October 5, 2024 • 8 mins
It was a hard fought win for Waikato in the Farah Palmer Cup final. James McOnie discusses that game and where are Auckland FC looking to make their home
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
ZB James mcconie in his regular Sunday slot. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Mate, I'm good, Thanks Piney. How's things with you?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Very good? Very good. I want to start with the
Farah Palmer Cup final. I thought White Cutter were firm favorites.
In fact, I know they were canterby Random pretty close
yesterday in Hamilton.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah they did. It was very close two points in it.
White Cuts were winning twenty seven twenty five. But the
thing about this rivalry is it's one for the ages.
Every game is a classic and no different yesterday in Hamilton.
So White Cuts all year they were you know, they're
a stacked team this year. But what happens is you
see the intensity and the physicality and immediately it passes
(00:52):
the eye test. You know that this game is something special,
with something. But it's a bit like when you watch
Origin and you go, okay, there's a bit more feeling
in this and what they've got though with that rivalry
is something to really I mean for rugby as well
as to sell. You think that that that's something you
could probably turn into a series. Why not turn it
into a Fara Palmer state of origin type of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, why not? Because I think earlier in the season
it was a pretty tight game. I think Canby might
have even beaten White It was at ten to seven
earlier in the season. So they're clearly pretty evenly matched.
And so in hindsight, I think, why kind were paying
a dollar team to win that game yesterday? Six dollars
for Canterbury.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, Well, Canterbury have nullified them so many times. It's
always a heartbreak, it's always a one score game and
at the end there's always people players on their knees.
It just means so much. So, I mean, you're just
going to congratulate the team and the competition for having
an occasion like that as a final just I mean,
(01:51):
can you remember when Victoria Edwards was White Attil captain
the last time they won and she dropped an F
bomb on TV, probably the greatest F bomb in New
Zealand TV history. I'd say, all.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Right, well there's something to aspire to for future generation.
Perhaps now the All Blacks will name their team or
the squad tomorrow for the Northern Tour. Chatted o aut
this last hour, what's your view, James On Weather, t J.
Pettinada and Sam Kaine will be among the All Black squad.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I well, it all changes when you see Cam Ruger
playing yesterday. Doesn't it that so impressive? Wow? Yeah, just
if you can go and look at the highlights on
the sky Sport now and or YouTube and you just go, Okay,
this this guy Ruygard just looks so impressive and he
is shot out of a cannon. He's so quick now,
(02:43):
he's got the legs of a velociraptor. It's just it's
unfair really, But if they're true to giving him more time,
then you take him on the on the All Blacks
fifteen tour and let TJ stay in that role that
he's had, which is mainly off the bench. Well it's
become that really with Cortis emerging and having their insurance.
(03:09):
So I would still take TJ Petanada. I just know
that dam Roy Garden needs those extra few games on
the Northern Tour and then Bang's in and he might
even leave frog them all right.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, I think he just seems like the one, doesn't
he And I heard him say during the week that
he feels exactly the same as he did before he
you know, the injury happened, didn't seem to be any
trepidation and stepping off the injured knee a couple of
times when he scored that second try did there? So yeah,
looking forward to seeing what he can produce. Whichever jersey
he's wearing at the back end of the year, he'll
(03:42):
no doubt be a big part of the All Blacks
next year. By the sounds of it, though, France are
sending a week inside down here. What do you make
of this?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Look France? Clearly they don't care. They shrugged their shoulders
a lot. That's what they do. They go like that.
It's not really a word. But and remember in the
past they've sent experimental teams. I think it totaled over
forty players. When they sent one experimental team, it came
close to breaking the Eden Park Hudu. Then they brought
(04:09):
the reinforcements for game two and they were absolutely terrible.
Clearly enjoying business class a bit too much on the
way down. But that's that about Antoine DuPont only playing
at four test away from home? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Crazy?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Crazy, just unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, yeah, that times up. We've never seen them at
full strength. Here They're just messing around and they don't care.
They care about their club competition. I think we should
invite another European team as well, invite Scotland. I've looked
this up on the All Black's website. The last time
they toured here is the year two thousand, pinty. What's
crazy even how good they.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Are, absolutely, and the fans they'd bring a Scottish you know,
the Scottish fans spending time down here, that'll be brilliant.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I know, I just couldn't believe. I'm on the All
Black stats website and I've had to sort of double
take it, but that is incredible. Really half the players
were even born then. So this is something that needs
to be to fight immediately. But I think it's actually
not a bad way if World Rugby allows it. So
it will send two teams to Northern Hemisphere teams down
(05:15):
because you know, we can do the same and play
our experimental players against France and then and give Scotland
top billing you know, when they come down. So that's
something that needs to be sorted out straight away, and
just while we're on the All Blacks before we move
on I was going to say in the hooker position,
it's so tough working out who plays, and even though
(05:36):
Ricky Ricky Talley probably deserves a nudge at All Blacks level,
I just don't want him to become a player who
goes in and then goes out and doesn't get a
chance to play international rugby. He qualifies for three nations, Piney,
New Zealand, Besily obviously and then USA as well, So
(05:56):
I feel like he should maybe just choose Italy and
just play fifty tests.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, i'd look, yeah, and why wouldn't he. I think
a lot of people thought he might get the NOD
this year as the as the third hooker, but that
clearly hasn't happened. So yeah, we wait to see what
lies in his future. Hey, just before you go in
a couple of weeks, it's only two weeks away, in fact,
less than two weeks until Auckland FC's debut, and the
A League reports this week that they might be looking
(06:21):
at building a purpose built stadium at what at Western Springs?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah that would be massive. I mean there's been so
much back and forth about Western Springs, currently the home
of Podsobe rugby and also Speedway, but that apparently expires
next year, so both those leases and now I mean
it's been talked about as a test cricket ground as well,
But clearly they thought that the waterfront stadium was a
(06:48):
good option until they saw how dysfunctional that process was.
So I think that scared off the buillion. Their owner,
Bill Foley and his thought, along with the other owners,
how can we actually just control this and do our
own thing, And this looks to be the easiest, cost
effective way to get an eight thousand and see that
all for this pony. This actually might work because if
(07:10):
you can make it probably needs to be a bit
more than eight thousand, but if you can, if you
can find a home there, then it just solves that
all those problems that you have with those empty seats
and just having your own boutique stadium and the heart.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Of absolutely like I feel like ten to twelve might
be more what you'd be after, but you're so right,
a rectangular, purpose built boutique stadium. Yeah, I mean, it's
what I mean. You remember the Phoenix owners, you know,
sort of toyed with the idea of doing it at
Batoni and even had some plans drawn up but that
didn't come to anything, so hopefully the owners of Auckland
(07:46):
FC can make it happen. Hey thanks James, always good
to chat. I hope you have an enjoyable rest of
your Sunday and we'll chat again next week, shall we.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Cheers Pony go to Panthers.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The Panthers Why not? Why not?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine, listen live
to News Talk Z'B weekends from midday. Follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
ZB James mcconie in his regular Sunday slot. How are you.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Mate, I'm good, Thanks Piney. How's things with you?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Very good? Very good. I want to start with the
Farah Palmer Cup final. I thought White Cutter were firm favorites.
In fact, I know they were canterby Random pretty close
yesterday in Hamilton.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah they did. It was very close two points in it.
White Cuts were winning twenty seven twenty five. But the
thing about this rivalry is it's one for the ages.
Every game is a classic and no different yesterday in Hamilton.
So White Cuts all year they were you know, they're
a stacked team this year. But what happens is you
see the intensity and the physicality and immediately it passes
(00:52):
the eye test. You know that this game is something special,
with something. But it's a bit like when you watch
Origin and you go, okay, there's a bit more feeling
in this and what they've got though with that rivalry
is something to really I mean for rugby as well
as to sell. You think that that that's something you
could probably turn into a series. Why not turn it
into a Fara Palmer state of origin type of thing.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah, why not? Because I think earlier in the season
it was a pretty tight game. I think Canby might
have even beaten White It was at ten to seven
earlier in the season. So they're clearly pretty evenly matched.
And so in hindsight, I think, why kind were paying
a dollar team to win that game yesterday? Six dollars
for Canterbury.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Yeah, Well, Canterbury have nullified them so many times. It's
always a heartbreak, it's always a one score game and
at the end there's always people players on their knees.
It just means so much. So, I mean, you're just
going to congratulate the team and the competition for having
an occasion like that as a final just I mean,
(01:51):
can you remember when Victoria Edwards was White Attil captain
the last time they won and she dropped an F
bomb on TV, probably the greatest F bomb in New
Zealand TV history. I'd say, all.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Right, well there's something to aspire to for future generation.
Perhaps now the All Blacks will name their team or
the squad tomorrow for the Northern Tour. Chatted o aut
this last hour, what's your view, James On Weather, t J.
Pettinada and Sam Kaine will be among the All Black squad.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I well, it all changes when you see Cam Ruger
playing yesterday. Doesn't it that so impressive? Wow? Yeah, just
if you can go and look at the highlights on
the sky Sport now and or YouTube and you just go, Okay,
this this guy Ruygard just looks so impressive and he
is shot out of a cannon. He's so quick now,
(02:43):
he's got the legs of a velociraptor. It's just it's
unfair really, But if they're true to giving him more time,
then you take him on the on the All Blacks
fifteen tour and let TJ stay in that role that
he's had, which is mainly off the bench. Well it's
become that really with Cortis emerging and having their insurance.
(03:09):
So I would still take TJ Petanada. I just know
that dam Roy Garden needs those extra few games on
the Northern Tour and then Bang's in and he might
even leave frog them all right.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Well, I think he just seems like the one, doesn't
he And I heard him say during the week that
he feels exactly the same as he did before he
you know, the injury happened, didn't seem to be any
trepidation and stepping off the injured knee a couple of
times when he scored that second try did there? So yeah,
looking forward to seeing what he can produce. Whichever jersey
he's wearing at the back end of the year, he'll
(03:42):
no doubt be a big part of the All Blacks
next year. By the sounds of it, though, France are
sending a week inside down here. What do you make
of this?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Look France? Clearly they don't care. They shrugged their shoulders
a lot. That's what they do. They go like that.
It's not really a word. But and remember in the
past they've sent experimental teams. I think it totaled over
forty players. When they sent one experimental team, it came
close to breaking the Eden Park Hudu. Then they brought
(04:09):
the reinforcements for game two and they were absolutely terrible.
Clearly enjoying business class a bit too much on the
way down. But that's that about Antoine DuPont only playing
at four test away from home? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Crazy?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Crazy, just unbelievable.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, yeah, that times up. We've never seen them at
full strength. Here They're just messing around and they don't care.
They care about their club competition. I think we should
invite another European team as well, invite Scotland. I've looked
this up on the All Black's website. The last time
they toured here is the year two thousand, pinty. What's
crazy even how good they.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Are, absolutely, and the fans they'd bring a Scottish you know,
the Scottish fans spending time down here, that'll be brilliant.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I know, I just couldn't believe. I'm on the All
Black stats website and I've had to sort of double
take it, but that is incredible. Really half the players
were even born then. So this is something that needs
to be to fight immediately. But I think it's actually
not a bad way if World Rugby allows it. So
it will send two teams to Northern Hemisphere teams down
(05:15):
because you know, we can do the same and play
our experimental players against France and then and give Scotland
top billing you know, when they come down. So that's
something that needs to be sorted out straight away, and
just while we're on the All Blacks before we move
on I was going to say in the hooker position,
it's so tough working out who plays, and even though
(05:36):
Ricky Ricky Talley probably deserves a nudge at All Blacks level,
I just don't want him to become a player who
goes in and then goes out and doesn't get a
chance to play international rugby. He qualifies for three nations, Piney,
New Zealand, Besily obviously and then USA as well, So
(05:56):
I feel like he should maybe just choose Italy and
just play fifty tests.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, i'd look, yeah, and why wouldn't he. I think
a lot of people thought he might get the NOD
this year as the as the third hooker, but that
clearly hasn't happened. So yeah, we wait to see what
lies in his future. Hey, just before you go in
a couple of weeks, it's only two weeks away, in fact,
less than two weeks until Auckland FC's debut, and the
A League reports this week that they might be looking
(06:21):
at building a purpose built stadium at what at Western Springs?
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah that would be massive. I mean there's been so
much back and forth about Western Springs, currently the home
of Podsobe rugby and also Speedway, but that apparently expires
next year, so both those leases and now I mean
it's been talked about as a test cricket ground as well,
But clearly they thought that the waterfront stadium was a
(06:48):
good option until they saw how dysfunctional that process was.
So I think that scared off the buillion. Their owner,
Bill Foley and his thought, along with the other owners,
how can we actually just control this and do our
own thing, And this looks to be the easiest, cost
effective way to get an eight thousand and see that
all for this pony. This actually might work because if
(07:10):
you can make it probably needs to be a bit
more than eight thousand, but if you can, if you
can find a home there, then it just solves that
all those problems that you have with those empty seats
and just having your own boutique stadium and the heart.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Of absolutely like I feel like ten to twelve might
be more what you'd be after, but you're so right,
a rectangular, purpose built boutique stadium. Yeah, I mean, it's
what I mean. You remember the Phoenix owners, you know,
sort of toyed with the idea of doing it at
Batoni and even had some plans drawn up but that
didn't come to anything, so hopefully the owners of Auckland
(07:46):
FC can make it happen. Hey thanks James, always good
to chat. I hope you have an enjoyable rest of
your Sunday and we'll chat again next week, shall we.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Cheers Pony go to Panthers.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
The Panthers Why not? Why not?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine, listen live
to News Talk Z'B weekends from midday. Follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio
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