that beautiful change of speed when he takes it to
the line, his ability to get through and offer his offloads,
and then for the young man to continue to get
up and get on a defense line and look look
for work. That's really exciting for you still learn All
Black rugby to have the twenty two year old stepping
(08:30):
up and owning what's in front of him now.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Indeed, and during the Australian post match media conference last night,
we could hear a pretty stirring harker echoing through the
wall from your changing shed, presumably for Sam Kane. Can
you tell us how special it was on there after
the game?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, well, you know, you know myself personally is about
to sit in the circle and watch an all Black
be on it around achieving one hundred tests, which Sam's
the thirteenth guy and All Black history to do that.
So firstly a privileged to be there and to see it,
the ultimate respect for and all Blacks, for your team
(09:10):
to get up and perform the hucker for you in
respect of what you've done for the jersey and you
are as a man. And the last night TJ left
that for Sam. Sam had his family in the room.
It was a really special moment for all involved. And
then Sam accepted the challenge and huck it back to
(09:31):
the All Blacks and it was a beautiful moment that
will be remembered for a long time.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I bet congrats on the win. Scott thanks for your
time this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I think it is back. Good to talk to here,
No good to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Too, Scott. Thanks indeed, Scott Hanson, Assistant coach of the
All Blacks.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk z' be weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from newstalk edb SO. Tad through the line, through the
nice past within a crown over. That's getting meat of mics.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Get past with the right sever race, prace away, prace
for the mine, sever race gets the All Blacks first.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Yeah, the first of five tries for the All Blacks
last night thirty three thirteen winners over the Wallabies or
Blacks Assistant coach Scott Hansen is with us. Good afternoon, Scott.
What pleased you most about last night?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
The last number of weeks, We've had some really good
weeks in regards to preparation and last night we just
stepped some bitter moments into our performance. So the most
pleasing thing for us is probably how we controlled the
territory and applied pressure on Australia down here into the field,
and there was moments in those games where we had
really good control, So pleasing around that. Also, defensively, the
(00:58):
boys put in some really good sets really around the
goal line d and they shared a lot of confidence
and courage to defend the line. So some pleasing moments.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I was going to ask about that, the line defense,
especially started the game and then again latter stages of
the second half, even though in the second half the
result was pretty secure. How proud do you feel of
a team that is still willing to put their bodies
on the line like that.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, all very much so. It's sort of expected in
the all black jersey, but in Australia are very good
attack in side. They showed some subtlety and some adapts
to their attack, attacked some different areas and it challenged
us and it was really good to see that the
great work that Times has done defensively and the leaders
(01:44):
out there doing a really good job around just staying composed.
Really with defense, you've got to endure sometimes and we
did a good job and enduring and got a old
card in the end, which has been a work on
for us. And that's it's basically a lot of pressure
building up, but overall we're pleased with for a lot
of years of our game.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Last night, so test matches down for twenty twenty four.
Are you where you want to be?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh? There's definitely things for us just to work on
and we continue to. There are still areas in that
game last night example, whether that's skill set, execution, or
maybe even some game structure that we've got to continue
to evolve overall, we're building, As I said Mayter, our
weeks have been good around our preparation. I thought barriers
(02:35):
have keptain. Last night really controlled the game well around
as game management, understanding where to put Australia into the
corner or taking points. So a lot of really good
growth in that game. But we're always looking to be
better obviously.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So as you start thinking about the end of year too,
which areas will take most of your focus as you
look for further improvement?
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The key it will be the group sitting down and gain.
What are the three key areas in our game to
focus on? In many regards, the less is better? So
what does that look like in our game? It's just
controlling territory. It's been composed or anything out of our
heart and a buying pressure. We saw last night in
(03:21):
moments there where we held possession we look really dominant.
I mean in some other stages there we went always
as Florence as we could have been around attacking space.
So what does that look like in Europe? Understand the
conditions bring some very very good teams at home up there.
It's a massive challenge going up there for us, but
(03:43):
one we've already connected on today as a group and
spoken about and excited to walk towards.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Is starting first five in this team still a live
discussion as your head north.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
It should be. It should be because when you're beginning
all back team, it should be a hard one to pick.
What we're focused on is giving dmac don't to steer
this team and led it. And he's done that really well.
And he's only had a number of starts really consistently
and a little that career around the ten role on
this year, he's done really well building that. What we
(04:16):
have to do also, Jason has built depth around that
and Body was given that opportunity last night to lead
the team around the field from ten, And the main
thing for us is just building that depth around our
ten having a lot of confidence and whoever that may
be is out there leading the team, putting the ball
in front of the team, getting us in the right
areas of the field, and it'll be a work on
(04:40):
for us right through. So really happy with where Dmax
at Body came in last night established his presence on
the team. So we're definitely hitting in the right direction.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
They're both quite different players, aren't they, Scott. Can they
both implement the game plan that you're after.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, the beauty there is that they've got there Obviously,
they are different skills and skill sets around how they
lead let us around the field. Still in Damn came
on last night, just his intent to get to the line,
his ability to ship a short pass where his body was,
his experience and gay management, just getting us into locations
(05:19):
that allow us to fly pressure. The gifts and the
beauty that we have with both of his outstanding players
is they have different subsilties in their game which we need.
And then he added will Ordan and likes around that.
And now we've got game managers across the field, so
we're continue to put it. But I thought a body
(05:40):
coming on last night and for the week give us
some great experience. And again, if I said for us
has been leading up really well.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
Also, Cam Roy, God's been with the group this week.
You reckon. He's on track to be in contention for
the end of view tour.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
He's looking really good. He's come in. We just wanted
to get our hands on him this week around our
medical and making sure that he's where he needs to
be also with our sessions allowed us as coaches to
see him and he's a great athlete. He's in a
really good spot. He needs putty. He's possibly got a
game or two coming up Counties. There's no rush. We'll
(06:16):
do what's best, what we feel for home and the
team obviously, but excited to have Cam back in the
mix for sure.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So you've been carrying three half backs during the Rugby Championship.
Cam makes four. How are you going to decide which
three you take with you?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, good question, and that's something as all that selectors
will sit down and make those decisions, both around what's
best for us on the tour. And we've had an
iron building for the future and no one's been in
done a fantastic job around just being in an all
black environment. He's learned what an all black test week
(06:51):
looks like. He's contributed really well. And now look at
the Northern till we challenge ourself around what's best for
this group up there and what's best for us also
the lake forward, So it'll be some good conversations around that. Sure.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I saw you share a nice little moment post match
with Wallace Titi last night. Just a nice little handshake
and a bit of a hug. As Sam Kane was
preparing to get his presentation for one hundred tests, what
sort of All Black's future do you predict for Wallace
a Tti.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
So truously when you talk about Wallace a t as
a young man, a beautiful soul, very humble, his strong
belief in his family and his background and who he
is as a young man, and then you look at
Wallace as an All Black? Was he young All Black?
And he's taking test to test and the key thing
(07:43):
for us is to get him to enjoy his weeks
to build his game. Yes, he's playing very well, supporting
him around that, but also understanding that he's a young
he's a young All Black and he's still learning his craft.
As exciting as he is. What his future looks like
is we all hope what we're seeing at the moment
(08:07):
he continues to grow his game, the physicality that he has,
that beautiful change of speed when he takes it to
the line, his ability to get through and offer his offloads,
and then for the young man to continue to get
up and get on a defense line and look look
for work. That's really exciting for you still learn All
Black rugby to have the twenty two year old stepping
(08:30):
up and owning what's in front of him now.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Indeed, and during the Australian post match media conference last night,
we could hear a pretty stirring harker echoing through the
wall from your changing shed, presumably for Sam Kane. Can
you tell us how special it was on there after
the game?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, well, you know, you know myself personally is about
to sit in the circle and watch an all Black
be on it around achieving one hundred tests, which Sam's
the thirteenth guy and All Black history to do that.
So firstly a privileged to be there and to see it,
the ultimate respect for and all Blacks, for your team
(09:10):
to get up and perform the hucker for you in
respect of what you've done for the jersey and you
are as a man. And the last night TJ left
that for Sam. Sam had his family in the room.
It was a really special moment for all involved. And
then Sam accepted the challenge and huck it back to
(09:31):
the All Blacks and it was a beautiful moment that
will be remembered for a long time.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
I bet congrats on the win. Scott thanks for your
time this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I think it is back. Good to talk to here,
No good to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Too, Scott. Thanks indeed, Scott Hanson, Assistant coach of the
All Blacks.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk z' be weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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