October 5, 2024 • 9 mins
The All Whites start their journey to qualify for the 2026 World Cup as they face Tahiti this Friday. Piney catches up with striker Ben Waine to discuss his time in the UK and how the All Whites preparations have been going
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from newstalk edb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Begin their World Cup qualifying campaign this week to try
and make it to the twenty twenty six Football World Cup.
They play Tahiti this coming Friday. That game is in
Vanawatu and then on Monday they play a friendly against
Malaysia at North Harber Stadium, Albany. In November, it's van
Watu in Hamilton and Samoa in Auckland and New Zealand
(00:33):
Football have made the tickets really cheap for these games,
so they should be hopefully accessible to just about everybody.
Adults twenty dollars, kids just five plus ticketing fees for
the games here in New Zealand. Malaysia a week tomorrow
at Albany, then Vanawah to in Hamilton and Samoa in
Auckland in November. All White striker Ben Wayne of course,
(00:54):
is a big part of this side getting back us
and that's Mcaty has to get a shot of us.
Go over to the keep one known in New Zealand
of levels for Church's goal.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Bad way.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
The substitute takes ad buntets and it's one one. We're
two minutes left to play. Yeah, that was the last
time the All Whites played a one all draw against
the United States. I want to ask you about that
goal in a minute, Ben actually, but thanks for joining us.
So you're currently on loan at Mansfield Town from your
parent club Plymouth arguy. Also, how's it going at Mansfield Town?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
The last couple of weeks have been been really easy,
to be fair, getting into a new team and everyone's
been friendly. And to get off the mark the other
day and then we had another two nil wind this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, we're flying at the moment, so it's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I so you scored your first goal against Crawley midweek.
Does that take the weight off your shoulders at all?
At a new club getting off the mark with your
first goal.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, yeah, big time.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
No, I've been I've been working hard with the with
the time I've had and to be able to come
on and score the other day was it was really
special and like you said, massive, massive way off the shoulders.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Your manager at Mansfield is Nigel Cloth, who was a
fairly handy striker in his day. How helpful has he
been to you as a as a fellow striker.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, yeah, hugely.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I'd say he's definitely a bit more old school for
his coaching, but it's to be honest, it's really refreshing
some of the tips and stuff he's been given me.
The information has been just really straightforward and it's stuff
they haven't really thought about as well before. So it's no,
it's been it's been really really good.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So you're on loan at Mansfield. What's the situation around
Plymouth Argle your parent club? How much contact do you
retain with them and what's the nature of that contact.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, no, very good contact.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
To be fair.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
The one of the physios will always stay in touch
with me just to make sure everythink's okay. And there's
a there's a one of the coaches called Nance who's
a plumothar goal through and through and he he keeps
in touch with me as well.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So no, the relationships still really strong.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Everyone everyone agreed me going on loan was the best
thing for me and then hopefully it can potentially be
a fit Plymouth in the future.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So yeah, So you've been playing in the UK for
a while now, I been there a couple of years.
Is playing in the United Kingdom, playing for Plymouth, Argyle
and Mansfield Town. Is it what you expected it would be?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, and a lot more as well. I knew it
was going to be absolute cardage coming over here. The
amount of games and the level as well, it's different.
The intensity is extremely high and sometimes it can be
a bit like pimball as well.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
So getting used to that, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
It took me probably over a season and a bit
to even get used to that, and then we jumped leagues,
so it's been my whole time has.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Been spent adapting and adapting.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
So now I feel like I'm at a place where
I've learned some vital lessons in terms of how to
adapt and what are the best things to do in
these situations.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So I think it's going to pay.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Off good to hear back in with the national team
now though for the next seven to ten days. I
know you're looking forward to that. What's it like when
you all get back to together. You're all spread far
and wide, Now, what is it like when you come
together in the national team.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
It's it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's really really good as well, because you know you've
got points from the Phoenix that we're we've all gone
our super ways now, you know. But I've played with
those lads for a decent amount of time and to
be able to see what they're doing and then come
back together and play together again as special. And yeah,
I'm driving out tonight to go stay at the airport hotels.
(04:33):
I'm looking forward to, looking forward to catching up with
your run.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And when you do get together, I'd imagine it's similar
to any bunch of guys getting together who haven't seen
each other for a while but spend time together. In
a situation like this, do you just sort of slip
back into the old the old banter, the old ways.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah, undred, I think that's down down to Sam Sun
as well. He's he's he's straight on it as soon
as we're back together. So yeah, it's it's really good
that it's like that, you know, It's like we haven't
been apart, so it's really good.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
So the last time was quite recently, actually a window
which involved games against Mexico the United States. The drawer
against the US. Your goal later on talkers through.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
It just a classy goal, really was. It was one
of those ones that's.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Probably never ever going to score again, but just a
result of putting players under pressure and a little bit
of hard work, and you know sometimes you get those rewards.
And the funny thing is, as soon as the defender
kicked it into my chest, I just knew. I think
you can see the video. I've run off with my
hand up. As soon as it said my chest, I've gone,
that's going in. And do you score some of those
(05:39):
throughout a career and you take them one hundred percent?
But I like to think it's also a result of
grafting art results.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Absolutely, but also all joking aside, do you take pride
in having to be there because you know ninety nine
times had one hundred you make that run and put
pressure on the defender and nothing happens, right, they clear it,
but thee hundredth time it does. So do you take
pride in being in the right place and putting pressure
on the opposition defenders?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Exactly, And I think think to be fair, it's something
that Chris Greenecker used to always tell me.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's not necessarily in that situation.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
He did not coach me in that situation, but more
so just receiving the ball off across or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Nine times out of ten, the ball's not going to
come to you.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
But the time you don't make the movement or you
do that action, you guarantee the ball's going to be there.
So it's you know, it's just a matter of repetition
and numbers and constantly doing it. And yeah, law of averages,
I guess is the best way to put it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
When you're inside the Old Whites CAMPI in how much
help and assistance and guidance and advice do you get
from Chris Wood?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, I get a decent amount, to be fair, He's
just really open person in terms of, you know, you
can feel comfortable to go and ask him about certain situations,
which I do. I don't piss him all the time,
don't get me wrong, but if something comes to mind
or he sees something, then he will say it. But yeah,
I like to have that relationship with him where I
(07:03):
know I can ask him for advice when I need
it and he keeps in contact as well, which is
really nice.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So the path to the next World Cup is, on
the face of the things anyway, a lot more straightforward
for New Zealand. A direct entry for Oceania or the
winner of the Oceania competition into the next World Cup
in twenty twenty six. So as I say, that seems
a lot more straightforward. And you know, I guess most
people would expect you to account for the other Oceanian
(07:30):
nations fairly comfortably. How do you avoid complacency though, you know,
not just expecting to turn up and win these games.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, that's a very good question, and I think the
best way to look at it is what we did
at the Nation's Cup.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You could have said it as well.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
There wasn't other than a trophy, There was no qualifying
or anything off the back of that. But I think
the way we handled ourselves in terms of every game,
we try to keep our standards as high as we could,
never let up, and just continued to go and go
and go, and just made sure that we held ourselves accountable.
I think that was the biggest thing. And you saw
what happened. So look, I'm not going to say it's
(08:05):
going to be easy and we're going to go and
we're gonna win, but obviously you would like to think so.
But the biggest thing is we've done it before and
we know what what we have to do. I think that, Yeah,
I think that's probably the biggest point.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Of course, we're sure mentioning the Olympic Games as well.
You played for New Zealand at the recent Olympics and
Paris scored the winner against Guinea. That was a goal
that was much more your own work. How do you
reflect back on the Olympic campaign with New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, it was it was awesome and a great start.
I mean, obviously the score is always amazing. That was
saying I really wanted to tick off a goal at
the Olympics, but obviously a bit of a shame in
terms of we couldn't get out of the group. We
came up against some really, really good opposition, but at
the end of the day it wasn't meant to be.
But it was just nice to also have that have
(08:51):
that responsibility to be that striker that's leading the line
as well. I think I really enjoyed having that kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Role on the team.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Fantastic. Well, it's an exciting time ahead for fans of
New Zealand football and for the players I'm sure as well,
with the World Cup qualification path to begin. This coming
from Ben travel safe to more the side of the world.
Look forward to seeing you over here. Thanks for taking
the time for a chat awesome, thanks Pladi, Thanks Ben
Ben Waying there from the All Whites game on Friday
against Tahiti in Vanuatu and then the friendly against Malaysia
(09:23):
in Auckland on Monday and then games in November and
Hamilton and Auckland against valowhay To and some more respectively.
Ticket price is yeah, pretty cheap, twenty bucks for adults,
five for kids plus ticketing fees, so pretty accessible really.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from newstalk edb.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Begin their World Cup qualifying campaign this week to try
and make it to the twenty twenty six Football World Cup.
They play Tahiti this coming Friday. That game is in
Vanawatu and then on Monday they play a friendly against
Malaysia at North Harber Stadium, Albany. In November, it's van
Watu in Hamilton and Samoa in Auckland and New Zealand
(00:33):
Football have made the tickets really cheap for these games,
so they should be hopefully accessible to just about everybody.
Adults twenty dollars, kids just five plus ticketing fees for
the games here in New Zealand. Malaysia a week tomorrow
at Albany, then Vanawah to in Hamilton and Samoa in
Auckland in November. All White striker Ben Wayne of course,
(00:54):
is a big part of this side getting back us
and that's Mcaty has to get a shot of us.
Go over to the keep one known in New Zealand
of levels for Church's goal.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Bad way.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
The substitute takes ad buntets and it's one one. We're
two minutes left to play. Yeah, that was the last
time the All Whites played a one all draw against
the United States. I want to ask you about that
goal in a minute, Ben actually, but thanks for joining us.
So you're currently on loan at Mansfield Town from your
parent club Plymouth arguy. Also, how's it going at Mansfield Town?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
The last couple of weeks have been been really easy,
to be fair, getting into a new team and everyone's
been friendly. And to get off the mark the other
day and then we had another two nil wind this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yeah, we're flying at the moment, so it's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I so you scored your first goal against Crawley midweek.
Does that take the weight off your shoulders at all?
At a new club getting off the mark with your
first goal.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, yeah, big time.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
No, I've been I've been working hard with the with
the time I've had and to be able to come
on and score the other day was it was really
special and like you said, massive, massive way off the shoulders.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Your manager at Mansfield is Nigel Cloth, who was a
fairly handy striker in his day. How helpful has he
been to you as a as a fellow striker.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Yeah, yeah, hugely.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
I'd say he's definitely a bit more old school for
his coaching, but it's to be honest, it's really refreshing
some of the tips and stuff he's been given me.
The information has been just really straightforward and it's stuff
they haven't really thought about as well before. So it's no,
it's been it's been really really good.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So you're on loan at Mansfield. What's the situation around
Plymouth Argle your parent club? How much contact do you
retain with them and what's the nature of that contact.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, no, very good contact.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
To be fair.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
The one of the physios will always stay in touch
with me just to make sure everythink's okay. And there's
a there's a one of the coaches called Nance who's
a plumothar goal through and through and he he keeps
in touch with me as well.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
So no, the relationships still really strong.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Everyone everyone agreed me going on loan was the best
thing for me and then hopefully it can potentially be
a fit Plymouth in the future.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So yeah, So you've been playing in the UK for
a while now, I been there a couple of years.
Is playing in the United Kingdom, playing for Plymouth, Argyle
and Mansfield Town. Is it what you expected it would be?
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Yeah, and a lot more as well. I knew it
was going to be absolute cardage coming over here. The
amount of games and the level as well, it's different.
The intensity is extremely high and sometimes it can be
a bit like pimball as well.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
So getting used to that, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
It took me probably over a season and a bit
to even get used to that, and then we jumped leagues,
so it's been my whole time has.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Been spent adapting and adapting.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
So now I feel like I'm at a place where
I've learned some vital lessons in terms of how to
adapt and what are the best things to do in
these situations.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So I think it's going to pay.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Off good to hear back in with the national team
now though for the next seven to ten days. I
know you're looking forward to that. What's it like when
you all get back to together. You're all spread far
and wide, Now, what is it like when you come
together in the national team.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
It's it's amazing.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's really really good as well, because you know you've
got points from the Phoenix that we're we've all gone
our super ways now, you know. But I've played with
those lads for a decent amount of time and to
be able to see what they're doing and then come
back together and play together again as special. And yeah,
I'm driving out tonight to go stay at the airport hotels.
(04:33):
I'm looking forward to, looking forward to catching up with
your run.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
And when you do get together, I'd imagine it's similar
to any bunch of guys getting together who haven't seen
each other for a while but spend time together. In
a situation like this, do you just sort of slip
back into the old the old banter, the old ways.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah, undred, I think that's down down to Sam Sun
as well. He's he's he's straight on it as soon
as we're back together. So yeah, it's it's really good
that it's like that, you know, It's like we haven't
been apart, so it's really good.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
So the last time was quite recently, actually a window
which involved games against Mexico the United States. The drawer
against the US. Your goal later on talkers through.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
It just a classy goal, really was. It was one
of those ones that's.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Probably never ever going to score again, but just a
result of putting players under pressure and a little bit
of hard work, and you know sometimes you get those rewards.
And the funny thing is, as soon as the defender
kicked it into my chest, I just knew. I think
you can see the video. I've run off with my
hand up. As soon as it said my chest, I've gone,
that's going in. And do you score some of those
(05:39):
throughout a career and you take them one hundred percent?
But I like to think it's also a result of
grafting art results.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Absolutely, but also all joking aside, do you take pride
in having to be there because you know ninety nine
times had one hundred you make that run and put
pressure on the defender and nothing happens, right, they clear it,
but thee hundredth time it does. So do you take
pride in being in the right place and putting pressure
on the opposition defenders?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Exactly, And I think think to be fair, it's something
that Chris Greenecker used to always tell me.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
It's not necessarily in that situation.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
He did not coach me in that situation, but more
so just receiving the ball off across or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Nine times out of ten, the ball's not going to
come to you.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
But the time you don't make the movement or you
do that action, you guarantee the ball's going to be there.
So it's you know, it's just a matter of repetition
and numbers and constantly doing it. And yeah, law of averages,
I guess is the best way to put it.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
When you're inside the Old Whites CAMPI in how much
help and assistance and guidance and advice do you get
from Chris Wood?
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, I get a decent amount, to be fair, He's
just really open person in terms of, you know, you
can feel comfortable to go and ask him about certain situations,
which I do. I don't piss him all the time,
don't get me wrong, but if something comes to mind
or he sees something, then he will say it. But yeah,
I like to have that relationship with him where I
(07:03):
know I can ask him for advice when I need
it and he keeps in contact as well, which is
really nice.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
So the path to the next World Cup is, on
the face of the things anyway, a lot more straightforward
for New Zealand. A direct entry for Oceania or the
winner of the Oceania competition into the next World Cup
in twenty twenty six. So as I say, that seems
a lot more straightforward. And you know, I guess most
people would expect you to account for the other Oceanian
(07:30):
nations fairly comfortably. How do you avoid complacency though, you know,
not just expecting to turn up and win these games.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, that's a very good question, and I think the
best way to look at it is what we did
at the Nation's Cup.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
You could have said it as well.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
There wasn't other than a trophy, There was no qualifying
or anything off the back of that. But I think
the way we handled ourselves in terms of every game,
we try to keep our standards as high as we could,
never let up, and just continued to go and go
and go, and just made sure that we held ourselves accountable.
I think that was the biggest thing. And you saw
what happened. So look, I'm not going to say it's
(08:05):
going to be easy and we're going to go and
we're gonna win, but obviously you would like to think so.
But the biggest thing is we've done it before and
we know what what we have to do. I think that, Yeah,
I think that's probably the biggest point.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Of course, we're sure mentioning the Olympic Games as well.
You played for New Zealand at the recent Olympics and
Paris scored the winner against Guinea. That was a goal
that was much more your own work. How do you
reflect back on the Olympic campaign with New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Yeah, it was it was awesome and a great start.
I mean, obviously the score is always amazing. That was
saying I really wanted to tick off a goal at
the Olympics, but obviously a bit of a shame in
terms of we couldn't get out of the group. We
came up against some really, really good opposition, but at
the end of the day it wasn't meant to be.
But it was just nice to also have that have
(08:51):
that responsibility to be that striker that's leading the line
as well. I think I really enjoyed having that kind of.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Role on the team.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Fantastic. Well, it's an exciting time ahead for fans of
New Zealand football and for the players I'm sure as well,
with the World Cup qualification path to begin. This coming
from Ben travel safe to more the side of the world.
Look forward to seeing you over here. Thanks for taking
the time for a chat awesome, thanks Pladi, Thanks Ben
Ben Waying there from the All Whites game on Friday
against Tahiti in Vanuatu and then the friendly against Malaysia
(09:23):
in Auckland on Monday and then games in November and
Hamilton and Auckland against valowhay To and some more respectively.
Ticket price is yeah, pretty cheap, twenty bucks for adults,
five for kids plus ticketing fees, so pretty accessible really.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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